[RBW] Re: Tubolito Anyone?

[Nick Payne]

I recently purchased and installed a pair of their "touring" tubes in my 
gravel bike. I had been running the tyres on that bike tubeless, but I 
don't ride it all that often, and I found that a) I would get less than 
half a dozen rides in on the bike before I would need to top up the sealant 
because it had mostly evaporated, and b) the infrequent use was causing the 
sealant (Orange Seal) to coagulate at the lowest point of the tyres, making 
them quite unbalanced unless I periodically dismounted them and stripped 
out the solidified pools of sealant.

So far so good with the Tubolito tubes - I haven't ridden them very far, 
but I can't notice a difference (using exactly the same tyres) compared to 
the previous tubeless setup. The tubes are marked as being for tyre sizes 
between 30mm and 47mm - I have them in 38mm tyres. I bought them from a 
local webstore for $A30 each (that's ~$US21), though I notice that bike24 
are selling them for a bit less than €14 ($US16.50) each: 
https://www.bike24.com/p2312527.html. I also bought a specific patch kit 
for them (haven't had to use it so far), though I notice that the review of 
them on bikerumor.com says that the reviewer bunged on a Park pre-glued 
patch when he did get a puncture, and that held up fine for the last 300 
miles of the test period (
https://bikerumor.com/2018/05/10/trail-tested-tubolito-tubo-lightest-strongest-fastest-inner-tube-century/
).

Nick

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Mark Roland]

What size Susie? That may or may not make some difference. My v-brake arms 
are 107mm. I am running 700 x 2.6" Teravail Honchos on RhynoLite XL rims on 
my size large Susie.  I have about 15mm clearance. The braze-ons are 
well-placed, so that the pads are right near the end of the slots. If I 
were running fenders or 2.8s I would look for brakes with longer arms. 
There is a list somewhere on the internet, but it's getting a bit long in 
the tooth at this point.


On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:26:05 AM UTC-4, igor wrote:
>
> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>
> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Mark Roland]

What size Susie? That may or may not make some difference. My v-brake arms 
are 107mm. Running 2.6 Te
.

On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:26:05 AM UTC-4, igor wrote:
>
> What clears a 2.6? a 2.8?
>
> Additionally - anyone have such variety for sale and also brake levers?
>
> Thanks
>

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[RBW] Tubolito Anyone?

[Corwin]

Hi -

Today walking through REI, I saw an orange plastic-looking tube called 
"Tubolito". I was shocked when I saw the price: $37.95. The Tubolito 
website (http:tubolito.com) claims they are lighter and stronger than other 
tubes.

Personally, I'm not inclined to spend $38 on a tube unless it's the last 
tube I will ever mount on a given wheel. Has anyone on this list has had 
experience with Tubolito tubes? Good? Bad? Unremarkable?

Namaste,

Corwin

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[RBW] WTB: Pink Chris King 1" threaded headset

[Lucky]

Greetings all, as the title says I am looking for a pink 1" threaded Chris 
King Grip Nut headset. Actual pink, not faded red. Please let me know if 
you have one! 

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Re: [RBW] Sam, almost fully dressed

[Joel S]

Thanks Hugh.  

On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 7:23:33 PM UTC-4 Hugh Flynn wrote:

> Now that's a well dressed bike!
>
> Hugh Flynn
> Newburyport, MA
>
> On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 2:10 PM Joel S  wrote:
>
>> I have about finished for now, the saddle is thanks to Ted Fay, not sure 
>> on it yet, will try my champion special again, but not bad and a big things 
>> as it was a gift. Another thanks to Jon Dukeman for nudging me just enough 
>> for me to get the front donut bag which is perfect to carry one or two 
>> small cameras.
>>
>> The rear bag is my new Acorn Small, I also got a large so I could see 
>> which I like best, I think with the Donut bag that small is fine, a bit 
>> bigger than the Rivendell Kevin bag I have been using. The large one is 
>> bigger than the banana bag so I will see how I will like the size. The 
>> workmanship and materials are spectacular. 
>>
>> The bar tape has a third layer around the brake levers due to the 
>> diacompe clamp hitting my hand, not sure how I will resolve this, I may 
>> leave it and I may rewrap ,I have plenty of time to decide. 
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Re: [RBW] Sam, almost fully dressed

[hugh flynn]

Now that's a well dressed bike!

