[RBW] Re: New ride video.

[brendonoid]

Thanks Eric! The local trail networks have received a lot of funding and 
work over the last few years. Mountain Bike Parks have received the 
majority of funding but the trail networks linking them have also benefited.
It has been a great time to be a Riv rider!

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[RBW] WTB: Nitto M1 Mark's rack or similar

[Justin]

howdy folks,

I'm interested in a Nitto M1 Mark's or similar rack, e.g. Rawland Rando 
rack. Anybody have something collecting dust?

thanks
J

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[RBW] Re: $500 Atlantis

[Joe Bernard]

It's still dicey but if he's come to a place of just needing it gone, that 
number should do it. I've done sales like that. 



On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:42:21 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Actually , Joe...you are right...I didn't see what he wrote about the bike 
> at first glance when I posted earlier
>
> Feels like it should be worth more...someone is getting that bike at a 
> nice price
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[RBW] $500 Atlantis

[Ryan]

Actually , Joe...you are right...I didn't see what he wrote about the bike 
at first glance when I posted earlier

Feels like it should be worth more...someone is getting that bike at a nice 
price

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who got the first ever Rosco Platypus?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Lol, I thought this was the Platy thread. Yeah, the Rosco went immediately. 
But there’s a 50 Platy in MA!

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 5:25:48 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> It was gone before I made my post. It was gone within 15 min after the 
> email went out I think,
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 5:10:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Well once you announced it on the List that was bound to happen.
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2022, at 4:49 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>
>> I thought about it too long.  I am also curious if someone here managed 
>> to grab it..
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:16:30 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> That orange 50 was sold yesterday and it would be great fun to know who 
>>> got it and what they think of it (when they themselves have decided, 
>>> anyway). Was it any of our fine List members? 
>>>
>>> I wish you thousands upon thousands of happy Platy miles…
>>> Leah
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Joe Bernard]

It's weird but the description is written like he knows exactly what he 
has. If he's the original owner and knocking the selling price down from 
what he paid all those years ago it could make sense. Especially if his 
area isn't a good market for Rivbikes. 

Joe Bernard 

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 3:32:49 PM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> $500 for that Atlantis listed as a Road Standard? In pretty good shape? 
> I'd be asking questions; not really much info aside from the photos but 
> looks like a standard Riv build. Too good to be true?
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:59:18 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:
>
>> Sam Hillborne
>> 62cm
>> $1600
>> Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/255444602628
>>
>>
>> Atlantis
>> 58cm
>> $500
>> Sun City, AZ
>>
>> https://bicyclebluebook.com/marketplace/buy-now/2005-rivendell-road-standard-55357
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[RBW] WTB - Back-a-bike bag

['Gary L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hello all,
I'm looking for one in either gray, blue, or olive. Anyone have one lying 
around? It can be the old style without the bungee/hook.
Thanks,
gary 
gmlmurray (at) Mac (dot) com

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[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Ryan]

$500 for that Atlantis listed as a Road Standard? In pretty good shape? I'd 
be asking questions; not really much info aside from the photos but looks 
like a standard Riv build. Too good to be true?

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:59:18 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Sam Hillborne
> 62cm
> $1600
> Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/255444602628
>
>
> Atlantis
> 58cm
> $500
> Sun City, AZ
>
> https://bicyclebluebook.com/marketplace/buy-now/2005-rivendell-road-standard-55357

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[RBW] Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Matthew Williams]

Sam Hillborne
62cm
$1600
Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255444602628


Atlantis
58cm
$500
Sun City, AZ
https://bicyclebluebook.com/marketplace/buy-now/2005-rivendell-road-standard-55357

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Re: [RBW] Re: Who got the first ever Rosco Platypus?

[Johnny Alien]

It was gone before I made my post. It was gone within 15 min after the 
email went out I think,

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 5:10:27 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
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> Well once you announced it on the List that was bound to happen.
>
> On Mar 19, 2022, at 4:49 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
> I thought about it too long.  I am also curious if someone here managed 
> to grab it..
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:16:30 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> That orange 50 was sold yesterday and it would be great fun to know who 
>> got it and what they think of it (when they themselves have decided, 
>> anyway). Was it any of our fine List members? 
>>
>> I wish you thousands upon thousands of happy Platy miles…
>> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Re: Who got the first ever Rosco Platypus?

[Leah Peterson]

Well once you announced it on the List that was bound to happen.

> On Mar 19, 2022, at 4:49 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> 
> I thought about it too long.  I am also curious if someone here managed to 
> grab it..
> 
>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:16:30 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> That orange 50 was sold yesterday and it would be great fun to know who got 
>> it and what they think of it (when they themselves have decided, anyway). 
>> Was it any of our fine List members? 
>> 
>> I wish you thousands upon thousands of happy Platy miles…
>> Leah
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[RBW] Re: Who got the first ever Rosco Platypus?

[Johnny Alien]

I thought about it too long.  I am also curious if someone here managed to 
grab it..

