date:20200702

It's the new name for an updated Cheviot with v-brakes. I did a thread for it 
called Fancy Cheviot you can check out, we didn't know the new name when it 
started. 

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist score -- 59cm Roadeo

I forget what other Rivendell you own, but the Roadeo was designed with
light tubing and road geometry to compete with the carbon fiber crowd, so I
would not be surprised if the difference is in the frame. My new Riv
replacement (thinnish wall, narrow gauge tubing, lighter frame) feels
faster than the custom Rivendell it is modeled on, this last one built of,
as I decide in retrospect, too-stout tubing.

Of course, wheels and tires can make a huge difference too.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 9:37 PM Jonathan D.  wrote:

> Love it. Great find. Loving the Roadeo I picked up on the list. Feels
> faster but could be the wheels.
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Re: [RBW] New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

2020-07-02 Thread 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch

Pretty much the same color as the original Quickbeams. I had a Road Standard 
painted green, and it matched my 1st Gen QB.

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> On Jul 2, 2020, at 7:39 PM, Joel Stern  wrote:
> 
> What was Joe Bell Green?  
> 
> 
> On Friday, May 22, 2020 at 6:26:24 PM UTC-4 dustin schaber wrote:
> One of the colors the new Canti Sams will wear is “Joe Bell” Green, aka The 
> Green customs used to be 爛
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist score -- 59cm Roadeo

2020-07-02 Thread Jonathan D.

Love it. Great find. Loving the Roadeo I picked up on the list. Feels faster 
but could be the wheels. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Single-speed country bike(?)

2020-07-02 Thread S

What kind of bike is the Platypus? Has Grant said? 

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 12:40:04 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Right now I'm just hoping the Platypus - which I don't need and may buy 
> anyway!  - lands by Christmas. I wouldn't be holding out for a 
> singlespeed Riv this year...

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[RBW] Re: New batch of Sam Hillbornes this fall.

What was Joe Bell Green?  


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> One of the colors the new Canti Sams will wear is “Joe Bell” Green, aka 
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist score -- 59cm Roadeo

2020-07-02 Thread Drw

That’s a very very good deal. Awesome

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist score -- 59cm Roadeo

2020-07-02 Thread Dave Grossman

Thats a great deal, especially with those parts.  Good find!


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[RBW] Re: Bar End Shifter Woes

2020-07-02 Thread franklyn

Hi, Brady,

I do put lubes on the cables when I install them new. For the specific 
problem you described, One thing you could do is to put some beeswax on the 
cable end (the knob) and then pull the cable snug.

I do have some spare shifters, will PM you to see if you would like to buy 
them.

Franklyn

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 1:30:37 PM UTC-7, Brady Smith wrote:
>
> I was out riding with the kid today when my rear derailleur abruptly 
> dropped all the way to the bottom cog. I stopped, undid the corresponding 
> bar end shifter (a Gran Compe EnE from Velo Orange), wiped some gunk off 
> and put it back together. It worked for a little while but soon gave out 
> again and I wound up holding the shifter in place to make it up the climbs 
> on the way home. After taking it apart, cleaning everything, and 
> reassembling the shifter, the ratchet mechanism inside the shifter simply 
> won't engage (I've made the bike usable in the meantime by adding a rubber 
> washer to the assembly, which I did once before when it turned out I had a 
> defective Riv Silver shifter on another bike). The shifter was pretty 
> gunked up with sweat before this happened. A couple questions: 
>
> 1. Is it possible that sweat got into the ratchet mechanism and caused it 
> to fail? Seems unlikely, but I am a notoriously sweaty guy. 
>
> 2. The cable attached to this shifter was not that old (6 months?) but on 
> the verge of being corroded into the lever. A moot point, since it seems 
> like I'll need to replace the whole shifter, but how do fellow bar-end 
> users prevent sweat from ruining these things? Should I be greasing the 
> cable end to keep it from corroding into the shifter? Is there a type of 
> lube that works best to get sweat out of the washer assembly? 
>
> Any advice is appreciated. In the grand scheme of things, a bar end 
> shifter is far cheaper and easier to replace than an STI lever, but it 
> seems like I'm harder on these things than I should be. 
>
> -Brady
>
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Re: [RBW] Want a San Marcos!

Thanks Ash, actually I like the Appaloosa a lot but the sizing may be a tad
off from what Riv told me although a member on this forum has said the
standover was 30 5/8 which could work for me. What size did you get and how
do you find the standover? I am on a Bleriot at the moment, had sold a load
of Rivs due to a car accident 10 years ago, sold 6 about 5 or 6 years ago,
a custom, an AR and another Bleriot I was going to bring to Brasil. I am
back on the bike now after 10 years that the Bleriot is good but a tad high
TT for me although Grant would think it is fine. I don't like feeling to TT
as much as I do when I stand over the bike but I can live with it. I like
the longer chainstay idea of your bike,  hope you love it.  From what I
have learned the new Atlantis may be a good fit for me but I just don't
bond with the color when I look at the pictures. Are you happy with the MIT
bike? My Bleriot has some issues, not really issues but some of the braze
ons are not in exactly the right place, my rear rack had to come off as it
was pushing on the rear brake, really not a big deal as I don't really
carry anything.

Thanks much

Joel

Joel

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 6:13 PM Ash  wrote:

> Hey Joel,
>
> I sold mine to a local buyer in 2016 before building my 51cm green
> Appaloosa.
>
> I remember that order through Bicycle Classics is a slow process.  You
> need to email them indicating what item you need.  Sooner or later (likely
> later) you will get a response.  Then you PayPal them the money.  I think
> his name is Greg.  Speaking from my experience, they are reliable.  For the
> Sam Marcos frame I made double payment (some goof up happened with the
> mobile app session).  He promptly refunded it next day. I also remember
> that once I sent them the payment, they shipped the frame pretty quickly.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Ash
>
> PS: I have read your frame discussions on and off in other threads.  I'm
> guessing you are wishing Roadini 50/54cm sizes were 650b.  I certainly do.
> San Marcos is as close to Roadini as it gets if you want 650b.  Confession,
> if the frame I got was the newer version of San Marcos (slightly darker
> blue), I would not have sold it.
>
> On Thursday, 2 July 2020 at 09:25:42 UTC-7 Joel Stern wrote:
>
>>
>> Ash, did you sell your 51cm San Marcos frame?  Also, how in the world did
>> you place an order with bicycle classics, I cannot figure out how this guy
>> does business.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Joel
>>
>> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 10:40:52 AM UTC-5, Ash wrote:
>>>
>>> Mine was shipped from Laporte, CO.
>>>
>>> Does not seem like the guy checks his email that frequently.  Once I
>>> placed the order he shipped the item very next day though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, 21 November 2016 16:51:47 UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:

 Maybe I was mistaken, I thought I had seen multiple posts by you, oh
 well..

 Where is Bicycle Classics shipping from? I see two addresses for them -
 one in Michigan the other in Colorado - I actually had emailed them/him but
 have not heard back in a week+

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Re: [RBW] Want a San Marcos!

