[RBW] Friction 1x11

[Sam Perez]

Any one have any experience with a friction 1x set up ? I'm really curious,
but was discouraged bc I've herd anything above an 8s suffers on friction
mode, is there a shifters that would be adequate and is the shifting more
fussy ?

Thanks

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[RBW] Larger alternate to rat trap pass tires

[Sam Perez]

Hi all,
Any one know of any supple high quality supple slick 26x 2.4 -2.6 tires?

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[RBW] Mb-1 closest modern riv relative

[Sam Perez]

Hi all,
What is the closest modern riv relative to the bridgestone MB-1?  And is
anyone still riding them? Feel free to share pics!

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Re: [RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Michael Williams]

Jim,  several years ago I had a double TT 64cm Atlantis that I took on a tour 
up around the Olympic peninsula. It also was a touch too large for me.   In 
touring mode I had it loaded up with a Pass and Stow front rack with a basket 
on top and two medium sized low rider front panniers. On the rear I had a 
medium saddle sack that sat on a Nitto r-14 rack.It was probably  75/25 ; 
front/ rear weight distribution.   That bike rode awesome( to me) in that 
configuration.Leaving an empty-ish camp one morning on a quiet stretch of 
road,  I rode no handed for ~7miles on a gently curvy road. It felt smooth and 
in control.  (. There were mile markers and when solo on the road sometimes you 
make games for yourself).   I’ll never forget that.  Just anecdotally 
reiterating your experience that sometimes a bike can feel better with some 
weight.-Mike

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> On Jan 9, 2021, at 10:01 PM, dougP  wrote:
> 
> Anything bike related that I don't want goes to my local bicycle co-op.  They 
> depend on donations to keep bikes owned by low income people running.  What 
> feels like a crappy, sluggish tire to me could be wonderful to someone who 
> just needs new rubber to get back'n'forth to work on.  Never toss out a 
> "tried & disliked" item.  Donate.
> 
> dougP
> 
>> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 8:24:28 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:
>> Thanks for the ideas and observations, everyone.  I will try lowering the 
>> tire pressure tomorrow.  New tires soon, too.
>> 
>> Jason and Mark, I think you are right that the Clem ought to fit me.  By the 
>> numbers it does.  My favorite bike to ride around town is an old mountain 
>> bike with a 53cm seat tube that ought to be too small for me, but it's 
>> sprightly and a lot of fun to ride.
>> 
>> I'm not sure why I picked up the pipe, Jason.  It seemed like a good pipe.  
>> 
>> Jim
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 10:40 PM Mark Roland  wrote:
>> 
>>> I doubt the pipe is doing much for your Clem other than perhaps 
>>> contributing to some beausage on your top tube. The bike certainly doesn't 
>>> seem like it would be too big for a 6'1"--Grant runs a 59 Clem and he is 
>>> under six foot. 
>>> 
>>> I never changed the Kendas on my OC (Original Clementine) and yeah they 
>>> were a little sluggish, though not the end of the world. On my El Clem, I 
>>> went with Rene Herse Switchback Hill EL. Pretty dreamy. I would never 
>>> describe a Clem as a lumbering hulk, though, so your mileage may vary.  
>>> Before getting a smaller bike I would drop a buck sixty on some fancy tires 
>>> and see what happens.
>>> 
 On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:37:33 PM UTC-5 Jim Whorton wrote:
 I have a 59cm Clem H that is a little too big for me (I am 6' 1", 89 PBH). 
  So I was riding it on some hilly pavement today, thinking what a 
 lumbering hulk this bike is and how I need a smaller one.  I came across a 
 piece of iron pipe in the road.  I thought, "I need to tie that on my bike 
 because it will make everything worse, proving my point."  I tied it on 
 the bike and to my confusion, the bike rode more smoothly.  It felt great. 
  It didn't feel faster but it felt easier and just really nice.  Smoother. 
  The simplest explanation is that I am confused and imagining things, 
 because adding pounds to my Clem H should not make it nicer to ride.  
 Butis it possible I was not confused?
 
 I will try to insert a picture.  
 