Hugh Flynn
Newburyport, MA

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 2:10 PM Joel S  wrote:

> I have about finished for now, the saddle is thanks to Ted Fay, not sure
> on it yet, will try my champion special again, but not bad and a big things
> as it was a gift. Another thanks to Jon Dukeman for nudging me just enough
> for me to get the front donut bag which is perfect to carry one or two
> small cameras.
>
> The rear bag is my new Acorn Small, I also got a large so I could see
> which I like best, I think with the Donut bag that small is fine, a bit
> bigger than the Rivendell Kevin bag I have been using. The large one is
> bigger than the banana bag so I will see how I will like the size. The
> workmanship and materials are spectacular.
>
> The bar tape has a third layer around the brake levers due to the diacompe
> clamp hitting my hand, not sure how I will resolve this, I may leave it and
> I may rewrap ,I have plenty of time to decide.
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: 56cm Atlantis/ 60cm Cheviot

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hi Eric.  PM sent.  

Dave

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[RBW] Re: In-kind donations for effective cycling advocacy

[Collin A]

Is the goal to supply under-served populations with tools and equipment 
they would otherwise not be able to afford, or to have a more broad impact 
on society's treatment of certain populations? I'm not trying to get 
philosophical, just that the difference between the two will impact whether 
it's better to fund Riv's BRP or something like the ACLU. 

Regardless, selling the parts and donating the funds is the easiest and 
most effective way to go I think. You could always ask Riv if they want the 
old parts I guess?

Good Luck,
Collin in Sacramento

On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 11:46:10 AM UTC-7 Jay Lonner wrote:

> Over the years I have amassed a sizable stash of really nice components 
> that I no longer need - Paul brakes and levers, Nitto stems and handlebars, 
> XTR M900 wheelset, SON dynohub, etc. It's all valuable on the open market, 
> but Riv's BRP has got me thinking about how best to donate it for maximal 
> benefit. My fear is that if I just dropped it all off at my local bike 
> co-op the best stuff will be skimmed by the staff. I've thought of reaching 
> out to Riv directly to see if they could repurpose it for the BRP, but that 
> potentially creates issues they'd rather avoid (liability, not wanting to 
> become a used parts dumping ground, etc.). So I thought I'd poll the nice 
> folks here for some ideas on how to Marie Kondo my parts bin while serving 
> the interests of social justice. It may be that the best move will be to 
> take a page from Peter Singer and sell the stuff outright and then donate 
> the proceeds - in that case stay tuned, since I'll probably list it all 
> here first.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
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Re: [RBW] Re: In-kind donations for effective cycling advocacy

[Sam Perez]

I agree selling the parts then donating the proceeds to a organization of
choice.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020, 12:41 PM Ben Mihovk  wrote:

> I hate thinking the worst about anyone, but I can totally see really nice
> components not making it to the people who the co-op is designed to serve.
> If you donate the components and feel good that you gave someone the
> opportunity to use them appropriately, is that good enough? Is there a way
> for co-ops to be held accountable for how they use donated parts?
>
> I think if it were me, I'd likely sell off the components, go to the Riv
> website, and kick as much as I can into Riv's RBF.
>
> -Ben
>
> On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 1:46:10 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:
>
>> Over the years I have amassed a sizable stash of really nice components
>> that I no longer need - Paul brakes and levers, Nitto stems and handlebars,
>> XTR M900 wheelset, SON dynohub, etc. It's all valuable on the open market,
>> but Riv's BRP has got me thinking about how best to donate it for maximal
>> benefit. My fear is that if I just dropped it all off at my local bike
>> co-op the best stuff will be skimmed by the staff. I've thought of reaching
>> out to Riv directly to see if they could repurpose it for the BRP, but that
>> potentially creates issues they'd rather avoid (liability, not wanting to
>> become a used parts dumping ground, etc.). So I thought I'd poll the nice
>> folks here for some ideas on how to Marie Kondo my parts bin while serving
>> the interests of social justice. It may be that the best move will be to
>> take a page from Peter Singer and sell the stuff outright and then donate
>> the proceeds - in that case stay tuned, since I'll probably list it all
>> here first.
>>
>> Jay Lonner
>> Bellingham, WA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Wheelset for Joe Appaloosa

