Re: [RBW] Re: New Bike Day: My Little Platy

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

This is easily the winner for single greatest injection of personalized 
Easter Eggs in one project that I've ever seen... that is for sure (!) 
It simply has to be a "best of show" contender somewhere. 
Congratulations LP!

On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 10:06:30 AM UTC-4 Tom Goodmann wrote:

> So glad you posted this here, as the Insta vid is so fun. Congratulations!
>
> On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 9:56:58 AM UTC-4 SallyG wrote:
>
>> What a wonder! Absolutely terrific...and I loved hearing the backstories!
>>
>> On Thu, May 23, 2024 at 6:08 AM ian m  wrote:
>>
>>> Love the iridescent bits, the anodizer really nailed it
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 23, 2024 at 8:51:27 AM UTC-4 sarahlik...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 When "too much" is "just right." This bike will make you (and anyone 
 who sees it) smile. Who could not smile at the sight on a My Little Platy 
 coming down the road! I hope you have many joyous miles riding, and that 
 some of them are in California so we can see it in person!

 On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 8:43:11 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:

> Finally. New. Bike. Day.
>
> This bike was a long time coming. I bought the frame in November 
> (November!) and have waited this long for the plethora of specialty parts 
> to arrive.
>
> Purple is a fun color; it never takes itself too seriously. It goes 
> with most other colors, which is what led me to choose…all the colors. 
>
> The theme for this Platypus is: 80s My Little Pony. I call the bike My 
> Little Platy. 
>
> The bike is a 50cm Rivendell Platypus with 650b wheels; it can be 
> taken on Amtrak and bus racks, which is something its 55cm siblings 
> cannot 
> do. I put fat tires on it so it can handle gravel. My Gravel & Travel 
> Platy.
>
> I adored My Little Pony in my girlhood, and my favorite ponies had 
> rainbow hair. Why settle for just pink or blue when some ponies had ALL 
> the 
> colors? I started out this build incorporating a color here or there. (I 
> had my Paul brakes already cerakoted in blues.) But while looking for 
> grips, I found Ergon oil slick clamps and had my revelation: I wanted oil 
> slick everywhere I could get it. 
>
> Because oil slick has ALL the colors.
>
> All the makers of these parts worked with me to make this bike happen. 
> They sent their beautiful products to me and let me alter them in wild, 
> saturated, living color. I don’t know if any of them understood why I was 
> going all out like this. All of them were men, save one - the anodizer. 
> You 
> can see her work in the levers, chain rings, cranks, and bottom bracket. 
> She understood the assignment. 
>
> I live with 3 men and none of them give the bike their stamp of 
> approval. The Lone Wolf will howl, alright. I remain steadfast in my 
> adoration of this bike because it does something for me. Takes me back to 
> my simple, happy 80s and 90s childhood. If when you were a little girl 
> (most of your were not), your friend had a dress-up closet and you could 
> choose from her lavish collection of finery to wear at playtime, and you 
> just came out WEARING ALL OF IT, well, that is this Platypus.
>
> Thank you to everyone at Analog Cycles, Paul Components, Ignite 
> Components, Ashley Anodized It, Velocity USA and Pedal Bicycles for 
> making 
> this silly concept a real, tangible bicycle. And of course, thank you to 
> Rivendell Bicycle Works, who makes the best bikes in the world.
>
> Please find my video link below.
> Leah
> https://www.instagram.com/reel/C7S3y0AufkX/?igsh=ZTk5amhhaTR2anQ=
>
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[RBW] Re: Drops vs albatross. Easy to swap or do I need two bikes?

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

First off: no one here is going to try and talk you out of two bikes ... :)

However, a single bike with an alternate set of bars isn't a bad idea at 
all.
As suggested in the thread: down tube shifters are the way to go for ease 
of swapping without having to touch with your shifting set up. 
Center pull brakes also make for an easy quick change. 
My method is to have two complete bar & stem cockpits (an upright and a 
drop bar set up) - each with front and rear brake levers, cables, housings, 
ferrules and cable hangers intact. 
Once you get your fit and braking dialed in swapping really becomes a 
fairly no-nonsense 20 to 25 minute exercise thanks to a few turns of your 
barrel adjusters here and there.




