Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus: First Look

[Collin A]

I vote "pomegranate" as the color

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 4:54:37 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Is it red? It can’t be red! The Platypus doesn’t come in red! You guys are 
> funny.
>
> But, since there seems to be question about what color my bike actually 
> is, well, here...
>
> Must be a trick of the light,
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 29, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roland  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Wow. That is gorgeous. Is it red? If that is the frame color, your 
> wheelset will look killer.I would send you my raspberry Brooks, but my 
> Susie arrived today and it's slated for that bike. Which means I must stop 
> procrastinating and build the dang wheels.
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 6:46 :26 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you 
>> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If 
>> not, stop right here
>>
>> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new 
>> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will - 
>> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which 
>> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent 
>> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>>
>> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo 
>> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this 
>> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes 
>> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his 
>> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s 
>> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo, 
>> not the bike. 
>>
>> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it, 
>> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous 
>> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose 
>> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the 
>> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of 
>> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever 
>> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell 
>> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I 
>> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have 
>> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the 
>> parts this week.
>>
>> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone 
>> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made 
>> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a 
>> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of 
>> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a 
>> “joy-bringer.”
>>
>> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes 
>> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated 
>> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
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[RBW] WTB Shimano Dura Ace 7900 10sp DT shifters

[Andrew Turner]

I know, I know, friction is way better but I'd still be interested in 
purchasing a set of index 10 speed Dura Ace downtube shifters if anyone's 
holding. 

andyreedturner at gmail dot com 

Cheers! 
Andrew

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Onyx Hubs

[Philip Williamson]

Funny, I just ordered a 135 QR Vesper for rim brakes. The Vesper is the 
only 135 rim brake option, according to the person I talked to on the 
phone. That option is not on their website, which stumped me for years. I 
just told them today, "Take it off the secret menu and put it on the 
website, so Rivendell riders can buy them." 

I don't imagine the Vesper gives anything up in durability, since Peter 
Verdone buys them for his mountain bikes, and if he broke one the whole 
world would know. I like the looks of the classic ones a little more, but 
the Vesper isn't any weirder looking than a SON Wide Body. I chose Onyx 
over any other hub, because I want the quiet running and the high 
engagement. I rode one a little bit, and liked it a lot. It's unique. 

Philip
Santa Rosa, CA 


On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 9:07:14 AM UTC-7 Elijah Bernstein-Cooper 
wrote:

> I would like to build a rear wheel for my 2020 Atlantis with an Onyx hub. 
> I am debating between their newer Vesper model and older model. My priority 
> is a durability over weight, within reason.
>
> Onyx has a new model out, Vesper, which is apparently lighter than their 
> older model by 200g. However I don't mind a little extra weight and I'd 
> prefer to have a more sturdy hub. 
>
> Does anyone have insight into if the reduced weight in the newer Vesper 
> model sacrificed any durability?
>
> Vesper: 
> https://onyxrp.com/store/mtb-hubs/onyx-vesper-mtb-cl-hg-11spd-135-qr-rear-hub/
> Older model: 
> https://onyxrp.com/store/mtb-hubs/mtb-cl-hg-qr/mtb-cl-hg-135-qr/
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus: First Look

[Leah Peterson]

Well, this should ease the burden on my Clementine a bit. I have 81 miles left 
until I reach my 2,020 mile goal for 2020 - all done on that Clementine. And 
did you see the weight thread about the Clem L? Whew.

Welcome, Platypus!

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> On Sep 29, 2020, at 7:38 PM, dougP  wrote:
> 
> 
> "No, the bike will be ridden half to death."
> 
> You've got some riding to do then.  So far, the half-life of a Rivendell is 
> still an open question.  If you keep buying new ones, you'll never know.  
> Steel is real.
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 3:46:26 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Hi Friends,
>> 
>> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you qualify 
>> a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If not, stop 
>> right here
>> 
>> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new 
>> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will - who 
>> has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which became 
>> the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent me an 
>> email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>> 
>> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo is 
>> so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this 
>> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes 
>> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his 
>> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s 
>> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo, 
>> not the bike. 
>> 
>> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it, but 
>> I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous 
>> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose 
>> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the 
>> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of 
>> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever 
>> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell 
>> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I 
>> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have 
>> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the 
>> parts this week.
>> 
>> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone 
>> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made 
>> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a 
>> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of 
>> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a 
>> “joy-bringer.”
>> 
>> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes your 
>> excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated Rivendell 
>> mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>> 
>> Leah
>> 
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Platypus: First Look

[dougP]

"No, the bike will be ridden half to death."

You've got some riding to do then.  So far, the half-life of a Rivendell is 
still an open question.  If you keep buying new ones, you'll never know.  
Steel is real.

dougP

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 3:46:26 PM UTC-7, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Hi Friends,
>
> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you 
> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If 
> not, stop right here
>
> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new 
> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will - 
> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which 
> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent 
> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>
> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo 
> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this 
> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes 
> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his 
> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s 
> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo, 
> not the bike. 
>
> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it, 
> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous 
> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose 
> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the 
> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of 
> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever 
> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell 
> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I 
> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have 
> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the 
> parts this week.
>
> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone 
> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made 
> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a 
> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of 
> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a 
> “joy-bringer.”
>
> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes 
> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated 
> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>
> Leah
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus: First Look

[Mark Roland]

Wow, congratulations! A pre-production Platypus in a custom color!! 
Beautiful. And I'm glad to hear it, as I was tempted just by the luscious 
color alone. This will be one fabulous bicycle. 

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 9:40:30 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> No, this bike is mine. The production colors will be new colors - I bet 
> you’ll more know on Thursday.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 29, 2020, at 6:39 PM, Mark Roland  > wrote:
>
> 
> Wow. That will be a production color?!  You must know somebody.
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 7:54:37 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>>
>> Is it red? It can’t be red! The Platypus doesn’t come in red! You guys 
>> are funny.
>>
>> But, since there seems to be question about what color my bike actually 
>> is, well, here...
>>
>> Must be a trick of the light,
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Sep 29, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roland  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Wow. That is gorgeous. Is it red? If that is the frame color, your 
>> wheelset will look killer.I would send you my raspberry Brooks, but my 
>> Susie arrived today and it's slated for that bike. Which means I must stop 
>> procrastinating and build the dang wheels.
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 6:46 :26 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Friends,
>>>
>>> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you 
>>> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If 
>>> not, stop right here
>>>
>>> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new 
>>> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will - 
>>> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which 
>>> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent 
>>> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>>>
>>> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this 
>>> photo is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this 
>>> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes 
>>> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his 
>>> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s 
>>> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo, 
>>> not the bike. 
>>>
>>> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it, 
>>> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous 
>>> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose 
>>> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the 
>>> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of 
>>> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever 
>>> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell 
>>> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I 
>>> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have 
>>> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the 
>>> parts this week.
>>>
>>> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone 
>>> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made 
>>> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a 
>>> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of 
>>> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a 
>>> “joy-bringer.”
>>>
>>> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes 
>>> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated 
>>> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Roberta]

Too funny!. “ Miss Leah, it’s a mixte!”  

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 9:42:17 PM UTC-4, Flowerfang wrote:
>
> That’s is so great!  He looks like a proud obstetrician in that picture. 
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:46 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you 
>> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If 
>> not, stop right here
>>
>> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new 
>> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will - 
>> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which 
>> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent 
>> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>>
>> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo 
>> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this 
>> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes 
>> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his 
>> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s 
>> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo, 
>> not the bike. 
>>
>> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it, 
>> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous 
>> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose 
>> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the 
>> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of 
>> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever 
>> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell 
>> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I 
>> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have 
>> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the 
>> parts this week.
>>
>> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone 
>> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made 
>> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a 
>> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of 
>> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a 
>> “joy-bringer.”
>>
>> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes 
>> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated 
>> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[kim young]

That’s is so great!  He looks like a proud obstetrician in that picture.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:46 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you
> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If
> not, stop right here
>
> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new
> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will -
> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which
> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent
> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>
> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo
> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this
> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes
> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his
> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s
> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo,
> not the bike.
>
> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it,
> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous
> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose
> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the
> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of
> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever
> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell
> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I
> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have
> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the
> parts this week.
>
> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone
> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made
> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a
> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of
> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a
> “joy-bringer.”
>
> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes
> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated
> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus: First Look

[Leah Peterson]

No, this bike is mine. The production colors will be new colors - I bet you’ll 
more know on Thursday.

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 29, 2020, at 6:39 PM, Mark Roland  wrote:
> 
> 
> Wow. That will be a production color?!  You must know somebody.
> 
>> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 7:54:37 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> Is it red? It can’t be red! The Platypus doesn’t come in red! You guys are 
>> funny.
>> 
>> But, since there seems to be question about what color my bike actually is, 
>> well, here...
>> 
>> Must be a trick of the light,
>> Leah
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On Sep 29, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roland  wrote:
 
>>> 
>>> Wow. That is gorgeous. Is it red? If that is the frame color, your wheelset 
>>> will look killer.I would send you my raspberry Brooks, but my Susie arrived 
>>> today and it's slated for that bike. Which means I must stop 
>>> procrastinating and build the dang wheels.
>>> 
 On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 6:46 :26 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:
 Hi Friends,
 
 It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you 
 qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If 
 not, stop right here
 
 Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new 
 Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will - 
 who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which 
 became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent 
 me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
 
 It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo 
 is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this 
 long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his 
 eyes are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in 
 his outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. 
 It’s too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the 
 photo, not the bike. 
 
