[RBW] Re: FS: 66cm Blue Rambouillet - Complete

[Mike Godwin]

Do it Reid, what's a single centimeter between bike friends

Mike SLO CA

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 11:26:42 AM UTC-7, Reid Echols wrote:
>
> Oof, if this weren’t a functional twin to my 67 Homer I’d be mighty 
> tempted. Great price, great bike! 
>
> Reid in Austin 
>
> On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 10:10:04 AM UTC-5, Birdman wrote:
>>
>> Attn: tall riders! I’m reluctantly offering a rare, blue 66cm Rambouillet 
>> for sale. It comes complete (I’m not interested in parting out), as seen in 
>> the photos, except I’m keeping the pedals. It’s a classic build with 
>> noodles, cross levers, 120mm stem, and 32mm Paselas on Araya rims. 
>>
>> Photos here: 
>> https://flickr.com/photos/38306928@N00/sets/72157715097136002 
>>
>> This bike was clearly well cared for by the previous owner and seems to 
>> have few miles. I’ve certainly ridden it sparingly and have always kept it 
>> garaged. There are a few spots where touch up paint has been applied, but 
>> overall it presents as a beautiful bicycle in fabulous condition, 
>> especially given its age. Plenty of life left on the rims. No issues. 
>>
>> These 66cm Rams are rare. They only show up intermittently in frame 
>> charts of that time period and I suspect that relatively few were made. 
>> I’ll include a Rambouillet booklet with the sale. 
>>
>> I’m asking $1300 plus packing/shipping via Bike Flights CONUS. PayPal F 
>> preferred. 
>>
>> Please reach out with questions, 
>>
>> Isaac in Portland, OR
>
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[RBW] Re: Looking for hat recommendation similar to Fair Ends cap

[jamin orrall]

wow I was just wondering this same thing today, saw that the site was down 
as well.

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 12:54:17 PM UTC-7, M D Smith wrote:
>
> Hello folks-
>
> Does anyone know of a cotton cap similar in fit and styling to the Fair 
> Ends caps formerly offered from Rivendell?
>
> I purchased a waxed cotton cap directly from Fair Ends last autumn and 
> find it fits my big melon better than any other cap I’ve ever tried.  I 
> also liked that they were MUSA and just seemed like a cool company that I’d 
> like to patronize.  I subsequently bought a couple wool tweed versions over 
> the winter, including one just as the virus was closing the country down. 
>  Fair Ends sent out an email at the time saying they were closing due to 
> the shutdown, were liquidating their remaining stock, and hoped to reopen 
> when possible.
>
> As the weather has turned, I find that I’d love a similar cap in a lighter 
> cotton fabric. Unfortunately their website https://fairends.com is now 
> down.  I have emailed the last customer service address I have but alas 
> have heard nothing back and fear the worst.
>
> So does anyone have a recommendation for a light cotton cap that might fit 
> like the Fair Ends?  Preferably made by a US-based progressive company run 
> by actual humans rather than some faceless international conglomerate?  Or, 
> for that matter, a gently used Fair Ends cap?
>
> Cheers- Mike in Somerville, MA
>

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[RBW] Re: Was the Hunqapillar designed for Albatross bars?

[dstein]

FWIW I bought a Hunqapillar around 2013 or so and Brian (former Riv 
mechanic) steered me to the Albastache bars which are fairly aggressive. I 
was concerned about it being to aggressive but with a short stem and a high 
position it felt natural and I like it. I played around with a few 
different bars after that but went back to Albastache ultimately. I sold 
the bike in 2016 or so though.

David
Oakland, CA

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Re: [RBW] Introduction and "Classic" Roadini

[Jim Plaugher]

I haven't weighed it. It has a light "let's just go a ride" feel, but is also 
very stable. I don't weigh it down with a large saddlebag like my Mt Fuji. So I 
have to bring a back pack for shopping. Back packs don't count as part of the 
bike weight, right?

Jim in Lansing Iowa

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Re: [RBW] Re: 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Jonathan D.]

I have a 75 PBH and the Atlantis fits great.  I have one of the Waterford 
versions.  Works well with drops in my size.  I also ride a 59 Roadeo and 55 
Appaloosa for comparison. 

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[RBW] Re: A different Mustache/Albastache set-up?

[Dave Johnston]

I have seen pictures of the reverse style levers stuck in the ends of the 
bar but it looks awkward, but doesn't take up had real estate.

The drop portion isn't as long as an Albatross so it might be cramped with 
a lever clamped on, but the new Albastache does have more room than the old 
Moustache.

Velo orange makes a lever compatible with both road (23.8mm) and with shims 
for MTB/city sized (22.2mm) handlebars.
https://velo-orange.com/collections/brake-levers/products/grand-cru-brake-levers

You could also use interrupter levers, by themselves if you find the kind 
where the cable end sits nicely where the housing usually goes.
https://velo-orange.com/collections/brake-levers/products/tektro-rl720-cross-levers-all-silver

Or you can get a similar effect with a Billie bar and a longer stem.

-Dave J



On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 10:14:34 PM UTC-4, Dave Small wrote:
>
> When I see a Mustache or Albastache bar installed it almost always has 
> drop-bar brake levers installed sideways at the bends and is completely 
> wrapped like a drop bar.  When I see an Albatross or other typical upright 
> bar installed it almost almost always has the city-type brake levers 
> installed in a typical orientation toward the ends of the bar and has some 
> type of grip but is bare other than that.  
>
> I don't recall ever seeing a Mustache or Albastache bar set up like an 
> Albatross bar, with city brake levers and grips installed in typical 
> upright-bar fashion.  Is anyone aware of a reason that wouldn't work well? 
>  I'm tempted to try it but thought I'd ask here first in case there's a 
> reason that I simply don't see.  Thanks.
>
> Dave
> Boston/Indy 
>

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[RBW] A different Mustache/Albastache set-up?

[Mackenzy Albright]

You could always try bar end brake levers.

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Re: [RBW] Re: 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Ian A]

Drw

You are definitely correct about the geo changing over, but this particular one 
seems to be the exception. It is tempting because Ryan's bikes fit me too and 
he has great taste.

>From Ryan's CL ad:

"Beautiful bike but it's just not for me. It's a 56cm 650B Rivendell Atlantis 
made by Waterford. The geometry is closer to the older 26" Atlantis than the 
new MIT version with longer stays and sloping top tube. I'm 5'9" and it fits 
great with a 90mm stem and bars about even with the saddle (as shown about 28" 
from center of bb to top of saddle)."

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[RBW] I got lucky.

[Joel Stern]

I gave an old friend and customer a nice B17 over 10 years ago.  He doesn’t 
like it, hasn’t used it and it  looks like I will get it back, maybe 
Friday.  

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Drw]

Looks like kalloy has a 26.8 with 2 bolts now. Zero setback though. Anyone 
tried it?

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Re: [RBW] Re: 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Drw]

Ian,
I’m pretty sure it’s the same.  650b 56cm waterfords were only offered for like 
6 months max. Prior To that they were 26” or 700c (For 58 and up). In those 6 
ish months the frame geometry was very similar to the old version but for 
chainstays which were only about 15mm more than the previous version. After 
that they were/are made in Taiwan with much different geometry. 

This was a strange time when atlanti, hunqapillars and homers briefly moved to 
being semi custom Waterford orders. Before MIT versions were introduced. And 
kind of simultaneous to the Appaloosa release. 