[River Bailey]

Thanks everyone for the advice and suggestions. I'm thinking this route may 
be just the ticket...
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/wheels/products/velocity-cliffhanger-shimano-xt-shimano-3n72-dyno-36-hole-wheelset-bto



On Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 11:19:59 AM UTC-4 River Bailey wrote:

> Thanks, Joe. Good options/advice.
>
> On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 9:24:55 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Hi River,
>>
>> Rich @ Riv built a really nice Atlas set with WI hubs for my custom. 
>> Pricey, but you could do a dyno front and Shimano rear for less money with 
>> the same rims. He can be reached at Rich @ rivbike . com. 
>>
>> On Monday, October 12, 2020 at 5:55:03 PM UTC-7 River Bailey wrote:
>>
>>> Looking for advice on upgrading my wheelset. Just built my JA with the 
>>> Velocity-Built Budget Alex. Looking to run a Dyno front light sooo? The 
>>> Velocity-Built Riv standard Atlas seems like a good solution but they're 
>>> sold out. 
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_4178.jpg]
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: In-kind donations for effective cycling advocacy

[Ben Mihovk]

I hate thinking the worst about anyone, but I can totally see really nice 
components not making it to the people who the co-op is designed to serve. 
If you donate the components and feel good that you gave someone the 
opportunity to use them appropriately, is that good enough? Is there a way 
for co-ops to be held accountable for how they use donated parts? 

I think if it were me, I'd likely sell off the components, go to the Riv 
website, and kick as much as I can into Riv's RBF. 

-Ben

On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 1:46:10 PM UTC-5 Jay Lonner wrote:

> Over the years I have amassed a sizable stash of really nice components 
> that I no longer need - Paul brakes and levers, Nitto stems and handlebars, 
> XTR M900 wheelset, SON dynohub, etc. It's all valuable on the open market, 
> but Riv's BRP has got me thinking about how best to donate it for maximal 
> benefit. My fear is that if I just dropped it all off at my local bike 
> co-op the best stuff will be skimmed by the staff. I've thought of reaching 
> out to Riv directly to see if they could repurpose it for the BRP, but that 
> potentially creates issues they'd rather avoid (liability, not wanting to 
> become a used parts dumping ground, etc.). So I thought I'd poll the nice 
> folks here for some ideas on how to Marie Kondo my parts bin while serving 
> the interests of social justice. It may be that the best move will be to 
> take a page from Peter Singer and sell the stuff outright and then donate 
> the proceeds - in that case stay tuned, since I'll probably list it all 
> here first.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>

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Re: [RBW] In-kind donations for effective cycling advocacy

[Benjamin L. Kelley]

Always a tricky thing.  The bike charity co-op in NYC that I dropped parts
off at before moving back to KC, they would go through more desirable parts
and sell online or in their retail location with funds going to the
operation. So maybe just looking for the right co-op that does that sort of
thing is an answer, or put that stipulation on your donation?
I've also seen people who will sell items at market value or maybe below
and denote that proceeds are going to charity, kinda like a bake sale.
I'm personally fond of that approach and will be doing with some odd and
ends later in the year.
You could also offer up on a forum and state that the buyer can donate the
dollar amount of their item to a list of charities and provide proof, then
you can provide them the item.  I use a software product that the owner
calls charityware, where you can only obtain a license for the product by
providing a receipt to a charity of your choice.  I've also seen raffles
done recently like this.

--ben in KC.