 No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it, 
 but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous 
 colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose 
 are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the 
 builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of 
 the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever 
 chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell 
 was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I 
 just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to 
 have an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about 
 the parts this week.
 
 The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone 
 themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made 
 better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a 
 contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of 
 function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a 
 “joy-bringer.”
 
 I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes 
 your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated 
 Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
 
 Leah
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus: First Look

[Mark Roland]

Wow. That will be a production color?!  You must know somebody.

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 7:54:37 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Is it red? It can’t be red! The Platypus doesn’t come in red! You guys are 
> funny.
>
> But, since there seems to be question about what color my bike actually 
> is, well, here...
>
> Must be a trick of the light,
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 29, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roland  > wrote:
>
> 
> Wow. That is gorgeous. Is it red? If that is the frame color, your 
> wheelset will look killer.I would send you my raspberry Brooks, but my 
> Susie arrived today and it's slated for that bike. Which means I must stop 
> procrastinating and build the dang wheels.
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 6:46 :26 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you 
>> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If 
>> not, stop right here
>>
>> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new 
>> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will - 
>> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which 
>> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent 
>> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>>
>> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo 
>> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this 
>> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes 
>> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his 
>> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s 
>> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo, 
>> not the bike. 
>>
>> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it, 
>> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous 
>> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose 
>> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the 
>> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of 
>> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever 
>> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell 
>> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I 
>> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have 
>> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the 
>> parts this week.
>>
>> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone 
>> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made 
>> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a 
>> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of 
>> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a 
>> “joy-bringer.”
>>
>> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes 
>> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated 
>> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>>
>> Leah
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus: First Look

[Joel S]

It looks like a cross between candy apple red and light fuschia, I like it. 
 

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 7:54:37 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Is it red? It can’t be red! The Platypus doesn’t come in red! You guys are 
> funny.
>
> But, since there seems to be question about what color my bike actually 
> is, well, here...
>
> Must be a trick of the light,
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 29, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roland  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Wow. That is gorgeous. Is it red? If that is the frame color, your 
> wheelset will look killer.I would send you my raspberry Brooks, but my 
> Susie arrived today and it's slated for that bike. Which means I must stop 
> procrastinating and build the dang wheels.
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 6:46 :26 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you 
>> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If 
>> not, stop right here
>>
>> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new 
>> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will - 
>> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which 
>> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent 
>> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>>
>> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo 
>> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this 
>> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes 
>> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his 
>> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s 
>> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo, 
>> not the bike. 
>>
>> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it, 
>> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous 
>> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose 
>> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the 
>> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of 
>> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever 
>> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell 
>> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I 
>> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have 
>> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the 
>> parts this week.
>>
>> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone 
>> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made 
>> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a 
>> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of 
>> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a 
>> “joy-bringer.”
>>
>> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes 
>> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated 
>> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus: First Look

[Roberta]

That color is the most wonderful color I've seen since your 
water/aqua/silvery/blue Clementine bike color, which is now the former best 
color ever for a bike color.  And, with rose colored rims--ooh, la, la 
  And, the graceful lines--so sophisticated yet soft looking.  If at least 
one of the other colors is half as nice as the "it can't be red" color, I 
will be first in line for it.  

Roberta

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 7:54:37 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Is it red? It can’t be red! The Platypus doesn’t come in red! You guys are 
> funny.
>
> But, since there seems to be question about what color my bike actually 
> is, well, here...
>
> Must be a trick of the light,
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 29, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Mark Roland  > wrote:
>
> 
> Wow. That is gorgeous. Is it red? If that is the frame color, your 
> wheelset will look killer.I would send you my raspberry Brooks, but my 
> Susie arrived today and it's slated for that bike. Which means I must stop 
> procrastinating and build the dang wheels.
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 6:46 :26 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you 
>> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If 
>> not, stop right here
>>
>> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new 
>> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will - 
>> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which 
>> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent 
>> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>>
>> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo 
>> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this 
>> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes 
>> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his 
>> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s 
>> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo, 
>> not the bike. 
>>
>> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it, 
>> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous 
>> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose 
>> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the 
>> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of 
>> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever 
>> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell 
>> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I 
>> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have 
>> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the 
>> parts this week.
>>
>> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone 
>> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made 
>> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a 
>> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of 
>> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a 
>> “joy-bringer.”
>>
>> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes 
>> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated 
>> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: AHH max tire width and touring ability

[Nate Phipps]

Thanks, Jimmy et. al. - I'm looking forward to putting it through the 
paces! I'll be doing an unloaded gravel ride this week as a point of 
contract to a loaded night out. 

And I do plan to add the obligatory tombstone-to-bar strap as soon as I can 
find on long enough. 

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 5:57:41 PM UTC-4 Jimmy Warren wrote:

> Ah yes, Bill advises well. What you can do for safety while you have this 
> rack is loop a strap from the rack to the stem and make sure it has 
> tension. (I use a John's Irish strap for this purpose.) Then if there is 
> any rack breakage, the rack won't move down and stop the wheel and cause a 
> crash.
>
> And your bike photo is amazing. It makes me want to go ride. Your bike 
> model is what the Bike Snob has been enjoying for maybe a year now, and 
> he's done quite a few blog entries about it.
>
> -Jimmy
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:53 AM Nathan Phipps  wrote:
>
>> Good looking out, Bill. I picked up the bike on Friday and had to throw 
>> together a camping setup for Saturday, so there were some compromises - you 
>> know you have good bikes friends when you can source an M-18 and a basket 
>> in 90-minutes! That said, I would like a sturdier setup.
>>
>> Let me know if anyone is holding at sturdier rack!
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 2:46:08 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Be careful with that basket setup.  The diving board on your front rack 
>>> is already sagging.  Run only really light loads in that basket, unless you 
>>> invest in a sturdier front rack.  That looks like a Nitto M18.  Something 
>>> like a Marks Rack could be run with 2 pairs of struts and would be much 
>>> much sturdier.  Something that attaches down low on the fork tips would be 
>>> even better.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 11:18:10 AM UTC-7 Nathan Phipps wrote:
>>>
 Ok, photo for some attention ;-)

 [image: IMG_2061.jpeg]


 On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 12:05:41 PM UTC-4 Nathan Phipps wrote:

> Hiya. Long-time fanboy, first-time owner here. 
>
> I’ve recently acquired a newer MIT A Homer Hilsen as my first Riv -  
> very fun bike, and I suspect it will help me explore which Riv is for me 
> - 
> and maybe it’s the AHH. We shall see. I tend to prefer cantis, and all 
> things equal, the Sam would likely be my choice, but I got a great deal, 
> so 
> I went for it. 
>
> Query 1: In any case, I’m curious what tire/fender/brake combos folks 
> are running to maximize tire width (I *think* it’s 42 w/ fenders) - I’d 
> also be curious on max tire width without fenders (I’d guess a true 
> 47mm). 
> It’s got the 41.5 (or so) Fatty Rumpkins on currently, and I may just add 
> some VO Zeppelins and go from there. 
>
> Query 2: Have folks loaded their AHHs for touring? If so, with how 
> much gear? The latest Riv catalog claims 40lbs as a the right max load 
> (set 
> against 55lbs I believe for the Sam). I did an S24O this weekend and had 
> roughly 40lbs before I added firewood. Handled fine, and I know weight 
> rating are generally conservative (though maybe not Riv’s?)
>
> Many thanks for the information.
>
> -Nate
> Ann Arbor, MI
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[RBW] Re: Clem L Weight

[Mark Roland]

I'll just say mine weighs somewhere around 200lbs (before going grocery 
shopping.)

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 7:28:16 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> Guys, guys. Manners, please. It's not polite to ask a step through its 
> weight. Anyway, not part of the job description. Mine is lighter than 
> almost any "electric bicycle" aka moped.
>
> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 11:16:24 AM UTC-4, Tim Rogers wrote:
>>
>> I needed to weigh my Clem L for a trailer load/balance exercise. I had 
>> trouble finding a reliable weight anywhere, so here it is for future 
>> reference. 
>>
>> 38 lbs 
>> Stock 59 cm build
>> Brooks B67 saddle
>> Pletscher rear rack and kickstand
>> AXA Frame lock
>> Sackville bar tube bag
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone interested in a Ride in NJ in October?

['John Hawrylak' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Bob

1st Ave and Hennessey appears to be be the Shore Casino with plenty of 
parking and hopefully restrooms.  It seems like a good Start/Finish point.  
This would be the 20/25M loop out to Sandy Hook

Driving seems to be GSP to NJ36 near Matawan and then NJ36 to AH and 1st 
Ave.  There don't appear to be direct roads if you stay on the GSP further 
east and then come north to AH.   Is this correct or are there better 
routes?

Only problem would be the NYC folks coming by train to reach the Start.  
 Would the HHT be the best way for them to come from Matawan or are there 
better choices if they stay on the train past Matawan and get off at 
another station??   They could go down to Long Branch for the return trip.

