[RBW] Re: Wolbis Slugstone Build

[brendonoid]

Absolutely love this build. Sort of hope that Riv does a tigged (cheaper) 
Hillibike so I can add one to the collection.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Dorothy, that’s even worse - so close but so far! Any word on when those rims 
are scheduled to ship? That’s really cool that you have a pair of Roadinis - an 
American Roadini and a Welsh one. ♥️♥️ Hope your sister rides the Welsh Roadini 
now and then. Let us know when you finally get your new orange bike rolling!

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[RBW] Re: How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[Jason Fuller]

Ray, I ran the Ultradynamico Rosé on my Hillborne (one batch ago) which 
measure 49-50mm in reality, and there was at least 5mm per side thru the 
fork and lots of clearance at the back. I would feel comfortable running 
any tires labeled 48c, but I don't think I'd try a 2.1".  Besides, anything 
bigger than 48c doesn't make sense to me - you're starting to change the 
geometry (namely BB height) and push the bike outside the zone its meant 
for, and neither of these things are going to make the bike ride better. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Jason Fuller]

I haven't heard evidence of more than the two prototypes (though I'm far 
from "in the know" as well), the one which is silver-ish might be the color 
but I don't see any blue in it.. 

Interesting that that page notes the frameset, since I was last told they 
would only be offered as completes. Perhaps the difficulties in putting 
together a parts package right now changed their minds since it would push 
the date they could sell them out too far.  

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[RBW] Re: Wolbis Slugstone Build

[Jason Fuller]

I adore this bike, thanks for posting it up!  I don't think I'm quite ready 
to give up my full suspended mountain bike because our trails are rowdy 
(steep, rooty, and technical) but otherwise I'd be very tempted by either a 
hillibike, or a Jones. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: eJoe

[rltilley]

Grant has ranted against carbs as well but we’re still eating bread. 

In my case having an e-bike makes me take far fewer trips by car than I would 
without an e-bike. I’m not going to go car free because I like to drive but I 
do use my cars way less these days. I have a cargo e-bike so I am able to do 
virtually all of my shopping by bike. Including large Costco runs. I’m the dork 
with the huge package of toilet paper on the rear rack.

I don’t see myself ever getting a recreational e-bike anytime but that could 
change as I continue to age.

Robert Tilley
San Diego, CA

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> On Nov 7, 2020, at 4:01 PM, George Schick  wrote:
> 
> I have to admit that both creeping old age and ignorance may be playing a 
> part, but I just am not understanding this thread.  For months now, maybe 
> even years, Grant has ranted against the advent of the eBike for various 
> reasons both environmental as well as physical.  Yet, here we are suddenly 
> espousing it.  What gives?
> 
> Why this sudden embracing of this "new technology" with its dependence upon 
> batteries and other components that make the use of "rare earth" elements, 
> many of which, when removed from the ground either by direct force or by 
> chemical extraction, have done major environmental damage to areas in China 
> areas where such mining has occurred ( 
> https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-wrestles-with-the-toxic-aftermath-of-rare-earth-mining
>  ).  I thought the major thrust of Rivbike (and Grant) was to espouse the use 
> of the human means of traveling.
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 5:40:06 PM UTC-5 J Imler wrote:
>> An eJoe is in the works. Has anyone tried an eJoe? I think it's gonna be 
>> great. I'm mainly doing so to hull my son up Mt. Diablo on the Burley 
>> trailer bike so we can bike camp together. It's not gonna happen otherwise. 
>> I'll report back as things progress... likely a hub drive rear wheel kit. 
>> I'm open to any ebuild advice.
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[RBW] Re: Wolbis Slugstone Build

[Joe Bernard]

3D Violet Kooka cranks! I love that you basically built a whole Rivendell 
around them, it's sweet!

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 8:49:38 AM UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:

>
> Before all the lovely new Sams get built up and steal the show, a few 
> photos of my new Wolbis, finished up a couple weeks ago. I was waiting on 
> the forks for the size larges. And of course took that opportunity to NOT 
> build up the wheels. Anyway, done!
>
> [image: IMG_20201023_080117425.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_20201023_080153725.jpg]
> Photo album HERE. 
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: eJoe

[Joe Bernard]

It's a matter of this isn't a Riv-sponsored group and some of us like these 
new lightweight motors and batteries on our bikes. They're not bicycles in 
the pure sense, they're a different thing that can be useful and fun. It 
just so happens that Riv frames make a very good base for a kit. 