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[RBW] A different Mustache/Albastache set-up?

[Ryan M.]

Different bar diameter is the difference. Albatross bars use 22.2 grip diameter 
brake levers Which are standard for MTB and the mustache bars use standard road 
bike diameter which is 23.8.

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[RBW] A different Mustache/Albastache set-up?

[ted]

Bar diameter and lever clamp size are different for city vs road.

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Corwin]

Hey George -

A couple years ago, I bought a tandem outfitted with two 26.8 seat posts. 
Did not like either since they were not two-bolt.

Found a couple Campagnolo 26.8 two-bolt seat posts on EBay. Not sure about 
the prices I paid - but they were much less than current Nitto two-bolt 
seat posts.

Namaste,


Corwin

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 12:31:54 PM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info, gents, but I seem recall doing a search for this 
> sometime in the past and finding very little.  So, to make sure I wasn't 
> just talking through my hat, I got out the calipers and re-measured the one 
> that's on there now.  Turns out that I was (talking through my hat, that 
> is).  It measures 26.5mm.  It's not the original post, but one that fits - 
> it came off an old Schwinn.  That means a 26.6 would probably work, but 
> those are the cheap ones, mainly single bolt that are out there in the 
> market.  I'd measure the original post, but I lost track of it. I recall 
> that it had some strange Greek lettering on it.  But I suspect that .1mm 
> either way would've fit.  
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:03:58 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote:
>>
>> Quick ebay search shows 4 used, silver, 26.8, 2 bolt posts available ATM. 
>> Not really scarce.
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:49:50 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> Ann is facing an interesting dilemma, as am I.  One of my bikes is a 
>>> nearly 50 year old Fuji road bike from the early 70's.  It was in pretty 
>>> bad shape when I got it and I fixed it up with various more modern 
>>> components, etc. into a Resurrectio.  But the one constraint is that 26.8 
>>> seat post.  I'd like something more modern, something with the two-bolt 
>>> saddle clamp, as described above.  But it's slim pickin's out there in the 
>>> component market and I'm pretty much stuck with a cheap old single-bolt, 
>>> hard to adjust accurately seat post, like it or not.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:26:02 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote:

 Dave:

 Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 
 250 Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.



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[RBW] A different Mustache/Albastache set-up?

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

When I see a Mustache or Albastache bar installed it almost always has 
drop-bar brake levers installed sideways at the bends and is completely 
wrapped like a drop bar.  When I see an Albatross or other typical upright 
bar installed it almost almost always has the city-type brake levers 
installed in a typical orientation toward the ends of the bar and has some 
type of grip but is bare other than that.  

I don't recall ever seeing a Mustache or Albastache bar set up like an 
Albatross bar, with city brake levers and grips installed in typical 
upright-bar fashion.  Is anyone aware of a reason that wouldn't work well? 
 I'm tempted to try it but thought I'd ask here first in case there's a 
reason that I simply don't see.  Thanks.

Dave
Boston/Indy 

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Re: [RBW] Re: anyone know how to figure out Tire Radius/rim radius?

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Jason.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 7:54 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:

> I go with this simple formula, which may not be exactly right but it's
> close I think, and good for comparing one size to another.
>
> 26" = 559mm
> 650B = 584mm
> 700c = 622mm
>
> Tire outside diameter = rim diameter + (2 x tire diameter)
>
> ie 650b x 42 would be 584 + 42 + 42 = 668mm -> your radius is therefore
> half that, 334mm
>
> I think this is accurate enough for whomever's asking, but if you have the
> bike with the wheels and you can just measure, just measure ground to the
> top of the tire and divide by two
>
>
> On Wednesday, 15 July 2020 at 16:21:55 UTC-7 Joel Stern wrote:
>
>> I was asked to get my tire radius and I have no cluehow to do it.
>>
>> I am riding the 42mm Baby Shoe Pass
>>
>> I have them on a Velocity Synergy rim, this are the specs. I am running
>> the rear at 40psi and the front at about 37psi.   Any help will be
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks, Joel
>>
>> At 23mm wide, with eyelets and a low profile, it's the perfect rim for
>> all those times you want to use a little wider tire. Use it for your 29'er
>> or your commuter. The possibilities are endless.
>> Item Specifications
>> Color Silver
>> Weight 584g
>> Width 23mm
>> Intended Use Road
>> Hub Drilling 32spokes
>> Brake Compatibility Rim Brake
>> Valve Presta
>> ISO Diameter 584 / 650b / 27.5"
>> Valve Length Short 32-40mm
>> Wheel Size 650b
>> Tire Type Clincher
>> Rim Center Offset 0mm
>> Rim Material Alloy
>> Brake Track Non-Machined
>> Defined Color Silver
>> Internal Rim Width 17mm
>>
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[RBW] Re: For Sale Redwood 1500

[Dave Johnston]

about a foot too big for me but cool nonetheless.
https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood-dropped/7153843392.html


On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:35:55 PM UTC-4, bo richardson wrote:
>
> I am helping a friend sell her Redwood. Her brother bought it and then 
> found a 68 Atlantis frame
> and built that up and sold the Redwood to his sister Kim. She upgraded the 
> bike quite a bit, including a fresh drivetrain
> including shifters,  Then she found a Rambouillet 66,root beer color and 
> bought that.
>
> The Redwood is a very nice bicycle and needs to be paroled from the dark 
> crowded garage.
> Paint is naybe9/10. included is a dark green Brooks and the pedals.
> Lots of Nitto
> check out the ad on craigslist Bellingham/ Seattle.
> If those photos interest you enough I can email better ones.
> Kim wants1500$ including everything, as it sits.
> my phone is dead, but my email works.
> thanks for your interest
> Bo Richardson
> borussky@gmail
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Ian A]

Tirebiter: Drw's MIT 56 is quite a different size to the one for sale. Check 
the CL link for size info 
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-atlantis-56cm-musa/7160001788.html

IanA Alberta Canada

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Re: [RBW] Re: 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Lyman Labry]

Cool. Thanks.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 5:57 PM Drw  wrote:

> I have a waterford 56 650b atlantis. I think my pbh is 86-87.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:27:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Brose wrote:
>>
>> Just thought I'd let people know there is a  Waterford 650b 56cm Atlantis
>> for sale on the 650b google groups. Seller is a good guy. I've done
>> business with him for years. If I didn't have one it would be mine by now.
>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/650b/pW8VP0InWTU
>>
>> Frank
>>
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[RBW] Re: 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Drw]

I’ll also say that the 650b Atlantis is absolutely spectacular. I’m so glad I 
got one in the brief window when geometry was semi-traditional, but still 
halfway long. I also have a 56cm toyo Atlantis (soon for sale) and I’ve had a 
hunq and a Sam. The newer Atlantis pulled all my favorite parts of those bikes 
into one thing. 2200 is a steal. I think my frame cost almost that. 

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[RBW] Re: anyone know how to figure out Tire Radius/rim radius?

[Jason Fuller]

I go with this simple formula, which may not be exactly right but it's 
close I think, and good for comparing one size to another. 

