[RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

There's something going on with the seatstays, too, they attach 
significantly lower than the top of the seatlug. All kinds of choices there 
that are different from the Platypus, it's really not a Platy except for 
the donated fork. 


On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 7:53:21 PM UTC-8 Paul Clifton wrote:

> FWIW - The seat post clamp is reversed on the baby bikes.
>
> The seat tube angle on the baby bike is 68 degrees though, so I thought it 
> had something to do with taking the metal out of the seat tube on the side 
> that doesn't have all that pressure on it.
>
> Paul in AR
>
> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 4:57:22 PM UTC-6 Garth wrote:
>
>> Yes it's likely the sp clamp is for the protos only as they do odd things 
>> with protos sometimes. The canti was mentioned in the Dec 10 blahg. Here it 
>> is in all it's brevity.  
>>
>> *Here are some things we're working on. You may be familiar with some, 
>> but probably not all:*
>>
>> *4. Two V-brakes. We need only one, but in the interest of more than one 
>> iron in the fire, we're working on two, with two different people and 
>> places. Discs are taking over, but we're all firm V-brake fans, except for 
>> Mark, who can't give up his cantilevers for his personal bikes, but admits 
>> that V-brakes are really good.*
>>
>> *4. One cantilever brake. Started it along time ago. It's easy enough to 
>> keep going. I wish we had control over it, but we don*'t.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:07:37 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I have not heard anyone from Riv say the front-facing clamp bolt is to 
>>> discourage cantis. I'm also unaware of a Riv canti being worked on although 
>>> it's possible I've forgotten, they're planning a v-brake. 
>>>
>>> One nice thing about this positioning is the bolt is easier to get to 
>>> with a saddlebag in place. I'm a notorious saddle height fiddler and am 
>>> constantly fighting bags to squeeze my wrench in there. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 


 On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it 
> should be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, 
> admittedly. Did anyone else look at the images and wonder what possessed 
> Riv to do such wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose with 
> the Rosco models? They are always such careful color choosers but this 
> time 
> they really went for it. Fun!
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should 
>> ride."  To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>
>>> [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
>>> Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint and 
 you're there. I dig it! 

 Joe Bernard

 On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom bike 
> and both look excellent!
> Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]
>


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[RBW] Re: A Pumpkin Platypus, Perchance?

[Gill]

Lovely pictures of a sharp looking bike set in a really nice neck of the 
woods. I happen to have just returned from the area and while I enjoyed the 
visit I couldn’t shake the feeling everyone in Asheville was way cooler 
than me. Your introductory post has served to strengthen this view. Look 
forward to future ride reports.

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 8:39:23 PM UTC-5 Heather Hayes wrote:

> Happy New Year to my fellow Platy people! I know I’m late to the Platy 
> party, but I just wanted to introduce myself and my Pumpkin Platypus. We’re 
> so honored to be here among the esteemed RBW Owners Bunch! I’ve been a 
> lurking wallflower on the forum for a while, and have so enjoyed watching 
> the reveals of all your lovely builds!
>
>
> Though I initially had my heart set on a mermaid Platypus when they first 
> went live back in April, the online order form had other ideas. I cracked 
> my knuckles, hovered over the purchase button, then clicked BUY NOW with 
> the authority of a seasoned judge pounding a gavel… but my mermaid 
> selection auto-changed to limeolive, dashing my aqua-colored dreams. There 
> was nary a 50cm mermaid to be found anywhere. No offense to the lovely 
> limeolive, but as a graphic designer, having a color I personally LOVED was 
> very important to me! Reframing crisis as opportunity, I decided to repaint 
> the frame a custom color. Pea soup to pumpkin bisque instead, please!
>
>
> After many, many, MANY nail-biting months of waiting, the newly painted 
> frame finally arrived. I carefully unwrapped my brand new Pumpkin Platy 
> with the same awe and enthusiasm of the father in A Christmas Story 
> unpacking his beloved leg lamp. (Though thankfully Rivendells are MUCH 
> sturdier!) ;)
>
>
> My Platy mainly enjoys conquering steeper terrain here in the beautiful 
> Blue Ridge Mountains of Asheville, NC, but still loves adventuring near 
> aquatic habitats as well. Here on the forum, the swoopy elegance of this 
> frame has aptly been likened by Leah to that of a prom dress. Set up as a 
> gravel grinder, I wanted this badass bike to sport combat boots underneath 
> the sparkly orange gown. (She’s a gorgeous prom queen, but you're also kind 
> of afraid she'll kick you in the shins!) 
>
>
> My sweet RBW blue Cheviot townie now has a fierce and fiery friend by her 
> side, and I love having not one but two Rivendells to *JUST RIDE!* 
>
> [image: Platy1.jpg][image: Platy2.jpg][image: Platy3.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Paul Clifton]

FWIW - The seat post clamp is reversed on the baby bikes.

The seat tube angle on the baby bike is 68 degrees though, so I thought it 
had something to do with taking the metal out of the seat tube on the side 
that doesn't have all that pressure on it.

Paul in AR

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 4:57:22 PM UTC-6 Garth wrote:

> Yes it's likely the sp clamp is for the protos only as they do odd things 
> with protos sometimes. The canti was mentioned in the Dec 10 blahg. Here it 
> is in all it's brevity.  
>
> *Here are some things we're working on. You may be familiar with some, but 
> probably not all:*
>
> *4. Two V-brakes. We need only one, but in the interest of more than one 
> iron in the fire, we're working on two, with two different people and 
> places. Discs are taking over, but we're all firm V-brake fans, except for 
> Mark, who can't give up his cantilevers for his personal bikes, but admits 
> that V-brakes are really good.*
>
> *4. One cantilever brake. Started it along time ago. It's easy enough to 
> keep going. I wish we had control over it, but we don*'t.
>
>
> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:07:37 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I have not heard anyone from Riv say the front-facing clamp bolt is to 
>> discourage cantis. I'm also unaware of a Riv canti being worked on although 
>> it's possible I've forgotten, they're planning a v-brake. 
>>
>> One nice thing about this positioning is the bolt is easier to get to 
>> with a saddlebag in place. I'm a notorious saddle height fiddler and am 
>> constantly fighting bags to squeeze my wrench in there. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it 
 should be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, 
 admittedly. Did anyone else look at the images and wonder what possessed 
 Riv to do such wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose with 
 the Rosco models? They are always such careful color choosers but this 
 time 
 they really went for it. Fun!

 On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should 
> ride."  To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>
>> [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
>> Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 
>>
>> On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint and 
>>> you're there. I dig it! 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom bike and 
 both look excellent!
 Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: A Pumpkin Platypus, Perchance?

[Paul Clifton]

Wow, that's a perfect bike - everything about it! For me, in particular, 
beside the color, it's the bar tape, the triple crank with a small 
cassette, and the continental King tires - it all creates a bike that looks 
like it is for riding!

What bar tape and rack are those?

Congratulations on the very cool new bike!

Paul in AR

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 7:39:23 PM UTC-6 Heather Hayes wrote:

> Happy New Year to my fellow Platy people! I know I’m late to the Platy 
> party, but I just wanted to introduce myself and my Pumpkin Platypus. We’re 
> so honored to be here among the esteemed RBW Owners Bunch! I’ve been a 
> lurking wallflower on the forum for a while, and have so enjoyed watching 
> the reveals of all your lovely builds!
>
>
> Though I initially had my heart set on a mermaid Platypus when they first 
> went live back in April, the online order form had other ideas. I cracked 
> my knuckles, hovered over the purchase button, then clicked BUY NOW with 
> the authority of a seasoned judge pounding a gavel… but my mermaid 
> selection auto-changed to limeolive, dashing my aqua-colored dreams. There 
> was nary a 50cm mermaid to be found anywhere. No offense to the lovely 
> limeolive, but as a graphic designer, having a color I personally LOVED was 
> very important to me! Reframing crisis as opportunity, I decided to repaint 
> the frame a custom color. Pea soup to pumpkin bisque instead, please!
>
>
> After many, many, MANY nail-biting months of waiting, the newly painted 
> frame finally arrived. I carefully unwrapped my brand new Pumpkin Platy 
> with the same awe and enthusiasm of the father in A Christmas Story 
> unpacking his beloved leg lamp. (Though thankfully Rivendells are MUCH 
> sturdier!) ;)
>
>
> My Platy mainly enjoys conquering steeper terrain here in the beautiful 
> Blue Ridge Mountains of Asheville, NC, but still loves adventuring near 
> aquatic habitats as well. Here on the forum, the swoopy elegance of this 
> frame has aptly been likened by Leah to that of a prom dress. Set up as a 
> gravel grinder, I wanted this badass bike to sport combat boots underneath 
> the sparkly orange gown. (She’s a gorgeous prom queen, but you're also kind 
> of afraid she'll kick you in the shins!) 
>
>
> My sweet RBW blue Cheviot townie now has a fierce and fiery friend by her 
> side, and I love having not one but two Rivendells to *JUST RIDE!* 
>
> [image: Platy1.jpg][image: Platy2.jpg][image: Platy3.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: A Pumpkin Platypus, Perchance?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Oh, Heather! I was just heading to bed and read your post and now I’m too 
excited to sleep. Are we sisters? We might be sisters. RivSisters, yes, 
obviously, but maybe long-lost sisters, too. All your details are not lost 
on me. I see you with your wonderfully executed PlatyPose. I see your down 
vest in complementary pumpkin and coral. I feel your exuberance in your 
lovely, descriptive writing style and ballgown/combat boot analogies. We 
just “met” and I already adore you. And finally - you also have two Riv 
mixtes?!? Yes, we are sisters. (Actually I really do have a sister named 
Heather.)

The pumpkin bisque color (apparently we also have gourmet food in common): 
it is out of this world lovely. Luscious. Please, please send us more 
photos and of your pretty blue Cheviot townie, too. Do they ride any 
differently, or are they pretty similar? What made you want a second one? I 
have so many curiosities, if you are inclined to chat about them…

Heartbreak: I remember the Platy Launch Day so well. The heartbreak was 
palpable. Who knew this would be the bike that would sell out in mere 
minutes? Men and women both clamoring for them. I’m so glad you got one, 
even if the color was wrong. 

Now it is exactly right. 

Please don’t be a stranger on this forum. You are delightful. I am so happy 
for you and it is so good to see a Platy in a new color.
Leah

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 8:39:23 PM UTC-5 Heather Hayes wrote:

> Happy New Year to my fellow Platy people! I know I’m late to the Platy 
> party, but I just wanted to introduce myself and my Pumpkin Platypus. We’re 
> so honored to be here among the esteemed RBW Owners Bunch! I’ve been a 
> lurking wallflower on the forum for a while, and have so enjoyed watching 
> the reveals of all your lovely builds!
>
>
> Though I initially had my heart set on a mermaid Platypus when they first 
> went live back in April, the online order form had other ideas. I cracked 
> my knuckles, hovered over the purchase button, then clicked BUY NOW with 
> the authority of a seasoned judge pounding a gavel… but my mermaid 
> selection auto-changed to limeolive, dashing my aqua-colored dreams. There 
> was nary a 50cm mermaid to be found anywhere. No offense to the lovely 
> limeolive, but as a graphic designer, having a color I personally LOVED was 
> very important to me! Reframing crisis as opportunity, I decided to repaint 
> the frame a custom color. Pea soup to pumpkin bisque instead, please!
>
>
> After many, many, MANY nail-biting months of waiting, the newly painted 
> frame finally arrived. I carefully unwrapped my brand new Pumpkin Platy 
> with the same awe and enthusiasm of the father in A Christmas Story 
> unpacking his beloved leg lamp. (Though thankfully Rivendells are MUCH 
> sturdier!) ;)
>
>
> My Platy mainly enjoys conquering steeper terrain here in the beautiful 
> Blue Ridge Mountains of Asheville, NC, but still loves adventuring near 
> aquatic habitats as well. Here on the forum, the swoopy elegance of this 
> frame has aptly been likened by Leah to that of a prom dress. Set up as a 
> gravel grinder, I wanted this badass bike to sport combat boots underneath 
> the sparkly orange gown. (She’s a gorgeous prom queen, but you're also kind 
> of afraid she'll kick you in the shins!) 
>
>
> My sweet RBW blue Cheviot townie now has a fierce and fiery friend by her 
> side, and I love having not one but two Rivendells to *JUST RIDE!* 
>
> [image: Platy1.jpg][image: Platy2.jpg][image: Platy3.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: A Pumpkin Platypus, Perchance?

[Yankeebird]

The Fastest Color.

Who did the paint work? Saving the decals, nice touch, plus what appears to 
be a raised physical RBW badge on the seatpost...?

Congratulations on this!

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 8:39:23 PM UTC-5 Heather Hayes wrote:

> Happy New Year to my fellow Platy people! I know I’m late to the Platy 
> party, but I just wanted to introduce myself and my Pumpkin Platypus. We’re 
> so honored to be here among the esteemed RBW Owners Bunch! I’ve been a 
> lurking wallflower on the forum for a while, and have so enjoyed watching 
> the reveals of all your lovely builds!
>
>
> Though I initially had my heart set on a mermaid Platypus when they first 
> went live back in April, the online order form had other ideas. I cracked 
> my knuckles, hovered over the purchase button, then clicked BUY NOW with 
> the authority of a seasoned judge pounding a gavel… but my mermaid 
> selection auto-changed to limeolive, dashing my aqua-colored dreams. There 
> was nary a 50cm mermaid to be found anywhere. No offense to the lovely 
> limeolive, but as a graphic designer, having a color I personally LOVED was 
> very important to me! Reframing crisis as opportunity, I decided to repaint 
> the frame a custom color. Pea soup to pumpkin bisque instead, please!
>
>
> After many, many, MANY nail-biting months of waiting, the newly painted 
> frame finally arrived. I carefully unwrapped my brand new Pumpkin Platy 
> with the same awe and enthusiasm of the father in A Christmas Story 
> unpacking his beloved leg lamp. (Though thankfully Rivendells are MUCH 
> sturdier!) ;)
>
>
> My Platy mainly enjoys conquering steeper terrain here in the beautiful 
> Blue Ridge Mountains of Asheville, NC, but still loves adventuring near 
> aquatic habitats as well. Here on the forum, the swoopy elegance of this 
> frame has aptly been likened by Leah to that of a prom dress. Set up as a 
> gravel grinder, I wanted this badass bike to sport combat boots underneath 
> the sparkly orange gown. (She’s a gorgeous prom queen, but you're also kind 
> of afraid she'll kick you in the shins!) 
>
>
> My sweet RBW blue Cheviot townie now has a fierce and fiery friend by her 
> side, and I love having not one but two Rivendells to *JUST RIDE!* 
>
> [image: Platy1.jpg][image: Platy2.jpg][image: Platy3.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

Well there ya go. I have a very vague memory that they considered a Silver 
brand canti ages ago, I didn't realize it was still on the table. 


On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:57:22 PM UTC-8 Garth wrote:

> Yes it's likely the sp clamp is for the protos only as they do odd things 
> with protos sometimes. The canti was mentioned in the Dec 10 blahg. Here it 
> is in all it's brevity.  
>
> *Here are some things we're working on. You may be familiar with some, but 
> probably not all:*
>
> *4. Two V-brakes. We need only one, but in the interest of more than one 
> iron in the fire, we're working on two, with two different people and 
> places. Discs are taking over, but we're all firm V-brake fans, except for 
> Mark, who can't give up his cantilevers for his personal bikes, but admits 
> that V-brakes are really good.*
>
> *4. One cantilever brake. Started it along time ago. It's easy enough to 
> keep going. I wish we had control over it, but we don*'t.
>
>
> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:07:37 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I have not heard anyone from Riv say the front-facing clamp bolt is to 
>> discourage cantis. I'm also unaware of a Riv canti being worked on although 
>> it's possible I've forgotten, they're planning a v-brake. 
>>
>> One nice thing about this positioning is the bolt is easier to get to 
>> with a saddlebag in place. I'm a notorious saddle height fiddler and am 
>> constantly fighting bags to squeeze my wrench in there. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it 
 should be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, 
 admittedly. Did anyone else look at the images and wonder what possessed 
 Riv to do such wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose with 
 the Rosco models? They are always such careful color choosers but this 
 time 
 they really went for it. Fun!

