[RBW] Re: Looking for: Tektro R559 Spring

[Pam Bikes]

I need some too.  I called Tektro.  They used to have a part# for the 
springs b/c this is a weak spot in the manufacturing process.  Look closely 
and you can see an indention which seems to be a weak.  I'm glad I'm not 
the only one having this issue.  

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 9:37:39 AM UTC-4 Pete P wrote:

> Thomas,
> My Atlantis 2006 has Tektro Oryx cantilevers. I have broken 2 springs
> already. I found in McMaster some torsion springs 9271k681 for right hand
> and 9271k615 for left. They now cost about a dollar apiece. they come 6 in 
> a bag.
> They were put in service 8 years ago. No problems. Your springs might be
> different.
> Pete
>
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 8:10:50 PM UTC-5 Thomas Blak wrote:
>
>> Shot in the dark, does anyone know if you can purchase a spring for the 
>> Tektro R559?  I have done my Google searches and came up empty handed. I 
>> will just purchase a new brake if I have to but I prefer to find the 
>> spring. My Sam Hillborne will thank you. [image: IMG_6232.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Stuck shifter cable head

[Pam Bikes]

Tried the awl, then a small drill bit from behind then the guy at REI put 
it in a vise and used a hammer and small punch to get it out.  This is a 
silver shifter that is ever so slightly smaller hole for the cable head.  
Thanks all for your help!

p.s.  Now I have yet another front shifter w/another broken power ratchet. 
UGH!  Maybe I can make one good one from the 3 broken ones but how to keep 
it all together?  The plate w/the pressfit looking rivet - how do I do that?

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 9:37:05 PM UTC-4 Ian A wrote:

> I had this very problem, and the cable head eventually freed with 
> persistent prodding with an awl. A search on the Triathlon forum showed 
> others had the same issue and soaking the cable in lube/oil/WD40 overnight 
> seems a good idea.
>
>
> https://forum.slowtwitch.com/forum/Slowtwitch_Forums_C1/Triathlon_Forum_F1/Wrench_help!__Cable_stuck_in_bar_end_shifter_P3348164/
>
> IanA
> On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 7:17:34 PM UTC-6 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> I'm pushing it w/pliers and it is stuck.  Not moving at all.  I put it in 
>> the freezer hoping it'll come out tomorrow.  Any other ideas?  I need to 
>> use this shifter lever and this cable is too short.
>>
>> On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 9:15:04 PM UTC-4 Michael Connors wrote:
>>
>>> Try leaving a 1-2 inch tail and using a pliers to twist it and push it 
>>> out
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1972 CILO SPRINTX SPORTS TOURING BICYCLE

[Kim H.]

@John - Thank-you for the compliment and praise regarding my road bike. I 
appreciate it. 
and Thank-you for your encouragement with the sale of my bike, as well. I 
would delight in seeing it going to a new home. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

Fall is returning with cooler temperatures and rain at last.

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 4:12:31 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:

Wow, that's a really beautiful bicycle, and you've obviously taken great 
care of it. Someone is going to be very pleased to ride this one around.

Good luck with the sale.

Cheers, John

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:02:24 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

I have for sale a 1972 Cilo Sprintx (Swiss made) sports touring bicycle. I 
have had this bike, since I bought it new in late 1973. It has been my main 
road bike for nearly 40 years. I have taken very good care it as a 
detailed-oriented person. I do not ride it any more. It is time to sell it.

The frame size is 57.785cm or 22.75”. The Stand over height is 81.59cm or 
32 1/8”. My PBH is 80.1 cm = 31.1”. With a long torso and short limbs, this 
bike fits me very comfortably. 

Mind you, the black paint job is not of the original color. It is a 
repaint. It was originally silver. Here is an original 1973 Cilo Sprintx, 
of which is very similar to the 1972 model:

https://bikeindex.org/bikes/61636 

The bike rides and handles like that of an European sports car; very nimble 
and fast. 

Information and history about Cilo:

https://diaryofacyclingnobody.com/cilo-cycles-the-factory-in-lausanne/

https://diaryofacyclingnobody.com/the-story-of-the-swiss-cilo-bicycle-company-and-bob-who-guards-the-bike-shed/
 

There is a lot of vintage extra spare parts and componentry that I would 
like to include in the sale of this bike. 

*Frame/Fork*: SIZE: 57.785cm or 22.75” - Reynolds 531 tubing and 
forks/stays. French BCM (Bocama) lugs and fork crown. Campagnolo drop outs 
front and rear. Custom added three water bottles cage mounts with screws on 
the frame and down tube cable housing stops. 120mm rear spacing and 100mm 
front spacing. I have a steel washer on the drive side inside the quick 
release skewer to space out the rear stay to accept the 6-cogged freewheel. 
The rear stays have not been cold set. 

*Serial Number#:* 72876 - ‘72’ representing 1972. It was also made in 
August (8), and was the 76th (76) frame of that race type made in August. 
The Sprintx was a variant of a criterium racer and won’t have had low range 
mountain gears on it that some of the other race bikes had.

*Rims: *Super Champion 36-hole f/r.

*Hubs: *Phil Wood 1st generation 36-hole with Campagnolo Nouvo Record quick 
release skewers.

*Tires: *700x30C IRC Tandem – 100 psi.

*Crankset: *T. A. Specialites Cyclotourist 170mm triple with T. A. 
52-45-26T rings.

