[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

[Joe Bernard]

Modern bikes are fine - I recommended the OP consider one as a companion to 
his Sam - but being on a Rivendell group and calling us "people who've 
drunk the Kool-Aid" is... interesting 

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 8:48:27 PM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:

> I obviously haven't drunk the Kool-Aid:-)
> On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 10:26:52 am UTC+10 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> High BB, short chainstays, steep seat-tube angles, and disc brakes? 
>> That's as far away from the Roadini as you can get. Add in wireless 
>> shifting and I'm sorry, that's just not comparable to any Rivendell I've 
>> seen!
>>
>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:00:11 PM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:
>>
>>> I've come to like modern aluminium frames - they're a far cry from the 
>>> rigid Cannondales of 25 years ago. I've been riding bikes for about half a 
>>> century, and have multiple lugged frames spanning that period (including a 
>>> custom Riv and a Bleriot), but I reckon that the Mason Definition frameset 
>>> that I recently built up as a fairly lightweight zippy machine is the best 
>>> riding bike I've ever owned. It can fit 35mm tyres - Conti GP Urban are 
>>> what I'm using, and has rack and mudguard mounts on the frame if you want 
>>> to fit those.
>>> [image: PXL_20230712_031843355.jpg]
>>>
>>> Nick Payne
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

[Nick Payne]

I obviously haven't drunk the Kool-Aid:-)
On Monday, 24 July 2023 at 10:26:52 am UTC+10 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> High BB, short chainstays, steep seat-tube angles, and disc brakes? That's 
> as far away from the Roadini as you can get. Add in wireless shifting and 
> I'm sorry, that's just not comparable to any Rivendell I've seen!
>
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:00:11 PM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:
>
>> I've come to like modern aluminium frames - they're a far cry from the 
>> rigid Cannondales of 25 years ago. I've been riding bikes for about half a 
>> century, and have multiple lugged frames spanning that period (including a 
>> custom Riv and a Bleriot), but I reckon that the Mason Definition frameset 
>> that I recently built up as a fairly lightweight zippy machine is the best 
>> riding bike I've ever owned. It can fit 35mm tyres - Conti GP Urban are 
>> what I'm using, and has rack and mudguard mounts on the frame if you want 
>> to fit those.
>> [image: PXL_20230712_031843355.jpg]
>>
>> Nick Payne
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Feedback wanted on ordering from circles-jp.com in Japan

[Kim H.]

I thank-you very much, Minh.

Kim Hetzel.

On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 7:03 PM Minh  wrote:

> ez-pz, shipping is costly but fair given distance and they are quick to
> ship.   FYI, they are closely related to sim.works so sometimes you can get
> the item from them--though usually a little bit more expensive, so figure
> out total cost shipped to compare.
>
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 1:30:37 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I thank-you very much Mr. Ray for your comments and encouragement.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 9:35 PM Mr. Ray  wrote:
>>
>>> Ordered from them in the past.  Zero problems.  Circles is an
>>> established online shop in Japan.  If the product/price is rightgo for
>>> it.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:43:53 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I am considering ordering a bicycle accessory from Circles-jp.a web
 store in Japan.

 https://shop.circles-jp.com/

 What are your thoughts and comments about your experiences ordering
 from them; pros and cons.

 Thank-you.

 Kim Hetzel
 Yelm, WA.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Feedback wanted on ordering from circles-jp.com in Japan

[Minh]

ez-pz, shipping is costly but fair given distance and they are quick to 
ship.   FYI, they are closely related to sim.works so sometimes you can get 
the item from them--though usually a little bit more expensive, so figure 
out total cost shipped to compare.

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 1:30:37 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I thank-you very much Mr. Ray for your comments and encouragement.
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Sat, Jul 22, 2023 at 9:35 PM Mr. Ray  wrote:
>
>> Ordered from them in the past.  Zero problems.  Circles is an established 
>> online shop in Japan.  If the product/price is rightgo for it.
>>
>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:43:53 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I am considering ordering a bicycle accessory from Circles-jp.a web 
>>> store in Japan. 
>>>
>>> https://shop.circles-jp.com/
>>>
>>> What are your thoughts and comments about your experiences ordering from 
>>> them; pros and cons.
>>>
>>> Thank-you.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[Eric Marth]

Thanks Brian and Danny! 

I got the mech freed. The parallelogram housing is twisted, too. The limit 
screws aren't in plane, they're twisted! It's a huge mess. Still have many 
good screws, bolts and springs worth saving. Jockey wheels, too. I'll leave 
it as-is and pull parts from it as needed. 

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 8:19:03 PM UTC-4 Danny wrote:

> Sorry about the hanger damage, but good to hear that you're ok. Even in 
> its pretzelized state, it's a good looking derailer sculpture!
>
> -Danny
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 6:42 PM Brian Turner  wrote:
>
>> I’m just over here hungry for pretzels.
>>
>> Seriously though, glad you’re ok, and I’m sorry about your Sam’s hanger. 
>> I’m sure it’ll be up and running strong again soon.
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2023, at 6:57 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Thanks, Jim. Just a bit of my own patented brand of sarcasm ;) 
>>
>> The damage is waaay out of proportion to the fall. 
>>
>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:57:30 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:
>>
>>> Wow... the most important thing is that you're fine, Eric. The bike 
>>> stuff is "just" bike stuff, repairable or replaceable.
>>>
>>> I saw your subject line and glanced at the pic before reading your 
>>> story, and at first I thought, "dang, did he get that thing to actually 
>>> work?!?"
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:30:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Dustin: To answer your question, hell no! 

 Ted: Gonna text the frame builder I know tomorrow. 

 Jared: Thanks! I'll share again when I have some updates. 

