[RBW] Re: Plenty of clearance under Medium Saddlesack

[Earls61]

Nice! What kind of saddle is that? Did you have to add bag loops?

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Re: [RBW] Clem L... Awesome Handicapped Edition !!

[Patrick Moore]

It looks good, whatever it is, and I say this as someone who usually
dislikes a lot of quill showing.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 3:49 PM Paul Budnitz  wrote:

> Hi Patrick!
>
> Thanks!! Yeah I kind of like it as a chopped-out Clem.
>
> The stem was on eBay. Just search for "tall quill stem" and keep searching
> and you'll find it. Took about 3 weeks to get here, seems to be solid
> steel. :0) Cheap from China I think!
>
> Paul
>
> On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 1:30:50 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I'm glad you found a solution, and an elegant one.
>>
>> What it the world is that stem? It actually looks perfect on that bike,
>> even though I think tall quills, at least on road bikes, detract from the
>> bikes' visual harmony. On this bike, it looks normal and even proprotional.
>> It certainly looks better than "ape hanger" bars.
>>
>> But what is make and model?
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 11:10 PM Paul Budnitz 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Everyone.
>>>
>>> I promised Grant a photo of the Clem L I built up for my wife, and
>>> figured I'd post it here too.
>>>
>>> She's handicapped due to a genetic inflammation in her joints, and can
>>> only deal with very limited weight on her forearms and wrists. We've
>>> struggled for years to sort out a decent bike for her, the problem being
>>> that almost all new bikes use treadless stems, and have limited bar height
>>> and adjustability.
>>>
>>> Here's a picture of her Clem with the highest and shortest stem I could
>>> find, plus Boscos. This is the first bike she's been able to enjoy riding
>>> in ten years!!
>>>
>>> Oddly it kind of reminds me of a chopper Schwinn I had as a teenager,
>>> but grown up.
>>>
>>> Go Rivendell!! 
>>>
>>> Love,
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1237.jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: Plenty of clearance under Medium Saddlesack

[Patrick Moore]

Should have added that the large side pockets very usefully hold a rather
generous took kit and wayside stuff (musette, sealant mess rag, med Road
Drive, saddle cover, plus tools) on the right and on the left a Schwalbe
559/584 X 40 mm tube containing generous portion of Airlock (tube doesn't
fold small with the ~3 fl oz or so inside), all of which which usually (ie
when I have a rear rack) go into a largish Ruthworks seat pack.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 11:28 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Forgive the unappealing background, but it's 11:20 pm, I just finished a
> resume, and it's very dark, but I wanted to post the clearance over the
> 42-labeled, 40-actual tires *and* 50 mm VO fenders: no rack needed!
>
> And this is odd and a difference from the one I owned back circa 2013:
> that one, also a Medium Saddlesack, barely cleared the 32 mm tires without
> fenders. Granted, that one is stuffed to the metaphorical gills, but even
> when empty there wasn't the clearance of the new one.
>
> Not that I'm complaining! This fits perfectly, per my criteria.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[James Warren]

Big Ben 50’s under sidepull brakes on a Hillborne. That is absolutely the 
limit. But it worked and rode great.

This is on a 2TT greyish blue 62 cm frame bought in 2014.

-Jimmy

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
> 
> I’ve seen the limit listed as 47-48mm without fenders on the Riv site but I 
> suspect some of you have pushed the limits. 
> How fat did you go?
> 
> Thank you 
> Ray
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[RBW] Re: Bike of the Month: Sam Hillborne

[Nathan Mattia]

I think the reason people are so excited about the Hillborne’s is that they 
resemble something of a more mainstream bike.  I realize it’s not entirely 
true, but it seems like for several months, the only bikes you could buy 
from Riv had insanely long chain stays or were all step-thru mixtes.  
I know that a Gallop or a Platypus may inevitably be in my future, but 
people dig more traditional bikes as well.  
I’m a bit surprised the middle sizes are sold out so quickly.  

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 4:34:23 PM UTC-6, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I think I recently read in some form of Rivendell communication or 
> another, that Riv will be getting new shipments of bicycles monthly for the 
> next several months - starting now. I love this for several reasons. 
>
> 1. Rivendell is making money. 
> 2. People are having New Bike Day. 
> 3. New Rivendells are arguably the best topic we have on this List. 
>
> I think it would be fun to start a thread specific to these new bikes and 
> see who is getting what. Maybe it’s for you. Maybe it’s a Christmas gift 
> for your spouse or your kiddo. Today, the dark gold and Rivendell blue Sams 
> were up for grabs. I would love to celebrate with you if you ordered one 
> and care to mention it here. 
>
> I don’t know what number of frames Rivendell started with, but there were 
> only a handful left on the site a couple of hours ago. Congratulations if 
> you are a proud new owner! 
> Leah

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne vintage

[James Warren]

Your Sam is from batch of orange when the head tube was not cream. It was the 
second color since Sams first came out.

And your Sam’s vintage is excellent. I used to have one until I replaced it 
with a newer Sam frame!



> On Nov 5, 2020, at 5:32 AM, Randall Rupp  wrote:
> 
> I have a Sam Hillborne that I got through this list sometime 2012, it's 
> orange with side pull brakes, but the headtube is not filled in with the 
> cream color like all the other one's I've seen.  It's just orange like the 
> rest of the bike.  Was that a one batch mistake or were the early ones 
> produced that way?
> 
>  
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[RBW] How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[Ray Varella]

I’ve seen the limit listed as 47-48mm without fenders on the Riv site but I 
suspect some of you have pushed the limits. 
How fat did you go?

Thank you 
Ray

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Nitto swept back bars

[diekaiser]

Thanks Leah. I actually think that's the one bar that would be a bit too 
much 'rise' for me. But I do very much appreciate the offer!

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 4:21:23 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Hi, I have a pair of Bosco Bullmoose (so, stem included as the bar and 
> stem are all one piece). It will be expensive to ship because it’s nearly 
> impossible to find a box. Because of the dimensions, expect like $45 to 
> ship. (Ask me how I know...)

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike of the Month: Sam Hillborne

[Leah Peterson]

Oh, these are my favorite stories. The long wait. Dreaming. Planning. Saving. 
It’s so satisfying when that person gets their Rivendell. I love the rainbow 
Atlantis; so much character.

I wonder if Riv knows that so many of you new buyers made your purchases after 
Russ’ review? I’m going to email them; this is really useful information.

