Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Navin Nestle]

Why don’t we do a new thread every month? Seems simple enough
On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:24:23 AM UTC-6 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
PA wrote:

> OH wait - I think I get it now. What we need is a way to sort THREADS of a 
> singular topic (like this one) by date posted, and list the most recent one 
> first. I'm stumped on that one. 
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 8:17:51 AM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, 
> Stewartstown PA wrote:
>
>> This group seems to work that way. Not sure if it can be done at the 
>> thread level, or needs an entirely new group to set it up to see last post 
>> first. 
>>
>> BoBish Bikes For Sale 
>>
>> Marty
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 8:13:50 AM UTC-5 eddietheflay wrote:
>>
>>> it's too bad google groups does not have a last in first out function so 
>>> all the new stuff would be at the top.
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 6:36:41 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Speaking of...it's about time for someone to start a new version of 
 this thread. This one is purty dang long. 



 On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 5:04:10 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> "It's a long drive to right field, going deep and this thread is *outta 
> here!*"
>
> I get the rationale behind the one-by drive train and certainly the 
> satisfaction of filling your recycling bin with front derailers. And 
> nothing against 'em! If you get by on a one-by that's all right by me. 
>
> My thinking: "That massive cassette is absurdly big! It's almost like 
> a middle finger to front mechs everywhere! What do people have against 
> front mechs, anyway?"  
>
> Okay, then. I'm heading to Etsy to look for stickers that say COME AND 
> TAKE IT with little front derailer sillhouettes on them. 
>
> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 6:23:06 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Did that, too. Rohloff Speedhub for the win! 
>>
>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 2:16:46 PM UTC-8 campyo...@me.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Better still, switch to an IGH. No front *or* rear derailleur!
>>>
>>> --Eric Norris
>>> campyo...@me.com
>>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>>
>>> On Feb 25, 2022, at 11:48 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>>
>>> "I just don't understand what people have against front mechs."
>>>
>>> A dropped chain if you're lucky, a chain jammed between the 
>>> chainring and chainstay if you're not. Plus eliminating it gets rid of 
>>> the 
>>> need to trim, a thing that always annoyed me. My Riv Custom is 1x, no 
>>> more 
>>> front derailers for me. 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 10:54:28 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I just don't understand what people have against front mechs

 On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 1:15:09 PM UTC-5 samwe...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> holy mackerel, get a load of that cassette!
>
> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 10:27:24 AM UTC-6 Matthew Williams 
> wrote:
>
>> Bleriot
>> 59cm
>> $2500
>> San Francisco, CA
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-bleriot-59/7450454742.html
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS(Bay Area): 58? Quickbeam

[diekaiser]

Added more photos to the gallery above. After cleaning it up, there's more 
nicks and scratches than I remember. Let's say $1200 unless the original 
price wasn't a good starting point to begin with.

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 4:20:48 PM UTC-8 diekaiser wrote:

> Hey all. With regret, I'm selling my Quickbeam. Unfortunately living in a 
> studio doesn't accommodate owning 4+ bikes and the Quickbeam didn't make 
> the cut. I'm heading up to SF on March 5th for a birthday roadtrip to 
> Oregon and will be there for the weekend if you would like to check it out.
>
>  I was having a hard time figuring out which size model it is from the Riv 
> catalogs but it has a 57cm top tube and a 56cm seat tube (I measured center 
> to center) which I believe puts it at the 58cm model. 
>
> Sale includes Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket, seat post, and wheel 
> set. Unfortunately, I don't have a spare set of brakes as they are moving 
> to a different bike along with the crankset. I figured the cockpit would be 
> purely preferential. With that said, I have a selection of nitto bars if 
> someone would like to inquire. 
>
> I'd say the condition is great as in there are no dents, large scratches, 
> etc but the decals are a bit scratched up from locking etc. The only other 
> thing that I didn't know about when I bought it was that the front-left 
> fender eyelet may be stripped. I'll investigate more closely soon but just 
> wanted to mention it.
>
> *Details*
> Tange Levin headset
> Shimano BB (I don't remember the exact width but I believe it is the one 
> that came stock)
> Nitto 83 seat post
> 36h Dura-Ace 7600 track hubs (fixed/fixed)
> White Industries 19t freewheel
> 36h Velocity Atlas rims (non-machined)
> 700x38 Panaracer Gravelking EXTs (if you would like them).
>
> $1300, but if that doesn't sound reasonable I'm more than happy to chat 
> about it.
>
> Here are some photos of the different iterations in which it has been set 
> up 
> .
>
> I'll add some more detail photos to the same link shortly.
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: SimpleOne 58cm

[Ryan]

Not my size and too many bikes including a 70's SS PX-10 with moustache 
bars...and the non-trials WI freewheel on 36-hole late 70's Campy Record 
hubs, which I love, ratty as it is.

But...what a sweet bike! Love the build; you sure put a lot of thought into 
it. I sense a bit of seller's remorse. Hope it finds a good home...it is a 
beauty!

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 2:32:59 PM UTC-6 J Schwartz wrote:

> This one hurts.  I know I'm gonna regret selling this bike...but I'm not 
> riding it too much lately and just converted my Hillborne to a 2 speed with 
> a Paul Melvin...and need to continue to shed a few bikes.
> I bought this as a frameset from Rivendell when they were released, back 
> in 2012 or so.
> I recently had the bike repainted by Bilenky .  They also did a small dent 
> repair in the downtube.
> They repainted the bike the same slimy green but with a cream head tube. 
>  They also did all the little windows and fork wings in cream.
> It's a 58cm and a special bike.  It's been set up as a kind of trail 
> scorcher.  I've ridden it a lot on the rail trails here in the Hudson 
> Valley.  It's got a 6 tooth spread on the crank chainrings and 700x43cm 
> Bruce Gordon tires,   Also a White Industries 20T green freewheel.
> I've mostly ridden it in the big (middle) chainring and really have only 
> manually shifted it for some long monster climbs, on pavement.  Wheels are 
> Synergy 32h laced to high polish hi-flange Paul hubs.  I recently changed 
> the hubs from quick release to the fancy hex nuts and washers and keep 2 
> hex wrenches attached to the seat stays with super magnets for fast rear 
> axle adjustments on the road.
> While the paint is relatively new and it's not had a lot of use since 
> being repainted, there are a few chips here and there.  The only one that 
> is of note is a scrape on the bottom of the downtube (facing the road, so 
> you can't see it) that happened when I dropped a pedal wrench when 
> attaching pedals.
> Other than that, on the rack braze-ons, there's a little paint 
> scuffingand the rear dropouts of course. **Note, in the photo below , 
> the rear dropouts looked more scuffed than they arethat's actually 
> white grease that's showing up in the photo *
>
> This bike is so good.  I had an orange Quickbeam in the same size (58) 
> ..they are essentially identical frames...but the SimpleOne is better.
> The drivetrain on this bike is great.  It engages instantly ...not sure if 
> that's due to the heavier duty White Industries green "trials 
> " freewheel (more 
> engagement points than the standard W.I. freewheels)...but it just clicks 
> right it and feels like a single speed should.  Pedaling in reverse leads 
> to no chain suck or chain slap or whatever that's called.  
> The freewheel is 20t.  That may sound high, but it worked very well for my 
> needs which included climbing on paths.  The front chainrings are 38 and 32 
> (I believe).
> Bars are Chocos upside down on a 10cm Tallux...with ESI grips and 
> shellacked Newbaums on the curves.
>
> Parts list below:
>
> Rivendell SimpleOne 
>
> Size 58cm 
>
> *NO SADDLE OR PEDALS*
>
> Recently repainted by Bilenky (original slimy green but with cream 
> headtube)
>
> ·  Stock Tange headset
>
> ·  Stock Tange 107mm bottom bracket 
>
> ·  Stock Taiwanese seatpost (27.2mm)
>
> ·  Nitto Tallux - 10cm , 26.0
>
> ·  Nitto Riv Choco bars (with Nitto 26.0 to 25.4 shim)
>
> ·  Newbaums green/blue with amber shellac & twined
>
> ·  ESG chunky silicon grips in Grey
>
> ·  Origin8 duo-trigger , 2-finger brake levers in Silver (for both 
> short & long pull) (from Riv)
>
> ·  Dia-compe 980 cantilever brakes with upgraded pads in Silver (from 
> Riv)
>
> ·  Sugino XD2 crankset in 170mm (from Riv, has some wear on the 
> anodizing on the arms)
>
> ·  6-tooth spread – Inner ring - Sugino 32T, Middle ring - Sugino 38T 
> & Outside ring - Sugino bashguard (which I had powdercoated black)
>
> ·  8-speed SRAM chain 
>
> ·  White Industries 20T green (beefier trials version) freewheel
>
> ·  Wheels:
>
> ·  Built by Anthony King @ Longleaf 
>
> ·  Velocity Synergy – 32 hole, front & rear, newest version, no offset 
> on the rear
>
> ·  Paul Hi-flange front & rear hubs (32hole)- polished silver with the 
> added strong Paul hex nuts and washers (rear 120mm)
>
> ·  Wheelsmith DB14 2.0/1.7/2.0 Silver Spoke w/ Silver Brass Nipple
>
> ·  Velox rim tape
>
> ·  Bruce Gordon Rock n Road tires in black sidewall, tubes
>
> ·  Jagwire brake cable and housing (White)
>
> ·  Pletscher Twin Legger kickstand with added rubber feet
>
> Price is $2800 net to me.  I'm in New York's Hudson Valley.  Can bring the 
> bike to NYC though.  Shipping is doable at your cost.  I can ship from a 
> quality bike shop (Riv dealer) in my hometown.
>
> Here are some quick iPhone pics.  PHOTOS 
> 

[RBW] FS(Bay Area): 58? Quickbeam

[diekaiser]

Hey all. With regret, I'm selling my Quickbeam. Unfortunately living in a 
studio doesn't accommodate owning 4+ bikes and the Quickbeam didn't make 
the cut. I'm heading up to SF on March 5th for a birthday roadtrip to 
Oregon and will be there for the weekend if you would like to check it out.