John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ

On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 12:18:20 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
> Starting from Atlantic Highlands (First Ave & Hennessey), it's about 4 
> miles to the ocean (after passing through the town of Highlands and then 
> crossing the Rt. 36 bridge, which has cycling/ped infrastructure). From the 
> bridge, the basic loop to the end of Sandy Hook and back to the bridge is 
> around 12 miles (of course, it's more if you decide to ride around and hit 
> up all some interesting points up there). So, the trip from AH to SH and 
> back to AH will be about 20-25 miles.
>
> Another option for those coming by train would be to continue south along 
> the ocean after Sandy Hook and take Rt. 36/Ocean Ave for most of the way to 
> pick up the return train at Long Branch (it's 7 miles from the Rt. 36 
> bridge to the station). So that trip from Matawan to AH to SH to LB would 
> be around 34 miles.
>
> Bob E
> Cranford, NJ
>
>
> Woodstown NJ
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Clem L Weight

[Mark Roland]

Guys, guys. Manners, please. It's not polite to ask a step through its 
weight. Anyway, not part of the job description. Mine is lighter than 
almost any "electric bicycle" aka moped.

On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 11:16:24 AM UTC-4, Tim Rogers wrote:
>
> I needed to weigh my Clem L for a trailer load/balance exercise. I had 
> trouble finding a reliable weight anywhere, so here it is for future 
> reference. 
>
> 38 lbs 
> Stock 59 cm build
> Brooks B67 saddle
> Pletscher rear rack and kickstand
> AXA Frame lock
> Sackville bar tube bag
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[RBW] Re: Platypus: First Look

[Mark Roland]

Wow. That is gorgeous. Is it red? If that is the frame color, your wheelset 
will look killer.I would send you my raspberry Brooks, but my Susie arrived 
today and it's slated for that bike. Which means I must stop 
procrastinating and build the dang wheels.

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 6:46 :26 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:
>
> Hi Friends,
>
> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you 
> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If 
> not, stop right here
>
> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new 
> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will - 
> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which 
> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent 
> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>
> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo 
> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this 
> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes 
> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his 
> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s 
> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo, 
> not the bike. 
>
> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it, 
> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous 
> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose 
> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the 
> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of 
> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever 
> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell 
> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I 
> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have 
> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the 
> parts this week.
>
> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone 
> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made 
> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a 
> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of 
> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a 
> “joy-bringer.”
>
> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes 
> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated 
> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>
> Leah
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Patrick Moore]

I laughed, but in a friendly way, not a sneering way, at your enthusiasm,
and opened my eyes wide at the build list; hi-end! Nice!

I'm not sure a Platypus is my cup o' tea, but yours as described will
certainly be an elegant build and, if you ride it as you've ridden your
others, it will be a very practical build.

Between my eyes and my monitor, I can't say what the frame color is; can
you clarify in words what I can't see on screen? Purpley-gray?

Me, I am just making final arrangements to trade the remnants of a Riv Road
custom for a brutalist, cheap (but nicely cheap!) ready-to-ride Redline
Monocog 29er; this after I just had the same weird custom replaced by a
locally built, more integrated (racks and fenders and lighting routing),
more liberally tired (takes 42s under fenders) replacement.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 4:46 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you
> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If
> not, stop right here
>
> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new
> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will -
> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which
> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent
> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>
> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo
> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this
> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes
> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his
> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s
> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo,
> not the bike.
>
> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it,
> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous
> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose
> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the
> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of
> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever
> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell
> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I
> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have
> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the
> parts this week.
>
> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone
> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made
> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a
> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of
> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a
> “joy-bringer.”
>
> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes
> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated
> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>
> Leah
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[Patrick Moore]

And (3): report, please, on how well this serves as a stand for minor
drivetrain tuneups and cleaning.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 4:21 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> This is the one presently at the top of my short list.
>
> Has anyone else besides James used these, and can
> it-er-she-er-he-er-she-er-it report on their (1) stability and (2) ease of
> use?
>
> The Nitto stands look nice, but I wonder if they're not more fiddley than
> this one?
>
> James: These went to the top of my list because I am inclined to trust
> your judgment, so don't be offended if I ask for backup opinion.
>
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-4 James / Analog Cycles
> wrote:
>
>> Best I've used (and I have used Delta, Minoura, Feedback):
>> https://uniorusa.com/products/floor-stand-1693h?_pos=1&_sid=57a1e46ee&_ss=r
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[Patrick Moore]

This is the one presently at the top of my short list.

Has anyone else besides James used these, and can
it-er-she-er-he-er-she-er-it report on their (1) stability and (2) ease of
use?

The Nitto stands look nice, but I wonder if they're not more fiddley than
this one?

James: These went to the top of my list because I am inclined to trust your
judgment, so don't be offended if I ask for backup opinion.


On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-4 James / Analog Cycles
wrote:

> Best I've used (and I have used Delta, Minoura, Feedback):
> https://uniorusa.com/products/floor-stand-1693h?_pos=1&_sid=57a1e46ee&_ss=r


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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[Joel Stern]

Well I need to stance and I ordered another one from a company that was
recommended in this thread. But I’m going to have to look at this Nitto one
because it does look good it just takes up a little more space it seems but
probably not too much and I do like the idea of being able to spin the
wheels while the bike is in the house and I’ll try to get upside down.
Please forgive my grammar as I dictated this

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 6:09 PM S. Greco  wrote:

> I ordered mine from Rene Herse - the non folding variety. I've never tried
> the folding one, but I wish I had bought this Nitto stand years ago. I
> rarely need a full work stand, but it's excellent to be able to adjust a
> derailleur while spinning the pedals/wheels securely and that stand fits
> just about anywhere, or just holds your bike up and looks nice.
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 12:46:33 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Those look nice.  Where did you find one?  I only see Ben’s and Rene
>> Herse.
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:06 PM S. Greco  wrote:
>>
>>> I bought a Nitto one recently and really love it. It is strong enough
>>> and also floats the rear wheel high enough to do simple drivetrain work.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-4 James / Analog
>>> Cycles wrote:
>>>
 Best I've used (and I have used Delta, Minoura, Feedback):
 https://uniorusa.com/products/floor-stand-1693h?_pos=1&_sid=57a1e46ee&_ss=r

 Here's our test:  we elevate expensive bikes on pedestals in the shop.
 They need to stay upright, more or less no matter what.  Kids, dogs, bikes
 bump into them.  These Unior stands are heavy, stable, easy to use, pretty
 affordable.  Highly adaptable: fat bikes, thru axles, it doesn't matter,
 that fork thing just works.   Stable without screwing it down, really
 insanely stable if you screw it to the floor or a board.

 -James / Analog Cycles
 On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 10:44:18 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:

> Thanks Robert.  I’d love to use a wall but I don’t have a clear one.
> I do have floor space.
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:39 PM Robert Hakim 
> wrote:
>
>> I know you stated that you prefer a floor stand but I believe these
>> Velo hinges are worth consideration if you are able to lift your bike up.
>> Here 
>>
>> I live in a moderate size apartment and keep 6 bicycles reasonably
>> accessible between a floor stand and 2 hinges. I was concerned with the
>> weight of my off-road touring bike and was comforted by installing it so
>> the hook would flex and allow the rear wheel to rest on the floor, while
>> still able to pivot easily.
>>
>> I do recommend mounting hook for the rear wheel to a small piece of
>> wood to protect the paint from tire marks.
>>
>> Robert,
>> SLC, Ut
>>
>> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 11:36:28 AM UTC-6 Joel wrote:
>>
>>> Cross posted on Bob.
>>>
>>> I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very
>>> stable.  I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style 
>>> to
>>> keep my bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on 
>>> eBay
>>> and Amazon but thought it wise to check here before buying.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: Advice on Onyx Hubs

[Joseph Willms]

I've got some Onyx road hubs on my road bike from before they offered the 
Vesper. The one thing I will tell you is that Onyx hubs are built to last 
forever, and I don't think they'd ever put anything out there that won't. 
If I were you, I'd just email them directly at sa...@onyxrp.com and see 
what they tell you. They've always been good at getting back to me pretty 
quickly and answering any and all questions I've ever had. 

Hope you enjoy whatever you get. It'll definitely be noticeable climbing 
and not having the sound of pawls hitting their engagement points is pretty 
awesome too IMO. 

Joe

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 11:07:14 AM UTC-5 Elijah Bernstein-Cooper 
wrote:

> I would like to build a rear wheel for my 2020 Atlantis with an Onyx hub. 
> I am debating between their newer Vesper model and older model. My priority 
> is a durability over weight, within reason.
>
> Onyx has a new model out, Vesper, which is apparently lighter than their 
> older model by 200g. However I don't mind a little extra weight and I'd 
> prefer to have a more sturdy hub. 
>
> Does anyone have insight into if the reduced weight in the newer Vesper 
> model sacrificed any durability?
>
> Vesper: 
> https://onyxrp.com/store/mtb-hubs/onyx-vesper-mtb-cl-hg-11spd-135-qr-rear-hub/
> Older model: 
> https://onyxrp.com/store/mtb-hubs/mtb-cl-hg-qr/mtb-cl-hg-135-qr/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[S. Greco]

I got mine from Rene Herse. I got the non-folding variety. I have never 
tried the folding one. I rarely need a full repair stand at home and I 
really wish I had bought this Nitto one years ago - it's super nice to be 
able to rotate the pedals/rear wheel while tuning a derailleur. It's sorta 
not compatible with old campy style skews though, because of the way it 
pinches the skewer, It works fantastic with most though, especially the 
Paul skewers.
On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 12:46:33 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> Those look nice.  Where did you find one?  I only see Ben’s and Rene 
> Herse. 
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:06 PM S. Greco  wrote:
>
>> I bought a Nitto one recently and really love it. It is strong enough and 
>> also floats the rear wheel high enough to do simple drivetrain work.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-4 James / Analog Cycles 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Best I've used (and I have used Delta, Minoura, Feedback):  
>>> https://uniorusa.com/products/floor-stand-1693h?_pos=1&_sid=57a1e46ee&_ss=r
>>>
>>> Here's our test:  we elevate expensive bikes on pedestals in the shop.  
>>> They need to stay upright, more or less no matter what.  Kids, dogs, bikes 
>>> bump into them.  These Unior stands are heavy, stable, easy to use, pretty 
>>> affordable.  Highly adaptable: fat bikes, thru axles, it doesn't matter, 
>>> that fork thing just works.   Stable without screwing it down, really 
>>> insanely stable if you screw it to the floor or a board.
>>>
>>> -James / Analog Cycles
>>> On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 10:44:18 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Robert.  I’d love to use a wall but I don’t have a clear one.  I 
 do have floor space.  

