Re: [RBW] Re: long wheelbase, Hillibikes + tray racks

[JAS]

Joe, 
Oh, that hurts!  I'm so sorry about your rack.  Thank you for the advice.  
Fortunately, I don't have to worry about L.A., but it's good to be aware a 
determined thief can get through the lock.

Joyce

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:34:48 PM UTC-7 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> I had a 1up rack but it got stolen! The thieves must have had the special 
> allen key. It was locked with the key lock that 1up sells but they got 
> through that no problem. Don’t leave your 1up racks on your car in Los 
> Angeles!
>
> It would have fit my new Susie no problem. 
>
> Joe
>
> On Jun 20, 2022, at 12:27 PM, JAS  wrote:
>
> I have a 1UP rack and my bikes fit fine.  
>
>Clem size 52 cm with a 117cm wheelbase (tires are 650b x 48)
>Platypus size 55 cm with a 122 cm wheelbase (tires are 700x42)
>
> I did my best to measure the wheelbase of each bike, but they might be 
> slightly off by a cm or so.
>
> --Joyce
>
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:00:44 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> My apologies if this has been asked before, but has anyone had any 
>> success carrying their Gus / Susie / Clem / Appaloosa / Platy on a 
>> hitch-mounted tray rack such as the Kuat NV 2.0 (my rack)? I'm about to 
>> take ownership of a Gus very soon, and I'm wondering if there's any chance 
>> it'll work somehow. Looking at the numbers, it doesn't seem like these 
>> bikes would possibly fit, as the rear wheel would stick out too far for the 
>> retaining straps to effectively grab the rear wheel.
>>
>> My next question is, has anyone found a way to rig this type of rack so 
>> that it can safely carry these long wheelbase bikes?
>>
>> thanks!
>> Brian
>>
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[RBW] FS: Riv Long Sleeve T-Shirt

[Dave Grossman]

I bought this last summer and have yet to wear it.  It is a drop short in 
the sleeves for my shoulders.  I hate buying long sleeve t-shirts!  It has 
a loose thread by the neck, came that way, seen in pics.  

Size Large

Asking $25 Shipped CONUS

Pics:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/Uv7DwHn7FbCUnF4a9

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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Wire Guard

[R Shannon]

Patrick, thanks very much for your feedback. Disconcerting that it fell off
your bike, so yes, "Your Tension May Vary"! Certainly a number of
alternatives available but this one seemed like a simple and unobtrusive
solution worth exploring. Thanks again.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 2:55 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> This device is far too light and flexible to provide any support even for
> a light bag; it's sole purpose is to be a stand-off to keep the back of the
> bag from rubbing the stays or brake cable.
>
> It works well for its purpose, *BUT!* it is prone to fall off at least on
> some bikes if held in place only by it's designed-in tension and the
> pressure of the bag; mine fell of into the rear wheel, fortunately at
> walking speed so that the wheel was not hurt, and I was able to bend the
> device back into shape. I use mine now only with a velcro security strap.
>
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 9:22 AM RichS  wrote:
>
>> Does anyone here have experience with this piece of hardware? They're out
>> of stock at Riv but Crust has them in stock. If the Wire Guard provides
>> enough "lift" it would enable me to use my Carradice Pendle bag.
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-wire-guard-20189
>> Thanks very much for your feedback.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
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[RBW] Re: FS: '84 Trek 720 (19"), Billie Bars

[Collin A]

Well, the Billie Bars are spoken for...

The long-stayed Trek is still up for grabs! A rivendell-like ride for a 
fraction of the price of a Rivendell...

Collin, who is already thinking about new projects, in Sacramento

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 4:24:41 PM UTC-7 Collin A wrote:

> Howdy Bunch,
>
> I've got a few things lingering in the bike closet that need to go! 
>
> Photos here:
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/fq8pdK8MorGTXYNN7
>
> *1984 Trek 720, size 19"* - Comes with frame, fork, FSA duron headset and 
> kalloy 27.2 seatpost. I bought this a couple months ago from IBOB, so its a 
> bit of a catch-and-release + some extras. I built this up for my wife to 
> use as a loaner bike over the summer...needless to say she liked it, but 
> now she is back in SLC with her Rivendell and I no longer have a need for 
> it. Fits 700x35 with fenders on skinny rims with older-style cantilever 
> brakes - Hoping for *$500 + shipping*. I'll need to hunt down a bike box.
>
> *Billie Bars* - They are in generally good condition...however, this is 
> from the first batch where the clamp diameter is just ever so slightly less 
> than 22.2, which means some brakes/shifters/etc. won't work well without a 
> thin layer of electrical tape to add some extra diameter. However, some 
> lower-end components will fit fine for whatever reason - Hoping for 
> *$70+shipping.*
>
> I'm going through some other bits and bobs and will likely update the 
> photo album, so if you see something that is of interest just let me know!
>
> Cheers,
> Collin in Sactown
>