 On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:01:11 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:

> Yikes, that looks like a mess! 
>
> Glad you're okay and it's now another part of that Sam's history.
>
> Looking forward to seeing your repair updates.
>
> jared
>
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 12:32:48 PM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Wow, I’m glad to hear that it was only a minor tumble, but I’m sorry 
>> to hear about the derailler… again. That’s quite the pretzel you’ve 
>> made, 
>> though! I’m not sure I’ve seen such, save for deraillers that went 
>> through 
>> a far more severe crash.
>>
>> I might be crazy, but restoring a busted up mech like that actually 
>> sounds like it would be a fun challenge. Hope the hanger can be fixed 
>> with 
>> minimal fuss but I think you may be right, a frame builder might be 
>> needed 
>> here. It always baffled me that Riv didn’t adopt replaceable hangers at 
>> some point along the line.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 3:20 PM D D  wrote:
>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear about your misadventure. Thanks for the photo of the 
>>> pretzel. Did the photo you originally pulled over to take turn out to 
>>> be 
>>> worth it?  
>>>
>>> Dustin in VA
>>>
>>> On Jul 23, 2023, at 3:13 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hey gang — I was out for a Sunday ride and stopped to take a 
>>> picture. I rolled to the side of the road and did not see the culvert, 
>>> hidden with fresh grass clippings. I tumbled over at low speed. I'm 
>>> fine! 
>>>
>>> When I stood up I noticed my drive-side bar end shifter had rotated 
>>> 90º. And my derailer hanger and the derailer were bent. I spun the 
>>> crank 
>>> while off the bike and it seemed to move okay so I thought I'd give it 
>>> a go 
>>> as a single speed. 
>>>
>>> I pedaled for a few strokes, then nudged the shifter. It was at that 
>>> time the derailer turned upside down and inside out, bending into the 
>>> spokes and throwing the chain. It was really fun!
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> This is my Hillborne, my most-ridden bike. I'll see if the hanger 
>>> can be bent but I have a feeling it will require some work from a frame 
>>> builder. That's a Suntour Cyclone. Fortunately I have five of them 
>>> (including this one). You might recall the cage tension spring in my 
>>> previous Cyclone recently failed. This is one of the replacements I 
>>> picked 
>>> up. It was in excellent shape but now it's going to the salvage bin. 
>>>
>>> While I was waiting for a ride four people stopped to ask if they 
>>> could help me. One was a cyclist who said "You need anything?" I 
>>> replied "I 
>>> need derailer hanger, a rear mech and a welding torch!"
>>>
>>> Hope your weekend rides weren't so mechanically eventful. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Tektro 559's/Shimano 8 Speed XTR cassette

[Tim Bantham]

Shimano XTR Cassette is an M-950 and still available. Figured I bump this 
one more time for offers. Don't let this vintage bit of Shimano history 
disappear into the bottom of my parts bin!!!  Additional photos available 
upon request. 

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:29:29 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Brakes sold. Cassette still available. 
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 7:53:21 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>
>> Forgot to mention count on the cassette is 11/32
>>
>> Tim
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 7:48:05 AM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>
>>> Posting a link to photos. Sorry I didn't share this when initially 
>>> posting the FS items. 
>>>
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/ihaCk5wbgJim5MZz9
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 20, 2023 at 6:09:26 PM UTC-4 Tim Bantham wrote:
>>>
 So I decided to pass on the Roadini today. For those of you who may 
 have picked one up I've got brakes and an really nice Shimano 8 speed XTR 
 casette. 

 I can do $60 shipped to the lower 48 on the brakes (one bikes worth) 

 $70 shipped on the XTR cassette. This is a nice one. The believe the 
 largest two cogs are titanium. 

 Prices including shipping to the lower 48. Prices are net to me. 

 Tim

>>>

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[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

[Piaw Na]

High BB, short chainstays, steep seat-tube angles, and disc brakes? That's 
as far away from the Roadini as you can get. Add in wireless shifting and 
I'm sorry, that's just not comparable to any Rivendell I've seen!

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 2:00:11 PM UTC-7 Nick Payne wrote:

> I've come to like modern aluminium frames - they're a far cry from the 
> rigid Cannondales of 25 years ago. I've been riding bikes for about half a 
> century, and have multiple lugged frames spanning that period (including a 
> custom Riv and a Bleriot), but I reckon that the Mason Definition frameset 
> that I recently built up as a fairly lightweight zippy machine is the best 
> riding bike I've ever owned. It can fit 35mm tyres - Conti GP Urban are 
> what I'm using, and has rack and mudguard mounts on the frame if you want 
> to fit those.
> [image: PXL_20230712_031843355.jpg]
>
> Nick Payne
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Re: [RBW] Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[Danny]

Sorry about the hanger damage, but good to hear that you're ok. Even in its
pretzelized state, it's a good looking derailer sculpture!

-Danny


On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 6:42 PM Brian Turner  wrote:

> I’m just over here hungry for pretzels.
>
> Seriously though, glad you’re ok, and I’m sorry about your Sam’s hanger.
> I’m sure it’ll be up and running strong again soon.
>
> On Jul 23, 2023, at 6:57 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> Thanks, Jim. Just a bit of my own patented brand of sarcasm ;)
>
> The damage is waaay out of proportion to the fall.
>
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:57:30 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:
>
>> Wow... the most important thing is that you're fine, Eric. The bike stuff
>> is "just" bike stuff, repairable or replaceable.
>>
>> I saw your subject line and glanced at the pic before reading your story,
>> and at first I thought, "dang, did he get that thing to actually work?!?"
>>
>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:30:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Dustin: To answer your question, hell no!
>>>
>>> Ted: Gonna text the frame builder I know tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Jared: Thanks! I'll share again when I have some updates.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:01:11 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:
>>>
 Yikes, that looks like a mess!

 Glad you're okay and it's now another part of that Sam's history.