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 4:16:30 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> That orange 50 was sold yesterday and it would be great fun to know who 
> got it and what they think of it (when they themselves have decided, 
> anyway). Was it any of our fine List members? 
>
> I wish you thousands upon thousands of happy Platy miles…
> Leah
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[RBW] FS: 56cm 650B Atlantis frameset

[Bill Lindsay]

A while back I attempted to do a downsize by moving a couple bikes out.  I 
made a list of Nine bikes, each with prices.  I ended up selling one bike 
off the list, which partially solved my storage problem.  Search for the 
thread titled "Raid Bill's Stable" to see the list I had offered.  

One of those bikes was my 650B 56cm MIT Atlantis.  I got several inquiries 
but only from people who wanted the frameset only.  I turned away those 
potential buyers because taking apart a bike would make my storage problem 
worse, not better.  

It appears I -MAY- have an interested party in the wheelset only, which 
puts me in position where I can just the frameset.  So, this is a PENDING 
pre-sale, for sale post.  If that wheelset purchase consummates, THEN I 
will be offering this frame+fork+headset+seatpost for $1150 plus shipping.  

This version of the MIT Atlantis was a brief one.  It's got 650B wheels, 
and a short enough top tube that a drop bar build makes sense.  Shortly 
after this, the Atlantis got  longer in the top tube, making it better for 
swept back bar builds for most people, and went to 700C wheels in the 
equivalent size.  

The bike lives up in Gold Country, but if the wheels sell, then I'll go 
retrieve it and prep the frame.  So, if you are dying to pull off a drop 
bar Atlantis build, let me know and I'll keep you posted.  

Flickr album showing my build:  650B Atlantis | Flickr 


My saddle height is 75.5cm

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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[RBW] Who got the first ever Rosco Platypus?

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

That orange 50 was sold yesterday and it would be great fun to know who got 
it and what they think of it (when they themselves have decided, anyway). 
Was it any of our fine List members? 

I wish you thousands upon thousands of happy Platy miles…
Leah

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Riv 50/52 Step Through (Platypus, Clem L, Cheviot)

[Johnny Alien]

Thanks for that info!! It sounds like I would be in the same boat. So I 
could potentially do a 55 Cheviot but would probably prefer a 50. For sure 
don't want to go to a 55 in the Platy

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 3:46:03 PM UTC-4 Dorothy C wrote:

> Johnny, the Platy/Cheviot sizing is a bit different in the middle size. 
> The 55 Cheviot is 650b wheel size, but the 55 Platy is 700c. 
> I have a 55 Cheviot and I am 81cm pbh, but I would have been better off on 
> the 50cm Platy had I decided to switch bikes. 
> Will mentioned the size difference somewhere
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 12:40:03 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> I think I’d need a 55 but I don’t see a listing for that bike anywhere. 
>> Doug
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>
>> I talked to them so more about it but it just doesn't make sense for me 
>> financially right now. Parting it or selling the parts that I had set aside 
>> for this build would end up with me paying more for the frame then I would 
>> for a new one. But for someone needing a complete its a fair deal.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 3:02:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>>
>>> Is the Platy is Cambridge a 50 or 55?
>>> Doug
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:09:15 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I got a hot tip from Leah on a Platy in Cambridge however it is being 
 sold as a complete and the price is fair but since I have so many parts 
 its 
 a pain to pay the higher price and try and offload a bunch of parts to 
 compensate. If anyone is interested shoot me a message and I will give you 
 the info. Or if someone wants to buy a bike load of nice Riv pats/wheels 
 etc let me know and maybe we can partner up.  Otherwise I am still on the 
 hunt. :)

 On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 8:31:30 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I was planning on taking a shot at a Rosco Platy but now it sounds 
> like they are pushed until May. It's still a solid plan and I will wait 
> if 
> need be but I am going to throw out a feeler as well. Would prefer just a 
> frame as I have all of the parts but could be fine with getting one more 
> complete if its the right thing.  I would need a 50 Platy or Cheviot 
> (they 
> came in the same sizes right?) or a 52 Clem L. I need something with V 
> brakes so I think those are the only step throughs that use them.

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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Riv 50/52 Step Through (Platypus, Clem L, Cheviot)

[Dorothy C]

Johnny, the Platy/Cheviot sizing is a bit different in the middle size. The 
55 Cheviot is 650b wheel size, but the 55 Platy is 700c. 
I have a 55 Cheviot and I am 81cm pbh, but I would have been better off on 
the 50cm Platy had I decided to switch bikes. 
Will mentioned the size difference somewhere

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 12:40:03 PM UTC-7 Doug H. wrote:

> I think I’d need a 55 but I don’t see a listing for that bike anywhere. 
> Doug
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 19, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
> I talked to them so more about it but it just doesn't make sense for me 
> financially right now. Parting it or selling the parts that I had set aside 
> for this build would end up with me paying more for the frame then I would 
> for a new one. But for someone needing a complete its a fair deal.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 3:02:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> Is the Platy is Cambridge a 50 or 55?
>> Doug
>>
>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:09:15 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I got a hot tip from Leah on a Platy in Cambridge however it is being 
>>> sold as a complete and the price is fair but since I have so many parts its 
>>> a pain to pay the higher price and try and offload a bunch of parts to 
>>> compensate. If anyone is interested shoot me a message and I will give you 
>>> the info. Or if someone wants to buy a bike load of nice Riv pats/wheels 
>>> etc let me know and maybe we can partner up.  Otherwise I am still on the 
>>> hunt. :)
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 8:31:30 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>>
 I was planning on taking a shot at a Rosco Platy but now it sounds like 
 they are pushed until May. It's still a solid plan and I will wait if need 
 be but I am going to throw out a feeler as well. Would prefer just a frame 
 as I have all of the parts but could be fine with getting one more 
 complete 
 if its the right thing.  I would need a 50 Platy or Cheviot (they came in 
 the same sizes right?) or a 52 Clem L. I need something with V brakes so I 
 think those are the only step throughs that use them.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki, first ride

['Joel S' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Thanks Rich.  I wasn’t sure if the bags would work when I got the frame but 
I like it now. The size is great, it would work for you too.  

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 3:27:18 PM UTC-4 RichS wrote:

> Looks good Joel. Congratulations on getting the right sized Saluki the 
> second time around. Nice front and rear bag combo too.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL 
> (Saluki and Suntour fan)
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 1:11:23 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Junes, thank you. I love using NOS Suntour stuff whenever possible. 
>>
>> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 12:09 PM, J J  wrote:
>>
>> Fantastic Saluki. It looks like a perfect build. Congratulations on your 
>> first ride. 
>>
>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:47:55 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Matt, great link and beautiful Saluki. Love the color. I don’t think 
>>> that many were made but just a guess as they rarely come up for sale. 
>>> Bleriots rarely come up for sale as well. My first Saluki, the 56cm that 
>>> was too large was green with sidepulls which I prefer but happy to have 
>>> gotten any Saluki. I prefer sidepulls due to hand issues and I find them 
>>> easier to open up to remove a ties. This was my first one…. I hope it is 
>>> still with the second owner. [image: 
>>> 6FA629B9-74EE-44D9-84FD-CEDAA7366424.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:52:26 AM UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>>
 Hi Joel,

 I've had similar requests to keep others in mind if I sell mine, but I 
 cannot imagine letting it go. 

 https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/VlLOB0qumr0

 I'm a bit curious how many were made, but always assumed they rarely go 
 up for sale because they are spectacular bikes. 

 Best regards,
 Matt in Oswego, IL

 On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 4:26:34 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> Thanks Matt. I had mentioned to Johnny that if he was ever going to 
> sell it I wanted it. He remembered and was so overly fair. 
>
> Joel
>
> Sent from ProtonMail for iOS
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 4:21 PM, Matt Beecher  
> wrote:
>
> That's a nice bike and build. The Saluki is one of my favorite bikes, 
> if not *the* favorite. Congrats on the acquisition.
>
> Best regards,
> Matt in Oswego, IL
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:25:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> [image: 94A4BDD3-7098-4E68-A063-89DFAD04AC39.jpeg]Today the weather 
>> was perfect, I had to stop to take off my windbreaker and I probably 
>> could 
>> have worn shorts. So the bike is very smooth, I don’t remember how my 
>> too 
>> big 56cm rode anymore but this 54 is pretty much perfect. Outfitted with 
>> everything from my 55cm Bleriot except the brakes. I was quite surprised 
>> by 
>> the ride as if memory serves it felt different than the Bleriot. Very 
>> stable (more surefooted than the Bleriot), no surprises in handling. The 
>> one difference is that when I put the seat on this (which was always 
>> attached to the seatpost from the Bleriot the setback is a bit more). I 
>> always ride with my seat set levels as this just works for me.I really 
>> have 
>> no idea why it felt so good but it had me questioning the Hillborne 
>> which 
>> always felt more sure footed than the Bleriot, but I will ride that 
>> after 
>> awhile on this one and see. After riding the Hillborne on rollers all 
>> winter the muscles that were not used are letting themselves be known. I 
>> am 
>> very pleased that I bought this frame, just lovely in every way. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: ISO: Riv 50/52 Step Through (Platypus, Clem L, Cheviot)

[Doug Hansford]