Joe Bernard 

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 4:01:27 PM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:

> I have to admit that both creeping old age and ignorance may be playing a 
> part, but I just am not understanding this thread.  For months now, maybe 
> even years, Grant has ranted against the advent of the eBike for various 
> reasons both environmental as well as physical.  Yet, here we are suddenly 
> espousing it.  What gives?
>
> Why this sudden embracing of this "new technology" with its dependence 
> upon batteries and other components that make the use of "rare earth" 
> elements, many of which, when removed from the ground either by direct 
> force or by chemical extraction, have done major environmental damage to 
> areas in China areas where such mining has occurred ( 
> https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-wrestles-with-the-toxic-aftermath-of-rare-earth-mining
>  
> ).  I thought the major thrust of Rivbike (and Grant) was to espouse the 
> use of the human means of traveling.
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 5:40:06 PM UTC-5 J Imler wrote:
>
>> An eJoe is in the works. Has anyone tried an eJoe? I think it's gonna be 
>> great. I'm mainly doing so to hull my son up Mt. Diablo on the Burley 
>> trailer bike so we can bike camp together. It's not gonna happen otherwise. 
>> I'll report back as things progress... likely a hub drive rear wheel kit. 
>> I'm open to any ebuild advice. 
>
>

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[RBW] FS: CrustxNitto 31.8 faceplate quill Stem

[Collin A]

Hi All,

It's not the beautiful Riv fillet version, but it will get the job done if 
you are hoping to try some 31.8 bars on your 1" threaded bicycle.

Ordered it back in August, but too short for me after more cockpit 
fiddling...

$80 shipped would be awesome!

This one: https://www.crustbikes.com/products/nitto-31-8-30-60mm-stem/
Dull Chrome, 15 deg, 60mm length

Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/w7CUyL2s1WZGP7AM7

Cheers,
Collin, near the Sacramento capitol with the "stop the steal" Protest, 
christ...

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[RBW] Re: eJoe

[George Schick]

I have to admit that both creeping old age and ignorance may be playing a 
part, but I just am not understanding this thread.  For months now, maybe 
even years, Grant has ranted against the advent of the eBike for various 
reasons both environmental as well as physical.  Yet, here we are suddenly 
espousing it.  What gives?

Why this sudden embracing of this "new technology" with its dependence upon 
batteries and other components that make the use of "rare earth" elements, 
many of which, when removed from the ground either by direct force or by 
chemical extraction, have done major environmental damage to areas in China 
areas where such mining has occurred ( 
https://e360.yale.edu/features/china-wrestles-with-the-toxic-aftermath-of-rare-earth-mining
 
).  I thought the major thrust of Rivbike (and Grant) was to espouse the 
use of the human means of traveling.


On Tuesday, March 12, 2019 at 5:40:06 PM UTC-5 J Imler wrote:

> An eJoe is in the works. Has anyone tried an eJoe? I think it's gonna be 
> great. I'm mainly doing so to hull my son up Mt. Diablo on the Burley 
> trailer bike so we can bike camp together. It's not gonna happen otherwise. 
> I'll report back as things progress... likely a hub drive rear wheel kit. 
> I'm open to any ebuild advice. 

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[RBW] Still looking for Choco NORM bars at a fair price

[Joel S]

I get the feeling people don’t part with these.  

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[RBW] WTB: Short-reach Tallux or Technomic stem

[Jack Barnes]

Looking for a ~50cm reach Nitto stem with 26.0 clamp. Shipping to 97215.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[Dorothy C]

Sounds good. Happy riding. 
I am in a similar boat - after leaving my grey Roadini with my sister in 
Wales in December to have something nice to ride when I visit family, I 
snagged the last web special orange Roadini mid September. I have had an 
order in for Dyad rims (already have Bitex hubs and Sapim spokes)  since 
early October, and still waiting. 
Bike is almost completely built - even put the Crane bell and the bartape 
on!
Losco handlebars and a Nitto faceplate stem this time, vs the dirtdrop / 
Noodles on the grey one. 