On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 1:46 PM Jay Lonner  wrote:

> Over the years I have amassed a sizable stash of really nice components
> that I no longer need - Paul brakes and levers, Nitto stems and handlebars,
> XTR M900 wheelset, SON dynohub, etc. It's all valuable on the open market,
> but Riv's BRP has got me thinking about how best to donate it for maximal
> benefit. My fear is that if I just dropped it all off at my local bike
> co-op the best stuff will be skimmed by the staff. I've thought of reaching
> out to Riv directly to see if they could repurpose it for the BRP, but that
> potentially creates issues they'd rather avoid (liability, not wanting to
> become a used parts dumping ground, etc.). So I thought I'd poll the nice
> folks here for some ideas on how to Marie Kondo my parts bin while serving
> the interests of social justice. It may be that the best move will be to
> take a page from Peter Singer and sell the stuff outright and then donate
> the proceeds - in that case stay tuned, since I'll probably list it all
> here first.
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sam Hillborne 57/58 cm

[Jeffery S]

PM sent

On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 8:28:45 AM UTC-6 Todd G. wrote:

> Figured I would give this a little bump since Rivendell should be getting 
> these back in stock toward the end of the month...or so I’m told. If you’re 
> contemplating a new project and you’re on the one in, one out plan as I am 
> currently, reach out and lets talk. Thanks!
> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 6:06:20 PM UTC-7 Todd G. wrote:
>
>> Thank you for the heads up! My only real reason for pause is that I think 
>> I would prefer the cantilever version. Really for no other reason than 
>> affording myself a little more flexibility in tire size. I mentioned in my 
>> original post that I want to run a 38, 42 or up to a 44, maybe a 48c 
>> tire. I’m pretty confident that the 44/48 tire option would be maxing out 
>> any medium reach caliper. I actually meant to include that most of my 
>> interest was in a canti version, but it kind of slipped my mind.
>>
>> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 8:37:00 AM UTC-7 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>>
>>> Just noticed a Sam on eBay that might meet what your looking for: 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-lugged-steel-frame-for-sidepull-centerpull-brakes-56cm/254732548175?hash=item3b4f3e384f:g:DLIAAOSwQSBfckIE
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 2:17:12 PM UTC-4 Todd G. wrote:
>>>

 Hi all,

 I’ve been lurking around the group for a while and have very much been 
 enjoying all the great content. I’m working on consolidating my stable a 
 bit. Too much overlap between bikes, and I also have a custom 
 Allroad/Randonneur coming sometime around February of 2021. I’m not beyond 
 waiting for Riv to get the SH back in stock in October, but figured I 
 would 
 test the waters here prior to see what may be available.

 I really like the orange/burnt orange with the cream headtube, the 
 black/cream, Sage and Porsche green versions. It will probably alternate 
 between Nitto Albatross bars or Noodles with a front basket, with 38 or 
 43/44c tires, depending on what type of riding I’m going to be doing.

 If you have something that fits the bill, please reach out and lets 
 talk. 

 Cheers!





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[RBW] In-kind donations for effective cycling advocacy

[Jay Lonner]

Over the years I have amassed a sizable stash of really nice components 
that I no longer need - Paul brakes and levers, Nitto stems and handlebars, 
XTR M900 wheelset, SON dynohub, etc. It's all valuable on the open market, 
but Riv's BRP has got me thinking about how best to donate it for maximal 
benefit. My fear is that if I just dropped it all off at my local bike 
co-op the best stuff will be skimmed by the staff. I've thought of reaching 
out to Riv directly to see if they could repurpose it for the BRP, but that 
potentially creates issues they'd rather avoid (liability, not wanting to 
become a used parts dumping ground, etc.). So I thought I'd poll the nice 
folks here for some ideas on how to Marie Kondo my parts bin while serving 
the interests of social justice. It may be that the best move will be to 
take a page from Peter Singer and sell the stuff outright and then donate 
the proceeds - in that case stay tuned, since I'll probably list it all 
here first.

Jay Lonner
Bellingham, WA

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[RBW] Re: Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[Drew Saunders]

Many years ago, I decided to try my hand at building my own wheels. Armed 
with a copy of Jobst Brandt's "The Bicycle Wheel," rims and spokes from 
Wheelsmith, I did manage to make a build a pair of wheels. The front was OK 
(until I crashed and bent it beyond repair), the rear wasn't a very usable 
wheel. I learned two things from my experience:

1: I will happily pay a professional to build my wheels. 

2: How to better true and maintain my wheels, which has been invaluable 
knowledge.