 I was having a hard time figuring out which size model it is from the Riv 
catalogs but it has a 57cm top tube and a 56cm seat tube (I measured center 
to center) which I believe puts it at the 58cm model. 

Sale includes Frame, fork, headset, bottom bracket, seat post, and wheel 
set. Unfortunately, I don't have a spare set of brakes as they are moving 
to a different bike along with the crankset. I figured the cockpit would be 
purely preferential. With that said, I have a selection of nitto bars if 
someone would like to inquire. 

I'd say the condition is great as in there are no dents, large scratches, 
etc but the decals are a bit scratched up from locking etc. The only other 
thing that I didn't know about when I bought it was that the front-left 
fender eyelet may be stripped. I'll investigate more closely soon but just 
wanted to mention it.

*Details*
Tange Levin headset
Shimano BB (I don't remember the exact width but I believe it is the one 
that came stock)
Nitto 83 seat post
36h Dura-Ace 7600 track hubs (fixed/fixed)
White Industries 19t freewheel
36h Velocity Atlas rims (non-machined)
700x38 Panaracer Gravelking EXTs (if you would like them).

$1300, but if that doesn't sound reasonable I'm more than happy to chat 
about it.

Here are some photos of the different iterations in which it has been set up 
.

I'll add some more detail photos to the same link shortly.




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Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

[Joe Bernard]

Moving the shifter shouldn't be a problem, I suspect you simply don't have 
quite what you need to index-shift that low-normal mech. 

Joe Bernard

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 1:56:33 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Interesting. Will moving the shifter location on the handlebar generally 
> require a cable adjustment? I’ve been playing quite a bit with where I want 
> those shifters.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 28, 2022, at 8:37 AM, James Valiensi  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> As a matter of fact, derailleur cables do not stretch. The forces involved 
> in shifting are many orders of magnitude lower than the yield stress 
> required to stretch the cable. What actually happens is that inside liner 
> of the cable housing wears and causes the cable to become looser. 
> Generally, a half turn out of the cable tension adjuster will compensate 
> for this.
>
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:59 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> On a new bike yes, the cable has probably stretched. If you're not 
> familiar with fiddling with indexing I'll try a short explainer. 
>
> If you have the older style Deore there will be a cable adjuster on the 
> derailer where the housing ends. Put your bike in the middle cog (5th gear 
> on a 9-speed). Is the pulley directly under that cog? You can turn the 
> adjuster counterclockwise to move it leftward, towards the bigger cogs; 
> clockwise to move right, closer to the smaller cogs. Shift up and down the 
> cassette, you'll probably need to do this a few times until the indexing is 
> correct.
>
> If it's a newer Deore without the adjuster on the derailer you can use the 
> one at the shifter. Which I find super annoying so I don't buy those kind 
> so I don't know which way to turn it, but you'll figure it out after a few 
> turns this way and that. Good luck! 
>
> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 6:59:34 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I cannot answer your question but I am having a similar problem on my 
>> Clem with a Deore rear mech. I suspect cable stretch on this new bike?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:10 PM, Drw  wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so I had a rapid rise derailler around and all this talk from 
>> rivendell got me to put it on my partner's bike that i'm building up. I 
>> can't for the life of me get it to index correctly. Not saying the 
>> derailler is the problem, but i've never had this issue with regular pull 
>> deraillers, so im wondering if i'm missing something.
>>
>>
>> *Components:*
>> Rivendell Platypus 
>> Microshift 9 speed thumb shifter for shimano (new)
>> 9 speed shimano cassette (not new but good shape)
>> Deore LX rapid rise derailer (not new but good shape)
>>
>>
>> *Specific symptoms:*
>> -Can tune it to get the highs and lows, but the middle 2-3 gears get it 
>> jumping all over and not engaging with the cassette. 
>>
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated,
>> Drew. LA
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Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

[Richard Rose]

Interesting. Will moving the shifter location on the handlebar generally 
require a cable adjustment? I’ve been playing quite a bit with where I want 
those shifters.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2022, at 8:37 AM, James Valiensi  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> As a matter of fact, derailleur cables do not stretch. The forces involved in 
> shifting are many orders of magnitude lower than the yield stress required to 
> stretch the cable. What actually happens is that inside liner of the cable 
> housing wears and causes the cable to become looser. Generally, a half turn 
> out of the cable tension adjuster will compensate for this.
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:59 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>> 
>> On a new bike yes, the cable has probably stretched. If you're not familiar 
>> with fiddling with indexing I'll try a short explainer. 
>> 
>> If you have the older style Deore there will be a cable adjuster on the 
>> derailer where the housing ends. Put your bike in the middle cog (5th gear 
>> on a 9-speed). Is the pulley directly under that cog? You can turn the 
>> adjuster counterclockwise to move it leftward, towards the bigger cogs; 
>> clockwise to move right, closer to the smaller cogs. Shift up and down the 
>> cassette, you'll probably need to do this a few times until the indexing is 
>> correct.
>> 
>> If it's a newer Deore without the adjuster on the derailer you can use the 
>> one at the shifter. Which I find super annoying so I don't buy those kind so 
>> I don't know which way to turn it, but you'll figure it out after a few 
>> turns this way and that. Good luck! 
>> 
>>> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 6:59:34 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> I cannot answer your question but I am having a similar problem on my Clem 
>>> with a Deore rear mech. I suspect cable stretch on this new bike?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:10 PM, Drw  wrote:
> 
 Ok, so I had a rapid rise derailler around and all this talk from 
 rivendell got me to put it on my partner's bike that i'm building up. I 
 can't for the life of me get it to index correctly. Not saying the 
 derailler is the problem, but i've never had this issue with regular pull 
 deraillers, so im wondering if i'm missing something.
>>> 
 
 Components:
 Rivendell Platypus 
 Microshift 9 speed thumb shifter for shimano (new)
 9 speed shimano cassette (not new but good shape)
 Deore LX rapid rise derailer (not new but good shape)
 
 
 Specific symptoms:
 -Can tune it to get the highs and lows, but the middle 2-3 gears get it 
 jumping all over and not engaging with the cassette. 
 
 Any thoughts would be appreciated,
 Drew. LA
 
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[RBW] FS: SimpleOne 58cm

[J Schwartz]

This one hurts.  I know I'm gonna regret selling this bike...but I'm not 
riding it too much lately and just converted my Hillborne to a 2 speed with 
a Paul Melvin...and need to continue to shed a few bikes.
I bought this as a frameset from Rivendell when they were released, back in 
2012 or so.
I recently had the bike repainted by Bilenky .  They also did a small dent 
repair in the downtube.
They repainted the bike the same slimy green but with a cream head tube. 
 They also did all the little windows and fork wings in cream.
It's a 58cm and a special bike.  It's been set up as a kind of trail 
scorcher.  I've ridden it a lot on the rail trails here in the Hudson 
Valley.  It's got a 6 tooth spread on the crank chainrings and 700x43cm 
Bruce Gordon tires,   Also a White Industries 20T green freewheel.
I've mostly ridden it in the big (middle) chainring and really have only 
manually shifted it for some long monster climbs, on pavement.  Wheels are 
Synergy 32h laced to high polish hi-flange Paul hubs.  I recently changed 
the hubs from quick release to the fancy hex nuts and washers and keep 2 
hex wrenches attached to the seat stays with super magnets for fast rear 
axle adjustments on the road.
While the paint is relatively new and it's not had a lot of use since being 
repainted, there are a few chips here and there.  The only one that is of 
note is a scrape on the bottom of the downtube (facing the road, so you 
can't see it) that happened when I dropped a pedal wrench when attaching 
pedals.
Other than that, on the rack braze-ons, there's a little paint 
scuffingand the rear dropouts of course. **Note, in the photo below , 
the rear dropouts looked more scuffed than they arethat's actually 
white grease that's showing up in the photo *

This bike is so good.  I had an orange Quickbeam in the same size (58) 
..they are essentially identical frames...but the SimpleOne is better.
The drivetrain on this bike is great.  It engages instantly ...not sure if 
that's due to the heavier duty White Industries green "trials 
" freewheel (more 
engagement points than the standard W.I. freewheels)...but it just clicks 
right it and feels like a single speed should.  Pedaling in reverse leads 
to no chain suck or chain slap or whatever that's called.  
The freewheel is 20t.  That may sound high, but it worked very well for my 
needs which included climbing on paths.  The front chainrings are 38 and 32 
(I believe).
Bars are Chocos upside down on a 10cm Tallux...with ESI grips and 
shellacked Newbaums on the curves.