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Re: [RBW] Clem Smith Jr H

[Richard Rose]

I believe that is the case. The step through design is perhaps my favorite 
thing about the bike amid a lot of favorite things.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 20, 2022, at 1:00 PM, OutnBack  wrote:
> 
> Is the Clem Smith Jr strictly a step-through these days?
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[RBW] FS: '84 Trek 720 (19"), Billie Bars

[Collin A]

Howdy Bunch,

I've got a few things lingering in the bike closet that need to go! 

Photos here:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/fq8pdK8MorGTXYNN7

*1984 Trek 720, size 19"* - Comes with frame, fork, FSA duron headset and 
kalloy 27.2 seatpost. I bought this a couple months ago from IBOB, so its a 
bit of a catch-and-release + some extras. I built this up for my wife to 
use as a loaner bike over the summer...needless to say she liked it, but 
now she is back in SLC with her Rivendell and I no longer have a need for 
it. Fits 700x35 with fenders on skinny rims with older-style cantilever 
brakes - Hoping for *$500 + shipping*. I'll need to hunt down a bike box.

*Billie Bars* - They are in generally good condition...however, this is 
from the first batch where the clamp diameter is just ever so slightly less 
than 22.2, which means some brakes/shifters/etc. won't work well without a 
thin layer of electrical tape to add some extra diameter. However, some 
lower-end components will fit fine for whatever reason - Hoping for 
*$70+shipping.*

I'm going through some other bits and bobs and will likely update the photo 
album, so if you see something that is of interest just let me know!

Cheers,
Collin in Sactown

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1989 Bridgstone MB-2

[Joe Mullins]

SOLD!

On Friday, June 10, 2022 at 6:26:53 PM UTC-7 Joe Mullins wrote:

> I'm not active on iBob and my loyalty is definitely to this group so 
> hopefully someone here can give it a new home. The seat tube measures 19.5" 
> C-C. All parts are original except for the brake cables and housings, 
> handlebars, and tires. The Rene Herse Humptulips Ridge 26" x 2.3" Endurance 
> tires have less than 150 miles on them. These tires cost $96 each! I had it 
> setup and riding with bullmoose bars but I put the old bars and stem with 
> built in cable hanger back on. Rather than remove the cable hanger that I 
> added to the headset I figure I'd let you decide way to set it up. It needs 
> new shifter cables.  I am 5'10" with a PBH of 85 and the saddle height is 
> set for me. 
>
> More photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/1UKVpSYqhSoiDY5s5
> $500 + shipping or local pickup in Los Angeles
> [image: IMG_2680.jpg]
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 60cm Cheviot complete, $2500

[J Schwartz]

Bump on this
Will consider selling Frameset only 
thanks
js

On Wednesday, June 15, 2022 at 6:54:43 PM UTC-4 J Schwartz wrote:

> FS: Cheviot complete 60cm 
>
> [image: IMG_3552.JPG]
>
>  [image: IMG_2800 2.jpg]
>
> Here’s a trailish ready big Chev for sale
>
>  
>
> Frameset purchased from Justin on this list who bought it from Riv
>
> I built it up and have ridden for about a year and a half but have come to 
> the conclusion that it’s just too big for me 
>
> Even with the Toscos I'm too spread out.
>
> Otherwise I love this thing
>
>
> It’s set up as a sort of off-roady mixte tourer
>
>  
>
> 60cm metallic blue framset, plenty of beausage but in great shape
>
> (some scrapes, rubs, etc, here and there, no dents or problems)
>
>  
>
> BB – stock
>
> Headset – stock 
>
> Seatpost – stock 
>
> Crankset – vintage Sugino “ML” triple , 110/74 175mm length , grey 
> anodized arms
>
> Chainrings - 42 black outer, 35 silver alu middle, 26 polished steel inner
>
> Pedals – original grip kings 
>
> Chain – SRAM , 9 speed
>
> Cassette – 9 speed 12-36 Shimano HG400
>
> Front der – IRD Alpina on IRD clamp
>
> Rear der – Shimano Altus ...the LX in the pictures is no longer on the bike
>
> Front Wheel – Shimano dynohub laced to Velocity Synergy, wheelsmith db14 
> spokes , 36h
>
> Rear Wheel – Shimano XT (m770) hub laced to Velocity Synergy, wheelsmith 
> db14 spokes 36h
>
> Tires – Contenental Race King 700 x 2.0 on tubes 
>
> Front brake – Paul centerpull , silver
>
> Rear brake – Tektro long pull 
>
> Brake levers – Tektro RL520 
>
> Stem – nitto quill adapter, Nitto threadless “hi riser” from Riv, 110mm
>
> Bars – Riv Tosco , 600mm
>
> No saddle, No bags or racks include 
>
>
> I can ship correctly from my local shop (Riv Dealer)
>
> shipping at your expense
>
> Bike is located in New York...Hudson Valley 
>
> Can meet in NYC if necessary 
>
> Thank you
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Wheel building, 36 into 32: in case it's of interest to non-i-Bob-list-members.