 On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:39 PM Robert Hakim  
 wrote:

> I know you stated that you prefer a floor stand but I believe these 
> Velo hinges are worth consideration if you are able to lift your bike up. 
> Here 
>
> I live in a moderate size apartment and keep 6 bicycles reasonably 
> accessible between a floor stand and 2 hinges. I was concerned with the 
> weight of my off-road touring bike and was comforted by installing it so 
> the hook would flex and allow the rear wheel to rest on the floor, while 
> still able to pivot easily.  
>
> I do recommend mounting hook for the rear wheel to a small piece of 
> wood to protect the paint from tire marks. 
>
> Robert,
> SLC, Ut
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 11:36:28 AM UTC-6 Joel wrote:
>
>> Cross posted on Bob.  
>>
>> I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very 
>> stable.  I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style 
>> to 
>> keep my bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on 
>> eBay 
>> and Amazon but thought it wise to check here before buying.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Advice on Onyx Hubs

[Victor Hanson]

I'd say either.  Much like the early days of Phil Wood, Onyx has an
impeccable reputation for quality.   Greater question why Onyx?  If  you
can afford it great, but the DT Swiss, with the 36t ratchet assembly is
$350 and represents stellar value.

VTW

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 9:07 AM Elijah Bernstein-Cooper <
e.bernsteincoo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like to build a rear wheel for my 2020 Atlantis with an Onyx hub.
> I am debating between their newer Vesper model and older model. My priority
> is a durability over weight, within reason.
>
> Onyx has a new model out, Vesper, which is apparently lighter than their
> older model by 200g. However I don't mind a little extra weight and I'd
> prefer to have a more sturdy hub.
>
> Does anyone have insight into if the reduced weight in the newer Vesper
> model sacrificed any durability?
>
> Vesper:
> https://onyxrp.com/store/mtb-hubs/onyx-vesper-mtb-cl-hg-11spd-135-qr-rear-hub/
> Older model:
> https://onyxrp.com/store/mtb-hubs/mtb-cl-hg-qr/mtb-cl-hg-135-qr/
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Re: [RBW] Re: Advice on Onyx Hubs

[Victor Hanson]

Bill,

If that's the XT series I absolutely agree, the bearings are bomber and you
cannot run it into the ground.
VTW

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:19 AM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> I can't help with the requested advice, but I can say I would regard a
> $450-$500 rear hub an unnecessary extravagance on a 2020 Atlantis.  I'd buy
> a FH-M737, unless I had money burning a hole in my pocket.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 9:07:14 AM UTC-7 Elijah Bernstein-Cooper
> wrote:
>
>> I would like to build a rear wheel for my 2020 Atlantis with an Onyx hub.
>> I am debating between their newer Vesper model and older model. My priority
>> is a durability over weight, within reason.
>>
>> Onyx has a new model out, Vesper, which is apparently lighter than their
>> older model by 200g. However I don't mind a little extra weight and I'd
>> prefer to have a more sturdy hub.
>>
>> Does anyone have insight into if the reduced weight in the newer Vesper
>> model sacrificed any durability?
>>
>> Vesper:
>> https://onyxrp.com/store/mtb-hubs/onyx-vesper-mtb-cl-hg-11spd-135-qr-rear-hub/
>> Older model:
>> https://onyxrp.com/store/mtb-hubs/mtb-cl-hg-qr/mtb-cl-hg-135-qr/
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 1 Roll-y Pol-y tire with black sidewalls

[Michael Cyr]

I have a set of Ruffy Tuffys. Used. I recently pulled them off a 
Rambouillet I purchased in August. Let me know if you're interested

Michael

On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 4:08:15 PM UTC-4 EasyRider wrote:

> I have one of these already, and am looking for a second -- new or used.
>
> Pete
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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[S. Greco]

I ordered mine from Rene Herse - the non folding variety. I've never tried 
the folding one, but I wish I had bought this Nitto stand years ago. I 
rarely need a full work stand, but it's excellent to be able to adjust a 
derailleur while spinning the pedals/wheels securely and that stand fits 
just about anywhere, or just holds your bike up and looks nice. 

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 12:46:33 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> Those look nice.  Where did you find one?  I only see Ben’s and Rene 
> Herse. 
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:06 PM S. Greco  wrote:
>
>> I bought a Nitto one recently and really love it. It is strong enough and 
>> also floats the rear wheel high enough to do simple drivetrain work.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-4 James / Analog Cycles 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Best I've used (and I have used Delta, Minoura, Feedback):  
>>> https://uniorusa.com/products/floor-stand-1693h?_pos=1&_sid=57a1e46ee&_ss=r
>>>
>>> Here's our test:  we elevate expensive bikes on pedestals in the shop.  
>>> They need to stay upright, more or less no matter what.  Kids, dogs, bikes 
>>> bump into them.  These Unior stands are heavy, stable, easy to use, pretty 
>>> affordable.  Highly adaptable: fat bikes, thru axles, it doesn't matter, 
>>> that fork thing just works.   Stable without screwing it down, really 
>>> insanely stable if you screw it to the floor or a board.
>>>
>>> -James / Analog Cycles
>>> On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 10:44:18 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Robert.  I’d love to use a wall but I don’t have a clear one.  I 
 do have floor space.  

 On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:39 PM Robert Hakim  
 wrote:

> I know you stated that you prefer a floor stand but I believe these 
> Velo hinges are worth consideration if you are able to lift your bike up. 
> Here 
>
> I live in a moderate size apartment and keep 6 bicycles reasonably 
> accessible between a floor stand and 2 hinges. I was concerned with the 
> weight of my off-road touring bike and was comforted by installing it so 
> the hook would flex and allow the rear wheel to rest on the floor, while 
> still able to pivot easily.  
>
> I do recommend mounting hook for the rear wheel to a small piece of 
> wood to protect the paint from tire marks. 
>
> Robert,
> SLC, Ut
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 11:36:28 AM UTC-6 Joel wrote:
>
>> Cross posted on Bob.  
>>
>> I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very 
>> stable.  I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style 
>> to 
>> keep my bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on 
>> eBay 
>> and Amazon but thought it wise to check here before buying.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone interested in a Ride in NJ in October?

[Roberta]

Paul,

I will miss you. I know it's a longer drive for you, but would have been 
great if your wife and daughter could have come up, too.

I am excited about a nice, healthy ride.  I still probably won't be able to 
keep up with the fast crowd for the entire time, but I'm OK with that.  All 
the ride options look like lovely.  Thanks to John and Bob and everyone 
else for offering suggestions.NY people, are the meetup suggestions 
easy enough for you?  

Roberta

On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 3:18:58 PM UTC-4, Paul Richardson wrote:
>
> heartened to see this is happening but sorry i won't be able to join!  
> ride on!
>
> paul
> takoma park, md.
>
> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 12:19:19 PM UTC-4 John Hawrylak wrote:
>
>> I checked the mileage from Atlantic Highlands to Sandy Hook light using 
>> Bing maps.  They show 9.3M, which is shorter than I thought.
>>
>> So here is a summary with mileage rounded up:
>>
>> Henry Hudson Trail (HHT), North Section, Matewan  to Atlantic Highlands,  
>> 12M   HHT brochure, Monmouth Co Parks
>> Atlantic Highlands to Sandy Hook Light,  city streets, NJ36 bridge over 
>> bay  10M   Bing Maps
>> Total 1 way Distance  
>>   22M  
>> Round Trip Distance, with some extra miles thrown in  
>>   50M   Really FLAT terrain, RR bed and sea 
>> level streets/roads
>>
>> If the Basic Group is 12-14 mph, then Total Riding Time is about 4H.  
>>  Total Clock time is probably 5 to 6 H depending on how many stops.
>>
>> The Matewan trail head has these advantages
>> 1  Easy access from/to the GSP for folks coming in car.  Exit GSP, turn 
>> left, go over the GSP on overpass, make 1st right and 1 block to HHT.  Very 
>> minimal local road travel required.  99M from southern NJ on NJTP, NJ440, & 
>> GSP,  1H 45M travel time
>> 2  Easy access from/to the Matewan RR station for folks from NYC on NJ 
>> Transit.  About 1M of city streets and NO major highway travel
>>
>> The eastern end of the HHT in Atlantic Highlands has a HHT Activity 
>> Center, which may have restrooms and water fountains.  Can stop going out 
>> and coming back.
>>
>> Overall starting in Matewan makes a lot of sense: reasonable 50M ride 
>> distance and time over FLAT terrain,  *possible* restrooms at 12M out 
>> and 35M back,  good  commuter train access.  A 50M ride is reasonable given 
>> the distances folks will be travelling to get there.
>>
>> Can someone local confirm or correct this.I would check out myself, 
>> but it's pretty far to travel (99M, and tolls) 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Advice on Onyx Hubs

[Nick Payne]

You know that the 135mm OLN model only comes as a disc hub? The non-disc 
hubs are all 130mm. I have one of the older models on a gravel bike, and it 
has been perfectly reliable. I do like the completely silent freehub, which 
is the reason I bought it. Other than that the new model has swapped from 
stainless steel to aluminium for the freehub (not a plus, in my opinion), I 
don't know anything about the newer model.

