Re: [RBW] Re: New Handlebar Suggestions

[Eliot Balogh]

When I made my switch I used my current setup as a starting point. I
measured from my saddle to the hood position and then swapped the bars and
measured to the grips. The bars ended up coming back something like 3-4cm
so I added that length to the stem I had on there. YMMV

You can also use whatbars.com to compare the reach of your noodles to many
popular alt bars. Shows you the relative change of reach.

Eliot

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023 at 2:33 PM Drew Henson  wrote:

> I had some choco bars on my sam which I loved. I recently swapped bars
> between a crust romanceur and the sam, with rene hearse rando bars going on
> the sam and chaco going on the crust, but I'm already planning to put
> upright bars back on the sam. Thinking I'm going to try to the Ahearne+Map
> bars.
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:20:32 AM UTC-8 charlie...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> I swapped some 46mm Noodles for a Bull Bar a few days ago and am very
>> happy with the results. Not super aero, but the bike feels more capable and
>> is way more fun to ride now. Wish I had done this sooner!
>>
>> [image: IMG-0318-min.jpg]
>>
>> Charlie in Maine
>>
>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 4:30:04 PM UTC-5 BobW wrote:
>>
>>> I'm contemplating moving my Sam Hillborne from dropbar Noodles to some
>>> kind of upright/swept back handlebar, and to be honest, I am a bit
>>> overwhelmed by the various options.  By way of background, all I have ever
>>> know are dropbar handlebars; but at 60, I'm thinking the sweptback/upright
>>> might be a more comfortable option for my back!!  I like the idea of the
>>> aerodynamic benefit of the drops, so wondering what style of upright might
>>> offer aero for the occasional headwind.  From what I have read on this as
>>> well as a few other forums, the RBW Billiebars seems to get high marks.  I
>>> realize bar styles are somewhat subjective, however hoping the vast wisdom
>>> of the RBW Owners Bunch might educate me.  TIA!!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: (2) 60cm Rivendell Platypus complete bikes

[Valerie Yates]

You have a ton of really nice parts on these bikes. From watching and 
participating in rehoming bikes (buying and selling), you might want to 
consider splitting it up and offering the components and extras separate 
from the frames. Lots of people have their own collections of spare parts 
they want to use and many people may want some of the very nice things on 
the bike — but not the whole bike complete. Rather than adding items to 
make the sale price as a complete, I suspect you’d get more overall if you 
sold everything separately. My two cents, for what it is worth. 

Best wishes on your adventure,

Val in Boulder CO 

On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 6:01:43 PM UTC-6 jaredwilson wrote:

> Ok,
>
>  Fielded some trade interest but nothing that fits the bill, so lets make 
> an amendment...
>
> Now included, (1) per bike:
>
> Schmidt Edelux II light
> VO Mojave bottle cage
> Rivendell "Shiny" rear rack
> Crane Bell
>
> Let's talk!
>
> Jared
>
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 2:00:01 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:
>
>> Hey group,
>>
>>
>>
>> With life ever-changing my wife and I are putting our (2) 60cm Platypus 
>> bicycles up for sale. We’re going to be nomadic for the foreseeable future 
>> and need less valuable bikes (we’ll see how that plays out, lol) with 
>> emphasis on shorter wheelbases for ease of transit and storage.
>>
>>
>> Through our wheeling and dealing over the years we wound up with these 
>> two beautiful 60cm Mermaid Platypus bikes, with consecutive serial numbers 
>> no less! It was a complete fluke how that played out and I still can’t 
>> believe it, but sure enough these bikes are 1 number apart. They were both 
>> purchased from the original owners and are in great condition, ready for 
>> new ownership :)
>>
>>
>> Ari’s:
>>
>>
>> 2021 60cm Mermaid Platypus, Serial Number M20114408
>>
>> Originally Riv-built by James, some things changed but most remain
>>
>> Stock FSA Headset
>>
>> Nitto/Rivendell Boscomoose fillet brazed handlebars (dutch grips need 
>> replaced)
>>
>> Shimano DXR brake levers
>>
>> Silver2 thumb shifters
>>
>> Shimano DXR V-brakes
>>
>> Silver 173mm double crankset
>>
>> Stock bottom bracket
>>
>> Campagnolo Centaur FD
>>
>> Shimano Deore RD
>>
>> Rich built Velocity Cliffhanger 700c wheels 32/36h
>>
>> Shimano 3n72 dynamo hub
>>
>> Deore rear hub
>>
>> Shimano HG 12-36 rear cassette
>>
>> Schwalbe Thunderburt 29x2.1 tires set up tubeless
>>
>> Stock seat post
>>
>> Brooks B67S saddle
>>
>>
>> Price: $3,200
>>
>>
>> Ariel's Platypus Photos 
>> 
>>
>>
>> Jared’s:
>>
>>
>> 2021 60cm Mermaid Platypus, Serial Number M20114407
>>
>> Original owner *Hi, Mack!* purchased as frame set
>>
>> Stock FSA Headset
>>
>> Nitto 58cm Alu Bosco bars
>>
>> Nitto Faceplater 110mm stem with Simworks cap
>>
>> Paul Love Levers
>>
>> Suntour Barcon shifters
>>
>> Shimano Deore V-brakes
>>
>> White Industries/Sugino triple crankset, 175mm, 42/36/24
>>
>> Stock bottom bracket
>>
>> Shimano XT FD
>>
>> Shimano Deore LX rapid rise RD
>>
>> Velocity Cliffhanger 700c rims 32h
>>
>> Sapim Force Spokes with brass nipples
>>
>> Son Deluxe Widebody dynamo hub
>>
>> White Industries MI5 rear hub
>>
>> Jims 7 speed 11-36 cassette
>>
>> Salsa skewers
>>
>> Panaracer Gravelking SK 700x50 tires set up with tubes
>>
>> Nitto S83 seat post, black Cerakote from Analog
>>
>> Brooks B67 saddle
>>
>>
>> Price: $3,500
>>
>>
>> Jared's Platypus Photos 
>> 
>>
>>
>> No pedals, racks, lights, bells, or bottle cages included with either 
>> purchase.
>>
>>
>> Prefer local sales in CA, can deliver within reason. If shipped, buyer 
>> pays all associated fees, Zelle payment only.
>>
>>
>> POSSIBLE TRADES+CASH
>>
>>
>> For hers: Have an early Heron touring for someone with a 86cm PBH? Let’s 
>> chat! 
>>
>>
>> For his? How about a 58cm Ebisu All Purpose? Rivendell Allrounder? 
>> Saluki? Atlantis 2? Heron touring? Heck, maybe even a 93 X0-1? Send a DM!
>>
>>
>> If you’re interested in either or both please contact me off list.
>>
>>
>> Thanks and have a beautiful week :)
>>
>>
>> Jared and Ariel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: (2) 60cm Rivendell Platypus complete bikes

[jaredwilson]

Ok,

 Fielded some trade interest but nothing that fits the bill, so lets make 
an amendment...

Now included, (1) per bike:

Schmidt Edelux II light
VO Mojave bottle cage
Rivendell "Shiny" rear rack
Crane Bell

Let's talk!

Jared

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 2:00:01 PM UTC-7 jaredwilson wrote:

> Hey group,
>
>
>
> With life ever-changing my wife and I are putting our (2) 60cm Platypus 
> bicycles up for sale. We’re going to be nomadic for the foreseeable future 
> and need less valuable bikes (we’ll see how that plays out, lol) with 
> emphasis on shorter wheelbases for ease of transit and storage.
>
>
> Through our wheeling and dealing over the years we wound up with these two 
> beautiful 60cm Mermaid Platypus bikes, with consecutive serial numbers no 
> less! It was a complete fluke how that played out and I still can’t believe 
> it, but sure enough these bikes are 1 number apart. They were both 
> purchased from the original owners and are in great condition, ready for 
> new ownership :)
>
>
> Ari’s:
>
>
> 2021 60cm Mermaid Platypus, Serial Number M20114408
>
> Originally Riv-built by James, some things changed but most remain
>
> Stock FSA Headset
>
> Nitto/Rivendell Boscomoose fillet brazed handlebars (dutch grips need 
> replaced)
>
> Shimano DXR brake levers
>
> Silver2 thumb shifters
>
> Shimano DXR V-brakes
>
> Silver 173mm double crankset
>
> Stock bottom bracket
>
> Campagnolo Centaur FD
>
> Shimano Deore RD
>
> Rich built Velocity Cliffhanger 700c wheels 32/36h
>
> Shimano 3n72 dynamo hub
>
> Deore rear hub
>
> Shimano HG 12-36 rear cassette
>
> Schwalbe Thunderburt 29x2.1 tires set up tubeless
>
> Stock seat post
>
> Brooks B67S saddle
>
>
> Price: $3,200
>
>
> Ariel's Platypus Photos 
> 
>
>
> Jared’s:
>
>
> 2021 60cm Mermaid Platypus, Serial Number M20114407
>
> Original owner *Hi, Mack!* purchased as frame set
>
> Stock FSA Headset
>
> Nitto 58cm Alu Bosco bars
>
> Nitto Faceplater 110mm stem with Simworks cap
>
> Paul Love Levers
>
> Suntour Barcon shifters
>
> Shimano Deore V-brakes
>
> White Industries/Sugino triple crankset, 175mm, 42/36/24
>
> Stock bottom bracket
>
> Shimano XT FD
>
> Shimano Deore LX rapid rise RD
>
> Velocity Cliffhanger 700c rims 32h
>
> Sapim Force Spokes with brass nipples
>
> Son Deluxe Widebody dynamo hub
>
> White Industries MI5 rear hub
>
> Jims 7 speed 11-36 cassette
>
> Salsa skewers
>
> Panaracer Gravelking SK 700x50 tires set up with tubes
>
> Nitto S83 seat post, black Cerakote from Analog
>
> Brooks B67 saddle
>
>
> Price: $3,500
>
>
> Jared's Platypus Photos 
> 
>
>
> No pedals, racks, lights, bells, or bottle cages included with either 
> purchase.
>
>
> Prefer local sales in CA, can deliver within reason. If shipped, buyer 
> pays all associated fees, Zelle payment only.
>
>
> POSSIBLE TRADES+CASH
>
>
> For hers: Have an early Heron touring for someone with a 86cm PBH? Let’s 
> chat! 
>
>
> For his? How about a 58cm Ebisu All Purpose? Rivendell Allrounder? Saluki? 
> Atlantis 2? Heron touring? Heck, maybe even a 93 X0-1? Send a DM!
>
>
> If you’re interested in either or both please contact me off list.
>
>
> Thanks and have a beautiful week :)
>
>
> Jared and Ariel
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: 1) ISO: Soma Supple Vitesse SL 48s new or VG. 2) FS: Schwalbe Big Ones extralights (450 digital grams), several new pairs and 1 old pair

[Patrick Moore]

BTW: has anyone ridden both the Soma Supple Vitesse *SL* and the Soma
Supple Vitesse* EX,* and can she-er-he-er-it say with personal experience
how the latter compares to the former in (1) rolling resistance (or, let's
just say, does it "feel as fast?") and (2) softeness ("does it feel as
smooth and pillowy"?). Have the 48s particularly in mind.

Thanks.

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[RBW] WTB: shifter pods, Rivendell or Shimano + Ver 2 silver shifter X

[J]

Is anybody sitting on a set of bar- end shifter pods? I believe either the 
Riv or Shimano versions will work. 

Also looking for one left side Silver 2 shifter X. I somehow only have the 
left side 0 in my parts bin.

thanks
J

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[RBW] Re: New Handlebar Suggestions

[Drew Henson]

I had some choco bars on my sam which I loved. I recently swapped bars 
between a crust romanceur and the sam, with rene hearse rando bars going on 
the sam and chaco going on the crust, but I'm already planning to put 
upright bars back on the sam. Thinking I'm going to try to the Ahearne+Map 
bars.

