[RBW] Ceramic coating the paint

[John S]

In the recent 'Who's getting a Platypus tomorrow?' thread, one list member 
mentioned "ceramic coating the paint before building [the bike] up."

I'm very interested to hear more about ceramic coating from the group's 
collective experience and wisdom. My one major frustration with my 
Rivendells has been the fragility of the paint (my AHH is acquiring 
"beausage" at an alarming rate compared with my other bikes); I'd love if 
there were a way to reduce chipping and maintain the beauty of the original 
paint for longer.

Many thanks in advance for sharing your insights and experiences.

John


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Re: [RBW] Re: Boise to San Francisco bicycle route

[Joe Bunik]

That sounds fantastic, Jeffrey.

While attending University of Oregon, we explored the eastern OR /
US-26 zone once and it was spectacular. Alas, it has been far too long
since I've been out that way! Now THAT may be a goal worth setting...

Thanks for reminding me
Joe Bunik
Walnut Creek, CA


On 10/24/23, Jeffrey Arita  wrote:
> We rode the TransAmerica route in 2016, starting from Astoria, Oregon, EB
> to Yorktown, VA.  You could start from Boise heading WB, connecting to the
> TransAm route near Austin, Oregon (I saw some red heat maps along Highway
> 26, starting at Vale, Oregon on ridewithgps).  Then head WB on the TransAm
> to the coast.  There is a fantastic hostel in Mitchell, Oregon (Spoke'N
> Hostel).  They will even *drive *you up to see the painted hills!  The
> stretch from Sisters, Oregon to McKenzie Pass is otherworldly (no
> spoilers).  Definitely worth doing at least once.  Since you are headed WB,
>
> you will have one heckuva downhill from McKenzie Pass.  You will reach the
> west coast and then connect to the Pacific Coast route SB to SF.  The capes
>
> along the Oregon Coast are beautiful.  Redwoods in Northern California.
> Coastal views are beautiful.  Source is Adventure Cycling Association
> (ACA).  Their hard-copy maps leave much to be desired but they more often
> than not have valuable information (water, food, lodging/camping).
>
> The other option is find a way to ACA's 'Western Express' (WE) route.  We
> rode part of the WE in June (Carson City, NV to Cedar City, UT).  The
> primary problem is finding suitable water sources and carrying enough food
> for several days?  We aren't familiar with Highway 95 SB, so it could be
> dodgy with tractor trailers.  Also, dependng upon season, south of
> Winnemucca along Grass Valley Road could be difficult (water, heat, wind)
> before you actually connect to the WE (loneliest highway in the US).  The
> prevailing winds are from the west, so you would be likely heading into a
> headwind.  On one of our (EB) segments (Carson City -> Fallon) we had a
> fantastic tailwind + it was slightly downhill: it only took us 4H 2M to
> cover 61 miles fully loaded.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Jeff
> Claremont, CA
>
> On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 3:07:37 PM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> Hi, I understand that I can use Google or other sources to research a
>> preferable route. But I was wondering if anyone in the group has done all
>>
>> or part of this ride? I"d be curious about routes you chose, etc.
>>
>> Thank you for any ideas.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Considering trading my Ram for a Lightning Bolt

[maxcr]

Wow, thank you all for the overwhelming response and for sharing your 
experience. I love the photos, keep 'em coming!

Matt, thanks for the detail on the Tektros, I ordered a pair but also 
decided to pull the trigger on Alex' Mafacs (thanks Alex!) to try out the 
conversion.

Here is what I'll try: 
1) New 700C RH tires - Bon Jon Pass in standard casings
2) Swap out Paul Racers Medium for MAFAC RAID and install 650b Wheels with 
Loup Loup Pass tires or with Hetres (650x42) depending on what fits

I'm not sure when, but I will get to it... I have too many half baked 
projects at the moment, including my half-built Gallop on the stand right 
now, a brakeless Wilbury that will lose its wheels soon and a MMM bubbe 
with an Xtracycle that also needs a 650b conversion - I hope I can use the 
Paul Racers directly on the canti posts, I'm not sure if the plate where 
the bolt sits is removable.

Thanks again to everyone and I'll report back.

Max
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 1:33:13 PM UTC-4 ber...@bernardduhon.com 
wrote:

> Careful with offset brake pad’s 
> If tires are wide pad my rub on tire
>
>
>
>
> Get Outlook for iOS 
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> *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com  on 
> behalf of Toshi Takeuchi 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 25, 2023 12:02:58 PM
> *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
> *Subject:* Re: [RBW] Considering trading my Ram for a Lightning Bolt 
>  
> I concur with Evan.  I had a 54 cm 650b Ram with 54 mm Hetre/Baby Shoe 
> Pass tires and SKS fenders.  It was as good as my custom bike, except for 
> the toe overlap and dynamo wiring. I used thin profile V-brake style pads 
> to get a little extra reach with the Tektro R559.  That strategy may be 
> able to be combined with the offset brake-pad holders if needed.
>
> Toshi
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 9:16 AM Evan E.  wrote:
>
> Hi Alex, 
>
> Here for your reference is a photo of my Rambouillet with 650b wheels, 
> Tektro R559 brakes, and Pari-Moto 650b x 42 tires. I used offset brake-pad 
> holders on the rear caliper to get a tad more reach. If it turns out you 
> need a bit more reach on your bike, let me know. I still have those offset 
> brake-pad holders.
>
> Evan
> San Francisco
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Re: [RBW] Re: Boise to San Francisco bicycle route