On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 9:07:47 AM UTC-4 Ginz wrote:

> I have a bike that swaps between Nitto Bullmoose and Albatross.  Friction 
> shifting and mtb-style brake levers makes the swap very easy.  
>
> Swapping between flat bar brake levers and drop levers is going to be more 
> fiddly because you will have to use cable splitters (with mtb levers you 
> can just slide the cable head out of the lever via the barrel adjuster's 
> slot provided your cable routing and housing length is similar for both 
> bars) and you will probably have to adjust the brake cable tension each 
> time you swap and make sure your brake pad clearence is good.
>
> From personal experience, I wouldn't want to swap bars more than once in a 
> while unless I really had a space limitation and extra time to plan my 
> rides.  But, of course it can be done.
>
> Good Luck!
> Ginz
>
> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 8:24:41 AM UTC-4 Johnny Alien wrote:
>
>> Let me suggest that you get yourself some albastache bars. I think you 
>> would feel comfortable in all of your scenarios with those handlebars. They 
>> are the secret weapon in Rivendell's offerings.
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 8:14:04 AM UTC-4 erik.s...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Answering on the practical side (easily swapping handlebars) rather than 
>>> the “should I own two bikes” side of things, Russ from Path Less Pedaled 
>>> did a video a while back on optimizing 1 bike for easy cockpit swaps. 
>>> Basically using a little Jagwire cable splitting doodad so the cables and 
>>> housing can mostly stay in place when swapping bars. It makes more sense if 
>>> your bike has full-length housing, but there may still be some nuggets in 
>>> there that are helpful.
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/qj0qOyw_Es8?si=wKDJKxwHhdtKdBg0
>>>
>>> Could be a good in-between option while you’re building up your second 
>>> bike ;)
>>>
>>> Erik, Philly
>>> On Wednesday, May 1, 2024 at 2:23:08 AM UTC-4 Michael wrote:
>>>
 Looking for a single bike for casual rides on bike 
 paths/paved/gravel/dirt roads with the occasional 100 mile ride thrown in. 
 Will suggest the Sam Hillborne, which I'm leaning towards. I assumed I 
 would build it with drops for the long rides but I recently fell in love 
 with albatross bars for upright lazy bike path rides. 
 Is there a way to quickly/easily swap handlebars or are two bikes 
 inevitable? 
 Would a Sam with drops and an appaloosa or atlantis w/ albatross be a 
 good combo or is that too much overlap? 



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[RBW] Re: 5 Boro Bike Tour (was NYC Riv Ride?)

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Apparently, I replied to Pam as "author only" by accident, which, means my 
high praise and admiration for her *absolutely bonkers HERO feat* of flying 
to LGA and unboxing on the spot to tour NYC by bike didn't make it to the 
larger group here - *but it should have* (!) 

Amazing, Pam... just amazing!

jsk
On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 10:18:47 PM UTC-4 Pam Bikes wrote:

>
> NYC is great to ride.  I just got back from being there 9 days.  Here are 
> my routes .  I flew into LGA 
> and unboxed my bike in baggage claim and rode from there.  Exit Terminal B 
> and turn L down the sidewalk towards the parking deck and then cross the 
> street to 96th.  I rode through Queens across the Queensborogh Bridge to 
> Manhattan.  I didn't go to the Bronx or Staten Island but I rode the other 
> 3 boroughs solo.  Have a blast!   Photo is at Central Park.  [image: 
> centralpark1.jpg]
> On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 10:48:54 AM UTC-4 Brady Smith wrote:
>
>> I used to live in Fort Lee, and it was the prospect of commuting across 
>> the GWB down to Chelsea and back each day that got me into cycling. 
>>
>> We moved to Utah mid-pandemic and went back to NYC for the first time 
>> last week. I rented a road bike from Bicycle Habitat and did the classic 
>> Bear Mountain route. It was all great, but I'd forgotten how much I loved 
>> exploring Manhattan on a bike. I never did the Five Boro tour, but it looks 
>> like a blast. 
>>
>> Have fun!
>>
>> Brady in SLC
>>
>> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 11:51:14 AM UTC-6 Michael Morrissey wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> My wife and I signed up for the tour and will be there! We even payed an 
>>> extra cost to be in the first wave of riders. I'll be riding my mustard 
>>> colored Appaloosa (I might even rock my tweed saddlebag) and my wife will 
>>> be on her extra-small orange Salsa Vaya. I'll be on the lookout for other 
>>> Rivendell riders other than my main man, Eben Weiss: 
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_9Pj_AD3A
>>>
>>> Say hi if you see us! 
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 10:05:33 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>>>
 The 5 Boro Bike Tour in NYC has been on my bucket list for years, and I 
 decided this year is the year. First Sunday of May (5/5 this year).
 https://www.bike.nyc/events/td-five-boro-bike-tour/
 Registration opened this week, and I signed up.
 I've got my lodging and flight booked as well.

 This will be my first trip to NYC since I was a kid, 50 years ago. I 
 won't be bringing my Riv (Bringing the Ritchey Breakaway), but I'll be 
 there for a week, staying in midtown not far from ride start. 
 I'd love to meet up with others while I'm there, get recommendations on 
 where to ride, cheap food, coffee, bike shops, etc.

 Anyone else here doing the ride?

 Mike M

>>>

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[RBW] Re: NYC Riv Ride?

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I should be around the weekend of 4/6 - keep me posted!


On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 8:29:57 AM UTC-5 Caroline Golum wrote:

> Bumping this! Back from the shoot, ready to ramble. 
>
> My birthday is on a Thurs this year (3/21) but if anyone is interested in 
> a ride the following weekend, weather permitting, let's organize!
>
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[RBW] Re: Paramount @ age 40

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gorgeous (!)


On Saturday, December 30, 2023 at 2:22:58 PM UTC-5 John Dewey wrote:

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[RBW] Re: Anna Purple

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That Ana purple looks like a direct nod back to the Bridgestone XO's, 
which, makes it feel just right, to me, anyway...

On Friday, November 17, 2023 at 9:34:41 AM UTC-5 Tim Bantham wrote:

> Curious what folks think of the Riv frames in purple. I personally am on 
> the fence. I keep looking at it and can't decide if I would like it or not. 
> I would be perfectly fine with any of the other Riv colors but the purple 
> is a bit polarizing to me. Of course I am betting it looks great in person. 
> Thoughts? 
>

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[RBW] Re: Best mitten design for very cold weather

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I"m a Lobster Mitt man, myself. I commute through the winters in NYC and 
Pearl Izumi has been the go-to. I think I'm on my third pair in around 25 
years or so. They clean up well in the washer, hang dry - never the dryer 
(ask me how I know). The upper cuff isn't too annoying with various 
jackets, etc. I switch over to them when the temps drop to the low 30's. 
They aren't perfect below say, 10 degrees - but they're still pretty good - 
and for sure, I try to keep my trips short when it's below 10 degrees 
anyway.

They've evolved over the years - I'm about to try out a new pair this 
winter. I purchased them from Tri-Sports last Spring when they were on sale 
at $42.99. It looks like they're back up to full retail price again but 
maybe search around for a better price if you're interested.

https://www.trisports.com/product/pearl-izumi-amfib-lobster-gel-glov
On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 4:15:59 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> The fall style thread raises a question about keeping your hands warm in 
> very cold temperatures (for me, very cold means in the teens F). My fingers 
> are very sensitive to the cold. I've bought 2 or 3 pairs of PI Lobster 
> gloves but I've been disappointed in the fit and the warmth. 
>
> I've used Outdoor Research heavy nylon mitten sheaths with thick boiled 
> wool mittens underneath, and those were very warm indeed, but very awkward 
> to ride in, even on a fixed gear where you have to handle only the brake 
> levers.
>
> Varusteleka currently has a number of mil surplus mittens with separate 
> thumb, separate thumb and trigger finger, and separate thumb and first 2 
> fingers. The whole point of mittens is to bundle the fingers together in 
> one compartment for mutual warmth, so each added finger compartment 
> sacrifices warmth.
>
> Does anyone have thoughts on a glove or a mitten or a system that gives 
> the best mix of warmth and dexterity? And perhaps some particular gloves or 
> mittens that fit the bill?
>
> Right now, I've got hugely oversized 5-finger gloves under which I can 
> wear wool knit gloves, under which in turn I can wear silk liners, but this 
> sort of layer system is cumbersome to put on and take off.
>
> Thanks.
>
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[RBW] Re: A formal request to one of you...