[Peter Adler]

But are they faster? Or do they actually slow you down, what with looking 
around as you ride? I mean, it's scientifically proven that orange frames 
are fastest*; has anyone done statistical analysis of which rim finishes 
are fastest? There's no other plausible explanation for the near-total 
replacement of silver rims with black rims.

* by Doctor Bicycle Science, who knows *more* than you do; he has a 
master's degree - in Bicycle Science!

Peter Adler
hunting for Duck's Breath Mystery Theatre streams in
Berkeley, CA/USA

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 1:03:33 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Any life lived in the absence of eye-ball patterned rims is a life 
> WASTED.  That's just an objective fact.  

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[RBW] Re: Wheel building, 36 into 32: in case it's of interest to non-i-Bob-list-members.

[Bill Lindsay]

Any life lived in the absence of eye-ball patterned rims is a life WASTED.  
That's just an objective fact.  

BL in EC

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 12:59:40 PM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> Love this - Thank you. I have a lot of hubs sitting around, all 36 hole 
> and Retrogression has some beautiful NOS Australian Velocity Deep-V rims 
> (like those on my Trek District) 700C, 32 hole only and I didn't want to 
> buy new hubs in order to use them. I want to put the Yellow rims on my 
> Flanker Green Rosco Bubbe V1. I don't know what to put the eyeballs on, but 
> I have to have them.
> [image: Yellow.JPG][image: Googlyeyes.JPG]
>
> Laing
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> Someone posted this in a discussion of lightish, rim-brake 559 rims. It 
>> might allow someone to buy 32 rims for 36 hubs, or doubtless v-v, and thus 
>> makes this sparsely populated rim field a bit more populous.
>>
>>
>> https://www.instructables.com/Lacing-Bike-Wheel-36-Holes-Hub-to-32-Holes-Rim/
>>
>> If anyone has any matched pairs of ~ road-weight, ~road-width, rim-brake 
>> 559 rims for sale, please let me know. My 2 faves right now are:
>>
>> 1. Sun Ringle EQ 21, 360 gram, 21 mm OW, and:
>> 2. Sun M14A "semi-aero", 19 mm OW (apparently consistency varies, but my 
>> digital scale says 360 grams to 390 grams).
>>
>> But happy to look at anything 24 mm OW or narrower, and 450 grams or 
>> lighter.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> -- 
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>> ---
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>> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>>
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[RBW] Re: Wheel building, 36 into 32: in case it's of interest to non-i-Bob-list-members.

[lconley]

Love this - Thank you. I have a lot of hubs sitting around, all 36 hole and 
Retrogression has some beautiful NOS Australian Velocity Deep-V rims (like 
those on my Trek District) 700C, 32 hole only and I didn't want to buy new 
hubs in order to use them. I want to put the Yellow rims on my Flanker 
Green Rosco Bubbe V1. I don't know what to put the eyeballs on, but I have 
to have them.
[image: Yellow.JPG][image: Googlyeyes.JPG]

Laing

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 3:24:49 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Someone posted this in a discussion of lightish, rim-brake 559 rims. It 
> might allow someone to buy 32 rims for 36 hubs, or doubtless v-v, and thus 
> makes this sparsely populated rim field a bit more populous.
>
>
> https://www.instructables.com/Lacing-Bike-Wheel-36-Holes-Hub-to-32-Holes-Rim/
>
> If anyone has any matched pairs of ~ road-weight, ~road-width, rim-brake 
> 559 rims for sale, please let me know. My 2 faves right now are:
>
> 1. Sun Ringle EQ 21, 360 gram, 21 mm OW, and:
> 2. Sun M14A "semi-aero", 19 mm OW (apparently consistency varies, but my 
> digital scale says 360 grams to 390 grams).
>
> But happy to look at anything 24 mm OW or narrower, and 450 grams or 
> lighter.
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
>
> ---
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: long wheelbase, Hillibikes + tray racks

[Joe Mullins]

I had a 1up rack but it got stolen! The thieves must have had the special allen 
key. It was locked with the key lock that 1up sells but they got through that 
no problem. Don’t leave your 1up racks on your car in Los Angeles!

