[RBW] Re: Photos and details of my 1995 Riv Road Standard build

[Fullylugged]

Very nice build.  As a fellow '95 Road rider, I share your enthusiasm for 
this bike's riding characteristics.  26" was used by RBW a couple of times 
to get better geometry in smaller size frames. It works. Hope you enjoy 
many miles on yours!

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 7:52:32 PM UTC-5 Adrianna T wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Back in January I came across a custom Riv Road Standard that I didn't 
> know anything about, other than that it was being sold by Joe Breeze (to 
> raise funds for his bicycling museum).
>
> A bunch of you here helped to spec it out and that helped me feel 
> confident enough to buy it.
>
> After several months, I finally have a bike!
>
> (The delay was largely around waiting for parts to show up, with this 
> supply chain and all).
>
> Here's what I ended up with. Photos attached.
>
> - Nitto Randonneur 25.4 400mm
> - Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled
> - Nitto Fillet FacePlater Quill stem
> - Dia-Compe ENE Down Tube Shifters
> - Rene Herse Double Crank 46-30 - 171mm
> - MKS Monarch pedals
> - Velo Orange 32 hole silver front and rear hubs
> Velocity A32 32 hole polished rims 
> - Shimano 105
> - Microshift 11-36
> - 26″ x 1.25″ Elk Pass Tires
> - Dura Ace 
>
> Thanks to Scenic Routes (community bike center in San Francisco), and this 
> community here, for the input and advice. It rides like a dream and I am 
> really, really happy with it.
>

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[RBW] Re: Jim 7 speed cassette on a triple

[Garth]

As long as you're within the total capacity of the RD it could work with 
one of those Wolf Tooth derailleur hanger extensions, called a Roadlink I 
think. Others make them, but Wolfies and Wheels Mfg I know for sure use a 
stainless steel bolt, while the other use aluminum.  The Wolfie helps to 
clear the largest cog only, it doesn't add any capacity, that's for the 
RD.  A 13-42 , at 29 teeth, doesn't leave much room for a triple with much 
spread. 45t is what most mtb RD are ? That leaves 16t spread for the rings. 
I for one never use certain combos of course so these "formulas" are 
theoretical, actual use, if you know what you're doing, can go beyond all 
that. "Know what you're doing" ... meaning  not running say a 26t small 
cog and the last 3 cogs, and likewise, not using the big ring in at least 
the 2 largest cogs, it really depends on the crank chainline and how much 
you heed or ignore the horrible sound of cross angling of the chain. 

A half step triple would work, like a 44/40/28 for example. The numbers are 
off the top of my head, not a suggestion. Having the half step would help 
split some of the large jumps in the cassette. 

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:11:11 PM UTC-4 Sam Perez wrote:

> Any one know if a 7 speed 42 would work with a long cage silver triple? Or 
> is it only compatible with a wide double?
>
> Thanks 
> Samuel 
>
> Sent from my iPhone

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[RBW] Re: A love letter to stainless steel water bottles

[Miles]

+1 for Bivo, I'm really enjoying mine. However, I did get the raw stainless 
and ejected one out of a Ti King Cage on a gravel descent. If you're riding 
rough stuff the silicon coated might be a better option, though I've never 
felt on in-hand.

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:29:34 PM UTC-7 weste...@gmail.com wrote:

> Andrew, 
>
> Did you buy the raw or the coated version. How are they noise wise on a 
> bumpy road? I tried Kleen Kanteen a few years back and the clatter annoyed 
> my a lot -- but I thimnk thatmight have been the less than optimal fit in 
> my metal cages. 
>
> Thanks for the review -- it's always interesting to hear about innovative 
> new products. 
>
> Julian Westerhout
> Bloomington, IL 
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:12:48 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:
>
>> I came across this company a couple weeks ago and bought 2, and thought 
>> I'd share.
>> https://drinkbivo.com/   
>>
>> I've used both plastic (Purist) and stainless (Klean Kanteen) bottles in 
>> the past but the Purist inevitably get funky, leaves an aftertaste despite 
>> the hype, and will eventually get tossed. Kleans are great but not as 
>> optimized for cycling as Bivo's product. I highly recommend trying them 
>> out, especially if you haven't tried stainless. This came off really ady so 
>> I apologize for that but plastic sucks...that being said, it looks like 
>> some biodegradable options are popping up which is great. (But stainless 
>> tastes so gd) OK I'M DONE, PROMISE! 
>>
>> Andrew
>
>

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[RBW] Re: A love letter to stainless steel water bottles

[Julian Westerhout]

Andrew, 

Did you buy the raw or the coated version. How are they noise wise on a 
bumpy road? I tried Kleen Kanteen a few years back and the clatter annoyed 
my a lot -- but I thimnk thatmight have been the less than optimal fit in 
my metal cages. 

Thanks for the review -- it's always interesting to hear about innovative 
new products. 

Julian Westerhout
Bloomington, IL 

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:12:48 PM UTC-5 Andrew Turner wrote:

> I came across this company a couple weeks ago and bought 2, and thought 
> I'd share.
> https://drinkbivo.com/   
>
> I've used both plastic (Purist) and stainless (Klean Kanteen) bottles in 
> the past but the Purist inevitably get funky, leaves an aftertaste despite 
> the hype, and will eventually get tossed. Kleans are great but not as 
> optimized for cycling as Bivo's product. I highly recommend trying them 
> out, especially if you haven't tried stainless. This came off really ady so 
> I apologize for that but plastic sucks...that being said, it looks like 
> some biodegradable options are popping up which is great. (But stainless 
> tastes so gd) OK I'M DONE, PROMISE! 
>
> Andrew

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[RBW] Jim 7 speed cassette on a triple

[sam . perez . 2002]

Any one know if a 7 speed 42 would work with a long cage silver triple? Or is 
it only compatible with a wide double?

Thanks 
Samuel 

Sent from my iPhone

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[RBW] Re: Hub Play

[S. Greco]

I recently came across this video 
 which is a good visual for 
how to fix for this issue:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuH80YRPFuM

On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 9:04:40 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

>
> My hub play issue is solved. After speaking with a wheelbuilder with 
> plenty of experience with these hubs, I learned my issue was caused by not 
> pressing firmly enough on the collar when adjusting the hub and tightening 
> the set screws. Fearful of over loading the bearings, I was reluctant to 
> put too much pressure on the collar, but it turns out I just wasn't getting 
> the adjusment tight enough. 
>
> I did confirm with WI that, yes, I should be pressing 'firmly' on the 
> collar. I was also told by the same rep that it is possible "to put too 
> much preload on the bearing" as the collar presses on the inner race of the 
> bearing. I guess this is where one has to feel their way into the best 
> adjustment. I was able to do this and my hub spins nicely with no play.
>
> I do like my White hub, but I must say I appreciate the manner of 
> adjustment on my Chris King hubs. I know- different bearing types 
> (apparently)- but the threaded adjuster just seems more elegant.
>
> Cheers,
> John
> On Tuesday, January 25, 2022 at 10:47:39 PM UTC+9 S. Greco wrote:
>
>> I have this same issue with one of my M15 hubs. Please post if you get a 
>> solid answer. 
>> My LBS recommended new bearings which I bought and installed, but it did 
>> not fix the issue.
>>
>> On Monday, January 24, 2022 at 9:33:29 PM UTC-5 Jeffrey Arita wrote:
>>
>>> John,
>>>
>>> As Garth advises, I too would reach out to White Industries.  I had a 
>>> question regarding a rear hub awhile ago and they were very helpful.  
>>> Speaking on the phone in a two-way is, IMHO, always better.  They might 
>>> need to eventually inspect the hub, so that might happen.  Either way, WI 
>>> has been outstanding, at least for me.  Good luck.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>> Claremont, CA
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 23, 2022 at 3:07:46 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Please pardon if this is not the forum for this and kindly redirect me 
 if possible. 