[Keith Paugh]

I’ll add my appreciation to all the responses too.I’m planning (actively thinking about) a trip down the California coast for next fall, and your thoughts and insight are super helpful.I’ve dug out my Spring/Kirkendell edition of “Bicycling” & put a hold on Thorness’ “Cycling” at the library.k.On Oct 25, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Jim S.  wrote:thank you to all for the excellent, helpful responses so far.On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 1:24:17 PM UTC-6 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:That was my experience as well when I did the Pacific Coast tour in 2000. I live in San Diego so I basically flew up to BC and rode home. The book was a great help on that ride.Robert TilleySan Diego, CASent from my iPhoneOn Oct 25, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Steven Sweedler  wrote:I ride from Seattle to SF in ‘96. I camped at state parks and stayed in the hiker/biker sites and was overwhelmed (in a good way) with how many cyclists I met from around the world and it seemedeveryone had a copy of “the book” by Kirkendall and Spring. Steven SweedlerPlymouth, New HampshireOn Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 2:51 PM Shawn Granton  wrote:On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 6:41:42 AM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:The book reviewed herein, which is still available, was very helpful.Not sure when it was last updated, but as the song says,"The road goes on forever...:https://www.pacific-coast-highway-travel.com/Bicycling-the-Pacific-Coast-Book-Review.htmlThe book got updated in 2018 by a new author Bill Thorness. I highly recommend looking for the Thorness edition with the slightly revised title Cycling The Pacific Coast instead of the older Kirkendall/Spring editions. The old books were good for their time, but the new edition is magnitudes better in my opinion.I wrote about it here:https://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/2018/03/02/a-new-edition-of-the-cycling-the-pacific-coast-book-is-out/Best,Shawn in the PDX 



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Re: [RBW] Re: The Places Our Bikes Take Us

[ascpgh]

Wow. The places indeed!

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 3:12:54 PM UTC-4 Mojo wrote:

> Legolas through the Colorado National Monument[image: 18Apr14.jpg]
>
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 12:46:55 PM UTC-6 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
>> It (The GAP) is indeed a magical trail. That was going to be my next post 
>> in this thread - but on the Clem.:)
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Mike Godwin  wrote:
>>
>> Wow, that is just beautiful Andy. What a special place to live.
>>
>> Mike SLO CA 
>> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:42:41 AM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>>> Whoops, got away without signatuure...
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 ter a long couple days of work I saw the weather forecast and checked 
 my favorite far point Air B, found it available and collected enough 
 clothing to cover a 40° swing from frost to sunny 70°s and set out for a 
 ride down the GAP in near peak foliage. A very nice 85 mile ride in the 
 woods, rarely other people out and a few of the widely spaced services of 
 which I took advantage.   
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 On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 8:50:55 AM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:

> One of my (and probably many of you) main motivations for riding my 
> bikes is to get to a special place. This may be a place of natural 
> beauty, 
> a quiet place to get away from the hustle of daily life or a place that 
> has 
> special meaning to us. Post a picture of a special place your bike has 
> taken you, and why this place is special.
>
> This is my Appaloosa at the mouth of the Huron River in the Upper 
> Peninsula of Michigan. The Huron Islands are visible in Lake Superior. 
> This 
> place is remote feeling and beautiful, and I was there recently  many 
> years 
> after my first visit.
> Randy in WI[image: Appaloosa Huron River BeachBWWEB.jpg]
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[RBW] Re: Silver2 cranks!

[Sarah Carlson]

Thank you for that tip Bill! I was just feeling sad today because I was 
realizing I needed to build my bike more for hills than I did (Hello 
Moeser!). Leah just showed me your link so now I know that if I have to 
swap out parts there is a chance to build up lighter. 

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 3:08:08 PM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> I'm a fan!
>
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 4:30:58 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
>> I stumbled upon the News Blog on rivbike.com and was glancing at Roman's 
>> Legolas.  He and I ordered ours in the same size at the same time, so I 
>> always regard his as the twin sibling to mine. 
>>
>> Anyway, there's a sneak peek of a lighter, road-ish, Silver2 crankset. 
>>  Looks pretty cool!
>>
>> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/romans-57cm-legolas-865cm-pbh
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
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[RBW] Re: Silver2 cranks!

[Johnny Alien]

I'm a fan!

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 4:30:58 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> I stumbled upon the News Blog on rivbike.com and was glancing at Roman's 
> Legolas.  He and I ordered ours in the same size at the same time, so I 
> always regard his as the twin sibling to mine. 
>
> Anyway, there's a sneak peek of a lighter, road-ish, Silver2 crankset. 
>  Looks pretty cool!
>
> https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/romans-57cm-legolas-865cm-pbh
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
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[RBW] Silver2 cranks!

[Bill Lindsay]

I stumbled upon the News Blog on rivbike.com and was glancing at Roman's 
Legolas.  He and I ordered ours in the same size at the same time, so I 
always regard his as the twin sibling to mine. 