It would have fit my new Susie no problem. 

Joe

> On Jun 20, 2022, at 12:27 PM, JAS  wrote:
> 
> I have a 1UP rack and my bikes fit fine.  
>Clem size 52 cm with a 117cm wheelbase (tires are 650b x 48)
>Platypus size 55 cm with a 122 cm wheelbase (tires are 700x42)
> 
> I did my best to measure the wheelbase of each bike, but they might be 
> slightly off by a cm or so.
> 
> --Joyce
> 
> 
>> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:00:44 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:
>> My apologies if this has been asked before, but has anyone had any success 
>> carrying their Gus / Susie / Clem / Appaloosa / Platy on a hitch-mounted 
>> tray rack such as the Kuat NV 2.0 (my rack)? I'm about to take ownership of 
>> a Gus very soon, and I'm wondering if there's any chance it'll work somehow. 
>> Looking at the numbers, it doesn't seem like these bikes would possibly fit, 
>> as the rear wheel would stick out too far for the retaining straps to 
>> effectively grab the rear wheel.
>> 
>> My next question is, has anyone found a way to rig this type of rack so that 
>> it can safely carry these long wheelbase bikes?
>> 
>> thanks!
>> Brian
> 
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Re: [RBW] Hillibikes are so close!

[Patrick Moore]

Brendon: A Riv cuddling up to a Volvo 240? That marriage will last.

I've never owned a Volvo, but my brother, who drives 35X more in a year
than I do (me, no more than 500 miles per year), and traveled several times
per year between LA and ABQ until he moved to latter, owned several of
these, all hi-miles, and swore by them. Apparently, almost as good as old
Toyotas.

What are those tires?

Daniel: G-Ones! I can't read the tire size; 650B or 700C? 60s for certain.

If those G-Ones are anything close to as nice as the ineffably wonderful
lightest-model Big Ones, then those are very, very nice tires indeed. What
model G-One, and how do you find them?

Patrick Moore, who just had a nice early-monsoon, cool-temp, mixed
pavement/dirt ride on the 700C X 60 Big One-shod Matthews 1:1.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 12:33 PM Daniel MacPherson 
wrote:

> Please see attached for my Hillibike. First time Riv Owner. I always
> wanted a Riv bike and finally pulled the trigger with the Susie. I will
> mostly use it for commuting but maybe the occasional gravel trail.
>
> Daniel MacPherson
> Tallahassee, Fl
>
>

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[RBW] Re: long wheelbase, Hillibikes + tray racks

[JAS]

I have a 1UP rack and my bikes fit fine.  
   Clem size 52 cm with a 117cm wheelbase (tires are 650b x 48)
   Platypus size 55 cm with a 122 cm wheelbase (tires are 700x42)

I did my best to measure the wheelbase of each bike, but they might be 
slightly off by a cm or so.

--Joyce


On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 10:00:44 AM UTC-7 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> My apologies if this has been asked before, but has anyone had any success 
> carrying their Gus / Susie / Clem / Appaloosa / Platy on a hitch-mounted 
> tray rack such as the Kuat NV 2.0 (my rack)? I'm about to take ownership of 
> a Gus very soon, and I'm wondering if there's any chance it'll work 
> somehow. Looking at the numbers, it doesn't seem like these bikes would 
> possibly fit, as the rear wheel would stick out too far for the retaining 
> straps to effectively grab the rear wheel.
>
> My next question is, has anyone found a way to rig this type of rack so 
> that it can safely carry these long wheelbase bikes?
>
> thanks!
> Brian
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[RBW] Wheel building, 36 into 32: in case it's of interest to non-i-Bob-list-members.

[Patrick Moore]

Someone posted this in a discussion of lightish, rim-brake 559 rims. It
might allow someone to buy 32 rims for 36 hubs, or doubtless v-v, and thus
makes this sparsely populated rim field a bit more populous.

https://www.instructables.com/Lacing-Bike-Wheel-36-Holes-Hub-to-32-Holes-Rim/

If anyone has any matched pairs of ~ road-weight, ~road-width, rim-brake
559 rims for sale, please let me know. My 2 faves right now are:

1. Sun Ringle EQ 21, 360 gram, 21 mm OW, and:
2. Sun M14A "semi-aero", 19 mm OW (apparently consistency varies, but my
digital scale says 360 grams to 390 grams).