2020-07-02 Thread Ash

Hey Joel,

I sold mine to a local buyer in 2016 before building my 51cm green 
Appaloosa.  

I remember that order through Bicycle Classics is a slow process.  You need 
to email them indicating what item you need.  Sooner or later (likely 
later) you will get a response.  Then you PayPal them the money.  I think 
his name is Greg.  Speaking from my experience, they are reliable.  For the 
Sam Marcos frame I made double payment (some goof up happened with the 
mobile app session).  He promptly refunded it next day. I also remember 
that once I sent them the payment, they shipped the frame pretty quickly. 

Good luck!

Ash

PS: I have read your frame discussions on and off in other threads.  I'm 
guessing you are wishing Roadini 50/54cm sizes were 650b.  I certainly do. 
 San Marcos is as close to Roadini as it gets if you want 650b. 
 Confession, if the frame I got was the newer version of San Marcos 
(slightly darker blue), I would not have sold it.  

On Thursday, 2 July 2020 at 09:25:42 UTC-7 Joel Stern wrote:

>
> Ash, did you sell your 51cm San Marcos frame?  Also, how in the world did 
> you place an order with bicycle classics, I cannot figure out how this guy 
> does business.
>
> Thanks
>
> Joel
>
> On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 10:40:52 AM UTC-5, Ash wrote:
>>
>> Mine was shipped from Laporte, CO.
>>
>> Does not seem like the guy checks his email that frequently.  Once I 
>> placed the order he shipped the item very next day though.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 21 November 2016 16:51:47 UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe I was mistaken, I thought I had seen multiple posts by you, oh 
>>> well..
>>>
>>> Where is Bicycle Classics shipping from? I see two addresses for them - 
>>> one in Michigan the other in Colorado - I actually had emailed them/him but 
>>> have not heard back in a week+
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist score -- 59cm Roadeo

A new F + F now cost $2,800, with builds from $4K to $5.4K, so with the
build you described, I'd say your walked away with a good deal! Again
contratulations.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 3:07 PM Eric G@rs  wrote:

> 1600$, which for a Roadeo in this condition with these parts seemed like
> too good a deal to pass up!
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Re: [RBW] Craigslist score -- 59cm Roadeo

2020-07-02 Thread Eric G@rs

1600$, which for a Roadeo in this condition with these parts seemed like too 
good a deal to pass up!

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist score -- 59cm Roadeo

2020-07-02 Thread Eric G@rs

1600$, which for a Roadeo in this condition with these parts seemed like too 
good a deal to pass up!

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist score -- 59cm Roadeo

2020-07-02 Thread Jeremy Simon

I was following that one too and wasn't quick enough. Glad to see it went to a 
good home.

Jeremy in Oakland

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist score -- 59cm Roadeo

That's a nice bike! 

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[RBW] More fun on the new Matthews Road Bike for Road (sorry, no new photos yet)

20 miles. I was tired from poor sleep, and it was close to 100*F outside my
door instead of the low 90s promised, so I lollygagged. But how much easier
lollygagging is with even 3 gears, a tiny range, and a freewheel, compared
to a single 70" or 76" gear! I bumped up the gearing by replacing the 19 t
cog with an 18 for 74", 66", 57" instead of 70", 63", 54"; I run out of
gear a bit less easily with tailwinds now, and I can still sit and climb
short or shallow hills in 2nd.

But how easy it feels to actually sit and climb! No big hills today, but
some small ones that usually have me standing and honking halfway up. Good
thing, too, because I felt beat for the whole ride. But it's nice to have a
road bike that permits just cruising around; the Matthews Road Bike for
Dirt has many gears and rolls very well, but it's too heavy (31.4 lb with
frame bag and contents) to feel *as* easy up hills. This new bike is 24.98
lb with rear rack but no saddle wedge, and I think it's about 1 lb lighter
than the 2003 Curt Goodrich Riv.

And this may just be new bike enthusiasm, but the new bike seems easier to
pedal than the 2003 Riv; at least, the slightly higher gear didn't make me
bog down the way I anticipated, and I don't notice any drag from the
"slushbox." Compared to the 2003 Curt made from stout oversized tubing (7
lb f + f + hs), the new bike is normal gauge .8 .5 .8 531; can this be
planing? (Tho' the 1999 Joe Starck feels as lively as this bike, tho' it is
made from some oversized tubing; but lighter and less beefy than the 2003.)

More and better photos to come; too tired right now, and have a client call
coming up.

Aside: Near disaster this morning. Chauncey sinned by not greasing the
fender strut bolts. I sinned by not greasing them when I fiddled with the
the other day, and by torquing them back in firmly. When I went to remove
the right front fender strut bolt this morning, the head broke off, and I
was left with a stub sticking out ~2 mm on the inside and ~1mm on the
outside. Ow gawd! But (thank God!) I restrained my impatience and slowly,
slowly worked the stub back and forth from the inside with a pair of Vise
Grips and liberal infusions of WD40, and after 20+ minutes I worked it
through to the inside. Whew! The boss threads were fine, and anew, heavily
greased bolt went in smoothly.

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[RBW] Bar End Shifter Woes

2020-07-02 Thread Brady Smith

I was out riding with the kid today when my rear derailleur abruptly dropped 
all the way to the bottom cog. I stopped, undid the corresponding bar end 
shifter (a Gran Compe EnE from Velo Orange), wiped some gunk off and put it 
back together. It worked for a little while but soon gave out again and I wound 
up holding the shifter in place to make it up the climbs on the way home. After 
taking it apart, cleaning everything, and reassembling the shifter, the ratchet 
mechanism inside the shifter simply won't engage (I've made the bike usable in 
the meantime by adding a rubber washer to the assembly, which I did once before 
when it turned out I had a defective Riv Silver shifter on another bike). The 
shifter was pretty gunked up with sweat before this happened. A couple 
questions: 

1. Is it possible that sweat got into the ratchet mechanism and caused it to 
fail? Seems unlikely, but I am a notoriously sweaty guy. 

2. The cable attached to this shifter was not that old (6 months?) but on the 
verge of being corroded into the lever. A moot point, since it seems like I'll 
need to replace the whole shifter, but how do fellow bar-end users prevent 
sweat from ruining these things? Should I be greasing the cable end to keep it 
from corroding into the shifter? Is there a type of lube that works best to get 
sweat out of the washer assembly? 

Any advice is appreciated. In the grand scheme of things, a bar end shifter is 
far cheaper and easier to replace than an STI lever, but it seems like I'm 
harder on these things than I should be. 

-Brady

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Oakland 54cm HH

Update: Talked to the seller, he says he bought it from a Riv staff a year ago. 
If he got a good used deal then this may be legit. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Another 53cm Atlantis F/F/HS

Yeah they're overselling the damage, must be a paint freaker-outer like me. It 
looks well ridden and ready for more! 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Another 53cm Atlantis F/F/HS

2020-07-02 Thread Doug Hansford

The ad says there is lots of beausage but it looks pretty clean. There are 
a few scratches but nothing major unless I'm missing something. Could be a 
good deal depending on how high the bidding goes.
Doug

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 2:35:31 PM UTC-4, Matthew Williams wrote:
>
> on eBay:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/303609777102
>
> (it's not mine and I have no relation to the seller)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Single-speed country bike(?)