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 3:08:57 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Dorothy, you are the nicest, and thank you for that offer.❤️  I think I’m 
> actually going to go with the silver Analog has on site (they have to check 
> first). If that works out, I think I could possibly have everything I need 
> for a build by late next week! And it’s a good thing, too. I need to give 
> this poor Clem a break. I think it might fall apart beneath me if it 
> doesn’t get a tune-up soon. After I reached my 2,020 mile goal Oct 9th, I 
> decided I should press on for 3,000 miles. I’m at 2,519.9 right now. 
> There’s clunks and ticks and squawks that I’m hoping aren’t dangerous. I 
> can’t give up my bike until I have the Platypus to ride. 
>
> #RivSisters,
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 7, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Dorothy C  wrote:
>
> Leah, I have a 700c Atlas set bought from Riv I no longer have a frame 
> for, Shimano Deore hubs, 135 rear spacing 36f/36r I would sell you if you 
> want an in the meantime set
>
>
>
> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:53:29 PM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>
>> Ray, I think they are the wrong size
>>
>> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:52:26 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Or borrow the wheels from your Clem. 
>>> Did you save your wheels when you upgraded your current bike?
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-8, Tom Wyland wrote:

 I saw that the delivery timeframe was updated to 2021.  The good news 
 is that I bought my Silver crankset before the Sams dropped. Now they are 
 sold out.  The bad news is that I won’t be building a Platypus until next 
 year.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[Leah Peterson]

Dorothy, you are the nicest, and thank you for that offer.❤️  I think I’m 
actually going to go with the silver Analog has on site (they have to check 
first). If that works out, I think I could possibly have everything I need for 
a build by late next week! And it’s a good thing, too. I need to give this poor 
Clem a break. I think it might fall apart beneath me if it doesn’t get a 
tune-up soon. After I reached my 2,020 mile goal Oct 9th, I decided I should 
press on for 3,000 miles. I’m at 2,519.9 right now. There’s clunks and ticks 
and squawks that I’m hoping aren’t dangerous. I can’t give up my bike until I 
have the Platypus to ride. 

#RivSisters,
Leah

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> On Nov 7, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Dorothy C  wrote:
> 
> Leah, I have a 700c Atlas set bought from Riv I no longer have a frame for, 
> Shimano Deore hubs, 135 rear spacing 36f/36r I would sell you if you want an 
> in the meantime set
> 
>> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:53:29 PM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:
>> Ray, I think they are the wrong size
>> 
>>> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:52:26 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:
>>> 
>>> Or borrow the wheels from your Clem. 
>>> Did you save your wheels when you upgraded your current bike?
>>> 
>>> Ray
>>> 
 On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-8, Tom Wyland wrote:
 I saw that the delivery timeframe was updated to 2021.  The good news is 
 that I bought my Silver crankset before the Sams dropped. Now they are 
 sold out.  The bad news is that I won’t be building a Platypus until next 
 year.
 
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[RBW] Re: Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[Dorothy C]

Leah, I have a 700c Atlas set bought from Riv I no longer have a frame for, 
Shimano Deore hubs, 135 rear spacing 36f/36r I would sell you if you want 
an in the meantime set

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:53:29 PM UTC-8 Dorothy C wrote:

> Ray, I think they are the wrong size
>
> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:52:26 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>>
>> Or borrow the wheels from your Clem. 
>> Did you save your wheels when you upgraded your current bike?
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-8, Tom Wyland wrote:
>>>
>>> I saw that the delivery timeframe was updated to 2021.  The good news is 
>>> that I bought my Silver crankset before the Sams dropped. Now they are sold 
>>> out.  The bad news is that I won’t be building a Platypus until next year.
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[Dorothy C]

Ray, I think they are the wrong size

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 2:52:26 PM UTC-8 Ray Varella wrote:

>
> Or borrow the wheels from your Clem. 
> Did you save your wheels when you upgraded your current bike?
>
> Ray
>
> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-8, Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>> I saw that the delivery timeframe was updated to 2021.  The good news is 
>> that I bought my Silver crankset before the Sams dropped. Now they are sold 
>> out.  The bad news is that I won’t be building a Platypus until next year.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[Leah Peterson]

Clem is 650b, Plat is 700c

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 7, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Ray Varella  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Or borrow the wheels from your Clem. 
> Did you save your wheels when you upgraded your current bike?
> 
> Ray
>> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-8, Tom Wyland wrote:
>> I saw that the delivery timeframe was updated to 2021.  The good news is 
>> that I bought my Silver crankset before the Sams dropped. Now they are sold 
>> out.  The bad news is that I won’t be building a Platypus until next year.
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[Ray Varella]

Or borrow the wheels from your Clem. 
Did you save your wheels when you upgraded your current bike?