26" = 559mm 
650B = 584mm 
700c = 622mm 

Tire outside diameter = rim diameter + (2 x tire diameter)

ie 650b x 42 would be 584 + 42 + 42 = 668mm -> your radius is therefore 
half that, 334mm

I think this is accurate enough for whomever's asking, but if you have the 
bike with the wheels and you can just measure, just measure ground to the 
top of the tire and divide by two


On Wednesday, 15 July 2020 at 16:21:55 UTC-7 Joel Stern wrote:

> I was asked to get my tire radius and I have no cluehow to do it.
>
> I am riding the 42mm Baby Shoe Pass
>
> I have them on a Velocity Synergy rim, this are the specs. I am running 
> the rear at 40psi and the front at about 37psi.   Any help will be 
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks, Joel
>
> At 23mm wide, with eyelets and a low profile, it's the perfect rim for all 
> those times you want to use a little wider tire. Use it for your 29'er or 
> your commuter. The possibilities are endless.
> Item Specifications
> Color Silver
> Weight 584g
> Width 23mm
> Intended Use Road
> Hub Drilling 32spokes
> Brake Compatibility Rim Brake
> Valve Presta
> ISO Diameter 584 / 650b / 27.5"
> Valve Length Short 32-40mm
> Wheel Size 650b
> Tire Type Clincher
> Rim Center Offset 0mm
> Rim Material Alloy
> Brake Track Non-Machined
> Defined Color Silver
> Internal Rim Width 17mm
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[RBW] Re: Looking for hat recommendation similar to Fair Ends cap

[chris feczko]

MIke,

I'm feeling your pain. I've had quite the collection of fairends caps over 
the years. Probably my most sweat stained was my Rivendell cap that flew 
off my head while going over a bridge. Seeing that they went out of 
business bums me out so much. Lucklily they come up on ebay and depop 
sometimes.

Chris

Queens

On Wednesday, 15 July 2020 at 19:01:58 UTC-4 Drw wrote:

> One of the rounds that riv did used Graffiti hats or graffiti caps. i 
> think they are in oakland. fit is very similar to a fair ends hat i have. I 
> also just ordered a hat from weld mfg, for similar reasons to you, in that 
> it looks similar.  should have it in a couple days. 
>

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[RBW] anyone know how to figure out Tire Radius/rim radius?

[Joel Stern]

I was asked to get my tire radius and I have no cluehow to do it.

I am riding the 42mm Baby Shoe Pass

I have them on a Velocity Synergy rim, this are the specs. I am running the 
rear at 40psi and the front at about 37psi.   Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks, Joel

At 23mm wide, with eyelets and a low profile, it's the perfect rim for all 
those times you want to use a little wider tire. Use it for your 29'er or 
your commuter. The possibilities are endless.
Item Specifications
Color Silver
Weight 584g
Width 23mm
Intended Use Road
Hub Drilling 32spokes
Brake Compatibility Rim Brake
Valve Presta
ISO Diameter 584 / 650b / 27.5"
Valve Length Short 32-40mm
Wheel Size 650b
Tire Type Clincher
Rim Center Offset 0mm
Rim Material Alloy
Brake Track Non-Machined
Defined Color Silver
Internal Rim Width 17mm

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[RBW] Re: 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Ian A]

The one for sale (by Ryan Nute - an absolutely 100% trustworthy person) is a 
650b based much more closely on the original 56cm geometry. It's on Seattle 
Craigslist.

I have bought a bicycle from Ryan in the past and have only good things to say 
about him.

IanA Alberta Canada

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

[somervillebikes]

I've used generic spray glues, can't think of any brand names. Maybe Ace 
brand... anyway it always works well for a year or so then loosens and I 
repeat. I suppose that might be better than the permanent stuff that forces 
you to chip away a cork bits when you want to remove them.

Anton
velolumino.com

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[RBW] Re: Looking for hat recommendation similar to Fair Ends cap

[Drw]

One of the rounds that riv did used Graffiti hats or graffiti caps. i think 
they are in oakland. fit is very similar to a fair ends hat i have. I also 
just ordered a hat from weld mfg, for similar reasons to you, in that it 
looks similar.  should have it in a couple days. 

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[RBW] Re: 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Drw]

I have a waterford 56 650b atlantis. I think my pbh is 86-87. 



On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 3:27:10 PM UTC-7, Frank Brose wrote:
>
> Just thought I'd let people know there is a  Waterford 650b 56cm Atlantis 
> for sale on the 650b google groups. Seller is a good guy. I've done 
> business with him for years. If I didn't have one it would be mine by now.
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/650b/pW8VP0InWTU
>
> Frank
>

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Re: [RBW] 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Lyman Labry]

Would you know off hand the PBH range?  Thanks

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 5:27 PM Frank Brose  wrote:

> Just thought I'd let people know there is a  Waterford 650b 56cm Atlantis
> for sale on the 650b google groups. Seller is a good guy. I've done
> business with him for years. If I didn't have one it would be mine by now.
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/650b/pW8VP0InWTU
>
>
> Frank
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[RBW] 56cm Atlantis on 650b google groups

[Frank Brose]

Just thought I'd let people know there is a  Waterford 650b 56cm Atlantis 
for sale on the 650b google groups. Seller is a good guy. I've done 
business with him for years. If I didn't have one it would be mine by now.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/650b/pW8VP0InWTU

Frank

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Jim,

   Would you guess you use a strip of Newbaum's somewhere between 1/2 the 
length of the cork grip and the full length of the grip?

John

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:58:20 PM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:
>
> John, I just use a strip length-wise under the grip. You could try one on 
> the top and one on the bottom, if one strip alone isn't tight enough. I 
> can't figure out why, but the length of the strip matters. A longer strip 
> seems to hold it in place more than a shorter one, but I"ve had it where if 
> I make the strip too long, I can't get the grip on to the bar. So there's a 
> sweet spot.
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:29:49 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>>  Are you using one strip of Newbaum's on the handlebar length-wise 
>> under the grip, or wrapping a strip of Newbaum's around the bar under the 
>> grip?
>>
>> If I could get cork grips to work without glue, that would be fantastic.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 5:58:34 AM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:
>>>
>>> John, I've had success with a strip of newbaum's tape. No glue, no 
>>> nothing else. If you don't have enough tape, they'll rotate. If you use too 
>>> much tape,  you can't get the grips on. But you'll figure out an amount 
>>> that holds the grips in place. Then you can remove the grips later without 
>>> needing a blow torch.
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 12:19:26 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>>
   Do you have a favorite adhesive you use to keep them from rotating?

 Thanks,

 John

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

[Jim S.]

John, I just use a strip length-wise under the grip. You could try one on 
the top and one on the bottom, if one strip alone isn't tight enough. I 
can't figure out why, but the length of the strip matters. A longer strip 
seems to hold it in place more than a shorter one, but I"ve had it where if 
I make the strip too long, I can't get the grip on to the bar. So there's a 
sweet spot.

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:29:49 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:

> Hi Jim,
>
>  Are you using one strip of Newbaum's on the handlebar length-wise 
> under the grip, or wrapping a strip of Newbaum's around the bar under the 
> grip?
>
> If I could get cork grips to work without glue, that would be fantastic.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 5:58:34 AM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:
>>
>> John, I've had success with a strip of newbaum's tape. No glue, no 
>> nothing else. If you don't have enough tape, they'll rotate. If you use too 
>> much tape,  you can't get the grips on. But you'll figure out an amount 
>> that holds the grips in place. Then you can remove the grips later without 
>> needing a blow torch.
>>
>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 12:19:26 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>>
>>>   Do you have a favorite adhesive you use to keep them from rotating?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Joe Bernard]

Score! Good call, Ann, it's a great strong post with the added benefit of lotsa 
setback. You may not have to slam your saddle all the way back. 