 On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should 
> ride."  To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>
>> [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
>> Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 
>>
>> On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint and 
>>> you're there. I dig it! 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom bike and 
 both look excellent!
 Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[Garth]

A great way to store all the bikes in the world would be to never need to 
store them in the first place, yes ? They only appear, manifest, "on 
demand", as the need arises or called upon. Laugh as any may, it's apparent 
to me this is already happening as I speak, that the entire "world" as I/we 
know it as "me and my Life" are "instants"... instantacious-ness.. for lack 
of a better word ! All that exists is this "here and now" so to speak. This 
never ending or beginning "Presence" that is, this, The/IS.  

Life is More Grand than the Grandest of ideas of just how grand Life is !  
Yee-hah ! 

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 3:41:28 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> Leah - I have the "Proslat" branded slatwall system, and highly recommend 
> it. There are a lot of good systems shown here but the slatwall system has 
> a few benefits over most bike hanging systems: 
>
> - The bike hooks can be moved about freely, to fine tune for handlebar 
> widths, etc. 
> - You can add or subtract them easily also, maybe add an extra couple 
> hooks for some new winter tire hangers for instance
> - The system also includes a wide variety of different hooks and 
> attachments so you can put all kinds of other stuff on the wall too
>
> If I had a garage I would for sure panel a whole wall with these!!  I use 
> it in my little storage room which has three bikes in a tiny space thanks 
> to their adjustability.  They can tend to slide sideways when you're 
> putting the bike on, so I use a little tape to hold them in place. 
>
>
>
> On Sunday, 2 January 2022 at 12:18:27 UTC-8 alex g wrote:
>
>> I use the old trek/bontrager version of the Saris cycle glide system (  
>> https://www.saris.com/product/cycleglidestorage-system  ) I like it 
>> because you can "compact" your bikes together regardless of handlebar 
>> width. Each rack will hold 4 bikes or up to 8 in s pinch (holding only by 
>> one wheel). cfdt77p
>> Alex in WI
>>
>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 8:04:32 AM UTC-6 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I just bought two of these off Amazon "open box" for only $28. The 
>>> company is sending me free concrete mounting hardware too.
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07Q5HZ21W
>>>
>>> Pat in DC 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 5:57:10 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>>>
 Here's the setup in our garage. The rack for the single bikes is welded 
 up from 40mm square steel tube and bolted to the wall. In our previous 
 house all the bikes hung from the ceiling, but my wife complained because 
 she couldn't get her bikes up onto the hooks when they were that high, so 
 I 
 made the rack here so the single bikes just clear the floor when hung up. 
 The tandems have to hang from the ceiling because of their length.

 The hooks I got from the local hardware store. I improved the padding 
 on them by cutting short lengths of garden hose, and softening the hose in 
 hot water so that I could easily get it over the bend in the end of the 
 hooks.
 [image: bikerack2.jpg]

 Nick

>>>

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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Garth]

Yes it's likely the sp clamp is for the protos only as they do odd things 
with protos sometimes. The canti was mentioned in the Dec 10 blahg. Here it 
is in all it's brevity.  

*Here are some things we're working on. You may be familiar with some, but 
probably not all:*

*4. Two V-brakes. We need only one, but in the interest of more than one 
iron in the fire, we're working on two, with two different people and 
places. Discs are taking over, but we're all firm V-brake fans, except for 
Mark, who can't give up his cantilevers for his personal bikes, but admits 
that V-brakes are really good.*

*4. One cantilever brake. Started it along time ago. It's easy enough to 
keep going. I wish we had control over it, but we don*'t.


On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 2:07:37 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I have not heard anyone from Riv say the front-facing clamp bolt is to 
> discourage cantis. I'm also unaware of a Riv canti being worked on although 
> it's possible I've forgotten, they're planning a v-brake. 
>
> One nice thing about this positioning is the bolt is easier to get to with 
> a saddlebag in place. I'm a notorious saddle height fiddler and am 
> constantly fighting bags to squeeze my wrench in there. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it should 
>>> be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, admittedly. Did 
>>> anyone else look at the images and wonder what possessed Riv to do such 
>>> wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose with the Rosco models? 
>>> They are always such careful color choosers but this time they really went 
>>> for it. Fun!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should 
 ride."  To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.

 On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:

> [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
> Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 
>
> On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint and 
>> you're there. I dig it! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom bike and 
>>> both look excellent!
>>> Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

"any tig-welded Rivendell without a liftatube is an opportunity lost" 
Well said Bill. 
-Kai (hoarder of Massive Mountain Mixtes)


On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 12:33:13 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Garth said: " Dictates in the name "saving people/things from themselves" 
> are empty promises"
>
> Be that as it may, I'm not convinced that a backwards seat clamp on a 
> prototype bicycle frame that is currently not available for purchase 
> qualifies as a "dictate".  But that's just me.  I don't even know whether 
> the production version of that frameset will have a reversed seat clamp.  
>
> It is a fact that the investment-cast R05C0 8U883 seat clamp is 
> reversible.  It being reversible, the motivation I ascribe to Rivendell is 
> "hey, it's reversible, lets try it reversed on these prototypes"  
>
> For fun, here is a link to a flickr photo of my R05C0 8U883 "medium 
> mountain mixte*" showing that same seat clamp in the normal direction, 
> allowing me to run cantilever brakes.  
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/36650803254
>
> For what it's worth, any tig-welded Rivendell without a liftatube is an 
> opportunity lost.  I'd buy back my former "medium mountain mixte" for the 
> price I sold it.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> *I know that it was not really a mixte.  I know that inaccurately 
> referring to it as a mixte makes some people crazy.  In the arm wrestling 
> match between "alliteration" and "placating the handwringers", I usually 
> choose alliteration.  
>
> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:51:05 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>
>> Eric, Rivendell as well as countless buyers have assembled even lower TT 
>> Clem-L's, and similar TT height Gus/Susie frames with canti brakes.
>>
>> Dictates in the name "saving people/things from themselves" are empty 
>> promises as they have no intention of saving anyone/anything except the 
>> dictates themselves from being challenged on their validity. 
>>
>> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:37:05 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> It would be very difficult to run a rear canti on this type of frame.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 6:22 AM Garth  wrote:
>>>
 Regarding the backwards SP clamp and the exclusion of brake bridge 
 cable stops, considering Riv is invested in their own brand of canti brake 
 as well as v-brake it's self-defeating to exclude one brake type or the 
 other from any of their frames.



 On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:40:40 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> The seatpost clamp on the front is Grant's way of encouraging you to 
> use V-brakes instead of cantilevers.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 9:28:56 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I'm intrigued by that seatpost clamp being on the front side.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 9:20:16 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I am seriously considering picking one of these up when available. I 
>>> was planning on maybe getting a Clem but am now leaning this way if I 
>>> can 
>>> make it happen.
>>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:52:48 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 [image: 60026667-BBE4-4894-9B68-7351C00A6B5B.jpeg][image: 
 5B4687A4-36C7-4E75-B039-924523758E08.gif]More overlay fun with a 
 platypus and Rosco Platy. 
 When can I have a Rosco Plat and a Charles H Gallop (to potentially 
 replace my Cheviot and Sam Hillborne and even the Rosco Baby)? Looking 
 forward to v-brakes (and eventually Silver v-brakes) for sure. 

 That said, took the Cheviot on a wonderful ride today … still 
 thinking of having v-brake posts brazed on.


 On Friday, 31 December 2021 at 20:06:16 UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
 Ding! wrote:

> I'm so excited for the people who will get one. I can never decide 
> which is more comfortable and wonderful - Platypus or Clem? And now 
> the two 
> of them went and got married and maybe this is the perfect bike. How 
> many 
> Rosco Plats are there? Maybe 50? I wonder if a production run could 
> ever 
> happen if the demand is there...
>
> It is more fun to think of Rosco Plats than to be online shopping 
> for CURTAINS. Yuck. Back to it. Happy New Year, Rivsters. May 2022 be 
> plumb 
> full of Platypuses and Rosco Plats.
>
> Leah
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 10:47:05 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella 
> wrote:
>
>> If anyone was having trouble deciding between a Clem and a 
>> Platypus, this is your bike. 
>> 55mm tires plus fenders, these are going to be super.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I love the red one. 

