Re: [RBW] 22.2 interrupter levers?

[Jay]

I have used a paul cross lever sized 26.0 with a shim for this.

J

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 5:06 PM J L  wrote:

>
> Hello all,
>
> Do interrupter style brake levers exist for 22.2 bars (standard mtb bars)?
>
> I imagine having an tosco, losco, or bosco bars with brake levers all the
> way back for upright ridding and a second set near the stem for the
> occasional long and low position might be nice.
>
> Jason
> SFCA
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Re: [RBW] Yet another round of name that sound

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Have you tried taking off the cassette and lightly greasing the splines before 
reassembling? I used to get a similar sound on my Campy freehub-equipped bikes, 
and this always worked.

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> On Jul 22, 2021, at 2:49 PM, RichS  wrote:
> 
> Hello David,
> 
> Lots of helpful solutions provided by the group so I'm sure you'll discover 
> the problem soon. In addition to the cassette noise do you notice a creaky 
> sound coming from your stem? Perhaps the sounds are coming from multiple 
> locations? 
> 
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
> 
> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 10:28:17 AM UTC-4 bdcamp...@gmail.com wrote:
> I would try the following (assumning you have not already):
> 
> 1. Swap the bb.
> 2. Light bit of grease of the tapers when installing the cranks
> 3. Uninstall and re-install the cassette
> 4. Check the chain for wear and make sure the master link is proerly secured.
> 5. Check the front derailer adujustment to make sure the cage it not hitting 
> the chain or possibly somethig else
> 6. If you re wearing cleated shoes make sure the cleats are tight. Lower 
> gearrs means lower pressure/contact with the pedals.
> 7.  Make sure the chainring bolts are tight.
> 8. IS the spacer (if there is one for 11 speed ) the correct width?
> 
> Good luck and hope you solve it quickly!
> 
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 11:47:06 AM UTC-4 brettjc...@gmail.com 
>  wrote:
> This is going to sound crazy, but is it the saddle, seatpost, or their 
> interface? That's happened to me more than once, and I've chased sounds that 
> I'm sure are bottom bracket, crank, or cassette related only to discover that 
> in certain gears or at certain effort levels, my saddle is clicking. (In 
> fact, this is happening with a Berthoud on my NFE at the moment. It only 
> clicks when I shift my weight and ride upright at low cadence). 
> 
> Just a thought...
> Brett in Portland
> 
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 5:35:26 AM UTC-7 David Wadstrup wrote:
> We've played this game before, and I'm reluctant to begin another round.  But 
> after a fruitless deep dive into a general internet search trying to identify 
> the source of my sound, I thought bringing up my issue here might be of help. 
>  Here goes
> 
> I am the proud owner of a beautiful, creamsicle colored Roadeo that I 
> purchased from a fellow list member here a couple of years ago.  I purchased 
> only the frameset, and built up it up myself.  A short while ago I began to 
> notice a creaking, clicking, cracking-type sound when climbing steep-ish 
> hills.  I loosened and re-tightened just about everything(except the bottom 
> bracket) in an attempt to fix whatever the source of the sound might be.  No 
> luck.  While out on a ride yesterday, I noticed that the sound was apparently 
> getting worse.  I started to fear that there was maybe a crack somewhere in 
> the frame, and made a plan to remove the crank and re-install the BB to 
> eliminate it as a possible source(which I ended up not doing.)  But further 
> into the ride, I happened to discover that the sound only occurs when I am in 
> one of the 3 largest cogs on the cassette.  I made about 7 or 8 trips up and 
> down one of the steeper hills on my route, and was able to confirm that it 
> did not happen in the 4th, or 5th, or any other cog in back -- just the 3 
> largest.  
> 
> For clarification, I am running a Shimano 11sp Ultegra group.  The sound is 
> NOT regular.  Meaning that it doesn't occur in the same place in either my 
> wheel's or crank's rotation. It happens both when seated and while I am out 
> of the saddle. It is more of a cracking, creaking, sound rather than a 
> clicking sound(although it does sound clicky,) if that makes any sense.  It 
> sounds like what I'd imagine a a cracked something-or-other to sound like.
> 
> I suppose I'll remove and reinstall the cassette when I get a chance, but 
> figured I reach out to you all to see whether anyone has an inkling of what 
> the trouble might be.  Please let me know your thoughts!
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Nigel Smythe Small Trunksack

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Sorry for the multiple posts about this fine bag. These messages and a bunch of 
others from the RBW group ended up in my Junk folder for some reason, so I kept 
re-sending thinking I had done something wrong.

Bag is still available.

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> On Jul 22, 2021, at 4:08 PM, 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> Switching to a larger bag, so this one needs a new home. Nice condition, with 
> just enough beausage. No rips or tears.  Clean but not pristine. $80 shipped 
> in the USA. 
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[RBW] 22.2 interrupter levers?

[J L]

Hello all,

Do interrupter style brake levers exist for 22.2 bars (standard mtb bars)?

I imagine having an tosco, losco, or bosco bars with brake levers all the way 
back for upright ridding and a second set near the stem for the occasional long 
and low position might be nice.

Jason
SFCA

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Re: [RBW] Billie Bars 58cm Nitto Al

[Matthew Williams]

Bars have been sold!



On Jul 19, 2021, at 1:17 PM, Matthew Williams  
wrote:

> I don't think so. The OD appears consistent everywhere except the section at 
> the stem/center.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 19, 2021, at 1:04 PM, Collin A  wrote:
> 
>> Are these ones that have the slightly undersized OD on the grip section?
>> 
>> Collin in Sacramento
>> 
>> On Monday, July 19, 2021 at 11:48:30 AM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>> 
>> 58cm aluminum Nitto Billie Bars.
>> In excellent condition.
>> $75, plus shipping in the US of A.
>> Local pickup: San Francisco east bay area.
>> 
>> I bought them from Kai, but they're not quite right for me, so back on sale 
>> they go!
>> 
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[RBW] FS: Nigel Smythe Small Trunksack

['Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I’m switching to a larger bag and have this one to sell. Same basic dimensions 
as the Small Trunksack that Riv sells now.

$80 shipped in the USA.

Email me for photos.

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Brake Levers

[Kathy Carroll]

Thanks. I think I have it covered. I appreciate everyone that reached out
to me on this. I knew my problem could be solved in this group.

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 5:16 AM lconley  wrote:

> I will check to see what I have when I get home tonight.
> Laing
>
> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 8:11:02 AM UTC-4 KC wrote:
>
>> Bosco
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 5:05 AM lconley  wrote:
>>
>>> Drop bar or flat bar? I have a bunch of brake levers.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 11:56:27 PM UTC-4 KC wrote:
>>>
 Due to some stupid mix-up I have only 1 brake lever for my bike so I
 need to get a new set and that's not easy right now. I am hoping someone
 has some they will part with. Bike is a 50cm Cheviot with Tektro R559
 Brakes. Anyone have anything that will work for me? Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: Hub Identification Help

[Joe Bernard]

Yes, I had a pewter Saluki and it's a fascinating color that changes quite 
a bit depending on the light. It's kinda like the current grilver, maybe a 
smidge creamier. The creamy headtube adds to that effect, too. 