Ray
On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:17:12 AM UTC-8, Tom Wyland wrote:
>
> I saw that the delivery timeframe was updated to 2021.  The good news is 
> that I bought my Silver crankset before the Sams dropped. Now they are sold 
> out.  The bad news is that I won’t be building a Platypus until next year.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[velomann]

Keep your dream wheelset plan. But in the meantime go online and order a 
cheap stop-gap wheelset because if the wheels are what's keeping you from 
riding the only Platypus outside the Riv showroom that's just sad. Then 
when you get the good wheels you'll appreciate the bike even more because 
the great ride quality will be even better, and you'll have a backup set or 
you can sell the budget wheels on this forum ;-)

Mike M

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:53:57 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Oh, how depressing. I suppose I suspected delays (what with the Sams 
> having to go out first and all) but I’m so deflated to hear it regardless. 
> But yes, order your parts, friends. I ordered my wheels with Velocity Quill 
> rims 9/24 and they’ve been delayed until mid-December. Which is when I’ll 
> be gone for Christmas, which means no Platypus until sometime in January 
> for me, and I have the frame! I’m presently deciding whether I should 
> abandon the rims with rose anodized rims and just embrace a silver rimmed 
> wheelset so I can have the bike NOW...
>
> Waiting. It’s all we do anymore!
> Leah

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[RBW] Re: FS:MKS Sylvan Track Next pedals, scuffed caps, 3 laity Christophe medium clips

[Joel S]

Correction, not Next, the have ball bearings. 

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 4:08:42 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

>
> Auto correct will make me nuts.  3 PAIR. 
>
> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 4:07:49 PM UTC-5, Joel S wrote:
>>
>> MKS pedals, $35 plus shipping, see photos for scuffs on caps. Can use 
>> some polish. 
>>
>> Christophe Medium Clips, NOS, 3 pair, $30 plus shipping 
>> One clip is missing screws and nuts.  
>>
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[RBW] Blue Lug has 51’s.

[Joel S]

https://global.bluelug.com/rivendell-sam-hillborne-frame-set-dark-gold.html

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[RBW] Re: FS:MKS Sylvan Track Next pedals, scuffed caps, 3 laity Christophe medium clips

[Joel S]

Auto correct will make me nuts.  3 PAIR. 
On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 4:07:49 PM UTC-5, Joel S wrote:
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> MKS pedals, $35 plus shipping, see photos for scuffs on caps. Can use some 
> polish. 
>
> Christophe Medium Clips, NOS, 3 pair, $30 plus shipping 
> One clip is missing screws and nuts.  
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[RBW] Re: FS: 63cm Curt Goodrich-built All Rounder FFHS

[Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA]

Bike has been sold. Thanks for all the interest. 


>
>
>
>> [image: IMG_5832.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Marty
>>
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[RBW] Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Oh, how depressing. I suppose I suspected delays (what with the Sams having to 
go out first and all) but I’m so deflated to hear it regardless. But yes, order 
your parts, friends. I ordered my wheels with Velocity Quill rims 9/24 and 
they’ve been delayed until mid-December. Which is when I’ll be gone for 
Christmas, which means no Platypus until sometime in January for me, and I have 
the frame! I’m presently deciding whether I should abandon the rims with rose 
anodized rims and just embrace a silver rimmed wheelset so I can have the bike 
NOW...

Waiting. It’s all we do anymore!
Leah

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[RBW] Platypus 2021 Nooooo

[Tom Wyland]

I saw that the delivery timeframe was updated to 2021.  The good news is 
that I bought my Silver crankset before the Sams dropped. Now they are sold 
out.  The bad news is that I won’t be building a Platypus until next year.

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[RBW] Re: How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[a spen]

Ray,
I'm currently running Gravel Kings: 50 up front and 43 in back.  Room in 
back for a 45 but no bigger on my Waterford canti 64 double tt.
Al
 

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 12:24:06 PM UTC-5, Ray Varella wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Jimmy. 
> Does anyone know if clearances increased with the cantilever versions?
>
> Ray
> On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 5:50:01 PM UTC-8, Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>> I’ve seen the limit listed as 47-48mm without fenders on the Riv site but 
>> I suspect some of you have pushed the limits. 
>> How fat did you go?
>>
>> Thank you 
>> Ray
>>
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[RBW] Re: How large of a tire will a Sam Hillborne actually fit

[Ray Varella]

Thanks Jimmy. 
Does anyone know if clearances increased with the cantilever versions?