 Looking forward to seeing your repair updates.

 jared

 On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 12:32:48 PM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow, I’m glad to hear that it was only a minor tumble, but I’m sorry
> to hear about the derailler… again. That’s quite the pretzel you’ve made,
> though! I’m not sure I’ve seen such, save for deraillers that went through
> a far more severe crash.
>
> I might be crazy, but restoring a busted up mech like that actually
> sounds like it would be a fun challenge. Hope the hanger can be fixed with
> minimal fuss but I think you may be right, a frame builder might be needed
> here. It always baffled me that Riv didn’t adopt replaceable hangers at
> some point along the line.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 3:20 PM D D  wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Sorry to hear about your misadventure. Thanks for the photo of the
>> pretzel. Did the photo you originally pulled over to take turn out to be
>> worth it?
>>
>> Dustin in VA
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2023, at 3:13 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hey gang — I was out for a Sunday ride and stopped to take a picture.
>> I rolled to the side of the road and did not see the culvert, hidden with
>> fresh grass clippings. I tumbled over at low speed. I'm fine!
>>
>> When I stood up I noticed my drive-side bar end shifter had rotated
>> 90º. And my derailer hanger and the derailer were bent. I spun the crank
>> while off the bike and it seemed to move okay so I thought I'd give it a 
>> go
>> as a single speed.
>>
>> I pedaled for a few strokes, then nudged the shifter. It was at that
>> time the derailer turned upside down and inside out, bending into the
>> spokes and throwing the chain. It was really fun!
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> This is my Hillborne, my most-ridden bike. I'll see if the hanger can
>> be bent but I have a feeling it will require some work from a frame
>> builder. That's a Suntour Cyclone. Fortunately I have five of them
>> (including this one). You might recall the cage tension spring in my
>> previous Cyclone recently failed. This is one of the replacements I 
>> picked
>> up. It was in excellent shape but now it's going to the salvage bin.
>>
>> While I was waiting for a ride four people stopped to ask if they
>> could help me. One was a cyclist who said "You need anything?" I replied 
>> "I
>> need derailer hanger, a rear mech and a welding torch!"
>>
>> Hope your weekend rides weren't so mechanically eventful.
>>
>> Eric
>>
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Re: [RBW] Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[Brian Turner]

I’m just over here hungry for pretzels.Seriously though, glad you’re ok, and I’m sorry about your Sam’s hanger. I’m sure it’ll be up and running strong again soon.On Jul 23, 2023, at 6:57 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:Thanks, Jim. Just a bit of my own patented brand of sarcasm ;) The damage is waaay out of proportion to the fall. On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:57:30 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:Wow... the most important thing is that you're fine, Eric. The bike stuff is "just" bike stuff, repairable or replaceable.I saw your subject line and glanced at the pic before reading your story, and at first I thought, "dang, did he get that thing to actually work?!?"On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:30:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:Dustin: To answer your question, hell no! Ted: Gonna text the frame builder I know tomorrow. Jared: Thanks! I'll share again when I have some updates. On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:01:11 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:Yikes, that looks like a mess! Glad you're okay and it's now another part of that Sam's history.Looking forward to seeing your repair updates.jaredOn Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 12:32:48 PM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:Wow, I’m glad to hear that it was only a minor tumble, but I’m sorry to hear about the derailler… again. That’s quite the pretzel you’ve made, though! I’m not sure I’ve seen such, save for deraillers that went through a far more severe crash.I might be crazy, but restoring a busted up mech like that actually sounds like it would be a fun challenge. Hope the hanger can be fixed with minimal fuss but I think you may be right, a frame builder might be needed here. It always baffled me that Riv didn’t adopt replaceable hangers at some point along the line.On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 3:20 PM D D  wrote:Eric,Sorry to hear about your misadventure. Thanks for the photo of the pretzel. Did the photo you originally pulled over to take turn out to be worth it?  Dustin in VAOn Jul 23, 2023, at 3:13 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:Hey gang — I was out for a Sunday ride and stopped to take a picture. I rolled to the side of the road and did not see the culvert, hidden with fresh grass clippings. I tumbled over at low speed. I'm fine! When I stood up I noticed my drive-side bar end shifter had rotated 90º. And my derailer hanger and the derailer were bent. I spun the crank while off the bike and it seemed to move okay so I thought I'd give it a go as a single speed. I pedaled for a few strokes, then nudged the shifter. It was at that time the derailer turned upside down and inside out, bending into the spokes and throwing the chain. It was really fun!This is my Hillborne, my most-ridden bike. I'll see if the hanger can be bent but I have a feeling it will require some work from a frame builder. That's a Suntour Cyclone. Fortunately I have five of them (including this one). You might recall the cage tension spring in my previous Cyclone recently failed. This is one of the replacements I picked up. It was in excellent shape but now it's going to the salvage bin. While I was waiting for a ride four people stopped to ask if they could help me. One was a cyclist who said "You need anything?" I replied "I need derailer hanger, a rear mech and a welding torch!"Hope your weekend rides weren't so mechanically eventful. Eric



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Re: [RBW] Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[Eric Marth]

Thanks, Jim. Just a bit of my own patented brand of sarcasm ;) 

The damage is waaay out of proportion to the fall. 

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:57:30 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:

> Wow... the most important thing is that you're fine, Eric. The bike stuff 
> is "just" bike stuff, repairable or replaceable.
>
> I saw your subject line and glanced at the pic before reading your story, 
> and at first I thought, "dang, did he get that thing to actually work?!?"
>
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:30:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Dustin: To answer your question, hell no! 
>>
>> Ted: Gonna text the frame builder I know tomorrow. 
>>
>> Jared: Thanks! I'll share again when I have some updates. 
>>
>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:01:11 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:
>>
>>> Yikes, that looks like a mess! 
>>>
>>> Glad you're okay and it's now another part of that Sam's history.
>>>
>>> Looking forward to seeing your repair updates.
>>>
>>> jared
>>>
>>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 12:32:48 PM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Wow, I’m glad to hear that it was only a minor tumble, but I’m sorry to 
 hear about the derailler… again. That’s quite the pretzel you’ve made, 
 though! I’m not sure I’ve seen such, save for deraillers that went through 
 a far more severe crash.

