Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Ryan Frahm]

Completely unnecessary. But so nice!

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 4:55:53 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I have Rich-built WI/Atlas on my custom. Why? Because it's a really nice 
> Rivendell and Rich is the best in the business and those polished hubs are 
> so pretty! You gotta like the buzzy noise though. I do, but them 
> half-the-price wheels with Shimano are quieter. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 4:12:18 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I feel better already knowing that if I’d have hesitated yet again, I’d 
>> have missed them. Again. Trying to talk myself out of the Rich built wheels 
>> with White Industries hubs. They have them. Seems like a better jump 
>> situation these days…
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:40:34 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh boy! Have fun…
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 6:14:42 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Added the LimeOlive in large to my cart at 12:04. Was distracted by my 
 daughter just long enough, they were gone. Went for the dark gold! Now the 
 waiting game… Thank you everyone for the help!

 On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> And thank you Laura for complicating it further! Haha. The LimeOlive 
> really looks nicer in that picture above as well! I do love green but 
> wasn’t sure with so few pictures to see it in better light. My build will 
> likely end up being silver. It will also start out as a mix of things I 
> have and will be searching eBay for just to get it together. 
>
> At least I have a few hours left to decide!
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:59:19 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> Hey Eric, thank you for that color comparison! I agree there is no 
>> wrong choice myself. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:52:47 AM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you are in the Susie category, that LimeOlive is deceptively 
>>> slick! It tips the scale on handsome when paired with black & grey. 
>>> But, if 
>>> you want to add color with anodized bits, and housing, the choices are 
>>> varied… blue, purple, raspberry, or even green would top my list. 
>>>
>>> The DarkGold is beautiful, but many of the off-the-shelf component 
>>> colors, to my eyes, would be too strong for it. It begs to be adorned 
>>> with 
>>> grey and silver, which is its own type of perfection. Of course, 
>>> someone 
>>> will post examples to prove me wrong, but that is how I differentiate 
>>> the 
>>> two colors.
>>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:06:25 AM UTC-5 
>>> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Frahm30, I don't have a Gus or Susie but, man, the colors slated 
 for these frames are great! You can't go wrong. 

 [image: Screen Shot 2021-12-15 at 8.04.56 AM.png]
 On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 7:25:16 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>
> Haha, thanks! I only have one bike. If this works out, it will be 
> my new only bike!
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard 
> wrote:
>
>> Dark Gold rules. If I was still that guy who buys too many bikes 
>> I would be all over this. Enjoy! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-8 
>> fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Crunch time! I talked to Will and he recommended a large Susie. 
>>> I’m definitely leaning towards dark gold. But my wife says both 
>>> colors look 
>>> like something from our daughters pants still. Haha. With a 
>>> February, or 
>>> let’s be honest, later delivery, I will have plenty of time to 
>>> source the 
>>> few parts I will need. Ordered the Bosco bars today to pacify me. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 5:31:44 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hey Patrick! I was actually just in ABQ over thanksgiving. 
 Riding on 2.6” tires now but the i36 rim helps them spread out. 
 Having to 
 use the i25 cliffhanger is one of the things that has me 
 hesitating, I’m a 
 fan of wide rims. I’m back and forth. Should probably wait for the 
 next 
 Clem run. The Gus just has so much style!

 On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 5:39:23 PM UTC-8 Patrick 
 Moore wrote:

> What country do you live in? (Sorry for leaving out a 
> salutation; don't know your name.)
>
> And please post the statutorily required photos!
>
> Patrick "2.2" is too skinny for our sandy acequia trails" 
> Moore, in the ABQ, NM, USA riverine

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Erik]

Rich builds beautiful wheels.  I have the White Industries / Velocity 
Cliffhangers on my Susie.  Certainly not necessary, but they are well worth 
it. And I think you'll love the dark gold color.  

>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 6:12:18 PM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I feel better already knowing that if I’d have hesitated yet again, I’d 
>> have missed them. Again. Trying to talk myself out of the Rich built wheels 
>> with White Industries hubs. They have them. Seems like a better jump 
>> situation these days…
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Ryan]

Don't talk yourself out of those Rich-built wheels with the WI hubs...they 
are gorgeous. Expensive, yes. But worth it. OTOH if Riv says the 
Velocity-built rims are good , they probably are and they are  about half 
the price and since you seem to have a young daughter...probably the 
financially responsible choice😊

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 6:12:18 PM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> I feel better already knowing that if I’d have hesitated yet again, I’d 
> have missed them. Again. Trying to talk myself out of the Rich built wheels 
> with White Industries hubs. They have them. Seems like a better jump 
> situation these days…
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:40:34 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Oh boy! Have fun…
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 6:14:42 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Added the LimeOlive in large to my cart at 12:04. Was distracted by my 
>>> daughter just long enough, they were gone. Went for the dark gold! Now the 
>>> waiting game… Thank you everyone for the help!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 And thank you Laura for complicating it further! Haha. The LimeOlive 
 really looks nicer in that picture above as well! I do love green but 
 wasn’t sure with so few pictures to see it in better light. My build will 
 likely end up being silver. It will also start out as a mix of things I 
 have and will be searching eBay for just to get it together. 

 At least I have a few hours left to decide!

 On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:59:19 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> Hey Eric, thank you for that color comparison! I agree there is no 
> wrong choice myself. 
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:52:47 AM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> If you are in the Susie category, that LimeOlive is deceptively 
>> slick! It tips the scale on handsome when paired with black & grey. But, 
>> if 
>> you want to add color with anodized bits, and housing, the choices are 
>> varied… blue, purple, raspberry, or even green would top my list. 
>>
>> The DarkGold is beautiful, but many of the off-the-shelf component 
>> colors, to my eyes, would be too strong for it. It begs to be adorned 
>> with 
>> grey and silver, which is its own type of perfection. Of course, someone 
>> will post examples to prove me wrong, but that is how I differentiate 
>> the 
>> two colors.
>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:06:25 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Frahm30, I don't have a Gus or Susie but, man, the colors slated for 
>>> these frames are great! You can't go wrong. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-12-15 at 8.04.56 AM.png]
>>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 7:25:16 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Haha, thanks! I only have one bike. If this works out, it will be 
 my new only bike!
 On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Dark Gold rules. If I was still that guy who buys too many bikes I 
> would be all over this. Enjoy! 
>
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Crunch time! I talked to Will and he recommended a large Susie. 
>> I’m definitely leaning towards dark gold. But my wife says both 
>> colors look 
>> like something from our daughters pants still. Haha. With a 
>> February, or 
>> let’s be honest, later delivery, I will have plenty of time to 
>> source the 
>> few parts I will need. Ordered the Bosco bars today to pacify me. 
>>
>> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 5:31:44 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Patrick! I was actually just in ABQ over thanksgiving. 
>>> Riding on 2.6” tires now but the i36 rim helps them spread out. 
>>> Having to 
>>> use the i25 cliffhanger is one of the things that has me 
>>> hesitating, I’m a 
>>> fan of wide rims. I’m back and forth. Should probably wait for the 
>>> next 
>>> Clem run. The Gus just has so much style!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 5:39:23 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 What country do you live in? (Sorry for leaving out a 
 salutation; don't know your name.)