Ray
On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 5:50:01 PM UTC-8, Ray Varella wrote:
>
> I’ve seen the limit listed as 47-48mm without fenders on the Riv site but 
> I suspect some of you have pushed the limits. 
> How fat did you go?
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks. I did come across that page, but I'd like to see a photo. Anyone?

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 9:02 AM Chase Granoff 
wrote:

> Hi Patrick,
>
> I came across it this morning... just searched Gallop on the Riv site and
> found the link. No photos. Just specs and such.
>
> Strange... the link should still work (it is for me). Try this:
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/charlie-h-gallop-frame-fork
>
> Chase
>
> On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 10:52:31 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Can anyone post a photo or a link to a photo? I missed this one. When did
>> it appear?
>>
>> Googling brings up a 404 on the Riv site and misc cartoon fish and people
>> photos elsewhere.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 8:36 AM Chase Granoff  wrote:
>>
>>> This might be old news.. but I was looking for something on the Riv site
>>> and came across this:
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/charlie-h-gallop-frame-fork?_pos=10&_sid=deda5f283&_ss=r
>>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 9:24:49 AM UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote:
>>>
 Eamon, on Instagram last week when Will’s new Susie was pictured, in
 the comment there was a summary of ETA’s on frames, snipped from the
 newsletter.
  When someone asked about any plans for the Roadini he said “Not in the
 foreseeable future. Of course, that does not mean “forever.”

 On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 10:34:31 PM UTC-7 Eamon Nordquist
 wrote:

> Is the Roadini discontinued, and the Charlie H Gallop it’s
> replacement? If so, I guess I understand why they may have chosen to go
> with caliper brakes over canti/v-brakes. I suppose I’m not 100% against 
> the
> change. It is an interesting bike either way.
>
> Eamon
> Seattle

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[RBW] Running a Mark's rack/basket....AND a handlebar bag?!?!?!

[Ben Mihovk]

Hey all!
I recently set up my Atlantis with a Mark's rack and medium Walk zip-tied 
to it. I double strutted the rack and have the Irish strap connecting the 
tombstone to the bars (Chocos). 

I have an x-small saddle sack that I love and was offered a matching one at 
a great price. I love the way the x-small sack looks/fits on my handlebars, 
but I'm having some serious issues figuring out how to strap the tombstone 
for support while having a handlebar bag.

One solution I might have is to strap the tombstone to the headtube 
horizontally. I did it a minute ago and looped the Irish strap a bunch of 
times and tightened it up. Is this good enough for supporting the rack if 
the tange fails? Will the strap on the frame rub off the paint or top/clear 
coat? 

Any ideas on how to have both a Mark's rack and x-small handlebar bag are 
welcome. 

For what it's worth...I don't plan on ever exceeding the 4 pound 
recommendation on the rack. I've used it to carry my 3 pound laptop and 
charger (with a Captain Hook), to grab a 3 pound bag of groceries, etc...I 
may push it to a six pack of beer, but I have a rear rack and panniers if I 
need to carry anything heavy. 

Thanks!
Ben

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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Chase Granoff]

Hi Patrick, 

I came across it this morning... just searched Gallop on the Riv site and 
found the link. No photos. Just specs and such.

Strange... the link should still work (it is for me). Try this:

https://www.rivbike.com/products/charlie-h-gallop-frame-fork

Chase

On Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 10:52:31 AM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Can anyone post a photo or a link to a photo? I missed this one. When did 
> it appear?
>
> Googling brings up a 404 on the Riv site and misc cartoon fish and people 
> photos elsewhere.
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 8:36 AM Chase Granoff  wrote:
>
>> This might be old news.. but I was looking for something on the Riv site 
>> and came across this:
>>
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/charlie-h-gallop-frame-fork?_pos=10&_sid=deda5f283&_ss=r
>> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 9:24:49 AM UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote:
>>
>>> Eamon, on Instagram last week when Will’s new Susie was pictured, in the 
>>> comment there was a summary of ETA’s on frames, snipped from the 
>>> newsletter. 
>>>  When someone asked about any plans for the Roadini he said “Not in the 
>>> foreseeable future. Of course, that does not mean “forever.”
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 10:34:31 PM UTC-7 Eamon Nordquist wrote:
>>>
 Is the Roadini discontinued, and the Charlie H Gallop it’s replacement? 
 If so, I guess I understand why they may have chosen to go with caliper 
 brakes over canti/v-brakes. I suppose I’m not 100% against the change. It 
 is an interesting bike either way. 