But happy to look at anything 24 mm OW or narrower, and 450 grams or
lighter.

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Re: [RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Wire Guard

[Patrick Moore]

This device is far too light and flexible to provide any support even for a
light bag; it's sole purpose is to be a stand-off to keep the back of the
bag from rubbing the stays or brake cable.

It works well for its purpose, *BUT!* it is prone to fall off at least on
some bikes if held in place only by it's designed-in tension and the
pressure of the bag; mine fell of into the rear wheel, fortunately at
walking speed so that the wheel was not hurt, and I was able to bend the
device back into shape. I use mine now only with a velcro security strap.

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 9:22 AM RichS  wrote:

> Does anyone here have experience with this piece of hardware? They're out
> of stock at Riv but Crust has them in stock. If the Wire Guard provides
> enough "lift" it would enable me to use my Carradice Pendle bag.
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-wire-guard-20189
> Thanks very much for your feedback.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
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[RBW] Re: wheels (135mm spaced rear with freehub) for a Sam Hillborne

[Garth]

Just to clarify Peter, these wheels are not found as completes from the 
"wheels" category, they are built to order via the "Custom wheelset 
builder" with wrench icon, from the menu on the left, it's the 9th category 
down, before you even get into a parts category. 

While there are a few premade rim brake wheels with Deore T610 hubs from 
Quality, they are machine built and hand finished, supposedly ! Yet for the 
same amount or even less you can have them made by their builders from 
scratch. There's even some 135mm premade freewheel hub'd wheels but those 
hub bearing races are likely aren't so hot. 

At least with Deore T-610 cassette rim brake hubs they are quiet like 
freewheels and the freehub bodies are also available if need be. They are 
completely serviceable to clean and relube like any freewheel. 
On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 9:29:02 PM UTC-4 lug...@gmail.com wrote:

> thanks.
> I'll look at those both.
> I did dip into the Universal website for a minute. most of what they seem 
> to offer in wheels was for Disc brakes. and I am not there yet. I couldn't 
> find much for Rim brakes.
> but I wrote them, told them what I needed and asked what they suggested.
>
> thanks for the leads.
>
> Peter
>
> On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 3:50:12 PM UTC-4 Garth wrote:
>
>> All of that is quite relevant Peter !  I'm pretty much the same way, I 
>> don't care about bling, function over form. The only reason I own a Riv 
>> frame is it's function, the Bombadil frame fits me perfectly. I had it 
>> repainted to a solid color w/o decals. I really didn't want to be bothered 
>> with acquiring any, and given the choice like I had, I chose "just the 
>> paint please !".  I've ridden freewheels my whole life up until a few years 
>> ago I bought a wheel made with a Deore hub and Rhyno Lite rim. I'm still 
>> not enamored with cassette hubs in general, but given the absence of 135mm 
>> Phil Wood freewheel hubs anymore I gave them a try. They just work, so good 
>> enough. I know people look at PW hubs as bling but for 135mm FW hubs there 
>> wasn't much choice. I'd never buy one their cassette hubs, or any other of 
>> the noisy, high end overly complicated pain in the arse in waiting hub. 
>>
>> So surely not everyone who rides a Riv cares for or about bling.
>> Anyways, I totally get where you're coming from. I just so happen to have 
>> been wheel shopping and like you, I just want something true and will stay 
>> that way, but surely on the modest side. So my "recommends" are what I'm 
>> looking at for myself. 
>> Two places I'm considering to have custom wheels built are 
>> Universalcycles.com and Benscycle.com. They both have online configurators 
>> that you choose your parts based on their current offerings. 
>> I'll just post screenshots of the 2 builds I made up. 
>>
>> The Ben's Cycle online builder is totally wonky for choosing rims and 
>> hubs. It's best to open the rim and hub in it's own web page and click "add 
>> to builder". At the top of the page you'll see the configurator . Choosing 
>> spokes and nipples and details "no rim tape" all work from there. Trust me, 
>> I've tried adding rims and hubs using the configuator and there is always 
>> and error, so you must start over. so you start over and the same thing 
>> happens. By accident I discovered the workaround was going directly to the 
>> parts web page and "add to builder" from there. If you have a problem 
>> finding the links for any of the parts just ask. 
>>
>> The Universal cycles one is easier, at least the menu options work Work 
>> left to right on the menu options. 
>>
>> I only recommend these if you can pick up from Buffalo, as you mentioned. 
>> Ben's offers half price shipping to Canada, but it's still like $80. 
>> Universal doesn't off and upfront estimation for shipping to Canada without 
>> logging in and using a Canada address to estimate it. 
>>
>> The Sun SR25 clincher is old school anodised, like the way MA40's were. 
>> No silly premade brake tracks. The CR18 is polished, the only one they had 
>> in stock in 32 hole. 
>>
>> Deore hubs , at least the one I have, needed more grease(just pack it !) 
>> and adjusted as any cup and cone does. The factory preload was too much. It 
>> needs to be set oh so slightly loose, which under QR tension goes away and 
>> is perfect ! 
>>
>> Both of these builds should be excellent. I have a new unused set from 
>> Universal that by hand feels taught and even. I've not bought wheels from 
>> Bens but have read only good things about their builds. While I have 2 sets 
>> of Joe Young wheels and 1 from Rich @Riv, they add up faster than I can pay 
>> going forward, so I decided to let loose my self imposed restriction that I 
>> HAD to use a high end builder, including building my own again, which I 
>> have lots a old and new parts to play with once I get a decent truing stand 
>> that isn't named Park. 
>>
>> That's the story and I'm sticking to it !  For now  
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Silver Hupe sought