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:20:32 AM UTC-8 charlie...@gmail.com wrote:

> I swapped some 46mm Noodles for a Bull Bar a few days ago and am very 
> happy with the results. Not super aero, but the bike feels more capable and 
> is way more fun to ride now. Wish I had done this sooner!
>
> [image: IMG-0318-min.jpg]
>
> Charlie in Maine
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 4:30:04 PM UTC-5 BobW wrote:
>
>> I'm contemplating moving my Sam Hillborne from dropbar Noodles to some 
>> kind of upright/swept back handlebar, and to be honest, I am a bit 
>> overwhelmed by the various options.  By way of background, all I have ever 
>> know are dropbar handlebars; but at 60, I'm thinking the sweptback/upright 
>> might be a more comfortable option for my back!!  I like the idea of the 
>> aerodynamic benefit of the drops, so wondering what style of upright might 
>> offer aero for the occasional headwind.  From what I have read on this as 
>> well as a few other forums, the RBW Billiebars seems to get high marks.  I 
>> realize bar styles are somewhat subjective, however hoping the vast wisdom 
>> of the RBW Owners Bunch might educate me.  TIA!!
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS: Sackville Happisack Saddlebag

[Michael Ullmer]

In great shape, just didn't fit my needs for the family tandem (a bit too 
big). I believe this is the tan color, but could be khaki? Hard to tell for 
sure.

$160 plus shipping via Pirateship

Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/xGm5bASPKSPZefyWA

Mike in Minneapolis

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[RBW] 1) ISO: Soma Supple Vitesse SL 48s new or VG. 2) FS: Schwalbe Big Ones extralights (450 digital grams), several new pairs and 1 old pair

[Patrick Moore]

I am in love. I wish I had met them in 2016 and we would have had a very
happy bigamous marriage in all the years since.

OK, deep breath, I had time only for an 11 mile ride, but sometimes you
just know that Fate has decided your destiny. I have God willing a longer
ride scheduled with a friend tomorrow morning, and I'll use the Matthews
1:1 with the Supple SLs.

This is how that Matthews should have handled all along. There is no more
Big One --or perhaps it's Schwalbe -- wallow or hesitation or uncertainty
in turns. Even the 50 mm Furious Freds that shod the bike for the first
1100 miles or so had that same subtle wallow/hesitation/vagueness, perhaps
because of the rather square profile.

The Somas make the bike feel much more like my Rivendell road bikes; not,
not *quite* that Grant-signature combination of unerring straight line
stability with wholly intuitive -- transparent -- cornering, but much,
much, much more like it; and in fact, the Matt 1:1 may very well handle
much like a Riv road bike with 50 mm tires; I never put tires wider than 42
mm on any Riv or Riv clone. Oh, I am so happy!

Except, it seems I learned about the Supple Vitesse *SL* only after it
started departing the market. I know that the EX is still available --
light puncture belt; but I'd really like to get another few pairs of the
*SL.*

Big Ones: I stocked up on the ultra lights at a consistent
digitally-verified 450 grams per and 61 or 62 mm at 20 psi after 1K miles
on 27 IW rims.

So:

1. WTT: 450 gram Big Ones to trade for Soma SV SLs -- straight up and down.

Or:

2.  WTS: ditto. Let's say $173 shipped Priority per pair ($150 per pair +
$23 Large Priority box), and 2 pairs for $323. I think I have 3 pairs,
perhaps 4, and if you want more than 2 pairs, let's talk.

The used pair: F = 2990 miles, R = 1145 miles, but the little tread dots
are still 2/3 there: $93 shipped Priority per pair ($35 per tire X 2 + $23).

If I ship cheaper via Shipbikes then I'll charge only actual shipping cost.

3. What other 622X48 mm tires are as good as the SSVSL or the BO extralight
for rolling, durability, and sealing while tubeless?

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Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quick Question about selling and payment methods?

[Hugh Smitham]

Garth,

Yes, F works but there are some buyers that want the buyer protection not
offered via F

On the other hand, if that becomes an issue I could just not sell to that
individual buyer.