 Eamon 
 Seattle 
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Patrick Moore]

Can anyone post a photo or a link to a photo? I missed this one. When did
it appear?

Googling brings up a 404 on the Riv site and misc cartoon fish and people
photos elsewhere.

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 8:36 AM Chase Granoff 
wrote:

> This might be old news.. but I was looking for something on the Riv site
> and came across this:
>
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/charlie-h-gallop-frame-fork?_pos=10&_sid=deda5f283&_ss=r
> On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 9:24:49 AM UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote:
>
>> Eamon, on Instagram last week when Will’s new Susie was pictured, in the
>> comment there was a summary of ETA’s on frames, snipped from the
>> newsletter.
>>  When someone asked about any plans for the Roadini he said “Not in the
>> foreseeable future. Of course, that does not mean “forever.”
>>
>> On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 10:34:31 PM UTC-7 Eamon Nordquist wrote:
>>
>>> Is the Roadini discontinued, and the Charlie H Gallop it’s replacement?
>>> If so, I guess I understand why they may have chosen to go with caliper
>>> brakes over canti/v-brakes. I suppose I’m not 100% against the change. It
>>> is an interesting bike either way.
>>>
>>> Eamon
>>> Seattle
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Charlie H Gallop!

[Chase Granoff]

This might be old news.. but I was looking for something on the Riv site 
and came across this:

https://www.rivbike.com/products/charlie-h-gallop-frame-fork?_pos=10&_sid=deda5f283&_ss=r
On Saturday, September 26, 2020 at 9:24:49 AM UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote:

> Eamon, on Instagram last week when Will’s new Susie was pictured, in the 
> comment there was a summary of ETA’s on frames, snipped from the 
> newsletter. 
>  When someone asked about any plans for the Roadini he said “Not in the 
> foreseeable future. Of course, that does not mean “forever.”
>
> On Friday, September 25, 2020 at 10:34:31 PM UTC-7 Eamon Nordquist wrote:
>
>> Is the Roadini discontinued, and the Charlie H Gallop it’s replacement? 
>> If so, I guess I understand why they may have chosen to go with caliper 
>> brakes over canti/v-brakes. I suppose I’m not 100% against the change. It 
>> is an interesting bike either way. 
>>
>> Eamon 
>> Seattle 
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne vintage

[Eric Platt]

Patrick,

You're right. I had forgotten the first green ones were canti. For some
reason had it burned in my brain mine was sidepull. Just checked some old
photos. Nope. Canti mounts. Looks like I was using V brakes for most of the
time.

Wonder if it was because the Tektro long sidepulls weren't available yet? I
can't run tires over 40mm and fenders on mine now. Would love to run 42 to
45 with fenders. But am so used to this bike don't want to move it on and
start over with another one. Not that it matters right now as the only bike
getting ridden is the Clem L.

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN


On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 9:00 AM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> I had a first edition Sam, all green with no cream or white,
> pre-double-top-tubes, and with cantilever brakes. Orange and sidepulls
> obviously came afterward.
>
> Why did Rivendell start using calipers on the Sam? Cantilevers are a
> natural for this, for wider tires and fender clearance, especially as (I
> think) the later designs accommodated wider tires than the first ones.
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:33 AM EricP  wrote:
>
>> Yes, I believe it was first green, then orange, solid color. Had a green
>> one. It's possible they were both available for a while. Then it was the
>> blue with white/cream headtube option. Still sidepull brakes. And double
>> top tubes on the big sizes. That's the model I still have. Believe the next
>> batch after that went to canti. Really wish I had waited for that version.
>> But of course had no idea it was in the works.
>>
>> Eric Platt
>> St. Paul, MN
>>
>> On Friday, No
>>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne vintage

[Patrick Moore]

I had a first edition Sam, all green with no cream or white,
pre-double-top-tubes, and with cantilever brakes. Orange and sidepulls
obviously came afterward.

