[RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

[Jason Fuller]

I have an 80.5 pbh roughly (30" inseam pants fit me well) and I can stand 
over my 51 Sam with comfortable clearance, but no more than necessary. 




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[RBW] Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

[Michael Mann]

And if you really want to go into
the finer points of SOH, remember you probably measured your PBH barefoot. Or 
maybe you were wearing socks? How many millimeters thick were the socks. Did 
you just eat because the additional weight would compress the socks. And you 
don’t ride barefoot. Which shoes? How many millimeters thick are the soles. How 
about the other shoes? And your PBH changes from waking to bedtime...
Splitting millimeters 
Mike M

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> It's a Bombadil - 2 Updates
> RBW's Banana Sax with inside flap for security is available. - 1 Update
> FS: Swift Industries Paloma Handlebar Bag and new KLICKfix for mounting - 1 
> Update
> FS: Rene Herse Antelope Hill tires, Swift Industries Short Stack Panniers - 1 
> Update
> Looking for in house bike stand/holder - 8 Updates
> WTB 62cm QB - 2 Updates
> How do you like/ DO you like your Fatty Rumpkins? - 1 Update
> Back In The Riv Saddle With A '98 Custom Starck-Riv - 2 Updates
> Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey? - 3 Updates
> Bluelug/Nitto Losco Bar - 1 Update
> Paul's Racer Brakes FS - 1 Update
> Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55 - 1 Update
> FS: September Blow Out - 1 Update
> It's a Bombadil
> Joseph Bernard : Sep 24 04:52PM -0700 
> 
> I rode it, the verdict is in, it's a great bike! I can't give any specifics
> of ride quality because it just feels like a Riv to me: stable yet turns on
> a dime, kinds floaty and zingy. Honestly it feels like a slightly shorter
> version of my custom, which makes sense because the built-for-me frame was
> spec'd pretty close to the Bombadil's mission.
>  
> Even the riding position is nailed right off the bat, which I find
> hilarious. I plopped the bars and stem I had in there and set the saddle
> height and it's perfect!
>  
> Here's a couple of sunny pics so you can see the raw metal better. Check
> out that gusset under the downtube, I don't think any other Riv came with
> it.
>  
> Joe Bernard
>  
> Joseph Bernard : Sep 24 04:55PM -0700 
> 
> Back to top
> RBW's Banana Sax with inside flap for security is available.
> Mark Roland : Sep 24 04:38PM -0700 
> 
> I got mine a couple orders back, along with a jumbo grabby. I've been
> grabbing the grabby but just broke out the banana on a short ride earlier
> this evening. Both were purchased when I think the only color was gray. I 
> was hesistant, partly because I really liked the brown of my old jumbo 
> grabby, which someone grabbed out of my car :( a while back, partly because 
> I was worried about dirt. 
>  
> No worries, most of the dirt is on the light side anyway. I almost think I 
> may like the gray better than the brown. And the banana is great--as 
> Roberta says, a bit roomier than my XS Sackville (in brown). And the gray 
> with the brown leather trim is high zoot & goes with my dark blue & black & 
> chrome Fuji Finest. Now I just have to break it in a bit. Shouldn't be too 
> hard as with winter coming the bag with more room will get the call more
> often than not.
>  
> [image: IMG_20200924_174557294.jpg]
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> [image: IMG_20200924_174547405.jpg]
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> [image: IMG_20200924_174523714_MP.jpg]
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> On Wednesday, May 13, 2020 at 12:58:39 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
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> FS: Swift Industries Paloma Handlebar Bag and new KLICKfix for mounting
> "Jim S." : Sep 24 04:18PM -0700 
> 
> $135 shipped.
>  
> Here's a description of the product:
>  
> https://builtbyswift.com/shop/paloma-handlebar-bag/
>  
> Here are photos:
>  
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/9cCpw2PXkrdjJmTv6
>  
> Condition is good to very good. It looks like these are $175 new, and the 
> Klickfix is $27 new.
>  
> The Klickfix is included in the $135 price. I characterize the Klickfix as 
> new because I have never mounted it on a bike or even taken it out of its 
> box. Concededly, the box is a bit worn.
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> FS: Rene Herse Antelope Hill tires, Swift Industries Short Stack Panniers
> Zack : Sep 24 03:59PM -0700 
> 
> Tires gone, panniers still available. $209 shipped? 
>  
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 5:06:23 PM UTC-7 Zack wrote:
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> Looking for in house bike stand/holder
> Joel : Sep 24 10:36AM -0700 
> 
> Cross posted on Bob. 
>  
> I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very stable. 
> I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style to keep my 
> bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated. I’ve seen a few on eBay and 
> Amazon but thought it wise to check here before buying.
>  
> Thanks
> David <23writ...@gmail.com>: Sep 24 01:59PM -0400 
> 
> Hi Joel
> Are you talking a work stand or display stand. I have a couple of Nitto 
> display stands that are quite nice but designed for 120 or 126 rear hubs so a 
> bit of a wrestle to install. I also picked up a couple of Minoura stands that 
> are newer so more readily 