Anyway, there's a sneak peek of a lighter, road-ish, Silver2 crankset. 
 Looks pretty cool!

https://www.rivbike.com/blogs/news/romans-57cm-legolas-865cm-pbh

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] Re: Boise to San Francisco bicycle route

[Jim S.]

thank you to all for the excellent, helpful responses so far.

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 1:24:17 PM UTC-6 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> That was my experience as well when I did the Pacific Coast tour in 2000. 
> I live in San Diego so I basically flew up to BC and rode home. The book 
> was a great help on that ride.
>
> Robert Tilley
> San Diego, CA
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 25, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Steven Sweedler  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I ride from Seattle to SF in ‘96. I camped at state parks and stayed in 
> the hiker/biker sites and was overwhelmed (in a good way) with how many 
> cyclists I met from around the world and it seemedeveryone had a copy of 
> “the book” by Kirkendall and Spring. 
> Steven Sweedler
> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 2:51 PM Shawn Granton  
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 6:41:42 AM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>> The book reviewed herein, which is still available, was very helpful.
>> Not sure when it was last updated, but as the song says,
>> "The road goes on forever...:
>>
>> https://www.pacific-coast-highway-travel.com/Bicycling-the-Pacific-Coast-Book-Review.html
>>
>>
>> The book got updated in 2018 by a new author Bill Thorness. I highly 
>> recommend looking for the Thorness edition with the slightly revised title 
>> Cycling The Pacific Coast instead of the older Kirkendall/Spring editions. 
>> The old books were good for their time, but the new edition is magnitudes 
>> better in my opinion.
>>
>> I wrote about it here:
>>
>> https://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/2018/03/02/a-new-edition-of-the-cycling-the-pacific-coast-book-is-out/
>>
>> Best,
>> Shawn in the PDX
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Re: [RBW] Re: Boise to San Francisco bicycle route

[rltilley]

That was my experience as well when I did the Pacific Coast tour in 2000. I live in San Diego so I basically flew up to BC and rode home. The book was a great help on that ride.Robert TilleySan Diego, CASent from my iPhoneOn Oct 25, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Steven Sweedler  wrote:I ride from Seattle to SF in ‘96. I camped at state parks and stayed in the hiker/biker sites and was overwhelmed (in a good way) with how many cyclists I met from around the world and it seemedeveryone had a copy of “the book” by Kirkendall and Spring. Steven SweedlerPlymouth, New HampshireOn Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 2:51 PM Shawn Granton  wrote:On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 6:41:42 AM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:The book reviewed herein, which is still available, was very helpful.Not sure when it was last updated, but as the song says,"The road goes on forever...:https://www.pacific-coast-highway-travel.com/Bicycling-the-Pacific-Coast-Book-Review.htmlThe book got updated in 2018 by a new author Bill Thorness. I highly recommend looking for the Thorness edition with the slightly revised title Cycling The Pacific Coast instead of the older Kirkendall/Spring editions. The old books were good for their time, but the new edition is magnitudes better in my opinion.I wrote about it here:https://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/2018/03/02/a-new-edition-of-the-cycling-the-pacific-coast-book-is-out/Best,Shawn in the PDX 



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[RBW] Re: ISO: Berthoud Aspin / Aravis in brown or honey (natural)

['Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Brian, 
Yep! I am slowly replacing B17s with Aspin/Aravis saddles.

Three down, four to go,
Joe in GJT

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 9:16:52 AM UTC-6 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> I realize this is probably a long-shot, but if anyone here has one of 
> these that wasn't quite for them, and maybe looking to unload it, I am 
> interested. After using these saddles for several years now, I've found 
> that it's hard not having them on all my bikes.
>
> thanks!
>
> Brian
> Lex KY
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Re: [RBW] Re: Boise to San Francisco bicycle route

[Steven Sweedler]

I ride from Seattle to SF in ‘96. I camped at state parks and stayed in the
hiker/biker sites and was overwhelmed (in a good way) with how many
cyclists I met from around the world and it seemedeveryone had a copy of
“the book” by Kirkendall and Spring.
Steven Sweedler
Plymouth, New Hampshire


On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 2:51 PM Shawn Granton <
urbanadventurelea...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 6:41:42 AM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
> The book reviewed herein, which is still available, was very helpful.
> Not sure when it was last updated, but as the song says,
> "The road goes on forever...:
>
> https://www.pacific-coast-highway-travel.com/Bicycling-the-Pacific-Coast-Book-Review.html
>
>
> The book got updated in 2018 by a new author Bill Thorness. I highly
> recommend looking for the Thorness edition with the slightly revised title
> Cycling The Pacific Coast instead of the older Kirkendall/Spring editions.
> The old books were good for their time, but the new edition is magnitudes
> better in my opinion.
>
> I wrote about it here:
>
> https://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/2018/03/02/a-new-edition-of-the-cycling-the-pacific-coast-book-is-out/
>
> Best,
> Shawn in the PDX
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[RBW] Re: Boise to San Francisco bicycle route

[Shawn Granton]

On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 8:25:19 PM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

I rode down the Pacific coast about a decade ago, and now live in 
Sacramento. I'd definitely prefer to hit the coast in the north (even 
follow the Columbia to the coast?) 