*Chain: *New Shimano HG71

*Derailleurs: Front: *Suntour Cyclone (Model: FD-1300) with rare wide cage 
extension* Rear: *Suntour Cyclone GT (5905 2nd style). *Shifter: *Suntour 
friction bar-end ratchet shifters 

*Freewheel: *Suntour 13-34T Pro Compe (Ultra-6)

*Bottom Bracket: *Swiss threaded with a Phil Wood 119mm square and tapered 
spindle with Phil Wood Swiss threaded retainer rings.

*Handlebar: *?  - Randonneur type – make ? – distance between the lower 
drops is 17” C to C. 

*Stem: *Nitto Technomic 90mm

*Headset: *French threaded Campagnolo Nouvo Record  

*Brakes: *Campagnolo Nouvo Record complete with levers and side-pull 
calipers. The brake hoods have been replaced with replicas without the the 
Campagnolo words and world globes. Scott Mathauser brake pad inserts.

*Saddle: *Brooks B-17 black leather saddle basically new. 

*Seatpost: *SR Custom 26.6mm post.

*EXTRA/SPARE COMPONENTRY:*

*1.*NOS single white Bluemels rear fender with reflector, plus one set 
of used Bluemel fenders and sgr.

*2.*One Silca black frame pump.

*3.*Front water bottle handlebar cage and bottle.

*4.*One pair of NOS Campagnolo Nouvo Record brake levers without gum 
hoods.

*5.*Spare Suntour Cyclone GT rear and front derailleurs in excellent 
condition.

*6.*2 attachable metal rear underside saddle loops

*7.*Vintage 1976 orange Eclipse Professional handlebar bag with a rare 
Eclipse “Seat-Post Thing”. 

*8.*One bike’s worth of used Scott Mathauser brake pad inserts.

*9.*NIB/NOS Suntour freewheel – 14-34T

*10.  *NOS Christophe black toe straps with two used pairs 
of Christopher toe clips.

*11.  *Used Silca 21” orange frame pump

*12.  *Leather washers for Silca frame pump – one new and 
two used

*13.  *NOS Wolber 700c 36-hole M58 rim

*14.  *Used Super Champion 700c 36-hole rim in good 
condition.

*15.  *NOS/NIB Suntour Ultra-6 spd freewheel – 14-32T

*16.  *NOS/NIB Blackburn Mtn. Mirror

*17.  *NOS Suntour Cyclone GT rear derailleur

*18.  *Two used Suntour Cyclone front derailleurs 

Re: [RBW] Babies on bikes

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I thought I was extremely stable with my Burley solo.  Kids started at
about 11 months with helmet.  I had books and music with them and they
loved it.  (Slept a lot too!)  I had them on a tandem with child stoker kid
at 2 1/2 and later tandem + burley followed by triplet with both my kids.
I had a rear seat on my mountain bike.  It was much more unstable because
when they moved around, the balance changed dramatically.  No problems
moving around in the trailer.

Bicycling often was a way to give my wife a break, so I biked a lot with my
kids!  I just dropped off my son at college, so time flies!

Enjoy,
Toshi

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[RBW] Re: FS: 1972 CILO SPRINTX SPORTS TOURING BICYCLE

[John Rinker]

Wow, that's a really beautiful bicycle, and you've obviously taken great 
care of it. Someone is going to be very pleased to ride this one around.

Good luck with the sale.