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 6, 2020, at 7:27 AM, Ben Mihovk  wrote:
> 
> I'm also a new Riv owner as of late September after REALLY wanting one since 
> about 2006. Like others, I Riv'd up a less expensive bike to scratch the itch 
> and it was also the PLP videos about the Sam that pushed me over the edge. I 
> had been saving up money from my summer job VERY aggressively to purchase a 
> Rivendell and had planned on waiting until my 40th birthday in May of 2021. 
> But Russ's video dropped in early August, I started calling and e-mailing 
> questions about which frame is best for me, and had an order placed before 
> the end of the month. Absolutely zero regrets. The quality of the build and 
> components (still blown away at the difference between a nice wheel set and 
> what comes on a complete bike from a web order company) in conjunction with a 
> frame that actually fits me has been an eye-opening experience. 
> 
> I was a little worried about the Sams being released and kicking myself for 
> going with an Atlantis just because my size was available when I was ready to 
> buy. However, as much as I love the color and look of the Sam, their 
> suggestion of 220 being a cut off for the bike makes me glad I did not wait. 
> I'm at their recommended weight max and I carry a good 10lbs of stuff with me 
> without even trying on my daily commute. Plus, Russian Sub green and a 
> rainbow double top tube on the 59cm blows away everything else! 
> 
> I'm VERY happy to see frames getting snapped up and Rivendell staying busy. 
> I'm also glad I bought my bike when I did...I'm guessing turnaround times 
> will be a little slow with all the Sams that got snapped up. Anyone doing a 
> full Rivendell build and get a time quote? 
> 
> Ben
> 
>> On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 8:08:04 AM UTC-6 Joel S wrote:
>> The Sam Hillborne is a shorter chainstay not racer boy influenced.  There 
>> are some of us that like the shorted chain stays.  I got nervous when I 
>> heard that many 51cm bikes were promised I believe to BlueLug and hopped on 
>> a NEW leftover from the 2019 release that I found.  Glad I did even though 
>> the Orange would not have been my first choice.  Love the blue but I have 
>> had many Riv blue bikes.  The darl gold is growing on me.  Congrats to all 
>> who were able to get the size and color you wanted, the Sam is a great bike. 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 10:37:32 PM UTC-5, velomann wrote:
>>> Also, I know Russ and Laura from their PDX days and am a Patreon supporter 
>>> of Path Less Pedaled. Russ' review (and subsequent purchase) of the Sam 
>>> also heavily influenced my purchase. So I agree that Riv's relationship 
>>> with PLP is a win-win.
>>> MM
>>> 
 On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:31:00 PM UTC-8 velomann wrote:
  "Did Riv send yours to Golden Pliers before the open sale or is yours 
 being
 shipped out with everyone else's? I hope it's the former and you get it by
 this weekend!"
 
 Golden Pliers doesn't have it yet but last weekend said "very soon" so I'm 
 assuming it's being prepped/shipped with the rest at HQ, though I'm hoping 
 I'm near the front of the queue ;-)
 Mike M
 
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 5:57:11 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
> Tracy and Mike,
> 
> It is so exciting to see new Riv owners.  I'm new-ish (3 years) and I 
> couldn't believe how great the ride was when I first hopped on.  I expect 
> you'll have the same great experience.  I'm looking forward to your ride 
> reports.
> 
> Mike, 
> 
> Did Riv send yours to Golden Pliers before the open sale or is yours 
> being shipped out with everyone else's?  I hope it's the former and you 
> get it by this weekend!
> 
> Roberta
> 
>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 8:50:55 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>> Wow, Mike, you really planned for this one! It felt like these Sams 
>> snuck up on the rest of us, but not YOU. You saw them coming on the 
>> horizon months ago!  I’m so happy you got the size and color you wanted 
>> and that you are getting your very first Rivendell. Just you wait, what 
>> a snob it will make of you. Nothing else will be as good or as worth 
>> riding...that’s what happened to me, anyway.
>> 
>> And Tracy! Good for you; you will notice there’s a difference between 
>> old and new Riv geo. My Betty Foy was a way different ride than my long 
>> chainstay Clementine. You’ll have two really great bikes so you can ride 
>> whatever flavor you crave. I hope Rivendell 

Re: [RBW] Re: Bike of the Month: Sam Hillborne

[Leah Peterson]

Jason, it’s funny how one Rivendell turns plural. My husband thought I was 
crazy for wanting the expensive Betty Foy, but I swore I would take it to my 
grave and never need another bike ever ever ever again! And, now there are 4 
Rivendells in the garage (but only 2 are mine, and 3/4 of them are Clems  So 
there.)

You asked about what’s coming next... I dug this out from Rivendell’s IG: 


Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 5, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
> 
> Funny, I bought my Hillborne a year ago today (happy birthday, Sam!), which 
> was my first Rivendell.  I know, hard to believe since I have three now.  
> Anyways I actually made the jump after a couple years of idle consideration 
> largely because I thought the last batch was going to be the final batch 
> ever. Sort of funny now but nonetheless I'm glad I thought that, because I've 
> never owned a bike I've been as happy with as the Hillborne.  I've also put 
> just under 2900 km on it in this first year, which is huge mileage for me, 
> and a good indicator of how much I like the bike.  I hope to put 50,000+ km 
> on it in my lifetime. 
> 
> I'm forgetting some of what's upcoming already!  I know Platypus are next 
> (for the plebs, not Leah) and I know Appaloosa and Gus / Susie are somewhere 
> on the horizon? I plan to sell my Clem Smith and XO-2 probably in the coming 
> months, so who knows, by the time the Charlie H Gallup rolls (er, trots) into 
> town I might even have a spot for it. Probably not though haha.  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sackville quality

[Patrick Moore]

True about sourcing, and the leather and canvas are fine, if not as good as
before. At any rate, once again, I am happy. I ought never to have sold my
first one. I *will *keep this one!

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:01 PM Mark Roland  wrote:

> The material sourcing probably changed, almost inevitable over time these
> days. Also, there are significant variations in the canvas "feel" based on
> color. This was noted some time ago either on the blagh or in the
> descriptions. The blue was stiffest, the gray (not the light grid gray) was
> floppiest. Brown and olive at the time were in the middle somewhere. No
> idea where it all stands now. I imagine the leather will get more supple
> with use, and it will all be fine.
>
> On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>> Thinking more clearly, I have to say that my perception is right. Much
>> more recently, about 2 years ago, I owned and used well a second hand,
>> first-gen Large Saddlesack, and yes, I recall the the canvas being thicker
>> and the straps being more supple; no "rough graininess" on the straps that
>> cinch flap to bottom buckles.
>>
>> FWIW, I've used all varieties of Carridice Nelsons, Campers, and Juniors,
>> and I've used Adam and Hoos Baggins, not to mention other makers' bags, so
>> I have a fair overview of leather and canvas types for saddlebags.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 3:45 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>>
>>> I just got a very good deal on an unused, recent-vintage Sackville
>>> Saddlesack Medium, and I'm quite happy with it, but having owned and
>>> extensively used one some 6-7 years ago before I shortsightedly sold it, I
>>> compared the new one as observed with the old one as in memory, but with
>>> pretty distinct memories, and I have to ask if the later ones were as good
>>> as the originals? From what I recall, the leather straps are very certainly
>>> not as good as before, and the material, while nice, is thinner. Again,
>>> observing the late one, distinct memories of the original one.
>>>
>>> Again, I'm not complaining because the price was very right (and the
>>> seller was very prompt; many thanks). But I'd have to judge that the
>>> quality of canvas and leather is less now than before.
>>>
>>> Do others see this?
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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[RBW] WTB: Nitto swept back bars

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Hi, I have a pair of Bosco Bullmoose (so, stem included as the bar and stem are 
all one piece). It will be expensive to ship because it’s nearly impossible to 
find a box. Because of the dimensions, expect like $45 to ship. (Ask me how I 
know...)