[RBW] FS: Swift Industries Paloma Handlebar Bag and new KLICKfix for mounting

[Jim S.]

$135 shipped.

Here's a description of the product:

https://builtbyswift.com/shop/paloma-handlebar-bag/

Here are photos:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/9cCpw2PXkrdjJmTv6

Condition is good to very good. It looks like these are $175 new, and the 
Klickfix is $27 new.

The Klickfix is included in the $135 price.  I characterize the Klickfix as 
new because I have never mounted it on a bike or even taken it out of its 
box. Concededly, the box is a bit worn.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Rene Herse Antelope Hill tires, Swift Industries Short Stack Panniers

[Zack]

Tires gone, panniers still available. $209 shipped? 

On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 5:06:23 PM UTC-7 Zack wrote:

> Ok, tires are yours Andrew! My paypal is zac...@gmail.com. If you could 
> include a little extra to cover fees, i'd greatly appreciate it! 
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:04 PM Andrew Letton  wrote:
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>> Hi Zach
>> I'll buy the tires!
>> cheers,
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Thursday, September 24, 2020, 10:00:56 AM GMT+10, Zack <
>> zac...@gmail.com> wrote: 
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>> Selling a couple things that have just been sitting around not getting 
>> any use.
>>
>> 1. Rene Herse Antelope Hill ExtraLight Tan sidewall tires. Still in 
>> packaging. *$69 shipped. *
>> 2. Swift Industries Short Stack Panniers. These retailed for $260, only 
>> super light use. Lots and lots of life left. *$219 shipped. *
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Re: [RBW] Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[Joel Stern]

Thanks James, I’ll look.

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 2:33 PM James Valiensi  wrote:

> Feedback sports has nice floor stands for storage. I use them.
>
> On Sep 24, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Joel Stern  wrote:
>
> David, not a work stand, not yet anyway. I want the bikes to be secure in
> my sunroom which is where I leave them during cycling season but the stands
> I have now are not at all secure, either too loose or too tight, I can
> adjust but they seem to not be good for either 42mm or 48mm tires. These
> use the front tire.
>
> Joel
>
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>
>> Hi Joel
>> Are you talking a work stand or display stand. I have a couple of Nitto
>> display stands that are quite nice but designed for 120 or 126 rear hubs so
>> a bit of a wrestle to install. I also picked up a couple of Minoura stands
>> that are newer so more readily fit modern bikes. More convenient but
>> certainly a trade off on aesthetics.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Joel  wrote:
>>
>> Cross posted on Bob.
>>
>> I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very
>> stable.  I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style to
>> keep my bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on eBay
>> and Amazon but thought it wise to check here before buying.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: [RBW] Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[The Snag]

Somafab has some nice looking stands by Kogu that are currently on sale
https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/category/tools-maintenance-racks-store-fixture-992

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 11:33:21 AM UTC-7 James Valiensi wrote:

> Feedback sports has nice floor stands for storage. I use them.
>
> On Sep 24, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Joel Stern  wrote:
>
> David, not a work stand, not yet anyway. I want the bikes to be secure in 
> my sunroom which is where I leave them during cycling season but the stands 
> I have now are not at all secure, either too loose or too tight, I can 
> adjust but they seem to not be good for either 42mm or 48mm tires. These 
> use the front tire. 
>
> Joel
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM David <23wr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Joel
>> Are you talking a work stand or display stand. I have a couple of Nitto 
>> display stands that are quite nice but designed for 120 or 126 rear hubs so 
>> a bit of a wrestle to install. I also picked up a couple of Minoura stands 
>> that are newer so more readily fit modern bikes. More convenient but 
>> certainly a trade off on aesthetics. 
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Joel  wrote:
>>
>> Cross posted on Bob.  
>>
>> I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very 
>> stable.  I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style to 
>> keep my bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on eBay 
>> and Amazon but thought it wise to check here before buying.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB 62cm QB

[jamison brosseau]

email sent

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 1:21:51 PM UTC-4 Dave Grossman wrote:

> I will make a final appeal for a 62cm QB before I go and grab a BMC 
> Monster Cross canti. Matt is riding my old 58, which was way too small. I 
> had what I thought was 62cm last winter but that ended up being a 64cm and 
> Reid ended up with it after I bought it. Anyhow, if anyone has one they are 
> looking to move, let me know.  Otherwise, I am close to giving up to 
> finding one of these until Riv reissues the single speed!  

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Re: [RBW] Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[James Valiensi]

Feedback sports has nice floor stands for storage. I use them.

> On Sep 24, 2020, at 11:19 AM, Joel Stern  wrote:
> 
> David, not a work stand, not yet anyway. I want the bikes to be secure in my 
> sunroom which is where I leave them during cycling season but the stands I 
> have now are not at all secure, either too loose or too tight, I can adjust 
> but they seem to not be good for either 42mm or 48mm tires. These use the 
> front tire. 
> 
> Joel
> 
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM David <23writ...@gmail.com 
> > wrote:
> Hi Joel
> Are you talking a work stand or display stand. I have a couple of Nitto 
> display stands that are quite nice but designed for 120 or 126 rear hubs so a 
> bit of a wrestle to install. I also picked up a couple of Minoura stands that 
> are newer so more readily fit modern bikes. More convenient but certainly a 
> trade off on aesthetics. 
> 
> David
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Joel > > wrote:
>> 
>> Cross posted on Bob.  
>> 
>> I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very stable.  
>> I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style to keep my 
>> bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on eBay and Amazon 
>> but thought it wise to check here before buying.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Ed, I was thinking of something like this or a floor stand. I will
take a look in a bit. I appreciate your input.

Joel

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 2:15 PM Ed Carolipio  wrote:

> I have the Feedback Velo Cache configured to carry 4 bikes:
> https://www.feedbacksports.com/product/velo-cache-black/
>
> Good points:
>
>- Free standing so no need to attach to anything, and from my
>experience very stable
>- Lightweight
>- Fit and finish are excellent
>- Rubber "grips" are sturdy and protect the paint finish on the top
>tube
>
> Downsides:
>
>- Pricey
>- (Potential) Unknown how well it'll work with double top tube Rivs
>- Need a top tube frame adapter for swoopy top tube frames(Clem L,
>Cheviot, Gus/Suzie)
>
>
> --Ed C.
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 10:59:50 AM UTC-7 David Hays wrote:
>
>> Hi Joel
>> Are you talking a work stand or display stand. I have a couple of Nitto
>> display stands that are quite nice but designed for 120 or 126 rear hubs so
>> a bit of a wrestle to install. I also picked up a couple of Minoura stands
>> that are newer so more readily fit modern bikes. More convenient but
>> certainly a trade off on aesthetics.
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Joel  wrote:
>>
>> Cross posted on Bob.
>>
>>
>> I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very
>> stable.  I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style to
>> keep my bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on eBay
>> and Amazon but thought it wise to check here before buying.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: [RBW] Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[Joel Stern]

David, not a work stand, not yet anyway. I want the bikes to be secure in
my sunroom which is where I leave them during cycling season but the stands
I have now are not at all secure, either too loose or too tight, I can
adjust but they seem to not be good for either 42mm or 48mm tires. These
use the front tire.