I think I’d need a 55 but I don’t see a listing for that bike anywhere. 
Doug

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> On Mar 19, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
> 
> I talked to them so more about it but it just doesn't make sense for me 
> financially right now. Parting it or selling the parts that I had set aside 
> for this build would end up with me paying more for the frame then I would 
> for a new one. But for someone needing a complete its a fair deal.
> 
>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 3:02:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>> Is the Platy is Cambridge a 50 or 55?
>> Doug
>> 
>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:09:15 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>> I got a hot tip from Leah on a Platy in Cambridge however it is being sold 
>>> as a complete and the price is fair but since I have so many parts its a 
>>> pain to pay the higher price and try and offload a bunch of parts to 
>>> compensate. If anyone is interested shoot me a message and I will give you 
>>> the info. Or if someone wants to buy a bike load of nice Riv pats/wheels 
>>> etc let me know and maybe we can partner up.  Otherwise I am still on the 
>>> hunt. :)
>>> 
 On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 8:31:30 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
 I was planning on taking a shot at a Rosco Platy but now it sounds like 
 they are pushed until May. It's still a solid plan and I will wait if need 
 be but I am going to throw out a feeler as well. Would prefer just a frame 
 as I have all of the parts but could be fine with getting one more 
 complete if its the right thing.  I would need a 50 Platy or Cheviot (they 
 came in the same sizes right?) or a 52 Clem L. I need something with V 
 brakes so I think those are the only step throughs that use them.
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[RBW] Re: ISO: Riv 50/52 Step Through (Platypus, Clem L, Cheviot)

[Johnny Alien]

I talked to them so more about it but it just doesn't make sense for me 
financially right now. Parting it or selling the parts that I had set aside 
for this build would end up with me paying more for the frame then I would 
for a new one. But for someone needing a complete its a fair deal.

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 3:02:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> Is the Platy is Cambridge a 50 or 55?
> Doug
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:09:15 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I got a hot tip from Leah on a Platy in Cambridge however it is being 
>> sold as a complete and the price is fair but since I have so many parts its 
>> a pain to pay the higher price and try and offload a bunch of parts to 
>> compensate. If anyone is interested shoot me a message and I will give you 
>> the info. Or if someone wants to buy a bike load of nice Riv pats/wheels 
>> etc let me know and maybe we can partner up.  Otherwise I am still on the 
>> hunt. :)
>>
>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 8:31:30 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I was planning on taking a shot at a Rosco Platy but now it sounds like 
>>> they are pushed until May. It's still a solid plan and I will wait if need 
>>> be but I am going to throw out a feeler as well. Would prefer just a frame 
>>> as I have all of the parts but could be fine with getting one more complete 
>>> if its the right thing.  I would need a 50 Platy or Cheviot (they came in 
>>> the same sizes right?) or a 52 Clem L. I need something with V brakes so I 
>>> think those are the only step throughs that use them.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO: Riv 50/52 Step Through (Platypus, Clem L, Cheviot)

[Johnny Alien]

50cm. And a very nice build. Pretty much new.

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 3:02:29 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:

> Is the Platy is Cambridge a 50 or 55?
> Doug
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:09:15 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I got a hot tip from Leah on a Platy in Cambridge however it is being 
>> sold as a complete and the price is fair but since I have so many parts its 
>> a pain to pay the higher price and try and offload a bunch of parts to 
>> compensate. If anyone is interested shoot me a message and I will give you 
>> the info. Or if someone wants to buy a bike load of nice Riv pats/wheels 
>> etc let me know and maybe we can partner up.  Otherwise I am still on the 
>> hunt. :)
>>
>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 8:31:30 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>>> I was planning on taking a shot at a Rosco Platy but now it sounds like 
>>> they are pushed until May. It's still a solid plan and I will wait if need 
>>> be but I am going to throw out a feeler as well. Would prefer just a frame 
>>> as I have all of the parts but could be fine with getting one more complete 
>>> if its the right thing.  I would need a 50 Platy or Cheviot (they came in 
>>> the same sizes right?) or a 52 Clem L. I need something with V brakes so I 
>>> think those are the only step throughs that use them.
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki, first ride

[RichS]

Looks good Joel. Congratulations on getting the right sized Saluki the 
second time around. Nice front and rear bag combo too.

Best,
Rich in ATL 
(Saluki and Suntour fan)

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 1:11:23 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> Junes, thank you. I love using NOS Suntour stuff whenever possible. 
>
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>
>
> On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 12:09 PM, J J  wrote:
>
> Fantastic Saluki. It looks like a perfect build. Congratulations on your 
> first ride. 
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:47:55 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Matt, great link and beautiful Saluki. Love the color. I don’t think that 
>> many were made but just a guess as they rarely come up for sale. Bleriots 
>> rarely come up for sale as well. My first Saluki, the 56cm that was too 
>> large was green with sidepulls which I prefer but happy to have gotten any 
>> Saluki. I prefer sidepulls due to hand issues and I find them easier to 
>> open up to remove a ties. This was my first one…. I hope it is still with 
>> the second owner. [image: 6FA629B9-74EE-44D9-84FD-CEDAA7366424.jpeg]
>>
>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:52:26 AM UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Joel,
>>>
>>> I've had similar requests to keep others in mind if I sell mine, but I 
>>> cannot imagine letting it go. 
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/VlLOB0qumr0
>>>
>>> I'm a bit curious how many were made, but always assumed they rarely go 
>>> up for sale because they are spectacular bikes. 
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Matt in Oswego, IL
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 4:26:34 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Matt. I had mentioned to Johnny that if he was ever going to 
 sell it I wanted it. He remembered and was so overly fair. 