 Jim in Rochester
 
 
 
 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[dougP]

Anything bike related that I don't want goes to my local bicycle co-op.  
They depend on donations to keep bikes owned by low income people running.  
What feels like a crappy, sluggish tire to me could be wonderful to someone 
who just needs new rubber to get back'n'forth to work on.  Never toss out a 
"tried & disliked" item.  Donate.

dougP

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 8:24:28 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:

> Thanks for the ideas and observations, everyone.  I will try lowering the 
> tire pressure tomorrow.  New tires soon, too.
>
> Jason and Mark, I think you are right that the Clem *ought* to fit me.  
> By the numbers it does.  My favorite bike to ride around town is an old 
> mountain bike with a 53cm seat tube that ought to be too small for me, but 
> it's sprightly and a lot of fun to ride.
>
> I'm not sure why I picked up the pipe, Jason.  It seemed like a good 
> pipe.  
>
> Jim
>
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 10:40 PM Mark Roland  wrote:
>
>> I doubt the pipe is doing much for your Clem other than perhaps 
>> contributing to some beausage on your top tube. The bike certainly doesn't 
>> seem like it would be too big for a 6'1"--Grant runs a 59 Clem and he is 
>> under six foot. 
>>
>> I never changed the Kendas on my OC (Original Clementine) and yeah they 
>> were a little sluggish, though not the end of the world. On my El Clem, I 
>> went with Rene Herse Switchback Hill EL. Pretty dreamy. I would never 
>> describe a Clem as a lumbering hulk, though, so your mileage may vary.  
>> Before getting a smaller bike I would drop a buck sixty on some fancy tires 
>> and see what happens.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:37:33 PM UTC-5 Jim Whorton wrote:
>>
>>> I have a 59cm Clem H that is a little too big for me (I am 6' 1", 89 
>>> PBH).  So I was riding it on some hilly pavement today, thinking what a 
>>> lumbering hulk this bike is and how I need a smaller one.  I came across a 
>>> piece of iron pipe in the road.  I thought, "I need to tie that on my bike 
>>> because it will make everything worse, proving my point."  I tied it on the 
>>> bike and to my confusion, the bike rode more smoothly.  It felt great.  It 
>>> didn't feel faster but it felt easier and just really nice.  Smoother.  The 
>>> simplest explanation is that I am confused and imagining things, because 
>>> adding pounds to my Clem H should not make it nicer to ride.  Butis it 
>>> possible I was not confused?
>>>
>>> I will try to insert a picture.  
>>>
>>> Jim in Rochester
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1544.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[James Whorton]

Thanks for the ideas and observations, everyone.  I will try lowering the
tire pressure tomorrow.  New tires soon, too.

Jason and Mark, I think you are right that the Clem *ought* to fit me.  By
the numbers it does.  My favorite bike to ride around town is an old
mountain bike with a 53cm seat tube that ought to be too small for me, but
it's sprightly and a lot of fun to ride.

I'm not sure why I picked up the pipe, Jason.  It seemed like a good pipe.

Jim


On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 10:40 PM Mark Roland 
wrote:

> I doubt the pipe is doing much for your Clem other than perhaps
> contributing to some beausage on your top tube. The bike certainly doesn't
> seem like it would be too big for a 6'1"--Grant runs a 59 Clem and he is
> under six foot.
>
> I never changed the Kendas on my OC (Original Clementine) and yeah they
> were a little sluggish, though not the end of the world. On my El Clem, I
> went with Rene Herse Switchback Hill EL. Pretty dreamy. I would never
> describe a Clem as a lumbering hulk, though, so your mileage may vary.
> Before getting a smaller bike I would drop a buck sixty on some fancy tires
> and see what happens.
>
> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:37:33 PM UTC-5 Jim Whorton wrote:
>
>> I have a 59cm Clem H that is a little too big for me (I am 6' 1", 89
>> PBH).  So I was riding it on some hilly pavement today, thinking what a
>> lumbering hulk this bike is and how I need a smaller one.  I came across a
>> piece of iron pipe in the road.  I thought, "I need to tie that on my bike
>> because it will make everything worse, proving my point."  I tied it on the
>> bike and to my confusion, the bike rode more smoothly.  It felt great.  It
>> didn't feel faster but it felt easier and just really nice.  Smoother.  The
>> simplest explanation is that I am confused and imagining things, because
>> adding pounds to my Clem H should not make it nicer to ride.  Butis it
>> possible I was not confused?
>>
>> I will try to insert a picture.
>>
>> Jim in Rochester
>>
>> [image: IMG_1544.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Mark Roland]

I doubt the pipe is doing much for your Clem other than perhaps 
contributing to some beausage on your top tube. The bike certainly doesn't 
seem like it would be too big for a 6'1"--Grant runs a 59 Clem and he is 
under six foot. 