 And please post the statutorily required photos!

 Patrick "2.2" is too skinny for our sandy acequia trails" 
 Moore, in the ABQ, NM, USA riverine bosque.

 On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 10:01 AM 'kaelawoods' via RBW Owners 
 Bunch  wrote:

> It's been 4 months since I built up my Gus, which also ha

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Ryan Frahm]

I feel better already knowing that if I’d have hesitated yet again, I’d 
have missed them. Again. Trying to talk myself out of the Rich built wheels 
with White Industries hubs. They have them. Seems like a better jump 
situation these days…

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:40:34 PM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote:

> Oh boy! Have fun…
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 6:14:42 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Added the LimeOlive in large to my cart at 12:04. Was distracted by my 
>> daughter just long enough, they were gone. Went for the dark gold! Now the 
>> waiting game… Thank you everyone for the help!
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> And thank you Laura for complicating it further! Haha. The LimeOlive 
>>> really looks nicer in that picture above as well! I do love green but 
>>> wasn’t sure with so few pictures to see it in better light. My build will 
>>> likely end up being silver. It will also start out as a mix of things I 
>>> have and will be searching eBay for just to get it together. 
>>>
>>> At least I have a few hours left to decide!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:59:19 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 Hey Eric, thank you for that color comparison! I agree there is no 
 wrong choice myself. 

 On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:52:47 AM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> If you are in the Susie category, that LimeOlive is deceptively slick! 
> It tips the scale on handsome when paired with black & grey. But, if you 
> want to add color with anodized bits, and housing, the choices are 
> varied… 
> blue, purple, raspberry, or even green would top my list. 
>
> The DarkGold is beautiful, but many of the off-the-shelf component 
> colors, to my eyes, would be too strong for it. It begs to be adorned 
> with 
> grey and silver, which is its own type of perfection. Of course, someone 
> will post examples to prove me wrong, but that is how I differentiate the 
> two colors.
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:06:25 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Frahm30, I don't have a Gus or Susie but, man, the colors slated for 
>> these frames are great! You can't go wrong. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-12-15 at 8.04.56 AM.png]
>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 7:25:16 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Haha, thanks! I only have one bike. If this works out, it will be my 
>>> new only bike!
>>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Dark Gold rules. If I was still that guy who buys too many bikes I 
 would be all over this. Enjoy! 

 On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Crunch time! I talked to Will and he recommended a large Susie. 
> I’m definitely leaning towards dark gold. But my wife says both 
> colors look 
> like something from our daughters pants still. Haha. With a February, 
> or 
> let’s be honest, later delivery, I will have plenty of time to source 
> the 
> few parts I will need. Ordered the Bosco bars today to pacify me. 
>
> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 5:31:44 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> Hey Patrick! I was actually just in ABQ over thanksgiving. Riding 
>> on 2.6” tires now but the i36 rim helps them spread out. Having to 
>> use the 
>> i25 cliffhanger is one of the things that has me hesitating, I’m a 
>> fan of 
>> wide rims. I’m back and forth. Should probably wait for the next 
>> Clem run. 
>> The Gus just has so much style!
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 5:39:23 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What country do you live in? (Sorry for leaving out a 
>>> salutation; don't know your name.)
>>>
>>> And please post the statutorily required photos!
>>>
>>> Patrick "2.2" is too skinny for our sandy acequia trails" Moore, 
>>> in the ABQ, NM, USA riverine bosque.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 10:01 AM 'kaelawoods' via RBW Owners 
>>> Bunch  wrote:
>>>
 It's been 4 months since I built up my Gus, which also happens 
 to be the first Rivendell I've ever ridden. ( I live halfway 
 across the 
 world and Rivs are scarce here). I've never ridden a Jones nor do 
 I own a 
 disc brake bike, but like you, I wanted a bike that can do it all, 
 handle 
 any trail I come across, and the Gus has been doing all that, and 
 more. 
 It's a strong, beautiful frame, definitely on the heavier side 
 compared to 
 

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Laura]

Oh boy! Have fun…

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 6:14:42 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Added the LimeOlive in large to my cart at 12:04. Was distracted by my 
> daughter just long enough, they were gone. Went for the dark gold! Now the 
> waiting game… Thank you everyone for the help!
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> And thank you Laura for complicating it further! Haha. The LimeOlive 
>> really looks nicer in that picture above as well! I do love green but 
>> wasn’t sure with so few pictures to see it in better light. My build will 
>> likely end up being silver. It will also start out as a mix of things I 
>> have and will be searching eBay for just to get it together. 
>>
>> At least I have a few hours left to decide!
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:59:19 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Eric, thank you for that color comparison! I agree there is no wrong 
>>> choice myself. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:52:47 AM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 If you are in the Susie category, that LimeOlive is deceptively slick! 
 It tips the scale on handsome when paired with black & grey. But, if you 
 want to add color with anodized bits, and housing, the choices are varied… 
 blue, purple, raspberry, or even green would top my list. 

 The DarkGold is beautiful, but many of the off-the-shelf component 
 colors, to my eyes, would be too strong for it. It begs to be adorned with 
 grey and silver, which is its own type of perfection. Of course, someone 
 will post examples to prove me wrong, but that is how I differentiate the 
 two colors.
 On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:06:25 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Frahm30, I don't have a Gus or Susie but, man, the colors slated for 
> these frames are great! You can't go wrong. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-12-15 at 8.04.56 AM.png]
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 7:25:16 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Haha, thanks! I only have one bike. If this works out, it will be my 
>> new only bike!
>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Dark Gold rules. If I was still that guy who buys too many bikes I 
>>> would be all over this. Enjoy! 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Crunch time! I talked to Will and he recommended a large Susie. I’m 
 definitely leaning towards dark gold. But my wife says both colors 
 look 
 like something from our daughters pants still. Haha. With a February, 
 or 
 let’s be honest, later delivery, I will have plenty of time to source 
 the 
 few parts I will need. Ordered the Bosco bars today to pacify me. 