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vintage

[RichS]

Another note on head tube color schemes: the 2014 sage green Sams were 
available with either two color or single color ht. 

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 12:41:51 PM UTC-5 Dave Small wrote:

> Randall,
>
> I'm pretty sure the bike you describe was their second batch, the first 
> one being green with gold decals.  Both of those batches were single-color, 
> so no cream head tubes.  
>
> Dave
> Boston/Indy
>
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 5:49:41 PM UTC-5, Randall Rupp wrote:
>>
>> I have a Sam Hillborne that I got through this list sometime 2012, it's 
>> orange with side pull brakes, but the headtube is not filled in with the 
>> cream color like all the other one's I've seen.  It's just orange like the 
>> rest of the bike.  Was that a one batch mistake or were the early ones 
>> produced that way?
>>
>>  
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sackville quality

[Mark Roland]

The material sourcing probably changed, almost inevitable over time these 
days. Also, there are significant variations in the canvas "feel" based on 
color. This was noted some time ago either on the blagh or in the 
descriptions. The blue was stiffest, the gray (not the light grid gray) was 
floppiest. Brown and olive at the time were in the middle somewhere. No 
idea where it all stands now. I imagine the leather will get more supple 
with use, and it will all be fine.

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 5:50:53 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thinking more clearly, I have to say that my perception is right. Much 
> more recently, about 2 years ago, I owned and used well a second hand, 
> first-gen Large Saddlesack, and yes, I recall the the canvas being thicker 
> and the straps being more supple; no "rough graininess" on the straps that 
> cinch flap to bottom buckles.
>
> FWIW, I've used all varieties of Carridice Nelsons, Campers, and Juniors, 
> and I've used Adam and Hoos Baggins, not to mention other makers' bags, so 
> I have a fair overview of leather and canvas types for saddlebags.
>
> On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 3:45 PM Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> I just got a very good deal on an unused, recent-vintage Sackville 
>> Saddlesack Medium, and I'm quite happy with it, but having owned and 
>> extensively used one some 6-7 years ago before I shortsightedly sold it, I 
>> compared the new one as observed with the old one as in memory, but with 
>> pretty distinct memories, and I have to ask if the later ones were as good 
>> as the originals? From what I recall, the leather straps are very certainly 
>> not as good as before, and the material, while nice, is thinner. Again, 
>> observing the late one, distinct memories of the original one.
>>
>> Again, I'm not complaining because the price was very right (and the 
>> seller was very prompt; many thanks). But I'd have to judge that the 
>> quality of canvas and leather is less now than before.
>>
>> Do others see this?
>>
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[RBW] Re: Sackville quality

[Patrick Moore]

Thinking more clearly, I have to say that my perception is right. Much more
recently, about 2 years ago, I owned and used well a second hand, first-gen
Large Saddlesack, and yes, I recall the the canvas being thicker and the
straps being more supple; no "rough graininess" on the straps that cinch
flap to bottom buckles.

FWIW, I've used all varieties of Carridice Nelsons, Campers, and Juniors,
and I've used Adam and Hoos Baggins, not to mention other makers' bags, so
I have a fair overview of leather and canvas types for saddlebags.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 3:45 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I just got a very good deal on an unused, recent-vintage Sackville
> Saddlesack Medium, and I'm quite happy with it, but having owned and
> extensively used one some 6-7 years ago before I shortsightedly sold it, I
> compared the new one as observed with the old one as in memory, but with
> pretty distinct memories, and I have to ask if the later ones were as good
> as the originals? From what I recall, the leather straps are very certainly
> not as good as before, and the material, while nice, is thinner. Again,
> observing the late one, distinct memories of the original one.
>
> Again, I'm not complaining because the price was very right (and the
> seller was very prompt; many thanks). But I'd have to judge that the
> quality of canvas and leather is less now than before.
>
> Do others see this?
>
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[RBW] Sackville quality

[Patrick Moore]

I just got a very good deal on an unused, recent-vintage Sackville
Saddlesack Medium, and I'm quite happy with it, but having owned and
extensively used one some 6-7 years ago before I shortsightedly sold it, I
compared the new one as observed with the old one as in memory, but with
pretty distinct memories, and I have to ask if the later ones were as good
as the originals? From what I recall, the leather straps are very certainly
not as good as before, and the material, while nice, is thinner. Again,
observing the late one, distinct memories of the original one.

Again, I'm not complaining because the price was very right (and the seller
was very prompt; many thanks). But I'd have to judge that the quality of
canvas and leather is less now than before.

Do others see this?

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Re: [RBW] Re: Handlebar bags

[Patrick Moore]

I hadn't been following this thread, and I'm glad I clicked on this message.

I don't usually pay much attention to bar bags (I've tried a fair number,
but my preferred frames don't encourage heavy front loads), but this bag
and mounting system is one I'd seriously consider. From what I think I've
seen, the permanent-mount clip is small and unobtrusive, and the
decently-sized bag just clips on and off. Now that I am waiting for a
builder to build and send me a new rear rack (for panniers) for my new
fixed/3 speed road bike, and I've just installed Alex's Sackville Medium I
could certainly use a bar bag like this one. I'll keep my eye on it.

I'm sorry your posts about counterfeits were taken down; I'm curious what
went on ...?

1. As Roberta asked, how much weight can this system comfortably carry?

2. And, what colors will it come it?

3. And lastly, how much for the system once on the market? (I won't
pre-order, all bagged out for the year, so I'm curious about the forecast
retail price.)

Nice work, to judge by the information and photos on the linked site!