Re: [RBW] ISO Frame Saver.

[Garth]

It's odd that the original post was removed shortly after it was posted. I 
tried to reply but it was gone. 

I'll use Boeshield spray for my next frame. 

FWIW, Progold has a "Steel Frame Protector" spray of their own. It's 
shipable from a few online retailers. 

Frame Saver was bought by Problem Solvers, aka QBP. 

https://www.bicycleretailer.com/product-tech/2019/08/15/frame-saver-becomes-problem-solvers-product-qbp

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 3:17:16 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> For a long time the original stuff was from Peter Weigle, I thought. 
> Perhaps it still is. Are Riv bikes not E.D. coated?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Apparently problem solver purchased frame saver, as far as I can tell 
> there are no online retailers selling an aerosol can of it,  perhaps it 
> can't be shipped because it's an aerosol can under pressure?  Anyone know 
> how I can get my hands on some? Maybe a retailer in the Los Angeles area? 
> For obvious reasons most bike stores are closed today through January 3rd.
>
> Happy New year!!
>
> Hugh
>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Jason Fuller]

It looks so plainly utilitarian, and basically a run-of-the-mill bike to 
the untrained eye, but yet the details and the geometry are anything but 
ordinary to the trained eye - I love that about it. I can't justify one at 
the moment but it's fun to think about as a daily run-about bike! 

On Sunday, 2 January 2022 at 11:07:37 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I have not heard anyone from Riv say the front-facing clamp bolt is to 
> discourage cantis. I'm also unaware of a Riv canti being worked on although 
> it's possible I've forgotten, they're planning a v-brake. 
>
> One nice thing about this positioning is the bolt is easier to get to with 
> a saddlebag in place. I'm a notorious saddle height fiddler and am 
> constantly fighting bags to squeeze my wrench in there. 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it should 
>>> be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, admittedly. Did 
>>> anyone else look at the images and wonder what possessed Riv to do such 
>>> wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose with the Rosco models? 
>>> They are always such careful color choosers but this time they really went 
>>> for it. Fun!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should 
 ride."  To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.

 On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:

> [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
> Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 
>
> On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint and 
>> you're there. I dig it! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom bike and 
>>> both look excellent!
>>> Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Eric Floden]

My 60cm Bomba has 700's...

EricF
Vancouver

On Sun, 2 Jan 2022 at 12:30, Jason Fuller  wrote:

>
>
> Jay - this frame, and most Bombadils, is 650B.  I used to believe they all
> were 650, but iirc some of the biggest sizes are 700c. Good eye on the
> tires - can't wait to ride them!  I bought them in September but haven't
> put a mile on them yet.
>
> w-owners-bunch/CAGBpHnfsgbM10M9j_Xt0M57-NpotUhuquBGfHfaMkZ6Qyxxkrg%40mail.gmail.com
> 
> .
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2011 A. Homer Hilsen 61cm Custom Color

[Jason Fuller]

Just here to say this bike is perfect, WOW.  GLWS 

On Sunday, 2 January 2022 at 03:09:40 UTC-8 brendonoid wrote:

> I am likewise pretty amazed this hasn't sold yet. I have been tempted to 
> get a Homer the same vintage as mine 2cm smaller to run drop bars on. Could 
> have been a very fun addition to my stable but alas I just threw the dough 
> at a Susie.
>
> GLWS
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Jason Fuller]

Thanks Juan! It's a 52cm, which came with dual TT's only for the first
batch or two from my understanding.

Erik, Paul, Ryan, Joe - appreciated! I tend to agree :D

Jay - this frame, and most Bombadils, is 650B.  I used to believe they all
were 650, but iirc some of the biggest sizes are 700c. Good eye on the
tires - can't wait to ride them!  I bought them in September but haven't
put a mile on them yet.



On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 12:18 PM Juan Medina  wrote:

> That;s one gorgeous bike! What’s the frame size?
>
> JM
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 1, 2022, at 8:30 AM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Very nice Jason! That model Rivendell is becoming the "classic". Fully
> lugged, details, "standard" chain stays, etc. To boot, it's bombproof and
> has room for wide tires.
>
> Of course, "classic" is a moving target. Expectations for a frame change
> over time and parts for older bikes get harder to obtain, pushing some
> older "classics" into the realm of "vintage". But unlike carbon, it takes
> decades for that transition.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Fri, Dec 31, 2021 8:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
>
> That is a stunning paint job, Jason.  It looks beautiful.  Can't wait to
> see ride reports once its all built up!
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> It's not quite done, so I should really wait until it is... but it might
> be a couple weeks for the last parts to show up and I am not that patient.
>
> Here's the same old Bombadil with a fresh coat and assortment of new
> parts. Feels like new bike day, even though it's technically not!  Bars
> will be wrapped with light grey padded Newbaums. Dual grey Riv fender
> flaps, and the rear Motolite are now installed (not pictured).  It was
> painted by Chris Dekerf, two coats of clearcoat, full lug detailing,
> addition of Rene Herse tail light. It was not cheaper than what Joe Bell
> would have charged, and it's also up to Joe's level of quality.
>
> 2022 is going to be a heck of a year for this Bombadil, if all goes
> according to plan!
>
> [image: PXL_20211231_032223436.jpg]
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 17:04:49 UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
> Sorry to hear about the fender mishap.
>
> I'm running 2.1 knobbies under Tanaka 68mm fenders with the PDW safety
> tabs. I'm curious if anyone's had incidents with the safety tab setup? I
> caught a bit of stuff in the front wheel a few weeks ago and the tabs
> released, the wheel didn't lock, and I was fine. That made me feel better,
> but I'm still totally ready to abandon the combination.
>
> I tried no fenders for a bit but just couldn't deal with the amount of
> mess after every ride.
>
> Keeping the front wheel off the ground is definitely an elegant solution.
>
> Adam
>
> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:20:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> Jason,
>
> Sorry about your fender incident. As someone else said, those PDW Safety
> Tabs will help you regain your confidence. I've been using them for about 6
> years. Though I haven't gotten a stick or rock caught while riding, I once
> dropped the front of the bike onto the rear of the front fender with the
> wheel removed while loading it into the van.
>
> The safety tab worked just as it should and I was able to pop it back into
> place, no harm done.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Fuller 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:56 am
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
>
> ...and here's some photos from the ride that ultimately ended in fender
> ruinage and full body aches.
>
> On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 22:36:45 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Ever since I had the stick wedged in the front fender situation, which
> tossed me over the bars and made me realize I'm not as young as I once was,
> I haven't been willing to let the front wheel touch the ground.  I figure
> this avoids the problem entirely.
>
> (No new front fender yet - maybe this'll be a fenderless bike for a bit?
> Unclear. One thing's for sure: I keep riding it)
>
> [image: signal-2021-08-27-124701.jpg]
>
> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 22:17:49 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> Cheers Eric!  In the spirit, here are a few photos from this past Sunday's
> trip up the Seymour valley.  I have a few new parts collected to install on
> the Bombadil, and an Albatross bar in the mail which I think will do the
> trick - kind of wish I bought both it and the Choco just to try, but alas,
> I have too many handlebars as it is.  Going to swap off the knobby
> Ultradynamico for the slicker Cava's as well
>
>
>
> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 19:25:48 UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
>
> Jason,
>
> you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike
> weekly, pre-pandemic. But I have 

[RBW] Re: Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[alex g]

I use the old trek/bontrager version of the Saris cycle glide system ( 
 https://www.saris.com/product/cycleglidestorage-system  ) I like it 
because you can "compact" your bikes together regardless of handlebar 
width. Each rack will hold 4 bikes or up to 8 in s pinch (holding only by 
one wheel). cfdt77p
Alex in WI

On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 8:04:32 AM UTC-6 pbsm...@gmail.com wrote:

> I just bought two of these off Amazon "open box" for only $28. The company 
> is sending me free concrete mounting hardware too.
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07Q5HZ21W
>
> Pat in DC 
>
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 5:57:10 AM UTC-5 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> Here's the setup in our garage. The rack for the single bikes is welded 
>> up from 40mm square steel tube and bolted to the wall. In our previous 
>> house all the bikes hung from the ceiling, but my wife complained because 
>> she couldn't get her bikes up onto the hooks when they were that high, so I 
>> made the rack here so the single bikes just clear the floor when hung up. 
>> The tandems have to hang from the ceiling because of their length.
>>
>> The hooks I got from the local hardware store. I improved the padding on 
>> them by cutting short lengths of garden hose, and softening the hose in hot 
>> water so that I could easily get it over the bend in the end of the hooks.
>> [image: bikerack2.jpg]
>>
>> Nick
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: Swift saddlebag, Sugino cranks, Dia Compe GC610 centerpulls, various Sidepulls

[Jobbing Drummer]

Couple things to move from my parts bin to yours. Some new, some used. 
Prices are firm, but let me know if something seems wrong.