Yep with prototypes at RBW WHQ and early graphics in the blug/blhag, 
Platypi by xmas seems plausible. Barely hinted at 1 speeds, not so much.

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 12:40:04 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> Right now I'm just hoping the Platypus - which I don't need and may buy 
> anyway!  - lands by Christmas. I wouldn't be holding out for a 
> singlespeed Riv this year...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Single-speed country bike(?)

Right now I'm just hoping the Platypus - which I don't need and may buy anyway! 
 - lands by Christmas. I wouldn't be holding out for a singlespeed Riv this 
year...

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Oakland 54cm HH

My size, my neighborhood, but that's some bad juju going on there. Nope!

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[RBW] Re: PSA: Oakland 54cm HH

2020-07-02 Thread diekaiser

Agreed Joe. I was wondering the same thing...

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Re: [RBW] PSA: Oakland 54cm HH

2020-07-02 Thread Jason Kaiser

Joe, that was my first thought! 樂

> On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
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> I'd like to know why the seller thinks that's a year-old $1500 frame. That's 
> a MUSA Homer with a LOT of money in parts in it...
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[RBW] PSA: Oakland 54cm HH

I'd like to know why the seller thinks that's a year-old $1500 frame. That's a 
MUSA Homer with a LOT of money in parts in it...

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[RBW] Re: Ball In Socket Seat Tube Lug

Yep, frame size and design flexibility. One lug to rule them all.
Aesthetically I do prefer the classic seat stay capped and brazed to the 
side of the seat lug design, but I like the new lug just fine too.


On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 11:57:28 AM UTC-7, S wrote:
>
> In addition to the advantages Ryan mentions, I suppose another advantage 
> of the ball-and-socket lug is that it allows Grant to use the same lug on 
> different bikes and to tweak the rear end on existing models, all without 
> having to design and pay for a new lug each time. 
>
> I don't like the looks of the ball and socket lug either, I think it looks 
> sort of clunky, but developing and casting new lugs is super expensive, and 
> if I am right about the flexibility it affords, then I can't argue with the 
> design on practical grounds. 
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 8:19:13 PM UTC-7 Scott McLain wrote:
>
>> I am curious to see what other's think of the new ball-in-socket seat 
>> tube lug that has now found its way on to all Riv bikes.  I don't like it.  
>> I don't know why or why not.  I hate to be critical of our good brothers 
>> and sisters at Riv.  I just love the old school lugs.  I would be 
>> interested to know how much money is saved going with the ball in socket 
>> lug and not using a bottom bracket lug.  Anyone know more about it?
>>
>> Scott
>>
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[RBW] Re: Ball In Socket Seat Tube Lug

2020-07-02 Thread S

In addition to the advantages Ryan mentions, I suppose another advantage of 
the ball-and-socket lug is that it allows Grant to use the same lug on 
different bikes and to tweak the rear end on existing models, all without 
having to design and pay for a new lug each time. 

I don't like the looks of the ball and socket lug either, I think it looks 
sort of clunky, but developing and casting new lugs is super expensive, and 
if I am right about the flexibility it affords, then I can't argue with the 
design on practical grounds. 
On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 8:19:13 PM UTC-7 Scott McLain wrote:

> I am curious to see what other's think of the new ball-in-socket seat tube 
> lug that has now found its way on to all Riv bikes.  I don't like it.  I 
> don't know why or why not.  I hate to be critical of our good brothers and 
> sisters at Riv.  I just love the old school lugs.  I would be interested to 
> know how much money is saved going with the ball in socket lug and not 
> using a bottom bracket lug.  Anyone know more about it?
>
> Scott
>

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Re: [RBW] Back on a Bleriot

2020-07-02 Thread Colin Cummings

No need for a dynamo, that would be great.

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 1:42:45 PM UTC-5, Brendan Willard in SF wrote:
>
> I may be sitting in an extra 650b wheelset in the stack. I’ll check when 
> back in SF. Dynamo preferred?  Or regular?
>
> Brendan SF
>
> Speaking in Thumbs 
>
> On Jul 2, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Colin Cummings  > wrote:
>
> 
> Hey all,
>
> I recently acquired aNOTHER 59 Bleriot frame (my third, first destroyed in 
> a wreck, second stolen) and am building it up, the question is how. I've 
> ridden this frame with drop bars, moustache, and Albatross; with an 
> XtraCycle extension; hauling kids in a trailer; commuted; and all around 
> loved it in various iterations. But I have no idea how to build it now.
>
> I've been on a 90s era Stumpjumper with VO Porteur bars, which makes for a 
> tight, upright cockpit, and I'm cruising on Schwalbe Big Bens (60mm I 
> think?), so it's a slow, ponderous thing. I'm contemplating a "faster" 
> build of the Bleriot, but for the foreseeable future it will just be a 
> neighborhood cruising machine, little to no riding off pavement. Since I 
> haven't ridden drops in a lng time, and remember learning to hate the 
> moustache, I'd like to hear any well-meaning advice you have about setups. 
> (Related: I rode Origin 8 Midge bars for a time and recall really loving 
> the feel of them)
>
> Also I WTB a 650 wheelset if someone's looking to offload one.
>
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX
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[RBW] PSA: Oakland 54cm HH

2020-07-02 Thread diekaiser

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/oakland-54cm-homer-hilsen-touring-bike/7152341524.html

No relation to seller

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Re: [RBW] Re: Single-speed country bike(?)

Given all that’s going on, I wouldn’t be surprised if late 2020 becomes spring 
or summer 2021.

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Re: [RBW] Back on a Bleriot

2020-07-02 Thread Brendan Willard

I may be sitting in an extra 650b wheelset in the stack. I’ll check when back 
in SF. Dynamo preferred?  Or regular?

Brendan SF

Speaking in Thumbs 

> On Jul 2, 2020, at 10:10 AM, Colin Cummings  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey all,
> 
> I recently acquired aNOTHER 59 Bleriot frame (my third, first destroyed in a 
> wreck, second stolen) and am building it up, the question is how. I've ridden 
> this frame with drop bars, moustache, and Albatross; with an XtraCycle 
> extension; hauling kids in a trailer; commuted; and all around loved it in 
> various iterations. But I have no idea how to build it now.
> 
> I've been on a 90s era Stumpjumper with VO Porteur bars, which makes for a 
> tight, upright cockpit, and I'm cruising on Schwalbe Big Bens (60mm I 
> think?), so it's a slow, ponderous thing. I'm contemplating a "faster" build 
> of the Bleriot, but for the foreseeable future it will just be a neighborhood 
> cruising machine, little to no riding off pavement. Since I haven't ridden 
> drops in a lng time, and remember learning to hate the moustache, I'd 
> like to hear any well-meaning advice you have about setups. (Related: I rode 
> Origin 8 Midge bars for a time and recall really loving the feel of them)
> 
> Also I WTB a 650 wheelset if someone's looking to offload one.
> 
> Colin Cummings
> Amarillo, TX
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[RBW] Re: Ball In Socket Seat Tube Lug

I think the main advantage of the RBW ball and socket seat lug is that it 
works for most any seat stay to seat tube angle, so one casting works for 
all sizes.
Aesthetics are always in the eye of the beholder. Personally I like the 
looks of the new lug fine. Of course others may not.
Another beneficial feature of the new lug is that the stays will trap the 
handle end of a frame pump nicely. On my FJ Sr. I put a topeak frame pump 
along the back side of the seat tube with one end on the left side chain 
stay and the other tucked between the seat stays at the seat lug. Nice.