 I might be crazy, but restoring a busted up mech like that actually 
 sounds like it would be a fun challenge. Hope the hanger can be fixed with 
 minimal fuss but I think you may be right, a frame builder might be needed 
 here. It always baffled me that Riv didn’t adopt replaceable hangers at 
 some point along the line.


 On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 3:20 PM D D  wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Sorry to hear about your misadventure. Thanks for the photo of the 
> pretzel. Did the photo you originally pulled over to take turn out to be 
> worth it?  
>
> Dustin in VA
>
> On Jul 23, 2023, at 3:13 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> 
> Hey gang — I was out for a Sunday ride and stopped to take a picture. 
> I rolled to the side of the road and did not see the culvert, hidden with 
> fresh grass clippings. I tumbled over at low speed. I'm fine! 
>
> When I stood up I noticed my drive-side bar end shifter had rotated 
> 90º. And my derailer hanger and the derailer were bent. I spun the crank 
> while off the bike and it seemed to move okay so I thought I'd give it a 
> go 
> as a single speed. 
>
> I pedaled for a few strokes, then nudged the shifter. It was at that 
> time the derailer turned upside down and inside out, bending into the 
> spokes and throwing the chain. It was really fun!
>
> 
>
>
> This is my Hillborne, my most-ridden bike. I'll see if the hanger can 
> be bent but I have a feeling it will require some work from a frame 
> builder. That's a Suntour Cyclone. Fortunately I have five of them 
> (including this one). You might recall the cage tension spring in my 
> previous Cyclone recently failed. This is one of the replacements I 
> picked 
> up. It was in excellent shape but now it's going to the salvage bin. 
>
> While I was waiting for a ride four people stopped to ask if they 
> could help me. One was a cyclist who said "You need anything?" I replied 
> "I 
> need derailer hanger, a rear mech and a welding torch!"
>
> Hope your weekend rides weren't so mechanically eventful. 
>
> Eric
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[RBW] Re: FS: Dura Ace Bar Ends Shifters & Pods, 41cm Noodles

[Sean Steinle]

Pics might help :) 

https://imgur.com/a/9bzJoWm

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:25:07 PM UTC-5 Sean Steinle wrote:

> Noodles had cotton bar tape with shellac so plenty of residue and the 
> shimano pods have shellac and some scuffs. Nothing has anything beyond 
> cosmetic wear. Fee-free payment (plenty of history here and i-BOB) shipped 
> CONUS.
>
> Noodles - $40 
> Dura Ace Bar Ends (SL-BS77 8s/9s) - $65
>
> Thanks,
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[RBW] FS: Dura Ace Bar Ends Shifters & Pods, 41cm Noodles

[Sean Steinle]

Noodles had cotton bar tape with shellac so plenty of residue and the 
shimano pods have shellac and some scuffs. Nothing has anything beyond 
cosmetic wear. Fee-free payment (plenty of history here and i-BOB) shipped 
CONUS.

Noodles - $40 
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Re: [RBW] Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[J J]

Wow... the most important thing is that you're fine, Eric. The bike stuff 
is "just" bike stuff, repairable or replaceable.

I saw your subject line and glanced at the pic before reading your story, 
and at first I thought, "dang, did he get that thing to actually work?!?"

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 5:30:46 PM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Dustin: To answer your question, hell no! 
>
> Ted: Gonna text the frame builder I know tomorrow. 
>
> Jared: Thanks! I'll share again when I have some updates. 
>
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:01:11 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:
>
>> Yikes, that looks like a mess! 
>>
>> Glad you're okay and it's now another part of that Sam's history.
>>
>> Looking forward to seeing your repair updates.
>>
>> jared
>>
>> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 12:32:48 PM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Wow, I’m glad to hear that it was only a minor tumble, but I’m sorry to 
>>> hear about the derailler… again. That’s quite the pretzel you’ve made, 
>>> though! I’m not sure I’ve seen such, save for deraillers that went through 
>>> a far more severe crash.
>>>
>>> I might be crazy, but restoring a busted up mech like that actually 
>>> sounds like it would be a fun challenge. Hope the hanger can be fixed with 
>>> minimal fuss but I think you may be right, a frame builder might be needed 
>>> here. It always baffled me that Riv didn’t adopt replaceable hangers at 
>>> some point along the line.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 3:20 PM D D  wrote:
>>>
 Eric,

 Sorry to hear about your misadventure. Thanks for the photo of the 
 pretzel. Did the photo you originally pulled over to take turn out to be 
 worth it?  

 Dustin in VA

 On Jul 23, 2023, at 3:13 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:

 
 Hey gang — I was out for a Sunday ride and stopped to take a picture. I 
 rolled to the side of the road and did not see the culvert, hidden with 
 fresh grass clippings. I tumbled over at low speed. I'm fine! 

 When I stood up I noticed my drive-side bar end shifter had rotated 
 90º. And my derailer hanger and the derailer were bent. I spun the crank 
 while off the bike and it seemed to move okay so I thought I'd give it a 
 go 
 as a single speed. 

 I pedaled for a few strokes, then nudged the shifter. It was at that 
 time the derailer turned upside down and inside out, bending into the 
 spokes and throwing the chain. It was really fun!

 


 This is my Hillborne, my most-ridden bike. I'll see if the hanger can 
 be bent but I have a feeling it will require some work from a frame 
 builder. That's a Suntour Cyclone. Fortunately I have five of them 
 (including this one). You might recall the cage tension spring in my 
 previous Cyclone recently failed. This is one of the replacements I picked 
 up. It was in excellent shape but now it's going to the salvage bin. 

 While I was waiting for a ride four people stopped to ask if they could 
 help me. One was a cyclist who said "You need anything?" I replied "I 
 need derailer hanger, a rear mech and a welding torch!"

 Hope your weekend rides weren't so mechanically eventful. 

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Re: [RBW] Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[Eric Marth]

Dustin: To answer your question, hell no! 

Ted: Gonna text the frame builder I know tomorrow. 

Jared: Thanks! I'll share again when I have some updates. 