On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 2:51:43 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> The color is interesting. I also have never seen one in that color but I 
> found archived web content from Riv that said the two stock colors when 
> launched were green and pewter. The pewter is described as a "fawny 
> silver". Based on that description I would say this is pewter and it was a 
> stock color but most that I have seen were green.
>
> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 4:59:49 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:
>
>> Congratulations on the acquisition. Great looking Saluki:-) Didn't know 
>> Riv produced the Saluki in metallic beige(?). Have they used the color on 
>> any other models?
>> The proportions are just right with the 650b wheels. Enjoy! 
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
>> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 10:40:15 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 11:23:25 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 The XC Pro is a cassette hub?? Yep, that baby is rare, it came right at 
 the end of Maeda Suntour's run. Let's see your bike! 



 On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 7:22:06 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Rich has helped pretty much confirm that its a Suzue hub. Thanks for 
> the help! He also said the rear hub is great but with super specific and 
> rare cassettes. Great luck for me!
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 3:56:36 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Yep, that looks like the Suzue as seen on this pic of Sheldon Brown's 
>> Quickbeam. The high flange matched nicely with the rear singlespeed hub. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 5:39:15 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> My recently picked up Saluki is fantastic. I have been digging into 
>>> finding out some details about it and the biggest mystery has been the 
>>> front hub.  The shifters, FD, RD and rear hub are all Suntour XC Pro 
>>> which 
>>> was never really advertised as Rivendell parts they used but definitely 
>>> fit 
>>> into the mold of what they WOULD use.  Based on that I am pretty sure 
>>> that 
>>> the wheels were made at Rivendell.  The rims are pretty clearly 
>>> Velocity 
>>> Synergy. The only thing I couldn't figure out was the front hub which 
>>> is 
>>> unmarked. After some research I am pretty sure that it's a Suzue hub 
>>> that 
>>> Rivendell used for the Quickbeam wheels. Since the Quickbeam was 
>>> announced 
>>> around the same time it makes sense that Rivendell would have a bunch 
>>> of 
>>> these hubs around.  Here is a photo of the currently dull front hub.  
>>> Can 
>>> anyone with a Quickbeam with stock wheels confirm if this is what that 
>>> hub 
>>> looked like?
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Hub Identification Help

[Johnny Alien]

The color is interesting. I also have never seen one in that color but I 
found archived web content from Riv that said the two stock colors when 
launched were green and pewter. The pewter is described as a "fawny 
silver". Based on that description I would say this is pewter and it was a 
stock color but most that I have seen were green.

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 4:59:49 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:

> Congratulations on the acquisition. Great looking Saluki:-) Didn't know 
> Riv produced the Saluki in metallic beige(?). Have they used the color on 
> any other models?
> The proportions are just right with the 650b wheels. Enjoy! 
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 10:40:15 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 11:23:25 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> The XC Pro is a cassette hub?? Yep, that baby is rare, it came right at 
>>> the end of Maeda Suntour's run. Let's see your bike! 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 7:22:06 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 Rich has helped pretty much confirm that its a Suzue hub. Thanks for 
 the help! He also said the rear hub is great but with super specific and 
 rare cassettes. Great luck for me!

 On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 3:56:36 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Yep, that looks like the Suzue as seen on this pic of Sheldon Brown's 
> Quickbeam. The high flange matched nicely with the rear singlespeed hub. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 5:39:15 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> My recently picked up Saluki is fantastic. I have been digging into 
>> finding out some details about it and the biggest mystery has been the 
>> front hub.  The shifters, FD, RD and rear hub are all Suntour XC Pro 
>> which 
>> was never really advertised as Rivendell parts they used but definitely 
>> fit 
>> into the mold of what they WOULD use.  Based on that I am pretty sure 
>> that 
>> the wheels were made at Rivendell.  The rims are pretty clearly Velocity 
>> Synergy. The only thing I couldn't figure out was the front hub which is 
>> unmarked. After some research I am pretty sure that it's a Suzue hub 
>> that 
>> Rivendell used for the Quickbeam wheels. Since the Quickbeam was 
>> announced 
>> around the same time it makes sense that Rivendell would have a bunch of 
>> these hubs around.  Here is a photo of the currently dull front hub.  
>> Can 
>> anyone with a Quickbeam with stock wheels confirm if this is what that 
>> hub 
>> looked like?
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Yet another round of name that sound

[RichS]

Hello David,

Lots of helpful solutions provided by the group so I'm sure you'll discover 
the problem soon. In addition to the cassette noise do you notice a creaky 
sound coming from your stem? Perhaps the sounds are coming from multiple 
locations? 

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 10:28:17 AM UTC-4 bdcamp...@gmail.com wrote:

> I would try the following (assumning you have not already):
>
> 1. Swap the bb.
> 2. Light bit of grease of the tapers when installing the cranks
> 3. Uninstall and re-install the cassette
> 4. Check the chain for wear and make sure the master link is proerly 
> secured.
> 5. Check the front derailer adujustment to make sure the cage it not 
> hitting the chain or possibly somethig else
> 6. If you re wearing cleated shoes make sure the cleats are tight. Lower 
> gearrs means lower pressure/contact with the pedals.
> 7.  Make sure the chainring bolts are tight.
> 8. IS the spacer (if there is one for 11 speed ) the correct width?
>
> Good luck and hope you solve it quickly!
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 11:47:06 AM UTC-4 brettjc...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> This is going to sound crazy, but is it the saddle, seatpost, or their 
>> interface? That's happened to me more than once, and I've chased sounds 
>> that I'm sure are bottom bracket, crank, or cassette related only to 
>> discover that in certain gears or at certain effort levels, my saddle is 
>> clicking. (In fact, this is happening with a Berthoud on my NFE at the 
>> moment. It only clicks when I shift my weight and ride upright at low 
>> cadence). 
>>
>> Just a thought...
>> Brett in Portland
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 5:35:26 AM UTC-7 David Wadstrup wrote:
>>
>>> We've played this game before, and I'm reluctant to begin another round. 
>>>  But after a fruitless deep dive into a general internet search trying to 
>>> identify the source of my sound, I thought bringing up my issue here might 
>>> be of help.  Here goes
>>>
>>> I am the proud owner of a beautiful, creamsicle colored Roadeo that I 
>>> purchased from a fellow list member here a couple of years ago.  I 
>>> purchased only the frameset, and built up it up myself.  A short while ago 
>>> I began to notice a creaking, clicking, cracking-type sound when climbing 
>>> steep-ish hills.  I loosened and re-tightened just about everything(except 
>>> the bottom bracket) in an attempt to fix whatever the source of the sound 
>>> might be.  No luck.  While out on a ride yesterday, I noticed that the 
>>> sound was apparently getting worse.  I started to fear that there was maybe 
>>> a crack somewhere in the frame, and made a plan to remove the crank and 
>>> re-install the BB to eliminate it as a possible source(which I ended up not 
>>> doing.)  But further into the ride, I happened to discover that the sound 
>>> only occurs when I am in one of the 3 largest cogs on the cassette.  I made 
>>> about 7 or 8 trips up and down one of the steeper hills on my route, and 
>>> was able to confirm that it did not happen in the 4th, or 5th, or any other 
>>> cog in back -- just the 3 largest.  
>>>
>>> For clarification, I am running a Shimano 11sp Ultegra group.  The sound 
>>> is NOT regular.  Meaning that it doesn't occur in the same place in either 
>>> my wheel's or crank's rotation. It happens both when seated and while I am 
>>> out of the saddle. It is more of a cracking, creaking, sound rather than a 
>>> clicking sound(although it does sound clicky,) if that makes any sense.  It 
>>> sounds like what I'd imagine a a cracked something-or-other to sound like.
>>>
>>> I suppose I'll remove and reinstall the cassette when I get a chance, 
>>> but figured I reach out to you all to see whether anyone has an inkling of 
>>> what the trouble might be.  Please let me know your thoughts!
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Hub Identification Help

[RichS]

Congratulations on the acquisition. Great looking Saluki:-) Didn't know Riv 
produced the Saluki in metallic beige(?). Have they used the color on any 
other models?
The proportions are just right with the 650b wheels. Enjoy! 