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 6:57:44 AM UTC-7, Ryan M. wrote:
>
>
> https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/173252562647/note-this-unearthed-blug-was-supposed-to-appear
>  
>
> Here is a Blug post that has pictures of the Riv. ball and socket seat 
> tube lug. 
>
> "  The ball-and-socket seat stay joint eliminates sheer forces and adds 
> strength. The main shoreline of the seat lug is familiarly Rivendell, the 
> same-ish swirls and all, and like all Rivendell seat lugs, it has other 
> obsessive details that — well, if you’re going to make it from scratch, 
> might as well be there— "
>
> I have an Appaloosa with the older non-ball and socket lug and just picked 
> up a Frank Jones with the new ball and socket lug and have to say I really 
> dig the new style. It looks nice and has some extra "cream" windows in the 
> lug that the other one doesn't have. I think it is visually appealing and 
> if had to choose between the two I would go with the lug that the Frank 
> Jones has. Not that there is anything wrong with the lug on the Appaloosa, 
> but the Frank is just a bit fancier looking.
>
> On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 6:17:46 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> I like the way that Llewellyn does his socketed seat lugs, but others 
>> that I've seen - including the Rivendell ones - leave me cold. About 20 
>> years back I was thinking of buying a Heron frame, but in the end I didn't 
>> because it used that design of seat lug.
>>
>> These is the Llewellyn seat lug (centre):
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> And how it looks in a finished frame:
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Nick
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Single-speed country bike(?)

2020-07-02 Thread Tully Lanter

Likewise - I must have seen his post in that same AMA. Thanks for pasting
here!

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 7:57 AM Ian Terry  wrote:

> Ah! I definitely saw the xbiking AMA. It's now making a lot of sense why I
> couldn't find it within the blog posts. Thanks for asking 'bout it!
>
> Ian Terry,
> Miami, FL
>
> On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 10:29:44 AM UTC-4, Kevin Smith wrote:
>>
>> I actually asked Grant about this when he did an AMA on Reddit. Here was
>> his response:
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2020-07-01 at 9.49.04 PM.png]
>> Here's a link to the full discussion if anyone's interested:
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/ecxo6l/grant_here/
>>
>> Since it may be quite a while before this bike happens, I may just save
>> my pennies and buy a Crust Lightning Bolt fixed instead.
>>
>>
>> Kevin Smith
>> Somerville, MA
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 6:40:52 PM UTC-4, Ian Terry wrote:
>>>
>>> I was also wondering about this recently. I remember reading a mention
>>> of it somewhere along the way (Maybe in a GP blog post?), but I haven't
>>> been able to find it again. I'm definitely interested in learning more, as
>>> I have some single-speed aspirations myself. On my end, its looking like it
>>> might come down to waiting for the new RBW ss to come out, or going with a
>>> Black Mountain Cycles canti Monstercross when their next batch arrives in
>>> Novemberish.
>>>
>>> Ian Terry
>>> Miami, FL
>>>
>>> On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 5:02:48 PM UTC-4, Tully Lanter wrote:

 I seem to recall a mention of a single-speed country bike in the works,
 but can't for the life of me find the thread. It may have been a few months
 ago.

 Anyhow, is that the case, or strictly fanciful? I'm generally out of
 touch with RBW news these days...

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Protovelo Bleriot S 57cm

2020-07-02 Thread Colin Cummings

This bike is something! The new owner is a lucky one.

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 5:40:04 PM UTC-5, Ted Durant wrote:
>
> For sale is my "Travelo" - a Rivendell Protovelo Bleriot that has S 
> couplers installed by Bilenky and a recent repaint (with Bleriot decals and 
> head badge) by Waterford. The paint is a stunning Metallic Copper with 
> cream head tube and fork, which I like to call "root beer with a creamy 
> head". I'm getting a travel bike that allows even fatter tires than these, 
> so sadly this one has to go. Will sell complete or will sell as 
> frame/fork/hs along with whatever other components you want to purchase. 
> There are a few scuffs/scratches on the frame from travel. Saddle and 
> pedals are NOT included.
>
> Asking $1450 for the whole bike (no saddle or pedals), $975 for the 
> frame/fork/hs (and travel cases), plus shipping. It will ship in its S 
> hard case, probably by Bike Flights, with all the tubes padded. Also 
> included with either the frame or whole bike is an S soft case, which I 
> will ship separately.
>
> Photos attached to this group posting. If you have trouble getting them, 
> ask and I'll send them to you.
>
> The current build includes:
> Stronglight headset
> Velo Orange wheels
> Compass Babyshoe Pass EL tires
> Rivendell Silver dual-pivot long-reach brakes
> Aero Gran Compe brake levers
> Ritchey WCS cranks (170mm) with Willow 49/34 chainrings
> Shimano Octalink BB
> Shimano Deore XT rear and 105 front derailleurs
> Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters
> Shimano 9-speed cassette 12-32 (Harris Cycles custom touring mix)
> Nitto Model 177 handlebars (44cm)
> Nitto/Ritchey 90deg (9cm) stem (OEM from '92 XO-1!)
> Nitto S65 seat post
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
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[RBW] Back on a Bleriot

2020-07-02 Thread Colin Cummings

Hey all,

I recently acquired aNOTHER 59 Bleriot frame (my third, first destroyed in 
a wreck, second stolen) and am building it up, the question is how. I've 
ridden this frame with drop bars, moustache, and Albatross; with an 
XtraCycle extension; hauling kids in a trailer; commuted; and all around 
loved it in various iterations. But I have no idea how to build it now.

I've been on a 90s era Stumpjumper with VO Porteur bars, which makes for a 
tight, upright cockpit, and I'm cruising on Schwalbe Big Bens (60mm I 
think?), so it's a slow, ponderous thing. I'm contemplating a "faster" 
build of the Bleriot, but for the foreseeable future it will just be a 
neighborhood cruising machine, little to no riding off pavement. Since I 
haven't ridden drops in a lng time, and remember learning to hate the 
moustache, I'd like to hear any well-meaning advice you have about setups. 
(Related: I rode Origin 8 Midge bars for a time and recall really loving 
the feel of them)

Also I WTB a 650 wheelset if someone's looking to offload one.

Colin Cummings
Amarillo, TX

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Re: [RBW] Is there a dessert to order from Bicycle Classics?