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That has to be the single most disorienting picture of a deck I've ever 
seen - I'd be sure to break a bone somewhere trying to step on it (!)

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 10:15:43 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The sprung version is still pretty common.  The B68 had been totally out 
> of production...or so I thought.  Rivendell has an OEM deal with Brooks 
> that lets them sell a saddle on a complete bike purchase.  I looked for a 
> loophole with Riv since I'm buying a frameset, and Will very nicely said 
> "Nope, sorry. Only on a new complete bike"  I've learned that there may be 
> other bike companies that have or have had that same deal with Brooks.  So 
> it was not out of production.  It was just a little trickier to procure.  
>
> If you think you can convert that B68 in a box into $100, then yes, it's 
> turned to gold.  Offer it and somebody will buy it.  
> If you wonder if you can convert that B68 in a box into $250, then no, it 
> has not turned to gold.  Nobody is going to buy it at "collector" pricing.  
> IMO.  
>
> BL in EC
>
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 7:05:37 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hmm...did the B68 sitting in a box in my garage (along with its sprung 
>> version cousin) just turn into gold? 
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:20:26 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Leah
>>>
>>> Much more importantly, I'm in Michigan this week and it's my first time 
>>> to see an ice storm.  It's bizarre!  I'm in the snow often, and I'm not 
>>> unfamiliar to low temperatures, but I've never experienced an ice storm.  
>>> For other sheltered softies like me, and ice storm (to me) is when it 
>>> rains, but it's cold enough on the ground that everything gets wet, nothing 
>>> dries, and the water freezes faster than it can run off.  Everything that 
>>> is not salted and not warm is freaking COATED with ice!  It's weird!  Every 
>>> tree has every branch encased in a thick later of ice.  My rental car is 
>>> coated with a thick bumpy but transparent sheet of ice.  I have to yank 
>>> hard to get the door open and break the sheet.  I feel like I'm on a 
>>> wilderness adventure, here in western Wayne County.  
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> Wayne County Michigan
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 5:31:02 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Woah, woah, wait. I went to bed with no power in an ice storm and woke 
 up to this thread. Bill, did you get your B 68 - and maybe more than one? 
 And JOE! What bike did you get? Say it’s a Platypus!

 On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 4:11:53 AM UTC-5 Garth wrote:

> I think this is perfectly legit request on Bill's part. People sell 
> off parts from complete bikes for all sorts of reasons all the time. So I 
> see this basically as WTB/ISO post. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: moisture in dynamo light - am i screwed?

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

One other thing: I mounted mine to hang as well but did have it rotated 
properly (wires hanging downward - lensing in the correct position).
On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 6:51:04 AM UTC-4 jeffrey kane wrote:

> I had the same thing happen to that exact model after a couple of years of 
> use - mind you I rode nearly 10 hours straight in the rain the day before I 
> noticed it (5 Borough bike tour May 2019). My solution in the end was the 
> trash bin, sorry to say. I've been running an Edelux ll ever since with no 
> issues. The bonus is a better spread of light though, so there's that.
>
> On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:59:46 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
> (Brooklyn, NY) wrote:
>
>> I noticed my B IQ-X wasn't working this morning and then discovered 
>> there's moisture inside the body of the light itself (see pic below). 
>> Anyone have experience with this? Will it dry out itself or should I try to 
>> take the light apart and dry it out? Super high humidity today so I'm 
>> wondering if that's come into play. I can see that it's flickering when the 
>> wheel rotates so it isn't a connection issue. It just doesn't fully 
>> illuminate beyond the flicker. 
>>
>> [image: IMG-4818.jpg]
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: moisture in dynamo light - am i screwed?