Joel

On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 1:59 PM David <23writ...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Joel
> Are you talking a work stand or display stand. I have a couple of Nitto
> display stands that are quite nice but designed for 120 or 126 rear hubs so
> a bit of a wrestle to install. I also picked up a couple of Minoura stands
> that are newer so more readily fit modern bikes. More convenient but
> certainly a trade off on aesthetics.
>
> David
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Joel  wrote:
>
> Cross posted on Bob.
>
> I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very
> stable.  I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style to
> keep my bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on eBay
> and Amazon but thought it wise to check here before buying.
>
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Re: [RBW] Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[Ed Carolipio]

I have the Feedback Velo Cache configured to carry 4 
bikes: https://www.feedbacksports.com/product/velo-cache-black/

Good points:

   - Free standing so no need to attach to anything, and from my experience 
   very stable
   - Lightweight
   - Fit and finish are excellent
   - Rubber "grips" are sturdy and protect the paint finish on the top tube

Downsides:

   - Pricey
   - (Potential) Unknown how well it'll work with double top tube Rivs
   - Need a top tube frame adapter for swoopy top tube frames(Clem L, 
   Cheviot, Gus/Suzie)


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On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 10:59:50 AM UTC-7 David Hays wrote:

> Hi Joel
> Are you talking a work stand or display stand. I have a couple of Nitto 
> display stands that are quite nice but designed for 120 or 126 rear hubs so 
> a bit of a wrestle to install. I also picked up a couple of Minoura stands 
> that are newer so more readily fit modern bikes. More convenient but 
> certainly a trade off on aesthetics. 
>
> David
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Joel  wrote:
>
> Cross posted on Bob.  
>
>
> I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very stable. 
>  I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style to keep my 
> bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on eBay and 
> Amazon but thought it wise to check here before buying.
>
> Thanks
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[RBW] Re: Back In The Riv Saddle With A '98 Custom Starck-Riv

[Paul Brodek]

Actually, come to think of it, if it was mine there's always the 
possibility there was an intermediary caretaker between me and Trevor.

I'm pretty sure the color was considered a Burnt Orange. Frame size was 
58.5cm square c-c, def a bit lower than I like. There were some paint flaws 
down near the seat tube bottle bosses that were sanded away, visible in the 
naked frame photos.

I have nothing against simplicity, but I think I like the curlier head lugs 
on the '95 Road better than the simpler lines on the Starck.

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 2:04:21 PM UTC-4, Paul Brodek wrote:
>
> Thanks for linking it, Peter. If Trevor has it now, it went from Peter to 
> me to Trevor.
>
> Peter asked me earlier offlist if the frame had been a little small for 
> me, and looking at my notes on the frame dims I said probably not. But now 
> looking at the built pix on flickr, yeah, definitely closer to "a little 
> too little" for me.
>
> All I've managed with the new Starck Riv so far is a coupla 
> round-the-block sweeps, which it handled nicely. I detected slight notes of 
> lemongrass, with a subtle smoky finish.
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 1:57:12 PM UTC-4, Peter Bridge wrote:
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 at 9:12:30 AM UTC-7 foolis...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Paul I might have your Riv. What color was it? Size?
>>
>>
>> From my vague memory, kinda caramel maybe?  Maybe with an area that had 
>> been sanded on the down tube?  Can't remember the color of the head tube.  
>> Unless PB2 repainted it.
>>
>> Oh here we go, it's on Paul's flickr: 
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/albums/72157637897698005 
>>
>> ~pb1   
>>
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[RBW] Re: Back In The Riv Saddle With A '98 Custom Starck-Riv

[Paul Brodek]

Thanks for linking it, Peter. If Trevor has it now, it went from Peter to 
me to Trevor.

Peter asked me earlier offlist if the frame had been a little small for me, 
and looking at my notes on the frame dims I said probably not. But now 
looking at the built pix on flickr, yeah, definitely closer to "a little 
too little" for me.

All I've managed with the new Starck Riv so far is a coupla round-the-block 
sweeps, which it handled nicely. I detected slight notes of lemongrass, 
with a subtle smoky finish.