I never changed the Kendas on my OC (Original Clementine) and yeah they 
were a little sluggish, though not the end of the world. On my El Clem, I 
went with Rene Herse Switchback Hill EL. Pretty dreamy. I would never 
describe a Clem as a lumbering hulk, though, so your mileage may vary.  
Before getting a smaller bike I would drop a buck sixty on some fancy tires 
and see what happens.

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:37:33 PM UTC-5 Jim Whorton wrote:

> I have a 59cm Clem H that is a little too big for me (I am 6' 1", 89 
> PBH).  So I was riding it on some hilly pavement today, thinking what a 
> lumbering hulk this bike is and how I need a smaller one.  I came across a 
> piece of iron pipe in the road.  I thought, "I need to tie that on my bike 
> because it will make everything worse, proving my point."  I tied it on the 
> bike and to my confusion, the bike rode more smoothly.  It felt great.  It 
> didn't feel faster but it felt easier and just really nice.  Smoother.  The 
> simplest explanation is that I am confused and imagining things, because 
> adding pounds to my Clem H should not make it nicer to ride.  Butis it 
> possible I was not confused?
>
> I will try to insert a picture.  
>
> Jim in Rochester
>
> [image: IMG_1544.jpg]
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Joe Bernard]

The pipe idea is pretty awesome. "Hey, there's a pipe. Let's try it!" 


On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:42:13 PM UTC-8 J L wrote:

> A couple of notes here...
>
> From the picture it doesn’t LOOK like this bike is too big. I don’t see 
> any outlandish attempts to make it fit, super short stem or seat very low 
> and forward, for example. You can decide for yourself, but if you are on 
> the fence, my two cents are that the bike is bigger by the numbers than you 
> would expect, given how well it fits, but it does fit well.
>
> When you install new tires check the tire pressure. You might be surprised 
> are how much difference that makes. The added weight of the pipe could be 
> giving you the same effect that lower tire pressure. 
>
> Also I just want to point out that it is a very respectably weird thing to 
> see a big pipe and decide to strap it to your bike. :) Did I miss something 
> in your original post? What was the logic sequence there?
>
> Jason
> SF,CA
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[J L]

A couple of notes here...

>From the picture it doesn’t LOOK like this bike is too big. I don’t see any 
>outlandish attempts to make it fit, super short stem or seat very low and 
>forward, for example. You can decide for yourself, but if you are on the 
>fence, my two cents are that the bike is bigger by the numbers than you would 
>expect, given how well it fits, but it does fit well.

When you install new tires check the tire pressure. You might be surprised are 
how much difference that makes. The added weight of the pipe could be giving 
you the same effect that lower tire pressure. 

Also I just want to point out that it is a very respectably weird thing to see 
a big pipe and decide to strap it to your bike. :)  Did I miss something in 
your original post? What was the logic sequence there?

Jason
SF,CA


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Re: [RBW] Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Joe Bernard]

Those Kendas are atrocious. I *gave *somebody a new set and I still think 
they paid too much. 

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 5:53:40 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:

> I do still have the Kwik Nines on there.  I've been thinking about 
> changing them...guess I should.  Sometimes on smooth pavement I get a drum 
> roll effect that I believe is caused by the tread pattern on those tires.
>
> Sounds like I should keep the pipe and add a kid or two, though?  Joe, 
> thanks for that term, "road-hugging weight."  That's just how it felt.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 8:41:03 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> If you're still running the stock Kendas, immediately remove them and put 
>> virtually any other tire on there, and it will improve the zippy feeling 
>> greatly. Honestly, those Kenda Kwik Nines are the worst tires I've ever 
>> come across. I suggest after removing you cut them in half, so some other 
>> unknowing person doesn't accidentally use them. OK, maybe being facetious 
>> there, but man, I hate those tires.
>>
>> Eric
>> not a Kwik Nine fan
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 6:37 PM Jim Whorton  wrote:
>>
> I have a 59cm Clem H that is a little too big for me (I am 6' 1", 89 
>>> PBH).  So I was riding it on some hilly pavement today, thinking what a 
>>> lumbering hulk this bike is and how I need a smaller one.  I came across a 
>>> piece of iron pipe in the road.  I thought, "I need to tie that on my bike 
>>> because it will make everything worse, proving my point."  I tied it on the 
>>> bike and to my confusion, the bike rode more smoothly.  It felt great.  It 
>>> didn't feel faster but it felt easier and just really nice.  Smoother.  The 
>>> simplest explanation is that I am confused and imagining things, because 
>>> adding pounds to my Clem H should not make it nicer to ride.  Butis it 
>>> possible I was not confused?
>>>
>>> I will try to insert a picture.  
>>>
>>> Jim in Rochester
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_1544.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Jim Whorton]