Best,
Rich in ATL
On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 10:40:15 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 11:23:25 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> The XC Pro is a cassette hub?? Yep, that baby is rare, it came right at 
>> the end of Maeda Suntour's run. Let's see your bike! 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 7:22:06 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> Rich has helped pretty much confirm that its a Suzue hub. Thanks for the 
>>> help! He also said the rear hub is great but with super specific and rare 
>>> cassettes. Great luck for me!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 3:56:36 PM UTC-4 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Yep, that looks like the Suzue as seen on this pic of Sheldon Brown's 
 Quickbeam. The high flange matched nicely with the rear singlespeed hub. 

 Joe Bernard

 On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 5:39:15 AM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> My recently picked up Saluki is fantastic. I have been digging into 
> finding out some details about it and the biggest mystery has been the 
> front hub.  The shifters, FD, RD and rear hub are all Suntour XC Pro 
> which 
> was never really advertised as Rivendell parts they used but definitely 
> fit 
> into the mold of what they WOULD use.  Based on that I am pretty sure 
> that 
> the wheels were made at Rivendell.  The rims are pretty clearly Velocity 
> Synergy. The only thing I couldn't figure out was the front hub which is 
> unmarked. After some research I am pretty sure that it's a Suzue hub that 
> Rivendell used for the Quickbeam wheels. Since the Quickbeam was 
> announced 
> around the same time it makes sense that Rivendell would have a bunch of 
> these hubs around.  Here is a photo of the currently dull front hub.  Can 
> anyone with a Quickbeam with stock wheels confirm if this is what that 
> hub 
> looked like?



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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

['JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I was wrong about that Yves, the owner resisted it. Too bad it is too big for 
me, the effective TT more than anything else.

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On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 5:52 PM, Susanto Irwan  wrote:

> Atlantis size 56 650b
> $2,500
> Seattle, WA
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivedell-atlantis/7353547780.html
> On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 11:55:31 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:
>
>> The Yves is no longer for sale, the owner is undecided as to it’s fate.
>>
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>> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:07 AM, Matthew Williams  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yves Gomez (Betty Foy)
>>> 55cm
>>> $1975
>>> Suffield, CT
>>> https://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/d/suffield-rivendell-mixte-yves-gomez/7353643236.html
>>>
>>> Romulus F/F/Hs/brakes
>>> 63cm
>>> $600
>>> San Francisco, CA
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-63-cm-rivendell-romulus/7351906116.html
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Scott Calhoun]

Thanks for pointing out the extras David. I spied the third bottle 
braze-ons, and fork eyelets, but I didn't see the hidden rack braze-ons 
until you called the out. 



On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:12:06 AM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:

> It has some additions that I would look at as bonuses beyond the usual 
> Roadeo frame:
> Third set of water bottle braze-ons
> Mid fork leg eyelets for a front rack
> Two sets of rear dropout eyelets
> Rack braze-ons just above the rear brake bridge "hidden" on the inside of 
> the seat stays
> Nice!
>
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 4:33:53 PM UTC-7 Scott Calhoun wrote:
>
>> I had some credit and took a flyer on this one. I've wanted a Roadeo for 
>> many years. This one is an odd case, as TCP is calling it both a "Custom" 
>> and a "Roadeo." Vince at Riv HQ suggested that it could be from the time 
>> period when they weren't offering Roadeos per se? I called and got the 
>> serial number from TPC and it begins with MN, so Mark Nobilette built. From 
>> the geometry details they do list, it lines up with 63cm Rivendell Roadeo 
>> geometry from ~2017 or so. I'm going to see if Nobilette has any additional 
>> info about it. In any case, the TT length and Standover look very similar 
>> if not identical to my current 64cm Quickbeam, and former 64cm Ram, so I'm 
>> not worried about the fit. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 7:41:37 AM UTC-7 John M wrote:
>>
>>> Nice looking (and big!) Riv custom at the Pro's Closet:

>>>
>>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/rivendell-roadeo-xl
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Scott Calhoun]

It's a very Rivish build--so I'll probably ride it mostly as-is initially 
just to get a feel for it. I had an almost identical drivetrain on my Ram.  
Pros 
Closet says their boxing method should only require 15 minutes to assemble 
the bike. We'll see.

If I'm pleased with the ride and fit, I'll for sure put a lighter tubeless 
wheelset and tires on it. I have a silver Ritchey wheelset that would work 
great. I'm also more of a narrow Q-factor double chainring fan--so if I rob 
a bank or something, maybe I'll put a Rene Herse 46/30 crankset on it. 
Beyond that, I don't know. If I had a spare set of Dura Ace DT shifters, I 
might swap those out for the barends. 



On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 9:16:07 PM UTC-7 mma...@gmail.com wrote:

> Congrats! Any plans on changing the build or just ride as is? I do love a 
> turn-key used bike.
>
> On Wed, Jul 21, 2021 at 16:33 Scott Calhoun  wrote:
>
>> I had some credit and took a flyer on this one. I've wanted a Roadeo for 
>> many years. This one is an odd case, as TCP is calling it both a "Custom" 
>> and a "Roadeo." Vince at Riv HQ suggested that it could be from the time 
>> period when they weren't offering Roadeos per se? I called and got the 
>> serial number from TPC and it begins with MN, so Mark Nobilette built. From 
>> the geometry details they do list, it lines up with 63cm Rivendell Roadeo 
>> geometry from ~2017 or so. I'm going to see if Nobilette has any additional 
>> info about it. In any case, the TT length and Standover look very similar 
>> if not identical to my current 64cm Quickbeam, and former 64cm Ram, so I'm 
>> not worried about the fit. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 7:41:37 AM UTC-7 John M wrote:
>>
>>> Nice looking (and big!) Riv custom at the Pro's Closet:

>>>
>>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/rivendell-roadeo-xl
>>>
>>>  
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Kushan]

Thanks Mark. I am goign to play around with this a bit. My concern with 
mounting along seat tube is that the gap between the seat stay is pretty 
wide. While the peg will support the pump near the crank, there won't be 
any support on seat collar end. Will try it out and report the findings. 