Parts list below:

Rivendell SimpleOne 

Size 58cm 

*NO SADDLE OR PEDALS*

Recently repainted by Bilenky (original slimy green but with cream headtube)

·  Stock Tange headset

·  Stock Tange 107mm bottom bracket 

·  Stock Taiwanese seatpost (27.2mm)

·  Nitto Tallux - 10cm , 26.0

·  Nitto Riv Choco bars (with Nitto 26.0 to 25.4 shim)

·  Newbaums green/blue with amber shellac & twined

·  ESG chunky silicon grips in Grey

·  Origin8 duo-trigger , 2-finger brake levers in Silver (for both 
short & long pull) (from Riv)

·  Dia-compe 980 cantilever brakes with upgraded pads in Silver (from 
Riv)

·  Sugino XD2 crankset in 170mm (from Riv, has some wear on the 
anodizing on the arms)

·  6-tooth spread – Inner ring - Sugino 32T, Middle ring - Sugino 38T & 
Outside ring - Sugino bashguard (which I had powdercoated black)

·  8-speed SRAM chain 

·  White Industries 20T green (beefier trials version) freewheel

·  Wheels:

·  Built by Anthony King @ Longleaf 

·  Velocity Synergy – 32 hole, front & rear, newest version, no offset 
on the rear

·  Paul Hi-flange front & rear hubs (32hole)- polished silver with the 
added strong Paul hex nuts and washers (rear 120mm)

·  Wheelsmith DB14 2.0/1.7/2.0 Silver Spoke w/ Silver Brass Nipple

·  Velox rim tape

·  Bruce Gordon Rock n Road tires in black sidewall, tubes

·  Jagwire brake cable and housing (White)

·  Pletscher Twin Legger kickstand with added rubber feet

Price is $2800 net to me.  I'm in New York's Hudson Valley.  Can bring the 
bike to NYC though.  Shipping is doable at your cost.  I can ship from a 
quality bike shop (Riv dealer) in my hometown.

Here are some quick iPhone pics.  PHOTOS 



In terms of "issues" , there really aren't any.  The aforementioned scrape 
on the bottom of the downtube.there's a scrape in the Tallux stem from 
a Crane Bell that was on there for awhile.   The Clamp bolt in the stem is 
starting to strip out ...Should be replacedNew bolts 

 
can be purchased from Rivendell for $5.00.  There is a some slight zig zag 
on the sleeve of the Choco bars ...came to me that way from another list 
member.

Let me know if you have questions 

Re: [RBW] WTB: Clem Smith Jr. L 59cm Mustard

[Brett Robinson]

Friends!  

The Roscoe Bubbe baby bike has been great to me the past year, doing lots of 
park and school drop off duties plus weekend runs for pancakes. I’m still 
looking for a Clem Smith Jr L in mustard for when it’s time to pass the baby 
bike along to another parent. 

I’m also interested in another Bubbe baby bike, have a friend looking for one 
in the smaller/650b incarnation. Let me know what you’ve got!

--
Brett Robinson

> On Feb 17, 2021, at 1:13 PM, Brett Robinson  wrote:
> 
> Well, found a step thru but it’s not a Clem L and it’s not mustard. Roscoe 
> Bebe baby bike on its way. Still interested in a 59 Clem L mustard in case 
> anyone sees this and is looking to sell one. 
> 
> --
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> 
>>> On Feb 9, 2021, at 7:19 PM, BRETT ROBINSON  wrote:
>>> 
>> Looking for a 59 cm Clem L, in mustard (butterscotch? butternut? whatever 
>> it's called, you know the one!). My wife is tired of me stealing her Betty 
>> Foy that I bought for her from bicyclebelle last year.
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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Ryan Frahm]

Message sent. And another vote for pirate shipping, has saved me a small 
fortune!

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:10:11 AM UTC-8 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the tip!  I've sold a fair number of handlebars online lately 
> and they're a pain, first having to custom make a box, then dealing with 
> shipping rates.  Anything that helps - helps!
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 11:44:50 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Since you mentioned the cost of shipping for a large package, check out 
>> pirateship.com. Its free to create an account and they offer heavy 
>> discounts on shipping. I use it all the time now.
>>
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:30:30 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Uh oh, an available set of Ortho Bars! 
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:16:34 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi, Brynnar.  I have a set of Ron's Bars that I'm not going to use 
 (switched over to Choco-moose on my Hunqapillar).  Like-new shape, maybe 
 some marks from clamping, but otherwise perfect.  Centering looks good on 
 them too - the edge of the blue tape in the photos is the center.  I'd 
 sell 
 them for the same thing I paid: $120 + shipping.  (Shipping probably will 
 be significant - I'm in northern NJ/NYC if you're local.)  Photos here - 
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/kdqHP5vX727RxhGq9 

 On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5 ctifusion wrote:

> Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
> trade) let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Brynnar
>
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a 
>> set. I regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just 
>> purchased a 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this 
>> have 
>> vs have not :)
>>
>> Hugh
>> LA.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:
>>
>>> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His 
>>> response:
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
>>> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the 
>>> next batch of bars?
>>>
>>> -Danny
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? 
 It seems like there's much more choice
 in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely 
 with a Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.

 Cheers,
 Johnny
 On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a 
> drivetrain upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. 
> Sorry to 
> tempt you with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health 
> benefits). 
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill 
> Technomic deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost 
> centimeter check 
> 'em here 
> 
> . 
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips 
> wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm 
>> quill, but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until 
>> I do. I 
>> don't need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>>> putting 
>>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 
>>> don't 
>>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
>>> assumed 
>>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
>>> aesthetics. 
>>> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues 
>>> with the 
>>> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 
>>> fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass 
 them along? Because I’m in! Haha

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 

Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

[Garth]

Yes, all 6--9 speed road and mtn stuff adheres to the same cable pull 
ratio. 
On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 12:36:55 PM UTC-5 Drw wrote:

> Thanks all, 
> Yes, the shifters do friction and that's how it's being used now. Seems to 
> hold the gears fine in friction. 
> Follow up question. Is ALL shimano 9 speed the same? Road/MTN? Thinking I 
> may just pick up a 9 speed altus if the tinkering doesnt pan out. 
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 5:37:42 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> As a matter of fact, derailleur cables do not stretch. The forces 
>> involved in shifting are many orders of magnitude lower than the yield 
>> stress required to stretch the cable. What actually happens is that inside 
>> liner of the cable housing wears and causes the cable to become looser. 
>> Generally, a half turn out of the cable tension adjuster will compensate 
>> for this.
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:59 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> On a new bike yes, the cable has probably stretched. If you're not 
>> familiar with fiddling with indexing I'll try a short explainer. 
>>
>> If you have the older style Deore there will be a cable adjuster on the 
>> derailer where the housing ends. Put your bike in the middle cog (5th gear 
>> on a 9-speed). Is the pulley directly under that cog? You can turn the 
>> adjuster counterclockwise to move it leftward, towards the bigger cogs; 
>> clockwise to move right, closer to the smaller cogs. Shift up and down the 
>> cassette, you'll probably need to do this a few times until the indexing is 
>> correct.
>>
>> If it's a newer Deore without the adjuster on the derailer you can use 
>> the one at the shifter. Which I find super annoying so I don't buy those 
>> kind so I don't know which way to turn it, but you'll figure it out after a 
>> few turns this way and that. Good luck! 
>>
>> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 6:59:34 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I cannot answer your question but I am having a similar problem on my 
>>> Clem with a Deore rear mech. I suspect cable stretch on this new bike?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:10 PM, Drw  wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok, so I had a rapid rise derailler around and all this talk from 
>>> rivendell got me to put it on my partner's bike that i'm building up. I 
>>> can't for the life of me get it to index correctly. Not saying the 
>>> derailler is the problem, but i've never had this issue with regular pull 
>>> deraillers, so im wondering if i'm missing something.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Components:*
>>> Rivendell Platypus 
>>> Microshift 9 speed thumb shifter for shimano (new)
>>> 9 speed shimano cassette (not new but good shape)
>>> Deore LX rapid rise derailer (not new but good shape)
>>>
>>>
>>> *Specific symptoms:*
>>> -Can tune it to get the highs and lows, but the middle 2-3 gears get it 
>>> jumping all over and not engaging with the cassette. 
>>>
>>> Any thoughts would be appreciated,
>>> Drew. LA
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

[Drw]

Thanks all, 
Yes, the shifters do friction and that's how it's being used now. Seems to 
hold the gears fine in friction. 
Follow up question. Is ALL shimano 9 speed the same? Road/MTN? Thinking I 
may just pick up a 9 speed altus if the tinkering doesnt pan out. 