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I had the same thing happen to that exact model after a couple of years of 
use - mind you I rode nearly 10 hours straight in the rain the day before I 
noticed it (5 Borough bike tour May 2019). My solution in the end was the 
trash bin, sorry to say. I've been running an Edelux ll ever since with no 
issues. The bonus is a better spread of light though, so there's that.

On Monday, September 12, 2022 at 11:59:46 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy 
(Brooklyn, NY) wrote:

> I noticed my B IQ-X wasn't working this morning and then discovered 
> there's moisture inside the body of the light itself (see pic below). 
> Anyone have experience with this? Will it dry out itself or should I try to 
> take the light apart and dry it out? Super high humidity today so I'm 
> wondering if that's come into play. I can see that it's flickering when the 
> wheel rotates so it isn't a connection issue. It just doesn't fully 
> illuminate beyond the flicker. 
>
> [image: IMG-4818.jpg]
>

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Re: [RBW] ISO Brooklyn Riv Bike 'Gang'

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Same as Patch - but yeah, would love to join so will circle back if I can 
make it.

On Friday, June 3, 2022 at 8:00:07 AM UTC-4 Patch T wrote:

> I might be out of town. If I'm not out of town, I'd love to join!
>
> Patch
> E. Wburg
>
> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 9:07:44 PM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
> NY) wrote:
>
>> I would love to join. Let me check the calendar and get back to you guys. 
>> Later preferable for me too, Kai. 
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 3:35 PM Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY <
>> kaivi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Forts and friends! https://photos.app.goo.gl/pcwSpzmpWEvBTixM7 <—ft. 
>>> Tilden awhile back, with the good graffiti 
>>> That’s an always fun trip, when you thinking to start? I’d be able to do 
>>> a later in the day ride, leaving after 2:30ish?, but with so much to see 
>>> out there, I would understand if that were too late a start
>>>
>>> On Thursday, June 2, 2022 at 4:20:28 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
 I will be out of town but would love to another time. Never did that 
 ride!
 Alan

 Sent from my iPhone

>>>
 On Jun 2, 2022, at 3:58 PM, Minh  wrote:

 hey all bringing this to the top.  i have a free weekend 18th-19th, so 
 proposing a ride down to Far Rockaway, anyone else around want to join?  
 Ride down, stop at Fort for pictures, get some tacos or other beach food.  
  could do Sat or Sunday, or even Monday if you have the day off!



 On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 8:32:06 AM UTC-4 Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
 NY) wrote:

> LIC would work for me. $100 per month per person? I'd prob be willing 
> to go higher depending on the space, how many other people join, etc. 
>
> On Friday, April 29, 2022 at 6:54:16 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> I appreciate all leads and ideas. On the listings project, mentioned 
>> above, there are some spaces in LIC, an area I hadn't thought about.
>> This may be an unreasonable question right now, until we have 
>> something specific to consider, but does anyone have an idea of how much 
>> they would be able/willing to contribute to this? It might help in 
>> limiting 
>> the options. VERY rough ballpark figure, of course, with no obligations 
>> at 
>> all.
>> Alan
>>
>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 1:09:42 PM UTC-4 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
>> NY wrote:
>>
>>> There's this- https://bikecoop.nyc/ but it lacks the home base feel 
>>> that would be nice in a rental. Much cheaper though...
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 28, 2022 at 7:15:45 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
 We had a nice meet up yesterday at the Spritzenhaus (gotta love 
 that name): Kai, Michael, Stephan and me, all on Rivendells from 
 various 
 eras.
 To all New Yorkersanyone interested in sharing some rental 
 space to set up as a workshop? My guest bedroom is becoming overrun 
 with 
 stuff. Could be in Brooklyn, upper Manhattanjust need easy access 
 via 
 bike. I'm envisioning a bike shop like atmosphere, work bench with 
 vise 
 (Yeh), shared tools and spare parts. Small frig with libations, used 
 couch 
 for a nap, etc.