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 3:47 PM S. Greco  wrote:

> I designed the Route Werks bags. There were an astounding number of scam
> sites that popped up once the Kickstarter was funded. I tried posting about
> it here but the post was taken down. Our test team is packed with
> riv-riders. I even put my Rivendell in the video! Anyway, I can attest that
> they bag is in fact real and meets Leah's requirements. We just started
> production and will be shipping in January. They will be available for
> pre-sale on our webstore  this week.
>
> On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 2:33:31 PM UTC-5 Steve Cole wrote:
>
>> I thought everyone should know that I received the following private
>> email from another lister.  Caveat Emptor:
>>
>> I am new on the list, so we haven’t corresponded before, but I just saw
>> your post, below, and thought you should know that is a bag that was sold
>> as a Kickstarter item and was pretty expensive.  Right after the
>> Kickstarter ended, they started seeing a lot of fake ads selling the bag
>> very inexpensively, like the one you posted.  But the thing is, that bag
>> doesn’t even exist yet.  And the company that is making the bag, called
>> Route Werks, sent out an email warning about the fake ads.  I thought you
>> should know.  I hope it all works out for you.
>>
>>
>> Sorry if I have caused anyone any problems.
>>
>> Steve Cole
>> Arlington, VA
>>
>> On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 6:26:37 AM UTC-5, Steve Cole wrote:
>>>
>>> Leah,
>>>
>>> I'm a bit embarrassed to send this reply.  My embarrassment derives from
>>> the fact that the bag I'm going to tell you about I first saw in a Facebook
>>> ad.  I can't even recommend it as I have not tried it . . . yet.  I did
>>> bite and one is on the way to me from, I would guess, China, but who
>>> knows.  I jumped on this bag for a few reasons.  Mostly, they have to do
>>> with what it can do.  It's easy to open while cycling as the opening faces
>>> the rider. Second, it has loads of attachment points for phones, Go Pros,
>>>  bells, lights, etc.  Third, it seems to fit very comfortably between drop
>>> handlebars and shouldn't be an issue for upright bars like I use.  Finally,
>>> the price is very right -- $40.  Here's the link:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://budsweet.net/collections/BICYCLE-ACCESSORIES/products/smart-multifunctional-handlebar
>>> .
>>>
>>> And here's a photo:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't think it comes in other colors so it may not work with your
>>> raspberry sparkler.  Still, I think it's work looking at the website at
>>> least to see how clever the designers were in developing this bag.  For me,
>>> this just looked too good to pass up and pass along.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Steve Cole
>>> Arlington, VA
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 30, 2020 at 12:58:11 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding
>>> Ding! wrote:

 While I wait for the wheelset of my Platypus, I’ve been thinking about
 how I want to set up my bars (sorry, I just cannot call it a ‘cockpit’).
 I’ve got 52 Boscos in aluminum to look forward to, and I want to keep my
 bike as svelte and light as I can. I did the unthinkable and paid for a
 Spurcycle bell just now ($49 for a bell?!) and now I need bags in keeping
 with the look. I’ve never ventured past Rivendell and Randi Jo for bags, so
 I’m unaware of what great offerings the market offers.

 As far as function goes, I’ve got that figured out. Attached are our
 pair of mom and kid Clems, which we have set up similarly with a Randi Jo
 bag for our Hydroflasks and a XS Saddlesack facing the rider for
 iPhones/keys/essentials. I like both of these bags, but neither holds all
 my items. I’d like to have only one bag so my bars aren’t so cluttered. I
 do know that Riv is re-doing some of their Sackville line, so I’ve emailed
 to ask about those details. I’d prefer to give Rivendell my money, but
 we’ll 

Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Olive Green SackvilleHappisack

[Patrick Moore]

Received; many thanks.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 3:49 PM Alex K  wrote:

> acksf78 at gmail
> On Sunday, November 1, 2020 at 10:11:16 PM UTC-8 Alex K wrote:
>
>> [image: 00CB1CB8-A5C0-4891-BB56-AAE2ED12ECD8.jpeg][image:
>> 4AB7D9DA-CFF8-4129-8D5C-83A864C8AD85.jpeg]Unused.  Bought at Silva
>> Cycles in San Jose two months ago.  Just didn’t work out.  Trying to recoup
>> some of the $225 I paid for it
>> $175 shipped CONUS or $160 Bay Area delivered
>> Thanks!
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Eric Marth]

Small Bridgestone XO-1 for $700 in Williamsburg, VA. No affiliation. 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1098938377191990/

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 2:49:05 PM UTC-5 Nikko in Oakland wrote:

> Atlantis, 53cm, full build with Paul bits and a Bertoud saddle with < 30 
> miles on it over at Crust. Probably won't be on there long. 
> $3125 + tax + shipping 
>
> https://www.crustbikes.com/products/53cm-rivendell-atlantis-complete/
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:46:52 AM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Protovelo F/F/HS
>> 56 cm
>> Lomita, CA
>> $350
>>
>>
>> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/lomita-rivendell-protovelo-frameset/722572.html
>>
>> [image: 00s0s_lgPf1O5q0Zk_0CI0l8_1200x900.jpg]
>> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:11:41 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>>
>>> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and 
>>> sites beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. 
>>> This thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who 
>>> are searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this 
>>> out!" Here are a few, from today's searches:
>>>
>>> 61cm Roadini
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>>>
>>> 58cm Quickbeam
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>>>
>>> 52cm Clementine
>>>
>>> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
>>>
>>> 65cm Redwood
>>>
>>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Nikko in Oakland]

Atlantis, 53cm, full build with Paul bits and a Bertoud saddle with < 30 
miles on it over at Crust. Probably won't be on there long. 
$3125 + tax + shipping 

https://www.crustbikes.com/products/53cm-rivendell-atlantis-complete/

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:46:52 AM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Protovelo F/F/HS
> 56 cm
> Lomita, CA
> $350
>
>
> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/lomita-rivendell-protovelo-frameset/722572.html
>
> [image: 00s0s_lgPf1O5q0Zk_0CI0l8_1200x900.jpg]
> On Wednesday, July 8, 2020 at 4:11:41 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> This thread is for Rivendells you've found on eBay, CraigsList, and sites 
>> beyond: bikes in which you think someone here might be interested. This 
>> thread isn't for posting ads to your own ad, it's just so people who are 
>> searching or interested have a place to look, like, "Hey, check this out!" 
>> Here are a few, from today's searches:
>>
>> 61cm Roadini
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/283940882590
>>
>> 58cm Quickbeam
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/pinole-rivendell-quickbeam-58/7154380920.html
>>
>> 52cm Clementine
>>
>> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/richardson-rivendell-clementine/7130894748.html
>>
>> 65cm Redwood
>>
>> https://bellingham.craigslist.org/bik/d/bellingham-rivendell-redwood/7153843392.html
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Joel Stern]

Dave, those look nice.  If I don’t like the MKS I have coming I will look
at these.  Wet riding would not be an issue for me and I like the short
pins.