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 5:37:42 AM UTC-8 James Valiensi wrote:

> Hi,
> As a matter of fact, derailleur cables do not stretch. The forces involved 
> in shifting are many orders of magnitude lower than the yield stress 
> required to stretch the cable. What actually happens is that inside liner 
> of the cable housing wears and causes the cable to become looser. 
> Generally, a half turn out of the cable tension adjuster will compensate 
> for this.
>
> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:59 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> On a new bike yes, the cable has probably stretched. If you're not 
> familiar with fiddling with indexing I'll try a short explainer. 
>
> If you have the older style Deore there will be a cable adjuster on the 
> derailer where the housing ends. Put your bike in the middle cog (5th gear 
> on a 9-speed). Is the pulley directly under that cog? You can turn the 
> adjuster counterclockwise to move it leftward, towards the bigger cogs; 
> clockwise to move right, closer to the smaller cogs. Shift up and down the 
> cassette, you'll probably need to do this a few times until the indexing is 
> correct.
>
> If it's a newer Deore without the adjuster on the derailer you can use the 
> one at the shifter. Which I find super annoying so I don't buy those kind 
> so I don't know which way to turn it, but you'll figure it out after a few 
> turns this way and that. Good luck! 
>
> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 6:59:34 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I cannot answer your question but I am having a similar problem on my 
>> Clem with a Deore rear mech. I suspect cable stretch on this new bike?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:10 PM, Drw  wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so I had a rapid rise derailler around and all this talk from 
>> rivendell got me to put it on my partner's bike that i'm building up. I 
>> can't for the life of me get it to index correctly. Not saying the 
>> derailler is the problem, but i've never had this issue with regular pull 
>> deraillers, so im wondering if i'm missing something.
>>
>>
>> *Components:*
>> Rivendell Platypus 
>> Microshift 9 speed thumb shifter for shimano (new)
>> 9 speed shimano cassette (not new but good shape)
>> Deore LX rapid rise derailer (not new but good shape)
>>
>>
>> *Specific symptoms:*
>> -Can tune it to get the highs and lows, but the middle 2-3 gears get it 
>> jumping all over and not engaging with the cassette. 
>>
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated,
>> Drew. LA
>>
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[RBW] Re: What size fenders on your Platy?

[JAS]

I have the Velo Orange fenders on my Platy also:  700c Zeppelin Fenders, 
52mm - Silver.  They look great and are essential in the rainy PNW.  My 
vision for the build was to keep it light, thus I'm using narrower tires 
than on my Clem.  I have the super wide B65 SKS fenders on Clem and they've 
been just fine.  They're not as fancy as the Zeppelins, but certainly good 
looking, sturdy and functional.  They clear the 2.0 inch tires (650B) and 
have front safety tabs.

Good luck!
--Joyce
On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:03:10 AM UTC-8 Tom Wyland wrote:

> Ha! Yes I was asking because of the sale.  I purchased a gift card on sale 
> last year so I get the sale price anyhow.
> Leah, I thought you had 650b fenders that were re-radiused?  Or was that 
> someone else?
> I'm just tired of my 50mm SKS fenders moving around and rubbing on my 42mm 
> tires. I prefer  at least 10mm of clearance instead of 8mm.
>
> -Tom
>

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[James M]

Thanks for the tip!  I've sold a fair number of handlebars online lately 
and they're a pain, first having to custom make a box, then dealing with 
shipping rates.  Anything that helps - helps!

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 11:44:50 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Since you mentioned the cost of shipping for a large package, check out 
> pirateship.com. Its free to create an account and they offer heavy 
> discounts on shipping. I use it all the time now.
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:30:30 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Uh oh, an available set of Ortho Bars! 
>>
>> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:16:34 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, Brynnar.  I have a set of Ron's Bars that I'm not going to use 
>>> (switched over to Choco-moose on my Hunqapillar).  Like-new shape, maybe 
>>> some marks from clamping, but otherwise perfect.  Centering looks good on 
>>> them too - the edge of the blue tape in the photos is the center.  I'd sell 
>>> them for the same thing I paid: $120 + shipping.  (Shipping probably will 
>>> be significant - I'm in northern NJ/NYC if you're local.)  Photos here - 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kdqHP5vX727RxhGq9 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5 ctifusion wrote:
>>>
 Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
 trade) let me know.

 Thanks,
 Brynnar

 On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. 
> I regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just 
> purchased 
> a 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have 
> not 
> :)
>
> Hugh
> LA.
>
>
> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:
>
>> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His 
>> response:
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
>> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the 
>> next batch of bars?
>>
>> -Danny
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? 
>>> It seems like there's much more choice
>>> in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with 
>>> a Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Johnny
>>> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a 
 drivetrain upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry 
 to 
 tempt you with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health 
 benefits). 

 John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill 
 Technomic deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost 
 centimeter check 
 'em here 
 
 . 

 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips 
 wrote:

> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm 
> quill, but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I 
> do. I 
> don't need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>
> John
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>
>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>> putting 
>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 
>> don't 
>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
>> assumed 
>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
>> aesthetics. 
>> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with 
>> the 
>> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>>
>> Bones
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
>>> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 

 That gave me a chuckle.

 John

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM 

[RBW] Re: What size fenders on your Platy?

[Tom Wyland]

Ha! Yes I was asking because of the sale.  I purchased a gift card on sale 
last year so I get the sale price anyhow.
Leah, I thought you had 650b fenders that were re-radiused?  Or was that 
someone else?
I'm just tired of my 50mm SKS fenders moving around and rubbing on my 42mm 
tires. I prefer  at least 10mm of clearance instead of 8mm.

-Tom

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[RBW] Re: FS: Heat treated Albatross bars, Blue lug 25.4 threadless stem, 90mm generic 31.8 stem

[Andrew Turner]

Also the Bluelug stem has arrived! Again, it's threadless, 80mm long, 
black, and fits a 25.4 handlebar. 

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:05:41 AM UTC-6 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Love them Albasnatch bars
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:43:54 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> Albas have been snatched
>> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 3:45:16 PM UTC-6 Andrew Turner wrote:
>>
>>> I got some goodies to convert drop bars to alt bars but it made the bike 
>>> a little too stable so I'm just going to sell the stuff off. All of it is 
>>> brand new, so not the craziest deals but nothing's full-price either and 
>>> INCLUDES the cost of shipping (CONUS). 
>>>
>>> 1) Heat treated Albatross bars: $120   
>>> 2) Generic UNO threadless -17degree 90mm 31.8 stem with removed 
>>> graphics: $35 
>>> 3) This 
>>>  stem 
>>> from BlueLug: 25.4 clamp, 1-1/8 black threadless 80mm: $100 (Came to $115 
>>> after shipping, and it hasn't shipped yet so there will be a little wait on 
>>> this one)   
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Shellacing the Neubaums

[Eric Marth]

JohnS: It sounds like you have too much shellac in your brush. Submerge the 
bristles of your brush only about a half inch and then lay off the brush by 
wiping the end of the bristles on the underside of the rim of the can. You 
only need enough to get a single even coat. Shellac dries quickly, it won't 
be long until you're ready for the next application. 

As Jstern mentions denatured alcohol is great for cleaning up any shellac 
that ended up where you don't want it. Just dab a bit onto a rag and then 
wipe the rag over your trouble area. 

I don't cover the bike, sometimes I'll mask my bar end shifter pods with 
blue painter's tape but I usually don't bother. 

I haven't had any trouble handling the shellac, no issues with runs or 
drips. I use a 1" wide chip brush and always lay off my brush on the inside 
edge of the can. I clean my brush with denatured alcohol and have used the 
same cheap brush for many shellac applications over the last several years. 

Be warned! Shellac can and does go bad. I pulled an old can of amber 
shellac out of our warehouse for my handlebars once. It never dried and was 
still tacky and goopy days later. I removed it with denatured alcohol. 
Better your bars than a furniture project! 