That should have said secret, not dessert, sorry.  iPad spell check.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 12:16 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> I don’t see anyway to put something in a basket, they don’t take phone
> calls.  How dies one place an order?
>
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Re: [RBW] Is there a dessert to order from Bicycle Classics?

Hi Steve, I’ve faxed and emailed.  Guess I just have to wait.  Sorry about 
the spell check typo in the title. 

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 12:22:48 PM UTC-4 Steve Palincsar wrote:

>
> On 7/2/20 12:16 PM, Joel Stern wrote:
>
> I don’t see anyway to put something in a basket, they don’t take phone 
> calls.  How dies one place an order?
>
>
> Here's what it says on their web site:
> http://00eda5d.netsolhost.com/ordering.html
>
> How To Order 
> Our preferred method of receiving orders is via e-mail. Faxed or mailed 
> orders are fine too, but are significantly slower in processing. We accept 
> PayPal to gpvb1 (at) comcast (dot) net, and payment by check or Money 
> Order. Also, we can invoice you (and you can pay) via PayPal, even if you 
> don't have a PayPal account. Ask us about that option
>
>  
>
>  
>
>- *e-Mail* 
>gpvb1(at)comcast(dot)net
>We answer all non-spam e-mails, except valuation requests! If you 
>don't get a response from us, you must have some sort of spamblocker or 
>other filter that needs adjusting!!! 
>
> 
>- *Mail* (very slow!)
>After contacting us to confirm that the desired items are available, 
>and the total cost with shipping, send check, or money order to: 
>
>  
>
>- *Bicycle Classics LLC*
>2724 N. Overland Trail #1468
>Laporte, CO 80535 
>
>Shipping Policy 
>- *In-Stock Items* generally ship in 1 - 3 business days 
>
> 
>- *Most shipping is done via U.S. Postal Service.* Shipping to a USA 
>   or APO/FPO address is 9.00 per order. USA parts orders over $150.00 
>   ship free, however. For oversized, or Foreign orders, or other large or 
>   heavy items such as rims, wheels, frames, frame tubing, books, or 
> bikes, 
>   please inquire. We recommend placing orders that are 25.00 or more to 
> make 
>   the most out of the shipping cost, but there is no minimum order 
> amount. 
>
> Return Policy 
> Within 30 days of receipt you may return any unused item in the exact 
> condition it was received for cash/PayPal refund (depending on how you 
> paid, and shipping charges are not refundable). You may also choose store 
> credit. No returns are permitted after 30 days.
>
> Note that refunds on purchases will be charged a 20% restocking fee to 
> cover the costs we incurred for the order. 
>
> *Note also:* If you return an item because we either shipped the wrong 
> item or it is defective, then we will adjust the policy so that you don't 
> pay for our blunder. Conversely, if you order the wrong part and it's your 
> mistake, or you simply "don't like/want the item" we regret that we can't 
> adjust the policy. 
>
> *Disclaimer**!* *Danger, Will Robinson!!!* 
> Use all items at your own risk. Many items, including NOS unused vintage 
> ones, are best for display only. Use of any item we sell is at the sole 
> risk of the purchaser. If you're uncomfortable with using anything that you 
> purchase from us for any reason, return it unused and unmarked for a refund 
> within 14 days (from time of receipt). It is the purchaser's responsibility 
> to inspect all items regularly, even modern items, to determine whether 
> they are safe to use or better left for display. Lightweight rims, old 
> cranks (*like me! - Ed.*), tubular tires, handlebars, pedals, and stems 
> can be especially risky to use. Our lawyer made us say this.
>
>
> -- 
>
> Steve Palincsar
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Want a San Marcos!


Ash, did you sell your 51cm San Marcos frame?  Also, how in the world did 
you place an order with bicycle classics, I cannot figure out how this guy 
does business.

Thanks

Joel
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 10:40:52 AM UTC-5, Ash wrote:
>
> Mine was shipped from Laporte, CO.
>
> Does not seem like the guy checks his email that frequently.  Once I 
> placed the order he shipped the item very next day though.
>
>
>
> On Monday, 21 November 2016 16:51:47 UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> Maybe I was mistaken, I thought I had seen multiple posts by you, oh 
>> well..
>>
>> Where is Bicycle Classics shipping from? I see two addresses for them - 
>> one in Michigan the other in Colorado - I actually had emailed them/him but 
>> have not heard back in a week+
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Is there a dessert to order from Bicycle Classics?

2020-07-02 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 7/2/20 12:16 PM, Joel Stern wrote:
I don’t see anyway to put something in a basket, they don’t take phone
calls. How dies one place an order?

Here's what it says on their web site:
http://00eda5d.netsolhost.com/ordering.html

How To Order
Our preferred method of receiving orders is via e-mail. Faxed or
mailed orders are fine too, but are significantly slower in
processing. We accept PayPal to gpvb1 (at) comcast (dot) net, and
payment by check or Money Order. Also, we can invoice you (and you can
pay) via PayPal, even if you don't have a PayPal account. Ask us about
that option

* *e-Mail*
gpvb1(at)comcast(dot)net
We answer all non-spam e-mails, except valuation requests! If you
don't get a response from us, you must have some sort of
spamblocker or other filter that needs adjusting!!!

* *Mail* (very slow!)
After contacting us to confirm that the desired items are
available, and the total cost with shipping, send check, or money
order to:

* *Bicycle Classics LLC*
2724 N. Overland Trail #1468
Laporte, CO 80535

Shipping Policy

o *In-Stock Items* generally ship in 1 - 3 business days

o *Most shipping is done via U.S. Postal Service.*Shipping to a
USA or APO/FPO address is 9.00 per order. USA parts orders
over $150.00 ship free, however. For oversized, or Foreign
orders, or other large or heavy items such as rims, wheels,
frames, frame tubing, books, or bikes, please inquire. We
recommend placing orders that are 25.00 or more to make the
most out of the shipping cost, but there is no minimum order
amount.

Return Policy
Within 30 days of receipt you may return any unused item in the exact
condition it was received for cash/PayPal refund (depending on how you
paid, and shipping charges are not refundable). You may also choose
store credit. No returns are permitted after 30 days.

Note that refunds on purchases will be charged a 20% restocking fee to
cover the costs we incurred for the order.

*Note also:* If you return an item because we either shipped the wrong
item or it is defective, then we will adjust the policy so that you
don't pay for our blunder. Conversely, if you order the wrong part and
it's your mistake, or you simply "don't like/want the item" we regret
that we can't adjust the policy.

/*Disclaimer*/*/!/* /*Danger, Will Robinson!!!*/
Use all items at your own risk. Many items, including NOS unused
vintage ones, are best for display only. Use of any item we sell is at
the sole risk of the purchaser. If you're uncomfortable with using
anything that you purchase from us for any reason, return it unused
and unmarked for a refund within 14 days (from time of receipt). It is
the purchaser's responsibility to inspect all items regularly, even
modern items, to determine whether they are safe to use or better left
for display. Lightweight rims, old cranks (/like me! - Ed./), tubular
tires, handlebars, pedals, and stems can be especially risky to use.
Our lawyer made us say this.