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 4:01:11 PM UTC-4 jaredwilson wrote:

> Yikes, that looks like a mess! 
>
> Glad you're okay and it's now another part of that Sam's history.
>
> Looking forward to seeing your repair updates.
>
> jared
>
> On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 12:32:48 PM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Wow, I’m glad to hear that it was only a minor tumble, but I’m sorry to 
>> hear about the derailler… again. That’s quite the pretzel you’ve made, 
>> though! I’m not sure I’ve seen such, save for deraillers that went through 
>> a far more severe crash.
>>
>> I might be crazy, but restoring a busted up mech like that actually 
>> sounds like it would be a fun challenge. Hope the hanger can be fixed with 
>> minimal fuss but I think you may be right, a frame builder might be needed 
>> here. It always baffled me that Riv didn’t adopt replaceable hangers at 
>> some point along the line.
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 3:20 PM D D  wrote:
>>
>>> Eric,
>>>
>>> Sorry to hear about your misadventure. Thanks for the photo of the 
>>> pretzel. Did the photo you originally pulled over to take turn out to be 
>>> worth it?  
>>>
>>> Dustin in VA
>>>
>>> On Jul 23, 2023, at 3:13 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> Hey gang — I was out for a Sunday ride and stopped to take a picture. I 
>>> rolled to the side of the road and did not see the culvert, hidden with 
>>> fresh grass clippings. I tumbled over at low speed. I'm fine! 
>>>
>>> When I stood up I noticed my drive-side bar end shifter had rotated 90º. 
>>> And my derailer hanger and the derailer were bent. I spun the crank while 
>>> off the bike and it seemed to move okay so I thought I'd give it a go as a 
>>> single speed. 
>>>
>>> I pedaled for a few strokes, then nudged the shifter. It was at that 
>>> time the derailer turned upside down and inside out, bending into the 
>>> spokes and throwing the chain. It was really fun!
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> This is my Hillborne, my most-ridden bike. I'll see if the hanger can be 
>>> bent but I have a feeling it will require some work from a frame builder. 
>>> That's a Suntour Cyclone. Fortunately I have five of them (including this 
>>> one). You might recall the cage tension spring in my previous Cyclone 
>>> recently failed. This is one of the replacements I picked up. It was in 
>>> excellent shape but now it's going to the salvage bin. 
>>>
>>> While I was waiting for a ride four people stopped to ask if they could 
>>> help me. One was a cyclist who said "You need anything?" I replied "I 
>>> need derailer hanger, a rear mech and a welding torch!"
>>>
>>> Hope your weekend rides weren't so mechanically eventful. 
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Blue Lug cycle work cap, Shimano BL-R400 brake levers

[J J]

Hi, bump on the Blue Lug hat. It's still available despite tons of 
interest. Two commitments didn't pan out. Let me know, it's a great hat!

The R400 brake levers are *sold*.

Thanks!

On Sunday, July 9, 2023 at 12:02:30 PM UTC-4 J J wrote:

> A couple of items for sale. Please reach out directly if you're interested.
>
>
> *Blue Lug original cycle work cap – Olive/cotton (new, $45 shipped conus)*
> This cap is brand new with tag. I tried it on for a few seconds. I prefer 
> looser fitting caps and hats. This wasn't comfortably big enough for me, 
> though it is "one size fits all". 
> [image: Blue Lug cycle hat 1.jpg]
> [image: Blue Lug cycle hat 3.jpg]
>
> *Shimano BL-R400 brake levers ($29 shipped conus)*
> Excellent mechanical condition, used only for a few short rides; 23.8-24.2 
> mm clamp band. I bought them with the marks on the light grey plastic. 
> Functionality 100 percent like new.
> [image: Shimano BL-R400 levers 1.jpg]
> [image: Shimano BL-R400 levers 2.jpg]
> [image: Shimano BL-R400 levers 3.jpg]
>
> Thanks! 
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[RBW] FS: Nitto Boscomoose Fillet Brazed, Campy QR Seat Post Binder

[jaredwilson]

and a couple parts now available

Nitto/Rivendell Boscomoose, 58cm, fillet brazed - $175 + shipping

Campagnolo quick release seat post binder, bought new but didn't fit on 
Platypus - $20 + shipping

PHOTOS 


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Re: [RBW] Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[jaredwilson]

Yikes, that looks like a mess! 

Glad you're okay and it's now another part of that Sam's history.

Looking forward to seeing your repair updates.

jared

On Sunday, July 23, 2023 at 12:32:48 PM UTC-7 ted.l...@gmail.com wrote:

> Wow, I’m glad to hear that it was only a minor tumble, but I’m sorry to 
> hear about the derailler… again. That’s quite the pretzel you’ve made, 
> though! I’m not sure I’ve seen such, save for deraillers that went through 
> a far more severe crash.
>
> I might be crazy, but restoring a busted up mech like that actually sounds 
> like it would be a fun challenge. Hope the hanger can be fixed with minimal 
> fuss but I think you may be right, a frame builder might be needed here. It 
> always baffled me that Riv didn’t adopt replaceable hangers at some point 
> along the line.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 3:20 PM D D  wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Sorry to hear about your misadventure. Thanks for the photo of the 
>> pretzel. Did the photo you originally pulled over to take turn out to be 
>> worth it?  
>>
>> Dustin in VA
>>
>> On Jul 23, 2023, at 3:13 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hey gang — I was out for a Sunday ride and stopped to take a picture. I 
>> rolled to the side of the road and did not see the culvert, hidden with 
>> fresh grass clippings. I tumbled over at low speed. I'm fine! 
>>
>> When I stood up I noticed my drive-side bar end shifter had rotated 90º. 
>> And my derailer hanger and the derailer were bent. I spun the crank while 
>> off the bike and it seemed to move okay so I thought I'd give it a go as a 
>> single speed. 
>>
>> I pedaled for a few strokes, then nudged the shifter. It was at that time 
>> the derailer turned upside down and inside out, bending into the spokes and 
>> throwing the chain. It was really fun!
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> This is my Hillborne, my most-ridden bike. I'll see if the hanger can be 
>> bent but I have a feeling it will require some work from a frame builder. 
>> That's a Suntour Cyclone. Fortunately I have five of them (including this 
>> one). You might recall the cage tension spring in my previous Cyclone 
>> recently failed. This is one of the replacements I picked up. It was in 
>> excellent shape but now it's going to the salvage bin. 
>>
>> While I was waiting for a ride four people stopped to ask if they could 
>> help me. One was a cyclist who said "You need anything?" I replied "I 
>> need derailer hanger, a rear mech and a welding torch!"
>>
>> Hope your weekend rides weren't so mechanically eventful. 
>>
>> Eric
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[RBW] FS: Riv Adjacent Clothing/Footwear