 The rear wheel of my Hunq finds a White M15 that is about 4 or so years 
 old at its center. Several years ago it developed a bit of play and I 
 haven't been able to solve the issue. I have adjusted it meticulously 
 according to White's specifications, but the play resurfaces after a few 
 kilometers of riding.

 I. have a. new set of bearings for the hub, but before I replace them I 
 thought I'd reach out to see if anyone might offer a simpler fix. 

 CHeers,
 John

>>>

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[RBW] FS: derailers - Rapid Rise & high normal vintage RDs, Paul Cantis, Racers, Canti Levers, Skewers, and various other parts

[J J]

Hi, folks. I'm in a spring cleaning mode and want to lighten my overflowing 
parts bin for builds and bikes I have dreamed about but that have not 
materialized. 

I'm super excited about Rivendell's low normal RD that's in development. I'm a 
huge fan of Rapid Rise and have exclusively run low normal RDs on my 
Hunqapillar for some time. They've always been great to set up, adjust, and 
maintain — in my experience, no better or worse than standard high normal RDs, 
and they index perfectly. Low normal shifting logic makes so much sense for my 
riding, with low gearing, heavy loads, and friction shifting, which I suspect 
is similar to the way so many on this forum ride. Alas, I have stockpiled too 
many Rapid Rise RDs, so I'm offering some here now, along with a few other 
parts. 

I’m looking to get what I put into the parts or slightly less — the important 
thing is for them to be actually used on bikes instead of sitting in storage. 
Prices do not include shipping. I accept Apple Pay/Cash, Venmo, and PayPal 
Friends and Family (with thanks to a fellow RBW list member for recently 
alerting me to the F payment process).

I had trouble attaching photos here, but I had put a bunch of photos on Google 
Drive 
 with 
file names that indicate what's what. Please send me a direct/private message 
by email if anything interests you. 

Thanks very much. 

Jim

-

Rear Derailers
Shimano Deore RD-M530 Rapid Rise (SGS, new old stock in original box, all 
black, made in Japan in 2005) $100
Shimano Deore XT RD-M760 Rapid Rise (SGS, new old stock in original box, silver 
with black cage, introduced in 2003) $225
Shimano Deore XT RD-M760 Rapid Rise (SGS, excellent used condition, silver with 
black cage, introduced in 2003) $75
Shimano Deore XT RD-M770 Rapid Rise (SGS, great mechanical and functional 
condition, some cosmetic scratches, made in Japan in 2007) — I'm running an 
M770 currently on my Hunq and it's fantastic. $85
Shimano XTR RD-M952 (SGS, high normal, not Rapid Rise, great mechanical 
condition, smooth, a workhorse, with scuffs and scratches, pulleys spin freely, 
springs are strong, one of the best mountain bike groups ever, 9 speed but 
works with 7, 8, and 10 speed shifters, from 2000) $45
Shimano XTR RD-M970 Rapid Rise (SGS, very rare new old stock in original box 
from 2008, legendary, the pinnacle of Shimano Rapid Rise in refinement, low 
weight, strength, smoothness, and precision, shifts awesomely even under load) 
$325
Shimano Deore RD-MT60 (SGS long cage, beautiful all-silver old school Shimano 
from 1987. High normal. Good used vintage cosmetic condition with scratches and 
scuffs, great mechanical condition. Bulletproof. Early MTB RD with 
slant-parallelogram design modeled on SunTour's design. Was originally 6 speed 
SIS, works with 7 and 8 speed.) $75
Shimano Deore XT RD-M735 (SGS long cage, very rare new old stock [no box], 
1992, beautiful, polished silver, adjustable spring tension in the 
parallelogram and at hanger bolt, sealed bearing pulleys. Some superficial 
storage scuffs, small black paint chips on the right side of body, some 
surfaces less shiny than others. Pulleys and springs in perfect condition. High 
normal. Has never been installed, 7, 8, 9 speed. SIS, STI, and friction 
compatible) $200 

Paul Component Brakes, Levers, Skewers
Paul Component Neo-Retro Cantilever brakes POLISH (new in box, with salmon Kool 
Stop brake pads, and crossover cable and cable carrier) $155 for 1 set, good 
for 1 wheel. 2 sets available. These are $174 per set on the Paul website.
Paul Component Touring Cantilever brakes POLISH (new in box, with salmon Kool 
Stop brake pads, and crossover cable and cable carrier) $155 for 1 set, good 
for 1 wheel. 2 sets available. These are $174 per set on the Paul website.
Paul Component Canti Lever short pull brake levers SILVER (not polish, new in 
box) $160 for a pair (these are $173 on the Paul website).
Paul Component Moon Unit SILVER straddle cable carriers for cantilever and 
centerpull brakes, 1 pair, new in box. $45 ($52 on Paul website)
Paul Component Quick Release Skewer BLACK & ORANGE 100mm (new in box) 2 skewers 
available $85 each ($108 on Paul website)
Paul Component Quick Release Skewer BLACK & ORANGE 130/135mm (new in box) 4 
skewers available $85 each ($108 on Paul website)
Paul Component Racer Center Pull Long Reach brake REAR SILVER (new in box with 
salmon Kool Stop brake pads, and crossover cable and cable carrier) rear only, 
no longer manufactured, super hard to find. $290

Other parts
Rene Herse Babyshoe Pass tires, 650B x 42 standard casing TAN sidewall (brand 
new, in sealed packaging, never mounted to wheels) $68 per tire. 2 tires 
available ($74 on Rene Herse website)
Shimano Deore XT HB-M737 front hub with skewer (new old stock, shiny silver 
with silver quick release skewer included, 32h, 100mm spacing, beautiful old 
school Shimano) $70
Jagwire 

Re: [RBW] A love letter to stainless steel water bottles

[Patrick Moore]

I just posted on the Boblist asking where to get 32-oz Nalgene bottles with
screw-on caps that fit bottle cages, but your post reminds me of stainless
steel and so I ask, why bother even with Nalgene plastic?

Does anyone know of a stainless steel bottle of at least 28 fl oz capacity
but better 32 fl oz capacity with a screw-on cap that fits bottle cages?

Note: I have ss insulated bottles for bike cages, what I am looking for is
ss bottles with screw-on caps, particularly caps that screw over the
opening to cover it instead of simply screwing into the opening like a plug
with threads.

The bottles need not be insulated or double wall (again, I've got plenty of
those).

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 4:12 PM Andrew Turner 
wrote:

> I came across this company a couple weeks ago and bought 2, and thought
> I'd share.
> https://drinkbivo.com/  
>
> I've used both plastic (Purist) and stainless (Klean Kanteen) bottles in
> the past but the Purist inevitably get funky, leaves an aftertaste despite
> the hype, and will eventually get tossed. Kleans are great but not as
> optimized for cycling as Bivo's product. I highly recommend trying them
> out, especially if you haven't tried stainless. This came off really ady so
> I apologize for that but plastic sucks...that being said, it looks like
> some biodegradable options are popping up which is great. (But stainless
> tastes so gd) OK I'M DONE, PROMISE!
>
> Andrew
>
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[RBW] A love letter to stainless steel water bottles

[Andrew Turner]

I came across this company a couple weeks ago and bought 2, and thought I'd 
share.
https://drinkbivo.com/   

I've used both plastic (Purist) and stainless (Klean Kanteen) bottles in 
the past but the Purist inevitably get funky, leaves an aftertaste despite 
the hype, and will eventually get tossed. Kleans are great but not as 
optimized for cycling as Bivo's product. I highly recommend trying them 
out, especially if you haven't tried stainless. This came off really ady so 
I apologize for that but plastic sucks...that being said, it looks like 
some biodegradable options are popping up which is great. (But stainless 
tastes so gd) OK I'M DONE, PROMISE! 