I do still have the Kwik Nines on there.  I've been thinking about changing 
them...guess I should.  Sometimes on smooth pavement I get a drum roll 
effect that I believe is caused by the tread pattern on those tires.

Sounds like I should keep the pipe and add a kid or two, though?  Joe, 
thanks for that term, "road-hugging weight."  That's just how it felt.

Jim



On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 8:41:03 PM UTC-5, Eric Daume wrote:
>
> If you're still running the stock Kendas, immediately remove them and put 
> virtually any other tire on there, and it will improve the zippy feeling 
> greatly. Honestly, those Kenda Kwik Nines are the worst tires I've ever 
> come across. I suggest after removing you cut them in half, so some other 
> unknowing person doesn't accidentally use them. OK, maybe being facetious 
> there, but man, I hate those tires.
>
> Eric
> not a Kwik Nine fan
>
> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 6:37 PM Jim Whorton  > wrote:
>
>> I have a 59cm Clem H that is a little too big for me (I am 6' 1", 89 
>> PBH).  So I was riding it on some hilly pavement today, thinking what a 
>> lumbering hulk this bike is and how I need a smaller one.  I came across a 
>> piece of iron pipe in the road.  I thought, "I need to tie that on my bike 
>> because it will make everything worse, proving my point."  I tied it on the 
>> bike and to my confusion, the bike rode more smoothly.  It felt great.  It 
>> didn't feel faster but it felt easier and just really nice.  Smoother.  The 
>> simplest explanation is that I am confused and imagining things, because 
>> adding pounds to my Clem H should not make it nicer to ride.  Butis it 
>> possible I was not confused?
>>
>> I will try to insert a picture.  
>>
>> Jim in Rochester
>>
>> [image: IMG_1544.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Come ride a Riv in Charlotte, NC

[Joe Bernard]

A red raspberry Platy piloted by our Bicycle Belle Ding Ding?? If I ever 
end up on a ride with her I already have a list of excuses I'm bringing 
with me: I was ill recently, my bike needs a tune, I overtrained yesterday, 
I had a flat, didn't eat enough and I forgot to fill my water bottle! 


On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:38:49 AM UTC-8 Mark Roland wrote:

> Red raspberry being the fastest color in the known universe, doubly so 
> when applied to a Platypus, the answer is, of course.
>
> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 8:41:37 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I would LOVE to go for a Pamela Murray ride. The question is: Could I 
>> keep up with her?!?
>>
>> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 1:58:34 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>>
>>> My sister and family lived in Highland Creek for 10ish years and it was 
>>> lovely!  My nephew now lives in Monroe and I'm hoping one day to visit and 
>>> see his babies.  Perhaps you and I can get together and go for a ride!
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 1:54:37 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>>
 Thanks to John De Lisle Crofts for letting me know my postcard is in 
 Grant's lastest blog post.  If anyone wants to ride a Betty or Cheviot, 
 please come to Charlotte, NC.  I have a 47 and 50 Betty and a 55 and 60 
 Cheviot.  All set up a little different.  Come try out some bags, pedals, 
 bars, etc.  or just come ride.  I also teach Cycling Savvy monthly.  You 
 can take the course while you're here.  Or come borrow a bike and do a 
 S24O.  You can borrow everything to see how you like it.  Our nearest 
 local 
 campground is 26 miles out.  I usually have a Warm Showers room but due to 
 COVID don't like anyone in the house but you can camp in the backyard or 
 screened in back porch.  Here's a better picture.  I was rushed getting my 
 cards out so I didn't choose the best picture.   
>>>
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[RBW] FS: Cork Grips

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Never used, as shown. $20

Jeff
(Alabama)

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[RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[dougP]

My Atlantis has a much softer, more cushy ride with 20-30 lbs of weight.  
The cost is slower acceleration & generally more effort.  