Steve Palincsar
Alexandria, Virginia
USA

Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Cheap fenders killed my bike.

Thanks, Julian. Others have pointed to this.

I should have noted that my stays (Kelpie) are 6.5mm thick versus the
standard (IIRC) 5 mm, which in practice is quite a bit fatter. Any idea if
the PDW devices will work with those?

On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 9:17 AM Julian Westerhout 
wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> Portland Design Works Safety Tabs will work.
>
> https://tinyurl.com/y7hkesbv
>
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Re: [RBW] Want a San Marcos!

How do you even place an order with them? 

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 10:40:52 AM UTC-5 Ash wrote:

> Mine was shipped from Laporte, CO.
>
> Does not seem like the guy checks his email that frequently.  Once I 
> placed the order he shipped the item very next day though.
>
>
>
> On Monday, 21 November 2016 16:51:47 UTC-8, Belopsky wrote:
>>
>> Maybe I was mistaken, I thought I had seen multiple posts by you, oh 
>> well..
>>
>> Where is Bicycle Classics shipping from? I see two addresses for them - 
>> one in Michigan the other in Colorado - I actually had emailed them/him but 
>> have not heard back in a week+
>>
>

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[RBW] Is there a dessert to order from Bicycle Classics?

I don’t see anyway to put something in a basket, they don’t take phone 
calls.  How dies one place an order?

Thanks

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Cheap fenders killed my bike.

2020-07-02 Thread Julian Westerhout

Patrick, 

Portland Design Works Safety Tabs will work. 

https://tinyurl.com/y7hkesbv

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 3:57:15 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> This reminds me to ask: Are there QR clips, or ways to adapt SKS-type QR 
> clips, to Honjo-type fender struts? (I currently use metal "R" clips).
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 1:49 PM Ash > wrote:
>
>> Hey Brendon,
>>
>> I'm so glad you are ok.  Really sorry to hear about the bike damage. 
>>
>> Thanks for sharing the story.  The fact that you were riding a high 
>> quality bike and it also happens to be LWB might have played in your favor.
>>
>> I have those safety clips on front mudguards.  After reading this story 
>> and Bill's comments on this thread, I want to see if something similar 
>> possible for the rear one.
>>
>> Last year there were two serious bike crashes in my circles.  A cousin, 
>> who shattered both wrists going over the handlebar.  A coworker who 
>> shattered on wrist, also going over the handlebar.  (they also had face 
>> injuries)
>>
>> Ever since I've been thinking long wheel base and upright riding 
>> positions increase safety in such accidents.   Today I sketched a diagram 
>> to capture my gut feeling.  The triangle on the left can be flipped over 
>> with relatively less force.   (The diagram might look dramatized, 
>> not-to-scale, not geometrically accurate, the center of gravity might not 
>> comply with physics equations etc .  It is just my gut feeling.  My 
>> riding experience with various bikes tell me that there might be some truth 
>> to it!)
>>
>>
>> [image: bike-sketch.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, 30 June 2020 02:23:00 UTC-7, brendonoid wrote:
>>>
>>> Hey guys, I just wanted to let everyone know the obviously stupid thing 
>>> that I did even though I knew it was stupid has ruined my bike. Maybe this 
>>> will help others as a warning or something... ?
>>> I've been running some cheap plastic fenders SOMA somethingorothers that 
>>> did not have those plastic easy break stay connecters that most common 
>>> sense fenders have. I knew this was a hazard but had ridden many 1000s of 
>>> kilometres on them and had just sort of forgotten about it. 
>>> It gets worse; I attached my Nitto Big Front rack (34f)? to do an 
>>> overnighter on a nice trail while i was on holiday squeezing the adventure 
>>> inbetween some bad weather and storms. On the second day, 80kms from the 
>>> next town as I crested the hill...through a lot of debris and broken 
>>> branches... doing ~15kmh (not exceeding 20kmh) my bike suddenly came to a 
>>> stop. Just a firm enough stop to lift the back end up a little bit and make 
>>> me have to put my feet down suddenly.
>>> The fender stays had lodged themselves into the fork along with the 
>>> thick piece of bark that had caused the accident.
>>> "No worries! these cheap fenders finally failed!" I thought, "my stupid 
>>> fault. Oh well, lucky I was going slow!' 
>>> As I disentangled the mess, removing the front wheel, "Oh no, the fork 
>>> is bent" I realised. "It's okay, the wheel isn't hitting the downtube I can 
>>> still ride out of here... why has the head badged popped out funny though?"
>>> Oh, the headtube is shaped like a banana...
>>> Welp.
>>> I could have been doing 40km/h down hill and i could have died as well 
>>> as killing my bike. This is what I am trying to commisserate myself with. 
>>> It barely helps.
>>> I live in Western Australia. There are no local frame builders I know of 
>>> or would trust to try and repair this frame. Shipping the bike back to 
>>> Rivendell is going to be an expensive excercise and in these COVID times 
>>> I'm not sure they can do anything anyway. I really just don't know what I 
>>> am going to do.
>>> The accident was so minor and I have bent forks before. The problem here 
>>> and the reason it has been so catastrophic is because the Big Strong Nitto 
>>> rack reinforced the fork removing tis failure mode of being able to bend, 
>>> that force was translated into the headtube as the fork actually bent where 
>>> the steerer is welded into the crown lug translating that force into the 
>>> headtube.
>>>
>>> I can post pictures if anyone is interested. The frame is weirdly 
>>> straight and I cannot find any distortion in the maintubes despite the 
>>> obvious bend in the head tube. The headset cups are only out of alignment 
>>> to the point that a sealed bearing headset can absorb the variance and 
>>> seemingly work ok. 
>>> The bend has to have gone somewhere though and I'm not sure that if I 
>>> got a new fork that I could feel safe riding the frame as is...
>>> I really just needed to vent,
>>> Thanks for listening, (reading I guess)
>>> Brendon M.
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Single-speed country bike(?)

2020-07-02 Thread Ian Terry

Ah! I definitely saw the xbiking AMA. It's now making a lot of sense why I 
couldn't find it within the blog posts. Thanks for asking 'bout it! 

Ian Terry,
Miami, FL

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 10:29:44 AM UTC-4, Kevin Smith wrote:
>
> I actually asked Grant about this when he did an AMA on Reddit. Here was 
> his response:
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2020-07-01 at 9.49.04 PM.png]
> Here's a link to the full discussion if anyone's interested: 
> https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/ecxo6l/grant_here/
>
> Since it may be quite a while before this bike happens, I may just save my 
> pennies and buy a Crust Lightning Bolt fixed instead. 
>
>
> Kevin Smith 
> Somerville, MA 
>
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 6:40:52 PM UTC-4, Ian Terry wrote:
>>
>> I was also wondering about this recently. I remember reading a mention of 
>> it somewhere along the way (Maybe in a GP blog post?), but I haven't been 
>> able to find it again. I'm definitely interested in learning more, as I 
>> have some single-speed aspirations myself. On my end, its looking like it 
>> might come down to waiting for the new RBW ss to come out, or going with a 
>> Black Mountain Cycles canti Monstercross when their next batch arrives in 
>> Novemberish. 
>>
>> Ian Terry
>> Miami, FL
>>
>> On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 5:02:48 PM UTC-4, Tully Lanter wrote:
>>>
>>> I seem to recall a mention of a single-speed country bike in the works, 
>>> but can't for the life of me find the thread. It may have been a few months 
>>> ago.
>>>
>>> Anyhow, is that the case, or strictly fanciful? I'm generally out of 
>>> touch with RBW news these days...
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] WTB: Front Rack for Wald Basket

2020-07-02 Thread Andrew Erman

I have the large front rack from Rivendell.  Looks great.  I like the larger 
size compared to their other offerings.  Most importantly, it is rated for 
weight in the low 20 lb range - something I need.