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[RBW] Looking for hat recommendation similar to Fair Ends cap

[MikeS]

Hello folks-

Does anyone know of a cotton cap similar in fit and styling to the Fair Ends 
caps formerly offered from Rivendell?

I purchased a waxed cotton cap directly from Fair Ends last autumn and find it 
fits my big melon better than any other cap I’ve ever tried.  I also liked that 
they were MUSA and just seemed like a cool company that I’d like to patronize.  
I subsequently bought a couple wool tweed versions over the winter, including 
one just as the virus was closing the country down.  Fair Ends sent out an 
email at the time saying they were closing due to the shutdown, were 
liquidating their remaining stock, and hoped to reopen when possible.

As the weather has turned, I find that I’d love a similar cap in a lighter 
cotton fabric. Unfortunately their website https://fairends.com is now down.  I 
have emailed the last customer service address I have but alas have heard 
nothing back and fear the worst.

So does anyone have a recommendation for a light cotton cap that might fit like 
the Fair Ends?  Preferably made by a US-based progressive company run by actual 
humans rather than some faceless international conglomerate?  Or, for that 
matter, a gently used Fair Ends cap?

Cheers- Mike in Somerville, MA

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks for the help, folks.  I just bought a Nitto s83 off of ebay for $82, 
including shipping.  Hopefully, this will end my bolt shearing 
experiences.  Although I didn't crash the last time it happened, I did have 
to walk my bike back for almost 5 miles so I will happily pay not to do 
that again.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Kellogg Spectrum Road Bike 62c-c x 56c-c

[Paul Brodek]

Thanks, Evan. There's a little too much blue in the color mix, but I didn't 
have the patience to tweak 'em any further.

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Monday, July 6, 2020 at 8:33:04 PM UTC-4, Evan E. wrote:
>
> Wow! Beautiful bike. Beautiful photos.
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Kellogg Spectrum Road Bike 62c-c x 56c-c

[Paul Brodek]

Dropping this to $900 hoping for some nibbles

On Sunday, July 5, 2020 at 8:39:51 PM UTC-4, Paul Brodek wrote:
>
> Kellog Spectrum Road: $900 pickup/drop-off 
>
> I'm gonna try to clear a few hooks and made some space, spin off a 
> couple/few steeds that don't get out much. Between me not having any bike 
> boxes, and all my local LBS having a very hard time getting any new bikes, 
> so no free boxes readily available, I'm starting out saying no shipping 
> right now. I'll drive 50mi from NE Jersey, 07642, north, west or south, to 
> meetup and drop off. It that doesn't work, I'll look at shipping, but won't 
> make any promises until I can score some boxes.
>
> Obliquely ibobish/Rivvish like a Bridgestone RB-1..? 
>
> This is a Spectrum road frame of indeterminate age, tallish with a 
> shortish top tube. Some of the frame details, mainly the top-of-bb cable 
> guides and older Spectrum decal, say mid-'80s to me, but I don't see a ser# 
> on the bb shell, and there's a simple "94" stamped on the steerer tube. 
> 94th frame built? Can't imagine it was spec'd this way in '94, especially 
> with the older decals.
>
> Has all the Kellogg/Spectrum hallmarks: clean lugs, lovely scalloped seat 
> stay plugs, smooth/clean top tube internal brake casing routing with 
> internal guide tube, and beefy chain stays with minimal/precise dimples.
>
> It is a performance road frame, tight wheelbase, upright angles, no 
> fender/rack bosses. It rides fast and smooth, but with pretty neutral 
> handling. Never felt like an '80s crit bike to me. 
>
> I'd call 26-27mm actual width max, pinch point is under the front brake. 
> True 28mm tires rubbed the underside of the front brake, and were pretty 
> darn tight both at the chainstays and under the rear brake.
>
> No dents, dings, or scrapes deeper than primer. 
>
> Rides straight, threads are clean. My last pre-sale build was a test bed 
> for a 38/24 double, which didn't work in the rear with the bb-top cable 
> guides, so there's a drilled/tapped hole in the bb for an under-bb cable 
> guide. I'll plug it with a bolt.
>
> Pretty clean metalflake black overall, with a few scrapes, visible in the 
> photos. Biggest ones are on the outside of the drive-side seat stay, and 
> under the Kellogg name on the non-drive chainstay. No rust or paint 
> bubbling; the top tube brake casing openings are clean, which isn't always 
> the case. 
>
> Build is all the 740x Dura-Ace you can get, except for the bottom bracket. 
> Details below.
>
> Happy to answer questions. Some pix attached, more at flickr:
> [url]
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/albums/72157662802506202[/url]
>
> 50mi of N-S-W Jersey/07642
>
> ST 62.0cm c-c, 63.5cm c-t
> TT: 56.0cm c-c
> HT: 200mm
> Saddle height in photos: 81.5cm (stem/post are at min insertion in pix)
> ST 72.8-deg, HT 74.0-deg
> Chainstay: 41.5cm, wheelbase 97.5cm
> BB drop: 66mm
> Standover: 86.0cm/33.8"
> Rear spacing: 126mm
> Tire clearance: 26-27mm actual
> 
> Frame: 4.5lb/2.0kg
> Fork: 1.7lb/0.78k
> F/F: 6.2lb/2.8kg
> Built weight: 22.13lb w/pedals
>
> Build is mostly Shimano Dura-Ace 740x series:
>
> FC-7402 crankset, 172.5mm, 39x52t
> FD-7403 front deraileur
> RD-7402 rear derailleur
> SL-740x shifters, 8spd indexed
> BR-7402 brakes
> BL-7402 brake levers
> SP-740x seatpost, 27.2mm
> D-A headset, sealed bearing
> D-A handlebar stem, 120mm, w/aluminum repop cap
>
> Wheels:
> D-A hubset, 32h, Uniglide 8spd 13-24t
> D-A qr skewers
> Mavic Open 4D rims
> Michelin Axial Pro 700x23 (actual 22.8mm rear; 23.5mm front)
>
> Other:
> Shimano UN-55 107mm sealed bearing bottom bracket
> KMC chain
> Nitto B-177 48cm bars
> Giro Pave saddle
>
> Apologies for the goofy Wellgo MG-1 screaming yellow pedals. They were on 
> my bench. Yours if you want them.
>
> Album with current FS build at the top, past builds below:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/albums/72157662802506202
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> [image: 50079998238_9fdbe1e471_c.jpg]
>
>

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[RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[EGNolan]

I've got a Handsome XOXO, a tigged re-make of the XO-1. I also have a 
Roadini. I love both bikes and it would be a hard choice to have one, but 
I'd go Roadini. It's a refined bike, and will give you many more years of 
enjoyment. 

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:53:04 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> I'd love to know how this turned out. That XO is gone. 

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[RBW] For Sale Redwood 1500

[bo richardson]

I am helping a friend sell her Redwood. Her brother bought it and then found a 
68 Atlantis frame
and built that up and sold the Redwood to his sister Kim. She upgraded the bike 
quite a bit, including a fresh drivetrain
including shifters,  Then she found a Rambouillet 66,root beer color and bought 
that.