 Anyone else have this pipe dream? Or a lead on some space?

 Alan
 UWS

 On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 1:36:50 PM UTC-4 Minh wrote:

>  (sorry if this is a double send).  
>
> hey all,
>
> i'm sad to miss this get together, sounds like there is a decent 
> number!   as far as organizing, i'd propose a sheet like this 
> ,
>  
> where people can add their names and links to parts swap, etc. we can 
> also 
> use it as a shared calendar for activities.
>
> if you wanna test it, here's the link to the form 
> 
> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:41:40 AM UTC-4 Stephen wrote:
>
>> I'm in for the meetup, looking forward to it!
>>
>> -Stephen
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 11:04:46 AM UTC-4 Kainalu V. 
>> -Brooklyn NY wrote:
>>
>>> Might be a little late, coming from the dentist, hopefully not 
>>> numb, maybe with drop bars...
>>> -Kai
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 26, 2022 at 8:27:46 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
 Good Morning All,
 I'm hoping that tomorrow will be better for some of you, at 
 least. I suggest meeting at the Spritzen House, 33 Nassau st 
 

[RBW] Re: Club Rides On A Racing Platypus

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Great stories, as usual - I'm pretty sure I remember suggesting that you 
should consider converting that ol' Betty Foy into your drop bar go-fast 
bike a long time back ... 

On Wednesday, April 6, 2022 at 10:10:18 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> [image: 6982042D-DB05-4044-8AC4-9076A708539B.jpeg][image: 
> 0221807D-FECC-440C-AE2E-AF03DDB70770.jpeg]We moved to Michigan 4 months 
> ago. After years of being a Lone Wolf I did the unthinkable and joined the 
> local bike club. The club was founded by racers 50 (FIFTY!) years ago, but 
> they seemed welcoming enough. Having never ridden in a group, I lacked 
> knowledge of my pace and skill, did not knowif I’d enjoy club riding. I’ve 
> never been a road rider. The West has always offered me bike lanes and bike 
> paths - riding with cars going 55 mph seemed suicidal. Would it be 
> stressful? Would I be accepted? Would I be slow? My raspberry Platypus is 
> my lightest build. I don’t know how much it weighs, but it has a 
> lightweight Nitto rear rack, a Bag Boy Saddlesack (not pictured), and too 
> many things on the handlebars. Meet my club ride bike. 
>
> My Racing Platypus. 
>
> One of the board members took me under her wing. She invited her good 
> friend and organized a ride for the 3 of us. She taught me club etiquette 
> on the road. They rode carbon bikes with drop bars, but they did not 
> question my bike. It went great. Bolstered by that ride, I accepted her 
> invite to the first club ride of the season, provided we could ride in the 
> same group. “They’ll never believe it when you show up with that bike, 
> Leah, but you’re strong and you can definitely do club rides.” I have stars 
> in my eyes for this woman; she is admirable in every way. If she said I 
> could do it, I would try.
>
> I pulled into the park and it was carbon and drop bars as far as the eye 
> could see. A wave of nausea washed over me as I walked my Platypus to the 
> group huddle. Billie Bars on full display, Grant Safety triangle clasped 
> around my waist, looking like a true Lone Wolf, I stood in the circle. The 
> older members were very welcoming and found nice things to say about the 
> Racing Platypus. The younger racers…well, they ignored it. I’m just as 
> guilty; I find them terrifying, so I didn’t say hello, either. 
>
> My mentor put us in the 12-14 mph group. A good place to start. It proved 
> too easy and I coasted much of that 20 miles. We decided we’d do the 15-16 
> mph group next time. That day came and due to bad weather it was a small 
> turnout. We joined the slow group again because they would have only had 2 
> riders otherwise. We chose the route famous for its “rollers” (“What are 
> rollers?” the Platypus rider asked.) and conquered them in cold weather 
> with a headwind. The Racing Platypus, baptized on the mountains and hills 
> of Las Vegas, took no issue with those rollers. 
>
> The next night was the women’s ride - the first of the season. About 10 
> women, all experienced riders. Triathletes and marathoners, most. All on 
> drop bar carbon or aluminum. Wondering if they should create a slow and a 
> fast group, my mentor interrupted and said we’ll be one 15-16 mph group. 
> Leah can hang. 
>
> I hadn’t realized *I* was the reason they were considering a slow group, 
> but there it was.
>
> That was a challenging ride. Those women were fast. The route was 24 miles 
> and the wind was strong. I was able to stay in 2nd and 3rd position but I 
> was working to do it. I loved it; such fun to ride with bike people and to 
> let them plan the route. We passed by 4 lakes. We saw tons of wildlife. 
> Cars were nice to us and it felt safe to ride on roads with the group. I 
> got the “wow, a vintage bike” and “I’d like a cruiser bike, too” comments, 
> and one comment that assumed I must not be able to afford a carbon bike. 
> They don’t know how it’s possible not to be clipped in. They marveled at my 
> kickstand. But, I don’t mind because it’s so much fun to ride with them.
>
> Observations and Things I’m learning: 
> 1. Bike diversity is healthy. 
> It is good for racers to see Rivendells and similar style bikes in their 
> club rides. It is good for me to appreciate other kinds of bikes and other 
> riding styles. I can be as guilty as them for thinking my way/bike are best.
>
> 2. Bringing your practical, Just Ride mentality to a club is good. 
> It seems racer types don’t know about USING a bike. You cannot have your 
> carbon frame knocked about in a bike rack, so errands by bike/commuting 
> isn’t popular. I have been active on the club’s FB discussion page, and 
> been posting the 30 Days of Biking challenge. I’ve got pics of my huge 
> grocery hauls on my Shopping Platypus and the like. Surprisingly, they did 
> not know about this national challenge, and several of them are now joining 
> me, including my mentor!  Riding for pleasure and errands is a foreign 
> concept to most. They ride to go fast and get miles and be 