 On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 5:31:44 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> Hey Patrick! I was actually just in ABQ over thanksgiving. Riding 
> on 2.6” tires now but the i36 rim helps them spread out. Having to 
> use the 
> i25 cliffhanger is one of the things that has me hesitating, I’m a 
> fan of 
> wide rims. I’m back and forth. Should probably wait for the next Clem 
> run. 
> The Gus just has so much style!
>
> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 5:39:23 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> What country do you live in? (Sorry for leaving out a salutation; 
>> don't know your name.)
>>
>> And please post the statutorily required photos!
>>
>> Patrick "2.2" is too skinny for our sandy acequia trails" Moore, 
>> in the ABQ, NM, USA riverine bosque.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 10:01 AM 'kaelawoods' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> It's been 4 months since I built up my Gus, which also happens 
>>> to be the first Rivendell I've ever ridden. ( I live halfway across 
>>> the 
>>> world and Rivs are scarce here). I've never ridden a Jones nor do I 
>>> own a 
>>> disc brake bike, but like you, I wanted a bike that can do it all, 
>>> handle 
>>> any trail I come across, and the Gus has been doing all that, and 
>>> more. 
>>> It's a strong, beautiful frame, definitely on the heavier side 
>>> compared to 
>>> my other low trail randonneuring bike which is a real lightweight,  
>>> but man 
>>> it's just such a joy to ride. I think the wheel set and tires do 
>>> contribute 
>>> greatly to the ride feel, i built up a a pair of Velocity 
>>> Cliffhangers with 
>>> a front dynamo and currently have Rene Herse Umtanum Ridges on 
>>> them. 
>>> They're only 2.2" but work well for the mi

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Ryan Frahm]

Added the LimeOlive in large to my cart at 12:04. Was distracted by my 
daughter just long enough, they were gone. Went for the dark gold! Now the 
waiting game… Thank you everyone for the help!

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:03:09 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> And thank you Laura for complicating it further! Haha. The LimeOlive 
> really looks nicer in that picture above as well! I do love green but 
> wasn’t sure with so few pictures to see it in better light. My build will 
> likely end up being silver. It will also start out as a mix of things I 
> have and will be searching eBay for just to get it together. 
>
> At least I have a few hours left to decide!
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:59:19 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> Hey Eric, thank you for that color comparison! I agree there is no wrong 
>> choice myself. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:52:47 AM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you are in the Susie category, that LimeOlive is deceptively slick! 
>>> It tips the scale on handsome when paired with black & grey. But, if you 
>>> want to add color with anodized bits, and housing, the choices are varied… 
>>> blue, purple, raspberry, or even green would top my list. 
>>>
>>> The DarkGold is beautiful, but many of the off-the-shelf component 
>>> colors, to my eyes, would be too strong for it. It begs to be adorned with 
>>> grey and silver, which is its own type of perfection. Of course, someone 
>>> will post examples to prove me wrong, but that is how I differentiate the 
>>> two colors.
>>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:06:25 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Frahm30, I don't have a Gus or Susie but, man, the colors slated for 
 these frames are great! You can't go wrong. 

 [image: Screen Shot 2021-12-15 at 8.04.56 AM.png]
 On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 7:25:16 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

>
> Haha, thanks! I only have one bike. If this works out, it will be my 
> new only bike!
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Dark Gold rules. If I was still that guy who buys too many bikes I 
>> would be all over this. Enjoy! 
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Crunch time! I talked to Will and he recommended a large Susie. I’m 
>>> definitely leaning towards dark gold. But my wife says both colors look 
>>> like something from our daughters pants still. Haha. With a February, 
>>> or 
>>> let’s be honest, later delivery, I will have plenty of time to source 
>>> the 
>>> few parts I will need. Ordered the Bosco bars today to pacify me. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 5:31:44 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>>
 Hey Patrick! I was actually just in ABQ over thanksgiving. Riding 
 on 2.6” tires now but the i36 rim helps them spread out. Having to use 
 the 
 i25 cliffhanger is one of the things that has me hesitating, I’m a fan 
 of 
 wide rims. I’m back and forth. Should probably wait for the next Clem 
 run. 
 The Gus just has so much style!

 On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 5:39:23 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore 
 wrote:

> What country do you live in? (Sorry for leaving out a salutation; 
> don't know your name.)
>
> And please post the statutorily required photos!
>
> Patrick "2.2" is too skinny for our sandy acequia trails" Moore, 
> in the ABQ, NM, USA riverine bosque.
>
> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 10:01 AM 'kaelawoods' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> It's been 4 months since I built up my Gus, which also happens to 
>> be the first Rivendell I've ever ridden. ( I live halfway across the 
>> world 
>> and Rivs are scarce here). I've never ridden a Jones nor do I own a 
>> disc 
>> brake bike, but like you, I wanted a bike that can do it all, handle 
>> any 
>> trail I come across, and the Gus has been doing all that, and more. 
>> It's a 
>> strong, beautiful frame, definitely on the heavier side compared to 
>> my 
>> other low trail randonneuring bike which is a real lightweight,  but 
>> man 
>> it's just such a joy to ride. I think the wheel set and tires do 
>> contribute 
>> greatly to the ride feel, i built up a a pair of Velocity 
>> Cliffhangers with 
>> a front dynamo and currently have Rene Herse Umtanum Ridges on them. 
>> They're only 2.2" but work well for the mixed terrain in my country. 
>> Single 
>> track took some getting used to, which had nothing to do with the 
>> bike but 
>> the rider I'm sure. :) I have a friend wh

Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Max S]

*"Max: I beg forgiveness for using a puerile word, but that bike is neat!  
I did note the ass saver. 50 X 18 with those tires -- I'd guess 27" tall: 
75 or 76 gi? Just right for what I assume is a very light and efficient 
bike Whatzit Weigh?" *

Yep, just about 76 inch gear. Tires are Specialized 32 mm cross tubulars, 
latex tubes, so not too heavy for that size tire. The wheelset isn't much 
lighter, if at all, than my regular DA hubs with Reflex rims. A 50 mile 
ride on dirt roads around here will net only about 2,000 ft of elevation 
gain, so weight isn't a big priority. With those tires, rack, heavy bb and 
crank (by modern standards), spare tire, repair kit, full pump, lights, 
it's over 20 lbs. But the fit on the bike is good, and thanks to the wheel 
aerodynamics, I do manage a half-mph more on this than on other set-ups. 