Cheers, John

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 9:02:24 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> I have for sale a 1972 Cilo Sprintx (Swiss made) sports touring bicycle. I 
> have had this bike, since I bought it new in late 1973. It has been my main 
> road bike for nearly 40 years. I have taken very good care it as a 
> detailed-oriented person. I do not ride it any more. It is time to sell it.
>
> The frame size is 57.785cm or 22.75”. The Stand over height is 81.59cm or 
> 32 1/8”. My PBH is 80.1 cm = 31.1”. With a long torso and short limbs, this 
> bike fits me very comfortably. 
>
> Mind you, the black paint job is not of the original color. It is a 
> repaint. It was originally silver. Here is an original 1973 Cilo Sprintx, 
> of which is very similar to the 1972 model:
>
> https://bikeindex.org/bikes/61636 
>
> The bike rides and handles like that of an European sports car; very 
> nimble and fast. 
>
> Information and history about Cilo:
>
> https://diaryofacyclingnobody.com/cilo-cycles-the-factory-in-lausanne/
>
>
> https://diaryofacyclingnobody.com/the-story-of-the-swiss-cilo-bicycle-company-and-bob-who-guards-the-bike-shed/
>  
>
> There is a lot of vintage extra spare parts and componentry that I would 
> like to include in the sale of this bike. 
>
> *Frame/Fork*: SIZE: 57.785cm or 22.75” - Reynolds 531 tubing and 
> forks/stays. French BCM (Bocama) lugs and fork crown. Campagnolo drop 
> outs front and rear. Custom added three water bottles cage mounts with 
> screws on the frame and down tube cable housing stops. 120mm rear spacing 
> and 100mm front spacing. I have a steel washer on the drive side inside the 
> quick release skewer to space out the rear stay to accept the 6-cogged 
> freewheel. The rear stays have not been cold set. 
>
> *Serial Number#:* 72876 - ‘72’ representing 1972. It was also made in 
> August (8), and was the 76th (76) frame of that race type made in August. 
> The Sprintx was a variant of a criterium racer and won’t have had low range 
> mountain gears on it that some of the other race bikes had.
>
> *Rims: *Super Champion 36-hole f/r.
>
> *Hubs: *Phil Wood 1st generation 36-hole with Campagnolo Nouvo Record 
> quick release skewers.
>
> *Tires: *700x30C IRC Tandem – 100 psi.
>
> *Crankset: *T. A. Specialites Cyclotourist 170mm triple with T. A. 
> 52-45-26T rings.
>
> *Chain: *New Shimano HG71
>
> *Derailleurs: Front: *Suntour Cyclone (Model: FD-1300) with rare wide 
> cage extension* Rear: *Suntour Cyclone GT (5905 2nd style). *Shifter: 
> *Suntour 
> friction bar-end ratchet shifters 
>
> *Freewheel: *Suntour 13-34T Pro Compe (Ultra-6)
>
> *Bottom Bracket: *Swiss threaded with a Phil Wood 119mm square and 
> tapered spindle with Phil Wood Swiss threaded retainer rings.
>
> *Handlebar: *?  - Randonneur type – make ? – distance between the lower 
> drops is 17” C to C. 
>
> *Stem: *Nitto Technomic 90mm
>
> *Headset: *French threaded Campagnolo Nouvo Record  
>
> *Brakes: *Campagnolo Nouvo Record complete with levers and side-pull 
> calipers. The brake hoods have been replaced with replicas without the the 
> Campagnolo words and world globes. Scott Mathauser brake pad inserts.
>
> *Saddle: *Brooks B-17 black leather saddle basically new. 
>
> *Seatpost: *SR Custom 26.6mm post.
>
> *EXTRA/SPARE COMPONENTRY:*
>
> *1.*NOS single white Bluemels rear fender with reflector, plus one 
> set of used Bluemel fenders and sgr.
>
> *2.*One Silca black frame pump.
>
> *3.*Front water bottle handlebar cage and bottle.
>
> *4.*One pair of NOS Campagnolo Nouvo Record brake levers without gum 
> hoods.
>
> *5.*Spare Suntour Cyclone GT rear and front derailleurs in excellent 
> condition.
>
> *6.*2 attachable metal rear underside saddle loops
>
> *7.*Vintage 1976 orange Eclipse Professional handlebar bag with a 
> rare Eclipse “Seat-Post Thing”. 
>
> *8.*One bike’s worth of used Scott Mathauser brake pad inserts.
>
> *9.*NIB/NOS Suntour freewheel – 14-34T
>
> *10.  *NOS Christophe black toe straps with two used 
> pairs of Christopher toe clips.
>
> *11.  *Used Silca 21” orange frame pump
>
> *12.  *Leather washers for Silca frame pump – one new and 
> two used
>
> *13.  *NOS Wolber 700c 36-hole M58 rim
>
> *14.  *Used Super Champion 700c 36-hole rim in good 
> condition.
>
> *15.  *NOS/NIB Suntour Ultra-6 spd freewheel – 14-32T
>
> *16.  *NOS/NIB Blackburn Mtn. Mirror
>
> *17.  *NOS Suntour Cyclone GT rear derailleur
>
> *18.  *Two used Suntour Cyclone front derailleurs in good 
> condition
>
> *19.  *One used Suntour double down tube cable stop in 
> good condition
>
> *20.  *8 extra Bluemel fender 

Re: [RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

[Fullylugged]

Tell Braelyn when you see her next that we all say hello!

On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 10:26:42 AM UTC-5 upyou...@yahoo.com wrote:

> [image: Mister Fox]
>
> Leah,
> I love this story and I can see the whole thing in my mind.  How wonderful!
> Love, Your RivSister, Kate
>
> *upyou...@yahoo.com*
> *Kate Gilson*
> [image: Image Preview]
>
>
> [image: Mister Fox]
> [image: Paperless Post] 
> 
>  Yahoo 
> Mail Stationery 
> On Wednesday, August 30, 2023 at 10:11:21 AM CDT, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>  wrote: 
>
>
> Every other Tuesday, when her dad has her, this little thing waits at the 
> end of her driveway with her dad and they jump on the back. She smiles the 
> entire time, and we don’t slow down for her. She can hang a few miles, then 
> she thanks us and she and her dad head for home. She’s our baby, but we 
> cannot call her that to her face. But she is. It’s a pretty far age gap 
> from us to her, age 8. I can’t wait for her to join us for real as she gets 
> a little older. You just don’t often get experiences that are this level of 
> adorable, but here we are, getting one every other Tuesday!
> Leah
>
> On Friday, August 4, 2023 at 2:15:49 PM UTC-4 Bikie#4646 wrote:
>
> Leah,
>
> As a grandfather of three - two now grown - this was fun to read. I am 
> sure the little girl caught your enthusiasm. When I can, I slow down and 
> call out, "Nice bike!" to very young riders I encounter on our local trail. 
> We are all ambassadors.
>
> Paul Germain
> Midlothian, Va.
>
> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 9:12:31 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
> I really do have the sweetest, cutest story from the Tuesday night women’s 
> ride. 
>
> We had a small group of 7 riders that night. We were several miles in when 
> suddenly from behind, I heard two unfamiliar voices, one belonging to a 
> child, and one belonging to a man. I looked back and was astounded - there 
> at the end of our peloton was an 8 year old girl on a tiny blue Trek bike, 
> wearing her matching blue helmet, blonde hair flying and huge grin on full 
> display. I looked at her father, helmetless and riding his own bike. He 
> wore a look half proud and half sheepish. “This is Braelyn, and she’s been 
> watching you go by every week,” he said. “And she’s been wanting to ride 
> with you; she said, ‘Daddy, Tuesday night at 6:50 they’ll be here.’ And she 
> got ready so she could join you tonight.” I looked at my speedometer…we 
> were riding at over 17 mph. She moved up behind me and another woman fell 
> in behind her. 
>
> “Ok, honey, you listen for when I call out things like stick or hole, ok?” 
>
> “Ok!” she said, flashing a Cheshire Cat grin. And we pedaled on, flying 
> over country roads with our tiny companion and her daddy. She stayed with 
> us for a few miles and then they peeled off after the second set of 
> railroad tracks. I wish I had gotten a photo, but maybe next week we’ll see 
> her again and I’ll get my chance.
>
> I’m sure we were in violation of like 30 club rules but Michigan doesn’t 
> scold you for things like these. Braelyn and her little Trek, legs flying 
> and hair streaming…I doubt we will ever see anything better than her on the 
> Tuesday Night Ride.
> On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 4:38:01 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Delicious!
>
> On Fri, Sep 9, 2022 at 3:58 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ... Some guy will come find me at my vehicle and tell me how I’m doing it 
> wrong. After getting lectured about how I could go 25% faster if I had this 
> bike and narrow tires, blah, blah, I say, “Well, I just beat you, so I 
> don’t think my bike is the problem.”  
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Re: [RBW] Babies on bikes