Prices are net to me via PP. I’ll ship as economically as possible via 
USPS. Expect somewhere between 5-20 depending on size/weight/distance from 
Ulster County, NY.

HNY, y’all.

BRAKES (all pairs)

-Dia-Compe GC610 Grande Compe Center Pull 47-61mm reach. NIB $120

-Tektro 539 sidepulls. Recessed nut. No pads. Front has seen a short bit of 
service. Rear has not. $40

-Shimano Ultegra sidepulls. $30


CRANKS

NOS Sugino RD2 track crankset. 170mm, 130bcd, with single 46t 
chainring $150

Used Sugino XD2 crank arms. 175mm, 110/74bcd. Comes with chainring 
bolts/nuts for the double bit. $45


Cork grips - punched/grooved for bar-end shifters. $35

Riv Silver1 shift levers. (Pair) Just the levers & internals. No mounts. 
Well used as pictured.

Note that the edge of one has been filed smooth from a gouge-y spot and 
that its all important plastic washer has chipped, but the important part 
is intact, still fits, AND works!

Replacement washer is available from riv.  $35

-Swift Industries Zeitgeist Saddle bag. (NOS 2020) Black. $160 
https://www.rei.com/product/161039/swift-industries-zeitgeist-saddle-bag

2-packs of cheap baselayers. “32 degrees” $15 each

“Men’s M” pant

“Men’s M” long sleeve top

“Women’s L” pant

“Women’s L” long sleeve scoop neck

Photos are 
HERE: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-E3ixREXJLbCRrangl8OZrkYeSGjrqCl

Reply OFFlist to this email address, please.


Best,

JD

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[RBW] Re: FS/FT: Large Rivendell Sackville SaddleSack

[reca...@gmail.com]

Still available and lowering the price to $160+shipping.


On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 12:34:10 PM UTC-5 reca...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> I have an essentially new large blue SaddleSack. This is the model before 
> the Baggabong bag. I used it once for a very short ride and realized I 
> would need a rack for heavier loads and didn't want to bother. Like new. 
> $170+Ship (probably around $20). I am pretty open regarding trades so I 
> will consider most things. Thanks!
>
> More photos here: https://recarcar.tumblr.com/post/670843231295225856/bags
>
> Carlos
> Brooklyn
>

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Re: [RBW] Bike storage solutions: 5 or 6 bikes, fenders

[abraham nussbaum]

+1 for the peak racks. I use it for fendered bikes and it's terrific.

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 7:55:19 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:

> Yes, of course, the rear fender is a concern. For my part, when my bike is 
> fendered I do have to do a final grab and lift at the seat post. 
>
> Really though, the only bikes I've stored this way are old mountain bikes 
> I keep around for sentimental reasons. Until recently I've only had one 
> Riv, and it never sits around long enough to warrant storage on a rack. 
>
> Cheers, John
>
>
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 10:41:29 AM UTC+9 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> John,
>>
>> How do you deal with the rear fender? My concern with the vertical 
>> hanging business is she'll be dragging the fender across the floor as she's 
>> trying to get the front wheel up on that hook. This isn't an issue for the 
>> average fenderless 16 lbs. carbon road bike, but her Rivs are fully loaded 
>> and fendered. She's not gonna just toss 'em up there! 
>>
>> Joe Bernard
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 5:12:10 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Leah,
>>>
>>> Happy New Year! An 8ft 2x4 bolted to the studs in your garage wall with 
>>> utility 
>>> hooks 
>>> 
>>>  works 
>>> great. Mine is just high enough so the tires are about an inch off the 
>>> floor so you don't have to lift very high. I just roll the tire up the wall 
>>> and hook it in. Pretty easy and very inexpesive.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 7:41:56 AM UTC+9 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Leah – I realize you said you'd like the bikes up off the floor 
 *but* consider the Peak Racks. This is a bike parking solution that 
 leaves the bikes on the ground. It's easy to adapt and space the bikes as 
 you like to accommodate your fenders and wide bars. Rivendell uses these 
 in 
 the shop. I'd totally be in for these racks if I had room in my shed, but 
 I 
 don't. Also, it's a California-based company and these are MUSA!

 Me and my back do not like hanging, balancing and hooking steel bikes. 
 Especially tricky with fenders. With on the ground storage like this you 
 can just wheel 'em in and out. With a three-car garage there might be a 
 way 
 to make it all fit and leave things neat and tidy. The bikes are important 
 and I'd say they deserve their own dedicated bay :)  Roll that door up and 
 roll the bikes out. 

 https://peakracks.com/byo/#order-now

 On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 5:15:01 PM UTC-5 maxcr wrote:

> [image: 069A7403-7E88-4530-A7F8-0293ACD1CCA2.jpeg]
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:09:59 PM UTC+1 maxcr wrote:
>
>> I used 4 of these, not cheap but if you have a wall you can drill on, 
>> they’re great: 
>>  https://cyclesafe.com/bike-parking/bike-racks/fender-rack/
>> Max
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:00:57 PM UTC+1 Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>>> I bought this overhead storage rack from Costco, and it included 
>>> hooks that hang off the bottom of it to hold bikes. It works pretty 
>>> well, 
>>> but at 12 bikes, even our big garage can still get crowded. 
>>>
>>> My 13 year old daughter (who I have to say is quite strong) is able 
>>> to get her fendered Trek up on a hook. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 [image: F4411C72-D9A5-4E1B-BADC-E7EDEF78AC81.jpeg]Hi Friends. I 
 searched some other threads to find this answer but didn’t really find 
 what 
 I was looking for, and, maybe there have been some updated solutions, 
 so, a 
 new thread.

 We have a new home and a 3 car, extra deep garage. The bikes are 
 just parked willy-nilly and I dislike it. It looks messy and they are 
 bound 
 to be knocked over. I have my pair of Rivs, which will soon be a trio, 
 and 
 my boys’ two Clems. My bikes are all fendered. Between the wide bars, 
 heavy 
 frames, and fenders, storage options are few. I’d like to get the bike 
 up 
 off of the floor and found this one option on Amazon (see photo). But 
 I 
 don’t know if the rear fender will scrape the floor as I tip up the 
 bike, 
 OR if I can lift the bikes vertically to hang them. It seems it would 
 be 
 awkward. (Note: I would buy more than one of these because we would 
 require 
 more space between bikes with those Bosco and Billie Bars.)

 What system do you use to park your fendered Rivs?

 Thanks!
 Leah 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)

[Juan Medina]

That;s one gorgeous bike! What’s the frame size? 