Hugh

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 1:16 PM Garth  wrote:

> If you use friends and family this does not apply. I've only ever used F
> myself and without issue.
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[RBW] Re: Quick Question about selling and payment methods?

[Garth]

If you use friends and family this does not apply. I've only ever used F 
myself and without issue. 

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[RBW] Re: FS - Ron's Bikes Fabios Fanny - Golidlocks

[Sean Steinle]

bump, open to a reasonable offer.

On Monday, June 12, 2023 at 11:04:54 AM UTC-5 Sean Steinle wrote:

> Excellent condition, mounted to my bars, and tested packing around the 
> house. Turns out these aren't designed for the old narrow drop bar holdouts 
> :) Has some extremely minor wear marks from testing, but otherwise it's 
> like new. Includes a MUSA cotton strap with brass hardware that matches the 
> bag great! I'm into the whole package for $206, would like to sell for $170 
> + shipping. Basically just throwing the strap in for free on a sold out 
> colorway.
>
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Quick Question about selling and payment methods?

[Chester]

IANAAccountant but the main IRS info page makes this pretty clear, I think:

Understanding Your Form 1099-K | Internal Revenue Service (irs.gov) 


It is effective for TY 2023. You'll get issued a 1099K for any "Goods & 
Services" payment through a payment app/processor like PayPal. But not if 
it's Friends & Family, it seems.

They have instructions for noting the cost of the personal item you sold at 
a loss, if that is the case, so that you are offsetting the income with the 
cost and thus not gaining any net income from the sale. (It also clarifies 
that a loss on the sale of a personal item is not deductible, but a gain is 
taxable.)

Seems like a pain if you have a whole bunch of these sales and do your own 
taxes. But not a big deal if you do your own taxes and only make a handful 
of these transactions per year.

I'm pasting the most relevant section below.

Chester
SF Bay Area

If You Sold a Personal Item

You may get a Form 1099-K if you received payments for a personal item you 
sold through a payment app or online marketplace.

A personal item is something you owned for personal use such as a car, 
refrigerator, furniture, stereo, jewelry or silverware, etc.

How you report these payments on your tax return depends on whether you 
sold the item at a loss or a gain. If you sold a mix of personal items at a 
loss and a gain, report them separately.
Personal Items Sold at a Loss

A loss on the sale of a personal item isn't deductible.

If you sold personal items at a loss, you have 2 options to report the loss:
Report on Schedule 1 (Form 1040)

You can report and offset the Form 1099-K gross payment amount on Schedule 
1 (Form 1040), Additional Income and Adjustments to Income 
PDF.

Example: You receive a Form 1099-K for selling your couch online for $700, 
which is less than you paid for it.

On Schedule 1 (Form 1040):

   - Enter the Form 1099-K gross payment amount (Box 1a) on Part I – Line 
   8z – Other Income: "Form 1099-K Personal Item Sold at a Loss, $700"
   - Offset the Form 1099-K gross payment amount (Box 1a) on Part II – Line 
   24z – Other Adjustments: "Form 1099-K Personal Item Sold at a Loss $700"

These 2 entries result in a $0 net effect on your adjusted gross income 
(AGI).
Report on Form 8949

You can also report the loss on Form 8949, Sales and Other Dispositions of 
Capital Assets , which 
carries to Schedule D, Capital Gains and Losses 
.


On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 12:28:26 PM UTC-7 Hugh Smitham wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm considering selling a box full of parts I no longer need. In the past 
> I have taken payment via PayPal which was convenient for both the buyer and 
> myself. However, now I believe all 3rd party banking services will be 
> required to issue a 1099k for anything over $600 in a calendar year. I 
> thought this was going into effect last year but I think it wasn't 
> implemented.  I think this year is different. 
>
> How are people dealing with this these days? I am considering only 
> accepting a check for payment, this will obviously slow the process down as 
> I would not ship the product till it clears. 
>
> I understand that you can report to the IRS that you sold said items for a 
> loss but that requires additionally accounting, which I can do but it seems 
> tedious. 
>
> Perhaps, I'm making too big a deal about this?
>
> Anyway, I appreciate any constructive feedback.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Hugh
>

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[RBW] Quick Question about selling and payment methods?