[Patrick Moore]

I'm sorry, but I'm waxing nostalgic, so here are more baby-on-bike-or-trike
vignettes. Catie graduated from college in June and is visiting us for a
month before a planned move to NYC with friends. She's with me now.

Age barely 2, I bought her a Radio Flyer toddler tricycle with fat 8" (?)
pneumatic tires and -- odd! -- a freewheel on the direct-drive front wheel
pedals *but no blinking brake!* and a *decoupable* parent-steering tiller
in the rear, together with net bag for miscellanea. I live 1/4 mile from an
Albertson's and she'd ride through the aisles while I filled the bag with
groceries, the rest carried home by hand.

Later she had the typical sh*te 12" wheel toddler bike with training wheels
and she'd ride that through the grocery store aisles. Recall one traumatic
trip home, me overburdened with half a dozen grocery sacks in both hands,
and a bicycle upset negotiating a ADA sidewalk ramp with resulting howling
and snickers from passers-by. A Strider would have worked much better.

Over and out.


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[RBW] Re: FS: Nitto R14, Nitto/Ocean Air Cycles Erlen racks

[scott minor]

*Erlen sold*.  

R14 available.

Thanks!  



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Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

[Sally Bidleman]

Love back! And more RNs...my (RN) son is marrying his (RN) girlfriend in 2
weeks...woo-hoo...

Have a great day...I'm putting on my new Crane bell today and going for a
ride:)

Sally

On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 11:25 AM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> If you’re a RivSister who is also a nurse I love you extra! A double
> sisterhood.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 3, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Bones  wrote:
>
> For whatever reason I have never considered a trailer. I always assumed
> we could communicate and enjoy the ride better if the kids were on the bike
> with me. I started my oldest at nine months, which was when the tiniest
> helmet I could find would fit her massive head. The front mount seat is the
> best in my opinion. You can interact a lot more and they get to see
> everything you see. Once she outgrew that I moved her to a rear seat, and
> put lil man in the front. Eventually they reached the weight limits and I
> switched over to a cargo bike (Xtracycle Stoker). Now big sis, lil man and
> baby girl all fit on the back. We go everywhere on it. Love it. I was able
> to get rid of a car and I can accommodate all three kids easily.
>
> Bones
>
> On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 12:06:31 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>
>> We used a Burley double-wide when our kids were 2 and 3.5...We hooked it
>> to my husband's old Giant mountain bike. Traffic was non-existent or very
>> light since we lived on a small island. The kids liked it because they
>> could bring various stuffed animals, so we could get a long-ish ride in
>> ...When we moved to San Diego, the trailer seemed too wide for the streets
>> so we got a Tag-a-long...it didn't seem as safe and, by that time, the kids
>> wanted to ride their own bikes...so we didn't use it much. (P.S. I'm
>> another nurse...seems like nurses choose Rivendell, ha!)
>>
>> On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:28:45 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> +1 for a trailer. One advantage of a trailer is that you can use it with
>>> a bike that is not well suited for a heavy load on the rear rack; and I
>>> agree, they don't change the handling and feel of the bike as much as a big
>>> and high rear-rack weight does. And they allow easier mounting.
>>>
>>> Mine was a "doublewide" and let me combine child hauling with grocery
>>> shopping: my daughter and I would combine bicycle fun with grocery shopping
>>> on Saturday mornings, she on one side, the paper grocery sacks on the
>>> other, usually with a helium balloon or two in our slipstream.
>>>
>>> My tractor was a early-edition Raleigh Technium sports tourer, a tank
>>> with long stays and flexy tubes stuck into gaspipe lugs, but with 32 mm
>>> tires (fat at the time, early '00s) it was very plush. I had it set up with
>>> a 67" fixed gear, just right: low enough to grunt Catie and groceries up
>>> minor hills or pull the doublewide against headwinds, fast enough to keep
>>> up with modest tailwinds.
>>>
>>> You don't need a name brand. I forget what I had; it was decent but not
>>> a Burley or a Thule; Avocet? It worked fine and by the time you get to the
>>> point of experiencing the longevity of an expensive brand your child has
>>> long outgrown it. I did later get a used Burley trail-a-bike but by the
>>> time my daughter was old enough to ride it she was embarrassed to be seen
>>> on it and demanded her own bike.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 7:05 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>>>
 A trailer is the safest option. If you go that route I would consider a
 Thule or older Chariot (these can be had very inexpensively). They have
 weight adjustable suspension and you can use an infant sling. The general
 age recommendation is to wait until 12-18 months but we certainly started
 closer to 6 months (My wife and I are both nurse practitioners and got the
 Ok from his pediatrician). It will very from child to child but once they
 are demonstrating strong head and neck control they should be ok in an
 infant sling.