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Re: [RBW] Re: AHH max tire width and touring ability

[James Warren]

Ah yes, Bill advises well. What you can do for safety while you have this
rack is loop a strap from the rack to the stem and make sure it has
tension. (I use a John's Irish strap for this purpose.) Then if there is
any rack breakage, the rack won't move down and stop the wheel and cause a
crash.

And your bike photo is amazing. It makes me want to go ride. Your bike
model is what the Bike Snob has been enjoying for maybe a year now, and
he's done quite a few blog entries about it.

-Jimmy

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 11:53 AM Nathan Phipps  wrote:

> Good looking out, Bill. I picked up the bike on Friday and had to throw
> together a camping setup for Saturday, so there were some compromises - you
> know you have good bikes friends when you can source an M-18 and a basket
> in 90-minutes! That said, I would like a sturdier setup.
>
> Let me know if anyone is holding at sturdier rack!
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 2:46:08 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Be careful with that basket setup.  The diving board on your front rack
>> is already sagging.  Run only really light loads in that basket, unless you
>> invest in a sturdier front rack.  That looks like a Nitto M18.  Something
>> like a Marks Rack could be run with 2 pairs of struts and would be much
>> much sturdier.  Something that attaches down low on the fork tips would be
>> even better.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 11:18:10 AM UTC-7 Nathan Phipps wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, photo for some attention ;-)
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_2061.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 12:05:41 PM UTC-4 Nathan Phipps wrote:
>>>
 Hiya. Long-time fanboy, first-time owner here.

 I’ve recently acquired a newer MIT A Homer Hilsen as my first Riv -
 very fun bike, and I suspect it will help me explore which Riv is for me -
 and maybe it’s the AHH. We shall see. I tend to prefer cantis, and all
 things equal, the Sam would likely be my choice, but I got a great deal, so
 I went for it.

 Query 1: In any case, I’m curious what tire/fender/brake combos folks
 are running to maximize tire width (I *think* it’s 42 w/ fenders) - I’d
 also be curious on max tire width without fenders (I’d guess a true 47mm).
 It’s got the 41.5 (or so) Fatty Rumpkins on currently, and I may just add
 some VO Zeppelins and go from there.

 Query 2: Have folks loaded their AHHs for touring? If so, with how much
 gear? The latest Riv catalog claims 40lbs as a the right max load (set
 against 55lbs I believe for the Sam). I did an S24O this weekend and had
 roughly 40lbs before I added firewood. Handled fine, and I know weight
 rating are generally conservative (though maybe not Riv’s?)

 Many thanks for the information.

 -Nate
 Ann Arbor, MI

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Re: [RBW] AHH max tire width and touring ability

[James Warren]

Nate,

You can do a huge range of things on that Homer. It's outstanding. And it
looks like you've already proven that with the firewood S240. Go for it.
And if you reach a limit, you'll know it* and find a solution when you
encounter the limit. (*Because, you've already indicated that you are used
to perceiving handling.)

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 9:05 AM Nathan Phipps  wrote:

> Hiya. Long-time fanboy, first-time owner here.
>
> I’ve recently acquired a newer MIT A Homer Hilsen as my first Riv -  very
> fun bike, and I suspect it will help me explore which Riv is for me - and
> maybe it’s the AHH. We shall see. I tend to prefer cantis, and all things
> equal, the Sam would likely be my choice, but I got a great deal, so I went
> for it.
>
> Query 1: In any case, I’m curious what tire/fender/brake combos folks are
> running to maximize tire width (I *think* it’s 42 w/ fenders) - I’d also be
> curious on max tire width without fenders (I’d guess a true 47mm). It’s got
> the 41.5 (or so) Fatty Rumpkins on currently, and I may just add some VO
> Zeppelins and go from there.
>
> Query 2: Have folks loaded their AHHs for touring? If so, with how much
> gear? The latest Riv catalog claims 40lbs as a the right max load (set
> against 55lbs I believe for the Sam). I did an S24O this weekend and had
> roughly 40lbs before I added firewood. Handled fine, and I know weight
> rating are generally conservative (though maybe not Riv’s?)
>
> Many thanks for the information.
>
> -Nate
> Ann Arbor, MI
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Re: [RBW] Back In The Riv Saddle With A '98 Custom Starck-Riv

[Patrick Moore]

Shoot, I thought Joe had thought that little thing up just for me. It's a
nice little oddity, but serves no purpose that I can see.

Speaking of oddities, I had Chauncey braze a wire "L" onto the right
seatstay just below the bridge, made I think from an old spoke. This is a
chain hook, tho' Joe put an elegant little shelf on the chainstay for this
purpose just for'ard of the dropout; but that shelf -- a kind of
metalsmith's version of the Columbine hanger  -- doesn't work well, since
there is no derailleur to hold the chain taut; the chain just slips off.
But the "L" does hold it up out of the sand (no pretty grass verges here)
when I have to remove the rear wheel by the side of the road.

I'd guess that the L's upright is about 1/2" long. When he made the 2003
Curt replacement (the Curt didn't have that little chainstay lug wing) I
asked him to make the upright longer. He did that. It's about 1 1/2" long,
comically long. But it does work; you can skewer both runs of chain on it
with room to spare.

Both of these are really hidden from sight behind the seatstay; you have to
crane your neck and peer closely to see them.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2020 at 8:14 PM Paul Brodek  wrote:

> That bb shell w/shelf-wing design isn't uncommon, fwiw, and the one on
> Patrick's frame isn't the same shell as the Richard Sachs bb. Richard has
> been designing his own lugs for a long time now, but I'm not very familiar
> with who his suppliers have been over the years. So I don't know who made
> the bb shell in Eric's frame, but it's almost certainly an exclusive Sachs
> design.
>
> Maxway is a Taiwanese framebuilding company, but I don't think they make
> their own lugs. They're the go-to shop in Taiwan for higher-end steel frame
> mfr. They made the Kogswells, wouldn't be surprised if that's who Riv is
> using for their Taiwan production. The recent Raleigh Team Pro 40th
> Anniv/Tribute frameset is made by Maxway.
>
> The two better-/best-known lug mfrs in Taiwan are Allotec and Long Shen. I
> don't know much about Allotec, but the 40th Anniv Raleigh Team Pro uses
> lugs made by Allotec.
>
> Long Shen was/is better known, I think, but it seems like they're
> closing/closed. Riv said something about "a sister company" taking over
> production so they weren't worried. Richard Sachs said he placed a "big m-f
> order" with Long Shen when he heard the news. He did not abbreviate "m-f."
>
> Long Shen was making the current Sachs lugs, dropouts and probably other
> frame fittings as well, but they were/are Richard's own designs. He owns
> the molds/tooling, so potentially he could find someone else to make them,
> but he ordered enough to likely last till his last hurrah.
>
> Long Shen made lugs for other folks, too, so those folks would have had to
> scramble to fine new suppliers. The Pacenti lugs/drops, now owned by
> Framebuilder Supply, were from both Long Shen and Allotec.
>
> I _think_ there's still cast lugs being made in Japan. I'm pretty sure
> that's where Mark DiNucci gets his lugs/bits made.
>
> Many years ago I visited Nikko Lugs in Japan, with Trek's big (in many
> senses of the word) buyer Fred Drenhouse (RIP). Fred was so big/tall many
> just called him "Big Fred." To me he was Fred De House. Sorry for the
> drift. Nikko still seems to be in business, still making lugs, but they're
> a bulge-forming company, don't think they do casting. That bb design has to
> be cast, can't get that wing with bulge-forming, afaik.
>
> Richard Sachs designed some lugs for Grant @ BS USA in the early '90s,
> with Grant intending Nikko to make them for the RB series. Don't know if
> those ever went into production.
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
>
>
> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 6:00:52 PM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>>
>> Not saying they made the frame, just the lug.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 5:54:04 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> Pretty sure that is an "M" for Maxway.
>>> I have that same feature on my Maxway single speed frame. I believe that
>>> they made some frames for Rivendell at some point, located in Taiwan.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
>>> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 5:48:06 PM UTC-4 campyo...@me.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 There’s a maker whose name starts with “W” (can’t recall the name at
 the moment) who makes BB shells like that. My Richard Sachs has one:


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 On Sep 28, 2020, at 2:40 PM, Paul Brodek  wrote:

 Hey Patrick,

 My frame doesn't have the Little Wing (Well she's walking/thru the
 clouds...), but I'm pretty sure what you've got there is a cast bb shell,
 with the wing integral to the casting. Can't remember who makes it, but
 I've seen 'em before.