OTH, I've ridden the long wheelbase Atlantis & even unloaded it rides 
noticeably softer than my 2003.  The longer chainstays probably account for 
that.

dougP

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 3:37:33 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:

> I have a 59cm Clem H that is a little too big for me (I am 6' 1", 89 
> PBH).  So I was riding it on some hilly pavement today, thinking what a 
> lumbering hulk this bike is and how I need a smaller one.  I came across a 
> piece of iron pipe in the road.  I thought, "I need to tie that on my bike 
> because it will make everything worse, proving my point."  I tied it on the 
> bike and to my confusion, the bike rode more smoothly.  It felt great.  It 
> didn't feel faster but it felt easier and just really nice.  Smoother.  The 
> simplest explanation is that I am confused and imagining things, because 
> adding pounds to my Clem H should not make it nicer to ride.  Butis it 
> possible I was not confused?
>
> I will try to insert a picture.  
>
> Jim in Rochester
>
> [image: IMG_1544.jpg]
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Bones]

Makes sense to me. I ride around with two kids on my bike all the time 
(first an Appaloosa with one kid in front and one in back, now a Clem L 
with an xtracycle). They both cruise like Impalas. On the other end I 
stripped the stock wheels off my Clem H and put on some cliffhangers + 
thunderburts tubeless and saw a night and day improvement in handling while 
unloaded. Please let us know what else you decide to tie to your bicycle. 
Brilliant.

Bones

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 6:48:44 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> That's what car ads in the '60s called road-hugging weight. To extend the 
> car analogy, I've had several lighter/smaller ones with decent power, and 
> now a basic big Chevy Impala with a little more power and a LOT more 
> weight. It's probably not any faster than those hot hatches but oh baby 
> does it cruise at 72 without a care in the world. 
>
> Your gorgeous Clem is showing a similar effect. Put more bags and stuff on 
> it and cruise! 
>
> On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 3:37:33 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:
>
>> I have a 59cm Clem H that is a little too big for me (I am 6' 1", 89 
>> PBH).  So I was riding it on some hilly pavement today, thinking what a 
>> lumbering hulk this bike is and how I need a smaller one.  I came across a 
>> piece of iron pipe in the road.  I thought, "I need to tie that on my bike 
>> because it will make everything worse, proving my point."  I tied it on the 
>> bike and to my confusion, the bike rode more smoothly.  It felt great.  It 
>> didn't feel faster but it felt easier and just really nice.  Smoother.  The 
>> simplest explanation is that I am confused and imagining things, because 
>> adding pounds to my Clem H should not make it nicer to ride.  Butis it 
>> possible I was not confused?
>>
>> I will try to insert a picture.  
>>
>> Jim in Rochester
>>
>> [image: IMG_1544.jpg]
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Joe Bernard]

That's what car ads in the '60s called road-hugging weight. To extend the 
car analogy, I've had several lighter/smaller ones with decent power, and 
now a basic big Chevy Impala with a little more power and a LOT more 
weight. It's probably not any faster than those hot hatches but oh baby 
does it cruise at 72 without a care in the world. 

Your gorgeous Clem is showing a similar effect. Put more bags and stuff on 
it and cruise! 

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 3:37:33 PM UTC-8 Jim Whorton wrote:

> I have a 59cm Clem H that is a little too big for me (I am 6' 1", 89 
> PBH).  So I was riding it on some hilly pavement today, thinking what a 
> lumbering hulk this bike is and how I need a smaller one.  I came across a 
> piece of iron pipe in the road.  I thought, "I need to tie that on my bike 
> because it will make everything worse, proving my point."  I tied it on the 
> bike and to my confusion, the bike rode more smoothly.  It felt great.  It 
> didn't feel faster but it felt easier and just really nice.  Smoother.  The 
> simplest explanation is that I am confused and imagining things, because 
> adding pounds to my Clem H should not make it nicer to ride.  Butis it 
> possible I was not confused?
>
> I will try to insert a picture.  
>
> Jim in Rochester
>
> [image: IMG_1544.jpg]
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Weight question / I'm obviously confused

[Eric Floden]

No idea, but will read responses to find out. However, great light, great
pic

thanks

EricF
Vancouver

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Building of a Platypus: A Diary

[Roberta]

I just love seeing your bike and everyone else's.  Gives me so many ideas!  