 I personally prefer a Thule Maxi seat on a rack behind me. It’s just
 nice not having to deal with the weight and logistics of a trailer. We only
 just started doing that on our Cargo E bike now that he’s 16 months and
 gets to ride to daycare.

 Eliot

 On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 5:54 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
 jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Kushan,
>
> Oh, I so know that excitement you feel about introducing your baby to
> biking. It’s wonderful that you want to share it and it will be such a
> bonding experience between the both of you as he grows up.
>
> Is the plan to put him in a bike seat on your bike? Or in a cargo
> bike? In a car seat inside a cargo bike? I think the last option is the
> only one I could safely recommend, and maybe not even that. I am a nurse,
> and I won’t ever forget the part of our pediatrics training that talked
> about the microtears that can be caused even by bouncing a baby too 

Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

[Leah Peterson]

If you’re a RivSister who is also a nurse I love you extra! A double sisterhood.Sent from my iPhoneOn Sep 3, 2023, at 12:52 PM, Bones  wrote:For whatever reason I have never considered a trailer. I always assumed we could communicate and enjoy the ride better if the kids were on the bike with me. I started my oldest at nine months, which was when the tiniest helmet I could find would fit her massive head. The front mount seat is the best in my opinion. You can interact a lot more and they get to see everything you see. Once she outgrew that I moved her to a rear seat, and put lil man in the front. Eventually they reached the weight limits and I switched over to a cargo bike (Xtracycle Stoker). Now big sis, lil man and baby girl all fit on the back. We go everywhere on it. Love it. I was able to get rid of a car and I can accommodate all three kids easily.BonesOn Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 12:06:31 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:We used a Burley double-wide when our kids were 2 and 3.5...We hooked it to my husband's old Giant mountain bike. Traffic was non-existent or very light since we lived on a small island. The kids liked it because they could bring various stuffed animals, so we could get a long-ish ride in ...When we moved to San Diego, the trailer seemed too wide for the streets so we got a Tag-a-long...it didn't seem as safe and, by that time, the kids wanted to ride their own bikes...so we didn't use it much. (P.S. I'm another nurse...seems like nurses choose Rivendell, ha!)On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:28:45 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:+1 for a trailer. One advantage of a trailer is that you can use it with a bike that is not well suited for a heavy load on the rear rack; and I agree, they don't change the handling and feel of the bike as much as a big and high rear-rack weight does. And they allow easier mounting.Mine was a "doublewide" and let me combine child hauling with grocery shopping: my daughter and I would combine bicycle fun with grocery shopping on Saturday mornings, she on one side, the paper grocery sacks on the other, usually with a helium balloon or two in our slipstream.My tractor was a early-edition Raleigh Technium sports tourer, a tank with long stays and flexy tubes stuck into gaspipe lugs, but with 32 mm tires (fat at the time, early '00s) it was very plush. I had it set up with a 67" fixed gear, just right: low enough to grunt Catie and groceries up minor hills or pull the doublewide against headwinds, fast enough to keep up with modest tailwinds.You don't need a name brand. I forget what I had; it was decent but not a Burley or a Thule; Avocet? It worked fine and by the time you get to the point of experiencing the longevity of an expensive brand your child has long outgrown it. I did later get a used Burley trail-a-bike but by the time my daughter was old enough to ride it she was embarrassed to be seen on it and demanded her own bike.On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 7:05 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:A trailer is the safest option. If you go that route I would consider a Thule or older Chariot (these can be had very inexpensively). They have weight adjustable suspension and you can use an infant sling. The general age recommendation is to wait until 12-18 months but we certainly started closer to 6 months (My wife and I are both nurse practitioners and got the Ok from his pediatrician). It will very from child to child but once they are demonstrating strong head and neck control they should be ok in an infant sling.I personally prefer a Thule Maxi seat on a rack behind me. It’s just nice not having to deal with the weight and logistics of a trailer. We only just started doing that on our Cargo E bike now that he’s 16 months and gets to ride to daycare. EliotOn Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 5:54 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  wrote:Hi Kushan,Oh, I so know that excitement you feel about introducing your baby to biking. It’s wonderful that you want to share it and it will be such a bonding experience between the both of you as he grows up.Is the plan to put him in a bike seat on your bike? Or in a cargo bike? In a car seat inside a cargo bike? I think the last option is the only one I could safely recommend, and maybe not even that. I am a nurse, and I won’t ever forget the part of our pediatrics training that talked about the microtears that can be caused even by bouncing a baby too hard. You can damage their little eyes, their brains, and their neck muscles, which really aren’t meant to support much until after one year of age. Now, if a pediatrician happens to be on here and would like to offer advice, I’d love to hear it, but from what I can remember in peds training, it wouldn’t be safe to take baby on a bike seat until next year. I’m sorry!LeahOn Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:58:35 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:Looking for wisdom and advice from the Riv community on riding bikes with babies on them. At what age did you start? What seats, trailers, etc did you 

Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

[Bones]

For whatever reason I have never considered a trailer. I always assumed we 
could communicate and enjoy the ride better if the kids were on the bike 
with me. I started my oldest at nine months, which was when the tiniest 
helmet I could find would fit her massive head. The front mount seat is the 
best in my opinion. You can interact a lot more and they get to see 
everything you see. Once she outgrew that I moved her to a rear seat, and 
put lil man in the front. Eventually they reached the weight limits and I 
switched over to a cargo bike (Xtracycle Stoker). Now big sis, lil man and 
baby girl all fit on the back. We go everywhere on it. Love it. I was able 
to get rid of a car and I can accommodate all three kids easily.