Andrew

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Re: [RBW] Photos and details of my 1995 Riv Road Standard build

[Adrianna T]

Wow your bike is gorgeous!!

The Elk Pass tires are really nice.

My primary concern about getting thinner wheels was that I live in San 
Francisco, where I've fallen way too many times into street car tracks 
especially when it's raining, so these feel like a good size. 

This is the lightest and nicest bike I've ever had. The classic look and 
feel suits me and the riding feels more 'my style'. I am excited to spend 
more time on it!

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 1:17:30 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Oh, and if you get flats on those Elk Passes, do consider using sealant 
> before switching to a heavier, more sluggish tire. I ride amongst goatheads 
> and with 1 to 1.5 fl oz of Orange Seal in my tubes (I use extra light -- 70 
> gram -- 650C X 21 or 26" X 1" -- the very lightest and skinniest) and I 
> rarely get a flat. 
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 2:11 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
>> Adrianna: Kudos on the nice result and for resurrecting a classic 
>> Rivendell road bike in an unusual size. When I first looked at the profile 
>> photo, before I read the build specs, I thought, "Those tires are too plump 
>> for a 700C Road Standard, and the build must be a 650B conversion." But you 
>> are using the Elk Passes; wonderful! I've been riding these since about 
>> 2015 -- they came onto the market in Fall 2015, IIRC; and they are, along 
>> with the totally different but also exquisitely riding 700C X 60 ultralight 
>> model Schwalbe Big Ones that I have on another bike, absolutely the nicest 
>> tires I've ridden.
>>
>> Jan Heine said that he had me in mind when he developed these, since for 
>> years I've been riding road bikes with 26" wheels (even tho' my "best" size 
>> road frame is 60 c-c).
>>
>> Mine measure 27-28 mm on admittedly very narrow 19 mm outside/13 mm 
>> inside rims, but pumped to 50-55 (I'm 170-175 just me) they are both plush 
>> and my gawd, are they fast!!! I just got back from a very nice spring ride 
>> on my 1999 custom Riv Road gofast with these tires, on a route I ride very 
>> often on several different bikes, and the gofast with the Elk Passes is 
>> just easier to pedal, on the flats, against the wind, up the hills.
>>
>> Gratuitous photo (yes, once again) of that 1999 gofast with the Elk Pass 
>> tires.
>>
>> I hope you enjoy the Rivendell and the Elk Pass tires.
>>
>> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 6:52 PM Adrianna T  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Back in January I came across a custom Riv Road Standard that I didn't 
>>> know anything about, other than that it was being sold by Joe Breeze (to 
>>> raise funds for his bicycling museum).
>>>
>>> A bunch of you here helped to spec it out and that helped me feel 
>>> confident enough to buy it.
>>>
>>> After several months, I finally have a bike!
>>>
>>> (The delay was largely around waiting for parts to show up, with this 
>>> supply chain and all).
>>>
>>> Here's what I ended up with. Photos attached.
>>>
>>> - Nitto Randonneur 25.4 400mm
>>> - Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled
>>> - Nitto Fillet FacePlater Quill stem
>>> - Dia-Compe ENE Down Tube Shifters
>>> - Rene Herse Double Crank 46-30 - 171mm
>>> - MKS Monarch pedals
>>> - Velo Orange 32 hole silver front and rear hubs
>>> Velocity A32 32 hole polished rims 
>>> - Shimano 105
>>> - Microshift 11-36
>>> - 26″ x 1.25″ Elk Pass Tires
>>> - Dura Ace 
>>>
>>> Thanks to Scenic Routes (community bike center in San Francisco), and 
>>> this community here, for the input and advice. It rides like a dream and I 
>>> am really, really happy with it.
>>>
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>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>
>>
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>> ---
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
>>
>
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Re: [RBW] Photos and details of my 1995 Riv Road Standard build

[Patrick Moore]

Oh, and if you get flats on those Elk Passes, do consider using sealant
before switching to a heavier, more sluggish tire. I ride amongst goatheads
and with 1 to 1.5 fl oz of Orange Seal in my tubes (I use extra light -- 70
gram -- 650C X 21 or 26" X 1" -- the very lightest and skinniest) and I
rarely get a flat.

On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 2:11 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Adrianna: Kudos on the nice result and for resurrecting a classic
> Rivendell road bike in an unusual size. When I first looked at the profile
> photo, before I read the build specs, I thought, "Those tires are too plump
> for a 700C Road Standard, and the build must be a 650B conversion." But you
> are using the Elk Passes; wonderful! I've been riding these since about
> 2015 -- they came onto the market in Fall 2015, IIRC; and they are, along
> with the totally different but also exquisitely riding 700C X 60 ultralight
> model Schwalbe Big Ones that I have on another bike, absolutely the nicest
> tires I've ridden.
>
> Jan Heine said that he had me in mind when he developed these, since for
> years I've been riding road bikes with 26" wheels (even tho' my "best" size
> road frame is 60 c-c).
>
> Mine measure 27-28 mm on admittedly very narrow 19 mm outside/13 mm inside
> rims, but pumped to 50-55 (I'm 170-175 just me) they are both plush and my
> gawd, are they fast!!! I just got back from a very nice spring ride on my
> 1999 custom Riv Road gofast with these tires, on a route I ride very often
> on several different bikes, and the gofast with the Elk Passes is just
> easier to pedal, on the flats, against the wind, up the hills.
>
> Gratuitous photo (yes, once again) of that 1999 gofast with the Elk Pass
> tires.
>
> I hope you enjoy the Rivendell and the Elk Pass tires.
>
> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 6:52 PM Adrianna T  wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Back in January I came across a custom Riv Road Standard that I didn't
>> know anything about, other than that it was being sold by Joe Breeze (to
>> raise funds for his bicycling museum).
>>
>> A bunch of you here helped to spec it out and that helped me feel
>> confident enough to buy it.
>>
>> After several months, I finally have a bike!
>>
>> (The delay was largely around waiting for parts to show up, with this
>> supply chain and all).
>>
>> Here's what I ended up with. Photos attached.
>>
>> - Nitto Randonneur 25.4 400mm
>> - Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled
>> - Nitto Fillet FacePlater Quill stem
>> - Dia-Compe ENE Down Tube Shifters
>> - Rene Herse Double Crank 46-30 - 171mm
>> - MKS Monarch pedals
>> - Velo Orange 32 hole silver front and rear hubs
>> Velocity A32 32 hole polished rims
>> - Shimano 105
>> - Microshift 11-36
>> - 26″ x 1.25″ Elk Pass Tires
>> - Dura Ace
>>
>> Thanks to Scenic Routes (community bike center in San Francisco), and
>> this community here, for the input and advice. It rides like a dream and I
>> am really, really happy with it.
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[RBW] Re: WTB/ISO: Carradice or other Saddle Bag

[dougP]

David:

I have a well used Baggins Hobo bag (8 liters) or a very lightly used 
Zimbale (11 liters) that is a knock-off of Carradice.  Let me know if 
either fits the bill, & can send photos.

dougP

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 6:37:12 PM UTC-7 Brendan Willard in SF wrote:

> I have a Carradice Barley that is for sale.  
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-carradice-barley-bag/7479242774.html
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 5:57:14 PM UTC-7 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> I have had a number of inquiries about the Baggins bag. I’m psyched 
>> because it is a great bag and has plenty of life left in it. It just isn’t 
>> one I use. I am happy to have it go to someone who will use it. Wally was 
>> first so I will start there. If he doesn’t go for it, I will follow-up in 
>> order of inquiry, 
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Val in Boulder CO
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 5:43:18 PM UTC-6 jamin orrall wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Valerie, I have been looking for a Baggins Adam for my 2011 A . Homer 
>>> Hilsen.  If David doesn't end up needing it and you would still like to 
>>> part with it please let me know! 
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Jamin Orrall
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:18:58 AM UTC-7 Valerie Yates wrote:
>>>
 I have a used Baggins bag, complete with original cardboard base and 
 stick, that I would be happy to pass along to an enthusiast for $40. It 
 might be too big for a kid’s bike. 