It depends on the project but I typically like three coats of shellac. 
On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 11:41:55 AM UTC-5 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I never do loads of coats. I like just enough to provide some protection 
> and keep the twine in place.  Usually just one coat honestly. I never cover 
> anything. I am a rebel.
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:25:20 AM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I always apply in very light coats. I end up using 6 or so coats.  Like 
>> you I cover the front of the bike.  I use plastic drop cloths and lasting 
>> tape.  Alcohol, denatured Alcohol can take the shellac off of the places 
>> you do not want it. 
>>
>> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 5:23:28 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>>
>>> Wrapped the Soma Oxfords (Albatross copy) on my '82 Stumpy today. 
>>> Shellac is very runny and just wants to go everywhere, I tried to mask the 
>>> front end of the bike and tipped it in the stand to keep from going where 
>>> it shouldn't. You really can't be too careful with it.
>>>
>>> JohnS
>>>
>>> [image: WIN_20220227_16_50_20_Pro.jpg]
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Johnny Alien]

Since you mentioned the cost of shipping for a large package, check out 
pirateship.com. Its free to create an account and they offer heavy 
discounts on shipping. I use it all the time now.

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:30:30 AM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Uh oh, an available set of Ortho Bars! 
>
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:16:34 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi, Brynnar.  I have a set of Ron's Bars that I'm not going to use 
>> (switched over to Choco-moose on my Hunqapillar).  Like-new shape, maybe 
>> some marks from clamping, but otherwise perfect.  Centering looks good on 
>> them too - the edge of the blue tape in the photos is the center.  I'd sell 
>> them for the same thing I paid: $120 + shipping.  (Shipping probably will 
>> be significant - I'm in northern NJ/NYC if you're local.)  Photos here - 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kdqHP5vX727RxhGq9 
>>
>> On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5 ctifusion wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
>>> trade) let me know.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Brynnar
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>>
 He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. 
 I regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just 
 purchased 
 a 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have 
 not 
 :)

 Hugh
 LA.


 On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:

> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His 
> response:
> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the next 
> batch of bars?
>
> -Danny
>
> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? 
>> It seems like there's much more choice
>> in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with 
>> a Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Johnny
>> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a 
>>> drivetrain upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry 
>>> to 
>>> tempt you with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health 
>>> benefits). 
>>>
>>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
>>> 'em here 
>>> 
>>> . 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm 
 quill, but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I 
 do. I 
 don't need them too high, so fingers crossed.

 John

 On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:

> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
> putting 
> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 
> don't 
> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
> assumed 
> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
> aesthetics. 
> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with 
> the 
> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>
> Bones
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
>> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>>>
>>> That gave me a chuckle.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 
>>> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I 
 seem to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction 
 compound to 
 the stem. Oh, I found it. 

 [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]

 On Tuesday, February 8, 

[RBW] Re: Sunday Sale: Mechs, stems, skewers, brakes, books

[Eric Marth]

A few updates and some price reductions. 

Pictures are here. 


1. Further Adventures in Rough Stuff – *$25*
Pretty much as new. Read it, set it aside. In nice shape! 

2. Velo Orange threadless stem – *$15*
It’s a 17º rise stem, 8cm with a 25.4 bar clamp diameter. For 1-1/8” 
steerer clamp. Installed, never ridden. 

3. *SOLD *Blue Lug threadless stem cap – $15
With some lovely patina and weathering. 

4. *SOLD *Nitto wire saddle bag guard — $30
Rubber and metal in nice shape.

5. *SOLD *Nitto Technomic Deluxe 6cm stem – $65
With a 26.0mm clamp diameter, 190mm overall length, 100mm useable length. 
Mounted, never ridden.

6. Velocity skewers —* $10*
100 front, 135 rear. 

7. Shimano bar end shifters – $60
Some lite scuffs, good shape! *These are the SL BS-78 Dura Ace model. * 

8. Dia Compe 981 short pull levers – *$10*
Really big Dia Compe levers from an MB-3. With overspray from silver spray 
paint (I didn’t do it!). It’s a gd amount of silver paint, pictures 
don’t really show it. 

9. Oury Single Compound Grips – $12
Brand new, in da package, never installed. Black, made in USA. 

10. Foldylock Compact lock – *$40*
Black, in good shape. Two keys included (despite one pictured) and mounting 
sleeve. 

11A. Shimano RD-1055 105 rear derailer – *$10*
Short cage, 7 speed. 

11. Shimano FD-1055 front derailer – *$10*
With a 28.6 clamp, for 2x7. 

12. Brass cup washers – Four for $1
These fit nicely with Rivendell Silver 1 and Silver 2 shifters and I use 
them on both. Solid brass. Number 12 brass cup washers, also known as 
countersunk washers. 

13. *SOLD *Microshift RD-R47 R10 rear derailer – $35
The box rates this as max 28t in the rear but other members have reported 
it’ll shift up to 32t. Brand new in the box. Use with a double or triple. 

14. *GREEN ONE SOLD *Blue Lug reflective triangles – $15/each
New with tags removed, never installed. Willing to sell separately. One 
blue and dark gray. One green and purple. Rare opportunity to know which 
colors you’re getting! 

15. *SOLD *Dia Compe 981 cantilever brakes – $20
Pads are shot! Could use a nice once over with some Simple Green and a 
brush. No hanger wires or clamps. 

16. Wald 137 basket — $10
Black, slightly warped and bent, a few spots of rust. Still a good, 
functional basket. 

17. Suntour Accushift barcons – $50
Some scrapes and scratches as shown. Seems they were dressed up a bit with 
Sharpie (notice the purple hues), both levers are like this. Nice movement, 
for friction or indexing but by all accounts work best for friction 
shifting. 

18. Shimano BR-AT50 cantilever brakes — $20
Pads are shot! Could use a nice once over with some Simple Green and a 
brush. 

19. Surly rear rack – $50
It's a big rear rack, painted black. Some chips through paint and surface 
rust. No structural damage. 
20. Soma toe strap pads – FREE
Please don't ask how I ended up with five (5!) sets of unused toe strap 
pads. Yours for free. Please take them. 

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:48:20 AM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> A few updates and I added a Surly rear rack for $50 and some free Soma toe 
> strap pads. Thanks, everyone!
>
> Pictures are here. 
> 
>
> 1. Further Adventures in Rough Stuff – $30
> Pretty much as new. Read it, set it aside. In nice shape! 
>
> 2. Velo Orange threadless stem – $20
> It’s a 17º rise stem, 8cm with a 25.4 bar clamp diameter. For 1-1/8” 
> steerer clamp. Installed, never ridden. 
>
> 3. *SOLD *Blue Lug threadless stem cap – $15
>
>
> With some lovely patina and weathering. 
>
> 4. *SOLD *Nitto wire saddle bag guard — $30
>
>
> Rubber and metal in nice shape.
>
> 5. Nitto Technomic Deluxe 6cm stem – $65
> With a 26.0mm clamp diameter, 190mm overall length, 100mm useable length. 
> Mounted, never ridden.
>
> 6. Velocity skewers — $12
> 100 front, 135 rear. 
>
> 7. Shimano bar end shifters – $60
> Some lite scuffs, good shape!
>
> 8. Dia Compe 981 short pull levers – $15
> Really big Dia Compe levers from an MB-3. With overspray from silver spray 
> paint (I didn’t do it!). It’s a gd amount of silver paint, pictures 
> don’t really show it. 
>
> 9. Oury Single Compound Grips – $12
> Brand new, in da package, never installed. Black, made in USA. 
>
> 10. Foldylock Compact lock – $60
> Black, in good shape. Two keys included (despite one pictured) and 
> mounting sleeve. 
>
> 11A. Shimano RD-1055 105 rear derailer – $15
> Short cage, 7 speed. 
>
> 11. Shimano FD-1055 front derailer – $15
> With a 28.6 clamp, for 2x7. 
>
> 12. Brass cup washers – Four for $1
> These fit nicely with Rivendell Silver 1 and Silver 2 shifters and I use 
> them on both. Solid brass. Number 12 brass cup washers, also known as 
> countersunk washers. 
>
> 13. *SOLD *Microshift RD-R47 R10 rear derailer – $35
>
>
> The box rates this as max 28t in the rear but other members 

[RBW] Re: Shellacing the Neubaums

[Johnny Alien]

I never do loads of coats. I like just enough to provide some protection 
and keep the twine in place.  Usually just one coat honestly. I never cover 
anything. I am a rebel.