 Oh, and I bit the bullet and changed the front rim strip as well. Then
 the tube burst in the stand, pulling it I saw it had already gotten
 

[RBW] Re: Orange Sam in the House

[brendonoid]

I would like to vote +1 for keeping those orange pedals. I think it's bold 
and I respect commitment to a strong colour scheme. Been trying to decide 
on cable colour for my orange appa and blue was in the lineup. Thanks for 
the pics!

On Wednesday, 30 September 2020 at 05:16:23 UTC+8 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> Thanks everyone.
>
> The orange on my Sam looks to me to be more of a pumpkin orange.
>
> The orange grips are  OneUp Components Lock-On Grips. 
>
> I'm liking the feel and comfort.
> I've temporarily removed them to try to stain them a bit to subdue the 
> bright orange.
>
> I'm pretty sure the guy I bought mine from said it was a 2018 Sam.
> He had ridden it very few miles.
>
> I love the look of braided housing and gave used it on a several bikes.
> I looked for a dark blue braided housing but couldn't locate any.
>
> I got this blue housing from velo orange. 
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>
>
>
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[RBW] Orange Sam in the House

[True Golden]

Thanks everyone.

The orange on my Sam looks to me to be more of a pumpkin orange.

The orange grips are
OneUp Components Lock-On Grips.

I'm liking the feel and comfort.
I've temporarily removed them to try to stain them a bit to subdue the bright 
orange.

I'm pretty sure the guy I bought mine from said it was a 2018 Sam.
He had ridden it very few miles.

I love the look of braided housing and gave used it on a several bikes.
I looked for a dark blue braided housing but couldn't locate any.

I got this blue housing from velo orange.

Paul in Dallas




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[RBW] The 2003 Curt 26" wheel Rivendell Road Custom has been claimed

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks for all the interest.

Patrick Moore, who just had a nice fall ride on the older sibling, the 1999
Joe Starck custom 26" Riv Road fixed gofast, in ABQ, NM.


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Re: [RBW] FS: Rene Herse Antelope Hill tires, Swift Industries Short Stack Panniers

[Zack]

Down to 189 shipped for the panniers!

On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 1:13:48 PM UTC-7 Zack wrote:

> 199 Shipped for the panniers? These are really great, I just don't ever 
> use them. 
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 4:00:00 PM UTC-7 Zack wrote:
>
>> Tires gone, panniers still available. $209 shipped? 
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 5:06:23 PM UTC-7 Zack wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, tires are yours Andrew! My paypal is zac...@gmail.com. If you could 
>>> include a little extra to cover fees, i'd greatly appreciate it! 
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 23, 2020 at 5:04 PM Andrew Letton  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Zach
 I'll buy the tires!
 cheers,
 Andrew

 On Thursday, September 24, 2020, 10:00:56 AM GMT+10, Zack <
 zac...@gmail.com> wrote: 


 Selling a couple things that have just been sitting around not getting 
 any use.

 1. Rene Herse Antelope Hill ExtraLight Tan sidewall tires. Still in 
 packaging. *$69 shipped. *
 2. Swift Industries Short Stack Panniers. These retailed for $260, only 
 super light use. Lots and lots of life left. *$219 shipped. *


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[RBW] Re: AHH max tire width and touring ability

[Nathan Phipps]

Good looking out, Bill. I picked up the bike on Friday and had to throw 
together a camping setup for Saturday, so there were some compromises - you 
know you have good bikes friends when you can source an M-18 and a basket 
in 90-minutes! That said, I would like a sturdier setup.

Let me know if anyone is holding at sturdier rack!

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 2:46:08 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Be careful with that basket setup.  The diving board on your front rack is 
> already sagging.  Run only really light loads in that basket, unless you 
> invest in a sturdier front rack.  That looks like a Nitto M18.  Something 
> like a Marks Rack could be run with 2 pairs of struts and would be much 
> much sturdier.  Something that attaches down low on the fork tips would be 
> even better.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 11:18:10 AM UTC-7 Nathan Phipps wrote:
>
>> Ok, photo for some attention ;-)
>>
>> [image: IMG_2061.jpeg]
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 12:05:41 PM UTC-4 Nathan Phipps wrote:
>>
>>> Hiya. Long-time fanboy, first-time owner here. 
>>>
>>> I’ve recently acquired a newer MIT A Homer Hilsen as my first Riv -  
>>> very fun bike, and I suspect it will help me explore which Riv is for me - 
>>> and maybe it’s the AHH. We shall see. I tend to prefer cantis, and all 
>>> things equal, the Sam would likely be my choice, but I got a great deal, so 
>>> I went for it. 
>>>
>>> Query 1: In any case, I’m curious what tire/fender/brake combos folks 
>>> are running to maximize tire width (I *think* it’s 42 w/ fenders) - I’d 
>>> also be curious on max tire width without fenders (I’d guess a true 47mm). 
>>> It’s got the 41.5 (or so) Fatty Rumpkins on currently, and I may just add 
>>> some VO Zeppelins and go from there. 
>>>
>>> Query 2: Have folks loaded their AHHs for touring? If so, with how much 
>>> gear? The latest Riv catalog claims 40lbs as a the right max load (set 
>>> against 55lbs I believe for the Sam). I did an S24O this weekend and had 
>>> roughly 40lbs before I added firewood. Handled fine, and I know weight 
>>> rating are generally conservative (though maybe not Riv’s?)
>>>
>>> Many thanks for the information.
>>>
>>> -Nate
>>> Ann Arbor, MI
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Onyx Hubs

[Garth]

   Elijah, The weight savings from a complete redesign of the internals and 
an alloy freehub, according to this :

https://noblwheels.com/the-all-new-onyx-vesper/?v=4326ce96e26c




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Re: [RBW] Re: Orange Sam in the House

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I don't know if it's the lighting, but the paint job looks spectacular.  I
could be fooled into thinking it's a Joe Bell custom.

Toshi

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[RBW] Re: AHH max tire width and touring ability

[Bill Lindsay]

Be careful with that basket setup.  The diving board on your front rack is 
already sagging.  Run only really light loads in that basket, unless you 
invest in a sturdier front rack.  That looks like a Nitto M18.  Something 
like a Marks Rack could be run with 2 pairs of struts and would be much 
much sturdier.  Something that attaches down low on the fork tips would be 
even better.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 11:18:10 AM UTC-7 Nathan Phipps wrote:

> Ok, photo for some attention ;-)
>
> [image: IMG_2061.jpeg]
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 12:05:41 PM UTC-4 Nathan Phipps wrote:
>
>> Hiya. Long-time fanboy, first-time owner here. 
>>
>> I’ve recently acquired a newer MIT A Homer Hilsen as my first Riv -  very 
>> fun bike, and I suspect it will help me explore which Riv is for me - and 
>> maybe it’s the AHH. We shall see. I tend to prefer cantis, and all things 
>> equal, the Sam would likely be my choice, but I got a great deal, so I went 
>> for it. 
>>
>> Query 1: In any case, I’m curious what tire/fender/brake combos folks are 
>> running to maximize tire width (I *think* it’s 42 w/ fenders) - I’d also be 
>> curious on max tire width without fenders (I’d guess a true 47mm). It’s got 
>> the 41.5 (or so) Fatty Rumpkins on currently, and I may just add some VO 
>> Zeppelins and go from there. 
>>
>> Query 2: Have folks loaded their AHHs for touring? If so, with how much 
>> gear? The latest Riv catalog claims 40lbs as a the right max load (set 
>> against 55lbs I believe for the Sam). I did an S24O this weekend and had 
>> roughly 40lbs before I added firewood. Handled fine, and I know weight 
>> rating are generally conservative (though maybe not Riv’s?)
>>
>> Many thanks for the information.
>>
>> -Nate
>> Ann Arbor, MI
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Orange Sam in the House

[Joel Stern]

Is that the 2019 Orange?  It looks very tame in your photo.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 2:32 PM Ash  wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Nice bike.  The color theme is very cool!
>
> Which grips are those?  Look very comfy.
>
> On Friday, 25 September 2020 at 13:23:53 UTC-7 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>>
>> I made some changes on my Sam this morning.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> Most notable, the shifters, brake levers,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> cable housing, 45T outer chain ring and rear derailer.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I need to fine tune positioning of the thumb shifters.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> The blue housing seemed cool in my visualization but now installed I'm
>> not too sure.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Also I think the orange pedals will be replaced by silver.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I do kinda dig the blue chain ring.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>
>> Paul in Dallas
>>
>>
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>> [image: Image][image: Image][image: Image][image: Image]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Orange Sam in the House

[Ash]

Paul, 

Nice bike.  The color theme is very cool!   

Which grips are those?  Look very comfy.

On Friday, 25 September 2020 at 13:23:53 UTC-7 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> I made some changes on my Sam this morning.
>
> Most notable, the shifters, brake levers, 
> cable housing, 45T outer chain ring and rear derailer.
>
> I need to fine tune positioning of the thumb shifters.
>
> The blue housing seemed cool in my visualization but now installed I'm not 
> too sure.
>
> Also I think the orange pedals will be replaced by silver.
>
> I do kinda dig the blue chain ring.
>
> Paul in Dallas
>
>
> [image: Image][image: Image][image: Image][image: Image] 
>

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[RBW] Re: AHH max tire width and touring ability

[Shoji Takahashi]

Hi Nate,
Looks great! I have a Toyo-built AHH. Clearance is 38 with fenders. (I've 
never tried to max out tires w/o fenders.)