Why did Rivendell start using calipers on the Sam? Cantilevers are a
natural for this, for wider tires and fender clearance, especially as (I
think) the later designs accommodated wider tires than the first ones.

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:33 AM EricP  wrote:

> Yes, I believe it was first green, then orange, solid color. Had a green
> one. It's possible they were both available for a while. Then it was the
> blue with white/cream headtube option. Still sidepull brakes. And double
> top tubes on the big sizes. That's the model I still have. Believe the next
> batch after that went to canti. Really wish I had waited for that version.
> But of course had no idea it was in the works.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>
> On Friday, No
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS 55cm Blue Sam Hillborne frame

[Bill Ruprecht]

This frame is sold

On Saturday, October 31, 2020 at 2:51:12 PM UTC-4 Bill Ruprecht wrote:

> Yes
>
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2020, 1:46 PM Luke Volkmann  
> wrote:
>
>> Am I correct that this size is for 700c wheels?
>>
>> On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 4:12:31 PM UTC-7 Bill Ruprecht wrote:
>>
>>> Sidepull
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020, 3:01 PM Nick Ybarra  wrote:
>>>
 Is this a canti or sidepull brake version?

 On Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 1:09:04 PM UTC-5 Bill Ruprecht wrote:

> I am downsizing. Got too many bikes that i don't ride
> This is a frame that never got out of the packing material, let alone 
> built up.
>
> Sam Hillborne frame with headset (installed) and bottom bracket
> $1200 plus shipping via bike flights. Located in NH
> Possibility of meeting along the eastern seaboard around Thanksgiving 
> as i am driving to FL.[image: 20191013_124546.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: Plenty of clearance under Medium Saddlesack

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks. It's an original issue Flite, but recovered (the original cover
wore out and when I removed it the padding came with it, so I glued nice,
thick brown leather over the plastic base. It looks very nice, and it feels
very comfortable by the universal test that I don't feel it or think about
it when I ride.

The bag is attached with Velo Orange clamp-on loops.

Nice tho' the bag is, I hope Stephen Bilenky comes through in his promised
1-month time for the new rear rack.

On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 12:53 AM Earls61  wrote:

> Nice! What kind of saddle is that? Did you have to add bag loops?
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[RBW] Re: Wolbis Slugstone Build

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Whimsy. You love a dose of whimsy in your builds and so do I! Yay for this 
really whimsical Hillibike. You’re brightening the trails right up - in fact, 
you’d likely be plenty visible to the hunters in big game season. Don’t try it, 
though...

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[RBW] Re: Platform pedal recommendations

[Ryan M.]

I've had bad luck with some mks pedals so years ago I started switching to 
DMR Vault pedals. I really like them for a flat pedal especially when out 
on the mtb trails. I also got a pair of Diety Tmac on a bike purchase and 
those pedals have been really great too. Both of these have bigger 
platforms than the VIP thin grippy pedals that Riv once sold...not sure if 
they still do.

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 6:11:43 PM UTC-6 Joel S wrote:

> All riding is on blacktop, just want a larger footprint.  Don’t want a 
> plastic or rubber pedal.
>
> Thank
>
> Joel
>

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Re: [RBW] Sam Hillborne vintage

[EricP]

Yes, I believe it was first green, then orange, solid color. Had a green 
one. It's possible they were both available for a while. Then it was the 
blue with white/cream headtube option. Still sidepull brakes. And double 
top tubes on the big sizes. That's the model I still have. Believe the next 
batch after that went to canti. Really wish I had waited for that version. 
But of course had no idea it was in the works. 

Eric Platt
St. Paul, MN

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 8:08:09 PM UTC-6 Jimmy Warren wrote:

>
> Your Sam is from batch of orange when the head tube was not cream. It was 
> the second color since Sams first came out.
>
> And your Sam’s vintage is excellent. I used to have one until I replaced 
> it with a newer Sam frame!
>
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2020, at 5:32 AM, Randall Rupp  wrote:
>
> I have a Sam Hillborne that I got through this list sometime 2012, it's 
> orange with side pull brakes, but the headtube is not filled in with the 
> cream color like all the other one's I've seen.  It's just orange like the 
> rest of the bike.  Was that a one batch mistake or were the early ones 
> produced that way?
>
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[RBW] Re: Bike of the Month: Sam Hillborne

[Mark Roland]

True, the last couple batches o' bikes were from the Hillibike line, which 
does have the longest wheelbases of all the Rivs, and one variation is a 
step through. But i'm not convinced about the "more mainstream" and some 
kind of relief from "insanely long chain stays."