The rack is very sophisticated looking.  I might need to think which rack 
I'll be getting.  And, yes, color wherever you can put it!  

I know you're enjoying the ride.

Roberta

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 3:19:20 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> [image: 37AB5192-6F99-401B-94A7-D3B699C5A19F.jpeg]
>
> [image: 2775-D7F6-4B22-B46D-CB7F30AFFA59.jpeg][image: 
> 81DEB533-D008-4EEE-BFF5-E54203704BB8.jpeg][image: 
> E5D1C8B6-1B9E-4A5E-88ED-8E27139C0C02.jpeg][image: 
> 031169B1-8B31-4AC0-8E2A-1A10724976A3.jpeg]
> A quick update to this thread since I’ve changed the bike a bit.
>
> I decided I couldn’t be without a rear rack. I wanted to keep the bike 
> light without hamstringing it. The med Nitto Big Back Rack from my Betty 
> didn’t fit the 700c wheels, so I had to either choose the large or go 
> another route. I chose the RBW-51, fairy-like and light, as it would 
> support a saddle sack without obscuring the beauty of the frame. And it 
> weighed half of what the large Nitto did.
>
> My bike is an anomaly in a sea of carbon road bikes and mountain bikes at 
> the LBS, but those mechanics do me right. “It’s perfectly level!” I said of 
> my new rack. “I know,” said the mechanic, “because I used an actual level.” 
> See how the rack disappears under the bag! I really don’t think the RBW-51 
> gets enough good press. It’s unobtrusive, delicate, and will work great 
> with a saddle sack. Hurry and get one for your Platy!
>
> These valve stems and caps, anodized (Analog again) in teal and rose were 
> late to the party, but I’ve got them now. Upon first glance, you’d think it 
> was a waste, but no, I notice them every time I see my bike. My Clem has 
> fuchsia and burnt orange, and I’ve never gotten over them. These are the 
> details that mean so much to me. Grant said perfectly about head badges how 
> I FEEL about little sparks of color on my bike: “They shouldn’t shout 
> stuff, but they should be worth a closer look if you’re looking at them at 
> all, and then they should make you glad you looked.”
>
> Here it is pictured dressed up in neutral gray bags with that luscious 
> raspberry and cream paint. Note the missing trouser guard - Rivendell was 
> sold out, so I sent mine to Analog to be anodized in rose, along with 
> headset collars (or whatever they are), brake levers and some bolts. This 
> should bring out more of the rose and tie it together with the teal. We 
> initially planned for Velocity Quill rims in polished rose, but they were 
> so hopelessly backordered that I went with the available polished silver 
> Quills. Hoping this gives this pretty little Platy a beautiful, polished 
> and finished look. 
>
> This bike has taken forever to put together, but it’s been a fun project 
> and well worth the wait. I’ve not got the miles on it that I should have 
> because it’s spent much of my custody of it waiting for parts. But I bet 
> I’ve got a few hundred miles on it, and the layer of dirt on the down tubes 
> and in the drive train back support my claim. The paint hides grime 
> surprisingly well! Another magical attribute of this enigmatic, pretty 
> little Platy. 
>
> Leah
>
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 7:19:47 AM UTC-8 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
>> Late to the party, though I've seen v nice pics on IG. 
>>
>> Gorgeous bike... that raspberry is perfect. And the blue ano pedals are 
>> just like platy-feet.
>>
>> Seems like this LBS is a good one: humble, willing to listen and learn, 
>> and trying to please. I like how they didn't think the kickstand bolt was 
>> attractive enough for the build. That's attention to detail! 
>>
>> Tailwinds, LP!
>> shoji
>> Arlington MA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:15:49 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Mike - SON something or other on the tail light. And Edelux II on the 
>>> headlight! Thanks!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Stunning, I love that color, and the combo with teal. OK, but what tail 
>>> light is that?
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 7:31:54 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 " ...double hearts, one on the head tube and one only an inch away on 
 the down tube, "

 I meant the double hearts are on the head tube and top tube (which 
 slopes down),

 On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 8:30:16 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> It’s  just beautiful, and the proportions with the 700c wheels look 
> perfect to my eyes. Love the teal pedals, what a great amount of color. I 
> think though my favorite feature is the double hearts, one on the head 
> tube 
> and one only an inch away on the down tube, both facing the rider.  Leah, 
> perhaps you can get a closeup of that?
>
> Happy riding. I hope ( know) it becomes the bike of your dreams. 
>
> Roberta 
>
> On 