[jaredwilson]

Hey group,


With our ongoing downsizing Ariel and I have some clothing to unload, 
hopefully it's of some interest to the group. *Shipping not included,* will 
shop around for lowest prices.


PHOTOS 



*Womens:*


Patagonia Iron Forge double knee hemp pants, size 4, great condition, $50


Patagonia Organic Cotton shorts, navy blue, 3" inseam, size 8,  great 
condition, $20


Patagonia Down Sweater, blue, medium, good condition light marking, $60


Bedrock Cairn sandals, gray, lightly worn, great condition, size 8, $60


Salomon X Mission 3, good condition, size 8, $25


*Mens:*


Patagonia Synchilla full zip sweater, red, made in usa, good condition, 
large, $20


Patagonia Organic Cotton 4 button long sleeve, natural cotton color, good 
condition, large, $20


Patagonia Down Vest, green, good condition some paint on rear and light 
staining, medium, $30


Patagonia Baggies, both with liners cut out, orange medium, black small, 
$15/each


Bedrock Cairn sandals, gray, worn but good condition, size 12, $45

 

Red Wing Chukka boots, brown, crepe sole, used but lots of life left, size 
12, $40


Dickies overalls, hickory stripe, 34x32 hemmed to ~28", good condition sans 
missing rivet for strap (no idea where it went), $20


PHOTOS 



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Re: [RBW] Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[Ted W]

Wow, I’m glad to hear that it was only a minor tumble, but I’m sorry to
hear about the derailler… again. That’s quite the pretzel you’ve made,
though! I’m not sure I’ve seen such, save for deraillers that went through
a far more severe crash.

I might be crazy, but restoring a busted up mech like that actually sounds
like it would be a fun challenge. Hope the hanger can be fixed with minimal
fuss but I think you may be right, a frame builder might be needed here. It
always baffled me that Riv didn’t adopt replaceable hangers at some point
along the line.


On Sun, Jul 23, 2023 at 3:20 PM D D  wrote:

> Eric,
>
> Sorry to hear about your misadventure. Thanks for the photo of the
> pretzel. Did the photo you originally pulled over to take turn out to be
> worth it?
>
> Dustin in VA
>
> On Jul 23, 2023, at 3:13 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>
> 
> Hey gang — I was out for a Sunday ride and stopped to take a picture. I
> rolled to the side of the road and did not see the culvert, hidden with
> fresh grass clippings. I tumbled over at low speed. I'm fine!
>
> When I stood up I noticed my drive-side bar end shifter had rotated 90º.
> And my derailer hanger and the derailer were bent. I spun the crank while
> off the bike and it seemed to move okay so I thought I'd give it a go as a
> single speed.
>
> I pedaled for a few strokes, then nudged the shifter. It was at that time
> the derailer turned upside down and inside out, bending into the spokes and
> throwing the chain. It was really fun!
>
> 
>
>
> This is my Hillborne, my most-ridden bike. I'll see if the hanger can be
> bent but I have a feeling it will require some work from a frame builder.
> That's a Suntour Cyclone. Fortunately I have five of them (including this
> one). You might recall the cage tension spring in my previous Cyclone
> recently failed. This is one of the replacements I picked up. It was in
> excellent shape but now it's going to the salvage bin.
>
> While I was waiting for a ride four people stopped to ask if they could
> help me. One was a cyclist who said "You need anything?" I replied "I
> need derailer hanger, a rear mech and a welding torch!"
>
> Hope your weekend rides weren't so mechanically eventful.
>
> Eric
>
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Re: [RBW] Tried and liked: Suntour Cyclone pretzel

[D D]

Eric,Sorry to hear about your misadventure. Thanks for the photo of the pretzel. Did the photo you originally pulled over to take turn out to be worth it?  Dustin in VAOn Jul 23, 2023, at 3:13 PM, Eric Marth  wrote:Hey gang — I was out for a Sunday ride and stopped to take a picture. I rolled to the side of the road and did not see the culvert, hidden with fresh grass clippings. I tumbled over at low speed. I'm fine! When I stood up I noticed my drive-side bar end shifter had rotated 90º. And my derailer hanger and the derailer were bent. I spun the crank while off the bike and it seemed to move okay so I thought I'd give it a go as a single speed. I pedaled for a few strokes, then nudged the shifter. It was at that time the derailer turned upside down and inside out, bending into the spokes and throwing the chain. It was really fun!This is my Hillborne, my most-ridden bike. I'll see if the hanger can be bent but I have a feeling it will require some work from a frame builder. That's a Suntour Cyclone. Fortunately I have five of them (including this one). You might recall the cage tension spring in my previous Cyclone recently failed. This is one of the replacements I picked up. It was in excellent shape but now it's going to the salvage bin. While I was waiting for a ride four people stopped to ask if they could help me. One was a cyclist who said "You need anything?" I replied "I need derailer hanger, a rear mech and a welding torch!"Hope your weekend rides weren't so mechanically eventful. Eric



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[RBW] FS: 64cm Clem Smith Jr. L

[Mitch]

Hey all! For sale is my minty fresh Clem L in the rare "Grilver" colorway. 
Bought months ago when i was looking for my dream bike (65cm clem h) and 
had given up hope of finding one. A month later I found one! This bike has 
seen zero miles from me and MAYBE a couple hundred from the previous owner. 
Selling as Frame,Fork,Headset, Seatpost! Seatpost is scratched as the lug 
dug into it from previous owner. Shown in photos.