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:25:20 AM UTC-5 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> I always apply in very light coats. I end up using 6 or so coats.  Like 
> you I cover the front of the bike.  I use plastic drop cloths and lasting 
> tape.  Alcohol, denatured Alcohol can take the shellac off of the places 
> you do not want it. 
>
> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 5:23:28 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Wrapped the Soma Oxfords (Albatross copy) on my '82 Stumpy today. Shellac 
>> is very runny and just wants to go everywhere, I tried to mask the front 
>> end of the bike and tipped it in the stand to keep from going where it 
>> shouldn't. You really can't be too careful with it.
>>
>> JohnS
>>
>> [image: WIN_20220227_16_50_20_Pro.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Heat treated Albatross bars, Blue lug 25.4 threadless stem, 90mm generic 31.8 stem

[Eric Marth]

Love them Albasnatch bars

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:43:54 AM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> Albas have been snatched
> On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 3:45:16 PM UTC-6 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I got some goodies to convert drop bars to alt bars but it made the bike 
>> a little too stable so I'm just going to sell the stuff off. All of it is 
>> brand new, so not the craziest deals but nothing's full-price either and 
>> INCLUDES the cost of shipping (CONUS). 
>>
>> 1) Heat treated Albatross bars: $120   
>> 2) Generic UNO threadless -17degree 90mm 31.8 stem with removed graphics: 
>> $35 
>> 3) This 
>>  stem 
>> from BlueLug: 25.4 clamp, 1-1/8 black threadless 80mm: $100 (Came to $115 
>> after shipping, and it hasn't shipped yet so there will be a little wait on 
>> this one)   
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Heat treated Albatross bars, Blue lug 25.4 threadless stem, 90mm generic 31.8 stem

[Andrew Turner]

Albas have been snatched
On Wednesday, February 23, 2022 at 3:45:16 PM UTC-6 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I got some goodies to convert drop bars to alt bars but it made the bike a 
> little too stable so I'm just going to sell the stuff off. All of it is 
> brand new, so not the craziest deals but nothing's full-price either and 
> INCLUDES the cost of shipping (CONUS). 
>
> 1) Heat treated Albatross bars: $120   
> 2) Generic UNO threadless -17degree 90mm 31.8 stem with removed graphics: 
> $35 
> 3) This  
> stem from BlueLug: 25.4 clamp, 1-1/8 black threadless 80mm: $100 (Came to 
> $115 after shipping, and it hasn't shipped yet so there will be a little 
> wait on this one)   
>
> Cheers!
>

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Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[Eric Marth]

Uh oh, an available set of Ortho Bars! 

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 10:16:34 AM UTC-5 mcgr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi, Brynnar.  I have a set of Ron's Bars that I'm not going to use 
> (switched over to Choco-moose on my Hunqapillar).  Like-new shape, maybe 
> some marks from clamping, but otherwise perfect.  Centering looks good on 
> them too - the edge of the blue tape in the photos is the center.  I'd sell 
> them for the same thing I paid: $120 + shipping.  (Shipping probably will 
> be significant - I'm in northern NJ/NYC if you're local.)  Photos here - 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/kdqHP5vX727RxhGq9 
>
> On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5 ctifusion wrote:
>
>> Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
>> trade) let me know.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Brynnar
>>
>> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>>
>>> He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. I 
>>> regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just purchased a 
>>> 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have not :)
>>>
>>> Hugh
>>> LA.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:
>>>
 Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His 
 response:
 [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
 Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the next 
 batch of bars?

 -Danny

 On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:

> Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? It 
> seems like there's much more choice
> in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with a 
> Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.
>
> Cheers,
> Johnny
> On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
>> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
>> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>>
>> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
>> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
>> 'em here 
>> 
>> . 
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm 
>>> quill, but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I 
>>> do. I 
>>> don't need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>>
 Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
 attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
 putting 
 it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 
 don't 
 know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
 assumed 
 that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
 adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
 aesthetics. 
 I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with 
 the 
 Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.

 Bones
 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
> along? Because I’m in! Haha
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips 
> wrote:
>
>> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>>
>> That gave me a chuckle.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 
>> eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I 
>>> seem to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction 
>>> compound to 
>>> the stem. Oh, I found it. 
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>>
 I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted 
 it on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners 
 Bunch  wrote:

 

Re: [RBW] Has anyone tried out their Uncle Ron's Orthopedic Bars?

[James M]

Hi, Brynnar.  I have a set of Ron's Bars that I'm not going to use 
(switched over to Choco-moose on my Hunqapillar).  Like-new shape, maybe 
some marks from clamping, but otherwise perfect.  Centering looks good on 
them too - the edge of the blue tape in the photos is the center.  I'd sell 
them for the same thing I paid: $120 + shipping.  (Shipping probably will 
be significant - I'm in northern NJ/NYC if you're local.)  Photos here 
- https://photos.app.goo.gl/kdqHP5vX727RxhGq9 

On Saturday, February 26, 2022 at 12:17:20 PM UTC-5 ctifusion wrote:

> Anyone have one that's not crazy off center and want to sell them (or 
> trade) let me know.
>
> Thanks,
> Brynnar
>
> On Saturday, February 19, 2022 at 6:39:49 PM UTC-5 Hugh Smitham wrote:
>
>> He, he that was me, the clamp size made me pause on snapping up a set. I 
>> regret not buying them, they were in my cart. I could have just purchased a 
>> 26.0 stem from Simworks and be on the other side of this have vs have not :)
>>
>> Hugh
>> LA.
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 9:24:23 AM UTC-8 Dee Dee wrote:
>>
>>> Someone asked the same thing on one of his instagram posts. His response:
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-10 at 11.17.24 AM.png]
>>> Maybe he has some 26mm clamp stems in production to accompany the next 
>>> batch of bars?
>>>
>>> -Danny
>>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 10, 2022 at 10:53 AM Den John  wrote:
>>>
 Does anyone know why they went for a 26mm clamp rather than 25.4mm? It 
 seems like there's much more choice
 in 25.4mm stems (either ahead or quill). 25.4mm would go nicely with a 
 Nitto V-4 or V-5, then there's much less worry about slipping.

 Cheers,
 Johnny
 On Thursday, 10 February 2022 at 01:22:13 UTC+1 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> @frahm30: I'm working on three builds plus a repair plus a drivetrain 
> upgrade! Five bikes in varying stages of... disaster. Sorry to tempt you 
> with my Ortho Fresh Bars (Still In Box for maximum health benefits). 
>
> John, Ben's Cycle has the 26.0 clamp diameter, 190mm quill Technomic 
> deluxe in size up to 120mm. If you can abide that lost centimeter check 
> 'em here 
> 
> . 
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 2:05:09 PM UTC-5 John Phillips wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to find a 130mm Technomic deluxe with a 190mm quill, 
>> but it looks like I'll have to use a 120mm Nitto Pearl until I do. I 
>> don't 
>> need them too high, so fingers crossed.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:10:23 AM UTC-8 Bones wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly mine are in the shed too, and have not yet seen any use. I 
>>> attached them to my Clem H on a 12cm Tallux but I haven't finished 
>>> putting 
>>> it together. A 26.0 faceplater quill would probably be ideal but I 
>>> don't 
>>> know where to find one of those. I've got an extra dirt drop but I 
>>> assumed 
>>> that would bring them too close to me. One of those threadless stem 
>>> adapters would probably work great but I'm not too keen on the 
>>> aesthetics. 
>>> I'm not a huge dude and I don't anticipate I'll have any issues with 
>>> the 
>>> Tallux. I'll be sure to report back once I get it rolling though.
>>>
>>> Bones
>>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 8:18:25 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Still in the shed? Oh man. Sure you don’t want to just pass them 
 along? Because I’m in! Haha

 On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:16:57 PM UTC-8 John Phillips 
 wrote:

> "Orthopedic back Bars...for performance applications" 
>
> That gave me a chuckle.
>
> John
>
> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 2:14:35 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> John – I haven't tried the bars but have a set in the shed. I 
>> seem to recall somewhere Ron recommended adding some friction 
>> compound to 
>> the stem. Oh, I found it. 
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2022-02-08 at 5.14.07 PM.png]
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 4:29:32 PM UTC-5 Sam Perez wrote:
>>
>>> I found that a single bolt dirt drip stem holds okay, I mounted 
>>> it on a 4 bolt stem it felt more secure, yet to be field tested. 
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Feb 8, 2022, at 12:32 PM, 'John Phillips' via RBW Owners 
>>> Bunch  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> And did you need any friction paste or Loctite in the bar clamp?
>>>
>>> John
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[James M]

[image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 9:47:51 AM UTC-5 James M wrote:

> Decided to switch things up on my Hunq - the Ron's bar is cool, but didn't 
> have the additional forward hand position I needed.  Decided to switch over 
> to the Choco-moose (thanks, Kai!) and it's definitely a better fit for me.  
> A little more width on the back would be nice, probably noticing it more 
> coming from the Ron's, but the 2.5 hand positions I'm getting from this are 
> really good so far!
>
> [image: IMG_20220227_172146741 - small.jpg]
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: New-to-me Hunqapillar

[James M]

Decided to switch things up on my Hunq - the Ron's bar is cool, but didn't 
have the additional forward hand position I needed.  Decided to switch over 
to the Choco-moose (thanks, Kai!) and it's definitely a better fit for me.  
A little more width on the back would be nice, probably noticing it more 
coming from the Ron's, but the 2.5 hand positions I'm getting from this are 
really good so far!

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[RBW] Re: Shellacing the Neubaums

[J S]

I always apply in very light coats. I end up using 6 or so coats.  Like you 
I cover the front of the bike.  I use plastic drop cloths and lasting tape. 
 Alcohol, denatured Alcohol can take the shellac off of the places you do 
not want it. 