The rear dropouts on the frame had been spread to 130 mm, so I can swap 
wheels with other bikes without too much trouble. I do have a wheel with a 
long-axled Surly fixed/fixed hub that I run sometimes, and riding fixed is 
somehow just as fast for me (but a bit more tiring). 

- Max "less whining, more fix(edgearrid)ing" in A2 

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 2:54:49 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Garth: Either your eyes or your monitor are better than mine. When I blow 
> up the image on my *$1K hi rez 42" work monitor* I can make out a fuzzy, 
> "maybe" Selle Italia, but that's it.
>
> Max: I beg forgiveness for using a puerile word, but that bike is *neat!*  
> I did note the ass saver. 50 X 18 with those tires -- I'd guess 27" tall: 
> 75 or 76 gi? Just right for what I assume is a very light and efficient 
> bike.
>
> Whatzit Weigh?
>
> My 1999 custom Joe gofast fixie is 18 event, but with heavy pedals (DA 
> SPDs at 360 grams the pair) and heavy Phil hubs F&R, and 2 Iris cages. 
> Original edition Flite saddle,
>
> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:01 AM Max S  wrote:
>
>> Garth is correct – Selle Italia SLR, one of the later models, 135 grams, 
>> no cutout. There's an "Ass Saver" on there. The wheels are Enve 6,7 – 60 
>> and 70 mm deep rims, front and rear, respectively, on DT Swiss 350 hubs. I 
>> was running a White Industries crank with a 50 t ring and 18 t rear cog (in 
>> aluminum) by Endless Cogs. Eriksen Ti seatpost, Ibis Ti stem. 
>>
>> - Max "the Fastest Pumpkin" in A2
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:56:44 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Oo  I wanna play "name that saddle" Patrick !  
>>>
>>> If you zoom into the photo you can see at the rear of the saddle the 
>>> stylistic remnants of *Italia *, and below forward of that 3 little 
>>> symbols which spell out SLR. That'd be a Selle Italia SLR saddle . 
>>> (((  for the cookie !   
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 8:07:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Max: Please explain (in excruciating detail): Fixed or ss? Gear inches? 
 What are those wheels, and especially, why? And explain radial. 2-cross 
 rear? What is that ass hatchet? (I don't doubt you find it comfortable; 
 I've been loving original issue Flites since 1990.) Custom decals 
 ...???!!! 
 And gravel tires and front rack to complete the package. 

 The list demands explanations!

 On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:06 AM Max S  wrote:

> Wow, many nice bikes. Gonna link to my Halloween Special Scary Riv... 
> I've got a black stem and seatpost I might swap in for the next 
> Halloween, 
> but in the meantime, I will put back some gray-finish wheels and cranks 
> back on, because gray & orange is a bit less "on the nose" :-) 
>
> - Max "sotto voce" in A2
>
> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/K9RbCHAtCzE 
> [image: image.jpeg]
>

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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[mbaquerizo]

the second story is an unfortunately heavy (like twice the rack below it) yepp 
adapter for my kids yepp seat. am I crazy to think people who like bikes would 
happily buy a yepp compatible nitto rack? or even surly or tubus. 

the bottom is a nitto campee. 


> On Dec 15, 2021, at 3:56 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
> 
> 
> Michael: What is that 2-story rack?
> 
>> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 1:38 PM Michael Baquerizo  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> due to covid supply chain issues and lack of funds this bike came together 
>> with a decent amount of black (maybe not as much as silver, but a mix) 
>> 
>> i ended up doing the same thing with my appaloosa as a result of liking it 
>> so much. i think i was very pro all silver at one point and was able to lax 
>> up a bit on that aesthetic.
>> 
>> you can't really see it but 
>> 
>> black kasai dyno hub
>> black deore rear hub
>> black deore rear derailleur
>> black paul thumbie
>> black and charcoal deore brake levers
>> black white industries crank arm
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Joe Bernard]

And here:

https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/Tw0_rSyCuhs


On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 12:29:35 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Matthew Williams linked:
>
> 
> Clem Smith H
> 52cm
> $2250*
> Ann Arbor, MI
>
> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7409230769.html
>
> *also listed here for $2000:
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2663376013967649
> 
>
> It's also on ebay for $3000:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175066323016?hash=item28c2c41848:g:1MQAAOSwnP5hkqqJ
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 7:58:41 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Saluki
>> 62cm
>> $2000
>> Laramie, WY
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/144319650691
>>
>> Redwood
>> 62cm
>> $1750
>> Palo Alto, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/palo-alto-rivendell-redwood-lugged/7415689768.html
>>
>> Atlantis F/F/HS
>> 51cm
>> $999
>> Jamestown, NY
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294610054062
>>
>> Appaloosa
>> 54cm
>> $4000
>> Patchogue, NY
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/255148243764
>>
>> Rambouillet
>> Medium (contact seller for size)
>> $300
>> Lowell, MA
>>
>> https://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/bik/d/lowell-rivendell-ramboulliet-classic/7418735163.html
>>
>> Rambouillet
>> 58cm
>> $1500
>> Huntsville, AL
>>
>> https://huntsville.craigslist.org/bik/d/huntsville-rivendell-rambouillet-58cm/7412785968.html
>>
>> Clem Smith H
>> 52cm
>> $2250*
>> Ann Arbor, MI
>>
>> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7409230769.html
>>
>> *also listed here for $2000:
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2663376013967649
>>
>> Appaloosa
>> 54cm
>> $2500
>> Dallas, TX
>>
>> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/waxahachie-joe-appaloosa-by-rivendell/7417683586.html
>>
>> A. Homer Hilsen
>> 67cm
>> $2100
>> Pacific Beach, CA
>>
>> https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bik/d/san-diego-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7406756215.html
>>
>> A. Homer Hilsen
>> 64cm
>> $3400
>> Rohnert Park, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7417960173.html
>>
>> Clem Smith Jr.
>> 64cm
>> $1000
>> Santa Cruz, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-rivendaleclem-smith-jrlike/7417901386.html
>>
>> Sam Hillborne
>> 62cm
>> $3100
>> Walnut Creek, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7416818469.html
>>
>> Roadini
>> 61cm
>> $1500
>> Walnut Creek, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-roadini-cm/7416815869.html
>>
>> Standard/L’Eroica (1995 Waterford) F/F/HS
>> 50cm
>> $1450
>> Fairfax, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/fairfax-wow-beautiful-1995-rivendell/7413622781.html
>>
>> Atlantis
>> size unspecified, contact seller
>> $2160
>> Newark, CA
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659541301709196
>>
>> Clem Smith L
>> size unspecified, contact seller
>> $2500
>> Midland, MI
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>>
>> Protovelo
>> 57.5cm
>> $1299
>> New York, NY
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/844420596174307
>>
>> Atlantis
>> 51cm
>> $1800
>> Old Saybrook, CT
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578
>>
>> Appaloosa
>> 57cm
>> C$5000
>> Montreal, QC
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150
>>
>> Romulus
>> 59cm
>> $2000
>> Meridian, ID
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/828474327784801
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Cranksets and Shifters

[Bill Lindsay]

The two cranksets are no longer available.  I donated them locally.  All 
sold!