Thank you

Joel
On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 12:57 PM 'Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch <
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> I'm a fan of VO's Sabot.  It has a large platform (100mm by 100mm, IIRC),
> is aluminum and silver, and has shortish rounded pins for grip.  The pins
> don't rip up my shoes, but they also don't grip well when the pedal's wet.
> That last bit is their one downside, but it's a price I'm willing to pay
> for pins that don't chew up my soles.
>
> Dave
> Boston/Indy
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[RBW] Re: Wolbis Slugstone Build

[Ashwath Akirekadu]

It's a lovely build Mark.  Looks enviably comfortable!

I'm a Wolbis owner too.  The bike is great for the places like I see in 
your pictures.  One thing I have started to notice is these hillie bikes 
are super stable.  Even with a little distracted riding, the chances of a 
crash is much less.  It is quite forgiving!

Have fun,
Ash

On Friday, 6 November 2020 at 08:49:38 UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:

>
> Before all the lovely new Sams get built up and steal the show, a few 
> photos of my new Wolbis, finished up a couple weeks ago. I was waiting on 
> the forks for the size larges. And of course took that opportunity to NOT 
> build up the wheels. Anyway, done!
>
> [image: IMG_20201023_080117425.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_20201023_080153725.jpg]
> Photo album HERE. 
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike of the Month: Sam Hillborne

[Jason Fuller]

Ray,  

In a word, yes - I kind of went through the whole goldilocks process trying 
to find what I wanted for day-to-day rides including commuting. The 
Bombadil breaks one rule--that it's not so expensive that I worry about 
it--but I'm trying to let go of that fear (and double lock it!). The Clem 
is a little small (I should have gone 52, but I'm pretty in-between on 
sizes) and the XO-2 is good but a bit short for an upright bar setup for 
me. 

That said if I had the space I'd keep them, but being in an apartment (with 
a partner whom doesn't want the place filled with bikes) means max 4 bikes, 
and I have a mountain bike and a folding bike I don't want to part with too 
(the latter is used for lock-up downtown purposes so the Bomba would never 
be in really sketchy situations) 

Cheers,
Jason 

On Friday, 6 November 2020 at 08:59:52 UTC-8 Ray wrote:

> Jason, mind if I ask why you're getting rid of the Clem/XO-2 so soon? Has 
> the Bombadil essentially replaced both?
>
> Ray
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[RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm a fan of VO's Sabot.  It has a large platform (100mm by 100mm, IIRC), 
is aluminum and silver, and has shortish rounded pins for grip.  The pins 
don't rip up my shoes, but they also don't grip well when the pedal's wet. 
 That last bit is their one downside, but it's a price I'm willing to pay 
for pins that don't chew up my soles.

Dave
Boston/Indy

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[RBW] Re: Sam Hillborne vintage

['Dave Small' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Randall,

I'm pretty sure the bike you describe was their second batch, the first one 
being green with gold decals.  Both of those batches were single-color, so 
no cream head tubes.  

Dave
Boston/Indy

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 5:49:41 PM UTC-5, Randall Rupp wrote:
>
> I have a Sam Hillborne that I got through this list sometime 2012, it's 
> orange with side pull brakes, but the headtube is not filled in with the 
> cream color like all the other one's I've seen.  It's just orange like the 
> rest of the bike.  Was that a one batch mistake or were the early ones 
> produced that way?
>
>  
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[RBW] Re: Wolbis Slugstone Build

[Shoji Takahashi]

great looking bike and build! the purple ano is terrific with the Riv blue.

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 11:49:38 AM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:

>
> Before all the lovely new Sams get built up and steal the show, a few 
> photos of my new Wolbis, finished up a couple weeks ago. I was waiting on 
> the forks for the size larges. And of course took that opportunity to NOT 
> build up the wheels. Anyway, done!
>
> [image: IMG_20201023_080117425.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_20201023_080153725.jpg]
> Photo album HERE. 
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Blue Riv Banana Sax or similar

[Ben Mihovk]

Gotcha. I have the x-small saddle sack in Royal and kind of want the banana 
sack for a handlebar bag and want them to match. My guess is the TrunkSack 
is photographed under artificial light and the banana sack looks to be shot 
out in the alley where they shoot all their bikes. I'd be surprised if 
Sackville used different materials for these two bags. 

The best idea I can give anyone of color is this...oddly, the Newbaum's 
navy tape is VERY close to the royal color Sackville used on the x-small 
saddlebag. 

Unrelated...I noticed you're in Raleigh? My sister-in-law lives there and 
my wife and I LOVE visiting...in fact, we were the week before Covid shut 
down the country. Huge fan of Trophy Brewing, Players Retreat, Rise 
biscuits...I could go on, but I'll leave it at this - I can't wait to visit 
Raleigh again! 

Ben

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 11:29:31 AM UTC-6 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Ben,
>
> Thanks for the help. I was aware that Riv does have the Banana Sax in 
> royal in stock right now, I was just hoping to find one used and save some 
> cash. 
>
> However, when you look at pictures of the royal blue Banana Sax on Riv's 
> website, and then compare them with the pictures of the royal blue small 
> TrunkSack, the TrunkSack looks to be a noticeably lighter shade of blue (at 
> least to my eyes anyways). Maybe it's just a trick of the camera/screen. 
> Anyone else notice this? 
>
>
> ~Mark 
> Raleigh , NC
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2020, at 12:19, Ben Mihovk  wrote:
>
> I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but has Rivendell sold blue bags 
> that are different color that the ones they call "Royal"? 
>
>
> The only reason I ask is because the Royal banana sacks are available on 
> Riv's website still. If you already knew that, wanted used, it's not the 
> right blue, etc..., I apologize! 
>
> -Ben
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 11:00:06 AM UTC-6 esoter...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Just a bump to see if anyone's got a suitable bag for sale.
>>
>> ~Mark
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-4 esoterica etc wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Howdy all,
>>>
>>> I'm in the market for a blue Sackville Banana Sax. I'm also open to 
>>> other brands with a similar "banana"-type bag, but my preference is for the 
>>> Sackville. Gotta be blue. PM me to let me know whatcha got! Thanks,
>>>
>>> ~Mark
>>> Raleigh, NC
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Blue Riv Banana Sax or similar

[esoterica etc]

Ben,

Thanks for the help. I was aware that Riv does have the Banana Sax in royal in 
stock right now, I was just hoping to find one used and save some cash. 

However, when you look at pictures of the royal blue Banana Sax on Riv's 
website, and then compare them with the pictures of the royal blue small 
TrunkSack, the TrunkSack looks to be a noticeably lighter shade of blue (at 
least to my eyes anyways). Maybe it's just a trick of the camera/screen. Anyone 
else notice this? 