I've done light camping with AHH. For me, AHH did get squirrelly with 
heavier loads that my Hunqapillar could handle without fuss.

Tailwinds,
Shoji
Arlington MA


On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 2:18:10 PM UTC-4 Nathan Phipps wrote:

> Ok, photo for some attention ;-)
>
> [image: IMG_2061.jpeg]
>
>
> On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 12:05:41 PM UTC-4 Nathan Phipps wrote:
>
>> Hiya. Long-time fanboy, first-time owner here. 
>>
>> I’ve recently acquired a newer MIT A Homer Hilsen as my first Riv -  very 
>> fun bike, and I suspect it will help me explore which Riv is for me - and 
>> maybe it’s the AHH. We shall see. I tend to prefer cantis, and all things 
>> equal, the Sam would likely be my choice, but I got a great deal, so I went 
>> for it. 
>>
>> Query 1: In any case, I’m curious what tire/fender/brake combos folks are 
>> running to maximize tire width (I *think* it’s 42 w/ fenders) - I’d also be 
>> curious on max tire width without fenders (I’d guess a true 47mm). It’s got 
>> the 41.5 (or so) Fatty Rumpkins on currently, and I may just add some VO 
>> Zeppelins and go from there. 
>>
>> Query 2: Have folks loaded their AHHs for touring? If so, with how much 
>> gear? The latest Riv catalog claims 40lbs as a the right max load (set 
>> against 55lbs I believe for the Sam). I did an S24O this weekend and had 
>> roughly 40lbs before I added firewood. Handled fine, and I know weight 
>> rating are generally conservative (though maybe not Riv’s?)
>>
>> Many thanks for the information.
>>
>> -Nate
>> Ann Arbor, MI
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Advice on Onyx Hubs

[Bill Lindsay]

I can't help with the requested advice, but I can say I would regard a 
$450-$500 rear hub an unnecessary extravagance on a 2020 Atlantis.  I'd buy 
a FH-M737, unless I had money burning a hole in my pocket.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 9:07:14 AM UTC-7 Elijah Bernstein-Cooper 
wrote:

> I would like to build a rear wheel for my 2020 Atlantis with an Onyx hub. 
> I am debating between their newer Vesper model and older model. My priority 
> is a durability over weight, within reason.
>
> Onyx has a new model out, Vesper, which is apparently lighter than their 
> older model by 200g. However I don't mind a little extra weight and I'd 
> prefer to have a more sturdy hub. 
>
> Does anyone have insight into if the reduced weight in the newer Vesper 
> model sacrificed any durability?
>
> Vesper: 
> https://onyxrp.com/store/mtb-hubs/onyx-vesper-mtb-cl-hg-11spd-135-qr-rear-hub/
> Older model: 
> https://onyxrp.com/store/mtb-hubs/mtb-cl-hg-qr/mtb-cl-hg-135-qr/
>
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[RBW] Re: AHH max tire width and touring ability

[Nathan Phipps]

Ok - a photo for some attention ;-) 

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 12:05:41 PM UTC-4 Nathan Phipps wrote:

> Hiya. Long-time fanboy, first-time owner here. 
>
> I’ve recently acquired a newer MIT A Homer Hilsen as my first Riv -  very 
> fun bike, and I suspect it will help me explore which Riv is for me - and 
> maybe it’s the AHH. We shall see. I tend to prefer cantis, and all things 
> equal, the Sam would likely be my choice, but I got a great deal, so I went 
> for it. 
>
> Query 1: In any case, I’m curious what tire/fender/brake combos folks are 
> running to maximize tire width (I *think* it’s 42 w/ fenders) - I’d also be 
> curious on max tire width without fenders (I’d guess a true 47mm). It’s got 
> the 41.5 (or so) Fatty Rumpkins on currently, and I may just add some VO 
> Zeppelins and go from there. 
>
> Query 2: Have folks loaded their AHHs for touring? If so, with how much 
> gear? The latest Riv catalog claims 40lbs as a the right max load (set 
> against 55lbs I believe for the Sam). I did an S24O this weekend and had 
> roughly 40lbs before I added firewood. Handled fine, and I know weight 
> rating are generally conservative (though maybe not Riv’s?)
>
> Many thanks for the information.
>
> -Nate
> Ann Arbor, MI
>

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[RBW] Re: Orange Sam in the House

[velomann]

I'm doing something similar with my upcoming "Dark Gold" Sam, but gold 
braided ;-)

Mike M

On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 6:20:30 PM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:

> Mine is getting built up right now.  The bike mechanic suggested these 
> housings, I was thinking of white but went with these.  
>
> On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 5:19:34 PM UTC-4 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
>> Forgot a full side view. 
>>
>> Yeah, the shifter position has to change.
>>
>> I can easily shift from grips but they are rubbing grips a bit. I need to 
>> experiment.
>>
>> Paul in Dallas
>> [image: Image] 
>>
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Re: [RBW] WTB: 1 Roll-y Pol-y tire with black sidewalls

[Sky Coulter]

Pete, 

You can buy new from planetx if u can tolerate the shipping.

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TYPARP/rolly-poly-folding-tyre

Sky in new west

> On Sep 28, 2020, at 1:08 PM, EasyRider  wrote:
> 
> 
> I have one of these already, and am looking for a second -- new or used.
> 
> Pete
> Arlington, VA
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gauging interest for potential sale of 58 saluki

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

$82.51.
-Kai
(but in all seriousness, no price fishing allowed. I think it states that 
clearly in the group rules but I'm too lazy to look up the statute. Why not 
aim high and back it off until you've got a taker. $7000 complete?)

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 12:48:43 PM UTC-4 esoterica etc wrote:

> Ooh ooh, I'll up it to $77.50!
>
> ~Mark 
> Raleigh, NC
>
> On Sep 27, 2020, at 17:54, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
>
> I'll start the bidding at $75.
> -Kai
>
> On Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 5:36:15 PM UTC-4 Dylan A wrote:
>
>> [image: FC7DA279-CB61-4B56-ACFF-CE2155E9A51B.jpg]Hey, 
>>Just seeing how much interested in out there for a 58 Saluki, I am 
>> considering listen for sale?  I have it set up with 9 speed Ultegra now but 
>> in its original state has a paul rear wheel with 7 speed freewheel and bar 
>> end shifters.  
>>
>> [image: 8ECE651C-ACC1-4987-B77F-9547B0ABA3DF.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gauging interest for potential sale of 58 saluki

[esoterica etc]

Ooh ooh, I'll up it to $77.50!

~Mark 
Raleigh, NC

> On Sep 27, 2020, at 17:54, Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY  
> wrote:
> 
> I'll start the bidding at $75.
> -Kai
> 
>> On Sunday, September 27, 2020 at 5:36:15 PM UTC-4 Dylan A wrote:
>> Hey, 
>>Just seeing how much interested in out there for a 58 Saluki, I am 
>> considering listen for sale?  I have it set up with 9 speed Ultegra now but 
>> in its original state has a paul rear wheel with 7 speed freewheel and bar 
>> end shifters.  
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[Joel Stern]

Those look nice.  Where did you find one?  I only see Ben’s and Rene Herse.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 12:06 PM S. Greco  wrote:

> I bought a Nitto one recently and really love it. It is strong enough and
> also floats the rear wheel high enough to do simple drivetrain work.
>
> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-4 James / Analog Cycles
> wrote:
>
>> Best I've used (and I have used Delta, Minoura, Feedback):
>> https://uniorusa.com/products/floor-stand-1693h?_pos=1&_sid=57a1e46ee&_ss=r
>>
>> Here's our test:  we elevate expensive bikes on pedestals in the shop.
>> They need to stay upright, more or less no matter what.  Kids, dogs, bikes
>> bump into them.  These Unior stands are heavy, stable, easy to use, pretty
>> affordable.  Highly adaptable: fat bikes, thru axles, it doesn't matter,
>> that fork thing just works.   Stable without screwing it down, really
>> insanely stable if you screw it to the floor or a board.
>>
>> -James / Analog Cycles
>> On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 10:44:18 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Robert.  I’d love to use a wall but I don’t have a clear one.  I
>>> do have floor space.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:39 PM Robert Hakim 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I know you stated that you prefer a floor stand but I believe these
 Velo hinges are worth consideration if you are able to lift your bike up.
 Here 

 I live in a moderate size apartment and keep 6 bicycles reasonably
 accessible between a floor stand and 2 hinges. I was concerned with the
 weight of my off-road touring bike and was comforted by installing it so
 the hook would flex and allow the rear wheel to rest on the floor, while
 still able to pivot easily.

 I do recommend mounting hook for the rear wheel to a small piece of
 wood to protect the paint from tire marks.

 Robert,
 SLC, Ut

 On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 11:36:28 AM UTC-6 Joel wrote:

> Cross posted on Bob.
>
> I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very
> stable.  I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style to
> keep my bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on eBay
> and Amazon but thought it wise to check here before buying.
>
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[RBW] Advice on Onyx Hubs

[Elijah Bernstein-Cooper]

I would like to build a rear wheel for my 2020 Atlantis with an Onyx hub. I 
am debating between their newer Vesper model and older model. My priority 
is a durability over weight, within reason.