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Sunday, December 12, 2021 at 1:56:48 PM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Deore Shifters claimed.  Two cranksets remain available.
>
> 1. Shimano Deore Hollowtech triple crankset.  175mm arms.  Model 
> #FC-M591.  They look almost completely unused.  I think these were a take 
> off on a newish team bike that we switched to a 2x or 1x.  $40 plus 
> shipping.  I can throw in a brand new BSA BB for another $10
>
> 2. Truvativ triple.  170mm arms.  ISIS BB compatible.  $20 plus shipping.  
>
> 3.  Shimano Deore 3x9 trigger shifters.  Model #SL-M751. SOLD
>
> Local pickup is entertained. 
> Here is a link to my "Stuff For Sale" flickr album.  Scroll to the bottom:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157634724093620
>
> On Saturday, December 11, 2021 at 9:32:25 AM UTC-8 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> A few low-cost items for sale for your winter projects:
>>
>> 1. Shimano Deore Hollowtech triple crankset.  175mm arms.  Model 
>> #FC-M591.  They look almost completely unused.  I think these were a take 
>> off on a newish team bike that we switched to a 2x or 1x.  $40 plus 
>> shipping.  I can throw in a brand new BSA BB for another $10
>>
>> 2. Truvativ triple.  170mm arms.  ISIS BB compatible.  $20 plus 
>> shipping.  
>>
>> 3.  Shimano Deore 3x9 trigger shifters.  Model #SL-M751.  $25 plus 
>> shipping.
>>
>> Local pickup is entertained. 
>> Here is a link to my "Stuff For Sale" flickr album.  Scroll to the bottom:
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72157634724093620
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Craigslist/others thread

[Bill Lindsay]

Matthew Williams linked:


Clem Smith H
52cm
$2250*
Ann Arbor, MI
https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7409230769.html

*also listed here for $2000:
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2663376013967649


It's also on ebay for $3000:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/175066323016?hash=item28c2c41848:g:1MQAAOSwnP5hkqqJ

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 7:58:41 PM UTC-8 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Saluki
> 62cm
> $2000
> Laramie, WY
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/144319650691
>
> Redwood
> 62cm
> $1750
> Palo Alto, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/pen/bik/d/palo-alto-rivendell-redwood-lugged/7415689768.html
>
> Atlantis F/F/HS
> 51cm
> $999
> Jamestown, NY
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294610054062
>
> Appaloosa
> 54cm
> $4000
> Patchogue, NY
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/255148243764
>
> Rambouillet
> Medium (contact seller for size)
> $300
> Lowell, MA
>
> https://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/bik/d/lowell-rivendell-ramboulliet-classic/7418735163.html
>
> Rambouillet
> 58cm
> $1500
> Huntsville, AL
>
> https://huntsville.craigslist.org/bik/d/huntsville-rivendell-rambouillet-58cm/7412785968.html
>
> Clem Smith H
> 52cm
> $2250*
> Ann Arbor, MI
>
> https://annarbor.craigslist.org/bik/d/ann-arbor-52cm-mustard-rivendell-clem/7409230769.html
>
> *also listed here for $2000:
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2663376013967649
>
> Appaloosa
> 54cm
> $2500
> Dallas, TX
>
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/bik/d/waxahachie-joe-appaloosa-by-rivendell/7417683586.html
>
> A. Homer Hilsen
> 67cm
> $2100
> Pacific Beach, CA
>
> https://sandiego.craigslist.org/csd/bik/d/san-diego-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7406756215.html
>
> A. Homer Hilsen
> 64cm
> $3400
> Rohnert Park, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/rohnert-park-rivendell-homer-hilsen/7417960173.html
>
> Clem Smith Jr.
> 64cm
> $1000
> Santa Cruz, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/d/santa-cruz-rivendaleclem-smith-jrlike/7417901386.html
>
> Sam Hillborne
> 62cm
> $3100
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7416818469.html
>
> Roadini
> 61cm
> $1500
> Walnut Creek, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/walnut-creek-rivendell-roadini-cm/7416815869.html
>
> Standard/L’Eroica (1995 Waterford) F/F/HS
> 50cm
> $1450
> Fairfax, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/fairfax-wow-beautiful-1995-rivendell/7413622781.html
>
> Atlantis
> size unspecified, contact seller
> $2160
> Newark, CA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659541301709196
>
> Clem Smith L
> size unspecified, contact seller
> $2500
> Midland, MI
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/659143348411672
>
> Protovelo
> 57.5cm
> $1299
> New York, NY
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/844420596174307
>
> Atlantis
> 51cm
> $1800
> Old Saybrook, CT
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/320886123015578
>
> Appaloosa
> 57cm
> C$5000
> Montreal, QC
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3075688719326150
>
> Romulus
> 59cm
> $2000
> Meridian, ID
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/828474327784801
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Patrick Moore]

Garth: Either your eyes or your monitor are better than mine. When I blow
up the image on my *$1K hi rez 42" work monitor* I can make out a fuzzy,
"maybe" Selle Italia, but that's it.

Max: I beg forgiveness for using a puerile word, but that bike is *neat!*
I did note the ass saver. 50 X 18 with those tires -- I'd guess 27" tall:
75 or 76 gi? Just right for what I assume is a very light and efficient
bike.

Whatzit Weigh?