I would not recommend riding east to west in the Columbia River Valley in 
summer, at least from east of Portland. The wind is reliably out of the 
west here, and it is fierce. On a previous tour out that way (east of Biggs 
Jct) I ended up riding westbound through here, and I was pedaling* hard* 
into the* downhills.*

Shawn in PDX 

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[RBW] Re: Boise to San Francisco bicycle route

[Shawn Granton]

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 6:41:42 AM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

The book reviewed herein, which is still available, was very helpful.
Not sure when it was last updated, but as the song says,
"The road goes on forever...:
https://www.pacific-coast-highway-travel.com/Bicycling-the-Pacific-Coast-Book-Review.html


The book got updated in 2018 by a new author Bill Thorness. I highly 
recommend looking for the Thorness edition with the slightly revised title 
Cycling The Pacific Coast instead of the older Kirkendall/Spring editions. 
The old books were good for their time, but the new edition is magnitudes 
better in my opinion.

I wrote about it here:
https://urbanadventureleague.wordpress.com/2018/03/02/a-new-edition-of-the-cycling-the-pacific-coast-book-is-out/

Best,
Shawn in the PDX
 

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Places Our Bikes Take Us

[Richard Rose]

It (The GAP) is indeed a magical trail. That was going to be my next post in this thread - but on the Clem.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 25, 2023, at 12:12 PM, Mike Godwin  wrote:Wow, that is just beautiful Andy. What a special place to live.Mike SLO CA On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:42:41 AM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:Whoops, got away without signatuure...Andy CheathamPittsburghOn Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:ter a long couple days of work I saw the weather forecast and checked my favorite far point Air B, found it available and collected enough clothing to cover a 40° swing from frost to sunny 70°s and set out for a ride down the GAP in near peak foliage. A very nice 85 mile ride in the woods, rarely other people out and a few of the widely spaced services of which I took advantage.   On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 8:50:55 AM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:One of my (and probably many of you) main motivations for riding my bikes is to get to a special place. This may be a place of natural beauty, a quiet place to get away from the hustle of daily life or a place that has special meaning to us. Post a picture of a special place your bike has taken you, and why this place is special.This is my Appaloosa at the mouth of the Huron River in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan. The Huron Islands are visible in Lake Superior. This place is remote feeling and beautiful, and I was there recently  many years after my first visit.Randy in WI



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Re: [RBW] Fall Riding in Alberta

[Mack Penner]

Thanks, Stephen! Glad to hear it :)
Mack 

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 8:56:01 PM UTC-6 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> These are so good Mack, missed the first one back in august. Makes me want 
> to go ride my bike.
>
> -stephen
>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 7:15:22 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
>> For those inclined to follow along, here's my "tale of fall 
>> ," which in southern 
>> alberta is now all but over, snow on the ground and still falling, 
>> something like -10 degrees Celsius today. If you're hardcore, you might 
>> also consider this semi-absurd overnighter 
>>  I took my poor 
>> brother on at the end of September. 
>> Mack
>>
>> On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 7:20:18 PM UTC-6 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>>> Great looking rides. Been a while since I explored that part of the 
>>> world. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 6:40:53 PM UTC-4 Andrew Letton wrote:
>>>
 Love it!  Especially the butterfly cameo!
 cheers from Oz,
 Andrew

 On Wednesday, August 23, 2023 at 01:36:32 AM GMT+10, Mack Penner <
 penne...@gmail.com> wrote: 


 Hi people,
 I have been on a small eric rohmer kick this year, and when I started 
 watching the tales of the four seasons it occurred to me that it would be 
 fun to document a week of riding in every season. I had the idea in the 
 summer, so first up is my tale of the summer. Nothin' fancy, I just 
 perched 
 my phone on my water bottle like a hundred times during my daily rides in 
 the week from 14-18 August. I was gonna put it to music, but then I 
 thought 
 that if the goal is to document seasonal riding vibes the sounds that the 
 season makes are important! Filmed in southern alberta on my atlantis, my 
 joe, my homer, and finally my quickbeam. 
 Vid's here . Hope you 
 find it fun!
 Enjoy the rest of August,
 Mack 

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Re: [RBW] Considering trading my Ram for a Lightning Bolt

[Bernard Duhon]

Careful with offset brake pad’s
If tires are wide pad my rub on tire




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Subject: Re: [RBW] Considering trading my Ram for a Lightning Bolt

I concur with Evan.  I had a 54 cm 650b Ram with 54 mm Hetre/Baby Shoe Pass 
tires and SKS fenders.  It was as good as my custom bike, except for the toe 
overlap and dynamo wiring. I used thin profile V-brake style pads to get a 
little extra reach with the Tektro R559.  That strategy may be able to be 
combined with the offset brake-pad holders if needed.

Toshi


On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 9:16 AM Evan E. 
mailto:evanellio...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Alex,

Here for your reference is a photo of my Rambouillet with 650b wheels, Tektro 
R559 brakes, and Pari-Moto 650b x 42 tires. I used offset brake-pad holders on 
the rear caliper to get a tad more reach. If it turns out you need a bit more 
reach on your bike, let me know. I still have those offset brake-pad holders.