Onyx has a new model out, Vesper, which is apparently lighter than their 
older model by 200g. However I don't mind a little extra weight and I'd 
prefer to have a more sturdy hub. 

Does anyone have insight into if the reduced weight in the newer Vesper 
model sacrificed any durability?

Vesper: 
https://onyxrp.com/store/mtb-hubs/onyx-vesper-mtb-cl-hg-11spd-135-qr-rear-hub/
Older model: 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Looking for in house bike stand/holder

[S. Greco]

I bought a Nitto one recently and really love it. It is strong enough and 
also floats the rear wheel high enough to do simple drivetrain work.

On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 9:55:37 AM UTC-4 James / Analog Cycles 
wrote:

> Best I've used (and I have used Delta, Minoura, Feedback):  
> https://uniorusa.com/products/floor-stand-1693h?_pos=1&_sid=57a1e46ee&_ss=r
>
> Here's our test:  we elevate expensive bikes on pedestals in the shop.  
> They need to stay upright, more or less no matter what.  Kids, dogs, bikes 
> bump into them.  These Unior stands are heavy, stable, easy to use, pretty 
> affordable.  Highly adaptable: fat bikes, thru axles, it doesn't matter, 
> that fork thing just works.   Stable without screwing it down, really 
> insanely stable if you screw it to the floor or a board.
>
> -James / Analog Cycles
> On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 10:44:18 PM UTC-4 Joel wrote:
>
>> Thanks Robert.  I’d love to use a wall but I don’t have a clear one.  I 
>> do have floor space.  
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:39 PM Robert Hakim  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know you stated that you prefer a floor stand but I believe these Velo 
>>> hinges are worth consideration if you are able to lift your bike up. 
>>> Here 
>>>
>>> I live in a moderate size apartment and keep 6 bicycles reasonably 
>>> accessible between a floor stand and 2 hinges. I was concerned with the 
>>> weight of my off-road touring bike and was comforted by installing it so 
>>> the hook would flex and allow the rear wheel to rest on the floor, while 
>>> still able to pivot easily.  
>>>
>>> I do recommend mounting hook for the rear wheel to a small piece of wood 
>>> to protect the paint from tire marks. 
>>>
>>> Robert,
>>> SLC, Ut
>>>
>>> On Thursday, September 24, 2020 at 11:36:28 AM UTC-6 Joel wrote:
>>>
 Cross posted on Bob.  

 I have the very old stands that Rivendell sold years ago, not very 
 stable.  I’d like either 1 double or 2 single bike holders, floor style to 
 keep my bikes safe. Recommendations appreciated.  I’ve seen a few on eBay 
 and Amazon but thought it wise to check here before buying.

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[RBW] AHH max tire width and touring ability

[Nathan Phipps]

 

Hiya. Long-time fanboy, first-time owner here. 

I’ve recently acquired a newer MIT A Homer Hilsen as my first Riv -  very 
fun bike, and I suspect it will help me explore which Riv is for me - and 
maybe it’s the AHH. We shall see. I tend to prefer cantis, and all things 
equal, the Sam would likely be my choice, but I got a great deal, so I went 
for it. 

Query 1: In any case, I’m curious what tire/fender/brake combos folks are 
running to maximize tire width (I *think* it’s 42 w/ fenders) - I’d also be 
curious on max tire width without fenders (I’d guess a true 47mm). It’s got 
the 41.5 (or so) Fatty Rumpkins on currently, and I may just add some VO 
Zeppelins and go from there. 

Query 2: Have folks loaded their AHHs for touring? If so, with how much 
gear? The latest Riv catalog claims 40lbs as a the right max load (set 
against 55lbs I believe for the Sam). I did an S24O this weekend and had 
roughly 40lbs before I added firewood. Handled fine, and I know weight 
rating are generally conservative (though maybe not Riv’s?)

Many thanks for the information.

-Nate
Ann Arbor, MI

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Re: [RBW] FS: 60cm Orange Cheviot Complete

[Simon Harris]

Hi All, this has Sold.  Thanks and happy riding. 

On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 at 10:12:29 AM UTC-6 Simon Harris wrote:

> Hi, thanks!  These are some unbranded bars I was lucky to get, Electra 
> maybe?  Lots of sweep, lots of rise, a pretend Bosco bar!
>
> On Monday, September 21, 2020 at 10:54:00 AM UTC-6 Tirebiter ATX wrote:
>
>> Nice set up.  What handlebars are you sporting there?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 9:37 AM Simon Harris  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all, 
>>>
>>> Passing along this Orange Cheviot complete.  
>>> 1x10 shimano mtb stuff
>>> Velocity/Deore LX dynamo wheelset
>>> R559 brakes
>>> Technomic stem
>>> 700x50 tires
>>> Very much enjoy this bike, but life comes up sometimes!  $1600 + bike 
>>> flights, ask any questions!
>>>
>>> Thanks, Si in Montana,
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_20200920_145255696_HDR.jpg] 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] It's a Bombadil

[Alberto Robador]

Thanks for sharing, Andrew! Beautiful family picture too!!!

On Wednesday, September 23, 2020 at 8:13:49 PM UTC-7 Andrew Letton wrote:

> Here's a photo of the stem we're talking about, in case anyone's curious:
>
> IMG_0025 
> 
>
> IMG_0025
>
> Explore letton's photos on Flickr. letton has uploaded 277 photos to 
> Flickr.
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> 
>
> Cheers,
> Andrew in Sydney
>
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2020, 09:59:19 AM GMT+10, Andrew Letton <
> let...@flash.net> wrote: 
>
>
> 
> Hi Alberto,
> :-) Yeah, I get a lot of comments about that stem...
> My first mountain bike was an '84 bottom-of-the-line Univega Land Rover 
> Sport, and over the decade plus that I rode it, I gradually replaced every 
> part but the frame, seatpost QR, and the thumbshifters. In that quest to 
> make a silk purse of a sow's ear, in about '89 I brazed up a new fork and 
> this stem, which was inspired by the Moulton spaceframe designs: small 
> tubes and triangles. A friend (Paul Atwood of BikeE and Roots-in-the-Sky 
> fame) had given me the SR titanium handlebar, and the stem was designed to 
> match the width of the straight center section of that bar. I don't 
> remember the numbers, but I do recall that the stem ended up slightly 
> lighter than similarly sized stems of the day and the bar and stem 
> combination took literal pounds off the bike, compared to the massive 
> bullmoose bar that was on it. When I ordered the Bombadil in '09, I sent 
> the stem to Rivendell to be painted by D, along with the frame. The good 
> folks at Riv were initially concerned about the strength/reliability of the 
> stem and generously offered me a deal on a Nitto stem in its stead, but 
> when I told them I had been riding it on and off for 20+ years, they 
> (perhaps reluctantly; I'll never know) went ahead and painted it with the 
> Bombadil. The Univega is long gone; given to a friend who turned it into a 
> single speed shop bike, but the stem, handlebar, and those Suntour ratchet 
> shifters live on as one of the three cockpits that I periodically swap in 
> and out of my Bombadil. Over the past year, the Bombadil's primary duty has 
> been in introducing our son Zane to the glorious world of cycling. The 
> attached photo was taken a year ago, on Zane's first ride, at ten months 
> old. Perhaps I'll pass the stem and Bombadil on to him one day...
> Cheers,
> Andrew in Sydney
>
>
>
> On Thursday, September 24, 2020, 03:57:34 AM GMT+10, Alberto Robador <
> arob...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Wow Andrew, can you tell us more about that stem?! Looks rad!
>
> On Tuesday, September 22, 2020 at 9:36:52 PM UTC-7 Andrew Letton wrote:
>
> Looks great, Joe! Enjoy the ride!
>
> One question: are you certain that it is Toyo-built? My 60cm early 2TT 
> Bombadil was built by Waterford. What is the serial number format on yours; 
> that may tell us something. (Mine is L080xx. Built in L=12=December of 
> '08.)  Does anyone else recall the history of when/where the Bombadils were 
> built?
>
> 2009 Rivendell Bombadil 
> 
>
> 2009 Rivendell Bombadil
>
> Explore this photo album by letton on Flickr!
> 
>
> cheers,
> Andrew in Sydney
>
>
> On Wednesday, September 23, 2020, 11:48:08 AM GMT+10, Joe Bernard <
> joer...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> I finally finished it! Its a 52cm Toyo, early parallel-tube version (the 
> one I like). No paint, which was an interesting experience for a notorious 
> paint panicker as I was working. I can't scratch it! 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/zoKtKnW1Bnxoz1qg8
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> Joe Bernard 
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[RBW] Re: Clem L Weight

[Jim Whorton]

For what it's worth, here's the weight of my Clem H, also 59 cm:

36.4 pounds
Mostly stock build (switched the Tallux stem for a shorter Technomic)
Brooks B17 saddle
MSW Pork Chop rear rack (650 grams)
Small Jandd "Bike Bag" with pump, tube, multi tool, etc.

It is not a light bike.


On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 11:16:24 AM UTC-4 97r...@gmail.com wrote:

> I needed to weigh my Clem L for a trailer load/balance exercise. I had 
> trouble finding a reliable weight anywhere, so here it is for future 
> reference. 
>
> 38 lbs 
> Stock 59 cm build
> Brooks B67 saddle
> Pletscher rear rack and kickstand
> AXA Frame lock
> Sackville bar tube bag
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