~Mark 
Raleigh , NC


> On Nov 5, 2020, at 12:19, Ben Mihovk  wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, but has Rivendell sold blue bags 
> that are different color that the ones they call "Royal"? 
> 
> The only reason I ask is because the Royal banana sacks are available on 
> Riv's website still. If you already knew that, wanted used, it's not the 
> right blue, etc..., I apologize! 
> 
> -Ben
> 
>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 11:00:06 AM UTC-6 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Just a bump to see if anyone's got a suitable bag for sale.
>> 
>> ~Mark
>> 
>>> On Wednesday, October 28, 2020 at 10:07:04 AM UTC-4 esoterica etc wrote:
>>> 
>>> Howdy all,
>>> 
>>> I'm in the market for a blue Sackville Banana Sax. I'm also open to other 
>>> brands with a similar "banana"-type bag, but my preference is for the 
>>> Sackville. Gotta be blue. PM me to let me know whatcha got! Thanks,
>>> 
>>> ~Mark
>>> Raleigh, NC
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike of the Month: Sam Hillborne

[Ray]

Jason, mind if I ask why you're getting rid of the Clem/XO-2 so soon? Has 
the Bombadil essentially replaced both?

Ray

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 9:27:21 AM UTC-6 bjmi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm also a new Riv owner as of late September after REALLY wanting one 
> since about 2006. Like others, I Riv'd up a less expensive bike to scratch 
> the itch and it was also the PLP videos about the Sam that pushed me over 
> the edge. I had been saving up money from my summer job VERY aggressively 
> to purchase a Rivendell and had planned on waiting until my 40th birthday 
> in May of 2021. But Russ's video dropped in early August, I started calling 
> and e-mailing questions about which frame is best for me, and had an order 
> placed before the end of the month. Absolutely zero regrets. The quality of 
> the build and components (still blown away at the difference between a nice 
> wheel set and what comes on a complete bike from a web order company) in 
> conjunction with a frame that actually fits me has been an eye-opening 
> experience. 
>
> I was a little worried about the Sams being released and kicking myself 
> for going with an Atlantis just because my size was available when I was 
> ready to buy. However, as much as I love the color and look of the Sam, 
> their suggestion of 220 being a cut off for the bike makes me glad I did 
> not wait. I'm at their recommended weight max and I carry a good 10lbs of 
> stuff with me without even trying on my daily commute. Plus, Russian Sub 
> green and a rainbow double top tube on the 59cm blows away everything else! 
>
> I'm VERY happy to see frames getting snapped up and Rivendell staying 
> busy. I'm also glad I bought my bike when I did...I'm guessing turnaround 
> times will be a little slow with all the Sams that got snapped up. Anyone 
> doing a full Rivendell build and get a time quote? 
>
> Ben
>
> On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 8:08:04 AM UTC-6 Joel S wrote:
>
>> The Sam Hillborne is a shorter chainstay not racer boy influenced.  There 
>> are some of us that like the shorted chain stays.  I got nervous when I 
>> heard that many 51cm bikes were promised I believe to BlueLug and hopped on 
>> a NEW leftover from the 2019 release that I found.  Glad I did even though 
>> the Orange would not have been my first choice.  Love the blue but I have 
>> had many Riv blue bikes.  The darl gold is growing on me.  Congrats to all 
>> who were able to get the size and color you wanted, the Sam is a great 
>> bike.  
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 10:37:32 PM UTC-5, velomann wrote:
>>>
>>> Also, I know Russ and Laura from their PDX days and am a Patreon 
>>> supporter of Path Less Pedaled. Russ' review (and subsequent purchase) of 
>>> the Sam also heavily influenced my purchase. So I agree that Riv's 
>>> relationship with PLP is a win-win.
>>> MM
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:31:00 PM UTC-8 velomann wrote:
>>>
  "Did Riv send yours to Golden Pliers before the open sale or is yours 
 being
 shipped out with everyone else's? I hope it's the former and you get it 
 by
 this weekend!"

 Golden Pliers doesn't have it yet but last weekend said "very soon" so 
 I'm assuming it's being prepped/shipped with the rest at HQ, though I'm 
 hoping I'm near the front of the queue ;-)
 Mike M

 On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 5:57:11 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:

> Tracy and Mike,
>
> It is so exciting to see new Riv owners.  I'm new-ish (3 years) and I 
> couldn't believe how great the ride was when I first hopped on.  I expect 
> you'll have the same great experience.  I'm looking forward to your ride 
> reports.
>
> Mike, 
>
> Did Riv send yours to Golden Pliers before the open sale or is yours 
> being shipped out with everyone else's?  I hope it's the former and you 
> get 
> it by this weekend!
>
> Roberta
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 8:50:55 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Wow, Mike, you really planned for this one! It felt like these Sams 
>> snuck up on the rest of us, but not YOU. You saw them coming on the 
>> horizon 
>> months ago!  I’m so happy you got the size and color you wanted and that 
>> you are getting your very first Rivendell. Just you wait, what a snob it 
>> will make of you. Nothing else will be as good or as worth 
>> riding...that’s 
>> what happened to me, anyway.
>>
>> And Tracy! Good for you; you will notice there’s a difference between 
>> old and new Riv geo. My Betty Foy was a way different ride than my long 
>> chainstay Clementine. You’ll have two really great bikes so you can ride 
>> whatever flavor you crave. I hope Rivendell knows Path Less Pedaled 
>> influenced your purchase - this could be a great tool for them to grow.
>>
>> Sounds like the dark gold was a hit! Can’t believe how fast these 

[RBW] Re: FS: 63cm Curt Goodrich-built All Rounder FFHS

[Jeff]

I’d like to be next in line. Please send PM if Reid changes his mind. 
Thanks, Jeff

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 6:53:42 AM UTC-6 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
PA wrote:

> I have a couple projects brewing that will take time and $$$, and have 
> other bikes in the barn, so after long hard consideration am offering this 
> great bike to someone who can take it on new adventures. I picked it up a 
> few years ago, set it up for casual "just" rides and loved everything about 
> it. It's an early (2001) All Rounder in a large size, something you don't 
> see very often if ever. Built by Curt Goodrich in late 2000 and painted by 
> Joe Bell in early 2001, it checks all the boxes as a classic Rivendell. 
> 700c wheels fit with big tires (I have 2.1 Big Bens on it now). I had 40mm 
> tires with fenders on it briefly and there was room to spare. Chris King 
> headset. 
>
> [image: IMG_5832.jpg]
>
>
> Here are the key measurements:
>
> Seat tube: 63 C to T
> Top tube: 59 C to C
> Chainstay: 47 C to C
> Standover:  34 1/2" at seat tube - 35 1/2" at head tube as measured with 
> Big Ben tires 700cX50mm (2.1")
>
> My PBH: 92 
>
> Questions welcome. Pics show any areas of paint imperfection, but it's 
> pretty clean. No dents. Never crashed. If you buy the FFHS, I may also sell 
> *some* of the components you see in the pics, just let me know. After 
> this is sold I will list *some* of them separately. 
>
> Plenty of pics here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/albums/72157708799863597
>
> Price: $1525 and I will split shipping via Bikeflights
>
> Marty
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike of the Month: Sam Hillborne