 It looks like this one: 
 https://www.sheldonbrown.com/interbike02/pages/riv-baggins-bag.html
 More info: https://www.roadbikerider.com/baggins-adam-saddlebag-d1/ 

 I am not sure if either of those are the exact same model as mine but 
 should be enough to give you the idea. I can take /share pictures of mine 
 later today if it interests you. Let me know if you’d like to know more. 

 Best,
 Val in Boulder CO




 On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 7:36:19 AM UTC-6 David Pulsipher wrote:

> Hi There,
>
> I'm looking for a saddle bag for my son's bike. He saw me putting mine 
> on my bike after a recent project, and admired mine. I decided I couldn't 
> say no to such a noble request. Not having a lot of luck on ebay - would 
> love to buy something pre-owned or under used.
>
> Let me know what you'd be willing to part with for an aspiring 
> rivendell enthusiast!
>
> Thanks.
>


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Re: [RBW] Re: That new rear derailer

[Jon Dukeman]

Not sure if this is the answer you are looking for.
I removed my 9 spd Altus and replaced it with a 9spd Shimano XT rapid rise
derailuer. I'm using Microshift 9 speed indexing thumb shifters that work
great with11- 36 cassette Front derailuer is friction. Silver 38×24 cranks
I did not have to do anything to the chain length.
I really like having front & rear shifters move the same way for high and
low gears.

On Wed, May 4, 2022, 11:23 AM Corwin  wrote:

> Not to belabor the point - but...
>
> My question was not "Will the new derailer index?". My question was "How
> many people that disdain rapid rise have actually tried it?" Based on my
> experience using drivetrain components not matched [or not quite matched]
> for each other, I am not likely to try indexing on a derailer not
> specifically designed to index. I do think rapid rise is unfairly maligned.
>
> Regards,
>
> Corwin
>
> On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 8:33:09 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> iamkeith followed up, saying: "I wish I could find the old Blahg or
>> Peeking through the Knothole or Reader article where they were tossing
>> around the idea of the reversible spring.  It seemed so genius and simple
>> to me.   Though I suspect you're right - it probably wasn't simple at all."
>>
>> I think the idea of a reversible action rear derailer would be super
>> cute.  As a feature it's a strong 'nice to have'.  The problem is that you
>> can't achieve that feature with a normal Cable+return spring mechanism
>> unless the derailer itself is made up of parts that can be disassembled and
>> reassembled.  If we made that feature (reversibility) a "MUST HAVE", then
>> the way to achieve it would be to ditch the traditional mechanism.  We'd
>> design a desmodrmic actuation method.  This means we actively move it in
>> both directions and there is no return spring.  Old french rear derailers,
>> made famous by Bicycle Quarterly had a continuous loop of cable actuating
>> the rear der.  You could take your 1950's Rene Herse and give it a SICK
>> Grant Pedersen flavor by reinstalling the cable in a figure 8: now it's
>> Rapid Rise Rene!  Alternatively, one could fashion a hydraulic actuation
>> method that pushes the RD in each direction.  It's trivial to insert a
>> control valve that flips this flow and makes it Rapid Rise Hydro!
>>
>> Either one would be fun projects.  I've got pretty copious design notes
>> on both of the above.
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 2:49:24 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 2:25:31 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>>
 iamkeith asked one question and then implied a second question by
 stating a wonder.
 The question:

>>>
>>> I don't always do as good of a Job as Bill at making the message-posting
>>> sequence as clear as Bill does, but my message - and rhetorical query of my
>>> own - was mostly meant as a response to Corwin's question.  My point was
>>> that I too suspect indexing might actually work for those who want it -
>>> though there's no way I could know for sure yet.   I was just hoping
>>> somebody might.   My other point was that I agree with Corwin saying that
>>> there's absolutely nothing to "hate" about rapid-rise.   But both options
>>> are still nice to have.  Horses for courses.
>>>
>>>
>>>  A convertible Rivendell RD would achieve what?  It would allow people
 who love Rivendell but hate RapidRise to spend extra money on a Rivendell
 RD, but flip it back to work the same as a cheap Shimano Altus that is
 already awesome.  I don't see any point in that.


>>> Well, to me, it would offer an option to continue getting what will be
>>> presumably HIGH-quality and presumably polished silver,  normal-rise
>>> derailleurs - as opposed to
>>> perfectly-functional-but-cheap-and-not-attractive Altus derailleurs - which
>>> could help me keep my old (and new) bikes running with my preferred 7, 8
>>> and 9 speed drivetrains.  I've long since tired of cruising ebay, looking
>>> for obsolete parts, but I like what I like.  It would be wonderful to have
>>> a new and in-productcion option available.  And "yes," supporting Riv would
>>> just makes it that much better.  Not saying I won't buy one or more anyway
>>> - just daydreaming out loud.
>>>
>>> I wish I could find the old Blahg or Peeking through the Knothole or
>>> Reader article where they were tossing around the idea of the reversible
>>> spring.  It seemed so genius and simple to me.   Though I suspect you're
>>> right - it probably wasn't simple at all.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
 Bill Lindsay
 El Cerrito, CA



 On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 12:30:24 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

> Is there a reason this derailleur couldn't be used with index shifters
> if someone was so inclined?  Grant said they copied the parallelogram
> geometry from Shimano.  I assumed that meant it had a 1.66:1 cable pull
> ratio, so any index shifter up through 

[RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Still working out the details on the 68 Rambouillet, but here's it before I 
put a S84 post, B68 (raised the stem a bit, but my sit bones are wide 
enough to get down with the width), and a new 11-28 cassette on this 
morning. https://photos.app.goo.gl/PgRmHczNNTkrGCra7
I'd like to thank Matthew for all the work in compiling these sale lists. 
Almost spent $600 on a Raleigh that only fit 28's!! 
Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!
-Kai