[RBW] Re: Buzzy hubs, hipster or window rattling?

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Joe - I have that same hub (or a T-11 or something) but yeah, it turned me 
off to loud hubs for good:

1. For the small percentage of riding that I get to do in the woods I found 
it really annoying, like, "no talking in the library" annoying!
2. When I had my bike on the stand doing tune ups or whatever the thing 
would be so loud I couldn't hear myself think!

Honestly, it even bugged me in NYC where I ride daily .. and that's really 
saying something. Now it hangs in the garage collecting dust ...

How's that for old man grouchy? 



On Thursday, February 10, 2022 at 5:40:38 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> I don't think you freewheel to scare old ladies while out PO-ing your 
> neighborhood. You didn't say if your custom was a balloon molded CFRP clack 
> resonator or if your wheels were of deep section non-metallic rims, single 
> digit spoke count or monocoque either. All those really add to project your 
> pawls' snapping over the edges of the teeth on the drive ring. That'd be a 
> real public menace. 
>
> My Suzue Classica is louder than my Shimano freehubs but those have also 
> been the only brand of freehubs on which I've had pawl failure. I 
> appreciate the different sound of a different freewheeling mechanism 
> because of that decades old experience, even now.. Shimano is probably the 
> only manufacturer able to engineer the acoustic signature of a freehub as 
> part of their product engineering and design development. I suspect  that 
> Onyx and others with quiet to silent clutch-like engagements do so as an 
> unintentional secondary gain to a alternate paradigm of freewheeling and 
> egagement, which is hip and cool itself.  
>
> If my rear hub ratchet racket means sturdier, I'm for it. Has nothing to 
> do with "not Shimano", that's just secondary gain for me. 
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Wednesday, February 9, 2022 at 10:58:17 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>
>> Just back from a ride on my fancy schmancy custom with its fancy schmancy 
>> White Industries hubs. Why did I think that loud freewheeling buzz was the 
>> cool jam?? I feel like I'm on a Harley with straight pipes pissing all the 
>> neighbors off! What's the verdict around here, are buzzy hubs hip and cool 
>> and I'm a grouchy old anti-hip and cool person? 
>>
>> Joe "uncool as always" Bernard 
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bike to Ride 70 Miles On

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Great story ... the first thing that came to mind for me was: if you can 
ride it 30 or 40 you can ride it 70!