The Redwood is a very nice bicycle and needs to be paroled from the dark 
crowded garage.
Paint is naybe9/10. included is a dark green Brooks and the pedals.
Lots of Nitto
check out the ad on craigslist Bellingham/ Seattle.
If those photos interest you enough I can email better ones.
Kim wants1500$ including everything, as it sits.
my phone is dead, but my email works.
thanks for your interest
Bo Richardson
borussky@gmail


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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[George Schick]

Thanks for the info, gents, but I seem recall doing a search for this 
sometime in the past and finding very little.  So, to make sure I wasn't 
just talking through my hat, I got out the calipers and re-measured the one 
that's on there now.  Turns out that I was (talking through my hat, that 
is).  It measures 26.5mm.  It's not the original post, but one that fits - 
it came off an old Schwinn.  That means a 26.6 would probably work, but 
those are the cheap ones, mainly single bolt that are out there in the 
market.  I'd measure the original post, but I lost track of it. I recall 
that it had some strange Greek lettering on it.  But I suspect that .1mm 
either way would've fit.  


On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:03:58 PM UTC-5, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> Quick ebay search shows 4 used, silver, 26.8, 2 bolt posts available ATM. 
> Not really scarce.
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:49:50 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Ann is facing an interesting dilemma, as am I.  One of my bikes is a 
>> nearly 50 year old Fuji road bike from the early 70's.  It was in pretty 
>> bad shape when I got it and I fixed it up with various more modern 
>> components, etc. into a Resurrectio.  But the one constraint is that 26.8 
>> seat post.  I'd like something more modern, something with the two-bolt 
>> saddle clamp, as described above.  But it's slim pickin's out there in the 
>> component market and I'm pretty much stuck with a cheap old single-bolt, 
>> hard to adjust accurately seat post, like it or not.
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:26:02 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote:
>>>
>>> Dave:
>>>
>>> Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 
>>> 250 Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

['John Phillips' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Jim,

 Are you using one strip of Newbaum's on the handlebar length-wise 
under the grip, or wrapping a strip of Newbaum's around the bar under the 
grip?

If I could get cork grips to work without glue, that would be fantastic.

Thanks,

John

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 5:58:34 AM UTC-7, Jim S. wrote:
>
> John, I've had success with a strip of newbaum's tape. No glue, no nothing 
> else. If you don't have enough tape, they'll rotate. If you use too much 
> tape,  you can't get the grips on. But you'll figure out an amount that 
> holds the grips in place. Then you can remove the grips later without 
> needing a blow torch.
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 12:19:26 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>>   Do you have a favorite adhesive you use to keep them from rotating?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John
>>
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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[Brian Campbell]

Quick ebay search shows 4 used, silver, 26.8, 2 bolt posts available ATM. 
Not really scarce.

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:49:50 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> Ann is facing an interesting dilemma, as am I.  One of my bikes is a 
> nearly 50 year old Fuji road bike from the early 70's.  It was in pretty 
> bad shape when I got it and I fixed it up with various more modern 
> components, etc. into a Resurrectio.  But the one constraint is that 26.8 
> seat post.  I'd like something more modern, something with the two-bolt 
> saddle clamp, as described above.  But it's slim pickin's out there in the 
> component market and I'm pretty much stuck with a cheap old single-bolt, 
> hard to adjust accurately seat post, like it or not.
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:26:02 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote:
>>
>> Dave:
>>
>> Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 
>> 250 Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[lconley]

Nitto S-83 is a two bolt available in 26.8, I have several.

Laing

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 2:49:50 PM UTC-4 George Schick wrote:

> Ann is facing an interesting dilemma, as am I.  One of my bikes is a 
> nearly 50 year old Fuji road bike from the early 70's.  It was in pretty 
> bad shape when I got it and I fixed it up with various more modern 
> components, etc. into a Resurrectio.  But the one constraint is that 26.8 
> seat post.  I'd like something more modern, something with the two-bolt 
> saddle clamp, as described above.  But it's slim pickin's out there in the 
> component market and I'm pretty much stuck with a cheap old single-bolt, 
> hard to adjust accurately seat post, like it or not.
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:26:02 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote:
>>
>> Dave:
>>
>> Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 
>> 250 Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[Joe Bernard]

I'd love to know how this turned out. That XO is gone. 

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[George Schick]

Ann is facing an interesting dilemma, as am I.  One of my bikes is a nearly 
50 year old Fuji road bike from the early 70's.  It was in pretty bad shape 
when I got it and I fixed it up with various more modern components, etc. 
into a Resurrectio.  But the one constraint is that 26.8 seat post.  I'd 
like something more modern, something with the two-bolt saddle clamp, as 
described above.  But it's slim pickin's out there in the component market 
and I'm pretty much stuck with a cheap old single-bolt, hard to adjust 
accurately seat post, like it or not.


On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 1:26:02 PM UTC-5, Ann L wrote:
>
> Dave:
>
> Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 250 
> Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

[J L]

Ann,

I think the bolt fix you did a year ago is keen!  Thank you for posting about 
this. If I have to do a seat post bolt repair in the wild I will know to look 
for a high grade bolt. Sorry yours only worked for a year, glad to hear you 
were not hurt.

A B67 has all kinds of leverage from three sides and built in kinetic spring 
energy. Add in some poor luck and I can see how this might end up with a bolt 
sheering off.

Jason

> On Jul 15, 2020, at 11:26 AM, 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Dave:
> 
> Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 250 
> Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.
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[RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

As Jason noted in a July 10th post, there is also a nice orange Gallop 
frame hanging above the silver one.

David in Berkeley (who wishes the smaller ones were to be made as 650b)

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 8:47:57 AM UTC-7, Jeff B wrote:
>
> If anyone zoomed in enough in the last email update, the Gallop Prototype 
> was in this photo. Photo credit to Will as seen in the email update.
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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Dave:

Thank you.  But I don't think it will work.  I currently have a 26.8 x 250 
Nitto 65s seatpost and that one only comes in 27.2.

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[RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[John Bokman]

Sorry if you already answered this and I missed it, but: How does the ride 
of your HOmer compare to that of your Hillborne? Is the Homer noticeably 
more sprightly? Noticeably a better climber? Etc.

Thanks. I own a  700c Hillborne and love it, but I want to get a 650b bike, 
also, and don't need something as stout as my Sam.

On Wednesday, June 24, 2020 at 3:08:32 PM UTC-7, Adam Leibow wrote:
>
> here's a similarly bad photo of my new MIT homer, which i bought a few 
> weeks ago. loving it so far
>
> [image: IMG_1356.jpeg]
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 1, 2019 at 11:29:13 AM UTC-8, Adam Leibow wrote:
>>
>> hi all, i want to create a thread where you just post a picture of your 
>> rivendell(s) whenever you feel like it. hope this is OK w/ the mods. i love 
>> lookin at pics of em all day. i will start with my sam hillborne.
>>
>>
>> [image: IMG_3920.jpeg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: My New Atlantis

[☆ Paul ☆]

Hi Joel.

That looks awesome. I'm going to give that a shot.

Really enthusiastically new to a lot of this. Rad.