[luckyturnip]

It didn’t work for me because there wasn’t enough room between my saddle and 
tire (fistful of seatpost) and the bag was squashed so I sold it onwards. 

> On Jun 20, 2022, at 13:00, Slin  wrote:
> 
> So how did it go with the Hupe?
> 
>> On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 8:50:05 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>> I got a Hupe and installed it. Yes, I read the other reviews, but still went 
>> for it. Hopefully I get the bag soon, gonna be an empty Hupe for a bit. 
>> Obligatory bike pic: 
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Clem Smith Jr H

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

It's looking that way...
-Kai (65 H'r)

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 1:00:11 PM UTC-4 OutnBack wrote:

> Is the Clem Smith Jr strictly a step-through these days?

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[RBW] long wheelbase, Hillibikes + tray racks

[Brian Turner]

My apologies if this has been asked before, but has anyone had any success 
carrying their Gus / Susie / Clem / Appaloosa / Platy on a hitch-mounted 
tray rack such as the Kuat NV 2.0 (my rack)? I'm about to take ownership of 
a Gus very soon, and I'm wondering if there's any chance it'll work 
somehow. Looking at the numbers, it doesn't seem like these bikes would 
possibly fit, as the rear wheel would stick out too far for the retaining 
straps to effectively grab the rear wheel.

My next question is, has anyone found a way to rig this type of rack so 
that it can safely carry these long wheelbase bikes?

thanks!
Brian

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[RBW] Re: wheels (135mm spaced rear with freehub) for a Sam Hillborne

[Hoch in ut]

Wilbur knowing your budget or intended usage, I’d say for a bike like a 
Sam, I’d get a local wheel builder to build up:
- Velocity Quill rims
- Bitex hubs, front and rear

This should cost around $600 usd. Great set up for pavement and gravel 
riding. 

I recently built up a heavier duty set up with Velocity Cliffhangers and. 
Bitex hubs for my Clem. I did go with a SON dynamo so added about $250 to 
the build. 

On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 2:38:59 AM UTC-6 Garth wrote:

>
> Peter, If you can be more specific of what exactly you're looking for 
> that'd help me to give you some direction. 
> The given is the 135mm 700c wheelset. 
> Do you care if all the parts are silver , if not, which parts are 
> acceptable otherwise ?
> Do you care if the spokes are double butted or straight gauge ? 
> What tire widths are you riding and @ what pressures ? 
> Do you have specific price range ? 
>
> Basically there are ready-to-buy prebuilt machine or machine + hand 
> finished wheels whose quality can vary a whole lot. Then there are many 
> custom options whose quality is usually excellent, meaning the wheel will 
> remain round and true without the rider ever needing to touch them. 
>
> Shipping with anyone varies wildly, regardless of the location, it's 
> always been that way ! 
>
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[RBW] WTB - 58cm Bosco or 60cm tosco

[Chris Copeland]

Hi folks, 
   I am going to switch up my cockpit soon, and I've already found my stem 
(nitto lugged 11cm). I know rivendell has Bosco's in stock, but I am hoping 
to find some used bars that are no longer of use to someone on here. Also 
looking for long pull brake levers, something like the XT pairs that 
Rivendell has on the site right now. Any help would be great, thanks!