Bones

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 12:06:31 PM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:

> We used a Burley double-wide when our kids were 2 and 3.5...We hooked it 
> to my husband's old Giant mountain bike. Traffic was non-existent or very 
> light since we lived on a small island. The kids liked it because they 
> could bring various stuffed animals, so we could get a long-ish ride in 
> ...When we moved to San Diego, the trailer seemed too wide for the streets 
> so we got a Tag-a-long...it didn't seem as safe and, by that time, the kids 
> wanted to ride their own bikes...so we didn't use it much. (P.S. I'm 
> another nurse...seems like nurses choose Rivendell, ha!)
>
> On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:28:45 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> +1 for a trailer. One advantage of a trailer is that you can use it with 
>> a bike that is not well suited for a heavy load on the rear rack; and I 
>> agree, they don't change the handling and feel of the bike as much as a big 
>> and high rear-rack weight does. And they allow easier mounting.
>>
>> Mine was a "doublewide" and let me combine child hauling with grocery 
>> shopping: my daughter and I would combine bicycle fun with grocery shopping 
>> on Saturday mornings, she on one side, the paper grocery sacks on the 
>> other, usually with a helium balloon or two in our slipstream.
>>
>> My tractor was a early-edition Raleigh Technium sports tourer, a tank 
>> with long stays and flexy tubes stuck into gaspipe lugs, but with 32 mm 
>> tires (fat at the time, early '00s) it was very plush. I had it set up with 
>> a 67" fixed gear, just right: low enough to grunt Catie and groceries up 
>> minor hills or pull the doublewide against headwinds, fast enough to keep 
>> up with modest tailwinds.
>>
>> You don't need a name brand. I forget what I had; it was decent but not a 
>> Burley or a Thule; Avocet? It worked fine and by the time you get to the 
>> point of experiencing the longevity of an expensive brand your child has 
>> long outgrown it. I did later get a used Burley trail-a-bike but by the 
>> time my daughter was old enough to ride it she was embarrassed to be seen 
>> on it and demanded her own bike.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 7:05 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>>
>>> A trailer is the safest option. If you go that route I would consider a 
>>> Thule or older Chariot (these can be had very inexpensively). They have 
>>> weight adjustable suspension and you can use an infant sling. The general 
>>> age recommendation is to wait until 12-18 months but we certainly started 
>>> closer to 6 months (My wife and I are both nurse practitioners and got the 
>>> Ok from his pediatrician). It will very from child to child but once they 
>>> are demonstrating strong head and neck control they should be ok in an 
>>> infant sling.
>>>
>>> I personally prefer a Thule Maxi seat on a rack behind me. It’s just 
>>> nice not having to deal with the weight and logistics of a trailer. We only 
>>> just started doing that on our Cargo E bike now that he’s 16 months and 
>>> gets to ride to daycare. 
>>>
>>> Eliot
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 5:54 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Kushan,

 Oh, I so know that excitement you feel about introducing your baby to 
 biking. It’s wonderful that you want to share it and it will be such a 
 bonding experience between the both of you as he grows up.

 Is the plan to put him in a bike seat on your bike? Or in a cargo bike? 
 In a car seat inside a cargo bike? I think the last option is the only one 
 I could safely recommend, and maybe not even that. I am a nurse, and I 
 won’t ever forget the part of our pediatrics training that talked about 
 the 
 microtears that can be caused even by bouncing a baby too hard. You can 
 damage their little eyes, their brains, and their neck muscles, which 
 really aren’t meant to support much until after one year of age. Now, if a 
 pediatrician happens to be on here and would like to offer advice, I’d 
 love 
 to hear it, but from what I can remember in peds training, it wouldn’t be 
 safe to take baby on a bike seat until next year. 

 I’m sorry!
 Leah

 

Re: [RBW] Re: Babies on bikes

[SallyG]

We used a Burley double-wide when our kids were 2 and 3.5...We hooked it to 
my husband's old Giant mountain bike. Traffic was non-existent or very 
light since we lived on a small island. The kids liked it because they 
could bring various stuffed animals, so we could get a long-ish ride in 
...When we moved to San Diego, the trailer seemed too wide for the streets 
so we got a Tag-a-long...it didn't seem as safe and, by that time, the kids 
wanted to ride their own bikes...so we didn't use it much. (P.S. I'm 
another nurse...seems like nurses choose Rivendell, ha!)