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 12:58:59 PM UTC-4 Joel Stern wrote:

>
> I spend a lot f time in the curve of the Albatross bars.  I sit upright 
> far less.  Drops would kill my back but stretching out here is fine and I 
> like how it feels in the curvy part of the bar. 
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 12:25 PM Clark Fitzgerald  
> wrote:
>
>> Those Paul levers are beautiful! If you want even more hand positions try 
>> wrapping the whole bar and the top of the brake levers. Hands on the bends 
>> offer an aggressive, secure position. So versatile.
>>
>> [image: IMG_1058.JPG]
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 7:55:14 AM UTC-7 ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>>
>>> One more photo, now with narrow saddle & Bille handlebars I stole from 
>>> the other bike... and really long 170mm Odi BMX grips I picked up yesterday 
>>> for $11 (go BMX shop!).
>>>
>>> This set up is kind of ultimate. I spent 2 hours on the bike yesterday 
>>> and found myself moving from mostly upright (hands on end of grips) to a 
>>> bit more aggressive (up at top of grips) all the time, and it is kind of 
>>> amazing. Paul brake levers are long enough so that I can stopfrom all hand 
>>> positions.
>>>
>>> Also Yokozuna brake housing makes an appreciable difference in braking 
>>> power over standard Jagwire housing. Which may be pointless in the city, 
>>> but it sure feels nice to stop with a bang.
>>>
>>> Fenders next whenever they arrive.
>>>
>>> XO Paul
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_0996 2.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 10:46:25 AM UTC-4 ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>>>
 Hi Doug.

 I'm pretty set up with bikes for the moment, but I'm trying to sort out 
 if an older (horizontal top-tube) 56cm Atlantis will fit my friend, who is 
 5'10-ish.

 P

 On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 12:45:01 AM UTC-4 dougP wrote:

> Paul:
>
> Thanks for the chainguard info.  I'll look into it.
>
> Not sure what the max tire size with fenders is.  The Toyos were rated 
> at 52 mm for 700c (58 cm & up) and 2.1 for 26" (56 cm & below), but no 
> mention of whether that was with fenders.  I've had 45 mm Schwalbe 
> Marathon 
> Supremes on with fenders and still had clearance.  Tires vary so much in 
> actual size it's hard to make an educated guess.  
>
> What size is the one you are looking at?
>
> dougP
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 2:12:06 PM UTC-7, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>>
>> Hi Doug,
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>>
>> It's interesting, because a lot of long wheelbase bikes have too much 
>> rake up front, which makes the front feel kind of sloggy. The new 
>> Atlantis 
>> has a tight enough rake, just a long rear end, and so it still feels 
>> relatively agile. Very cleverly done.
>>
>> What is the max tire size on your older Atlantis with fenders? I've 
>> seen those and they look so nice. There's an amazing black one for sale 
>> right now on eBay. 
>>
>> The crank is a New Albion w/ 42T.  Actually, it comes stock as a 
>> 42/33 but I just took off the small chainring. It's great because it has 
>> a 
>> bash guard built in (you have to flip the guard around if you want to 
>> run 
>> it as a 1x to give more clearance) and also because it's really a Sugino 
>> crank (comes out of the same mold as the XD2 I think). If you use a 
>> 36/12 
>> cassette as a 1x9 or 1x10 you're pretty much dialed unless you're really 
>> mountain biking crazy rough terrain. You can get it from Soma.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:48:57 PM UTC-4 dougP wrote:
>>
>>> Paul:
>>>
>>> BTW, the 1 x 10 is not unusual.  If it does what you need done, it's 
>>> right for you.  Long ago, Grant said something to the effect that a 
>>> bike 
>>> frame was just a place to hang all the parts you need for what you want 
>>> to 
>>> do with your bike.  I doubt there are too many Rivendells out there 
>>> that 
>>> are duplicates.
>>>
>>> What chainguard are you using?  It gives the bike a nice, clean look.
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 7:46:18 AM UTC-7, ☆ Paul ☆ wrote:
>>>
 Hello Everyone. I'm new-is here.

 Almost finished building up my new Atlantis MIT and thought I'd 
 share it. *What does MIT stand for, anyway?*

 Finally coming to the realization that a really upright geometry 
 makes me happiest. Being a bit slower, I force my friends to slow down 
 too 
 and conversation is the result.

 A little bit unconventionally for a Rivendell (I think?) I mounted 
 a 1x10 SRAM drivetrain, which works brilliantly on this frame. Also 
 took 
 The Deacon's 

Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

[john Bokman]

Nice! What kind of pedals are coming your way?

> On Jul 15, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
> 
> I got out for 30km on the new iteration of the XO-1 last night, and am very 
> pleased with this change to the flat-bar setup! It now fills the "speedy, fun 
> around-town bike" hole in my quiver, whereas before it overlapped strongly 
> with my Hillborne (and felt less refined).  I also ordered a few things for 
> it from Riv yesterday: pedals, 38T ring and guard, Tallux, and grey silicone 
> grips. Shipping / exchange to Canada is brutal, but fair trade-off for the 
> health care :D 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, 15 July 2020 at 04:38:43 UTC-7 Ryan M. wrote:
> Thanks, Patrick. It was definitely an adventure especially when I spooked 
> that gar that was laying in the water over the road. 
> 
> The last year here in Kentucky it seems like it has rained constantly. We've 
> had an abnormally wet time of it. 
> 
> On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 2:51:45 PM UTC-5 Deacon Patrick wrote:
> When your wheel becomes a rudder, Ryan, you know you're in deep! Looks like 
> fun adventure, and we could use some of that rain if you have any left! Grin.
> 
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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Re: [RBW] Re: (Large) Sackville Saddlebag without a Rack?

[Andrew Turner]

There's the rub, no you cannot, unless you're feeling extra crafty. 

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 12:08:00 PM UTC-5 Tirebiter ATX wrote:

> Watching ronsbikes video was a hoot.  Clever end run on racks.  But, you 
> can’t remove the sack without dismantling, no?
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 8:37 AM Andrew Turner  
> wrote:
>
>> While this is also pretty expensive for what it is, it's still cheaper 
>> than a rack, or you could DIY something similar for a few bucks less. 
>> https://ronsbikes.com/products/not-a-rack 
>>
>> I'm using one now on a Carradice Camper Long Flap that I modded with 3 
>> leather, essentially, belt loops to the bottom for the horizontal rod to 
>> run through. Works great! 
>>
>> - Andrew
>>
>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 11:56:46 PM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, and all,
>>> The Rivendell designs don't really have any stiffness to the front of 
>>> the bag (closest to the seat post and SQR) so their bags will collapse 
>>> around the SQR rack. I took my Homer out to RBWHQ in late 2018 to try out a 
>>> BaggaBond (and HappiSack) to see what the additional height of the SQR 
>>> system would do. It works, but not optimally.
>>> We also tried hoisting the BBond up with the string to the bottom loops 
>>> of the daisy chain trick. My saddle to tire distance is too small. And, I 
>>> don't use anything bigger than the old Medium SaddleSack, now.
>>> See attached photos.
>>>
>>> David Lipsky
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:41:46 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

 More about the Carradice SQR system: I works well to hold regular (and 
 not just the purpose-designed Super C Slim) transverse saddlebags higher 
 than the rear of the saddle (tho' your have to be aware that you'll need 
 to 
 lift your leg higher when you swing it over the saddle, in case that is a 
 problem). I'd guess you get up to 3" of additional lift over the tire 
 compared to strapping it to Brooks slots -- note of course that the 
 bag-holding device is far more vertical than that built in to the Super C 
 Slim. I've used it with the Camper and the Nelson and the Junior to hold 
 the top of the bag above the rear of the saddle. However, I'm not sure if 
 it works well with the flatter, more horizontal Rivendell design. Perhaps 
 others can address this?