On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 1:44:44 PM UTC-4 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Quickbeam: 62cm
> 1800
> Jersey Shore, NJ
>
> https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/d/allenhurst-rivendell-quickbeam/7459831181.html
>
>
> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 62cm
> 1600
> Stroudsburg, PA
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/255444602628
>
> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 48cm
> 659 / 1500 reserve
> Long Beach, CA
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294884353828
>
> Sam Hillborne F/F/HS: 58cm
> 1300
> Oakland, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/oakland-rivendell-sam-hillborne-58-cm/7458838156.html
>
>
> A. Homer Hilsen F/F/HS: 58cm
> 1700
> Los Angeles, CA
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/294890909002
>
> A. Homer Hilsen: 59cm
> 2785
> San Clemente, CA
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/175163962992
>
> A. Homer Hilsen: 59cm
> 2800
> West Los Angeles, CA
>
> https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/bik/d/los-angeles-rivendell-bicycle-works/7455804710.html
>
>
> Road Standard F/F: 54cm
> 1999
> Louisville, KY
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/194937971001
>
> Romulus: 57cm
> 2250
> Thousand Oaks, CA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1004533483793238
>
>
> Rambouillet: 60cm
> 1400
> Kalamazoo, MI
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/379471227101586
>
> Rambouillet: 68cm
> 600
> Nashville, TN
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/496533448593477
>
>
> Frank Jones Sr.: 57cm
> 2200
> Portland, OR
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/185245621839
>
>
> Bleriot: 61cm
> 2300
> Atlanta, GA
>
> https://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/bik/d/decatur-rivendell-bleriot-650b/7461829652.html
>
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
> 2000
> Indianapolis, IN
>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/bik/d/indianapolis-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7453916725.html
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L: 59cm
> 2500
> Iowa City, IA
>
> https://iowacity.craigslist.org/bik/d/iowa-city-rivendell-clem-smith-jr-59cm/7464257188.html
>
> Clem Smith Jr. L F/F/HS: 64cm
> 999
> Annandale, VA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/346785007277297
>
> Clem Smith Jr. Clementine: 45cm
> 2000
> Brentwood, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/knightsen-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7464241455.html
>
> Clem Smith Jr.: 52cm
> 2000
> SFBA, CA
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/dearing-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7464241042.html
>
> Clem Smith Jr.: 60cm
> 2400
> Livermore, CA
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/633243111274221
>
>
> Platypus: 60cm
> 2100
> Phoenix, AZ
>
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/bik/d/san-tan-valley-rivendell-lugged-bicycle/7454753122.html

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[RBW] Re: That new rear derailer

[Corwin]

Not to belabor the point - but...

My question was not "Will the new derailer index?". My question was "How 
many people that disdain rapid rise have actually tried it?" Based on my 
experience using drivetrain components not matched [or not quite matched] 
for each other, I am not likely to try indexing on a derailer not 
specifically designed to index. I do think rapid rise is unfairly maligned.

Regards,

Corwin

On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 8:33:09 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> iamkeith followed up, saying: "I wish I could find the old Blahg or 
> Peeking through the Knothole or Reader article where they were tossing 
> around the idea of the reversible spring.  It seemed so genius and simple 
> to me.   Though I suspect you're right - it probably wasn't simple at all."
>
> I think the idea of a reversible action rear derailer would be super 
> cute.  As a feature it's a strong 'nice to have'.  The problem is that you 
> can't achieve that feature with a normal Cable+return spring mechanism 
> unless the derailer itself is made up of parts that can be disassembled and 
> reassembled.  If we made that feature (reversibility) a "MUST HAVE", then 
> the way to achieve it would be to ditch the traditional mechanism.  We'd 
> design a desmodrmic actuation method.  This means we actively move it in 
> both directions and there is no return spring.  Old french rear derailers, 
> made famous by Bicycle Quarterly had a continuous loop of cable actuating 
> the rear der.  You could take your 1950's Rene Herse and give it a SICK 
> Grant Pedersen flavor by reinstalling the cable in a figure 8: now it's 
> Rapid Rise Rene!  Alternatively, one could fashion a hydraulic actuation 
> method that pushes the RD in each direction.  It's trivial to insert a 
> control valve that flips this flow and makes it Rapid Rise Hydro!  
>
> Either one would be fun projects.  I've got pretty copious design notes on 
> both of the above.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA 
>
> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 2:49:24 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>
>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 2:25:31 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> iamkeith asked one question and then implied a second question by 
>>> stating a wonder.
>>> The question:
>>>
>>
>> I don't always do as good of a Job as Bill at making the message-posting 
>> sequence as clear as Bill does, but my message - and rhetorical query of my 
>> own - was mostly meant as a response to Corwin's question.  My point was 
>> that I too suspect indexing might actually work for those who want it - 
>> though there's no way I could know for sure yet.   I was just hoping 
>> somebody might.   My other point was that I agree with Corwin saying that 
>> there's absolutely nothing to "hate" about rapid-rise.   But both options 
>> are still nice to have.  Horses for courses.
>>
>>
>>  A convertible Rivendell RD would achieve what?  It would allow people 
>>> who love Rivendell but hate RapidRise to spend extra money on a Rivendell 
>>> RD, but flip it back to work the same as a cheap Shimano Altus that is 
>>> already awesome.  I don't see any point in that.  
>>>
>>>
>> Well, to me, it would offer an option to continue getting what will be 
>> presumably HIGH-quality and presumably polished silver,  normal-rise 
>> derailleurs - as opposed to 
>> perfectly-functional-but-cheap-and-not-attractive Altus derailleurs - which 
>> could help me keep my old (and new) bikes running with my preferred 7, 8 
>> and 9 speed drivetrains.  I've long since tired of cruising ebay, looking 
>> for obsolete parts, but I like what I like.  It would be wonderful to have 
>> a new and in-productcion option available.  And "yes," supporting Riv would 
>> just makes it that much better.  Not saying I won't buy one or more anyway 
>> - just daydreaming out loud.
>>
>> I wish I could find the old Blahg or Peeking through the Knothole or 
>> Reader article where they were tossing around the idea of the reversible 
>> spring.  It seemed so genius and simple to me.   Though I suspect you're 
>> right - it probably wasn't simple at all.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 12:30:24 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 Is there a reason this derailleur couldn't be used with index shifters 
 if someone was so inclined?  Grant said they copied the parallelogram 
 geometry from Shimano.  I assumed that meant it had a 1.66:1 cable pull 
 ratio, so any index shifter up through 9 speed, with a corresponding 
 number 
 of detents, should work.  The only issue should be that the gear numbers 
 on 
 the shifter will be backwards.

 What I keep wondering - and nobody ever answers - is what happened to 
 the original idea of making these so that the spring could be moved to the 
 opposite corners of the parallelogram, so that it could function in EITHER 
 a high-normal or low-normal mode.  I hope they're doing that.   I don't 
 dis-like rapid 

Re: [RBW] Re: Mid-80 steel frames that could be Roadini standins

[Eric Marth]

Just finished reading through and congrats, yankeebird, on nailing down a 
bike. 

I left a note in the For Sale thread but will repeat the request here: 
Please share some pics! I could use some soothing after the trauma of the 
mismatched tires, only rear fender and those bars

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 7:34:26 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:

> Nice score and that Salsa stem is *chef’s kiss*
>
> On May 3, 2022, at 16:00, Yankeebird  wrote:
>
> Ok, resurrecting this thread-
>
>
> I thought about this long and hard over the winter, such a great convo, 
> such great tidbits. But I realized I really wanted was a Rambouillet- Riv, 
> road oriented, cheaper than a new Roadini, so I decided to sit and wait. 
> Today, thanks to this group and the For Sale thread I found a 62cm Ram 
> 90min from home and it's now MINE at an incredibly reasonable price. 
> Absolutely wonderful, solves my quest almost perfectly. I need to source 
> some parts and do a quasi-build, more later!
>
> On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 2:38:54 AM UTC-4 Evan E. wrote:
>
>> Yankeebird,
>>
>> For all I know, you’ve found a bike by now. But in case you haven’t, how 
>> about a minty Schwinn, built by Panasonic, circa 1984?
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-1984-schwinn-super-sport/7400869490.html
>>
>> Not my bike. I’m just an enabler.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Eric Marth]

Congrats, Yankeebird, that sounds like a score. Please share some pics once 
you have it all tuned up!