Paul Brodek
Hillsdale, NJ USA

On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 1:57:12 PM UTC-4, Peter Bridge wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 at 9:12:30 AM UTC-7 foolis...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Paul I might have your Riv. What color was it? Size?
>
>
> From my vague memory, kinda caramel maybe?  Maybe with an area that had 
> been sanded on the down tube?  Can't remember the color of the head tube.  
> Unless PB2 repainted it.
>
> Oh here we go, it's on Paul's flickr: 
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/26383479@N04/albums/72157637897698005 
>
> ~pb1   
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Re: [RBW] Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[David]

Hi Joel
Are you talking a work stand or display stand. I have a couple of Nitto display 
stands that are quite nice but designed for 120 or 126 rear hubs so a bit of a 
wrestle to install. I also picked up a couple of Minoura stands that are newer 
so more readily fit modern bikes. More convenient but certainly a trade off on 
aesthetics. 

David

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 24, 2020, at 1:36 PM, Joel  wrote:
> 
> Cross posted on Bob.  
> 
> I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very stable.  
> I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style to keep my 
> bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on eBay and Amazon 
> but thought it wise to check here before buying.
> 
> Thanks
> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

[Ben Mihovk]

Doug,
Yes, I've seen the pack job! I've watched the video of Mark assembling a 
Homer maybe fifteen times now (love the video and the music).

Good advice on riding for a while before tinkering. I'll definitely go that 
way.

Ben

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 12:28:45 PM UTC-5 dougP wrote:

> Ben:
>
> You've probably seen photos on this forum of the epic packing job that 
> Rivendell does.  When I got my Atlantis, I was able to ride it within an 
> hour of delivery, and I think the saddle & the pedals were the only things 
> I had to install.  Like you, I went with their suggestion on parts & some 
> of the originals are still on there.  Ride it out of the box, then start 
> tinkering.  I think it took me a couple of weeks to find something to fuss 
> with.  
>
> dougP
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 7:04:01 AM UTC-7, Ben Mihovk wrote:
>>
>> Got shipping notification for my Atlantis yesterday! I'm beyond excited. 
>>
>> I'll post a pic when it gets here...I'd do a full list of components now, 
>> but honestly I went with what Vince picked out and my only input was that I 
>> didn't need a saddle, I wanted the front of the Choco bar taped up, and 
>> that I wanted inboard thumb shifters. 
>>
>> Should be ready to pick up at UPS Customer Center on Tuesday after work. 
>> Cooler weather coming to Omaha should make for a lovely commute next 
>> Wednesday morning! 
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 8:58:59 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Either that or it shows that I'm dyslexic. I think I am a bit dyslexic: 
>>> do very well with words and concepts, but visual images and arrangements 
>>> confuse me.
>>>
>>> Patrick "which left, the right left or the left left?" Moore, who had to 
>>> transcribe Descarte's *Geometry* and Newton's *Principia* into words 
>>> before he could assimilate algebra and calculus.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:51 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>>
 Patrick, just the fact you had to correct the typo of which Dura Ace RD 
 you were referring to, lest you suffer the embarrassment of referencing a 
 non-existent variant, illustrates your point very well I think.   :D :D ;) 
 ;) 





 On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 6:37 PM Patrick Moore  
 wrote:

> "7401" and not "7410."
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:34 PM Patrick Moore  
> wrote:
>
>> ...The 7410 shifts to the 42/25 *sometimes* and seems to work if you 
>> don't screw down the B screw. But on the 7401 there *is* no B screw. 
>> So I filed the stop on the Paragon hanger, and tomorrow will consider 
>> grinding off a wee bit of the integrated, non-adjustable "B stop" tab.
>>
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[RBW] Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[Joel]

Cross posted on Bob.  

I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very stable. 
 I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style to keep my 
bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on eBay and 
Amazon but thought it wise to check here before buying.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

[dougP]

Ben:

You've probably seen photos on this forum of the epic packing job that 
Rivendell does.  When I got my Atlantis, I was able to ride it within an 
hour of delivery, and I think the saddle & the pedals were the only things 
I had to install.  Like you, I went with their suggestion on parts & some 
of the originals are still on there.  Ride it out of the box, then start 
tinkering.  I think it took me a couple of weeks to find something to fuss 
with.  