Right now you can't really buy ANY bicycles from Rivendell other than a 
couple of models, and *only* in the smallest size. I think part of the 
reason for this is that the company has built up its dealer network, 
including and particularly Blue Lug.

Also the latest batch of Sams is back to canti/v-brakes, which many people 
seem to prefer. And of course that golden orange color and the classic mink 
blue! In terms of the chain stays, I presume those are where they are due 
to the bike's position in the line-up. But I would not be surprised if, 
like the Platypus (also now canti), got a touch of elongation in that zone 
this go round, since they are siblings. I suspect most people want the 
company's most popular model, and trust them to equip it with a suitable 
chain stay length. 

Not that this particularly matters--they seem to sell out of just about 
every model rather quickly these days, which is a good thing, and is their 
business model--similar to Acorn bags, where customers eagerly anticipate 
the next batch release, and line up virtually around the block. Come to 
think of it, that is how the brewery across the street from me operates, 
too (except non-virtually).

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 10:58:48 PM UTC-5, Nathan Mattia wrote:
>
> I think the reason people are so excited about the Hillborne’s is that 
> they resemble something of a more mainstream bike.  I realize it’s not 
> entirely true, but it seems like for several months, the only bikes you 
> could buy from Riv had insanely long chain stays or were all step-thru 
> mixtes.  
> I know that a Gallop or a Platypus may inevitably be in my future, but 
> people dig more traditional bikes as well.  
> I’m a bit surprised the middle sizes are sold out so quickly.  
>
> On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 4:34:23 PM UTC-6, Bicycle Belle Ding 
> Ding! wrote:
>>
>> I think I recently read in some form of Rivendell communication or 
>> another, that Riv will be getting new shipments of bicycles monthly for the 
>> next several months - starting now. I love this for several reasons. 
>>
>> 1. Rivendell is making money. 
>> 2. People are having New Bike Day. 
>> 3. New Rivendells are arguably the best topic we have on this List. 
>>
>> I think it would be fun to start a thread specific to these new bikes and 
>> see who is getting what. Maybe it’s for you. Maybe it’s a Christmas gift 
>> for your spouse or your kiddo. Today, the dark gold and Rivendell blue Sams 
>> were up for grabs. I would love to celebrate with you if you ordered one 
>> and care to mention it here. 
>>
>> I don’t know what number of frames Rivendell started with, but there were 
>> only a handful left on the site a couple of hours ago. Congratulations if 
>> you are a proud new owner! 
>> Leah
>
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[RBW] Re: Wolbis Slugstone Build

[Mark Roland]

Thanks guys. Yes, stable in a good way, planted and naturally following 
your inputs, but not overly gyroscopically stable where you need to wrestle 
the bike to change the line. So far nimble enough for my admittedly 
somewhat tame single track needs--though it is currently big game season 
and my local favorite trail spots are off limits at the moment. Truly one 
of the most fun bikes to ride, ever.

On Friday, November 6, 2020 at 1:28:05 PM UTC-5, Ashwath Akirekadu wrote:
>
> It's a lovely build Mark.  Looks enviably comfortable!
>
> I'm a Wolbis owner too.  The bike is great for the places like I see in 
> your pictures.  One thing I have started to notice is these hillie bikes 
> are super stable.  Even with a little distracted riding, the chances of a 
> crash is much less.  It is quite forgiving!
>
> Have fun,
> Ash
>
> On Friday, 6 November 2020 at 08:49:38 UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:
>
>>
>> Before all the lovely new Sams get built up and steal the show, a few 
>> photos of my new Wolbis, finished up a couple weeks ago. I was waiting on 
>> the forks for the size larges. And of course took that opportunity to NOT 
>> build up the wheels. Anyway, done!
>>
>> [image: IMG_20201023_080117425.jpg]
>>
>> [image: IMG_20201023_080153725.jpg]
>> Photo album HERE. 
>>
>>
>>
>>

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