[Ben Mihovk]

I'm also a new Riv owner as of late September after REALLY wanting one 
since about 2006. Like others, I Riv'd up a less expensive bike to scratch 
the itch and it was also the PLP videos about the Sam that pushed me over 
the edge. I had been saving up money from my summer job VERY aggressively 
to purchase a Rivendell and had planned on waiting until my 40th birthday 
in May of 2021. But Russ's video dropped in early August, I started calling 
and e-mailing questions about which frame is best for me, and had an order 
placed before the end of the month. Absolutely zero regrets. The quality of 
the build and components (still blown away at the difference between a nice 
wheel set and what comes on a complete bike from a web order company) in 
conjunction with a frame that actually fits me has been an eye-opening 
experience. 

I was a little worried about the Sams being released and kicking myself for 
going with an Atlantis just because my size was available when I was ready 
to buy. However, as much as I love the color and look of the Sam, their 
suggestion of 220 being a cut off for the bike makes me glad I did not 
wait. I'm at their recommended weight max and I carry a good 10lbs of stuff 
with me without even trying on my daily commute. Plus, Russian Sub green 
and a rainbow double top tube on the 59cm blows away everything else! 

I'm VERY happy to see frames getting snapped up and Rivendell staying busy. 
I'm also glad I bought my bike when I did...I'm guessing turnaround times 
will be a little slow with all the Sams that got snapped up. Anyone doing a 
full Rivendell build and get a time quote? 

Ben

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 8:08:04 AM UTC-6 Joel S wrote:

> The Sam Hillborne is a shorter chainstay not racer boy influenced.  There 
> are some of us that like the shorted chain stays.  I got nervous when I 
> heard that many 51cm bikes were promised I believe to BlueLug and hopped on 
> a NEW leftover from the 2019 release that I found.  Glad I did even though 
> the Orange would not have been my first choice.  Love the blue but I have 
> had many Riv blue bikes.  The darl gold is growing on me.  Congrats to all 
> who were able to get the size and color you wanted, the Sam is a great 
> bike.  
>
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 10:37:32 PM UTC-5, velomann wrote:
>>
>> Also, I know Russ and Laura from their PDX days and am a Patreon 
>> supporter of Path Less Pedaled. Russ' review (and subsequent purchase) of 
>> the Sam also heavily influenced my purchase. So I agree that Riv's 
>> relationship with PLP is a win-win.
>> MM
>>
>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:31:00 PM UTC-8 velomann wrote:
>>
>>>  "Did Riv send yours to Golden Pliers before the open sale or is yours 
>>> being
>>> shipped out with everyone else's? I hope it's the former and you get it 
>>> by
>>> this weekend!"
>>>
>>> Golden Pliers doesn't have it yet but last weekend said "very soon" so 
>>> I'm assuming it's being prepped/shipped with the rest at HQ, though I'm 
>>> hoping I'm near the front of the queue ;-)
>>> Mike M
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 5:57:11 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 Tracy and Mike,

 It is so exciting to see new Riv owners.  I'm new-ish (3 years) and I 
 couldn't believe how great the ride was when I first hopped on.  I expect 
 you'll have the same great experience.  I'm looking forward to your ride 
 reports.

 Mike, 

 Did Riv send yours to Golden Pliers before the open sale or is yours 
 being shipped out with everyone else's?  I hope it's the former and you 
 get 
 it by this weekend!

 Roberta

 On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 8:50:55 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> Wow, Mike, you really planned for this one! It felt like these Sams 
> snuck up on the rest of us, but not YOU. You saw them coming on the 
> horizon 
> months ago!  I’m so happy you got the size and color you wanted and that 
> you are getting your very first Rivendell. Just you wait, what a snob it 
> will make of you. Nothing else will be as good or as worth 
> riding...that’s 
> what happened to me, anyway.
>
> And Tracy! Good for you; you will notice there’s a difference between 
> old and new Riv geo. My Betty Foy was a way different ride than my long 
> chainstay Clementine. You’ll have two really great bikes so you can ride 
> whatever flavor you crave. I hope Rivendell knows Path Less Pedaled 
> influenced your purchase - this could be a great tool for them to grow.
>
> Sounds like the dark gold was a hit! Can’t believe how fast these sold 
> - faster than the Clems, I think, and the Clems were pretty popular. 
> Leah
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 5, 2020, at 4:36 PM, velomann  wrote:
>
> I will be taking delivery of a new "Dark Gold" 51cm Sam as soon as 
> Golden Pliers receives it and I'm stoked!
>
> I've 

[RBW] Re: FS: 63cm Curt Goodrich-built All Rounder FFHS

[Reid Echols]

Sent you a PM, Marty! 

Reid in Austin 

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 6:53:42 AM UTC-6, Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
PA wrote:
>
> I have a couple projects brewing that will take time and $$$, and have 
> other bikes in the barn, so after long hard consideration am offering this 
> great bike to someone who can take it on new adventures. I picked it up a 
> few years ago, set it up for casual "just" rides and loved everything about 
> it. It's an early (2001) All Rounder in a large size, something you don't 
> see very often if ever. Built by Curt Goodrich in late 2000 and painted by 
> Joe Bell in early 2001, it checks all the boxes as a classic Rivendell. 
> 700c wheels fit with big tires (I have 2.1 Big Bens on it now). I had 40mm 
> tires with fenders on it briefly and there was room to spare. Chris King 
> headset. 
>
> [image: IMG_5832.jpg]
>
>
> Here are the key measurements:
>
> Seat tube: 63 C to T
> Top tube: 59 C to C
> Chainstay: 47 C to C
> Standover:  34 1/2" at seat tube - 35 1/2" at head tube as measured with 
> Big Ben tires 700cX50mm (2.1")
>
> My PBH: 92 
>
> Questions welcome. Pics show any areas of paint imperfection, but it's 
> pretty clean. No dents. Never crashed. If you buy the FFHS, I may also sell 
> *some* of the components you see in the pics, just let me know. After 
> this is sold I will list *some* of them separately. 
>
> Plenty of pics here:
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/32306142@N07/albums/72157708799863597
>
> Price: $1525 and I will split shipping via Bikeflights
>
> Marty
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bike of the Month: Sam Hillborne

[Joel S]

The Sam Hillborne is a shorter chainstay not racer boy influenced.  There 
are some of us that like the shorted chain stays.  I got nervous when I 
heard that many 51cm bikes were promised I believe to BlueLug and hopped on 
a NEW leftover from the 2019 release that I found.  Glad I did even though 
the Orange would not have been my first choice.  Love the blue but I have 
had many Riv blue bikes.  The darl gold is growing on me.  Congrats to all 
who were able to get the size and color you wanted, the Sam is a great 
bike.  