Evan
San Francisco



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Re: [RBW] Rapid Rise Resurrection

[Ryan Ogilvie]

Thanks, Thomas, Michael!This largely confirms what I was thinking, namely, that these parts aren’t too esoteric and might run into range issues. My thumb shifters work with my 105 so curious what they do with the RR. Might try it out this weekend. Sent from my mobile device. On Oct 24, 2023, at 12:35 PM, Michael Connors  wrote:Here is the pulley bolt  https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/gear-spares/shimano-duraace-rd7700-pulley-bolt-y53m24000/?geoc=US



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Re: [RBW] Considering trading my Ram for a Lightning Bolt

[Toshi Takeuchi]

I concur with Evan.  I had a 54 cm 650b Ram with 54 mm Hetre/Baby Shoe Pass
tires and SKS fenders.  It was as good as my custom bike, except for the
toe overlap and dynamo wiring. I used thin profile V-brake style pads to
get a little extra reach with the Tektro R559.  That strategy may be able
to be combined with the offset brake-pad holders if needed.

Toshi


On Sun, Oct 22, 2023 at 9:16 AM Evan E.  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
>
> Here for your reference is a photo of my Rambouillet with 650b wheels,
> Tektro R559 brakes, and Pari-Moto 650b x 42 tires. I used offset brake-pad
> holders on the rear caliper to get a tad more reach. If it turns out you
> need a bit more reach on your bike, let me know. I still have those offset
> brake-pad holders.
>
> Evan
> San Francisco
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[RBW] Re: The Places Our Bikes Take Us

[Mike Godwin]

Wow, that is just beautiful Andy. What a special place to live.
Mike SLO CA 
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 7:42:41 AM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> Whoops, got away without signatuure...
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
>> ter a long couple days of work I saw the weather forecast and checked my 
>> favorite far point Air B, found it available and collected enough 
>> clothing to cover a 40° swing from frost to sunny 70°s and set out for a 
>> ride down the GAP in near peak foliage. A very nice 85 mile ride in the 
>> woods, rarely other people out and a few of the widely spaced services of 
>> which I took advantage.   
>> [image: 4BD9352D-87DE-4FC3-93F5-B4CF15992323_1_105_c.jpeg][image: 
>> 9707191F-4278-4271-A874-F9C04EA5D5E1_1_105_c.jpeg][image: 
>> F4A9FF43-CA9A-4451-BE6C-4581BF07622B_1_105_c.jpeg][image: 
>> B0501357-E0E5-4BE6-A470-2548C2E3C866_1_201_a.jpg]
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 8:50:55 AM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>>> One of my (and probably many of you) main motivations for riding my 
>>> bikes is to get to a special place. This may be a place of natural beauty, 
>>> a quiet place to get away from the hustle of daily life or a place that has 
>>> special meaning to us. Post a picture of a special place your bike has 
>>> taken you, and why this place is special.
>>>
>>> This is my Appaloosa at the mouth of the Huron River in the Upper 
>>> Peninsula of Michigan. The Huron Islands are visible in Lake Superior. This 
>>> place is remote feeling and beautiful, and I was there recently  many years 
>>> after my first visit.
>>> Randy in WI[image: Appaloosa Huron River BeachBWWEB.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, White Industries, Shimano, Suntour, Thomson

[Michael Ullmer]

Barcons and Steer Stopper are sold.

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 6:50:42 AM UTC-5 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> Apologies, it's 27.2
>
> On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:35 AM Richard Rose  wrote:
>
>> Michael, assuming the seatpost is not 26.8?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 25, 2023, at 12:18 AM, Michael Ullmer  wrote:
>>
>> I'm tearing down my 650b'd Trek 640 to send to a friend and have some 
>> extra parts to pass along plus a few more from the parts bin. Prices don't 
>> include shipping, will be shipped using Pirateship:
>>
>> 1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $85
>> --Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape.
>>
>> 2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $75
>> --Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. It 
>> has been treated with proofride.
>>
>> 3) White Industries ENO 18t Freewheel - $60
>>
>> 4) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $60
>>
>> 5) Steer Stopper Mechanism - $75
>> --This is intended for standard diameter top tube (25.4) and a quill 
>> stem. I bought new a couple months ago. More info here: 
>> https://steerstopper.com/
>>
>> 6) Suntour Barcons - $40
>> --Great shape, all hardware/nuts included.
>>
>> 7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchase
>>
>> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nG1Uja4xfHsT5e2D9
>>
>> For trades, I'm looking for a White Industries T11 32H Black Rear Hub.
>>
>> PM off-list, thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Considering trading my Ram for a Lightning Bolt

[Conway Bennett]