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 6:56:28 PM UTC-4 Yankeebird wrote:

> I got the NH Ram! The handlebars were just a test platform for another 
> project, the Nitto drops are on it know. The write-up was to separate the 
> wheat from the chaff. Thank you Matt for posting the listing! I've secretly 
> wanted one of these for a long, long time. It's got a sheep on it! What 
> more could I ask for. 
>
> Seller was really finastkind. Lots of interesting beautiful steel bicycles.
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 4:38:58 PM UTC-4 Jingy wrote:
>
>> I saw those brake levers  mounted on the bar ends and thought Waaaht?
>> Jim In Mpls
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 1:45 PM Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>>> The NH Ram setup, pics and description are freaking me out, man! It's so 
>>> weird! 
>>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 1:41:21 PM UTC-4 Adam wrote:
>>>
 If the seller of the Chicago Clem is on this list, feel free to reach 
 out directly and skip the ebay fees. I'm in Chicago and interested.

 On Monday, May 2, 2022 at 6:31:15 PM UTC-5 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Clem Smith H 
> 59cm 
> 1200 
> Chicago, IL 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/304470023651 
>
>
> Rambouillet 
> (contact seller for size) 
> 603 
> New Hampshire 
>
> https://nh.craigslist.org/bik/d/rindge-rivendell-rambouillet-randonneur/7478359535.html
>  
>
>
> Romulus (with cantis!) 
> 57cm 
> 1500 
> Seattle, WA 
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/seattle-rivendell-romulus-57cm/7478039515.html

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[RBW] Re: Caught on Film

[Jared Wilson]

Laing,

The Volkswagen is from 1958, so post barndoor (3/50 thru 3/55) but still 
"early" but most standards.

Thanks for taking notice.

Jared

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 8:35:52 AM UTC-7 Miles wrote:

> Really good stuff Ariel! Lets get some rides in soon!
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 1:24:05 AM UTC-7 realgo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Been meaning to post some pictures of our rides on film from the last 
>> year. Our first year living and running our own business in San Luis Obispo 
>> has been busy and hasn't awarded as much time to ride as we would like, but 
>> I am always thankful when we do make it out.
>>
>> Hope everyone is having a good week! I'd love to see some of your film 
>> pictures from rides!
>>
>> (All photos are taken on my Chinon 3001, a point and shoot SLR from the 
>> late 1980s/early 1990s). 
>>
>> [image: 85730014.jpeg]
>> Spring, 2021. Modesto, California. This one is from Easter weekend 2021 
>> when we picked up the Platy at Riv HQ! We waited patiently until we got the 
>> green light to come pick it up, and as always had such a nice time seeing 
>> our Riv employee friends! 
>>
>> [image: 04180001.jpeg]
>> Autumn, 2021. Berkeley, California. The last photo of Jared's Hunq before 
>> he and Alex stripped down their bikes and traded frames. 
>> [image: 04180004.jpeg]
>> The next morning before the mixte family went on their first ride.
>> [image: 04180009.jpeg]
>> First ride to the GF bakery in Oakland with the Cheviot! Jared is in a 
>> position I often do when bombing hills. It makes me feel like I'm flying 
>> and plays into the whimsical nature of riding a Rivendell. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Photos and details of my 1995 Riv Road Standard build

[JAS]

It's a beauty, Adriana!  I love the color scheme...like the flags of 
Ukraine and Sweden.  

Congratulations.  May it bring you a lifetime of joy!

#RivSisters,
 Joyce

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 9:15:44 AM UTC-7 Greg J wrote:

> Congrats, Adriana!  Beautiful color on that bike, and a nice sensible 
> build!  
>
> best, Greg/Oakland
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:15:14 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:
>
>> Oh...I'm glad it worked out for you and you like the bike! I love the 
>> splash of yellow; it's so cheerful. Matches the buttery smooth ride of 
>> those early Rivendells 
>>
>> Hope you have many happy miles on it. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 7:52:32 PM UTC-5 Adrianna T wrote:
>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Back in January I came across a custom Riv Road Standard that I didn't 
>>> know anything about, other than that it was being sold by Joe Breeze (to 
>>> raise funds for his bicycling museum).
>>>
>>> A bunch of you here helped to spec it out and that helped me feel 
>>> confident enough to buy it.
>>>
>>> After several months, I finally have a bike!
>>>
>>> (The delay was largely around waiting for parts to show up, with this 
>>> supply chain and all).
>>>
>>> Here's what I ended up with. Photos attached.
>>>
>>> - Nitto Randonneur 25.4 400mm
>>> - Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled
>>> - Nitto Fillet FacePlater Quill stem
>>> - Dia-Compe ENE Down Tube Shifters
>>> - Rene Herse Double Crank 46-30 - 171mm
>>> - MKS Monarch pedals
>>> - Velo Orange 32 hole silver front and rear hubs
>>> Velocity A32 32 hole polished rims 
>>> - Shimano 105
>>> - Microshift 11-36
>>> - 26″ x 1.25″ Elk Pass Tires
>>> - Dura Ace 
>>>
>>> Thanks to Scenic Routes (community bike center in San Francisco), and 
>>> this community here, for the input and advice. It rides like a dream and I 
>>> am really, really happy with it.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Photos and details of my 1995 Riv Road Standard build

[Greg J]

Congrats, Adriana!  Beautiful color on that bike, and a nice sensible 
build!  

best, Greg/Oakland

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 5:15:14 AM UTC-7 Ryan wrote:

> Oh...I'm glad it worked out for you and you like the bike! I love the 
> splash of yellow; it's so cheerful. Matches the buttery smooth ride of 
> those early Rivendells 
>
> Hope you have many happy miles on it. 
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 7:52:32 PM UTC-5 Adrianna T wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Back in January I came across a custom Riv Road Standard that I didn't 
>> know anything about, other than that it was being sold by Joe Breeze (to 
>> raise funds for his bicycling museum).
>>
>> A bunch of you here helped to spec it out and that helped me feel 
>> confident enough to buy it.
>>
>> After several months, I finally have a bike!
>>
>> (The delay was largely around waiting for parts to show up, with this 
>> supply chain and all).
>>
>> Here's what I ended up with. Photos attached.
>>
>> - Nitto Randonneur 25.4 400mm
>> - Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled
>> - Nitto Fillet FacePlater Quill stem
>> - Dia-Compe ENE Down Tube Shifters
>> - Rene Herse Double Crank 46-30 - 171mm
>> - MKS Monarch pedals
>> - Velo Orange 32 hole silver front and rear hubs
>> Velocity A32 32 hole polished rims 
>> - Shimano 105
>> - Microshift 11-36
>> - 26″ x 1.25″ Elk Pass Tires
>> - Dura Ace 
>>
>> Thanks to Scenic Routes (community bike center in San Francisco), and 
>> this community here, for the input and advice. It rides like a dream and I 
>> am really, really happy with it.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Caught on Film

[Miles]

Really good stuff Ariel! Lets get some rides in soon!

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 1:24:05 AM UTC-7 realgo...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> Hey all,
>
> Been meaning to post some pictures of our rides on film from the last 
> year. Our first year living and running our own business in San Luis Obispo 
> has been busy and hasn't awarded as much time to ride as we would like, but 
> I am always thankful when we do make it out.
>
> Hope everyone is having a good week! I'd love to see some of your film 
> pictures from rides!
>
> (All photos are taken on my Chinon 3001, a point and shoot SLR from the 
> late 1980s/early 1990s). 
>
> [image: 85730014.jpeg]
> Spring, 2021. Modesto, California. This one is from Easter weekend 2021 
> when we picked up the Platy at Riv HQ! We waited patiently until we got the 
> green light to come pick it up, and as always had such a nice time seeing 
> our Riv employee friends! 
>
> [image: 04180001.jpeg]
> Autumn, 2021. Berkeley, California. The last photo of Jared's Hunq before 
> he and Alex stripped down their bikes and traded frames. 
> [image: 04180004.jpeg]
> The next morning before the mixte family went on their first ride.
> [image: 04180009.jpeg]
> First ride to the GF bakery in Oakland with the Cheviot! Jared is in a 
> position I often do when bombing hills. It makes me feel like I'm flying 
> and plays into the whimsical nature of riding a Rivendell. 
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: NEW Honjo H80N fenders with struts.