dougP

On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 7:04:01 AM UTC-7, Ben Mihovk wrote:
>
> Got shipping notification for my Atlantis yesterday! I'm beyond excited. 
>
> I'll post a pic when it gets here...I'd do a full list of components now, 
> but honestly I went with what Vince picked out and my only input was that I 
> didn't need a saddle, I wanted the front of the Choco bar taped up, and 
> that I wanted inboard thumb shifters. 
>
> Should be ready to pick up at UPS Customer Center on Tuesday after work. 
> Cooler weather coming to Omaha should make for a lovely commute next 
> Wednesday morning! 
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 8:58:59 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Either that or it shows that I'm dyslexic. I think I am a bit dyslexic: 
>> do very well with words and concepts, but visual images and arrangements 
>> confuse me.
>>
>> Patrick "which left, the right left or the left left?" Moore, who had to 
>> transcribe Descarte's *Geometry* and Newton's *Principia* into words 
>> before he could assimilate algebra and calculus.
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:51 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick, just the fact you had to correct the typo of which Dura Ace RD 
>>> you were referring to, lest you suffer the embarrassment of referencing a 
>>> non-existent variant, illustrates your point very well I think.   :D :D ;) 
>>> ;) 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 6:37 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 "7401" and not "7410."

 On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:34 PM Patrick Moore  
 wrote:

> ...The 7410 shifts to the 42/25 *sometimes* and seems to work if you 
> don't screw down the B screw. But on the 7401 there *is* no B screw. 
> So I filed the stop on the Paragon hanger, and tomorrow will consider 
> grinding off a wee bit of the integrated, non-adjustable "B stop" tab.
>
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[RBW] WTB 62cm QB

[Dave Grossman]

I will make a final appeal for a 62cm QB before I go and grab a BMC Monster 
Cross canti. Matt is riding my old 58, which was way too small. I had what 
I thought was 62cm last winter but that ended up being a 64cm and Reid 
ended up with it after I bought it. Anyhow, if anyone has one they are 
looking to move, let me know.  Otherwise, I am close to giving up to 
finding one of these until Riv reissues the single speed!  

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[RBW] Re: Bluelug/Nitto Losco Bar

[Jason Fuller]

My comfortable height for "upright" bars is level with, to maybe 1" above 
my saddle height, so Loscos make sense to me :D 

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[RBW] Re: Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

[aeroperf]

This should be a fun thread.

My 2015 Sam 55 Cm has a measured SOH of 830mm with 700x42 Conti SpeedRide 
tires, unloaded.
That is not the max tire.  It came from Riv with Conti TourRide 700x48 
tires, and if I had not wanted fenders, I could have probably fit something 
even bigger.

It has a Rivendell listed SOH of 833mm.  Tire not listed, but max tire size 
listed at 700x44.
It has a Bikeinsights.com computed SOH of 833mm with 700x46 tires listed.

I also have a Riv geometry chart that includes a 56 cm Sam with SOH listed 
at 834mm for a max tire of 700x45.

Since I rotate my tires annually, and then reset my odometer over a 
measured course, I can tell you that two supposedly identical tires of the 
same brand/model can have a difference in height of 5.2mm (At least.  
That’s just what I have had to reset the odometer for).  Figure that half 
of that could make its way into SOH.
And that is at a constant tire pressure of 70 psi.  When I went to 50 psi 
for ride quality, I had to reset the odometer again, though not by nearly 
as much.

So for my Sam, actual standover height is not just a function of frame 
geometry but also tire size, tire brand, tire pressure and random 
manufacturing tolerances.  I just use 830 mm.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Do you leave it alone...or must you monkey?

[Ben Mihovk]

Got shipping notification for my Atlantis yesterday! I'm beyond excited. 

I'll post a pic when it gets here...I'd do a full list of components now, 
but honestly I went with what Vince picked out and my only input was that I 
didn't need a saddle, I wanted the front of the Choco bar taped up, and 
that I wanted inboard thumb shifters. 

Should be ready to pick up at UPS Customer Center on Tuesday after work. 
Cooler weather coming to Omaha should make for a lovely commute next 
Wednesday morning! 