JM

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> On Jan 1, 2022, at 8:30 AM, 'Paul Germain' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Very nice Jason! That model Rivendell is becoming the "classic". Fully 
> lugged, details, "standard" chain stays, etc. To boot, it's bombproof and has 
> room for wide tires. 
> 
> Of course, "classic" is a moving target. Expectations for a frame change over 
> time and parts for older bikes get harder to obtain, pushing some older 
> "classics" into the realm of "vintage". But unlike carbon, it takes decades 
> for that transition.
> 
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Erik 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Fri, Dec 31, 2021 8:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
> 
> That is a stunning paint job, Jason.  It looks beautiful.  Can't wait to see 
> ride reports once its all built up!
> 
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 3:48:11 PM UTC-8 Jason Fuller wrote:
> It's not quite done, so I should really wait until it is... but it might be a 
> couple weeks for the last parts to show up and I am not that patient. 
> 
> Here's the same old Bombadil with a fresh coat and assortment of new parts. 
> Feels like new bike day, even though it's technically not!  Bars will be 
> wrapped with light grey padded Newbaums. Dual grey Riv fender flaps, and the 
> rear Motolite are now installed (not pictured).  It was painted by Chris 
> Dekerf, two coats of clearcoat, full lug detailing, addition of Rene Herse 
> tail light. It was not cheaper than what Joe Bell would have charged, and 
> it's also up to Joe's level of quality. 
> 
> 2022 is going to be a heck of a year for this Bombadil, if all goes according 
> to plan! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, 28 August 2021 at 17:04:49 UTC-7 Adam wrote:
> Sorry to hear about the fender mishap.
> 
> I'm running 2.1 knobbies under Tanaka 68mm fenders with the PDW safety tabs. 
> I'm curious if anyone's had incidents with the safety tab setup? I caught a 
> bit of stuff in the front wheel a few weeks ago and the tabs released, the 
> wheel didn't lock, and I was fine. That made me feel better, but I'm still 
> totally ready to abandon the combination.
> 
> I tried no fenders for a bit but just couldn't deal with the amount of mess 
> after every ride.
> 
> Keeping the front wheel off the ground is definitely an elegant solution.
> 
> Adam
> 
> On Saturday, August 28, 2021 at 3:20:09 PM UTC-5 Bikie#4646 wrote:
> Jason,
> 
> Sorry about your fender incident. As someone else said, those PDW Safety Tabs 
> will help you regain your confidence. I've been using them for about 6 years. 
> Though I haven't gotten a stick or rock caught while riding, I once dropped 
> the front of the bike onto the rear of the front fender with the wheel 
> removed while loading it into the van. 
> 
> The safety tab worked just as it should and I was able to pop it back into 
> place, no harm done.
> 
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Fuller 
> To: RBW Owners Bunch 
> Sent: Sat, Aug 28, 2021 1:56 am
> Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Bombadil on its Archetypal Route (loads of photos)
> 
> ...and here's some photos from the ride that ultimately ended in fender 
> ruinage and full body aches. 
> 
> On Friday, 27 August 2021 at 22:36:45 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
> Ever since I had the stick wedged in the front fender situation, which tossed 
> me over the bars and made me realize I'm not as young as I once was, I 
> haven't been willing to let the front wheel touch the ground.  I figure this 
> avoids the problem entirely.  
> 
> (No new front fender yet - maybe this'll be a fenderless bike for a bit?  
> Unclear. One thing's for sure: I keep riding it)
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, 13 July 2021 at 22:17:49 UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:
> Cheers Eric!  In the spirit, here are a few photos from this past Sunday's 
> trip up the Seymour valley.  I have a few new parts collected to install on 
> the Bombadil, and an Albatross bar in the mail which I think will do the 
> trick - kind of wish I bought both it and the Choco just to try, but alas, I 
> have too many handlebars as it is.  Going to swap off the knobby 
> Ultradynamico for the slicker Cava's as well
> 
> 
> 
> On Saturday, 26 June 2021 at 19:25:48 UTC-7 ericf3 wrote:
> Jason,
> 
> you inspire me (I hope) --I used to be on the north shore on a bike weekly, 
> pre-pandemic. But I have only biked past Burrard Inlet a couple of times 
> since then. I really 
> hope I can get back into the habit once public health protocols allow it.
> 
> Meanwhile, I am hoping the oppressive heat leaves us soon...ugghh
> 
> EricF
> Vancouver BC
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Re: [RBW] ISO Frame Saver.

[Richard Rose]

For a long time the original stuff was from Peter Weigle, I thought. Perhaps it 
still is. Are Riv bikes not E.D. coated?

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> On Dec 31, 2021, at 5:46 PM, Hugh Smitham  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Apparently problem solver purchased frame saver, as far as I can tell there 
> are no online retailers selling an aerosol can of it,  perhaps it can't be 
> shipped because it's an aerosol can under pressure?  Anyone know how I can 
> get my hands on some? Maybe a retailer in the Los Angeles area? For obvious 
> reasons most bike stores are closed today through January 3rd.
> 
> Happy New year!!
> 
> Hugh
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[RBW] Re: Saddle Recommendation Requested

[alex g]

I have also had luck with selle royal lookin saddles. I have found the 
beauty of selle SMP saddles, expensive but very comfortable for some what 
upright road bike. I would be curious about their less expensive line 
~$75-100. 

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 12:27:02 PM UTC-6 Garth wrote:

> I'm partial towards Selle Royal Lookin saddles myself as I sit back on 
> saddles where it spreads out the pressure from being isolated on inside of 
> the sit bones.   These saddles are also a flat profile, which also assist 
> in that. There isn't just one particular sweet spot, I tend to move around 
> alot on saddles and these are sweet everywhere.   They come in 3 different 
> widths, Athletic,  Moderate and Relaxed.  The Moderate comes in Men's and 
> Women's sizes. I ride a Moderate. I don't subscribe to any sit bone width 
> theories as a comfortable saddle just can't be dumbed down to numbers. 
>
> https://www.selleroyal.com/en/search/lookin?keys=lookin  (I'm referring 
> to the Lookin Moderate, Relaxed and Athletic. Not the 3D Lookins)
>
> Their Royalgel for me is a perfect balance between firmness and 
> pliability, it's Goldilocks, not too firm, not too soft, always  
> just right !  I've tried many padded saddles and no other comes close to 
> these. 
>
> I gave up cycling for some 3 years from sit bone pain after trying a 
> Brooks and buying into that nonsense of "you'll get used to it/break it 
> in/conform". Actually that's a messed up message to send anyone. Sales 
> pitches speak only for themselves to sell the pitch to keep the 
> whole charade going by repetition. Either a saddle works NOW-AS-IS or it 
> doesn't. I'd make a terrible salesperson hah ! 
>
> Surely, take this with a grain of salt though as I have no idea what could 
> work for anyone else. I gave up cycling for some 3 years from sit bone pain 
> after trying a Brooks and buying into that nonsense of "you'll get used to 
> it/break it in/conform". Actually that's a messed up message for anyone to 
> adopt. Sales pitches speak only for themselves to sell the pitch to 
> keep the whole charade going by repetition. Either a saddle works NOW-AS-IS 
> or it doesn't. I'd make a terrible salesperson hah ! 
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 10:41:06 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> Over the past several weeks I've been overhauling a bike that belongs to 
>> a lady who can't afford much.  It's a Huffy Broadmoor so nothing fancy. 
>>  Anyway, I've been talking to her about changing saddles.  This bike has a 
>> step-through frame pretty much on the order of some of the Riv bikes like 
>> the Platy and it is equipped with run-of-the-mill bars, which means that 
>> she's riding in an upright position.  So she has one of those thick, 
>> heavily padded, wide, wide saddles that looks like someone cut it out of a 
>> mattress.  I have convinced her to look for something more suitable for 
>> efficient pedaling (she's apparently been riding around in the highest gear 
>> - 80 inch - at what must be a very low cadence).
>>
>> So...what are some of you who ride Riv bikes that have been introduced in 
>> recent years that encourage an upright riding style using for a saddle? 
>>  Seems like some of the pics I've seen on this blog show bikes equipped 
>> with narrower leather models.  Not sure if she'll be amenable to those, but 
>> any input is welcome.  I've also talked to her about "sits" bone width and 
>> measurements she's taken seem to indicate that their around the 110-115mm 
>> range.
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: VO crankset + BB, DT shifters, XTR derailleur

[alex g]

Most items shipped. 
XTR rear derailleur is the only thing left. 