I am located in San Francisco and hoping for a local sale to avoid shipping 
charges and damage to the frame but could ship at buyers expense.

Let me know if you have any questions!!

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7640192924.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: bike mechanic in Boise

[James Simeri]

Thank you, ill check it out

On Sun, Jul 23, 2023, 10:20 Teague Scott  wrote:

> You might try Ryan at Bike Touring News on 36th and Hill. He’s a solid
> dude. They used to sell Rivs. Since he took over the shop pretty much
> focuses on Surly, but he still stocks excellent parts and is really
> knowledgeable about bicycle adventuring in Idaho.
>
> - Teague in Boise
>
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> Hi, is there anyone with knowledge of Boise, Idaho who can recommend a
>> bike mechanic? Thanks in advance for any info.
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[RBW] FS: 60cm Gus complete or F/F/HS

[scott minor]

Parting w my 60cm (XL) Gus..  can sell complete or F/F/HS

Complete bike $3200

I bought the frame from Riv last year (last run).  It's a great riding 
bike.  Friction 2 x 10 drive train is super smooth.  Some specifics on 
components...

Wheels are XTR hubs with Cliffhanger rims, hand built

Drivetrain is Silver 32/22 crankset with external bottom bracket, XTR rapid 
rise rear derailleur with Shimano 10 speed cassette.  Silver2  shifters, 
friction shift w Riv thumb shifter mounts

Paul motolight V-brakes with Paul Love levers

Nitto S65 seat post, Not to 120mm faceplater stem with brass and steel 
spacers, Tosco 31.8 handlebars, Brooks B-17 carved saddle, VP pedals, 
removable ergo grips.  

Located in VA

pics here..

https://flic.kr/s/aHBqjANohX

thanks!  -Scott 


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[RBW] Re: ISO Roadini...or?

[Andrew Turner]

2 cents: don't get carried away with frame weight, especially when 
comparing steel frames. I'd focus more on geometry. I wanted my Roadini 
build to scratch the same itch but the long wheelbase didn't align with my 
idea of a zippy, skinny-tire road bike. 
Conversely, I had the opportunity to purchase a 15lb carbon road bike, and 
I thought, now THIS is the chance to see if weight really does make a 
difference, and it does...when you pick the thing up...When riding, I 
really don't notice a difference besides slghtly sketchier descending.

Stick with your gut and upcycle a cool 90s frame! And avoid weight weenie 
tendencies when it comes to steel bikes. 

On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 4:53:35 PM UTC-5 Valerie Yates wrote:

> I am not in the market for a Roadini but I love reading all these stories 
> and comparisons. Very fun topic. 
>
> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:46:37 AM UTC-6 JohnS wrote:
>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>> Wow, an '81 Sequoia! Those are very rare since only about 700 were made 
>> by hand. In '82 is when production ramped up. Please post a picture if you 
>> can.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:58:26 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice build, Bones!  B) 
>>>
>>> On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 11:05:30 AM UTC-4 Bones wrote:
>>>
 I started with an Appaloosa, which I built as a workhorse to ferry my 
 kids around. I wanted something without all the racks and utility so I 
 purchased a Hillborne. Great bike, but I found it too similar to my 
 Appaloosa so I moved it along and bought a Roadini. It was exactly what I 
 was looking for. No, it is not a delicate, lightweight bike. That is to my 
 benefit, as I can do stupid things to it without worrying about it being 
 damaged. It is a Rivendell, and it rides like all of my other Rivendells. 
 It currently resides at my parents' house, and I make a point to ride it 
 whenever I visit. I love that bike.

 [image: roadini2.jpg]

 Bones

 On Friday, July 21, 2023 at 1:49:48 AM UTC-4 chasenl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> [image: IMG_4997.jpeg]
>
> I am about 200 miles into my orange-ass roadini and I love it. Set up 
> with a23s, dirt drops, cavas and an analog 30mm stem. It is not flexy and 
> light like my rb 2. It is no sports car. Its like a benz, smooth and 
> comfy. 
> I have a 90 stumpjumper (that I’m convinced could be the worlds greatest 
> bicycle), and the roadini is v similar, minus canti post, add practical 
> geometry. It is definitely stout, which makes the lack of rack mounts 
> annoying, but its not t stout. To me, it feels like a road tourer, 
> not 
> a zippy speed machine. I think a crust mallochio or lightning bolt might 
> be 
> lighter/flexier/zippier. 
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 10:03:16 PM UTC-4 Doug H. wrote:
>
>> This paragraph is from Will's recent email... If this sounds like 
>> what you're looking for then I say buy one. 
>>
>> "Yes, the Roadini is heavier than a carbon frame, but, and even 
>> though it's a cliche phrase at this point, *it rides light* and I 
>> don't care if I'm two minutes slower than my alternate-universe self who 
>> rides a carbon bike. I still feel fast on it, and I'm not racing anybody 
>> anyway, even myself. My bike priorities are safety, comfort, 
>> reliability, 
>> and the ability to stretch the bike beyond it's stated purpose. Most of 
>> you 
>> aren't able to come test ride one before you buy, but those that do 
>> invariably say something like, "it's faster than I thought it would 
>> be!". 
>> It's always been more about the rider than the frame, but I know what 
>> they 
>> mean."
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 9:14:40 PM UTC-4 brenton...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I have really fallen for these luscious new Roadini builds I've seen 
>>> at Riv and Blue Lug.
>>>
>>> I have a Sam Hillborne and love it. It's been through several 
>>> iterations of cockpit/racks/bags/brakes/wheels/tires and all have been 
>>> really fun. Right now it has flat bars with sweep, chunky 47mm tires, 
>>> and 
>>> is an excellent all around adventure/trail/camping ride. It's currently 
>>> my 
>>> only bike!
>>>
>>> Before the Sam, I rode 90s road bikes exclusively for 20 years, and 
>>> those worked great for city/commuting/neighborhood/pub rides. I've 
>>> heard 
>>> that the Roadini does NOT offer that kind of 
>>> ride/speed/feel/handling/gusto/whatever, from several folks in this 
>>> group.
>>>
>>> So am I fooling myself into thinking another $2500 Riv build is 
>>> going to scratch the itch? Or should I buy a <$500 Japanese Road Bike 
>>> that 
>>> can hold 33s and actually feel some performance?