On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 5:23:28 PM UTC-5 JohnS wrote:

> Wrapped the Soma Oxfords (Albatross copy) on my '82 Stumpy today. Shellac 
> is very runny and just wants to go everywhere, I tried to mask the front 
> end of the bike and tipped it in the stand to keep from going where it 
> shouldn't. You really can't be too careful with it.
>
> JohnS
>
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Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

[James Valiensi]

Hi,
As a matter of fact, derailleur cables do not stretch. The forces involved in 
shifting are many orders of magnitude lower than the yield stress required to 
stretch the cable. What actually happens is that inside liner of the cable 
housing wears and causes the cable to become looser. Generally, a half turn out 
of the cable tension adjuster will compensate for this.

> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:59 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
> 
> On a new bike yes, the cable has probably stretched. If you're not familiar 
> with fiddling with indexing I'll try a short explainer. 
> 
> If you have the older style Deore there will be a cable adjuster on the 
> derailer where the housing ends. Put your bike in the middle cog (5th gear on 
> a 9-speed). Is the pulley directly under that cog? You can turn the adjuster 
> counterclockwise to move it leftward, towards the bigger cogs; clockwise to 
> move right, closer to the smaller cogs. Shift up and down the cassette, 
> you'll probably need to do this a few times until the indexing is correct.
> 
> If it's a newer Deore without the adjuster on the derailer you can use the 
> one at the shifter. Which I find super annoying so I don't buy those kind so 
> I don't know which way to turn it, but you'll figure it out after a few turns 
> this way and that. Good luck! 
> 
> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 6:59:34 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
> I cannot answer your question but I am having a similar problem on my Clem 
> with a Deore rear mech. I suspect cable stretch on this new bike?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:10 PM, Drw > > wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, so I had a rapid rise derailler around and all this talk from rivendell 
>> got me to put it on my partner's bike that i'm building up. I can't for the 
>> life of me get it to index correctly. Not saying the derailler is the 
>> problem, but i've never had this issue with regular pull deraillers, so im 
>> wondering if i'm missing something.
> 
>> 
>> Components:
>> Rivendell Platypus 
>> Microshift 9 speed thumb shifter for shimano (new)
>> 9 speed shimano cassette (not new but good shape)
>> Deore LX rapid rise derailer (not new but good shape)
>> 
>> 
>> Specific symptoms:
>> -Can tune it to get the highs and lows, but the middle 2-3 gears get it 
>> jumping all over and not engaging with the cassette. 
>> 
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated,
>> Drew. LA
>> 
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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA]

OH wait - I think I get it now. What we need is a way to sort THREADS of a 
singular topic (like this one) by date posted, and list the most recent one 
first. I'm stumped on that one. 

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 8:17:51 AM UTC-5 Marty Gierke, Stewartstown 
PA wrote:

> This group seems to work that way. Not sure if it can be done at the 
> thread level, or needs an entirely new group to set it up to see last post 
> first. 
>
> BoBish Bikes For Sale 
>
> Marty
> On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 8:13:50 AM UTC-5 eddietheflay wrote:
>
>> it's too bad google groups does not have a last in first out function so 
>> all the new stuff would be at the top.
>>
>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 6:36:41 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Speaking of...it's about time for someone to start a new version of this 
>>> thread. This one is purty dang long. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 5:04:10 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 "It's a long drive to right field, going deep and this thread is *outta 
 here!*"

 I get the rationale behind the one-by drive train and certainly the 
 satisfaction of filling your recycling bin with front derailers. And 
 nothing against 'em! If you get by on a one-by that's all right by me. 

 My thinking: "That massive cassette is absurdly big! It's almost like a 
 middle finger to front mechs everywhere! What do people have against front 
 mechs, anyway?"  

 Okay, then. I'm heading to Etsy to look for stickers that say COME AND 
 TAKE IT with little front derailer sillhouettes on them. 

 On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 6:23:06 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Did that, too. Rohloff Speedhub for the win! 
>
> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 2:16:46 PM UTC-8 campyo...@me.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Better still, switch to an IGH. No front *or* rear derailleur!
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2022, at 11:48 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>>
>> "I just don't understand what people have against front mechs."
>>
>> A dropped chain if you're lucky, a chain jammed between the chainring 
>> and chainstay if you're not. Plus eliminating it gets rid of the need to 
>> trim, a thing that always annoyed me. My Riv Custom is 1x, no more front 
>> derailers for me. 
>>
>> Joe Bernard 
>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 10:54:28 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I just don't understand what people have against front mechs
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 1:15:09 PM UTC-5 samwe...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 holy mackerel, get a load of that cassette!

 On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 10:27:24 AM UTC-6 Matthew Williams 
 wrote:

> Bleriot
> 59cm
> $2500
> San Francisco, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-bleriot-59/7450454742.html
>
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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[Marty Gierke, Stewartstown PA]

This group seems to work that way. Not sure if it can be done at the thread 
level, or needs an entirely new group to set it up to see last post first. 

BoBish Bikes For Sale 

Marty
On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 8:13:50 AM UTC-5 eddietheflay wrote:

> it's too bad google groups does not have a last in first out function so 
> all the new stuff would be at the top.
>
> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 6:36:41 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Speaking of...it's about time for someone to start a new version of this 
>> thread. This one is purty dang long. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 5:04:10 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> "It's a long drive to right field, going deep and this thread is *outta 
>>> here!*"
>>>
>>> I get the rationale behind the one-by drive train and certainly the 
>>> satisfaction of filling your recycling bin with front derailers. And 
>>> nothing against 'em! If you get by on a one-by that's all right by me. 
>>>
>>> My thinking: "That massive cassette is absurdly big! It's almost like a 
>>> middle finger to front mechs everywhere! What do people have against front 
>>> mechs, anyway?"  
>>>
>>> Okay, then. I'm heading to Etsy to look for stickers that say COME AND 
>>> TAKE IT with little front derailer sillhouettes on them. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 6:23:06 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Did that, too. Rohloff Speedhub for the win! 

 On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 2:16:46 PM UTC-8 campyo...@me.com 
 wrote:

> Better still, switch to an IGH. No front *or* rear derailleur!
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Feb 25, 2022, at 11:48 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:
>
> "I just don't understand what people have against front mechs."
>
> A dropped chain if you're lucky, a chain jammed between the chainring 
> and chainstay if you're not. Plus eliminating it gets rid of the need to 
> trim, a thing that always annoyed me. My Riv Custom is 1x, no more front 
> derailers for me. 
>
> Joe Bernard 
> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 10:54:28 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I just don't understand what people have against front mechs
>>
>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 1:15:09 PM UTC-5 samwe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> holy mackerel, get a load of that cassette!
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 10:27:24 AM UTC-6 Matthew Williams 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Bleriot
 59cm
 $2500
 San Francisco, CA

 https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-bleriot-59/7450454742.html


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[RBW] Re: What size fenders on your Platy?

[Johnny Alien]

Sadly the Velo Orange sale ended yesterday.

On Monday, February 28, 2022 at 7:46:46 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I *think* I have these Velo Orange fenders on my raspberry Platy. 
> https://velo-orange.com/collections/fenders/products/vo-fluted-63mm-fenders-700c
>  
> And, VO is having a sale, so hurry, hurry.
>
> My mermaid Platy has the SKS fenders, same as yours. I have a fondness for 
> them because I had SKS on my first Riv, my old Betty Foy. 
>
> Good luck.
> Leah
> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 8:26:24 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:
>
>> Can you share what size fenders are on your Platypus?  I have SKS P50s 
>> and it looks like 60s would maybe fit? I would like to try aluminum 
>> fenders, perhaps.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Craigslist/others thread

[eddietheflay]

it's too bad google groups does not have a last in first out function so 
all the new stuff would be at the top.

On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 6:36:41 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Speaking of...it's about time for someone to start a new version of this 
> thread. This one is purty dang long. 
>
>
>
> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 5:04:10 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> "It's a long drive to right field, going deep and this thread is *outta 
>> here!*"
>>
>> I get the rationale behind the one-by drive train and certainly the 
>> satisfaction of filling your recycling bin with front derailers. And 
>> nothing against 'em! If you get by on a one-by that's all right by me. 
>>
>> My thinking: "That massive cassette is absurdly big! It's almost like a 
>> middle finger to front mechs everywhere! What do people have against front 
>> mechs, anyway?"  
>>
>> Okay, then. I'm heading to Etsy to look for stickers that say COME AND 
>> TAKE IT with little front derailer sillhouettes on them. 
>>
>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 6:23:06 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Did that, too. Rohloff Speedhub for the win! 
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 2:16:46 PM UTC-8 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>>>
 Better still, switch to an IGH. No front *or* rear derailleur!

 --Eric Norris
 campyo...@me.com
 Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
 YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 

 On Feb 25, 2022, at 11:48 AM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

 "I just don't understand what people have against front mechs."

 A dropped chain if you're lucky, a chain jammed between the chainring 
 and chainstay if you're not. Plus eliminating it gets rid of the need to 
 trim, a thing that always annoyed me. My Riv Custom is 1x, no more front 
 derailers for me. 