 Joel

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 On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 4:21 PM, Matt Beecher  
 wrote:

 That's a nice bike and build. The Saluki is one of my favorite bikes, 
 if not *the* favorite. Congrats on the acquisition.

 Best regards,
 Matt in Oswego, IL
 On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:25:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> [image: 94A4BDD3-7098-4E68-A063-89DFAD04AC39.jpeg]Today the weather 
> was perfect, I had to stop to take off my windbreaker and I probably 
> could 
> have worn shorts. So the bike is very smooth, I don’t remember how my too 
> big 56cm rode anymore but this 54 is pretty much perfect. Outfitted with 
> everything from my 55cm Bleriot except the brakes. I was quite surprised 
> by 
> the ride as if memory serves it felt different than the Bleriot. Very 
> stable (more surefooted than the Bleriot), no surprises in handling. The 
> one difference is that when I put the seat on this (which was always 
> attached to the seatpost from the Bleriot the setback is a bit more). I 
> always ride with my seat set levels as this just works for me.I really 
> have 
> no idea why it felt so good but it had me questioning the Hillborne which 
> always felt more sure footed than the Bleriot, but I will ride that after 
> awhile on this one and see. After riding the Hillborne on rollers all 
> winter the muscles that were not used are letting themselves be known. I 
> am 
> very pleased that I bought this frame, just lovely in every way. 
>
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[RBW] Re: ISO: Riv 50/52 Step Through (Platypus, Clem L, Cheviot)

[Doug H.]

Is the Platy is Cambridge a 50 or 55?
Doug

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:09:15 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I got a hot tip from Leah on a Platy in Cambridge however it is being sold 
> as a complete and the price is fair but since I have so many parts its a 
> pain to pay the higher price and try and offload a bunch of parts to 
> compensate. If anyone is interested shoot me a message and I will give you 
> the info. Or if someone wants to buy a bike load of nice Riv pats/wheels 
> etc let me know and maybe we can partner up.  Otherwise I am still on the 
> hunt. :)
>
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 8:31:30 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> I was planning on taking a shot at a Rosco Platy but now it sounds like 
>> they are pushed until May. It's still a solid plan and I will wait if need 
>> be but I am going to throw out a feeler as well. Would prefer just a frame 
>> as I have all of the parts but could be fine with getting one more complete 
>> if its the right thing.  I would need a 50 Platy or Cheviot (they came in 
>> the same sizes right?) or a 52 Clem L. I need something with V brakes so I 
>> think those are the only step throughs that use them.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki, first ride

['JRStern11' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Junes, thank you. I love using NOS Suntour stuff whenever possible.

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On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 12:09 PM, J J  wrote:

> Fantastic Saluki. It looks like a perfect build. Congratulations on your 
> first ride.
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:47:55 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:
>
>> Matt, great link and beautiful Saluki. Love the color. I don’t think that 
>> many were made but just a guess as they rarely come up for sale. Bleriots 
>> rarely come up for sale as well. My first Saluki, the 56cm that was too 
>> large was green with sidepulls which I prefer but happy to have gotten any 
>> Saluki. I prefer sidepulls due to hand issues and I find them easier to open 
>> up to remove a ties. This was my first one…. I hope it is still with the 
>> second owner. [6FA629B9-74EE-44D9-84FD-CEDAA7366424.jpeg]
>>
>> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:52:26 AM UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Joel,
>>>
>>> I've had similar requests to keep others in mind if I sell mine, but I 
>>> cannot imagine letting it go.
>>>
>>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/VlLOB0qumr0
>>>
>>> I'm a bit curious how many were made, but always assumed they rarely go up 
>>> for sale because they are spectacular bikes.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Matt in Oswego, IL
>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 4:26:34 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Matt. I had mentioned to Johnny that if he was ever going to sell 
 it I wanted it. He remembered and was so overly fair.

 Joel

 Sent from ProtonMail for iOS

 On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 4:21 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:

> That's a nice bike and build. The Saluki is one of my favorite bikes, if 
> not the favorite. Congrats on the acquisition.
>
> Best regards,
> Matt in Oswego, IL
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:25:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> [94A4BDD3-7098-4E68-A063-89DFAD04AC39.jpeg]Today the weather was 
>> perfect, I had to stop to take off my windbreaker and I probably could 
>> have worn shorts. So the bike is very smooth, I don’t remember how my 
>> too big 56cm rode anymore but this 54 is pretty much perfect. Outfitted 
>> with everything from my 55cm Bleriot except the brakes. I was quite 
>> surprised by the ride as if memory serves it felt different than the 
>> Bleriot. Very stable (more surefooted than the Bleriot), no surprises in 
>> handling. The one difference is that when I put the seat on this (which 
>> was always attached to the seatpost from the Bleriot the setback is a 
>> bit more). I always ride with my seat set levels as this just works for 
>> me.I really have no idea why it felt so good but it had me questioning 
>> the Hillborne which always felt more sure footed than the Bleriot, but I 
>> will ride that after awhile on this one and see. After riding the 
>> Hillborne on rollers all winter the muscles that were not used are 
>> letting themselves be known. I am very pleased that I bought this frame, 
>> just lovely in every way.