I have a Crust Canti-Lightning Bolt, and it's one of the best bikes I've 
ever ridden.  The most similar bike I have had to the Ram is two 
Quickbeams, first in a 60, then in a 58--I've sold them both, but I would 
be unlikely to part ways with the Lightning Bolt unless I upgraded somehow 
(e.g., Jeff Lyon).  I think the thing about the Lightning Bolt is that is 
so different than my 650b Hunqapillar that I split my time with--its like 
going from supportive hiking boots to a pair Vans.  They are both 
comfortable, just very different from one another.  Because of my 
experience with the Lightning Bolt, I have been getting more into go fast 
solo rides, and I will probably try to buy the next 59 Canti-Romulus that 
comes up for sale.
On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:04:18 AM UTC-5 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> I have been daydreaming about going the opposite direction from the OP. I 
> currently have a v1 lightning bolt that i use for my rambl-y weekend rides 
> and a more recent canti romanceur i use for commuting. I also have a recent 
> sam i use for commuting and errands. i'm thinking about selling the 
> romanceur and, in turn, keeping an eye out for a ram. but i would probably 
> keep it 700c. who knows. 
>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:45:48 PM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
>> 
>>
>> I recently picked up a 59 Romulus on the list.  I always thought of the 
>> Romulus as the "cheaper Panasonic version of the Rambouillet".  I bought 
>> it, stripped it to the bones, and built it back up in my own idiosyncratic 
>> way.  I built it with 700x38 Gravel King Slicks.  For oddball reasons I 
>> won't get into, I'm not riding it on any "rides" of any distance, but I did 
>> ride it around the block and it felt weird, and unlike any Rivendell I had 
>> ridden before.  It radically understeered.  It was a bad weird, and I 
>> normally am not sensitive to this kind of thing.  I swapped the tires out 
>> for 700x32 Rene Herse Stampede Pass, and shazam, it felt like a normal 
>> bike, like a Rivendell.  
>>
>> This was two around the block test rides.  I have not reverted to the 38s 
>> to see if the bad-weird repeated.  I have not tried 38mm knobbies to see if 
>> it has to do with pneumatic trail and a huge slick contact patch.  Once my 
>> weirdo reasons for not riding it are lifted, then I'll get out on it more 
>> and form a relationship.  I love my build and will give it a VERY thorough 
>> shake down before forming any real lasting opinions.
>>
>> 
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 7:38:09 AM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>>> I'll chime in here that my 650b'd Ram is one of my favorite riding bikes 
>>> in the stable. I always want to max out tire width as much as possible and 
>>> was disappointed that 700x35 tires with fenders didn't fit. I had a 650b 
>>> wheelset and tried 650bx42 and that fit great with room to spare. I've been 
>>> riding that configuration for a few months now.
>>>
>>> It looked like room enough to go one tire size higher (sans fenders). 
>>> Thanks to a fellow lister I had some 650bx48 Rene Herse Switchback Hill 
>>> Tires waiting for me at home yesterday after a long weekend away. This 
>>> morning I swapped em out and they seem to fit just fine. Super excited to 
>>> try this out later this week! 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 5:49:36 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>>
 Alex, your modified Ram is outstanding.  Probably the most nicest, 
 modified Rivendell I've ever seen.

 This whole thread inspired me to wrap up a few things on my own 650b 
 conversion project, an RB-1, and to ride my Ram one last time this 
 weekend.  (It's supposed to start snowing this weekend, so season's over 
 I'm affraid).

 Interesting thing about the Ram, that strikes me every time, is how 
 comfortable or "plush" it feels, despite only having 33.33 tires.  I don't 
 understand why.  When it was new, it made "normal" road bikes, with 23 to 
 28mm tires look positively silly.  As the rest of the industry has caught 
 up and embraced fatter tires, the Ram now "looks' outdated next to a lot 
 of 
 other, newer bikes I saw.  My own tendency is almost always to choose 
 something with fatter tires, too.  But as I said, I'm struck every time by 
 how well it rides and how relevant it still is.  I don’t think I'll ever 
 sell it, even if I have to be "prompted" to ride it once in a while.  I 
 think if I ever felt differently, I'd now consider Alex's example.

 On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:38:16 AM UTC-6 Applegate wrote:

> Hey Max,
>
> I sort of love this dilemma. As much as my platonic ideal of a bike 
> has been shaped by Jan Heine, featuring skinny, thin-wall tubing and a 
> flat 
> top tube, I will definitely back a 650b Ram. I would wholeheartedly 
> recommend MAFAC Raids (or go all-in with the Compass/Rene Herse updates). 

[RBW] ISO: Berthoud Aspin / Aravis in brown or honey (natural)

[Brian Turner]

I realize this is probably a long-shot, but if anyone here has one of these 
that wasn't quite for them, and maybe looking to unload it, I am 
interested. After using these saddles for several years now, I've found 
that it's hard not having them on all my bikes.

thanks!

Brian
Lex KY

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Re: [RBW] Considering trading my Ram for a Lightning Bolt

[Drew Henson]

I have been daydreaming about going the opposite direction from the OP. I 
currently have a v1 lightning bolt that i use for my rambl-y weekend rides 
and a more recent canti romanceur i use for commuting. I also have a recent 
sam i use for commuting and errands. i'm thinking about selling the 
romanceur and, in turn, keeping an eye out for a ram. but i would probably 
keep it 700c. who knows. 