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Re: [RBW] Re: (Large) Sackville Saddlebag without a Rack?

[Lyman Labry]

Watching ronsbikes video was a hoot.  Clever end run on racks.  But, you
can’t remove the sack without dismantling, no?

On Wed, Jul 15, 2020 at 8:37 AM Andrew Turner 
wrote:

> While this is also pretty expensive for what it is, it's still cheaper
> than a rack, or you could DIY something similar for a few bucks less.
> https://ronsbikes.com/products/not-a-rack
>
> I'm using one now on a Carradice Camper Long Flap that I modded with 3
> leather, essentially, belt loops to the bottom for the horizontal rod to
> run through. Works great!
>
> - Andrew
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 11:56:46 PM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:
>
>> Patrick, and all,
>> The Rivendell designs don't really have any stiffness to the front of the
>> bag (closest to the seat post and SQR) so their bags will collapse around
>> the SQR rack. I took my Homer out to RBWHQ in late 2018 to try out a
>> BaggaBond (and HappiSack) to see what the additional height of the SQR
>> system would do. It works, but not optimally.
>> We also tried hoisting the BBond up with the string to the bottom loops
>> of the daisy chain trick. My saddle to tire distance is too small. And, I
>> don't use anything bigger than the old Medium SaddleSack, now.
>> See attached photos.
>>
>> David Lipsky
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:41:46 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> More about the Carradice SQR system: I works well to hold regular (and
>>> not just the purpose-designed Super C Slim) transverse saddlebags higher
>>> than the rear of the saddle (tho' your have to be aware that you'll need to
>>> lift your leg higher when you swing it over the saddle, in case that is a
>>> problem). I'd guess you get up to 3" of additional lift over the tire
>>> compared to strapping it to Brooks slots -- note of course that the
>>> bag-holding device is far more vertical than that built in to the Super C
>>> Slim. I've used it with the Camper and the Nelson and the Junior to hold
>>> the top of the bag above the rear of the saddle. However, I'm not sure if
>>> it works well with the flatter, more horizontal Rivendell design. Perhaps
>>> others can address this?
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

[Ray Varella]

Thanks Benz. 
I’ll keep that in mind. 

Ray

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[RBW] Re: This is second time this happened and I am seriously annoyed. And I would like help to see this doesn't happen again.

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Ann,

If you need to replace the seat post, I'd recommend checking out 
Velo-Orange's long set-back post, seen here 
.
 
 It's a 2-bolt design so you don't need to crank it down, it has a set-back 
that's suitable for Brooks saddles, and it's reasonably priced.  

Dave
Boston/Indy

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Re: [RBW] Re: (Large) Sackville Saddlebag without a Rack?

[Andrew Turner]

While this is also pretty expensive for what it is, it's still cheaper than 
a rack, or you could DIY something similar for a few bucks less. 
https://ronsbikes.com/products/not-a-rack 

I'm using one now on a Carradice Camper Long Flap that I modded with 3 
leather, essentially, belt loops to the bottom for the horizontal rod to 
run through. Works great! 

- Andrew

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 11:56:46 PM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:

> Patrick, and all,
> The Rivendell designs don't really have any stiffness to the front of the 
> bag (closest to the seat post and SQR) so their bags will collapse around 
> the SQR rack. I took my Homer out to RBWHQ in late 2018 to try out a 
> BaggaBond (and HappiSack) to see what the additional height of the SQR 
> system would do. It works, but not optimally.
> We also tried hoisting the BBond up with the string to the bottom loops of 
> the daisy chain trick. My saddle to tire distance is too small. And, I 
> don't use anything bigger than the old Medium SaddleSack, now.
> See attached photos.
>
> David Lipsky
>
>
> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:41:46 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> More about the Carradice SQR system: I works well to hold regular (and 
>> not just the purpose-designed Super C Slim) transverse saddlebags higher 
>> than the rear of the saddle (tho' your have to be aware that you'll need to 
>> lift your leg higher when you swing it over the saddle, in case that is a 
>> problem). I'd guess you get up to 3" of additional lift over the tire 
>> compared to strapping it to Brooks slots -- note of course that the 
>> bag-holding device is far more vertical than that built in to the Super C 
>> Slim. I've used it with the Camper and the Nelson and the Junior to hold 
>> the top of the bag above the rear of the saddle. However, I'm not sure if 
>> it works well with the flatter, more horizontal Rivendell design. Perhaps 
>> others can address this?
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Your Favorite Adhesive for Riv Cork Grips???

[Jim S.]

John, I've had success with a strip of newbaum's tape. No glue, no nothing 
else. If you don't have enough tape, they'll rotate. If you use too much 
tape,  you can't get the grips on. But you'll figure out an amount that 
holds the grips in place. Then you can remove the grips later without 
needing a blow torch.

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 12:19:26 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:

>   Do you have a favorite adhesive you use to keep them from rotating?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>

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[RBW] Re: XO-1 or Roadini

[Ryan M.]

I'd get the Roadini. I like the looks of the roadini and the price is 
pretty good too. The tig welding does not bother me over the lugs, even 
though I personally would pony up cash for lugs. 

Or I would be looking hard at the A Homer Hilsen too. I kinda like the 
looks of the Homer better and it's a bit more versatile of a 
bike...meaning, you can take it on chunkier gravel stuff with larger tires. 

I will say this, I had a Roadeo and felt that bike rode great and can only 
imagine the Roadini, being a Riv road bike, will handle great too. 

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 9:47:40 AM UTC-5 zem...@gmail.com wrote:

> RBW Owners Bunch I need your help!
>
> I'm looking to venture into the world of my first Rivendell/Bridgestone. 
>
> I'm at an impasse right now. I'm thinking of putting in an order for a 
> Roadini and set it up with the new Shikoro 38mm tires Riv is carrying. But 
> there's also a mint condition XO-1 right now on eBay in my size. 
>
> I'm going to be using this bike for road and city riding, maybe some very 
> light grav grav. I have a Jones for a trail bike, so that's not really a 
> concern. My goal is to find a supple steel bike that fits a wider tire 
> without resorting to a disc break and the stiff fork that comes with it. 
>
> Which one would you go for?? Is this a silly comparison?? 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] daily post ur riv

[Ryan M.]

Thanks, Patrick. It was definitely an adventure especially when I spooked 
that gar that was laying in the water over the road. 

The last year here in Kentucky it seems like it has rained constantly. 
We've had an abnormally wet time of it. 

On Sunday, July 12, 2020 at 2:51:45 PM UTC-5 Deacon Patrick wrote:

> When your wheel becomes a rudder, Ryan, you know you're in deep! Looks 
> like fun adventure, and we could use some of that rain if you have any 
> left! Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

[ascpgh]

5" packaging stretch wrap on a handle. 
https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/444327/Office-Depot-Brand-Stretch-Wrap-Film/

I got one of these (mine from Home Depot) for something around here and I 
use it for more ways than they could put in the packaging. It's just the 
thing for wrapping headsets to prevent highway speed lube blowout/rain 
washout, the junction of seatpost to seat tube, saddles to create a 
protective cover that won't flutter/fail if you finish it off with nicely 
applied piece of packing tape. You can also wrap potential points along the 
frame or parts that my rub or be touched others. Not helicopter tape, but 
comes off. A little scissors cut (Those Swiss Army Knives) at the edge and 
the whole thickness of many wrapped layers can be removed at once. 