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 5:59:12 AM UTC-7 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Kushan,
>
> Zefal makes plastic pump pegs that you can secure around any tube on your 
> bike. I'm using one on my Atlantis to hold a Zefal pump and it works great 
> (mine's an FPX , not an HPX, but they fit the pegs just the same). I've got 
> an extra one if you'd like, let's say $10 shipped. PM me if you're 
> interested. Cheers,
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2021, at 07:45, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Rad bike, Kushan, and congrats! 
>
>
> I don't have any experience hacking an HPX4 but maybe you could add some 
> felt washers to the piston between the handle and the main frame body to 
> effectively add to the overall length of the pump when compressed. 
>
> https://www.mcmaster.com/felt-washers/
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 1:43:24 AM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>
>> P.S. It turns out that my frame pump, Zefal HPX4, is a tad too short for 
>> 60 cm Appa (although it fits fine on 61 Roadini). To my knowledge, HPX4 is 
>> the largest size pump Zefal makes. If anyone has recommendations on larger 
>> frame pump (or hacks on how to make HPX4 work), please let me know. It's a 
>> bummer because I just got this one a few weeks ago.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 10:41:24 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>
>>> After a few weeks of obsessively checking, finally got a note from Will 
>>> that it's ready. Picked up my 60 cm Appaloosa arrived today. I took it for 
>>> a quick 10 mile spin on local paved trail and ride quality has exceeded 
>>> expectations. It is joyfully upright (Albatross bars), planted, and climbs 
>>> well. It makes me want to just keep pedaling and forget about things like 
>>> speed, heart rate, and strava. 
>>>
>>> Here are some pictures 
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 5:46:50 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 Thanks all for posting pictures of your Appaloosa builds. It has 
 inspired me to hang on to mine and give it more love. Question for those 
 of 
 you running wider tires (2.25) How much mud clearance does it leave when 
 riding a tire of that size. I am thinking about upgrading from 2.0 WTB 
 Venture tires to 2.25 Thunder Burts. Just wondering how well the tire will 
 fit on Cliffhanger rims. Would appreciate any insight on clearances. 

 On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-4 bp wrote:

> Brendon - Nitto Kite bars. Ordered from Blue Lug many years ago. Keep 
> swapping out, keep coming back time and again. Close matches are Soma 
> Osprey or Riv Wavie. Beartraps are OK. Comfortable. Aggressive grip on 
> shoes. And my shins/calves.
>
> Eric - that's out my front door in central Iowa. 
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 6:22:00 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Brent -- That's a nice looking bike there! The friscalating dusklight 
>> is complimentary. Where, geographically, are you riding? 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 2:58:24 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>
>>> BP, your bike build is excellent. Can I please ask which handlebar 
>>> that is and also do you like the new Beartrap pedals?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 14:50:15 UTC+8 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 Similar story, but my single TT 57cm just feels more right than my 
 58 double tt did. Better fit? Slightly more ideal geo? Just a better 
 colour?
 We aren't talking earth shattering differences, but the differences 
 are good ones.

 On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 10:43:35 UTC+8 Justin wrote:

> Fantastic Appaloosa! How the heck did I miss the memo that Riv was 
> now doing single top tube larger size bikes again? MY double top tube 
> size 
> 58 is free to a good home... in trade for a single top tube version.
>
> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 10:28:31 PM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>
>> It’s the Advent 1x9 with Microshift thumbie. I had it on hand 
>> before the Advent X came out, which currently doesn’t have thumb 
>> shifter or 
>> barcon options. Nice, economical system. 
>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 9:09:15 PM UTC-5 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Nice build! And the scenery isn't bad either. It looks like you 
>>> chose the Advent 1x10 drivetrain. Are you using the Microshift 
>>> thumb-shifter?
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 9:56 PM bp  wrote:
>>>
 After snagging one of the orange 60cm frames (completed 

Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Kushan]

Thanks Michael.

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 7:28:22 AM UTC-7 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> https://www.ebay.com/itm/291975824997
>
> the zefal pump pegs mentioned in this thread. although i'm not sure this 
> size pertains as I own one and tried using it, i don't recall where but it 
> was too big.
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:25:50 PM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for the compliment JS! It's a 56cm with 650b wheels. Such a 
>> fantastic bike. Cheers,
>>
>> ~Mark
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 09:34, J Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>> I think that's one of the nicest set-up MIT Atlantis' I've seen.  Is 
>> that a 56 or 53?
>>
>> JS
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:59:12 AM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Kushan,
>>>
>>> Zefal makes plastic pump pegs that you can secure around any tube on 
>>> your bike. I'm using one on my Atlantis to hold a Zefal pump and it works 
>>> great (mine's an FPX , not an HPX, but they fit the pegs just the same). 
>>> I've got an extra one if you'd like, let's say $10 shipped. PM me if you're 
>>> interested. Cheers,
>>>
>>> ~Mark
>>> Raleigh, NC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 07:45, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> Rad bike, Kushan, and congrats! 
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't have any experience hacking an HPX4 but maybe you could add some 
>>> felt washers to the piston between the handle and the main frame body to 
>>> effectively add to the overall length of the pump when compressed. 
>>>
>>> https://www.mcmaster.com/felt-washers/
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 1:43:24 AM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>>>
 P.S. It turns out that my frame pump, Zefal HPX4, is a tad too short 
 for 60 cm Appa (although it fits fine on 61 Roadini). To my knowledge, 
 HPX4 
 is the largest size pump Zefal makes. If anyone has recommendations on 
 larger frame pump (or hacks on how to make HPX4 work), please let me know. 
 It's a bummer because I just got this one a few weeks ago.

 On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 10:41:24 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:

> After a few weeks of obsessively checking, finally got a note from 
> Will that it's ready. Picked up my 60 cm Appaloosa arrived today. I took 
> it 
> for a quick 10 mile spin on local paved trail and ride quality has 
> exceeded 
> expectations. It is joyfully upright (Albatross bars), planted, and 
> climbs 
> well. It makes me want to just keep pedaling and forget about things like 
> speed, heart rate, and strava. 
>
> Here are some pictures 
> 
> On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 5:46:50 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Thanks all for posting pictures of your Appaloosa builds. It has 
>> inspired me to hang on to mine and give it more love. Question for those 
>> of 
>> you running wider tires (2.25) How much mud clearance does it leave when 
>> riding a tire of that size. I am thinking about upgrading from 2.0 WTB 
>> Venture tires to 2.25 Thunder Burts. Just wondering how well the tire 
>> will 
>> fit on Cliffhanger rims. Would appreciate any insight on clearances. 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>>
>>> Brendon - Nitto Kite bars. Ordered from Blue Lug many years ago. 
>>> Keep swapping out, keep coming back time and again. Close matches are 
>>> Soma 
>>> Osprey or Riv Wavie. Beartraps are OK. Comfortable. Aggressive grip on 
>>> shoes. And my shins/calves.
>>>
>>> Eric - that's out my front door in central Iowa. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 6:22:00 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Brent -- That's a nice looking bike there! The friscalating 
 dusklight is complimentary. Where, geographically, are you riding? 

 On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 2:58:24 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> BP, your bike build is excellent. Can I please ask which handlebar 
> that is and also do you like the new Beartrap pedals?
>
> On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 14:50:15 UTC+8 brendonoid wrote:
>
>> Similar story, but my single TT 57cm just feels more right than 
>> my 58 double tt did. Better fit? Slightly more ideal geo? Just a 
>> better 
>> colour?
>> We aren't talking earth shattering differences, but the 
>> differences are good ones.
>>
>> On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 10:43:35 UTC+8 Justin wrote:
>>
>>> Fantastic Appaloosa! How the heck did I miss the memo that Riv 
>>> was now doing single top tube larger size bikes again? MY double 
>>> top tube 
>>> size 58 is free to a good home... in trade for a single top tube 
>>> version.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 10:28:31 PM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>>>
 

Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Kushan]

Welcome Adam -

+1 to what Collin said above. 

I went with 2x9 wide-low crank on my 60 Appaloosa and I am loving it so 
far. I also live in a terrain filled with hills and rollers and so far 
(it's only been two days though) haven't missed the third big ring. Plus I 
love the look of the chainring guard on the silver cranks. 