[Igor]

SOLD

On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 12:52:10 PM UTC-4 Igor wrote:

> https://imgur.com/a/vZA9grU
>
> H80N fenders with u-struts. No other hardware. $90 shipped
>
> Thanks,
> igor
> ann arbor, mi
>

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[RBW] Re: Hillibikes are so close!

[Ryan Frahm]

Wally, sounds like what my Susie is going to be! The Tumbleweed rack should 
work out perfect! I have mounted one to a standard rear spaced bike as well 
as a new boost rear. They are a great rack. I just loaned mine to my cousin 
for the Colorado trail this summer or I’d be using it. Still might if he 
gives it back! I had the shorter version and it cleared 29x3 on a few 
different bikes so that is probably the size to go for. 

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 7:06:57 AM UTC-7 Ryan Frahm wrote:

> Valerie, that is exciting but definitely doesn’t help the wait! Haha. 
>
> My Susie will be replacing my current bike. I only build one at a time in 
> hopes to find one that I really enjoy more than any other. I have a feeling 
> the Susie will be a keeper though. I have a Pass and Stow rack for the 
> front that I hope plays nice with the steering. I do typically prefer a 
> front load and just a saddle bag out back when needed. 
>
> I’ve been looking at the Erlen rack from Ocean Air Cycles or a Nitto R-14 
> or bag support for the rear. I have a field tan Fab’s chest on the way and 
> I almost just went for the Pec Deck “rack”, we’ll see. 
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:52:08 AM UTC-7 wallye...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> *Is anyone planning to tour with theirs?*
>> Yep, my Gus will be a commuter/grocery-getter/bikepacker ride -the 
>> guS-UV.   I'm planning on Tumbleweed racks for it. The TW racks are 
>> designed around modern wider hubs/frames, but I think it'll squeeze in OK 
>> to mount on a Gus.  I've seen a pic of a T-tack on a Gus, just need to find 
>> it again.
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:51:44 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>>
>>> Just to add to your excitement, I have a Gus demo purchased complete 
>>> from Riv from the first round and I love it.  In my garage, it looks so 
>>> huge and stout that it can lead me to doubt its role in my life. But then I 
>>> ride it and it is such a fun bike to ride. It is surprisingly comfortable 
>>> and pleasant going uphill and truly fantastic -stable, intuitive, flowy - 
>>> going downhill, paved or not. There is one steep downhill where my other 
>>> bikes leave me feeling somewhat apprehensive about going too fast but I can 
>>> sail down it confidently on the Gus.  It has expanded my comfort zone. I 
>>> find myself thinking up routes to do with it.
>>>
>>> Is anyone planning to tour with theirs? I wonder which racks would fit 
>>> well on it. 
>>>
>>> Val in Boulder, CO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 10:35:13 AM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Very excited to see these builds come together! I was also hoping for 
 an update just to know they got to port at least. But I guess we should 
 have an update by the end of he week, maybe… I’m moving in 5 weeks and I 
 was hoping to get a nice couple night camp trip in with it before then! 
 Getting a bit close though so we’ll see. 

 On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:18:16 PM UTC-7 Erik wrote:

> That's one of the bars I picked up as a possibility for the Gus.  I 
> have the shifters and levers on it and installed it on the Paul Boxcar 
> stem 
> I picked up.  It's a really beautiful bar.  But I'll have to wait and see 
> which bar wins out.  
>
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 7:32:46 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>
>>
>> I had a thread about handlebar choice a few months ago, then 
>> Rivendell without any fanfare slipped a new Nitto bar into their lineup 
>> which basically filled all of my criteria. The new Bull bar seems to 
>> have 
>> gone under the radar, (it didn't immediately sell out) and is going to 
>> be 
>> perfect for my slightly too big XL Susie! I am going to wait until I 
>> have 
>> the bike in front of me to try all the options and see which one wins.
>> I am excited to see everyone else's builds, Some nice sounding parts 
>> lists going on here.
>> Was hoping for an update in today's email too and was a little 
>> disappointed.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Hillibikes are so close!

[Ryan Frahm]

Valerie, that is exciting but definitely doesn’t help the wait! Haha. 

My Susie will be replacing my current bike. I only build one at a time in 
hopes to find one that I really enjoy more than any other. I have a feeling 
the Susie will be a keeper though. I have a Pass and Stow rack for the 
front that I hope plays nice with the steering. I do typically prefer a 
front load and just a saddle bag out back when needed. 

I’ve been looking at the Erlen rack from Ocean Air Cycles or a Nitto R-14 
or bag support for the rear. I have a field tan Fab’s chest on the way and 
I almost just went for the Pec Deck “rack”, we’ll see. 

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:52:08 AM UTC-7 wallye...@gmail.com wrote:

> *Is anyone planning to tour with theirs?*
> Yep, my Gus will be a commuter/grocery-getter/bikepacker ride -the 
> guS-UV.   I'm planning on Tumbleweed racks for it. The TW racks are 
> designed around modern wider hubs/frames, but I think it'll squeeze in OK 
> to mount on a Gus.  I've seen a pic of a T-tack on a Gus, just need to find 
> it again.
>
>
> On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:51:44 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:
>
>> Just to add to your excitement, I have a Gus demo purchased complete from 
>> Riv from the first round and I love it.  In my garage, it looks so huge and 
>> stout that it can lead me to doubt its role in my life. But then I ride it 
>> and it is such a fun bike to ride. It is surprisingly comfortable and 
>> pleasant going uphill and truly fantastic -stable, intuitive, flowy - going 
>> downhill, paved or not. There is one steep downhill where my other bikes 
>> leave me feeling somewhat apprehensive about going too fast but I can sail 
>> down it confidently on the Gus.  It has expanded my comfort zone. I find 
>> myself thinking up routes to do with it.
>>
>> Is anyone planning to tour with theirs? I wonder which racks would fit 
>> well on it. 
>>
>> Val in Boulder, CO
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 10:35:13 AM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Very excited to see these builds come together! I was also hoping for an 
>>> update just to know they got to port at least. But I guess we should have 
>>> an update by the end of he week, maybe… I’m moving in 5 weeks and I was 
>>> hoping to get a nice couple night camp trip in with it before then! Getting 
>>> a bit close though so we’ll see. 
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:18:16 PM UTC-7 Erik wrote:
>>>
 That's one of the bars I picked up as a possibility for the Gus.  I 
 have the shifters and levers on it and installed it on the Paul Boxcar 
 stem 
 I picked up.  It's a really beautiful bar.  But I'll have to wait and see 
 which bar wins out.  