On Saturday, September 2, 2023 at 6:28:45 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> +1 for a trailer. One advantage of a trailer is that you can use it with a 
> bike that is not well suited for a heavy load on the rear rack; and I 
> agree, they don't change the handling and feel of the bike as much as a big 
> and high rear-rack weight does. And they allow easier mounting.
>
> Mine was a "doublewide" and let me combine child hauling with grocery 
> shopping: my daughter and I would combine bicycle fun with grocery shopping 
> on Saturday mornings, she on one side, the paper grocery sacks on the 
> other, usually with a helium balloon or two in our slipstream.
>
> My tractor was a early-edition Raleigh Technium sports tourer, a tank with 
> long stays and flexy tubes stuck into gaspipe lugs, but with 32 mm tires 
> (fat at the time, early '00s) it was very plush. I had it set up with a 67" 
> fixed gear, just right: low enough to grunt Catie and groceries up minor 
> hills or pull the doublewide against headwinds, fast enough to keep up with 
> modest tailwinds.
>
> You don't need a name brand. I forget what I had; it was decent but not a 
> Burley or a Thule; Avocet? It worked fine and by the time you get to the 
> point of experiencing the longevity of an expensive brand your child has 
> long outgrown it. I did later get a used Burley trail-a-bike but by the 
> time my daughter was old enough to ride it she was embarrassed to be seen 
> on it and demanded her own bike.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 7:05 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:
>
>> A trailer is the safest option. If you go that route I would consider a 
>> Thule or older Chariot (these can be had very inexpensively). They have 
>> weight adjustable suspension and you can use an infant sling. The general 
>> age recommendation is to wait until 12-18 months but we certainly started 
>> closer to 6 months (My wife and I are both nurse practitioners and got the 
>> Ok from his pediatrician). It will very from child to child but once they 
>> are demonstrating strong head and neck control they should be ok in an 
>> infant sling.
>>
>> I personally prefer a Thule Maxi seat on a rack behind me. It’s just nice 
>> not having to deal with the weight and logistics of a trailer. We only just 
>> started doing that on our Cargo E bike now that he’s 16 months and gets to 
>> ride to daycare. 
>>
>> Eliot
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 2, 2023 at 5:54 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Kushan,
>>>
>>> Oh, I so know that excitement you feel about introducing your baby to 
>>> biking. It’s wonderful that you want to share it and it will be such a 
>>> bonding experience between the both of you as he grows up.
>>>
>>> Is the plan to put him in a bike seat on your bike? Or in a cargo bike? 
>>> In a car seat inside a cargo bike? I think the last option is the only one 
>>> I could safely recommend, and maybe not even that. I am a nurse, and I 
>>> won’t ever forget the part of our pediatrics training that talked about the 
>>> microtears that can be caused even by bouncing a baby too hard. You can 
>>> damage their little eyes, their brains, and their neck muscles, which 
>>> really aren’t meant to support much until after one year of age. Now, if a 
>>> pediatrician happens to be on here and would like to offer advice, I’d love 
>>> to hear it, but from what I can remember in peds training, it wouldn’t be 
>>> safe to take baby on a bike seat until next year. 
>>>
>>> I’m sorry!
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 10:58:35 PM UTC-4 Kushan wrote:
>>>
 Looking for wisdom and advice from the Riv community on riding bikes 
 with babies on them. At what age did you start? What seats, trailers, etc 
 did you use? Where did you ride? 

 My little one just turned 6 months old and I am itching to introduce 
 him to bike rides. He can sit on his own and does pretty well in carriers 
 (both facing in and out). He loves being outside and I would love to do a 
 ride with him on a car-free bike paths or (non-technical) dirt trails. 
 Most 
 online resources recommend biking with babies after 1 year of age but I am 
 not sure if that's based on any actual research. 

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[RBW] FS: SunRace CM983 11-46T 9-speed cassette

[Kim H.]

 I have a lightly used silver SunRace CM983 11-46T 9-speed cassette with 
less than 10 miles on it that I do not plan using again. 

$65.00, plus shipping 
Paypal payment.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA..

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[RBW] Re: Wheel Builder

[Josh C]

Yeah, I saw several recommendations for Sugar but their site showed a bunch 
of Astral and carbon hoops. I'm sure they can get in whatever you want but 
that's why I didn't initially reach out to them. Also, at least Peter White 
is on this side of the country. Him and his wife Linda seemed quite 
knowledgable.  I'll report back when I get the wheels and let y'all know 
how they turned out. 

On Sunday, September 3, 2023 at 8:20:13 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:

> Peter White is also a very good resource for insight on hubs and rims to 
> use for wheel builds. He always seems to have some things squirreled away 
> that would be just the thing for your build. Have an honest assessment of 
> your weight, riding, loads and other needs and he'll quote you up. He's 
> built several wheel sets for me and I have nothing but compliments. several 
> works for me too although not quite local. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 7:09:15 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Not close to you but I used Peter White on my last wheels and have been 
>> very pleased. He is meticulous. 
>>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 7:49:49 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. I've heard of Sugar but didn't think of that, I'll look into 
>>> them. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:13:14 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 I had several nice wheels over the years, including some Rich built. I 
 have to recommend Sugar wheel works. I had a set of SimWorks Stand-alone 
 rims (Velocity Cliffhanger) with CX ray spokes MI5 rear hub and Son front 
 and they were the nicest build I’ve ever seen by far. Great to work with 
 and the price was much better than some other options as well. 