On Wednesday, September 16, 2020 at 8:58:59 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Either that or it shows that I'm dyslexic. I think I am a bit dyslexic: do 
> very well with words and concepts, but visual images and arrangements 
> confuse me.
>
> Patrick "which left, the right left or the left left?" Moore, who had to 
> transcribe Descarte's *Geometry* and Newton's *Principia* into words 
> before he could assimilate algebra and calculus.
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:51 PM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
>> Patrick, just the fact you had to correct the typo of which Dura Ace RD 
>> you were referring to, lest you suffer the embarrassment of referencing a 
>> non-existent variant, illustrates your point very well I think.   :D :D ;) 
>> ;) 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 6:37 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> "7401" and not "7410."
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2020 at 7:34 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>>
 ...The 7410 shifts to the 42/25 *sometimes* and seems to work if you 
 don't screw down the B screw. But on the 7401 there *is* no B screw. 
 So I filed the stop on the Paragon hanger, and tomorrow will consider 
 grinding off a wee bit of the integrated, non-adjustable "B stop" tab.

>>> ---
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[RBW] Re: FS: September Blow Out

[Pat Smith]

Hey Corwin I sent payment on the Nitto stems not realizing they were 26.0 
clamp. I'd like to actually pass on these if it's not too late.

Thanks
Pat

On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 5:35:14 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:

> PM sent on shifters.  
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 3:31:27 AM UTC-4, Corwin wrote:
>>
>> Hi -
>>
>> In spite of the virus, the fires, etc., 2020 has been really good for me. 
>> I seem to accumulate lots of parts. I have no room for them. So I want to 
>> send them to you! All prices below include shipping.
>>
>> 1) Silver friction levers mated to Shimano bar end pods. These are in 
>> great shape and have lots of miles left in them. These are the original 
>> Silver shifters - not the second generation recently released. $10 shipped.
>>
>> 2) Nitto Campee Rack. Not sure which rack this is - but it came off the 
>> front of my son's SimpleOne. $10 shipped.
>>
>> 3) MKS Track Pedals. Great, inexpensive, durable pedals. Also in great 
>> shape. $15 shipped.
>>
>> 4) Vittoria 700c x 25/32mm tubes. $5 shipped for both.
>>
>> 5) Shimano Flat Bar Brake Levers. In great shape. $10 shipped.
>>
>> 6) Park Spanners. 13, 14 and 15mm. One each. $5 shipped for all three.
>>
>> 7) Lumotec IQ Headlight. Plenty of wire here. Was mounted to the Nitto 
>> rack above. Most of the wire ran to the tail light.
>>
>> 8) Velocity Quick Release Skewer. Came on my Hubbuhubbuh. I think the OLD 
>> is 140mm.
>>
>> 9) Tail Light. This went with the Lumotec IQ above. $2 shipped.
>>
>> 10) Third Hand Tool. A piece of ancient history. I used to clamp my 
>> brakes together with this thing to get cable slack, etc. $2 shipped.
>>
>> 11) Couple of sidepull brakes. A Shimano 600 "standard" reach, and a 
>> short reach brake. Not sure where these came from. Throwing in the lever in 
>> the picture as well $5 shipped for both.
>>
>> 12) Skewers from Schmidt Dynohubs. These take and allen wrench. $2 
>> shipped for both.
>>
>> 13) Riese and Müller Handlebar Mount for Dynamo Light. In great shape. 
>> Used sparingly. $2 shipped.
>>
>> 14) Ritchey 10 and 12cm Threadless Stems. These have two-bolt faceplates. 
>> Not sure about the rise. $10 shipped each.
>>
>> 15) Nitto UI-5GX Threadless Stems. These are some of the most elegant 
>> stems anywhere. Four bolt faceplates. $15 shipped each.
>>
>> 16) 18 tooth cog for your fixed gear. Not much wear on this one. Came off 
>> my son's fixed gear before he rode it. $2 shipped.
>>
>> 17) Nitto R Bottle Cages. These are the light ones. Very sleek and 
>> elegant. The solid ones - not the hollow ones. $20 shipped each.
>>
>> 18) Giant Threadless Stem. Not as pretty as the others - but it's a long 
>> one: 13cm. Two bolt faceplate. $5 shipped.
>>
>> Photos here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/yQCgqV1kruueocWP8
>>
>> If any of you are in the SF Bay Area and want to come to my house in 
>> Richmond, California to pick up one or more items, I will happily give them 
>> to you gratis for saving me the time, money and hassle of shipping them.
>>
>> And if you want to send me money via Paypal - please use czech "at" 
>> sonic.net.
>>
>> Namaste,
>>
>>
>> Corwin
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] It's a Bombadil