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 3:45:48 PM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> 
>
> I recently picked up a 59 Romulus on the list.  I always thought of the 
> Romulus as the "cheaper Panasonic version of the Rambouillet".  I bought 
> it, stripped it to the bones, and built it back up in my own idiosyncratic 
> way.  I built it with 700x38 Gravel King Slicks.  For oddball reasons I 
> won't get into, I'm not riding it on any "rides" of any distance, but I did 
> ride it around the block and it felt weird, and unlike any Rivendell I had 
> ridden before.  It radically understeered.  It was a bad weird, and I 
> normally am not sensitive to this kind of thing.  I swapped the tires out 
> for 700x32 Rene Herse Stampede Pass, and shazam, it felt like a normal 
> bike, like a Rivendell.  
>
> This was two around the block test rides.  I have not reverted to the 38s 
> to see if the bad-weird repeated.  I have not tried 38mm knobbies to see if 
> it has to do with pneumatic trail and a huge slick contact patch.  Once my 
> weirdo reasons for not riding it are lifted, then I'll get out on it more 
> and form a relationship.  I love my build and will give it a VERY thorough 
> shake down before forming any real lasting opinions.
>
> 
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 7:38:09 AM UTC-7 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
>> I'll chime in here that my 650b'd Ram is one of my favorite riding bikes 
>> in the stable. I always want to max out tire width as much as possible and 
>> was disappointed that 700x35 tires with fenders didn't fit. I had a 650b 
>> wheelset and tried 650bx42 and that fit great with room to spare. I've been 
>> riding that configuration for a few months now.
>>
>> It looked like room enough to go one tire size higher (sans fenders). 
>> Thanks to a fellow lister I had some 650bx48 Rene Herse Switchback Hill 
>> Tires waiting for me at home yesterday after a long weekend away. This 
>> morning I swapped em out and they seem to fit just fine. Super excited to 
>> try this out later this week! 
>>
>>
>> On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 5:49:36 AM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:
>>
>>> Alex, your modified Ram is outstanding.  Probably the most nicest, 
>>> modified Rivendell I've ever seen.
>>>
>>> This whole thread inspired me to wrap up a few things on my own 650b 
>>> conversion project, an RB-1, and to ride my Ram one last time this 
>>> weekend.  (It's supposed to start snowing this weekend, so season's over 
>>> I'm affraid).
>>>
>>> Interesting thing about the Ram, that strikes me every time, is how 
>>> comfortable or "plush" it feels, despite only having 33.33 tires.  I don't 
>>> understand why.  When it was new, it made "normal" road bikes, with 23 to 
>>> 28mm tires look positively silly.  As the rest of the industry has caught 
>>> up and embraced fatter tires, the Ram now "looks' outdated next to a lot of 
>>> other, newer bikes I saw.  My own tendency is almost always to choose 
>>> something with fatter tires, too.  But as I said, I'm struck every time by 
>>> how well it rides and how relevant it still is.  I don’t think I'll ever 
>>> sell it, even if I have to be "prompted" to ride it once in a while.  I 
>>> think if I ever felt differently, I'd now consider Alex's example.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 11:38:16 AM UTC-6 Applegate wrote:
>>>
 Hey Max,

 I sort of love this dilemma. As much as my platonic ideal of a bike has 
 been shaped by Jan Heine, featuring skinny, thin-wall tubing and a flat 
 top 
 tube, I will definitely back a 650b Ram. I would wholeheartedly recommend 
 MAFAC Raids (or go all-in with the Compass/Rene Herse updates). I have a 
 couple pairs of Raids I'm reconditioning with brass bushings/washers and 
 could probably ship one your way for a reasonable fare. Not the point of 
 me 
 posting though.

 I had a V1 XL Canti Bolt for 14 months, using it for randonneuring as 
 well as some gravel rides and mixed terrains touring (with smallish front 
 panniers on a lowrider rack). It was nice to look at and often felt great, 
 but it never really fit me (too long of top tube, seemingly resolved in 
 current geometry). I think I put just over 4k miles on it in that 
 timespan, 
 which is probably the fastest mileage rate of any of my bikes to date.

 However, I also got a 62 (so 60 C–C, as it would happen) Rambouillet 
 about the same time, and the connection felt deeper, sooner. It was 
 stripped to the bare steel and was sporting an eccentric genius 650b 
 

[RBW] Re: The Places Our Bikes Take Us

[ascpgh]

Whoops, got away without signatuure...

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 10:41:52 AM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> ter a long couple days of work I saw the weather forecast and checked my 
> favorite far point Air B, found it available and collected enough 
> clothing to cover a 40° swing from frost to sunny 70°s and set out for a 
> ride down the GAP in near peak foliage. A very nice 85 mile ride in the 
> woods, rarely other people out and a few of the widely spaced services of 
> which I took advantage.   
> [image: 4BD9352D-87DE-4FC3-93F5-B4CF15992323_1_105_c.jpeg][image: 
> 9707191F-4278-4271-A874-F9C04EA5D5E1_1_105_c.jpeg][image: 
> F4A9FF43-CA9A-4451-BE6C-4581BF07622B_1_105_c.jpeg][image: 
> B0501357-E0E5-4BE6-A470-2548C2E3C866_1_201_a.jpg]
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 25, 2023 at 8:50:55 AM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>
>> One of my (and probably many of you) main motivations for riding my bikes 
>> is to get to a special place. This may be a place of natural beauty, a 
>> quiet place to get away from the hustle of daily life or a place that has 
>> special meaning to us. Post a picture of a special place your bike has 
>> taken you, and why this place is special.
>>
>> This is my Appaloosa at the mouth of the Huron River in the Upper 
>> Peninsula of Michigan. The Huron Islands are visible in Lake Superior. This 
>> place is remote feeling and beautiful, and I was there recently  many years 
>> after my first visit.
>> Randy in WI[image: Appaloosa Huron River BeachBWWEB.jpg]
>>
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[RBW] Re: Nutmeg Nor'Easter 2023

[Davey Two Shoes]

Man that was a wet one. Routes were excellent!