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[RBW] Re: FS: Bikepacking Bags - Riv style

[Collin A]

All bags are gone. Thanks everyone and enjoy the weekend!

Collin in Rainy *gasp* Sacramento Today

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 1:47:59 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> The Zeitgesit is on it's way out, just the basketbag remaining.
>
> *Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
> Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
> a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
> abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
> currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $70 
> shipped.*
>
> Collin in Sactown
>
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:01:28 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:
>
>> Doing a bump and a price drop:
>>
>> *Swift Zeitgeist Campandgoslow Edition* - Used for more 
>> beach/Picnicpacking trips where it either contained the beer, the chairs, 
>> or the lunches. It was a limited edition run with the orange cordura and 
>> the pretty cool patch and the rattlesnake trim, and MUSA (which apparently 
>> is no longer the case with swift industries :/).* Asking $180 + shipping*
>>
>> *Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
>> Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
>> a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
>> abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
>> currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $70 
>> shipped.*
>>
>> Collin, recovering from a broken rib so finally following up on this 
>> post, in Sacramento
>>
>> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 7:38:57 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>>
>>> Alright, the mini-panniers are sold, the other two bags are still up for 
>>> grabs:
>>>
>>> *Swift Zeitgeist Campandgoslow Edition* - Used for more 
>>> beach/Picnicpacking trips where it either contained the beer, the chairs, 
>>> or the lunches. It was a limited edition run with the orange cordura and 
>>> the pretty cool patch and the rattlesnake trim, and MUSA (which apparently 
>>> is no longer the case with swift industries :/).* Asking $200 + 
>>> shipping*
>>>
>>> *Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
>>> Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It has 
>>> a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
>>> abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
>>> currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $80 
>>> shipped.*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, March 6, 2022 at 5:14:42 PM UTC-8 Collin A wrote:
>>>
 Folks,

 I'm continuing a purge of my storage closet, and have some camping bags 
 that I haven't used in a bit that could use a new home as well. 

 Photos here (along with the hilibike parts on my other post):
 https://photos.app.goo.gl/Xa3dF6DW7xUBm9Rj9

 *Framework Design Mini Panniers, navy* - These are a lovely and soft 
 cotton/waxed canvas pair of mini panniers from a bag maker in Australia. 
 Used for a couple S240s, but the packing setup has changed. They look 
 great 
 in person and would complement a nice Rivendell frame exquisitely well. It 
 mounts to any 3-pack-style mounts on frames, forks, or racks. *Asking 
 $100 + shipping*

 *Swift Zeitgeist Campandgoslow Edition* - Used for more 
 beach/Picnicpacking trips where it either contained the beer, the chairs, 
 or the lunches. It was a limited edition run with the orange cordura and 
 the pretty cool patch and the rattlesnake trim, and MUSA (which apparently 
 is no longer the case with swift industries :/).* Asking $200 + 
 shipping*

 *Porcelain Rocket meanwhile 137 basketpacking bag*, coyote color - 
 Waterproof Made in Canada basket bag that perfectly fits a wald 137. It 
 has 
 a bit of wear on the bottom of the bag and back, but the material is very 
 abrasion proof so the photos make it worse that what it looks like. Its 
 currently made by Rockgeist, but appears out of stock. *Asking $80 
 shipped.*

 Cheers all,
 Collin in Sactown

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki, first ride

[J J]

Fantastic Saluki. It looks like a perfect build. Congratulations on your 
first ride. 

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 10:47:55 AM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> Matt, great link and beautiful Saluki.  Love the color.  I don’t think 
> that many were made but just a guess as they rarely come up for sale. 
>  Bleriots rarely come up for sale as well.  My first Saluki, the 56cm that 
> was too large was green with sidepulls which I prefer but happy to have 
> gotten any Saluki.  I prefer sidepulls due to hand issues and I find them 
> easier to open up to remove a ties.  This was my first one…. I hope it is 
> still with the second owner.  [image: 
> 6FA629B9-74EE-44D9-84FD-CEDAA7366424.jpeg]
>
> On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 9:52:26 AM UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:
>
>> Hi Joel,
>>
>> I've had similar requests to keep others in mind if I sell mine, but I 
>> cannot imagine letting it go.  
>>
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/VlLOB0qumr0
>>
>> I'm a bit curious how many were made, but always assumed they rarely go 
>> up for sale because they are spectacular bikes.  
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Matt in Oswego, IL
>>
>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 4:26:34 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Matt.  I had mentioned to Johnny that if he was ever going to 
>>> sell it I wanted it.  He remembered and was so overly fair.  
>>>
>>> Joel
>>>
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>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 4:21 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:
>>>
>>> That's a nice bike and build. The Saluki is one of my favorite bikes, if 
>>> not *the* favorite.  Congrats on the acquisition.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Matt in Oswego, IL
>>> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:25:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>>>
 [image: 94A4BDD3-7098-4E68-A063-89DFAD04AC39.jpeg]Today the weather 
 was perfect, I had to stop to take off my windbreaker and I probably could 
 have worn shorts. So the bike is very smooth, I don’t remember how my too 
 big 56cm rode anymore but this 54 is pretty much perfect. Outfitted with 
 everything from my 55cm Bleriot except the brakes. I was quite surprised 
 by 
 the ride as if memory serves it felt different than the Bleriot. Very 
 stable (more surefooted than the Bleriot), no surprises in handling. The 
 one difference is that when I put the seat on this (which was always 
 attached to the seatpost from the Bleriot the setback is a bit more). I 
 always ride with my seat set levels as this just works for me.I really 
 have 
 no idea why it felt so good but it had me questioning the Hillborne which 
 always felt more sure footed than the Bleriot, but I will ride that after 
 awhile on this one and see. After riding the Hillborne on rollers all 
 winter the muscles that were not used are letting themselves be known. I 
 am 
 very pleased that I bought this frame, just lovely in every way. 