I also went with the silver bar end shifters and loving the experience. I 
am a bit biased as I already have friction shifter on my other bike. I 
would say that if you're going to give friction shifting a try, do it with 
the best shifter out there (Silver). It's a relatively easy part to change 
later if you don't end up liking it.

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 8:32:52 AM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Adam,
>
> Welcome to the cult (err, google group)! If you are lucky, you will end up 
> tinkering on the bike constantly and this decision on whether to go 2x10 or 
> 3x9, etc. will be an inconsequential one. Honestly, i'm surprised there are 
> enough parts out there to make that decision!
>
> But in regards to gearing, a 2x system on a triple crank does let you put 
> on a chainguard which helps with the 'go anywhere' style of bike it sounds 
> like you are trying to achieve and increased utility (like wearing pants to 
> work!).
>
> Friction is fun, and the silver2 shifters are pretty dang good at it (and 
> easy to switch from thumbies to bar ends if you have the mounts for it). I 
> currently have a full drop bar cockpit sitting in my closet that can be 
> switched over to my Joe if I once again decide that uprights aren't for 
> me...but the point is, I can switch between the 2 without much hassle 
> thanks to the silver2s.
>
> Either way, best to make a decision soon so you can ride the bike sooner 
> rather than later! There are no 'wrong' decisions to be made here...
>
> Collin in Sacramento
>
> On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 7:27:41 AM UTC-7 adamc...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi all, I'm new around here. I've been lurking ever since I managed to 
>> snag a 60cm orange Appaloosa frame from Rivendell back in June, which was 
>> somewhat of a pandemic impulse purchase. I've wanted a Rivendell for years, 
>> but had no real intention of buying a bike this year...until I saw the 
>> email from Riv. I'm beyond thrilled and so excited to finally own a 
>> Rivendell!
>>
>> So now Riv is waiting for me to make up my mind on components so they can 
>> build it for me. I might be overthinking things a bit. Help!
>>
>> I'm stuck on what gearing and shifting to go with... 
>>
>> Since I have a 1x11 on my 29er+ and I have 3x9 gearing on my roadie bike, 
>> I was leaning towards 2x10 on this one to try something new and it seems to 
>> give me the about right range for this "I'm not sure where I'm gonna ride 
>> this bike exactly, probably here, probably there, maybe over there" bike. I 
>> live in the Catskills, NY, so there's definitely lotsa hills, plenty of 
>> country back roads, some gravel and dirt roads for sure, trails too. I 
>> might take her bike camping, why not. Or maybe classic 3x9 gearing for the 
>> widest range possible and I'm so undecided. I'm happy to go with the Silver 
>> brand cranks, but do I need a chain guard. Ooh, those White Industries 
>> cranks are beautiful, but I don't need that. But maybe I do?
>>
>> I've never tried friction shifting, so I wanna try it out. Was leaning 
>> towards just going with the Silver bar-end shifters and call it a day. Oh, 
>> but the Dura ace bar-end shifters provide both indexed and friction, at 
>> least for the 9sp shifters. Indexed only for the 10sp shifters, I think. 
>> That could be a way to try out friction, but have indexed mode if it ain't 
>> for me.
>>
>> All else is decided, just hemming and hawing over these two last details.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> Take care, and happy to have found this forum!
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:25:50 PM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the compliment JS! It's a 56cm with 650b wheels. Such a 
>>> fantastic bike. Cheers,
>>>
>>> ~Mark
>>> Raleigh, NC
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 09:34, J Schwartz  wrote:
>>>
>>> I think that's one of the nicest set-up MIT Atlantis' I've seen.  Is 
>>> that a 56 or 53?
>>>
>>> JS
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:59:12 AM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Kushan,

 Zefal makes plastic pump pegs that you can secure around any tube on 
 your bike. I'm using one on my Atlantis to hold a Zefal pump and it works 
 great (mine's an FPX , not an HPX, but they fit the pegs just the same). 
 I've got an extra one if you'd like, let's say $10 shipped. PM me if 
 you're 
 interested. Cheers,

 ~Mark
 Raleigh, NC



 On Jul 21, 2021, at 07:45, Eric Marth  wrote:

 Rad bike, Kushan, and congrats! 


 I don't have any experience hacking an HPX4 but maybe you could add 
 some felt washers to the piston between the handle and 

Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Collin A]

Adam,

Welcome to the cult (err, google group)! If you are lucky, you will end up 
tinkering on the bike constantly and this decision on whether to go 2x10 or 
3x9, etc. will be an inconsequential one. Honestly, i'm surprised there are 
enough parts out there to make that decision!

But in regards to gearing, a 2x system on a triple crank does let you put 
on a chainguard which helps with the 'go anywhere' style of bike it sounds 
like you are trying to achieve and increased utility (like wearing pants to 
work!).

Friction is fun, and the silver2 shifters are pretty dang good at it (and 
easy to switch from thumbies to bar ends if you have the mounts for it). I 
currently have a full drop bar cockpit sitting in my closet that can be 
switched over to my Joe if I once again decide that uprights aren't for 
me...but the point is, I can switch between the 2 without much hassle 
thanks to the silver2s.

Either way, best to make a decision soon so you can ride the bike sooner 
rather than later! There are no 'wrong' decisions to be made here...

Collin in Sacramento

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 7:27:41 AM UTC-7 adamc...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi all, I'm new around here. I've been lurking ever since I managed to 
> snag a 60cm orange Appaloosa frame from Rivendell back in June, which was 
> somewhat of a pandemic impulse purchase. I've wanted a Rivendell for years, 
> but had no real intention of buying a bike this year...until I saw the 
> email from Riv. I'm beyond thrilled and so excited to finally own a 
> Rivendell!
>
> So now Riv is waiting for me to make up my mind on components so they can 
> build it for me. I might be overthinking things a bit. Help!
>
> I'm stuck on what gearing and shifting to go with... 
>
> Since I have a 1x11 on my 29er+ and I have 3x9 gearing on my roadie bike, 
> I was leaning towards 2x10 on this one to try something new and it seems to 
> give me the about right range for this "I'm not sure where I'm gonna ride 
> this bike exactly, probably here, probably there, maybe over there" bike. I 
> live in the Catskills, NY, so there's definitely lotsa hills, plenty of 
> country back roads, some gravel and dirt roads for sure, trails too. I 
> might take her bike camping, why not. Or maybe classic 3x9 gearing for the 
> widest range possible and I'm so undecided. I'm happy to go with the Silver 
> brand cranks, but do I need a chain guard. Ooh, those White Industries 
> cranks are beautiful, but I don't need that. But maybe I do?
>
> I've never tried friction shifting, so I wanna try it out. Was leaning 
> towards just going with the Silver bar-end shifters and call it a day. Oh, 
> but the Dura ace bar-end shifters provide both indexed and friction, at 
> least for the 9sp shifters. Indexed only for the 10sp shifters, I think. 
> That could be a way to try out friction, but have indexed mode if it ain't 
> for me.
>
> All else is decided, just hemming and hawing over these two last details.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Take care, and happy to have found this forum!
>
> Adam
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:25:50 PM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks for the compliment JS! It's a 56cm with 650b wheels. Such a 
>> fantastic bike. Cheers,
>>
>> ~Mark
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 09:34, J Schwartz  wrote:
>>
>> I think that's one of the nicest set-up MIT Atlantis' I've seen.  Is 
>> that a 56 or 53?
>>
>> JS
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:59:12 AM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Kushan,
>>>
>>> Zefal makes plastic pump pegs that you can secure around any tube on 
>>> your bike. I'm using one on my Atlantis to hold a Zefal pump and it works 
>>> great (mine's an FPX , not an HPX, but they fit the pegs just the same). 
>>> I've got an extra one if you'd like, let's say $10 shipped. PM me if you're 
>>> interested. Cheers,
>>>
>>> ~Mark
>>> Raleigh, NC
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 07:45, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> Rad bike, Kushan, and congrats! 
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't have any experience hacking an HPX4 but maybe you could add some 
>>> felt washers to the piston between the handle and the main frame body to 
>>> effectively add to the overall length of the pump when compressed. 
>>>
>>> https://www.mcmaster.com/felt-washers/
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 1:43:24 AM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>>>
 P.S. It turns out that my frame pump, Zefal HPX4, is a tad too short 
 for 60 cm Appa (although it fits fine on 61 Roadini). To my knowledge, 
 HPX4 
 is the largest size pump Zefal makes. If anyone has recommendations on 
 larger frame pump (or hacks on how to make HPX4 work), please let me know. 
 It's a bummer because I just got this one a few weeks ago.