My 1999 custom Joe gofast fixie is 18 event, but with heavy pedals (DA SPDs
at 360 grams the pair) and heavy Phil hubs F&R, and 2 Iris cages. Original
edition Flite saddle,

On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 8:01 AM Max S  wrote:

> Garth is correct – Selle Italia SLR, one of the later models, 135 grams,
> no cutout. There's an "Ass Saver" on there. The wheels are Enve 6,7 – 60
> and 70 mm deep rims, front and rear, respectively, on DT Swiss 350 hubs. I
> was running a White Industries crank with a 50 t ring and 18 t rear cog (in
> aluminum) by Endless Cogs. Eriksen Ti seatpost, Ibis Ti stem.
>
> - Max "the Fastest Pumpkin" in A2
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:56:44 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:
>
>> Oo  I wanna play "name that saddle" Patrick !
>>
>> If you zoom into the photo you can see at the rear of the saddle the
>> stylistic remnants of *Italia *, and below forward of that 3 little
>> symbols which spell out SLR. That'd be a Selle Italia SLR saddle .
>> (((  for the cookie !  
>>
>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 8:07:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> Max: Please explain (in excruciating detail): Fixed or ss? Gear inches?
>>> What are those wheels, and especially, why? And explain radial. 2-cross
>>> rear? What is that ass hatchet? (I don't doubt you find it comfortable;
>>> I've been loving original issue Flites since 1990.) Custom decals ...???!!!
>>> And gravel tires and front rack to complete the package.
>>>
>>> The list demands explanations!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:06 AM Max S  wrote:
>>>
 Wow, many nice bikes. Gonna link to my Halloween Special Scary Riv...
 I've got a black stem and seatpost I might swap in for the next Halloween,
 but in the meantime, I will put back some gray-finish wheels and cranks
 back on, because gray & orange is a bit less "on the nose" :-)

 - Max "sotto voce" in A2

 https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/K9RbCHAtCzE
 [image: image.jpeg]

>>>
>>> Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-cropping in ABQ, NM
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Show me some bikes with black components

[Eric Marth]

Thanks to everyone for the pictures and comments!

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 10:30:36 AM UTC-5 Marc Irwin wrote:

> Here's my Soma Buena Vista with black components and black powder coated 
> Hunq.
> [image: Buena Vista.jpg][image: hunq pose.jpg]
>
> On Friday, December 10, 2021 at 11:39:15 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I'm pretty sure that I dislike black components on bikes. Oh, I can 
>> handle a black derailer or some brakes, I guess. But all black stem, bars, 
>> seatpost, crank, etc is, I'm thinking, not my cup of tea. I'm more of a 
>> decaf espresso type. 
>>
>> Any who — can anyone share with me pictures of nice builds with black 
>> components? 
>>
>> With gratitude,
>> Eric 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Ryan Frahm]

And thank you Laura for complicating it further! Haha. The LimeOlive really 
looks nicer in that picture above as well! I do love green but wasn’t sure 
with so few pictures to see it in better light. My build will likely end up 
being silver. It will also start out as a mix of things I have and will be 
searching eBay for just to get it together. 

At least I have a few hours left to decide!

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:59:19 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> Hey Eric, thank you for that color comparison! I agree there is no wrong 
> choice myself. 
>
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:52:47 AM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> If you are in the Susie category, that LimeOlive is deceptively slick! It 
>> tips the scale on handsome when paired with black & grey. But, if you want 
>> to add color with anodized bits, and housing, the choices are varied… blue, 
>> purple, raspberry, or even green would top my list. 
>>
>> The DarkGold is beautiful, but many of the off-the-shelf component 
>> colors, to my eyes, would be too strong for it. It begs to be adorned with 
>> grey and silver, which is its own type of perfection. Of course, someone 
>> will post examples to prove me wrong, but that is how I differentiate the 
>> two colors.
>> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:06:25 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Frahm30, I don't have a Gus or Susie but, man, the colors slated for 
>>> these frames are great! You can't go wrong. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-12-15 at 8.04.56 AM.png]
>>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 7:25:16 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>

 Haha, thanks! I only have one bike. If this works out, it will be my 
 new only bike!
 On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Dark Gold rules. If I was still that guy who buys too many bikes I 
> would be all over this. Enjoy! 
>
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Crunch time! I talked to Will and he recommended a large Susie. I’m 
>> definitely leaning towards dark gold. But my wife says both colors look 
>> like something from our daughters pants still. Haha. With a February, or 
>> let’s be honest, later delivery, I will have plenty of time to source 
>> the 
>> few parts I will need. Ordered the Bosco bars today to pacify me. 
>>
>> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 5:31:44 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Patrick! I was actually just in ABQ over thanksgiving. Riding on 
>>> 2.6” tires now but the i36 rim helps them spread out. Having to use the 
>>> i25 
>>> cliffhanger is one of the things that has me hesitating, I’m a fan of 
>>> wide 
>>> rims. I’m back and forth. Should probably wait for the next Clem run. 
>>> The 
>>> Gus just has so much style!
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 5:39:23 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 What country do you live in? (Sorry for leaving out a salutation; 
 don't know your name.)

 And please post the statutorily required photos!

 Patrick "2.2" is too skinny for our sandy acequia trails" Moore, in 
 the ABQ, NM, USA riverine bosque.

 On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 10:01 AM 'kaelawoods' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> It's been 4 months since I built up my Gus, which also happens to 
> be the first Rivendell I've ever ridden. ( I live halfway across the 
> world 
> and Rivs are scarce here). I've never ridden a Jones nor do I own a 
> disc 
> brake bike, but like you, I wanted a bike that can do it all, handle 
> any 
> trail I come across, and the Gus has been doing all that, and more. 
> It's a 
> strong, beautiful frame, definitely on the heavier side compared to 
> my 
> other low trail randonneuring bike which is a real lightweight,  but 
> man 
> it's just such a joy to ride. I think the wheel set and tires do 
> contribute 
> greatly to the ride feel, i built up a a pair of Velocity 
> Cliffhangers with 
> a front dynamo and currently have Rene Herse Umtanum Ridges on them. 
> They're only 2.2" but work well for the mixed terrain in my country. 
> Single 
> track took some getting used to, which had nothing to do with the 
> bike but 
> the rider I'm sure. :) I have a friend who owns the Susie and I think 
> you 
> can't go wrong with either, but I think the Gus is just... 
> invincible. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Ryan Frahm]

Hey Eric, thank you for that color comparison! I agree there is no wrong 
choice myself. 

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 7:52:47 AM UTC-8 me2g...@gmail.com wrote:

> If you are in the Susie category, that LimeOlive is deceptively slick! It 
> tips the scale on handsome when paired with black & grey. But, if you want 
> to add color with anodized bits, and housing, the choices are varied… blue, 
> purple, raspberry, or even green would top my list. 
>
> The DarkGold is beautiful, but many of the off-the-shelf component colors, 
> to my eyes, would be too strong for it. It begs to be adorned with grey and 
> silver, which is its own type of perfection. Of course, someone will post 
> examples to prove me wrong, but that is how I differentiate the two colors.
> On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:06:25 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Frahm30, I don't have a Gus or Susie but, man, the colors slated for 
>> these frames are great! You can't go wrong. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2021-12-15 at 8.04.56 AM.png]
>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 7:25:16 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Haha, thanks! I only have one bike. If this works out, it will be my new 
>>> only bike!
>>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Dark Gold rules. If I was still that guy who buys too many bikes I 
 would be all over this. Enjoy! 