 Joe Bernard 
 On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 10:54:28 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> I just don't understand what people have against front mechs
>
> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 1:15:09 PM UTC-5 samwe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> holy mackerel, get a load of that cassette!
>>
>> On Friday, February 25, 2022 at 10:27:24 AM UTC-6 Matthew Williams 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Bleriot
>>> 59cm
>>> $2500
>>> San Francisco, CA
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-bleriot-59/7450454742.html
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Sunday Sale: Mechs, stems, skewers, brakes, books

[Eric Marth]

A few updates and I added a Surly rear rack for $50 and some free Soma toe 
strap pads. Thanks, everyone!

Pictures are here. 


1. Further Adventures in Rough Stuff – $30
Pretty much as new. Read it, set it aside. In nice shape! 

2. Velo Orange threadless stem – $20
It’s a 17º rise stem, 8cm with a 25.4 bar clamp diameter. For 1-1/8” 
steerer clamp. Installed, never ridden. 

3. *SOLD *Blue Lug threadless stem cap – $15
With some lovely patina and weathering. 

4. *SOLD *Nitto wire saddle bag guard — $30
Rubber and metal in nice shape.

5. Nitto Technomic Deluxe 6cm stem – $65
With a 26.0mm clamp diameter, 190mm overall length, 100mm useable length. 
Mounted, never ridden.

6. Velocity skewers — $12
100 front, 135 rear. 

7. Shimano bar end shifters – $60
Some lite scuffs, good shape!

8. Dia Compe 981 short pull levers – $15
Really big Dia Compe levers from an MB-3. With overspray from silver spray 
paint (I didn’t do it!). It’s a gd amount of silver paint, pictures 
don’t really show it. 

9. Oury Single Compound Grips – $12
Brand new, in da package, never installed. Black, made in USA. 

10. Foldylock Compact lock – $60
Black, in good shape. Two keys included (despite one pictured) and mounting 
sleeve. 

11A. Shimano RD-1055 105 rear derailer – $15
Short cage, 7 speed. 

11. Shimano FD-1055 front derailer – $15
With a 28.6 clamp, for 2x7. 

12. Brass cup washers – Four for $1
These fit nicely with Rivendell Silver 1 and Silver 2 shifters and I use 
them on both. Solid brass. Number 12 brass cup washers, also known as 
countersunk washers. 

13. *SOLD *Microshift RD-R47 R10 rear derailer – $35
The box rates this as max 28t in the rear but other members have reported 
it’ll shift up to 32t. Brand new in the box. Use with a double or triple. 

14. *GREEN ONE SOLD *Blue Lug reflective triangles – $15/each
New with tags removed, never installed. Willing to sell separately. One 
blue and dark gray. One green and purple. Rare opportunity to know which 
colors you’re getting! 

15. Dia Compe 981 cantilever brakes – $20
Pads are shot! Could use a nice once over with some Simple Green and a 
brush. No hanger wires or clamps. 

16. Wald 137 basket — $10
Black, slightly warped and bent, a few spots of rust. Still a good, 
functional basket. 

17. Suntour Accushift barcons – $50
Some scrapes and scratches as shown. Seems they were dressed up a bit with 
Sharpie (notice the purple hues), both levers are like this. Nice movement, 
for friction or indexing but by all accounts work best for friction 
shifting. 

18. Shimano BR-AT50 cantilever brakes — $20
Pads are shot! Could use a nice once over with some Simple Green and a 
brush. 

19. Surly rear rack – $50
It's a big rear rack, painted black. Some chips through paint and surface 
rust. No structural damage. 
20. Soma toe strap pads – FREE
Please don't ask how I ended up with five (5!) sets of unused toe strap 
pads. Yours for free. Please take them. 
On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 2:04:39 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:

> Hi all – Here are a few things for sale. Please contact me off-list 
> directly using my email address as it appears above and refer to the item 
> numbers in the pictures. I’m having trouble receiving PMs and DMs here, 
> they don’t even go to my spam folder. 
>
> Prices do not include shipping which will be calculated based on shipped 
> weight and your location. Shipping from 22401. 
>
> Pictures are here! 
> 
>
> 1. Further Adventures in Rough Stuff – $30
> Pretty much as new. Read it, set it aside. In nice shape! 
>
> 2. Velo Orange threadless stem – $20
> It’s a 17º rise stem, 8cm with a 25.4 bar clamp diameter. For 1-1/8” 
> steerer clamp. Installed, never ridden. 
>
> 3. Blue Lug threadless stem cap – $15
> With some lovely patina and weathering. 
>
> 4. Nitto wire saddle bag guard — $30
> Rubber and metal in nice shape.
>
> 5. Nitto Technomic Deluxe 6cm stem – $65
> With a 26.0mm clamp diameter, 190mm overall length, 100mm useable length. 
> Mounted, never ridden.
>
> 6. Velocity skewers — $12
> 100 front, 135 rear. 
>
> 7. Shimano bar end shifters – $60
> Some lite scuffs, good shape!
>
> 8. Dia Compe 981 short pull levers – $15
> Really big Dia Compe levers from an MB-3. With overspray from silver spray 
> paint (I didn’t do it!). It’s a gd amount of silver paint, pictures 
> don’t really show it. 
>
> 9. Oury Single Compound Grips – $12
> Brand new, in da package, never installed. Black, made in USA. 
>
> 10. Foldylock Compact lock – $60
> Black, in good shape. Two keys included (despite one pictured) and 
> mounting sleeve. 
>
> 11A. Shimano RD-1055 105 rear derailer – $15
> Short cage, 7 speed. 
>
> 11. Shimano FD-1055 front derailer – $15
> With a 28.6 clamp, for 2x7. 
>
> 12. Brass cup washers – Four for $1 
> These fit nicely with Rivendell Silver 1 

[RBW] Re: What size fenders on your Platy?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I *think* I have these Velo Orange fenders on my raspberry 
Platy. 
https://velo-orange.com/collections/fenders/products/vo-fluted-63mm-fenders-700c
 
And, VO is having a sale, so hurry, hurry.

My mermaid Platy has the SKS fenders, same as yours. I have a fondness for 
them because I had SKS on my first Riv, my old Betty Foy. 

Good luck.
Leah
On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 8:26:24 PM UTC-5 Tom Wyland wrote:

> Can you share what size fenders are on your Platypus?  I have SKS P50s and 
> it looks like 60s would maybe fit? I would like to try aluminum fenders, 
> perhaps.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>

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Re: [RBW] Indexing Rapid Rise Questions

[Garth]

Drew, These shifters have a friction mode, yes ?  If they shift and hold 
all the gears in friction, but not with indexing it would either be wonky 
shifters or they are very sensitive to tension. The LX RR has a cable 
tensioner yes ?  Play around with it slightly as you're shifting and see 
where/when/if it's hold those middle gears. 

The middle cogs on 9-speed cassettes, like the 18-21-24 are most prone to 
wandering, so the derailleur position needs to be "just right" to hold the 
cogs. 
On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 10:59:47 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:

> On a new bike yes, the cable has probably stretched. If you're not 
> familiar with fiddling with indexing I'll try a short explainer. 
>
> If you have the older style Deore there will be a cable adjuster on the 
> derailer where the housing ends. Put your bike in the middle cog (5th gear 
> on a 9-speed). Is the pulley directly under that cog? You can turn the 
> adjuster counterclockwise to move it leftward, towards the bigger cogs; 
> clockwise to move right, closer to the smaller cogs. Shift up and down the 
> cassette, you'll probably need to do this a few times until the indexing is 
> correct.
>
> If it's a newer Deore without the adjuster on the derailer you can use the 
> one at the shifter. Which I find super annoying so I don't buy those kind 
> so I don't know which way to turn it, but you'll figure it out after a few 
> turns this way and that. Good luck! 
>
> On Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 6:59:34 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I cannot answer your question but I am having a similar problem on my 
>> Clem with a Deore rear mech. I suspect cable stretch on this new bike?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Feb 27, 2022, at 7:10 PM, Drw  wrote:
>>
>> Ok, so I had a rapid rise derailler around and all this talk from 
>> rivendell got me to put it on my partner's bike that i'm building up. I 
>> can't for the life of me get it to index correctly. Not saying the 
>> derailler is the problem, but i've never had this issue with regular pull 
>> deraillers, so im wondering if i'm missing something.
>>
>>
>> *Components:*
>> Rivendell Platypus 
>> Microshift 9 speed thumb shifter for shimano (new)
>> 9 speed shimano cassette (not new but good shape)
>> Deore LX rapid rise derailer (not new but good shape)
>>
>>
>> *Specific symptoms:*
>> -Can tune it to get the highs and lows, but the middle 2-3 gears get it 
>> jumping all over and not engaging with the cassette. 
>>
>> Any thoughts would be appreciated,
>> Drew. LA
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