[RBW] Re: bike mechanic in Boise

[Teague Scott]

You might try Ryan at Bike Touring News on 36th and Hill. He’s a solid 
dude. They used to sell Rivs. Since he took over the shop pretty much 
focuses on Surly, but he still stocks excellent parts and is really 
knowledgeable about bicycle adventuring in Idaho.

- Teague in Boise

On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 12:32:45 PM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:

> Hi, is there anyone with knowledge of Boise, Idaho who can recommend a 
> bike mechanic? Thanks in advance for any info.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Using Your Rivendell Vs. Being Precious: A Spectrum

[danielle da cruz]

Joyce, thank you for your kind words and for sharing that story! It 
immediately reminded me of a quote from a Zen master that I've spent time 
reflecting on, but never around my bike until now:

Die while you are alive, and be absolutely dead. Then do whatever you want: 
it's all good. 

Your brother sounds like he's got this whole liberation thing down :)))

Yours in RivSister solidarity,
Danielle
On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 1:55:52 PM UTC-4 JAS wrote:

> Danielle,
> Thanks for sharing your story.  It's such a pleasure to read a well 
> written tale and I shuddered at the description of your pristine Cheviot 
> losing the battle with concrete.  I'm looking forward to the images of 
> diaper swaddling!  
>
> Your story reminded me of some advice my older brother gave my younger 
> brother.  Both of them avid outdoorsy hunters/fishers/campers/boaters, they 
> drive pick-ups for their adventures.  Younger bro gets a brand new Ford and 
> doesn't want to drive a particular road because his new baby is going to 
> get scratched.  Older bro says, "Find a track that is overgrown with brush 
> and drive your truck through it.  It will get scratched up and you'll never 
> have to worry about it again."  So much for precious truck finishes!  (And 
> advice from older brothers...ha!)   
>
> Please keep posting and sharing your new bike decisions & adventures!
>
> RivSisters,
> --Joyce  (who has accepted the beausage on Clem, but is still cringing at 
> new scratches on Platy)
>
> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 8:47:43 AM UTC-7 daniell...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all for the kind and thoughtful responses!
>>
>> @Jason I get what you're saying and had been thinking about the 
>> Albastache for months. I do like the reach on it and the more assertive set 
>> up (why does aggressive feel wrong to me in the context of me biking??). 
>> What ultimately pulled me away was the brake set up. I put inverse levers 
>> on the Porteur and liked having my hand at the levers for my mostly city 
>> riding through traffic. Now you've got me thinking about the Albatross 
>> upside down :)
>>
>> @Jock I too hope he knows how lucky he is! At the time it happened I 
>> didn't even mention it to him, knowing how much he'd beat himself up if he 
>> knew what happened in a moment of carelessness. We had a riding date out to 
>> dinner last night and I mentioned over a beer that I shared this story that 
>> he of course didn't remember, having never been told. He asked me to show 
>> him my post...I declined :p
>>
>> @Johnny Truly appreciate hearing this from someone who's tried both! I'm 
>> also really drawn to the beauty of that bar and am dreaming up elaborate 
>> bar tape combos a la Grant and Blue Lug. I'm still thinking I might want to 
>> shave off a bit the swept back length if it wouldn't compromise anything 
>>
>> @Kim Thank you, great advice and wise move, especially thinking of 
>> anytime it's put on the rack to accompany us on vacation (looking at you 
>> @Leah and your upcoming trip). Maybe it'll only be the Chev that rides the 
>> rack. Maybe I'll just accept that inevitable chips and scratches that are 
>> sure to come, like the scars we wear having lived. Or maybe I'll just 
>> gather all our old cloth diapers and swaddle it for the ride...
>>
>> On Saturday, July 22, 2023 at 11:08:46 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I was reminded of you guys today when I was looking at my bike. My most 
>>> precious raspberry one is definitely showing minor signs of use. It’s 
>>> dirty. Gritty, even. And the Platypus decal is marred (just a tiny bit) and 
>>> I’m seeing small paint chips begin to form.
>>> [image: image0.jpeg][image: image1.jpeg]
>>>
>>> I am (unexpectedly) comforted by this, because it means that the bike is 
>>> having adventures and serving its purpose. I am going to be putting 4 bikes 
>>> on my rack for a bike overnight I’m doing with the women of my bike club. I 
>>> am rather nervous about the jostling and subsequent paint damage that could 
>>> occur, but I’ve decided it’s worth the risk to have the experience of a 
>>> real bike adventure.
>>>
>>> I was grinning to myself remembering my old Betty, the first “nice” bike 
>>> I ever had, and how I put all kinds of marks on it and was totally 
>>> unbothered. I didn’t know it was tragic to mark up your bike at the time. 
>>> Working on getting back to that!
>>>
>>> I know these imperfections are pretty minor, but hey, it’s progress in 
>>> the life of this bike!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Jul 21, 2023, at 9:43 PM, Kim H.  wrote:
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>> Danielle,
>>>
>>> As a suggestion in protecting your new Sergio Green Roadini bicycle, 
>>> you might want to use some this helicopter tape. I bought some with plenty 
>>> left over from my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike in protecting her against the 
>>> elements.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QC6H90/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o07_s00?ie=UTF8=1
>>>
>>> BTW... I love your storytelling,