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 4:43:18 PM UTC-6 Paul Brodek wrote:

> Just a hopefully helpful heads-up on the 7800 D-A calipers, I've found 
> them to have some of the best under-caliper clearance for 47-49mm max 
> dual-pivot calipers. Useful if, like me, you're forever trying to squeeze 
> as fat a tire as possible under 49mm-max dual-pivots.
>
> And that's also a killer price if the calipers are in nice condition.
>
> Paul Brodek
> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>
> On Wednesday, December 29, 2021 at 12:33:30 PM UTC-5 alex g wrote:
>
>> Funding the next bike 
>> XTR rear derailleur 972 9 speed - $125
>> Dura ace 7800 brakes - $65
>> Velo Orange grand cru crankset 50.4 bcd 170mm, with sealed BB BSA 68mm - 
>> $160
>> Dura ace 9 speed down tube shifters (masking tape in picture just to keep 
>> things together and not scratched) - $85
>>
>> I also have XTR 9 speed cassette & simplex front derailleur to make a 
>> near complete group. 
>>
>> Prices are net to me, shipping is free if multiple items are purchased. 
>>
>> Alex in SE Wisconsin
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Eric Marth]

Clem L frameset, 64cm. $1,150. Anandale, Virginia. No relation to seller. 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/280020787439844/?ref=search_code=marketplace_search_story_type=post

On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 5:40:40 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> A. Homer Hilsen
> 61cm
> $2900
>
> https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/bik/d/berwyn-2011-homer-hilsen-61cm-custom/7426485750.html
>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Joe Bernard]

I have not heard anyone from Riv say the front-facing clamp bolt is to 
discourage cantis. I'm also unaware of a Riv canti being worked on although 
it's possible I've forgotten, they're planning a v-brake. 

One nice thing about this positioning is the bolt is easier to get to with 
a saddlebag in place. I'm a notorious saddle height fiddler and am 
constantly fighting bags to squeeze my wrench in there. 

Joe Bernard

On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 
>
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it should 
>> be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, admittedly. Did 
>> anyone else look at the images and wonder what possessed Riv to do such 
>> wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose with the Rosco models? 
>> They are always such careful color choosers but this time they really went 
>> for it. Fun!
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should ride."  
>>> To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
 Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 

 On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint and 
> you're there. I dig it! 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom bike and 
>> both look excellent!
>> Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Bill Lindsay]

Garth said: " Dictates in the name "saving people/things from themselves" 
are empty promises"

Be that as it may, I'm not convinced that a backwards seat clamp on a 
prototype bicycle frame that is currently not available for purchase 
qualifies as a "dictate".  But that's just me.  I don't even know whether 
the production version of that frameset will have a reversed seat clamp.  

It is a fact that the investment-cast R05C0 8U883 seat clamp is 
reversible.  It being reversible, the motivation I ascribe to Rivendell is 
"hey, it's reversible, lets try it reversed on these prototypes"  

For fun, here is a link to a flickr photo of my R05C0 8U883 "medium 
mountain mixte*" showing that same seat clamp in the normal direction, 
allowing me to run cantilever brakes.  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/36650803254

For what it's worth, any tig-welded Rivendell without a liftatube is an 
opportunity lost.  I'd buy back my former "medium mountain mixte" for the 
price I sold it.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

*I know that it was not really a mixte.  I know that inaccurately referring 
to it as a mixte makes some people crazy.  In the arm wrestling match 
between "alliteration" and "placating the handwringers", I usually choose 
alliteration.  

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:51:05 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:

> Eric, Rivendell as well as countless buyers have assembled even lower TT 
> Clem-L's, and similar TT height Gus/Susie frames with canti brakes.
>
> Dictates in the name "saving people/things from themselves" are empty 
> promises as they have no intention of saving anyone/anything except the 
> dictates themselves from being challenged on their validity. 
>
> On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:37:05 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:
>
>> It would be very difficult to run a rear canti on this type of frame.
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 6:22 AM Garth  wrote:
>>
>>> Regarding the backwards SP clamp and the exclusion of brake bridge cable 
>>> stops, considering Riv is invested in their own brand of canti brake as 
>>> well as v-brake it's self-defeating to exclude one brake type or the other 
>>> from any of their frames.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:40:40 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>>
 The seatpost clamp on the front is Grant's way of encouraging you to 
 use V-brakes instead of cantilevers.

 Laing
 Delray Beach FL


 On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 9:28:56 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I'm intrigued by that seatpost clamp being on the front side.
>
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 9:20:16 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I am seriously considering picking one of these up when available. I 
>> was planning on maybe getting a Clem but am now leaning this way if I 
>> can 
>> make it happen.
>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:52:48 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>>
>>> [image: 60026667-BBE4-4894-9B68-7351C00A6B5B.jpeg][image: 
>>> 5B4687A4-36C7-4E75-B039-924523758E08.gif]More overlay fun with a 
>>> platypus and Rosco Platy. 
>>> When can I have a Rosco Plat and a Charles H Gallop (to potentially 
>>> replace my Cheviot and Sam Hillborne and even the Rosco Baby)? Looking 
>>> forward to v-brakes (and eventually Silver v-brakes) for sure. 
>>>
>>> That said, took the Cheviot on a wonderful ride today … still 
>>> thinking of having v-brake posts brazed on.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, 31 December 2021 at 20:06:16 UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I'm so excited for the people who will get one. I can never decide 
 which is more comfortable and wonderful - Platypus or Clem? And now 
 the two 
 of them went and got married and maybe this is the perfect bike. How 
 many 
 Rosco Plats are there? Maybe 50? I wonder if a production run could 
 ever 
 happen if the demand is there...

 It is more fun to think of Rosco Plats than to be online shopping 
 for CURTAINS. Yuck. Back to it. Happy New Year, Rivsters. May 2022 be 
 plumb 
 full of Platypuses and Rosco Plats.

 Leah

 On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 10:47:05 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:

> If anyone was having trouble deciding between a Clem and a 
> Platypus, this is your bike. 
> 55mm tires plus fenders, these are going to be super.
>
> Ray
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard 
> wrote:
>
>> I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 
>>
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle 
>> Ding Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good 
>>> it should be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget 
>>> version, 

Re: [RBW] Re: Longshot: WTB 60cm Bombadil

[Michael Williams]

Good luck as well Navin.

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> On Jan 2, 2022, at 7:45 AM, Navin Nestle  wrote:
> 
> Best of luck Mike! Been looking for one of these myself. Getting to the point 
> of having a custom made of the geo. 
> 
>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 12:34:24 PM UTC-6 mkernan...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Hello group, this is a super longshot but just wondering if anyone has a 
>> 60cm Bombadil that isn’t getting ridden much. I’d be interested in 
>> purchasing. I don’t think many of these were made but they’ve always been of 
>> interest. Thanks! -Mike 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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[RBW] Re: Longshot: WTB 60cm Bombadil

[Navin Nestle]

Best of luck Mike! Been looking for one of these myself. Getting to the 
point of having a custom made of the geo. 

On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 12:34:24 PM UTC-6 mkernan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hello group, this is a super longshot but just wondering if anyone has a 
> 60cm Bombadil that isn’t getting ridden much. I’d be interested in 
> purchasing. I don’t think many of these were made but they’ve always been 
> of interest. Thanks! -Mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Garth]

Eric, Rivendell as well as countless buyers have assembled even lower TT 
Clem-L's, and similar TT height Gus/Susie frames with canti brakes.

Dictates in the name "saving people/things from themselves" are empty 
promises as they have no intention of saving anyone/anything except the 
dictates themselves from being challenged on their validity. 

On Sunday, January 2, 2022 at 6:37:05 AM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> It would be very difficult to run a rear canti on this type of frame.
>
> On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 6:22 AM Garth  wrote:
>
>> Regarding the backwards SP clamp and the exclusion of brake bridge cable 
>> stops, considering Riv is invested in their own brand of canti brake as 
>> well as v-brake it's self-defeating to exclude one brake type or the other 
>> from any of their frames.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:40:40 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> The seatpost clamp on the front is Grant's way of encouraging you to use 
>>> V-brakes instead of cantilevers.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 9:28:56 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I'm intrigued by that seatpost clamp being on the front side.