-Chris 
Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: Silver Hupe sought

[Slin]

So how did it go with the Hupe?

On Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 8:50:05 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> I got a Hupe and installed it. Yes, I read the other reviews, but still 
> went for it. Hopefully I get the bag soon, gonna be an empty Hupe for a 
> bit. Obligatory bike pic:
>
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[RBW] Clem Smith Jr H

[OutnBack]

Is the Clem Smith Jr strictly a step-through these days?

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[RBW] WTB: 68cm Atlantis

[Mack Penner]

In the last couple of years, at least, the bunch seems to have been 
amazingly effective at moving some 68cm Atlantises (Atlantii?) around to 
new owners. So, one more time? F/F/HS would be ideal, but if you only want 
to sell complete my arm could be twisted, probably. 

I've been a reader for a little while, but never a poster, so this post 
might have an uphill battle ahead of it. Maybe a brief explanation will 
help: I managed to buy a 67cm Homer this winter, and it went straight to 
the top of my favourites list, ahead of a 62cm 2TT Appaloosa (thx Jim W!), 
a 61cm Roadini that I'm always on the verge of selling, and just barely 
ahead of a 60cm Platypus. Being totally hooked on the fit of the Homer, I 
want another big one but with room for fatter tires.

Could this work in time for my end of summer tour in the Rockies to be an 
Atlantis tour? Here's hoping!

Mack in Alberta 

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[RBW] WTB: Tosco bars, 38.1, 650mm

[Brian Turner]

Looking for some final pieces for an upcoming build and have no real hopes 
that Toscos will be stocking anytime soon at Riv or Blue Lug. If anyone has 
a 38.1 set they'd be willing to part with, please let me know! Thanks! - 
Brian

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Re: [RBW] Re: Nitto Saddlebag Wire Guard

[R Shannon]

Joe,

Much appreciate sharing your experience.
I may be better off buying a different bag. $40-$60 is a chunk of dough for
that piece of nice Nitto wire.

Thank you,
Rich

On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 12:38 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> My experience with a Riv SaddleSack is the guard really only does the
> thing it claims: protect the brake cable. The bag settled around it in its
> original position, there was no lifting up or back.
>
> Joe Bernard
>
> On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 8:22:48 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:
>
>> Does anyone here have experience with this piece of hardware? They're out
>> of stock at Riv but Crust has them in stock. If the Wire Guard provides
>> enough "lift" it would enable me to use my Carradice Pendle bag.
>> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-wire-guard-20189
>> Thanks very much for your feedback.
>>
>> Best,
>> Rich in ATL
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[RBW] Re: Nitto Saddlebag Wire Guard

[Joe Bernard]

My experience with a Riv SaddleSack is the guard really only does the thing 
it claims: protect the brake cable. The bag settled around it in its 
original position, there was no lifting up or back. 

Joe Bernard 

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 8:22:48 AM UTC-7 RichS wrote:

> Does anyone here have experience with this piece of hardware? They're out 
> of stock at Riv but Crust has them in stock. If the Wire Guard provides 
> enough "lift" it would enable me to use my Carradice Pendle bag.
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-wire-guard-20189
> Thanks very much for your feedback.
>
> Best,
> Rich in ATL
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Ride in SW Michigan

[Mike K.]

That would be fun! I'm in the Chicago area, but depending on the date and 
time, I could be in for driving out. 

- Mike
On Sunday, June 19, 2022 at 6:55:57 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I might be up for that!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 19, 2022, at 7:36 PM, Conway Bennett  
> wrote:
>
> I'm interested in a post Labor Day ride.
>
>
>
> On Saturday, June 18, 2022 at 8:13:28 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Friends, Marc Irwin and I live in the Kalamazoo, MI area and are 
>> hoping to round up some fellow Rivendell riders in the area and organize a 
>> ride on the Kal Haven Trail. Date and time TBD. Will be a fun time with 
>> like-minded riders. 
>>
>> Respond if you are interested!
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[RBW] Nitto Saddlebag Wire Guard

[RichS]

Does anyone here have experience with this piece of hardware? They're out 
of stock at Riv but Crust has them in stock. If the Wire Guard provides 
enough "lift" it would enable me to use my Carradice Pendle bag.
https://www.rivbike.com/products/nitto-wire-guard-20189
Thanks very much for your feedback.