 On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 10:41:24 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:

> After a few weeks of obsessively checking, finally got a note from 
> Will that it's ready. Picked up my 60 cm Appaloosa arrived today. I took 
> it 
> for a quick 10 

[RBW] Re: Gus Boots Forks Garage Sale - Ideas?

[Christopher Cote]

Well, if you put one of these on an old "non suspension corrected" 26" MTB 
frame that expects a 405mm A-C crown, and use a 27.5" front wheel, it will 
lift the front end about 10mm, which is a good thing IME with old MTBs. Not 
sure how the increased rake and larger wheel will affect things. Maybe the 
decreased wheel flop will "cancel out" the effect of the larger wheel? Wild 
speculation on my part. I have a 1992 Trek 930 that would be a good 
candidate, but I've got too many irons in the bike project fire right now.

Chris

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 10:27:00 AM UTC-4 John Johnson wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I've seen the Gus forks up on the Riv site garage sale section. I'm 
> curious if anyone has any ideas for a good frame that these could be used 
> with. The 399 axle to crown is pretty short for a 27.5 frame, and even 
> short for a lot of 1 1/8 inch 26" frames. 
>
> Any creative thoughts on a good frame that would work without throwing off 
> the bike's geometry?
>
> thanks in advance!
>
> John
>

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[RBW] WTB: Rawland Demiporteur v3

[mike young]

If anyone has one of these Rawland racks and wants to sell it let me know! 
Would prefer version 3 steel although. If you happen to have another 
demiporteur rack that plays nicely with cantis please feel free to reach 
out too.

Mike Young
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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Michael Baquerizo]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/291975824997

the zefal pump pegs mentioned in this thread. although i'm not sure this 
size pertains as I own one and tried using it, i don't recall where but it 
was too big.

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:25:50 PM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Thanks for the compliment JS! It's a 56cm with 650b wheels. Such a 
> fantastic bike. Cheers,
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2021, at 09:34, J Schwartz  wrote:
>
> I think that's one of the nicest set-up MIT Atlantis' I've seen.  Is that 
> a 56 or 53?
>
> JS
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:59:12 AM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Kushan,
>>
>> Zefal makes plastic pump pegs that you can secure around any tube on your 
>> bike. I'm using one on my Atlantis to hold a Zefal pump and it works great 
>> (mine's an FPX , not an HPX, but they fit the pegs just the same). I've got 
>> an extra one if you'd like, let's say $10 shipped. PM me if you're 
>> interested. Cheers,
>>
>> ~Mark
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 07:45, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Rad bike, Kushan, and congrats! 
>>
>>
>> I don't have any experience hacking an HPX4 but maybe you could add some 
>> felt washers to the piston between the handle and the main frame body to 
>> effectively add to the overall length of the pump when compressed. 
>>
>> https://www.mcmaster.com/felt-washers/
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 1:43:24 AM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>>
>>> P.S. It turns out that my frame pump, Zefal HPX4, is a tad too short for 
>>> 60 cm Appa (although it fits fine on 61 Roadini). To my knowledge, HPX4 is 
>>> the largest size pump Zefal makes. If anyone has recommendations on larger 
>>> frame pump (or hacks on how to make HPX4 work), please let me know. It's a 
>>> bummer because I just got this one a few weeks ago.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 10:41:24 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>>
 After a few weeks of obsessively checking, finally got a note from Will 
 that it's ready. Picked up my 60 cm Appaloosa arrived today. I took it for 
 a quick 10 mile spin on local paved trail and ride quality has exceeded 
 expectations. It is joyfully upright (Albatross bars), planted, and climbs 
 well. It makes me want to just keep pedaling and forget about things like 
 speed, heart rate, and strava. 

 Here are some pictures 
 
 On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 5:46:50 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Thanks all for posting pictures of your Appaloosa builds. It has 
> inspired me to hang on to mine and give it more love. Question for those 
> of 
> you running wider tires (2.25) How much mud clearance does it leave when 
> riding a tire of that size. I am thinking about upgrading from 2.0 WTB 
> Venture tires to 2.25 Thunder Burts. Just wondering how well the tire 
> will 
> fit on Cliffhanger rims. Would appreciate any insight on clearances. 
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>
>> Brendon - Nitto Kite bars. Ordered from Blue Lug many years ago. Keep 
>> swapping out, keep coming back time and again. Close matches are Soma 
>> Osprey or Riv Wavie. Beartraps are OK. Comfortable. Aggressive grip on 
>> shoes. And my shins/calves.
>>
>> Eric - that's out my front door in central Iowa. 
>>
>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 6:22:00 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Brent -- That's a nice looking bike there! The friscalating 
>>> dusklight is complimentary. Where, geographically, are you riding? 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 2:58:24 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:
>>>
 BP, your bike build is excellent. Can I please ask which handlebar 
 that is and also do you like the new Beartrap pedals?

 On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 14:50:15 UTC+8 brendonoid wrote:

> Similar story, but my single TT 57cm just feels more right than my 
> 58 double tt did. Better fit? Slightly more ideal geo? Just a better 
> colour?
> We aren't talking earth shattering differences, but the 
> differences are good ones.
>
> On Thursday, 1 July 2021 at 10:43:35 UTC+8 Justin wrote:
>
>> Fantastic Appaloosa! How the heck did I miss the memo that Riv 
>> was now doing single top tube larger size bikes again? MY double top 
>> tube 
>> size 58 is free to a good home... in trade for a single top tube 
>> version.
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 10:28:31 PM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>>
>>> It’s the Advent 1x9 with Microshift thumbie. I had it on hand 
>>> before the Advent X came out, which currently doesn’t have thumb 
>>> shifter or 
>>> barcon options. Nice, economical system. 
>>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021 at 

[RBW] Re: Yet another round of name that sound

[Brian Campbell]

I would try the following (assumning you have not already):

1. Swap the bb.
2. Light bit of grease of the tapers when installing the cranks
3. Uninstall and re-install the cassette
4. Check the chain for wear and make sure the master link is proerly 
secured.
5. Check the front derailer adujustment to make sure the cage it not 
hitting the chain or possibly somethig else
6. If you re wearing cleated shoes make sure the cleats are tight. Lower 
gearrs means lower pressure/contact with the pedals.
7.  Make sure the chainring bolts are tight.
8. IS the spacer (if there is one for 11 speed ) the correct width?