Re: [RBW] Re: The Building of a Platypus: A Diary

[Joe Bernard]

I love that rack. When you started on this project of getting one that 
wouldn't obscure the taillight, I figured it was going to kind of hide the 
look even if you could visibly see the light at night. Nope! It hovers just 
above and slightly in front of the light so you see the whole aesthetic 
vibe that was there before. Oy, I can tell that doesn't make sense. I liked 
the fender/light look and it's still there!

Speaking of such matters (I bought that rack, too, and love it), Riv needs 
to update the photos on the site to show how minimalist and whispy it is. 
All their pics show it mounted on the front and it looks HUGE. 

Joe "still a little loopy from the vaccine yesterday, can't type a clear 
sentence to save his life" Bernard

On Saturday, January 9, 2021 at 12:19:20 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> [image: 37AB5192-6F99-401B-94A7-D3B699C5A19F.jpeg]
>
> [image: 2775-D7F6-4B22-B46D-CB7F30AFFA59.jpeg][image: 
> 81DEB533-D008-4EEE-BFF5-E54203704BB8.jpeg][image: 
> E5D1C8B6-1B9E-4A5E-88ED-8E27139C0C02.jpeg][image: 
> 031169B1-8B31-4AC0-8E2A-1A10724976A3.jpeg]
> A quick update to this thread since I’ve changed the bike a bit.
>
> I decided I couldn’t be without a rear rack. I wanted to keep the bike 
> light without hamstringing it. The med Nitto Big Back Rack from my Betty 
> didn’t fit the 700c wheels, so I had to either choose the large or go 
> another route. I chose the RBW-51, fairy-like and light, as it would 
> support a saddle sack without obscuring the beauty of the frame. And it 
> weighed half of what the large Nitto did.
>
> My bike is an anomaly in a sea of carbon road bikes and mountain bikes at 
> the LBS, but those mechanics do me right. “It’s perfectly level!” I said of 
> my new rack. “I know,” said the mechanic, “because I used an actual level.” 
> See how the rack disappears under the bag! I really don’t think the RBW-51 
> gets enough good press. It’s unobtrusive, delicate, and will work great 
> with a saddle sack. Hurry and get one for your Platy!
>
> These valve stems and caps, anodized (Analog again) in teal and rose were 
> late to the party, but I’ve got them now. Upon first glance, you’d think it 
> was a waste, but no, I notice them every time I see my bike. My Clem has 
> fuchsia and burnt orange, and I’ve never gotten over them. These are the 
> details that mean so much to me. Grant said perfectly about head badges how 
> I FEEL about little sparks of color on my bike: “They shouldn’t shout 
> stuff, but they should be worth a closer look if you’re looking at them at 
> all, and then they should make you glad you looked.”
>
> Here it is pictured dressed up in neutral gray bags with that luscious 
> raspberry and cream paint. Note the missing trouser guard - Rivendell was 
> sold out, so I sent mine to Analog to be anodized in rose, along with 
> headset collars (or whatever they are), brake levers and some bolts. This 
> should bring out more of the rose and tie it together with the teal. We 
> initially planned for Velocity Quill rims in polished rose, but they were 
> so hopelessly backordered that I went with the available polished silver 
> Quills. Hoping this gives this pretty little Platy a beautiful, polished 
> and finished look. 
>
> This bike has taken forever to put together, but it’s been a fun project 
> and well worth the wait. I’ve not got the miles on it that I should have 
> because it’s spent much of my custody of it waiting for parts. But I bet 
> I’ve got a few hundred miles on it, and the layer of dirt on the down tubes 
> and in the drive train back support my claim. The paint hides grime 
> surprisingly well! Another magical attribute of this enigmatic, pretty 
> little Platy. 
>
> Leah
>
> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 7:19:47 AM UTC-8 Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>
>> Late to the party, though I've seen v nice pics on IG. 
>>
>> Gorgeous bike... that raspberry is perfect. And the blue ano pedals are 
>> just like platy-feet.
>>
>> Seems like this LBS is a good one: humble, willing to listen and learn, 
>> and trying to please. I like how they didn't think the kickstand bolt was 
>> attractive enough for the build. That's attention to detail! 
>>
>> Tailwinds, LP!
>> shoji
>> Arlington MA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 11:15:49 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> Mike - SON something or other on the tail light. And Edelux II on the 
>>> headlight! Thanks!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 8:09 PM, Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>>
>>> Stunning, I love that color, and the combo with teal. OK, but what tail 
>>> light is that?
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike SLO CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 7:31:54 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>>>
 " ...double hearts, one on the head tube and one only an inch away on 
 the down tube, "