Best,
Rich in ATL

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Re: [RBW] Searching for bike akin to Quickbeam

[mgst...@gmail.com]

Heresy, but i have my Roadini set up as fixed with an eno eccentric, and it 
is a GREAT ride as a fixed gear.   Ron, Western Ma.

On Monday, June 20, 2022 at 9:10:39 AM UTC-4 esoter...@gmail.com wrote:

>
> There's a 60cm SimpleOne frame on eBay right now located in Durham, NC. 
> For some reason the seller is not interested in shipping so it's local 
> pickup only. I'm in Raleigh and could help facilitate a pickup if you're 
> interested in it. Cheers,
>
> ~Mark
> Raleigh, NC
>
> On Jun 12, 2022, at 09:46, James  wrote:
>
> I have wanted a quick beam for a while now but the cost of a 3rd 
> rivendell is holding me back, so I'm looking for a similar frame.  Anyone 
> have any suggestions on a steel, lugged, horizontal dropout (front or rear 
> facing), fairly large wheel diameter bike?  One I could get for $500 max?? 
>  I have my eyes on a Schinn LeTour III and the only thing causing me pause 
> is tire clearance (35mm) .  Thanks for any suggestions.  (I have a 92cm PBH 
> for anyone between NC and RI) 
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[RBW] Re: FS: Shimano Bar End Shifters, Brake Levers, Derailleurs

[Bob K.]

Hi Folks,

I was either off on my prices or the world is ending and no one needs bar 
ends. I'm guessing it's the former. 

Everything is still OBO, and I lowered the prices and/or included shipping. 
Here's what's left. Please message directly with interest. Thanks! -Bob K. 
in Baltimore

   - Shimano Ultegra Bar End Shifters, 8-Spd (#1): Beat up but still 
   function well. Mounts included. $35 shipped. 


   - Shimano Ultegra Bar End Shifters, 8-Spd (#2): Nice with only a couple 
   minor scuffs. Mounts included. $55 shipped. 


   - Shimano Deore FD-M591: This is a "traditional dual-pull multi-clamp 
   front derailleur." I don't remember why I own this, but it sure seems like 
   a front derailleur! $15 shipped.


   - Shimano Deore RD-M591: Good shape. It's long-cage and 9-spd. I used it 
   with friction levers on a vintage MTB build for a few months. $30 shipped.


On Thursday, June 16, 2022 at 10:50:59 AM UTC-4 Bob K. wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I used to post often but haven't in quite some time. Hope it's OK that I 
> list a few parts for sale. Local pickup (Baltimore) preferred. Prices are 
> OBO and do not include shipping (although I am happy to ship at your 
> expense). If I'm off on a price, please just let me know. Paypal F/F, 
> please.
>
> Pictures found in this Google Drive folder 
> 
> .
>
> Thanks for any interest. Please reply off-list. 
>
> Bob K. in Baltimore
>
> Shimano Tiagra Road Levers: Short-pull. Good, not perfect, condition. $30.
>
> Shimano Ultegra Bar End Shifters, 8-Spd (#1): Beat up but still function 
> well. Mounts included. $35. 
>
> Shimano Ultegra Bar End Shifters, 8-Spd (#2): Nicer with only a couple 
> scuffs. Mounts included. $60. 
>
> Shimano Deore FD-M591: This is a "traditional dual-pull multi-clamp front 
> derailleur." I don't remember why I own this, but it sure seems like a 
> front derailleur! $15.
>
> Shimano Deore RD-M591: Good shape. It's long-cage and 9-spd. I used it 
> with friction levers on a vintage MTB build for a few months. $30.
>

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Re: [RBW] Searching for bike akin to Quickbeam

[esoterica etc]

There's a 60cm SimpleOne frame on eBay right now located in Durham, NC. For 
some reason the seller is not interested in shipping so it's local pickup only. 
I'm in Raleigh and could help facilitate a pickup if you're interested in it. 
Cheers,

~Mark
Raleigh, NC

> On Jun 12, 2022, at 09:46, James  wrote:
> 
> I have wanted a quick beam for a while now but the cost of a 3rd rivendell 
> is holding me back, so I'm looking for a similar frame.  Anyone have any 
> suggestions on a steel, lugged, horizontal dropout (front or rear facing), 
> fairly large wheel diameter bike?  One I could get for $500 max??  I have my 
> eyes on a Schinn LeTour III and the only thing causing me pause is tire 
> clearance (35mm) .  Thanks for any suggestions.  (I have a 92cm PBH for 
> anyone between NC and RI)
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