[Hugh Smitham]

Hi,

I'm considering selling a box full of parts I no longer need. In the past I 
have taken payment via PayPal which was convenient for both the buyer and 
myself. However, now I believe all 3rd party banking services will be 
required to issue a 1099k for anything over $600 in a calendar year. I 
thought this was going into effect last year but I think it wasn't 
implemented.  I think this year is different. 

How are people dealing with this these days? I am considering only 
accepting a check for payment, this will obviously slow the process down as 
I would not ship the product till it clears. 

I understand that you can report to the IRS that you sold said items for a 
loss but that requires additionally accounting, which I can do but it seems 
tedious. 

Perhaps, I'm making too big a deal about this?

Anyway, I appreciate any constructive feedback.

Best Regards,

Hugh

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Re: [RBW] Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[Leah Peterson]

Hi Ryan! I rode the Clem to try out those new tires and they leave a lot to be desired on road surfaces compared to the Platys. The Clem is very good but the Platypus is exceptional, so one of those will be the bike I take. Theft is pretty low-risk where I am headed. I’m more worried about damaging the bike in transport. Here’s a wild thought: bring BOTH the Platys!On Jun 27, 2023, at 1:18 PM, Ryan  wrote:Why don't you take your Clem in its new gravel-ready configuration and try it out? Or am I missing something here? Like maybe one of the Platypi is easier to transport, for example...just a question from someone on the precious side of the spectrum who definitely thinks nice beaters also have a place in the stable...and when she was still working, would never, ever lock up her Rivendells outside downtown and tempt fate. On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 10:22:09 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! wrote:Two things. 1. Caroline, I think of you so often. How is it going with the Betty repairs? 2. I am going on my annual trip to see family in MN/ND this weekend. I will drive and can thus choose a bike to bring along. I am trying to choose between Platys and am faced with the Am I Being Precious question again. I adore both bikes, but the raspberry is more dear. If I take the mermaid bike, there is less worry over anything happening to it. But the memories I want to make are on the red bike. But I love riding the mermaid bike. But I love looking at the red bike. And so on and so forth.On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 3:46:26 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:It's really too bad that they stopped making those baskets. Wicker is wonderful stuff; I recall verandah furniture in 1960s India hand-made from cane wicker; tough stuff, tho' it did tend to flex when old and make neat creaking sounds. But so much more honest than cheap-shite aluminum and plastic webbing, and much longer lasting. I recall that cheap split-wood (?) bushel and smaller baskets were common cheap bulk produce containers in 1960s grocery stores and, even in early 1980s Quebec supermarches, Ste. Anne de Beaupre strawberries would be stacked in season in disposable ~  half-gallon-sized split wood baskets.On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 9:32 AM Jamie Hascall  wrote:To answer Patrick's other questions about the baskets on Betsy's Glorious, they came from Velo-Orange and were made by an Amish family in Minnesota. I had totally forgotten that but when I searched for "Amish bicycle basket", the post from their blog came up. Astonishing!  Sadly, they didn't continue in production. Check it out. https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2007/02/amish-baskets-for-bikes.html 



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Re: [RBW] Re: Riv Ride in Asheville NC?

[Dick Pahle]

I can't make the ride that wkend but I'd sure like one of those posters 
(nicely done, Brian!!). 

Dick
Brevard, NC

On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 11:03:38 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:

> Hi from Asheville!
>
> Looks like we're going to have a fun turnout for our Riv get together July 
> 7-9. We are going to be finalizing plans next week and will get the details 
> out to everyone, but until then here is an awesome poster that one of our 
> participants, Brian Turner came up with (Thank you Brian!!!). He runs a 
> graphic design and printing company and is offering to print up posters for 
> anyone coming to the gathering who may want one. He estimates that they 
> will cost about $20-25 and if you're interested please let me know asap so 
> I can let him know.
>
> Also, if anyone wants more info about the weekend now that you've been 
> tempted by Brian's amazing work, please contact me.
> [image: Unknown-1.jpeg]
> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 6:52:25 PM UTC-4 Carl wrote:
>
>> Gary, did you say there's an extra 55cm Cheviot lying around here in 
>> Asheville? I could maybe help with that . . . 
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 14, 2023 at 9:19:20 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>>
>>> Leah,
>>>
>>> What a great offer - it would be an honor to have a video made by you! 
>>>  But better yet, why don’t you come join us? I know of an extra 55cm 
>>> Cheviot lying around here in Asheville :)
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 13, 2023 at 2:32:25 PM UTC-4 steve...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Dick, sorry you won't be able to make it that weekend. 

 "40 mm Little Big Ben's...Could I do those Bent Creek area forest roads 
 on that bike?" 

 Absolutely!!!Come on up from Brevard and give it a go!

 On Tue, Jun 13, 2023 at 1:03 PM Dick Pahle  wrote:

> I've been following this for a while hoping I could commit to joining 
> in. Knew that week in July was problematic and now know for sure I can't 
> make it. Ratz!!
>
> I'm in Brevard and ride a Homer with 40 mm Little Big Ben's. 90 % on 
> roads and paved trails. Could I do those Bent Creek area forest roads on 
> that bike? If so, I may try and join those of you who ride there on a 
> regular basis some other time, if ok to join ya.
>
> Sorry I'll miss meeting/riding with all of you and sorry to miss Pam,  
> a good friend and my Cycling Savvy instructor from Charlotte. 
>
> Dick
>
> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 11:58:12 AM UTC-4 Gary L wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> There was some talk about a Riv ride in Asheville this spring but a 
>> May date won't work for lots of people. If there's still any interest in 
>> a 
>> meetup, how would a July or mid-Sept weekend work for folks?  If there's 
>> enough people interested I would be happy to try to nail down a date for 
>> whatever month seems to work for most everyone.
>> Gary
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Re: [RBW] Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[Ryan]

Why don't you take your Clem in its new gravel-ready configuration and try 
it out? Or am I missing something here? Like maybe one of the Platypi is 
easier to transport, for example...just a question from someone on the 
precious side of the spectrum who definitely thinks nice beaters also have 
a place in the stable...and when she was still working, would never, ever 
lock up her Rivendells outside downtown and tempt fate. 

On Tuesday, June 27, 2023 at 10:22:09 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Two things. 
>
> 1. Caroline, I think of you so often. How is it going with the Betty 
> repairs? 
>
> 2. I am going on my annual trip to see family in MN/ND this weekend. I 
> will drive and can thus choose a bike to bring along. I am trying to choose 
> between Platys and am faced with the Am I Being Precious question again. I 
> adore both bikes, but the raspberry is more dear. If I take the mermaid 
> bike, there is less worry over anything happening to it. But the memories I 
> want to make are on the red bike. But I love riding the mermaid bike. But I 
> love looking at the red bike. And so on and so forth.
>
> On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 3:46:26 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> It's really too bad that they stopped making those baskets. Wicker is 
>> wonderful stuff; I recall verandah furniture in 1960s India hand-made from 
>> cane wicker; tough stuff, tho' it did tend to flex when old and make neat 
>> creaking sounds. But so much more honest than cheap-shite aluminum and 
>> plastic webbing, and much longer lasting. I recall that cheap split-wood 
>> (?) bushel and smaller baskets were common cheap bulk produce containers in 
>> 1960s grocery stores and, even in early 1980s Quebec supermarches, Ste. 
>> Anne de Beaupre strawberries would be stacked in season in disposable ~ 
>>  half-gallon-sized split wood baskets.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 9:32 AM Jamie Hascall  wrote:
>>
>>> To answer Patrick's other questions about the baskets on Betsy's 
>>> Glorious, they came from Velo-Orange and were made by an Amish family in 
>>> Minnesota. I had totally forgotten that but when I searched for "Amish 
>>> bicycle basket", the post from their blog came up. Astonishing!  Sadly, 
>>> they didn't continue in production. Check it out. 
>>> https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2007/02/amish-baskets-for-bikes.html 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS handlebars: Nitto Noodles 46cm, Dirt Drop, VO

[Ed Felker]

The VO bars are sold. The Nitto Dirt Drop is still available, DM me if 
interested. 