 On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:56:10 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:

> Thanks Laing. I do have a set of VO rims on a bike that I recently 
> acquired and like them so far. I've ridden on them throughout the summer 
> quite a bit. I like that they come in a polished finish but the highest 
> hole count is 36. I'm not sure how they will hold up just yet, but they 
> seem nice. Wish they did 'em in a 40h. I don't mind truing a wheel, and 
> have a truing stand, but I'd rather have a pro build the wheel. 
>
> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:05:52 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:
>
>> I almost always build my own wheels, but you cannot go wrong with 
>> either Rich Lesnik (Rivendell / Hands On Wheels) or Peter White. I have 
>> had 
>> wheels from both, and they were flawless. Not local to you though, west 
>> coast and east coast respectively.
>>
>> I use Velocity or Velo Orange rims; Phil Wood, White Industries, 
>> Paul, Curtis Odom or classic Campagnolo hubs (Nuovo Record or Tipo); and 
>> Wheelsmith (out of production but still out there) or Sapim spokes. Most 
>> of 
>> my wheels are now 40 and 48 spoke, but I do have quite a few 36 and even 
>> a 
>> couple 32s.
>>
>> Laing
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:13:50 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>>
>>> I could use a recommendation for a good wheel builder. I've used 
>>> prowheelbuilder.com in the past and have no complaints. Not sure 
>>> how I landed on them. Just curious if there is another business that I 
>>> should be looking into? I'm located in Indianapolis as well, and would 
>>> prefer sending business to a local or at least midwest company if 
>>> possible. 
>>>  
>>>
>>> I'm looking for a set of 700c wheels for my Atlantis. I'm thinking 
>>> I'll do velocity cliffhangers with a SON up front and a nice rear hub. 
>>> The 
>>> rear is not yet totally decided as I like quiet hubs but there are not 
>>> many 
>>> options in rim brake, 36-40h hubs these days. I've got an onyx silent 
>>> hub 
>>> on my crust and love it but they only go up to 32h and I'd prefer 36 or 
>>> 40 
>>> as I'm a big dude. Which is why I'm thinking about a white industry 
>>> (loud 
>>> as they come) rear hub in 36 or 40h. 
>>>
>>> Anyway. I'd like to hear about your preferred wheel builders. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Wheel Builder

[ascpgh]

Peter White is also a very good resource for insight on hubs and rims to 
use for wheel builds. He always seems to have some things squirreled away 
that would be just the thing for your build. Have an honest assessment of 
your weight, riding, loads and other needs and he'll quote you up. He's 
built several wheel sets for me and I have nothing but compliments. several 
works for me too although not quite local. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Tuesday, August 15, 2023 at 7:09:15 AM UTC-4 jrst...@gmail.com wrote:

> Not close to you but I used Peter White on my last wheels and have been 
> very pleased. He is meticulous. 
>
> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 7:49:49 PM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>
>> Thanks. I've heard of Sugar but didn't think of that, I'll look into 
>> them. 
>>
>> On Monday, August 14, 2023 at 2:13:14 PM UTC-4 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I had several nice wheels over the years, including some Rich built. I 
>>> have to recommend Sugar wheel works. I had a set of SimWorks Stand-alone 
>>> rims (Velocity Cliffhanger) with CX ray spokes MI5 rear hub and Son front 
>>> and they were the nicest build I’ve ever seen by far. Great to work with 
>>> and the price was much better than some other options as well. 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 12:56:10 PM UTC-7 Josh C wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Laing. I do have a set of VO rims on a bike that I recently 
 acquired and like them so far. I've ridden on them throughout the summer 
 quite a bit. I like that they come in a polished finish but the highest 
 hole count is 36. I'm not sure how they will hold up just yet, but they 
 seem nice. Wish they did 'em in a 40h. I don't mind truing a wheel, and 
 have a truing stand, but I'd rather have a pro build the wheel. 

 On Sunday, August 13, 2023 at 2:05:52 PM UTC-4 lconley wrote:

> I almost always build my own wheels, but you cannot go wrong with 
> either Rich Lesnik (Rivendell / Hands On Wheels) or Peter White. I have 
> had 
> wheels from both, and they were flawless. Not local to you though, west 
> coast and east coast respectively.
>
> I use Velocity or Velo Orange rims; Phil Wood, White Industries, Paul, 
> Curtis Odom or classic Campagnolo hubs (Nuovo Record or Tipo); and 
> Wheelsmith (out of production but still out there) or Sapim spokes. Most 
> of 
> my wheels are now 40 and 48 spoke, but I do have quite a few 36 and even 
> a 
> couple 32s.
>
> Laing
> Delray Beach FL
>
> On Friday, August 11, 2023 at 9:13:50 AM UTC-4 Josh C wrote:
>
>> I could use a recommendation for a good wheel builder. I've used 
>> prowheelbuilder.com in the past and have no complaints. Not sure how 
>> I landed on them. Just curious if there is another business that I 
>> should 
>> be looking into? I'm located in Indianapolis as well, and would prefer 
>> sending business to a local or at least midwest company if possible.  
>>
>> I'm looking for a set of 700c wheels for my Atlantis. I'm thinking 
>> I'll do velocity cliffhangers with a SON up front and a nice rear hub. 
>> The 
>> rear is not yet totally decided as I like quiet hubs but there are not 
>> many 
>> options in rim brake, 36-40h hubs these days. I've got an onyx silent 
>> hub 
>> on my crust and love it but they only go up to 32h and I'd prefer 36 or 
>> 40 
>> as I'm a big dude. Which is why I'm thinking about a white industry 
>> (loud 
>> as they come) rear hub in 36 or 40h. 
>>
>> Anyway. I'd like to hear about your preferred wheel builders. 
>>
>

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[RBW] FS: Nitto R14, Nitto/Ocean Air Cycles Erlen racks

[scott minor]

Slimming down the rack collection.  

Nitto R14 used, mounted once and ridden for about a year on a bike I no 
longer have.  No visible marks or flaws.  $120

Nitto / Ocean Air Cycles Erlen rear bag support,  never mounted, as new! 
 Still has the tag on it from 2017 or whenever it was I bought it.  Comes 
with single bolt for Nitto seat post.  $115

Located in VA.

Thanks!  -Scott 

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