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 10:37:32 PM UTC-5, velomann wrote:
>
> Also, I know Russ and Laura from their PDX days and am a Patreon supporter 
> of Path Less Pedaled. Russ' review (and subsequent purchase) of the Sam 
> also heavily influenced my purchase. So I agree that Riv's relationship 
> with PLP is a win-win.
> MM
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 7:31:00 PM UTC-8 velomann wrote:
>
>>  "Did Riv send yours to Golden Pliers before the open sale or is yours 
>> being
>> shipped out with everyone else's? I hope it's the former and you get it by
>> this weekend!"
>>
>> Golden Pliers doesn't have it yet but last weekend said "very soon" so 
>> I'm assuming it's being prepped/shipped with the rest at HQ, though I'm 
>> hoping I'm near the front of the queue ;-)
>> Mike M
>>
>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 5:57:11 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> Tracy and Mike,
>>>
>>> It is so exciting to see new Riv owners.  I'm new-ish (3 years) and I 
>>> couldn't believe how great the ride was when I first hopped on.  I expect 
>>> you'll have the same great experience.  I'm looking forward to your ride 
>>> reports.
>>>
>>> Mike, 
>>>
>>> Did Riv send yours to Golden Pliers before the open sale or is yours 
>>> being shipped out with everyone else's?  I hope it's the former and you get 
>>> it by this weekend!
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 8:50:55 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Wow, Mike, you really planned for this one! It felt like these Sams 
 snuck up on the rest of us, but not YOU. You saw them coming on the 
 horizon 
 months ago!  I’m so happy you got the size and color you wanted and that 
 you are getting your very first Rivendell. Just you wait, what a snob it 
 will make of you. Nothing else will be as good or as worth riding...that’s 
 what happened to me, anyway.

 And Tracy! Good for you; you will notice there’s a difference between 
 old and new Riv geo. My Betty Foy was a way different ride than my long 
 chainstay Clementine. You’ll have two really great bikes so you can ride 
 whatever flavor you crave. I hope Rivendell knows Path Less Pedaled 
 influenced your purchase - this could be a great tool for them to grow.

 Sounds like the dark gold was a hit! Can’t believe how fast these sold 
 - faster than the Clems, I think, and the Clems were pretty popular. 
 Leah
 Sent from my iPad

 On Nov 5, 2020, at 4:36 PM, velomann  wrote:

 I will be taking delivery of a new "Dark Gold" 51cm Sam as soon as 
 Golden Pliers receives it and I'm stoked!

 I've been corresponding with Will and Kevin at Golden Pliers since 
 details first started coming out, and put half down with Kevin so he could 
 get his shop order in as soon as possible - GP took over the Portland 
 Rivendell dealership after Rivelo closed. 
 The Gold 51's apparently sold out first, and I'd been told that Riv 
 expected that since Blue Lug had already spoken for most of them - they 
 were on BL's website several days ago.
 I've been a Riv fan for years, and owned several Bridgestone road and 
 mountain bikes, and applied various Riv-inspired treatment to other bikes 
 as well. But this Sam is my first actual Rivendell.
 I've been accumulating parts for the build for months and have 
 everything ready to go. I'll post pictures when it's done, but you can 
 expect that it's going to be singular and color-coordinated ;-)

 Mike M


 On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 2:34:23 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> I think I recently read in some form of Rivendell communication or 
> another, that Riv will be getting new shipments of bicycles monthly for 
> the 
> next several months - starting now. I love this for several reasons. 
>
> 1. Rivendell is making money. 
> 2. People are having New Bike Day. 
> 3. New Rivendells are arguably the best topic we have on this List. 
>
> I think it would be fun to start a thread specific to these new bikes 
> and see who is getting what. Maybe it’s for you. Maybe it’s a Christmas 
> gift for your spouse or your kiddo. Today, the dark gold and Rivendell 
> blue 
> Sams were up for grabs. I would love to celebrate with you if you ordered 
> one and care to mention it here. 
>
> I don’t 

Re: [RBW] FS: Olive Green SackvilleHappisack

[Patrick Moore]

It's being delivered today, per USPS.

On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 3:49 PM Alex K  wrote:

>
> It’s all yours, Patrick!
> On Monday, November 2, 2020 at 10:22:13 AM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Alex: I'll take it if available. Paypal?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Patrick Moore
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2020 at 11:11 PM Alex K  wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 00CB1CB8-A5C0-4891-BB56-AAE2ED12ECD8.jpeg][image:
>>> 4AB7D9DA-CFF8-4129-8D5C-83A864C8AD85.jpeg]Unused.  Bought at Silva
>>> Cycles in San Jose two months ago.  Just didn’t work out.  Trying to recoup
>>> some of the $225 I paid for it
>>> $175 shipped CONUS or $160 Bay Area delivered
>>> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Roberta.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 4:11 AM Roberta  wrote:

> My understanding is that the *bars* are the same shape and size; they
> differ in the stem attachment. I have  the c-m ones because that's what
> came with the bike. The norm version is more versatile.
>
> There is a lot of choco-love here   Good luck with your search.
>
>
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>>
>> Thanks Roberta.  It is the Choco Norm I am thinking about.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

[Ed Fausto]

With all the discussion on Choco norm, I better try mine (bought last year)
to replace an Albatross on may Joe.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 5:10 PM Roberta  wrote:

> My understanding is that the *bars* are the same shape and size; they
> differ in the stem attachment. I have  the c-m ones because that's what
> came with the bike. The norm version is more versatile.
>
> There is a lot of choco-love here   Good luck with your search.
>
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 10:09:55 PM UTC-5, Joel S wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Roberta.  It is the Choco Norm I am thinking about.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Albatross and Choco riders

[Roberta]

My understanding is that the *bars* are the same shape and size; they 
differ in the stem attachment. I have  the c-m ones because that's what 
came with the bike. The norm version is more versatile. 

There is a lot of choco-love here   Good luck with your search. 


On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 10:09:55 PM UTC-5, Joel S wrote:
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> Thanks Roberta.  It is the Choco Norm I am thinking about. 
>
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