Good luck!  Fun project.

Best,

Andy

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Raymond Henderson  wrote:
> 
> I just finished building up what I'm calling a budget-Riv for my partner, and 
> I used a Velo Orange Constructeur rack that I picked up cheaply on fleabay 
> with a Wald basket there. I really like the way it looks, and it seems to 
> work great. I can post pictures tomorrow if that would be helpful.
> 
> -Ray
> 
> On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 8:22:56 PM UTC-5 BlackBomber wrote:
> Please do post pics of whatever you install (especially the Lucas). I’m also 
> looking to put a Rack on my Clem, and the Soma seems unbeatable for the price.
> 
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[RBW] Re: Single-speed country bike(?)

2020-07-02 Thread Kevin Smith

I actually asked Grant about this when he did an AMA on Reddit. Here was 
his response:

[image: Screen Shot 2020-07-01 at 9.49.04 PM.png]
Here's a link to the full discussion if anyone's interested: 
https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/ecxo6l/grant_here/

Since it may be quite a while before this bike happens, I may just save my 
pennies and buy a Crust Lightning Bolt fixed instead. 


Kevin Smith 
Somerville, MA 

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 6:40:52 PM UTC-4, Ian Terry wrote:
>
> I was also wondering about this recently. I remember reading a mention of 
> it somewhere along the way (Maybe in a GP blog post?), but I haven't been 
> able to find it again. I'm definitely interested in learning more, as I 
> have some single-speed aspirations myself. On my end, its looking like it 
> might come down to waiting for the new RBW ss to come out, or going with a 
> Black Mountain Cycles canti Monstercross when their next batch arrives in 
> Novemberish. 
>
> Ian Terry
> Miami, FL
>
> On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 5:02:48 PM UTC-4, Tully Lanter wrote:
>>
>> I seem to recall a mention of a single-speed country bike in the works, 
>> but can't for the life of me find the thread. It may have been a few months 
>> ago.
>>
>> Anyhow, is that the case, or strictly fanciful? I'm generally out of 
>> touch with RBW news these days...
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: All City Space Horse Custom 55cm Golden Gate w/ dynamo and nitto bits

2020-07-02 Thread Connor Brooks

Thanks! Yeah it's bittersweet. But I've got other rides.

On Wed, Jul 1, 2020, 18:58 Brett Callahan  wrote:

> This is a great build.  My wife has (and very much enjoys) a Space Horse.
> Would reccommend.  I'm sorry you have to sell it.
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[RBW] WTB: Billie Bar

2020-07-02 Thread Travis Breitenbach

I’m eager to give the Billie Bar a try, but it’s out of stock. Does anyone have 
one they wouldn’t mind parting with?

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[RBW] Re: FS: All City Space Horse Custom 55cm Golden Gate w/ dynamo and nitto bits

2020-07-02 Thread Connor Brooks

Also, not opposed to to parting this out.

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 5:43:01 PM UTC-5, Connor Brooks wrote:
>
> Don't really wanna sell, but I need to get some $ together for a safer car 
> with my daughter on the way.
>
> Pics: https://imgur.com/a/D16G7Wo 
>
> All City Space Horse - $2000 shipped to the lower 48. If you're up in New 
> Hampshire or Maine or something price might increase a smidge because it 
> stupidly expensive to ship up there.55cm Golden Gate
> Wheels:
> Velocity Atlas polished 32h 3x
> DT Comp
> White Ind XMR Rear
> Son28 Dynamo Front
> Panaracer Pasela Protite 38mm w/ plenty of life leftPink White Ind Headset
> Nitto Cromo Albatross bars
> -Riv mischa cork grips
> -bit of esi grip
> -Newbaums teal bar tape on the front
> -I'll send it with a couple extra of those grips, hopefully they won't 
> break in shipping, in case you want to switch it up a bit.
> Nitto Crystal Seatpost
> Brooks B17
> 110mm dimension stemDrivetrain:
> Shimano Deore II Group
> 170mm cranks 26/36/46
> 8Sp in the back 11-28 cassette
> New-ish sram chain
> Microshift bar-end Shifters (Index only rear).Brakes:
> Paul canti levers
> Paul Klampers short pullLights:
> Front is Son Edelux II silver
> Rear is B Toplight line plusI wanna keep the bags and rear rack and 
> pedals, but front and rear lights and m18 front rack are included.
> If you really want the rear rack we can taco bout it..
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Front Rack for Wald Basket

2020-07-02 Thread Raymond Henderson

I just finished building up what I'm calling a budget-Riv for my partner, 
and I used a Velo Orange Constructeur rack that I picked up cheaply on 
fleabay with a Wald basket there. I really like the way it looks, and it 
seems to work great. I can post pictures tomorrow if that would be helpful.

-Ray

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 8:22:56 PM UTC-5 BlackBomber wrote:

> Please do post pics of whatever you install (especially the Lucas). I’m 
> also looking to put a Rack on my Clem, and the Soma seems unbeatable for 
> the price.

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[RBW] SOLD: FS: Rivendell Protovelo Bleriot S 57cm

2020-07-02 Thread Ted Durant

And it's sold, just that quick. You folks are awesome!

On Wednesday, July 1, 2020 at 5:40:04 PM UTC-5 Ted Durant wrote:

> For sale is my "Travelo" - a Rivendell Protovelo Bleriot that has S 
> couplers installed by Bilenky and a recent repaint (with Bleriot decals and 
> head badge) by Waterford. The paint is a stunning Metallic Copper with 
> cream head tube and fork, which I like to call "root beer with a creamy 
> head". I'm getting a travel bike that allows even fatter tires than these, 
> so sadly this one has to go. Will sell complete or will sell as 
> frame/fork/hs along with whatever other components you want to purchase. 
> There are a few scuffs/scratches on the frame from travel. Saddle and 
> pedals are NOT included.
>
> Asking $1450 for the whole bike (no saddle or pedals), $975 for the 
> frame/fork/hs (and travel cases), plus shipping. It will ship in its S 
> hard case, probably by Bike Flights, with all the tubes padded. Also 
> included with either the frame or whole bike is an S soft case, which I 
> will ship separately.
>
> Photos attached to this group posting. If you have trouble getting them, 
> ask and I'll send them to you.
>
> The current build includes:
> Stronglight headset
> Velo Orange wheels
> Compass Babyshoe Pass EL tires
> Rivendell Silver dual-pivot long-reach brakes
> Aero Gran Compe brake levers
> Ritchey WCS cranks (170mm) with Willow 49/34 chainrings
> Shimano Octalink BB
> Shimano Deore XT rear and 105 front derailleurs
> Shimano 9-speed bar end shifters
> Shimano 9-speed cassette 12-32 (Harris Cycles custom touring mix)
> Nitto Model 177 handlebars (44cm)
> Nitto/Ritchey 90deg (9cm) stem (OEM from '92 XO-1!)
> Nitto S65 seat post
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA
>
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Re: [RBW] Thankyou

2020-07-02 Thread Nick Lindsey

Hello Brendon,

Your report is so interesting.  Glad to know and see that you are well.