 On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Crunch time! I talked to Will and he recommended a large Susie. I’m 
> definitely leaning towards dark gold. But my wife says both colors look 
> like something from our daughters pants still. Haha. With a February, or 
> let’s be honest, later delivery, I will have plenty of time to source the 
> few parts I will need. Ordered the Bosco bars today to pacify me. 
>
> On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 5:31:44 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:
>
>> Hey Patrick! I was actually just in ABQ over thanksgiving. Riding on 
>> 2.6” tires now but the i36 rim helps them spread out. Having to use the 
>> i25 
>> cliffhanger is one of the things that has me hesitating, I’m a fan of 
>> wide 
>> rims. I’m back and forth. Should probably wait for the next Clem run. 
>> The 
>> Gus just has so much style!
>>
>> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 5:39:23 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What country do you live in? (Sorry for leaving out a salutation; 
>>> don't know your name.)
>>>
>>> And please post the statutorily required photos!
>>>
>>> Patrick "2.2" is too skinny for our sandy acequia trails" Moore, in 
>>> the ABQ, NM, USA riverine bosque.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 10:01 AM 'kaelawoods' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
 It's been 4 months since I built up my Gus, which also happens to 
 be the first Rivendell I've ever ridden. ( I live halfway across the 
 world 
 and Rivs are scarce here). I've never ridden a Jones nor do I own a 
 disc 
 brake bike, but like you, I wanted a bike that can do it all, handle 
 any 
 trail I come across, and the Gus has been doing all that, and more. 
 It's a 
 strong, beautiful frame, definitely on the heavier side compared to my 
 other low trail randonneuring bike which is a real lightweight,  but 
 man 
 it's just such a joy to ride. I think the wheel set and tires do 
 contribute 
 greatly to the ride feel, i built up a a pair of Velocity Cliffhangers 
 with 
 a front dynamo and currently have Rene Herse Umtanum Ridges on them. 
 They're only 2.2" but work well for the mixed terrain in my country. 
 Single 
 track took some getting used to, which had nothing to do with the bike 
 but 
 the rider I'm sure. :) I have a friend who owns the Susie and I think 
 you 
 can't go wrong with either, but I think the Gus is just... invincible. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus or Susie, am I crazy?

[Laura]

If you are in the Susie category, that LimeOlive is deceptively slick! It 
tips the scale on handsome when paired with black & grey. But, if you want 
to add color with anodized bits, and housing, the choices are varied… blue, 
purple, raspberry, or even green would top my list. 

The DarkGold is beautiful, but many of the off-the-shelf component colors, 
to my eyes, would be too strong for it. It begs to be adorned with grey and 
silver, which is its own type of perfection. Of course, someone will post 
examples to prove me wrong, but that is how I differentiate the two colors.
On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 8:06:25 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Frahm30, I don't have a Gus or Susie but, man, the colors slated for these 
> frames are great! You can't go wrong. 
>
> [image: Screen Shot 2021-12-15 at 8.04.56 AM.png]
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 7:25:16 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Haha, thanks! I only have one bike. If this works out, it will be my new 
>> only bike!
>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Dark Gold rules. If I was still that guy who buys too many bikes I would 
>>> be all over this. Enjoy! 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 3:59:12 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Crunch time! I talked to Will and he recommended a large Susie. I’m 
 definitely leaning towards dark gold. But my wife says both colors look 
 like something from our daughters pants still. Haha. With a February, or 
 let’s be honest, later delivery, I will have plenty of time to source the 
 few parts I will need. Ordered the Bosco bars today to pacify me. 

 On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 5:31:44 AM UTC-8 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> Hey Patrick! I was actually just in ABQ over thanksgiving. Riding on 
> 2.6” tires now but the i36 rim helps them spread out. Having to use the 
> i25 
> cliffhanger is one of the things that has me hesitating, I’m a fan of 
> wide 
> rims. I’m back and forth. Should probably wait for the next Clem run. The 
> Gus just has so much style!
>
> On Wednesday, December 8, 2021 at 5:39:23 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> What country do you live in? (Sorry for leaving out a salutation; 
>> don't know your name.)
>>
>> And please post the statutorily required photos!
>>
>> Patrick "2.2" is too skinny for our sandy acequia trails" Moore, in 
>> the ABQ, NM, USA riverine bosque.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 8, 2021 at 10:01 AM 'kaelawoods' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's been 4 months since I built up my Gus, which also happens to be 
>>> the first Rivendell I've ever ridden. ( I live halfway across the world 
>>> and 
>>> Rivs are scarce here). I've never ridden a Jones nor do I own a disc 
>>> brake 
>>> bike, but like you, I wanted a bike that can do it all, handle any 
>>> trail I 
>>> come across, and the Gus has been doing all that, and more. It's a 
>>> strong, 
>>> beautiful frame, definitely on the heavier side compared to my other 
>>> low 
>>> trail randonneuring bike which is a real lightweight,  but man it's 
>>> just 
>>> such a joy to ride. I think the wheel set and tires do contribute 
>>> greatly 
>>> to the ride feel, i built up a a pair of Velocity Cliffhangers with a 
>>> front 
>>> dynamo and currently have Rene Herse Umtanum Ridges on them. They're 
>>> only 
>>> 2.2" but work well for the mixed terrain in my country. Single track 
>>> took 
>>> some getting used to, which had nothing to do with the bike but the 
>>> rider 
>>> I'm sure. :) I have a friend who owns the Susie and I think you can't 
>>> go 
>>> wrong with either, but I think the Gus is just... invincible. 
>>>
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>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> ---
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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Re: [RBW] Thousand Helmets

[spencer robinson]

if anyone is curious, and wants to try a Thousand helmet in Stealth black, 
size Med, (57-59cm) I have one, I tried it on, put a "Sheldon eagle" 
sticker on it but never rode it. send me a pm and we can arrive at a 
reasonable price.