On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 4:32:31 PM UTC-4 Ed Felker wrote:

> Further update: the VO bars are 25.4 clamp diameter and appear to be the 
> Course model. Due to flare, these measure 42 cm width at the ends and about 
> 39.5 cm c-c at the hoods. 
>
> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 2:06:41 PM UTC-4 Ed Felker wrote:
>
>> Update: The five Noodle bars are sold. 
>>
>> The Dirt Drop and VO bars remain available.
>>
>> Ed 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 12:42:03 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> 5 noodles or $140 is the deal of the century.
>>>
>>> BL in EC
>>>
>>> On Monday, June 26, 2023 at 9:11:36 AM UTC-7 Ed Felker wrote:
>>>
 Update: Here's the correct link for photos: 
 https://tinyurl.com/5n8yrvs3

 Ed 

 On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 11:25 AM Ed Felker  wrote:

> After selling some bikes as framesets and converting others to 31.8 
> stems, I've got a group of 26.0 clamp Nitto and VO handlebars to sell. 
> Please read the important shipping info below. 
>
> Photos here: https://tinyurl.com/ye3cabnf
>
> 5 - Nitto Noodle 177cm bars, all 46cm, 26.0 clamp diameter. All were 
> ridden and are in good to excellent condition. I cleaned the center 
> sections but not all of the electrical tape residue from the drops. All 
> were wrapped with nonadhesive bar tape. There are some surface marks from 
> the brake levers but no gouges. $35 each.
>
> 1 - New Nitto RM013 Dirt Drop flared bar. 42 cm width at the hoods. 
> 26.0 clamp. These were put into a stem and removed before riding. $50.
>
> 1 - VO Grand Cru deep drop bar. $15. Briefly used. 
>
> Shipping is free for multiple items. If you buy all five Noodle bars, 
> one is free for a total shipped price of $140. 
>
> Price for the entire lot is $185 free shipping. 
>
> I have three handlebar shipping boxes right now that I hope suffice 
> for this sale.
>
> If I have any singles left over I will advise the list. 
>
> Thanks for looking!
>
> Ed Felker
> Washington, DC 
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

Two things. 

1. Caroline, I think of you so often. How is it going with the Betty 
repairs? 

2. I am going on my annual trip to see family in MN/ND this weekend. I will 
drive and can thus choose a bike to bring along. I am trying to choose 
between Platys and am faced with the Am I Being Precious question again. I 
adore both bikes, but the raspberry is more dear. If I take the mermaid 
bike, there is less worry over anything happening to it. But the memories I 
want to make are on the red bike. But I love riding the mermaid bike. But I 
love looking at the red bike. And so on and so forth.

On Wednesday, June 21, 2023 at 3:46:26 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> It's really too bad that they stopped making those baskets. Wicker is 
> wonderful stuff; I recall verandah furniture in 1960s India hand-made from 
> cane wicker; tough stuff, tho' it did tend to flex when old and make neat 
> creaking sounds. But so much more honest than cheap-shite aluminum and 
> plastic webbing, and much longer lasting. I recall that cheap split-wood 
> (?) bushel and smaller baskets were common cheap bulk produce containers in 
> 1960s grocery stores and, even in early 1980s Quebec supermarches, Ste. 
> Anne de Beaupre strawberries would be stacked in season in disposable ~ 
>  half-gallon-sized split wood baskets.
>
> On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 9:32 AM Jamie Hascall  wrote:
>
>> To answer Patrick's other questions about the baskets on Betsy's 
>> Glorious, they came from Velo-Orange and were made by an Amish family in 
>> Minnesota. I had totally forgotten that but when I searched for "Amish 
>> bicycle basket", the post from their blog came up. Astonishing!  Sadly, 
>> they didn't continue in production. Check it out. 
>> https://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2007/02/amish-baskets-for-bikes.html 
>>
>

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