Of particular interest is the trailer hitch on your car.  Having never seen 
this type in the States, could you shed some light?   Is the hitch also meant 
to support a bike rack?

Nick in Pleasant Hill, CA

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> On Jul 1, 2020, at 6:31 PM, brendonoid  wrote:
> 
> I agree that steel is the best frame material and I will most likely be 
> riding this bike again with a new fork. I tend to get emotional about my 
> bikes and overreact especially about my rivendells but just wanted to 
> reiterate a few bullet points:
> - My fenders did not have safety clip thingos
> - I had the nitto Big Front Rack equipped which was basically a tubular space 
> frame reinforcement preventing the fork from bending as designed.
> - The trail I was on was absolutely littered with sticks branches and bark 
> and I had ridden the entirety of the the previous day on the same terrain 
> with no issues. There was no line to pick that would avoid this stuff. Wish I 
> had a photo. Karri trees drop a LOT of litter.
> Thanks again folks for the advice, encouragement and commiserations, I'm much 
> more or a lurker than a poster and have enjoyed reading the content on this 
> forum for many years.
> Cheers to all,
> Brendon M.
> PS oh I actually have a bad photo of my bike the day before I crashed it. 
> Can't make out much of the bike from this angle but the bags 'backwards' on 
> the front to clear the Neo Retro Cantis. The Smart 
> Sams, whilst perfect for the pea gravel, would also have been a contributing 
> factor as the tread can be very grabby. The bags are very lightly packed with 
> hiking gear and I don't think the weight was a significant contributor.
>> On Tuesday, 30 June 2020 at 17:23:00 UTC+8 brendonoid wrote:
>> Hey guys, I just wanted to let everyone know the obviously stupid thing that 
>> I did even though I knew it was stupid has ruined my bike. Maybe this will 
>> help others as a warning or something... ?
>> I've been running some cheap plastic fenders SOMA somethingorothers that did 
>> not have those plastic easy break stay connecters that most common sense 
>> fenders have. I knew this was a hazard but had ridden many 1000s of 
>> kilometres on them and had just sort of forgotten about it. 
>> It gets worse; I attached my Nitto Big Front rack (34f)? to do an 
>> overnighter on a nice trail while i was on holiday squeezing the adventure 
>> inbetween some bad weather and storms. On the second day, 80kms from the 
>> next town as I crested the hill...through a lot of debris and broken 
>> branches... doing ~15kmh (not exceeding 20kmh) my bike suddenly came to a 
>> stop. Just a firm enough stop to lift the back end up a little bit and make 
>> me have to put my feet down suddenly.
>> The fender stays had lodged themselves into the fork along with the thick 
>> piece of bark that had caused the accident.
>> "No worries! these cheap fenders finally failed!" I thought, "my stupid 
>> fault. Oh well, lucky I was going slow!' 
>> As I disentangled the mess, removing the front wheel, "Oh no, the fork is 
>> bent" I realised. "It's okay, the wheel isn't hitting the downtube I can 
>> still ride out of here... why has the head badged popped out funny though?"
>> Oh, the headtube is shaped like a banana...
>> Welp.
>> I could have been doing 40km/h down hill and i could have died as well as 
>> killing my bike. This is what I am trying to commisserate myself with. It 
>> barely helps.
>> I live in Western Australia. There are no local frame builders I know of or 
>> would trust to try and repair this frame. Shipping the bike back to 
>> Rivendell is going to be an expensive excercise and in these COVID times I'm 
>> not sure they can do anything anyway. I really just don't know what I am 
>> going to do.
>> The accident was so minor and I have bent forks before. The problem here and 
>> the reason it has been so catastrophic is because the Big Strong Nitto rack 
>> reinforced the fork removing tis failure mode of being able to bend, that 
>> force was translated into the headtube as the fork actually bent where the 
>> steerer is welded into the crown lug translating that force into the 
>> headtube.
>> I can post pictures if anyone is interested. The frame is weirdly straight 
>> and I cannot find any distortion in the maintubes despite the obvious bend 
>> in the head tube. The headset cups are only out of alignment to the point 
>> that a sealed bearing headset can absorb the variance and seemingly work ok. 
>> The bend has to have gone somewhere though and I'm not sure that if I got a 
>> new fork that I could feel safe riding the frame as is...
>> I really just needed to vent,
>> Thanks for listening, (reading I guess)
>> Brendon M.
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[RBW] Re: Ball In Socket Seat Tube Lug

2020-07-02 Thread Ryan M.

https://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/173252562647/note-this-unearthed-blug-was-supposed-to-appear

Here is a Blug post that has pictures of the Riv. ball and socket seat tube 
lug. 

"  The ball-and-socket seat stay joint eliminates sheer forces and adds 
strength. The main shoreline of the seat lug is familiarly Rivendell, the 
same-ish swirls and all, and like all Rivendell seat lugs, it has other 
obsessive details that — well, if you’re going to make it from scratch, 
might as well be there— "

I have an Appaloosa with the older non-ball and socket lug and just picked 
up a Frank Jones with the new ball and socket lug and have to say I really 
dig the new style. It looks nice and has some extra "cream" windows in the 
lug that the other one doesn't have. I think it is visually appealing and 
if had to choose between the two I would go with the lug that the Frank 
Jones has. Not that there is anything wrong with the lug on the Appaloosa, 
but the Frank is just a bit fancier looking.

On Thursday, July 2, 2020 at 6:17:46 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:

> I like the way that Llewellyn does his socketed seat lugs, but others that 
> I've seen - including the Rivendell ones - leave me cold. About 20 years 
> back I was thinking of buying a Heron frame, but in the end I didn't 
> because it used that design of seat lug.
>
> These is the Llewellyn seat lug (centre):
>
>
> 
>
>
> And how it looks in a finished frame:
>
>
>
> 
>
>
> Nick
>

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[RBW] Re: Ball In Socket Seat Tube Lug

2020-07-02 Thread Nick Payne

I like the way that Llewellyn does his socketed seat lugs, but others that 
I've seen - including the Rivendell ones - leave me cold. About 20 years 
back I was thinking of buying a Heron frame, but in the end I didn't 
because it used that design of seat lug.

These is the Llewellyn seat lug (centre):




And how it looks in a finished frame:





Nick

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ride Photos