Good luck and hope you solve it quickly!

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 11:47:06 AM UTC-4 brettjc...@gmail.com wrote:

> This is going to sound crazy, but is it the saddle, seatpost, or their 
> interface? That's happened to me more than once, and I've chased sounds 
> that I'm sure are bottom bracket, crank, or cassette related only to 
> discover that in certain gears or at certain effort levels, my saddle is 
> clicking. (In fact, this is happening with a Berthoud on my NFE at the 
> moment. It only clicks when I shift my weight and ride upright at low 
> cadence). 
>
> Just a thought...
> Brett in Portland
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 5:35:26 AM UTC-7 David Wadstrup wrote:
>
>> We've played this game before, and I'm reluctant to begin another round. 
>>  But after a fruitless deep dive into a general internet search trying to 
>> identify the source of my sound, I thought bringing up my issue here might 
>> be of help.  Here goes
>>
>> I am the proud owner of a beautiful, creamsicle colored Roadeo that I 
>> purchased from a fellow list member here a couple of years ago.  I 
>> purchased only the frameset, and built up it up myself.  A short while ago 
>> I began to notice a creaking, clicking, cracking-type sound when climbing 
>> steep-ish hills.  I loosened and re-tightened just about everything(except 
>> the bottom bracket) in an attempt to fix whatever the source of the sound 
>> might be.  No luck.  While out on a ride yesterday, I noticed that the 
>> sound was apparently getting worse.  I started to fear that there was maybe 
>> a crack somewhere in the frame, and made a plan to remove the crank and 
>> re-install the BB to eliminate it as a possible source(which I ended up not 
>> doing.)  But further into the ride, I happened to discover that the sound 
>> only occurs when I am in one of the 3 largest cogs on the cassette.  I made 
>> about 7 or 8 trips up and down one of the steeper hills on my route, and 
>> was able to confirm that it did not happen in the 4th, or 5th, or any other 
>> cog in back -- just the 3 largest.  
>>
>> For clarification, I am running a Shimano 11sp Ultegra group.  The sound 
>> is NOT regular.  Meaning that it doesn't occur in the same place in either 
>> my wheel's or crank's rotation. It happens both when seated and while I am 
>> out of the saddle. It is more of a cracking, creaking, sound rather than a 
>> clicking sound(although it does sound clicky,) if that makes any sense.  It 
>> sounds like what I'd imagine a a cracked something-or-other to sound like.
>>
>> I suppose I'll remove and reinstall the cassette when I get a chance, but 
>> figured I reach out to you all to see whether anyone has an inkling of what 
>> the trouble might be.  Please let me know your thoughts!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: 2021 Appaloosa thread

[Adam Smith]

Hi all, I'm new around here. I've been lurking ever since I managed to snag 
a 60cm orange Appaloosa frame from Rivendell back in June, which was 
somewhat of a pandemic impulse purchase. I've wanted a Rivendell for years, 
but had no real intention of buying a bike this year...until I saw the 
email from Riv. I'm beyond thrilled and so excited to finally own a 
Rivendell!

So now Riv is waiting for me to make up my mind on components so they can 
build it for me. I might be overthinking things a bit. Help!

I'm stuck on what gearing and shifting to go with... 

Since I have a 1x11 on my 29er+ and I have 3x9 gearing on my roadie bike, I 
was leaning towards 2x10 on this one to try something new and it seems to 
give me the about right range for this "I'm not sure where I'm gonna ride 
this bike exactly, probably here, probably there, maybe over there" bike. I 
live in the Catskills, NY, so there's definitely lotsa hills, plenty of 
country back roads, some gravel and dirt roads for sure, trails too. I 
might take her bike camping, why not. Or maybe classic 3x9 gearing for the 
widest range possible and I'm so undecided. I'm happy to go with the Silver 
brand cranks, but do I need a chain guard. Ooh, those White Industries 
cranks are beautiful, but I don't need that. But maybe I do?

I've never tried friction shifting, so I wanna try it out. Was leaning 
towards just going with the Silver bar-end shifters and call it a day. Oh, 
but the Dura ace bar-end shifters provide both indexed and friction, at 
least for the 9sp shifters. Indexed only for the 10sp shifters, I think. 
That could be a way to try out friction, but have indexed mode if it ain't 
for me.

All else is decided, just hemming and hawing over these two last details.

Thoughts?

Take care, and happy to have found this forum!

Adam

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:25:50 PM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Thanks for the compliment JS! It's a 56cm with 650b wheels. Such a 
> fantastic bike. Cheers,
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
>
>
> On Jul 21, 2021, at 09:34, J Schwartz  wrote:
>
> I think that's one of the nicest set-up MIT Atlantis' I've seen.  Is that 
> a 56 or 53?
>
> JS
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 8:59:12 AM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Kushan,
>>
>> Zefal makes plastic pump pegs that you can secure around any tube on your 
>> bike. I'm using one on my Atlantis to hold a Zefal pump and it works great 
>> (mine's an FPX , not an HPX, but they fit the pegs just the same). I've got 
>> an extra one if you'd like, let's say $10 shipped. PM me if you're 
>> interested. Cheers,
>>
>> ~Mark
>> Raleigh, NC
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2021, at 07:45, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Rad bike, Kushan, and congrats! 
>>
>>
>> I don't have any experience hacking an HPX4 but maybe you could add some 
>> felt washers to the piston between the handle and the main frame body to 
>> effectively add to the overall length of the pump when compressed. 
>>
>> https://www.mcmaster.com/felt-washers/
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 1:43:24 AM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>>
>>> P.S. It turns out that my frame pump, Zefal HPX4, is a tad too short for 
>>> 60 cm Appa (although it fits fine on 61 Roadini). To my knowledge, HPX4 is 
>>> the largest size pump Zefal makes. If anyone has recommendations on larger 
>>> frame pump (or hacks on how to make HPX4 work), please let me know. It's a 
>>> bummer because I just got this one a few weeks ago.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 10:41:24 PM UTC-7 Kushan wrote:
>>>
 After a few weeks of obsessively checking, finally got a note from Will 
 that it's ready. Picked up my 60 cm Appaloosa arrived today. I took it for 
 a quick 10 mile spin on local paved trail and ride quality has exceeded 
 expectations. It is joyfully upright (Albatross bars), planted, and climbs 
 well. It makes me want to just keep pedaling and forget about things like 
 speed, heart rate, and strava. 

 Here are some pictures 
 
 On Saturday, July 3, 2021 at 5:46:50 AM UTC-7 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Thanks all for posting pictures of your Appaloosa builds. It has 
> inspired me to hang on to mine and give it more love. Question for those 
> of 
> you running wider tires (2.25) How much mud clearance does it leave when 
> riding a tire of that size. I am thinking about upgrading from 2.0 WTB 
> Venture tires to 2.25 Thunder Burts. Just wondering how well the tire 
> will 
> fit on Cliffhanger rims. Would appreciate any insight on clearances. 
>
> On Thursday, July 1, 2021 at 10:54:26 AM UTC-4 bp wrote:
>
>> Brendon - Nitto Kite bars. Ordered from Blue Lug many years ago. Keep 
>> swapping out, keep coming back time and again. Close matches are Soma 
>> Osprey or Riv Wavie. Beartraps are OK. Comfortable. Aggressive grip on 
>> shoes. And my shins/calves.
>>

[RBW] WTB: 53cm 650b Atlantis

[Susanto Irwan]

Looking for my first Rivendell, Atlantis 53 650b would be the perfect bike 
for my mixed terrain rides around the bay area.