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[RBW] Re: Flat Pedal Users: Favorite size/shape?

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

I love V.P. pedals until they start going bad, which is pretty quick in my 
experience. Needing to rebuild a pedal regularly gets in the way of my 
minimal maintenance schedule, so I decided to try these Fookers- 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/NXPs7HwaAgJwDU8V9 because they’re 
cheap/disposable. To my surprise, they’re not disposable. They’re long 
lasting, totally great (and cheap!). Maybe not the most stylish, but I 
usually can’t see them…
-Kai

On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 9:24:43 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:

> Hi all.
> I've been riding VP Vice pedals for a few years now. It took a long while 
> (aprx. a year) to get used to riding flats, coming from Speedplay Frogs. 
> Finally, it took, and I'm happy on the flats for my commuter (Sam Hill).
>
> However, the Vice have developed play, rattle a bit, and generally feel 
> gritty, and I have been experimenting with different ideas. I've recently 
> used the old MKS Touring pedals, and RMX sneaker pedals. These are okay, 
> but what I've discovered is that for my riding,  flats without connection 
> (no clips/straps, powergrips) feel better underfoot with a fairly large 
> platform, and low stack height,  like the Vice. And yet I know many of you 
> enjoy the Riv-approved MKS Gamma, lambda, and Allways models. All of these 
> appear to be taller, and all are narrower than the vice. And yet...I 
> wonder: how big is big enough? I'm not racing downhill, fully padded and 
> helmeted, on a double boinger, like my neice. I just ride my bike here and 
> there, long distances, when time allows.
>
> I always want to support Riv when possible. But I am looking at many other 
> pedals that Riv does not sell. What are some of your favorites, and why? 
> For what use? If you use the aforementioned MKS pedals, what is your 
> opinion of them? Do you like the size/shape? I'm wondering if the length of 
> the pedal is more important than the width. The Gamma, Lambda, and Allways, 
> for instance, are all longer than the Vice, while being slimmer. 
>
> Thanks.
> John
>
>
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[RBW] Re: New ride video.

[Eric Marth]

Nice vid, Brendon! Looks like fun riding, wish I had groovy trails like 
that around me. 

On Saturday, March 19, 2022 at 5:27:23 AM UTC-4 brendonoid wrote:

> Hey folks, Lots of people seem to have enjoyed that last few videos I've 
> posted so here is a link to a new one! 
> 
>
> I thought it would be nice to have at least one ride video for each of my 
> Rivs. I am hoping to do something a bit special for my Homers 10th 
> anniversary coming up in May. I am also planning on filming my Susie build 
> probably around the same time.
>
> Please enjoy!
> Brendon M.
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[RBW] Re: ISO: Riv 50/52 Step Through (Platypus, Clem L, Cheviot)

[Johnny Alien]

I got a hot tip from Leah on a Platy in Cambridge however it is being sold 
as a complete and the price is fair but since I have so many parts its a 
pain to pay the higher price and try and offload a bunch of parts to 
compensate. If anyone is interested shoot me a message and I will give you 
the info. Or if someone wants to buy a bike load of nice Riv pats/wheels 
etc let me know and maybe we can partner up.  Otherwise I am still on the 
hunt. :)

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 8:31:30 PM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:

> I was planning on taking a shot at a Rosco Platy but now it sounds like 
> they are pushed until May. It's still a solid plan and I will wait if need 
> be but I am going to throw out a feeler as well. Would prefer just a frame 
> as I have all of the parts but could be fine with getting one more complete 
> if its the right thing.  I would need a 50 Platy or Cheviot (they came in 
> the same sizes right?) or a 52 Clem L. I need something with V brakes so I 
> think those are the only step throughs that use them.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Saluki, first ride

[Matt Beecher]

Hi Joel,

I've had similar requests to keep others in mind if I sell mine, but I 
cannot imagine letting it go.  

https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/VlLOB0qumr0

I'm a bit curious how many were made, but always assumed they rarely go up 
for sale because they are spectacular bikes.  