[Andrew Letton]

 Thanks Roberta!Yes, Zane enjoyed (and continues to enjoy) riding on the bike 
with me since that very first ride. Happy Papa!That cockpit is the 58cm Bosco 
bar on a 12cm Nitto lugged stem.cheers,Andrew
On Thursday, September 24, 2020, 09:21:28 PM GMT+10, Roberta 
 wrote:  
 
 Andrew,

Zane looked like he’s having a great time. He’s adorable!  What handlebars are 
on this bike?  

Joe,

I’m looking forward to to hearing of your ride. 

Roberta

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[RBW] Sam Standover Hieghts for 51 & 55

[RDS]

For those who own a 51 or 55 Sam, what is the standover height for each 
size?  List tire size used for this measurement and note if it is the max 
tire size.  In general, how much could the standover height change based on 
tire size?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bluelug/Nitto Losco Bar

[Paul Budnitz]

Hi Joe!!

Was thinking about your note.

You are right the Losco bars make no sense except they look awesome.

But for me making your bicycle look the way you want it to (and perform just 
right too) can be half the fun.

The tension between trying to make a bike both ride and look great is part of 
the challenge, and why I love bikes so much.

Bicycles are one of the last things left on earth you can build up out of 
individual components made, all by different people, and make something truly 
individual and your own.

☆ Paul
On Sep 23, 2020, 11:12 PM -0400, Joe Bernard , wrote:
> Btw aside from looking cool Loscos don't make a lick of sense. I have them on 
> a really tall stem which...why not just get Boscos?? 
> > On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 5:49:37 PM UTC-7 Joe Bernard wrote:
> > > Hi Roberta and Kim the Flowerfang!
> > >
> > > Yeah I've been draggin` hard the last 6 weeks or so. First the smoke then 
> > > I tweaked my back lifting this way when I should have lifted that 
> > > way..it’s been one damn thing after another this year! But I'm on the 
> > > mend and my oomph should be back soon. I gotta finish this bike!
> > >
> > > > On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 2:23:07 PM UTC-7 Roberta wrote:
> > > > > Garth and Joe,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for confirming that the rise is less than the Albatross.  Not 
> > > > > exactly what I wanted to hear. But perhaps the bike  has a taller 
> > > > > headtube that would make up for this.  Or, get one of those 
> > > > > super-duper tall stem that BBDD loves on her Clem L.  But, I 
> > > > > understand they are sold out everywhere.
> > > > >
> > > > > Joe, are you OK?  This doesn't sound like you:  ..."Bombadil which 
> > > > > will apparently never be completed..my bike building skills have lost 
> > > > > their oomph!"  Perhaps it's just the bad air?
> > > > >
> > > > > Roberta
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 6:36:12 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Roberta, from what can tell in the write up and photos between 
> > > > > > > Riv and BL websites, it is indeed a Bosco bar shape but with much 
> > > > > > > less rise. Judging from the side views it's less rise than an 
> > > > > > > Alba, about the same rise as a Billie, give or take 5mm. Whatever 
> > > > > > > you can fit onto a Bosco bar would apply to the Losco.  If 
> > > > > > > whatbars.com showed them they ought to appear the same shape as 
> > > > > > > the images are only from above.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 3:47:50 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Does anyone have rise information, especially on how it 
> > > > > > > > compares to the Albatross?    These bars aren't published on 
> > > > > > > > the excellent site whatbars.com .  Rise for Bosco is 100, for 
> > > > > > > > the Albas at 50 on the site.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I'm thinking about these for my Platypus.  These look like 
> > > > > > > > there's more room for bell, shifter, brakes in front of grips 
> > > > > > > > than the Albas.  It might even be better because it comes back 
> > > > > > > > a little more and I'm expecting the Platypus to be long in the 
> > > > > > > > middle.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > Roberta
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
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Re: [RBW] It's a Bombadil

[Roberta]

Andrew,

Zane looked like he’s having a great time. He’s adorable!  What handlebars are 
on this bike?  

Joe,

I’m looking forward to to hearing of your ride. 

Roberta

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