If you are looking to sell your Atlantis either as frameset or full bike - 
please let me know.

Thank you!

-s

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Susanto Irwan]

Atlantis size 56 650b
$2,500
Seattle, WA
https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivedell-atlantis/7353547780.html

On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 11:55:31 AM UTC-7 Joel S wrote:

> The Yves is no longer for sale, the owner is undecided as to it’s fate.  
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 11:07 AM, Matthew Williams <
> matthewwil...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yves Gomez (Betty Foy)
> 55cm
> $1975
> Suffield, CT
>
> https://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/d/suffield-rivendell-mixte-yves-gomez/7353643236.html
>
> Romulus F/F/Hs/brakes
> 63cm
> $600
> San Francisco, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-63-cm-rivendell-romulus/7351906116.html
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[RBW] WTB: 62cm Hillborne, Atlantis MIT

[larson....@gmail.com]

Still looking for a Sam Hillborne 62cm 2TT, prefer canti. Also would 
consider a 62cm Atlantis MIT. Appreciate any information!
Randy

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Re: [RBW] Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Mathieu Brown]

Got a little excited about the Romulus at that price point but it looks 
like I'm Redwood-sized :-( 

Should have some new Homers in the store in the next couple of weeks...

On Tuesday, July 20, 2021 at 10:07:38 AM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Yves Gomez (Betty Foy) 
> 55cm 
> $1975 
> Suffield, CT 
>
> https://hartford.craigslist.org/bik/d/suffield-rivendell-mixte-yves-gomez/7353643236.html
>  
>
> Romulus F/F/Hs/brakes 
> 63cm 
> $600 
> San Francisco, CA 
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-63-cm-rivendell-romulus/7351906116.html

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[RBW] Gus Boots Forks Garage Sale - Ideas?

[John Johnson]

Hello all,

I've seen the Gus forks up on the Riv site garage sale section. I'm curious 
if anyone has any ideas for a good frame that these could be used with. The 
399 axle to crown is pretty short for a 27.5 frame, and even short for a 
lot of 1 1/8 inch 26" frames. 

Any creative thoughts on a good frame that would work without throwing off 
the bike's geometry?

thanks in advance!

John

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Brake Levers

[lconley]

I will check to see what I have when I get home tonight.
Laing

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 8:11:02 AM UTC-4 KC wrote:

> Bosco
>
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 5:05 AM lconley  wrote:
>
>> Drop bar or flat bar? I have a bunch of brake levers.
>>
>> Laing
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 11:56:27 PM UTC-4 KC wrote:
>>
>>> Due to some stupid mix-up I have only 1 brake lever for my bike so I 
>>> need to get a new set and that's not easy right now. I am hoping someone 
>>> has some they will part with. Bike is a 50cm Cheviot with Tektro R559 
>>> Brakes. Anyone have anything that will work for me? Thanks.
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB Brake Levers

[Kathy Carroll]

Bosco

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 5:05 AM lconley  wrote:

> Drop bar or flat bar? I have a bunch of brake levers.
>
> Laing
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 11:56:27 PM UTC-4 KC wrote:
>
>> Due to some stupid mix-up I have only 1 brake lever for my bike so I need
>> to get a new set and that's not easy right now. I am hoping someone has
>> some they will part with. Bike is a 50cm Cheviot with Tektro R559 Brakes.
>> Anyone have anything that will work for me? Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: WTB Brake Levers

[lconley]

Drop bar or flat bar? I have a bunch of brake levers.

Laing

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 11:56:27 PM UTC-4 KC wrote:

> Due to some stupid mix-up I have only 1 brake lever for my bike so I need 
> to get a new set and that's not easy right now. I am hoping someone has 
> some they will part with. Bike is a 50cm Cheviot with Tektro R559 Brakes. 
> Anyone have anything that will work for me? Thanks.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto 34f front rack

[jeffbog...@hotmail.com]

Bump and price drop to $95

On Thursday, 15 July 2021 at 19:54:17 UTC-5 jeffbog...@hotmail.com wrote:

> Asking $125. Please send PM with zip code for interest and I'll work out 
> shipping options.
>
> Jeff
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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

[Joe Bernard]

Yeah I don't see any sign it's related to the Roadeo model other than being 
a road Rivendell that might kinda match up to a Roadeo in that size. That's 
a Nobilette custom fo sho.

On Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 12:12:06 AM UTC-7 Hetchins52 wrote:

> It has some additions that I would look at as bonuses beyond the usual 
> Roadeo frame:
> Third set of water bottle braze-ons
> Mid fork leg eyelets for a front rack
> Two sets of rear dropout eyelets
> Rack braze-ons just above the rear brake bridge "hidden" on the inside of 
> the seat stays
> Nice!
>
> David Lipsky
> Berkeley, CA
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 4:33:53 PM UTC-7 Scott Calhoun wrote:
>
>> I had some credit and took a flyer on this one. I've wanted a Roadeo for 
>> many years. This one is an odd case, as TCP is calling it both a "Custom" 
>> and a "Roadeo." Vince at Riv HQ suggested that it could be from the time 
>> period when they weren't offering Roadeos per se? I called and got the 
>> serial number from TPC and it begins with MN, so Mark Nobilette built. From 
>> the geometry details they do list, it lines up with 63cm Rivendell Roadeo 
>> geometry from ~2017 or so. I'm going to see if Nobilette has any additional 
>> info about it. In any case, the TT length and Standover look very similar 
>> if not identical to my current 64cm Quickbeam, and former 64cm Ram, so I'm 
>> not worried about the fit. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 7:41:37 AM UTC-7 John M wrote:
>>
>>> Nice looking (and big!) Riv custom at the Pro's Closet:

>>>
>>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/rivendell-roadeo-xl
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikes on eBay, CraigsLIst, and Other Sites

['Hetchins52' via RBW Owners Bunch]

It has some additions that I would look at as bonuses beyond the usual 
Roadeo frame:
Third set of water bottle braze-ons
Mid fork leg eyelets for a front rack
Two sets of rear dropout eyelets
Rack braze-ons just above the rear brake bridge "hidden" on the inside of 
the seat stays
Nice!

David Lipsky
Berkeley, CA
On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 4:33:53 PM UTC-7 Scott Calhoun wrote:

> I had some credit and took a flyer on this one. I've wanted a Roadeo for 
> many years. This one is an odd case, as TCP is calling it both a "Custom" 
> and a "Roadeo." Vince at Riv HQ suggested that it could be from the time 
> period when they weren't offering Roadeos per se? I called and got the 
> serial number from TPC and it begins with MN, so Mark Nobilette built. From 
> the geometry details they do list, it lines up with 63cm Rivendell Roadeo 
> geometry from ~2017 or so. I'm going to see if Nobilette has any additional 
> info about it. In any case, the TT length and Standover look very similar 
> if not identical to my current 64cm Quickbeam, and former 64cm Ram, so I'm 
> not worried about the fit. 
>
> On Wednesday, July 21, 2021 at 7:41:37 AM UTC-7 John M wrote:
>
>> Nice looking (and big!) Riv custom at the Pro's Closet:
>>>
>>
>> https://www.theproscloset.com/products/rivendell-roadeo-xl
>>
>>  
>>
>

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