 On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 9:20:16 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I am seriously considering picking one of these up when available. I 
> was planning on maybe getting a Clem but am now leaning this way if I can 
> make it happen.
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:52:48 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>
>> [image: 60026667-BBE4-4894-9B68-7351C00A6B5B.jpeg][image: 
>> 5B4687A4-36C7-4E75-B039-924523758E08.gif]More overlay fun with a 
>> platypus and Rosco Platy. 
>> When can I have a Rosco Plat and a Charles H Gallop (to potentially 
>> replace my Cheviot and Sam Hillborne and even the Rosco Baby)? Looking 
>> forward to v-brakes (and eventually Silver v-brakes) for sure. 
>>
>> That said, took the Cheviot on a wonderful ride today … still 
>> thinking of having v-brake posts brazed on.
>>
>>
>> On Friday, 31 December 2021 at 20:06:16 UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>> I'm so excited for the people who will get one. I can never decide 
>>> which is more comfortable and wonderful - Platypus or Clem? And now the 
>>> two 
>>> of them went and got married and maybe this is the perfect bike. How 
>>> many 
>>> Rosco Plats are there? Maybe 50? I wonder if a production run could 
>>> ever 
>>> happen if the demand is there...
>>>
>>> It is more fun to think of Rosco Plats than to be online shopping 
>>> for CURTAINS. Yuck. Back to it. Happy New Year, Rivsters. May 2022 be 
>>> plumb 
>>> full of Platypuses and Rosco Plats.
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 10:47:05 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>>
 If anyone was having trouble deciding between a Clem and a 
 Platypus, this is your bike. 
 55mm tires plus fenders, these are going to be super.

 Ray

 On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 
>
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle 
> Ding Ding! wrote:
>
>> I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it 
>> should be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, 
>> admittedly. Did anyone else look at the images and wonder what 
>> possessed 
>> Riv to do such wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose 
>> with 
>> the Rosco models? They are always such careful color choosers but 
>> this time 
>> they really went for it. Fun!
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should 
>>> ride."  To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
 Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 

 On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard 
 wrote:

> That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint 
> and you're there. I dig it! 
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. 
> wrote:
>
>> To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom 
>> bike and both look excellent!
>> Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Eric Daume]

It would be very difficult to run a rear canti on this type of frame.

On Sun, Jan 2, 2022 at 6:22 AM Garth  wrote:

> Regarding the backwards SP clamp and the exclusion of brake bridge cable
> stops, considering Riv is invested in their own brand of canti brake as
> well as v-brake it's self-defeating to exclude one brake type or the other
> from any of their frames.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:40:40 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>
>> The seatpost clamp on the front is Grant's way of encouraging you to use
>> V-brakes instead of cantilevers.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 9:28:56 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I'm intrigued by that seatpost clamp being on the front side.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 9:20:16 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I am seriously considering picking one of these up when available. I
 was planning on maybe getting a Clem but am now leaning this way if I can
 make it happen.
 On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:52:48 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:

> [image: 60026667-BBE4-4894-9B68-7351C00A6B5B.jpeg][image:
> 5B4687A4-36C7-4E75-B039-924523758E08.gif]More overlay fun with a
> platypus and Rosco Platy.
> When can I have a Rosco Plat and a Charles H Gallop (to potentially
> replace my Cheviot and Sam Hillborne and even the Rosco Baby)? Looking
> forward to v-brakes (and eventually Silver v-brakes) for sure.
>
> That said, took the Cheviot on a wonderful ride today … still thinking
> of having v-brake posts brazed on.
>
>
> On Friday, 31 December 2021 at 20:06:16 UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!
> wrote:
>
>> I'm so excited for the people who will get one. I can never decide
>> which is more comfortable and wonderful - Platypus or Clem? And now the 
>> two
>> of them went and got married and maybe this is the perfect bike. How many
>> Rosco Plats are there? Maybe 50? I wonder if a production run could ever
>> happen if the demand is there...
>>
>> It is more fun to think of Rosco Plats than to be online shopping for
>> CURTAINS. Yuck. Back to it. Happy New Year, Rivsters. May 2022 be plumb
>> full of Platypuses and Rosco Plats.
>>
>> Leah
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 10:47:05 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>>
>>> If anyone was having trouble deciding between a Clem and a Platypus,
>>> this is your bike.
>>> 55mm tires plus fenders, these are going to be super.
>>>
>>> Ray
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs!


 On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding
 Ding! wrote:

> I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it
> should be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version,
> admittedly. Did anyone else look at the images and wonder what 
> possessed
> Riv to do such wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose 
> with
> the Rosco models? They are always such careful color choosers but 
> this time
> they really went for it. Fun!
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should
>> ride."  To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.
>>
>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>>
>>> [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
>>> Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard
>>> wrote:
>>>
 That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint
 and you're there. I dig it!

 Joe Bernard

 On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H.
 wrote:

> To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom
> bike and both look excellent!
> Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]
>
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[RBW] Re: Rosco Platypus = Joe's Custom

[Garth]

Regarding the backwards SP clamp and the exclusion of brake bridge cable 
stops, considering Riv is invested in their own brand of canti brake as 
well as v-brake it's self-defeating to exclude one brake type or the other 
from any of their frames.



On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:40:40 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:

> The seatpost clamp on the front is Grant's way of encouraging you to use 
> V-brakes instead of cantilevers.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
>
> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 9:28:56 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I'm intrigued by that seatpost clamp being on the front side.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 9:20:16 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I am seriously considering picking one of these up when available. I was 
>>> planning on maybe getting a Clem but am now leaning this way if I can make 
>>> it happen.
>>> On Saturday, January 1, 2022 at 2:52:48 AM UTC-5 Pancake wrote:
>>>
 [image: 60026667-BBE4-4894-9B68-7351C00A6B5B.jpeg][image: 
 5B4687A4-36C7-4E75-B039-924523758E08.gif]More overlay fun with a 
 platypus and Rosco Platy. 
 When can I have a Rosco Plat and a Charles H Gallop (to potentially 
 replace my Cheviot and Sam Hillborne and even the Rosco Baby)? Looking 
 forward to v-brakes (and eventually Silver v-brakes) for sure. 

 That said, took the Cheviot on a wonderful ride today … still thinking 
 of having v-brake posts brazed on.


 On Friday, 31 December 2021 at 20:06:16 UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> I'm so excited for the people who will get one. I can never decide 
> which is more comfortable and wonderful - Platypus or Clem? And now the 
> two 
> of them went and got married and maybe this is the perfect bike. How many 
> Rosco Plats are there? Maybe 50? I wonder if a production run could ever 
> happen if the demand is there...
>
> It is more fun to think of Rosco Plats than to be online shopping for 
> CURTAINS. Yuck. Back to it. Happy New Year, Rivsters. May 2022 be plumb 
> full of Platypuses and Rosco Plats.
>
> Leah
>
> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 10:47:05 PM UTC-5 Ray Varella wrote:
>
>> If anyone was having trouble deciding between a Clem and a Platypus, 
>> this is your bike. 
>> 55mm tires plus fenders, these are going to be super.
>>
>> Ray
>>
>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 11:03:20 AM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> I love the red one. The world needs more red Rivs! 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, December 31, 2021 at 6:10:55 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I totally see it - Joe, weren’t you saying “My bike is so good it 
 should be a production bike”? Well, here it is! A budget version, 
 admittedly. Did anyone else look at the images and wonder what 
 possessed 
 Riv to do such wild, fun colors? Maybe they feel they can let loose 
 with 
 the Rosco models? They are always such careful color choosers but this 
 time 
 they really went for it. Fun!

 On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 11:13:39 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

> Funny that people have been saying "that's the way a bike should 
> ride."  To me, that's the way a bike should LOOK.
>
> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 6:31:54 PM UTC-7 Pancake wrote:
>
>> [image: FFE75BBA-C1CD-43D3-A68A-0EE834D94A86.png]
>> Fun with a photo overlay with Joe’s custom. 
>>
>> On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 14:32:27 UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> That's my bike! Stouter tubing, drop the lugs and fancy paint 
>>> and you're there. I dig it! 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>>
>>> On Thursday, December 30, 2021 at 2:02:27 PM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
 To my eye the new Rosco Platypus resembles Joe B.'s custom bike 
 and both look excellent!
 Doug[image: unnamed.jpg]

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 2011 A. Homer Hilsen 61cm Custom Color

[brendonoid]

I am likewise pretty amazed this hasn't sold yet. I have been tempted to 
get a Homer the same vintage as mine 2cm smaller to run drop bars on. Could 
have been a very fun addition to my stable but alas I just threw the dough 
at a Susie.

GLWS

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