Also used it to bind stacks of old hardwood flooring curated for later use, 
keeping parts of furniture together for transport, as an overwrap to keep a 
balm on a foot/ankle instead of soaking into a sock/shoe and to hold a big 
gauze on a cleaned and covered abrasion that no self-adhesive equivalent 
will fit or stay on longer than five minutes. 

The worst "in-transit" beausage I've seen was wheel related (you are 
thankfully free from the horror of these with your rack). A wheel's rim 
braking surface gouged deeply by a pedal was one. Can't fix that other than 
sanding it smooth as functionally possible so the brake pad can pass over 
it without grabbing and making a loud "thonk" while still moving.  The 
other was a spot-fried until blown out tire of the bike nearest the 
exhaust. Not a proximity noticed when loading since most vehicles are 
discrete about their exhaust pipes. Then you're going down the road and 
hear a gunshot-like sound. You don't immediately see the scorched part of 
tire when you stop to look, but that one is flat and wonder how.  When the 
other side facing the exhaust is discovered, then you immediately know what 
happened and that you'll need a new tire and tube. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 3:56:58 PM UTC-4 Scott G. wrote:

> Plastic bags first, then some packaging stretch film, them some clear 
> packing tape
> to secure the stretch film. Zip tie  the pipe insulation.
> I do the above routine for the seat, and shifty bits on the handlebars.
> Carry the tape & film with you on the trip, you can make repairs at rest 
> stops.
> Think like an Egyptian Embalmer, wrap for the ages.
>
> On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 7:18:14 AM UTC-4 Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
>> It is time to buy a small enclosed cargo trailer! 
>>
>> :) 
>>
>>
>> For the saddles double plastic bag them, tape the bottom, and then put on 
>> a saddle cover so the bags don't shred in the wind. They'll stay dry that 
>> way. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:08:50 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Every year I point the van north and drive from Vegas to small town 
>>> North Dakota, and the lakes country of Minnesota. And every year I drag 3-4 
>>> bikes along with us on a Saris rack. I’ve gone through several different 
>>> bikes in the past several years (the kids are growing, I switched to That 
>>> Clem Life, etc) so I’ve never found an exact formula to make the bikes fit 
>>> perfectly. This year I hauled my new ln 52 cm Clementine (2019 
>>> geo), the old 1st gen 52 cm blue Clem H, #theClemRider’s  little 45 cm 2018 
>>> Clem H, and Baby Bear’s 24 inch Specialized Hot Rock.
>>>
>>> I never regret bringing my bikes, but I do admit I lament that they come 
>>> back to Vegas in poorer condition than when they left. We always get caught 
>>> in a rainstorm at some point, and usually more than once. After that I 
>>> always notice creaking where there hadn’t been, rust on the heads of bolts 
>>> or inside the braze-ons. I usually have new scuffs from the bikes knocking 
>>> together on the rack, dirt and grit where I hadn’t had it before. One year 
>>> I drove to a shooting range on 20 miles’ worth of gravel roads and the 
>>> bikes were completely trashed at a level you can’t fathom. The Betty Foy 
>>> (now sold) had a permanent ugly mark on the top tube where the arm bar of 
>>> the rack had mashed the cable into the paint.
>>>
>>> You would think I would learn and get this dialed in but I never really 
>>> do. This year was really something - when was the last time you tried to 
>>> get 3 Rivendells with Bosco bars on a rack? Boscos don’t play nicely. Three 
>>> of 4 of the bikes had baskets, and all 4 had racks. Yeah, nightmare.
>>>
>>> So, this vacation I have discovered new ways to damage my bikes. I’ll 
>>> provide the photos and explanations in the next post...
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Things I Regret: Beausage on Vacation

[Mark Roland]

All these good ideas on how to protect the bikes when being transported on 
the rack. And I guess if you are only doing it a couple times a year, it's 
okay. But otherwise, it's like packing the bike up for shipping, about my 
least favorite activity involving bicycles. You also need to figure out 
what to do with all the noodles, and put together a kit to hold tape, 
knife, zip ties, etc. to do it all again for return trips.

My experience has been that the most damage occurs with movement==often 
handlebars, brake levers, gear shifters rubbing against paint.  Make sure 
these things are out of range of painted tubes so when they inevitably 
move, they don't do damage. And definitely make sure the movement will be 
as minimal as possible. If using noodles, maybe one on the top tube of 
every other bicycle would do the trick, depending on how the bikes are held 
in--I'm not familiar with the big industrial hitch rack designs.

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 3:56:58 PM UTC-4, Scott G. wrote:
>
> Plastic bags first, then some packaging stretch film, them some clear 
> packing tape
> to secure the stretch film. Zip tie  the pipe insulation.
> I do the above routine for the seat, and shifty bits on the handlebars.
> Carry the tape & film with you on the trip, you can make repairs at rest 
> stops.
> Think like an Egyptian Embalmer, wrap for the ages.
>
> On Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 7:18:14 AM UTC-4 Julian Westerhout wrote:
>
>> It is time to buy a small enclosed cargo trailer! 
>>
>> :) 
>>
>>
>> For the saddles double plastic bag them, tape the bottom, and then put on 
>> a saddle cover so the bags don't shred in the wind. They'll stay dry that 
>> way. 
>>
>> Julian Westerhout
>> Bloomington, IL 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 4:08:50 PM UTC-5, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Every year I point the van north and drive from Vegas to small town 
>>> North Dakota, and the lakes country of Minnesota. And every year I drag 3-4 
>>> bikes along with us on a Saris rack. I’ve gone through several different 
>>> bikes in the past several years (the kids are growing, I switched to That 
>>> Clem Life, etc) so I’ve never found an exact formula to make the bikes fit 
>>> perfectly. This year I hauled my new ln 52 cm Clementine (2019 
>>> geo), the old 1st gen 52 cm blue Clem H, #theClemRider’s  little 45 cm 2018 
>>> Clem H, and Baby Bear’s 24 inch Specialized Hot Rock.
>>>
>>> I never regret bringing my bikes, but I do admit I lament that they come 
>>> back to Vegas in poorer condition than when they left. We always get caught 
>>> in a rainstorm at some point, and usually more than once. After that I 
>>> always notice creaking where there hadn’t been, rust on the heads of bolts 
>>> or inside the braze-ons. I usually have new scuffs from the bikes knocking 
>>> together on the rack, dirt and grit where I hadn’t had it before. One year 
>>> I drove to a shooting range on 20 miles’ worth of gravel roads and the 
>>> bikes were completely trashed at a level you can’t fathom. The Betty Foy 
>>> (now sold) had a permanent ugly mark on the top tube where the arm bar of 
>>> the rack had mashed the cable into the paint.
>>>
>>> You would think I would learn and get this dialed in but I never really 
>>> do. This year was really something - when was the last time you tried to 
>>> get 3 Rivendells with Bosco bars on a rack? Boscos don’t play nicely. Three 
>>> of 4 of the bikes had baskets, and all 4 had racks. Yeah, nightmare.
>>>
>>> So, this vacation I have discovered new ways to damage my bikes. I’ll 
>>> provide the photos and explanations in the next post...
>>>
>>>
>>>

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