 I meant the double hearts are on the head tube and top tube (which 
 slopes down),

 On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 8:30:16 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

[RBW] Re: WTB: Paul touring cantis

[saintruggler]

PM sent.

On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 2:13:05 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> If anyone has a set of Paul touring cantis for two wheels that they'd be 
> willing to part with please hit me up! 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Chambray shirt deal alert

[Dave Grossman]

I bought one and I think it is fantastic.  Thanks for the OP and the heads 
up!

On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:01:23 PM UTC-6 J Schwartz wrote:

> Medium shirt is sold
> thanks everyone 
>
> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 3:27:53 PM UTC-5 J Schwartz wrote:
>
>>
>> Pit-to-Pit : 22"
>> across shoulder along yoke: 16"
>> sleeve: 24"
>> I've had some interest but no sale yetthere are a couple people 
>> potentially in line however
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: Pair of Schwalbe G-One Speeds 650b X 50MM $75 shipped CONUS

[Alex K]

Pair of tires.  Ridden once.  I hate the orange color, thought it was going 
to be more of a tan.  Such is the life of an acquisitioholic.  Hoping to 
find a good home and a little bit of cash towards some Rene Herse tires.
$75 shipped, or $70 if you are somewhere on the BART line.

Cheers,
Alex

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[RBW] Re: FS: Medium Sackville Saddlesack + Fender flaps

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

Price reduced to $125 for the saddlesack and $20 for the fender flaps.

Jeff
Mobile, Alabama

On Wednesday, December 30, 2020 at 1:01:24 PM UTC-6 jeffbog...@hotmail.com 
wrote:

> Olive Saddlesack w/kangaroo pouch - $150
> Grey Fender flaps - $30/both
> Thanks for looking!
>
> Jeff
>

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[RBW] Bicycle brake toe-in with James May from Top Gear

[Michael Morrissey]

Hi,

Perhaps there are some fans of Top Gear from BBC on this board. Here is a 
great video with James May explaining toe-in on his road bike:
https://youtu.be/sqf2rE9PYgM

If you've got time in quarantine, you may also like his shows "The 
Reassembler" in which he builds common items from parts in real time, and 
his show "Oz and James's Big Wine Adventure", in which he talks about 
grapes.

Michael

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[RBW] Re: Come ride a Riv in Charlotte, NC

[Mark Roland]

Red raspberry being the fastest color in the known universe, doubly so when 
applied to a Platypus, the answer is, of course.

On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 8:41:37 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I would LOVE to go for a Pamela Murray ride. The question is: Could I keep 
> up with her?!?
>
> On Friday, January 8, 2021 at 1:58:34 PM UTC-8 Roberta wrote:
>
>> My sister and family lived in Highland Creek for 10ish years and it was 
>> lovely!  My nephew now lives in Monroe and I'm hoping one day to visit and 
>> see his babies.  Perhaps you and I can get together and go for a ride!
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Thursday, December 31, 2020 at 1:54:37 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks to John De Lisle Crofts for letting me know my postcard is in 
>>> Grant's lastest blog post.  If anyone wants to ride a Betty or Cheviot, 
>>> please come to Charlotte, NC.  I have a 47 and 50 Betty and a 55 and 60 
>>> Cheviot.  All set up a little different.  Come try out some bags, pedals, 
>>> bars, etc.  or just come ride.  I also teach Cycling Savvy monthly.  You 
>>> can take the course while you're here.  Or come borrow a bike and do a 
>>> S24O.  You can borrow everything to see how you like it.  Our nearest local 
>>> campground is 26 miles out.  I usually have a Warm Showers room but due to 
>>> COVID don't like anyone in the house but you can camp in the backyard or 
>>> screened in back porch.  Here's a better picture.  I was rushed getting my 
>>> cards out so I didn't choose the best picture.   
>>
>>

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