On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 12:08:31 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:

> It was a fun event and I didn't even ride my bicycle! I arrived early 
> Friday and left before lunch Saturday. Rained like hell Friday afternoon 
> and all night Friday into Saturday. Huge turnout all the same. I still had 
> lots of fun visiting with people and making new friends. Justin, it was 
> great to meet you. I wish I'd stuck around to ride with you all. 
>
> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 10:39:07 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>
>> Friday and Saturday morning's weather notwithstanding, it was an awesome 
>> weekend once again! Some pics and videos below on my IG highlight reel. Was 
>> great meeting Eric Marth in person as well as hanging and riding with 
>> fellow Brooklynite Stephen. The camp this year was the best yet - an old 
>> Boy Scout camp with lots of interesting terrain to explore. The bunk'd out 
>> lean-to's were lifesavers for staying relatively dry Friday night. 
>> Hopefully they'll keep doing it at Deer Lake going forward.  
>>
>> https://www.instagram.com/stories/highlights/18022077148765755/
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 24, 2023 at 10:30:54 AM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>
>>> How was the ride?  I missed it this year due to a work trip.  Last time 
>>> my crew made it up was 2021 (a fabulous year) and I'm itching to get back.
>>>
>>> On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 7:45:18 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
>>>

 Yes it looks terrible! Hope still fun tho  
 On Thursday, October 19, 2023 at 5:20:51 PM UTC-4 RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:

> The forecast is getting worse the closer we get! 
>
> [image: Screenshot 2023-10-16 at 4.33.11 PM.png]
>
> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 11:25:02 PM UTC-4 J wrote:
>
>> I'll be there again, this time on a big ol pistachio Romanceur 
>>
>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:58:35 PM UTC-4 lyon...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm going to add a mermaid gus to the mix--see you out there!
>>>
>>> Adam in Portland
>>>
>>> On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 9:26:52 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy wrote:
>>>

 Most excellent! Looking forward to it and hoping the forecast 
 improves. 
 On Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 1:52:35 AM UTC-4 eric...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Justin and Stephen — I'll be on my Appaloosa so that'll be three 
> mermaid frames... at least! 
>
> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:56:46 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> Yep that was me!
>>
>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:23:52 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Stephen, i met you outside Luigi’s a couple weeks ago?? 
>>> On Saturday, October 14, 2023 at 9:09:28 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>>>
 I’ll be there on the appa!

 On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 7:50:36 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. 
 -Brooklyn NY wrote:

> Some day…
> Have fun!
> -Kai
>
> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 4:07:20 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Patch! see ya there ;-)
>>
>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 3:14:56 PM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:
>>
>>> MEEE - but you knew that :)
>>>
>>> Patch in Brooklyn
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 13, 2023 at 10:16:37 AM UTC-4 Justin 
>>> Kennedy wrote:
>>>
 Curious if anyone else from the RBW Owners Bunch will be 
 there this year. If so, would love to say hello! I'll be on my 
 mermaid 
 Platy.

 Cheers-

>>>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, White Industries, Shimano, Suntour, Thomson

[Mike Ullmer]

Apologies, it's 27.2

On Wed, Oct 25, 2023 at 6:35 AM Richard Rose  wrote:

> Michael, assuming the seatpost is not 26.8?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 25, 2023, at 12:18 AM, Michael Ullmer  wrote:
>
> I'm tearing down my 650b'd Trek 640 to send to a friend and have some
> extra parts to pass along plus a few more from the parts bin. Prices don't
> include shipping, will be shipped using Pirateship:
>
> 1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $85
> --Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape.
>
> 2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $75
> --Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. It
> has been treated with proofride.
>
> 3) White Industries ENO 18t Freewheel - $60
>
> 4) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $60
>
> 5) Steer Stopper Mechanism - $75
> --This is intended for standard diameter top tube (25.4) and a quill stem.
> I bought new a couple months ago. More info here:
> https://steerstopper.com/
>
> 6) Suntour Barcons - $40
> --Great shape, all hardware/nuts included.
>
> 7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchase
>
> Pics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nG1Uja4xfHsT5e2D9
>
> For trades, I'm looking for a White Industries T11 32H Black Rear Hub.
>
> PM off-list, thanks!
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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto, White Industries, Shimano, Suntour, Thomson

[Richard Rose]

Michael, assuming the seatpost is not 26.8?Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 25, 2023, at 12:18 AM, Michael Ullmer  wrote:I'm tearing down my 650b'd Trek 640 to send to a friend and have some extra parts to pass along plus a few more from the parts bin. Prices don't include shipping, will be shipped using Pirateship:1) Nitto NJ SP72 Jaguar Seatpost - $85--Some scuffs here and there, but generally pretty great shape.2) Brooks Flyer Saddle - $75--Some marks around the edges and some light cracking in the leather. It has been treated with proofride.3) White Industries ENO 18t Freewheel - $604) Thomson X4 90mm 31.8 0 Deg - $605) Steer Stopper Mechanism - $75--This is intended for standard diameter top tube (25.4) and a quill stem. I bought new a couple months ago. More info here: https://steerstopper.com/6) Suntour Barcons - $40--Great shape, all hardware/nuts included.7) Shimano Exage Brake Levers - free with any purchasePics here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nG1Uja4xfHsT5e2D9For trades, I'm looking for a White Industries T11 32H Black Rear Hub.PM off-list, thanks!



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