When I picked up a pair of clearance wheels from Supergo, armed with my 
knowledge of how incomplete machine-build wheels are, I followed the final 
tensioning (heavy gloves, lots of squeezing and flattening etc.) and truing 
instructions from Jobst's book and turned cheap off-the-rack wheels into 
quite good ones. They lasted for many years until a spoke pulled through 
the rear rim, and the front would still be going strong if I hadn't bought 
a Velocity-built pair from Riv to replace them. 

Go for it, at the very least, you'll have a better appreciation for what 
goes into building wheels, whether they're well built or poorly built.

Drew

On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 8:25:58 AM UTC-7 Steven Seelig wrote:

> So with COVID and all, I've decided that now is the time to do stuff that 
> I haven't ever done before.  Learning to speak French is perhaps a bridge 
> too far - not so good at language.  But it seems reasonable to think that I 
> can at least build a front wheel with a Dyno hub to put on the Sam I ride 
> in the means streets of DC and on some gravel.  
>
> I have a truing stand but not a dishing tool.  I would say I am a 
> competent wrencher.  Of course anyone who has built up a wheel did it once 
> for the first time.  Is this something I should take on?  What are the odds 
> for success?  Will I quit in frustration?
>
> Points of view encouraged.
>

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[RBW] WTB: 56cm Atlantis/ 60cm Cheviot

[EGNolan]

Hi all, 
I'm on the hunt for a 26" wheeled 56cm Atlantis (could also do a newer 55 
or so) or a 60cm Cheviot. I'd prefer complete (and I'm comfortable changing 
out parts to suit my preferences) but would entertain frame/fork combos as 
well. Lemme know whatcha got and whatcha want.

I'm currently riding a 57cm Roadini that just doesn't have enough standover 
(though on the bike fit is pretty perfect) and would definitely be willing 
to do a partial trade for it or sell it out right if that makes sense for 
someone. 

Best,
Eric N
Indpls, IN

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[RBW] Re: Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[Garth]

Oh my yes Paul !   It was my error  one of those deals where the hands 
don't quite follow the image of mind !  

I like his easy going manner and such. 


On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-4, Paul in Dallas wrote:
>
> Garth, did you mean Jim Langley for the YouTube wheel building video and 
> perhaps auto correct screwed ut up?
>
> I could not find a Jim Land wheel building video but found this Jim 
> Langley one.
>
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XUqul03hbZ8
>
>
> ...
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Shimano Sora 2x9 setup for Clem Build

[Brendan McLaughlin]

Also open to any drivetrain groupsets people might be looking to get rid 
of. Thanks.

On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 11:23:03 AM UTC-4 Brendan McLaughlin wrote:

> I'm working with my local shop on putting a 59cm Clem H together and we're 
> having trouble acquiring these parts new. 
>
> Would want the setup to include: thumbie shifters, crank, and front and 
> rear derailleur. 
>
> Any leads appreciated. My email is btm...@gmail.com
>
> Thanks!
> Brendan
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Sam Hillborne 57/58 cm

[Todd G.]

Figured I would give this a little bump since Rivendell should be getting 
these back in stock toward the end of the month...or so I’m told. If you’re 
contemplating a new project and you’re on the one in, one out plan as I am 
currently, reach out and lets talk. Thanks!
On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 6:06:20 PM UTC-7 Todd G. wrote:

> Thank you for the heads up! My only real reason for pause is that I think 
> I would prefer the cantilever version. Really for no other reason than 
> affording myself a little more flexibility in tire size. I mentioned in my 
> original post that I want to run a 38, 42 or up to a 44, maybe a 48c 
> tire. I’m pretty confident that the 44/48 tire option would be maxing out 
> any medium reach caliper. I actually meant to include that most of my 
> interest was in a canti version, but it kind of slipped my mind.
>
> On Friday, October 2, 2020 at 8:37:00 AM UTC-7 greenteadrinkers wrote:
>
>> Just noticed a Sam on eBay that might meet what your looking for: 
>>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Sam-Hillborne-lugged-steel-frame-for-sidepull-centerpull-brakes-56cm/254732548175?hash=item3b4f3e384f:g:DLIAAOSwQSBfckIE
>>
>> On Wednesday, September 30, 2020 at 2:17:12 PM UTC-4 Todd G. wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I’ve been lurking around the group for a while and have very much been 
>>> enjoying all the great content. I’m working on consolidating my stable a 
>>> bit. Too much overlap between bikes, and I also have a custom 
>>> Allroad/Randonneur coming sometime around February of 2021. I’m not beyond 
>>> waiting for Riv to get the SH back in stock in October, but figured I would 
>>> test the waters here prior to see what may be available.
>>>
>>> I really like the orange/burnt orange with the cream headtube, the 
>>> black/cream, Sage and Porsche green versions. It will probably alternate 
>>> between Nitto Albatross bars or Noodles with a front basket, with 38 or 
>>> 43/44c tires, depending on what type of riding I’m going to be doing.
>>>
>>> If you have something that fits the bill, please reach out and lets 
>>> talk. 
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[tuolumne bikes]

Steven, the list members seem to have a hard time following instructions. 
Don't build your own wheels.

I have built two sets of wheels using the bikes as truing stands with blue 
masking tape across the seat stays/fork as a guide. Make sharpie marks on 
the tape as needed, and flip the wheels. I also used YouTube, an online 
spoke length calculator, a Phillips bit with one set of the fins ground 
off, a cordless drill, and a spoke wrench. Any competent professional could 
tell you my wheels suck, and building would certainly go faster with better 
tools and training. I've used them for five years without problems beyond 
the occasional truing that all wheels need. If you're planning on extended 
touring, have more money than time and aptitude, or are a bike abuser have 
a pro make some bombproof wheels.

Carl

 
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 6:18:56 AM UTC-7 Paul in Dallas wrote:

> Garth, did you mean Jim Langley for the YouTube wheel building video and 
> perhaps auto correct screwed ut up?
>
> I could not find a Jim Land wheel building video but found this Jim 
> Langley one.
>
> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XUqul03hbZ8
>
>
> ...
> Garth wrote,
> " Jim Land on youtube has the best video of building/truing wheels I've 
> seen, his way is presentation is very easy going and more intuitive than 
> all the books that I once read, and hated."
> ..
>
> Thanks for this thread and all who contributed. 
> I'm another who has been on the fence about giving it a try. Perhaps this 
> will get me motivated as well.
>
> Paul in Dallas 
>

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[RBW] Re: 60cm Green Quickbeam, 62cm Orange Quickbeam FS

[jamison brosseau]

I agree with Eamon, Coleman has shifted the green a bit.  I am willing to 
cover shipping the shipping on either of these bikes at the prices listed 
above, and open to reasonable offers.

On Monday, October 19, 2020 at 12:57:02 AM UTC-4 Eamon Nordquist wrote:

> Depends on the era of Coleman. My older Coleman stove and lantern are (and 
> always were) a much less blue shade of green than newer ones.
>
> Eamon
> Seattle 
>

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[RBW] Re: What v-brakes for Susie?

[Ash]

For a couple of weeks I had used Avid single digit 7 v-brakes, with 
650bx2.15 Almotion tires.  Felt like there was just enough room for 
fenders.  Hence these brakes *won't* be an option for those wider tires you 
want to use.

 Now I'm running Avid Shorty Ultimate cantis.


On Monday, 19 October 2020 at 21:21:02 UTC-7 Daniel M wrote:

> Igor,
>
> Not sure if you've seen this but if it were me, I'd get the longest arms I 
> could find. Looks like 110mm is easy to find and there is one Tektro model 
> at 120mm:
>
> https://www.gravelbike.com/v-brake-arm-lengths/
>
> Daniel M
> Berkeley, CA
>

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[RBW] Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[True Golden]

Garth, did you mean Jim Langley for the YouTube wheel building video and 
perhaps auto correct screwed ut up?

I could not find a Jim Land wheel building video but found this Jim Langley one.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XUqul03hbZ8


...
Garth wrote,
" Jim Land on youtube has the best video of building/truing wheels I've seen, 
his way is presentation is very easy going and more intuitive than all the 
books that I once read, and hated."
..

Thanks for this thread and all who contributed.
I'm another who has been on the fence about giving it a try. Perhaps this will 
get me motivated as well.