 On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 7:32:46 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:

>
> I had a thread about handlebar choice a few months ago, then Rivendell 
> without any fanfare slipped a new Nitto bar into their lineup which 
> basically filled all of my criteria. The new Bull bar seems to have gone 
> under the radar, (it didn't immediately sell out) and is going to be 
> perfect for my slightly too big XL Susie! I am going to wait until I have 
> the bike in front of me to try all the options and see which one wins.
> I am excited to see everyone else's builds, Some nice sounding parts 
> lists going on here.
> Was hoping for an update in today's email too and was a little 
> disappointed.
>


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[RBW] Re: Caught on Film

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

This was such a fun thread. Thanks so much for the photos and stories. 
That’s the winning combination. I love that you are a mixte family!
#RivSisters,
Leah

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:40:41 AM UTC-4 realgo...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> [image: 77960014.jpeg]
> Spring, 2022. Tried to ride through the construction zone shortcut after 
> the heavy spring rains and the Platypus sunk right in! I didn't anticipate 
> it at all and pulled the bike (and myself) out of the mud and walked 
> around. I couldn't go the high route that Jared did to avoid all mud due to 
> my clumsiness, so I would up in the mud. All in good fun. San Luis Obispo, 
> California.
>
> [image: 77960016.jpeg]
>
> We made it. 
>
> [image: 38250033.jpeg]
> Spring, 2022. Winter citrus still flourishing. Downtown San Luis Obispo, 
> California. 
>
>
> This year I am looking forward to the tandem rides on our wedding gift to 
> ourselves, an orange Hubba Hubba (still at Riv HQ). I'd love to see other 
> Rivs on film! What cameras are members bringing on rides?
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 1:38:30 AM UTC-7 Ariel Jiana Fenster wrote:
>
>> [image: 77960028.jpeg]
>> Last ride of 2021 (except not really because we took another ride later 
>> that night!) New Year's Eve, 2021. Edna Valley, California.
>>
>> [image: 77960030.jpeg]
>> Mid ride water break. 
>>
>> [image: 77960033.jpeg]
>> Our way is my way.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Caught on Film

[lconley]

Is that a very early barndoor Type II?

Laing

On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 4:30:58 AM UTC-4 realgo...@gmail.com wrote:

> [image: 04180019.jpeg]
> Autumn/Early winter 2021, San Luis Obispo. Riding through the construction 
> zone Sunday shortcut. 
> [image: 04180017.jpeg]
>
> I like how to green of the Cheviot looked with the green hills beyond. 
> Such a lovely color for a bike. 
>
> [image: 04180030.jpeg]
> Laguna Lake Park, San Luis Obispo, California. Same ride.
>
> [image: 04180026.jpeg]
> This camera has a great self timer function, if we are lucky enough to 
> stumble across a fencepost or sign to set the camera on that has decent 
> height so that we may both make the shot. I think that this one came out 
> pretty well.
>
> [image: 38250030.jpeg]
>
> Winter 2021 at the shop with the babes. San Luis Obispo, California.
>
>
> On Wednesday, May 4, 2022 at 1:24:05 AM UTC-7 Ariel Jiana Fenster wrote:
>
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Been meaning to post some pictures of our rides on film from the last 
>> year. Our first year living and running our own business in San Luis Obispo 
>> has been busy and hasn't awarded as much time to ride as we would like, but 
>> I am always thankful when we do make it out.
>>
>> Hope everyone is having a good week! I'd love to see some of your film 
>> pictures from rides!
>>
>> (All photos are taken on my Chinon 3001, a point and shoot SLR from the 
>> late 1980s/early 1990s). 
>>
>> [image: 85730014.jpeg]
>> Spring, 2021. Modesto, California. This one is from Easter weekend 2021 
>> when we picked up the Platy at Riv HQ! We waited patiently until we got the 
>> green light to come pick it up, and as always had such a nice time seeing 
>> our Riv employee friends! 
>>
>> [image: 04180001.jpeg]
>> Autumn, 2021. Berkeley, California. The last photo of Jared's Hunq before 
>> he and Alex stripped down their bikes and traded frames. 
>> [image: 04180004.jpeg]
>> The next morning before the mixte family went on their first ride.
>> [image: 04180009.jpeg]
>> First ride to the GF bakery in Oakland with the Cheviot! Jared is in a 
>> position I often do when bombing hills. It makes me feel like I'm flying 
>> and plays into the whimsical nature of riding a Rivendell. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Photos and details of my 1995 Riv Road Standard build

[Ryan]

Oh...I'm glad it worked out for you and you like the bike! I love the 
splash of yellow; it's so cheerful. Matches the buttery smooth ride of 
those early Rivendells 

Hope you have many happy miles on it. 

On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 7:52:32 PM UTC-5 Adrianna T wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Back in January I came across a custom Riv Road Standard that I didn't 
> know anything about, other than that it was being sold by Joe Breeze (to 
> raise funds for his bicycling museum).
>
> A bunch of you here helped to spec it out and that helped me feel 
> confident enough to buy it.
>
> After several months, I finally have a bike!
>
> (The delay was largely around waiting for parts to show up, with this 
> supply chain and all).
>
> Here's what I ended up with. Photos attached.
>
> - Nitto Randonneur 25.4 400mm
> - Gran Compe 202 Non Aero Brake Levers, Drilled
> - Nitto Fillet FacePlater Quill stem
> - Dia-Compe ENE Down Tube Shifters
> - Rene Herse Double Crank 46-30 - 171mm
> - MKS Monarch pedals
> - Velo Orange 32 hole silver front and rear hubs
> Velocity A32 32 hole polished rims 
> - Shimano 105
> - Microshift 11-36
> - 26″ x 1.25″ Elk Pass Tires
> - Dura Ace 
>
> Thanks to Scenic Routes (community bike center in San Francisco), and this 
> community here, for the input and advice. It rides like a dream and I am 
> really, really happy with it.
>

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[RBW] Re: Hillibikes are so close!

[Wally Estrella]

*Is anyone planning to tour with theirs?*
Yep, my Gus will be a commuter/grocery-getter/bikepacker ride -the guS-UV.  
 I'm planning on Tumbleweed racks for it. The TW racks are designed around 
modern wider hubs/frames, but I think it'll squeeze in OK to mount on a 
Gus.  I've seen a pic of a T-tack on a Gus, just need to find it again.


On Tuesday, May 3, 2022 at 8:51:44 PM UTC-4 Valerie Yates wrote:

> Just to add to your excitement, I have a Gus demo purchased complete from 
> Riv from the first round and I love it.  In my garage, it looks so huge and 
> stout that it can lead me to doubt its role in my life. But then I ride it 
> and it is such a fun bike to ride. It is surprisingly comfortable and 
> pleasant going uphill and truly fantastic -stable, intuitive, flowy - going 
> downhill, paved or not. There is one steep downhill where my other bikes 
> leave me feeling somewhat apprehensive about going too fast but I can sail 
> down it confidently on the Gus.  It has expanded my comfort zone. I find 
> myself thinking up routes to do with it.
>
> Is anyone planning to tour with theirs? I wonder which racks would fit 
> well on it. 
>
> Val in Boulder, CO
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 1, 2022 at 10:35:13 AM UTC-6 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Very excited to see these builds come together! I was also hoping for an 
>> update just to know they got to port at least. But I guess we should have 
>> an update by the end of he week, maybe… I’m moving in 5 weeks and I was 
>> hoping to get a nice couple night camp trip in with it before then! Getting 
>> a bit close though so we’ll see. 
>>
>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:18:16 PM UTC-7 Erik wrote:
>>
>>> That's one of the bars I picked up as a possibility for the Gus.  I have 
>>> the shifters and levers on it and installed it on the Paul Boxcar stem I 
>>> picked up.  It's a really beautiful bar.  But I'll have to wait and see 
>>> which bar wins out.  
>>>
>>> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 7:32:46 PM UTC-7 brendonoid wrote:
>>>

 I had a thread about handlebar choice a few months ago, then Rivendell 
 without any fanfare slipped a new Nitto bar into their lineup which 
 basically filled all of my criteria. The new Bull bar seems to have gone 
 under the radar, (it didn't immediately sell out) and is going to be 
 perfect for my slightly too big XL Susie! I am going to wait until I have 
 the bike in front of me to try all the options and see which one wins.
 I am excited to see everyone else's builds, Some nice sounding parts 
 lists going on here.
 Was hoping for an update in today's email too and was a little 
 disappointed.

>>>

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