Best regards,
Matt in Oswego, IL

On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 4:26:34 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> Thanks Matt.  I had mentioned to Johnny that if he was ever going to sell 
> it I wanted it.  He remembered and was so overly fair.  
>
> Joel
>
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>
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2022 at 4:21 PM, Matt Beecher  wrote:
>
> That's a nice bike and build. The Saluki is one of my favorite bikes, if 
> not *the* favorite.  Congrats on the acquisition.
>
> Best regards,
> Matt in Oswego, IL
> On Friday, March 18, 2022 at 2:25:31 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:
>
>> [image: 94A4BDD3-7098-4E68-A063-89DFAD04AC39.jpeg]Today the weather was 
>> perfect, I had to stop to take off my windbreaker and I probably could have 
>> worn shorts. So the bike is very smooth, I don’t remember how my too big 
>> 56cm rode anymore but this 54 is pretty much perfect. Outfitted with 
>> everything from my 55cm Bleriot except the brakes. I was quite surprised by 
>> the ride as if memory serves it felt different than the Bleriot. Very 
>> stable (more surefooted than the Bleriot), no surprises in handling. The 
>> one difference is that when I put the seat on this (which was always 
>> attached to the seatpost from the Bleriot the setback is a bit more). I 
>> always ride with my seat set levels as this just works for me.I really have 
>> no idea why it felt so good but it had me questioning the Hillborne which 
>> always felt more sure footed than the Bleriot, but I will ride that after 
>> awhile on this one and see. After riding the Hillborne on rollers all 
>> winter the muscles that were not used are letting themselves be known. I am 
>> very pleased that I bought this frame, just lovely in every way. 
>>
>>
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[RBW] New ride video.

[brendonoid]

Hey folks, Lots of people seem to have enjoyed that last few videos I've 
posted so here is a link to a new one! 


I thought it would be nice to have at least one ride video for each of my 
Rivs. I am hoping to do something a bit special for my Homers 10th 
anniversary coming up in May. I am also planning on filming my Susie build 
probably around the same time.

Please enjoy!
Brendon M.

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[RBW] Re: Let's talk about the All Rounder

[Chris Zegers]

Hi  Sean,
I had a an early Waterford A/R which was ordered in 1994 and I recieved it 
in 1995 (Burnt orange with gray flannel). One of the best bikes I owned and 
the one bike I wish I would've kept. In fact, I have a Nobilette built 
Rivendell influenced by that  A/R w/700c wheels,  which reminds me alot of 
that first one, yet is quit a bit better with regard to fit, wheel size, 
tire clearance and ride.  If you can find one, go for it, I think they are  
a classic riding, all road bike that was ahead of the time. In fact,  Jan 
Haine's ultimate all-road bike is very similarly styled, albeit with 
clearance for bigger tires as the early A/R's. Good luck.
Chris


On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 6:50:18 AM UTC-7 Sean Steinle wrote:

> I apologize if this has already been discussed, but I honestly can't find 
> much about the All Rounder, in the way of ride reports, reviews, etc. It 
> seems to be a Holy Grail bike for several, and I'm curious, is it simply 
> the fact that they're rare and hard to find now, or is there truly 
> something special about it? 
>
> I remember Grant talking about the old Bridgestones in an article I came 
> across, and his sentiment was essentially 'They're fine bikes, but they 
> don't stack up against Rivs'. At least part of his reasoning was that he'd 
> continued to refine with Rivendell, and the improvements were drastic 
> enough that he felt the Rivs were in a different league. This makes me 
> wonder if Grant would have a similar feeling about the All Rounder. I'd 
> love to hear from those who own/have owned one. What's the verdict, is it 
> truly one of the best Rivs out there? Worth the price of admission if one 
> is lucky enough to find one in their size?
>
> Thanks for humoring me :)
> Sean in Kansas
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[RBW] Brand V bag request

[Sean Hipkin]

Hi bunch! I sold my Brand V bar tube a while back and regret it. I was 
wondering if anyone had this bag, as well as the Brand V saddle bag they 
would like to part ways with?

Thanks!
- Sean

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[RBW] Re: FS: New Rivendell Cheviot 62cm

[Daniel Rooke]

Edit: should be 60cm

On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 7:07:03 PM UTC-4 Daniel Rooke wrote:

> I've overextended myself on bikes and have to sell this even though I 
> suspect I may regret it.  I bought this bike a few months ago from Halcyon 
> Bike Shop in Tennessee.  Someone had posted here about it being for sale 
> and I got it.  It's never been built up - basically new - it was hanging up 
> in the shop for years.  The only mark on it is a small paint chip I 
> photographed.  I'd like to make up what I paid for it if that's fair.  I 
> can ship through bike flights but would ideally sell it locally.  I'm in 
> New York.  But Bikeflights would be 18lbs and the dimensions are 45 x 26 x 
> 8 inches.  I'm asking $1600 plus shipping.  
>
> Photos 
> 
>
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