Spencer

On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 10:43:59 PM UTC-5 divis...@gmail.com wrote:

> I had a similar sync-up with the Giro Pneumo. It fit great; Giro 
> discontinued it; the replacement model (whose name I've forgotten) didn't 
> fit at all. Giro rebooted the Pneumo in a MIPS version several years later, 
> which also didn't fit.
>
> The Giro Bishop fits; I've worn one daily for about four years. I suppose 
> I should start trying on helmets again, to be prepared for the next time I 
> need a replacement.
>
> As long as the helmet's passed the certifications, I suspect all helmets 
> provide equivalent protection. The key thing is whether it fits, which can 
> only be established by trying it on. And whether you wear it properly.
>
> As for Grant's helmet grudges: Grant's *just this guy*, you know? I'm 
> sure we've all got our own fixations; there's no need to accept Grant's 
> fixations as determinative for yourself, if you didn't already embrace them 
> on your own. I feel fully entitled to disregard Grant's preferences when 
> they contradict my own, such as his distaste for high-waisted bike pants. I 
> have a pair of MUSA pants that I practically never wear, because I hate the 
> way they pull down and expose my buttcrack - cold on the kidneys, and an 
> unpleasant view for whoever's behind me. But I am an in-duh-vidual; I don't 
> have to embrace Grant's preferences if I don't wanna.
>
> Peter Adler
> who's been in enough scary crashes and around enough careless/reckless 
> drivers to be an always-helmeted rider, and who has turned around and 
> ridden home three miles to retrieve his helmet after thoughtlessly riding 
> off without one in
> Berkeley, CA/USA
>
>
> On Monday, December 13, 2021 at 9:33:09 AM UTC-8 lconley wrote:
>
>> The Thousand Helmets are too small for me, as usual with most bike 
>> helmets (64cm circumference). When I was working in Everett, WA a few years 
>> (5+?) back, I drove down to Portland to find a bike helmet. I went to 
>> Universal Cycles and tried on twenty helmets or so, and a couple were OK, 
>> but the salesman refused to sell them too me, because he said that they did 
>> not fit correctly. He told me that I needed a Giro Bishop, and called 
>> around to his competitors and found one and sent me over to buy it - it fit 
>> perfectly. Of course, Giro no longer makes the Bishop.
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Max S]

Garth is correct – Selle Italia SLR, one of the later models, 135 grams, no 
cutout. There's an "Ass Saver" on there. The wheels are Enve 6,7 – 60 and 
70 mm deep rims, front and rear, respectively, on DT Swiss 350 hubs. I was 
running a White Industries crank with a 50 t ring and 18 t rear cog (in 
aluminum) by Endless Cogs. Eriksen Ti seatpost, Ibis Ti stem. 

- Max "the Fastest Pumpkin" in A2

On Wednesday, December 15, 2021 at 3:56:44 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> Oo  I wanna play "name that saddle" Patrick !  
>
> If you zoom into the photo you can see at the rear of the saddle the 
> stylistic remnants of *Italia *, and below forward of that 3 little 
> symbols which spell out SLR. That'd be a Selle Italia SLR saddle . 
> (((  for the cookie !   
>
> On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 8:07:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Max: Please explain (in excruciating detail): Fixed or ss? Gear inches? 
>> What are those wheels, and especially, why? And explain radial. 2-cross 
>> rear? What is that ass hatchet? (I don't doubt you find it comfortable; 
>> I've been loving original issue Flites since 1990.) Custom decals ...???!!! 
>> And gravel tires and front rack to complete the package. 
>>
>> The list demands explanations!
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:06 AM Max S  wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, many nice bikes. Gonna link to my Halloween Special Scary Riv... 
>>> I've got a black stem and seatpost I might swap in for the next Halloween, 
>>> but in the meantime, I will put back some gray-finish wheels and cranks 
>>> back on, because gray & orange is a bit less "on the nose" :-) 
>>>
>>> - Max "sotto voce" in A2
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/K9RbCHAtCzE 
>>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>>
>>
>> Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-cropping in ABQ, NM 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: 1987 TREK 330 ELANCE - F/F/HS/BB/BRAKES - $300 + shipping, OBO

[Patch T]

Crickets! $225 + shipping?

On Thursday, December 9, 2021 at 11:27:33 AM UTC-5 Patch T wrote:

> Howdy Bunch,
>
> I have a 1987 Trek 330 Elance in cherry red that won't fit its intended 
> rider. Ready for a 650b conversion - a great light-tourer, commuter, or 
> just-ride bike. Currently listed with installed VO headset, Shimano UN55 
> BB, and long reach Tektro brakes, ready for a 650b conversion. Room for 
> 38s; technically 42s fit but it's close around the chain stays.
>
> I also have a 650b wheelset (100/126 spaced Sansin freehub; Velocity 
> Aerohead 650b rims) + parts enough for a complete Rivish build, if you're 
> interested.
>
> *PLEASE NOTE: there is a small dent in the top tube, pictured.*
>
> 1987 TREK 330 ELANCE 
>  - 
> F/F/HS/BB/BRAKES - $300 + shipping OBO
>
>- 19"/47.5CM
>- red
>- Reynolds 531
>- new VO Grand Cru headset
>- new BB UN55 x 110 (I think)
>- new Tektro R559 (650b ready - clearance for 650b x 38)
>- dent in top tube, see photos
>
> PHOTOS HERE 
>
> Thank you
> Patch, NYC
>

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Re: [RBW] Show me some bikes with black components

[Garth]

Oo  I wanna play "name that saddle" Patrick !  

If you zoom into the photo you can see at the rear of the saddle the 
stylistic remnants of *Italia *, and below forward of that 3 little symbols 
which spell out SLR. That'd be a Selle Italia SLR saddle . (((  for 
the cookie !   

On Tuesday, December 14, 2021 at 8:07:14 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Max: Please explain (in excruciating detail): Fixed or ss? Gear inches? 
> What are those wheels, and especially, why? And explain radial. 2-cross 
> rear? What is that ass hatchet? (I don't doubt you find it comfortable; 
> I've been loving original issue Flites since 1990.) Custom decals ...???!!! 
> And gravel tires and front rack to complete the package. 
>
> The list demands explanations!
>
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 2:06 AM Max S  wrote:
>
>> Wow, many nice bikes. Gonna link to my Halloween Special Scary Riv... 
>> I've got a black stem and seatpost I might swap in for the next Halloween, 
>> but in the meantime, I will put back some gray-finish wheels and cranks 
>> back on, because gray & orange is a bit less "on the nose" :-) 
>>
>> - Max "sotto voce" in A2
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/K9RbCHAtCzE 
>> [image: image.jpeg]
>>
>
> Patrick Moore, grimly bottom-cropping in ABQ, NM 
>

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