Paul in Dallas

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[RBW] Re: Want to Buy or Trade for Brown Riv back o bike bags (set) and Steiner headset tool

[Mark Roland]

Thanks Garth. I guess that's an option, but I don't want to do an 
"end-around" on Rivendell (though it seems they are not having an issue 
selling them!) I imagine Jim is busy building the next batch for Riv, and 
if everyone contacted him directly whenever Riv got sold out... we'll see. 
I'll give Rivendell a call and see if they have an ETA for the next batch.

On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 2:38:45 AM UTC-4, Garth wrote:
>
>
>
> For the headset tool I'd simply contact Jim Stein on his website 
> https://www.steintool.com/contact/ . While it's not shown that doesn't 
> matter, everyone has things for sale "off the menu" so to speak.  
>

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[RBW] Re: Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[R. Alexis]

Steven,

Go for it!

I have built, rebuilt and trued up and redished many a wheel. Built my 
first wheelset using Wilderness Trail Bikes Classic Grease Guard freewheel 
hubs with Mavic 217, 26" rims for my 1991 Bridgestone MB-0(Zip) frameset. I 
worked at a bike shop at the time so I had The Bicycle Wheel book, 
Wheelsmith spoke calculator, Phil Wood spoke cutter, truing stand, dishing 
took and wrenches available along with the shop manager, who was a well 
accomplished wheel builder. I built the wheel at the shop when I had time. 

Since that time I have built several wheels along with several rim and one 
hub transplant. I am meticulous. I got my own Park truing stand, dishing 
tool, ended up purchasing the Wheelsmith spoke calculator set and Phil Wood 
spoke cutter, that I sold. Also bought The Bicycle Wheel book and read it 
from cover to cover. 

All the wheels that I have built seem to hold up. The rim transplant ones 
have ended up on bikes I sold. They seem to be working well. The hub 
transplant was a 36 hole SunTour Superbe Pro freewheel that replaced a 
Suntour XC-Comp cassette hub on a Araya VX-400(?) . The dimensions on the 
hubs were close and I spaced the freewheel hub to 132.5mm OLD to offer 
versatility,  

Currently I have one wheelset to build and two others I plan on replacing 
the alloy nipples with brass. Will probably get around to that this fall or 
winter. 

Hope this helps.

Reginald Alexis

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[RBW] Re: Want to Buy or Trade for Brown Riv back o bike bags (set) and Steiner headset tool

[Garth]

For the headset tool I'd simply contact Jim Stein on his website 
https://www.steintool.com/contact/ . While it's not shown that doesn't 
matter, everyone has things for sale "off the menu" so to speak.  

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[RBW] Re: Talk Me Out of Building My Own Wheels

[Justin]

Just poking in to say that this is a great post. I've been wanting to build 
my first wheelset for a couple of years, and after trying to save a buck 
buying two 2nd hand wheelsets from the Owners Bunch, both of which had 
issues right from the start I done with that mess. I just need to breakdown 
and start building. So thanks everyone for chiming in with envouragement 
and your experience. 

On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 12:04:55 AM UTC-4 Daniel M wrote:

> Piling on in favor of your building your own wheel. I bought Jobst 
> Brandt's book and read it cover to cover twice before building my own 
> wheel. The first half of the book is theory, the second is practice. You 
> could easily skip straight to the instructions, and if you follow them 
> carefully you will end up with a properly laced and tensioned wheel. Only 
> drawback is that Jobst doesn't reply to email anymore...
>
> I've now built six wheels: 2 dyno, 3 Rohloff, and one fixed, so nothing 
> with extreme dish. I have beaten the first four of those to hell off road, 
> touring, and off-road touring. It's been a great experience. I did buy a 
> used truing stand, dishing tool, tensiometer and spoke wrenches from a 
> mechanic before I started, but I could just as easily do it in the frame of 
> a bike with a guitar pick. Anything you build carefully is likely to be 
> better than a factory-built wheel that hasn't been touched up by a 
> professional, which people buy and ride all the time.
>
> You won't regret it!
>
> Daniel M
> Berkeley, CA
>

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