On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 6:57:50 PM UTC-5 Jason Fuller wrote:

> That's awesome!  I have ridden a couple 200km (130 mile?) rides on my 
> Hillborne now and will push as far as I'm physically willing to on that 
> bike - it's not the fastest bike, for sure, but the comfort becomes really 
> welcome on very long rides, along with the stable handling. I have 
> considered a lighter, faster feeling bike for big rides but honestly I 
> don't think I'd like that better overall considering how nicely the Sam 
> rides. 
>
> I think comfort and intuitive handling are the top characteristics for 
> all-day rides to me, and this covers most Rivs thankfully! 
>
>
> On Sunday, 14 November 2021 at 06:48:09 UTC-8 Jeffrey Arita wrote:
>
>> Congratulations on completing the birthday ride!  I agree, any bicycle 
>> will do.  
>>
>> This:  * >   Time and determination are key  I think   <*
>>
>> All the Best,
>>
>> Jeff & Lori
>> Claremont, CA
>>
>> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 6:31:29 AM UTC-8 philipr...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I've seen your friends on those Townies a number of times at WWL, aways 
>>> do a smile & a wave.
>>> On Sunday, November 14, 2021 at 7:48:54 AM UTC-6 Ryan wrote:
>>>
 Good on you guys! made my day!

 I turn 70 next December (2022)...maybe I'll make that a goal! I'm sure 
 your wife and her friend were glad you came along. If I was doing 
 something 
 like this, I'd want company too...and it doesn't matter how long it takes. 
 Ideally I'd do some kind of out-and-back  into the wind in the AM and 
 tailwind for the PM but sometimes it doesn't work out that way. I'd have 
 to 
 work up to it , though

 Yes, Rivs are fine bikes. I'd probably use my Road with drop bars...my 
 other ones have moustache and choco; after 50 miles I'm missing drop bars.

 But enough about me...congratulations to all of you!

 Ryan in Winnipeg




 On Saturday, November 13, 2021 at 11:00:06 PM UTC-6 Lucky wrote:

> That’s rad!
> Those Electra pedal-forward bikes have kept my in laws able to bike 
> into their 70’s.
> My mom finally overcame her personal feelings associated with trikes, 
> and bought one last year (her balance is poor following an injury). Now 
> she 
> rides that trike whenever the weather allows and just loves having the 
> option to bike.
> I agree, if you’re comfortable on a bicycle the only limit to how far 
> you can ride it is your own endurance. 
> Happy Birthday to your wife!
>
> On Nov 13, 2021, at 20:51, st nick  wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> What bike would you pick to ride 70 miles?
>
> Some of you probably regularly do that distance.
>
> My regular range is 20 to 40 miles.
>
> It's been a long time since I rode 70 miles and I was a much younger 
> fellow.
>
> I think about any Rivendell model is up to the task.
>
> Of course a lot depends on the rider and if they are up to the task.
>
> Some might choose their lightest and/or fastest bike.
>
> I pose this question to see what people think and there will likely be 
> a lot of different view points about it.
>
> I learned something today.
> A bike one wouldn't necessarily think would be a good candidate for 
> that mileage can still work.
>
> My wife and her good friend decided they wanted to make a 70 mile 
> attempt today to celebrate my wife turning 70.
>
> I'm along for the ride and mechanical support if needed.
>
> I admit was a bit skeptical as they haven't been doing a great deal of 
> riding the last few months  perhaps in the range of 30 or so per week.
>
> Heck, I didn't even know if I could make it that far.
>
> Also they have comfort style Electra  Townie and Trek Pure bikes. 
> (Very similar...I think Trek bought Electra) not exactly light weights. 
> They have that pedal forward design in which the bottom bracket and crank 
> are 3 or so inches forward of the seat tube.
>
> This allows a rider to have their saddle at the correct height but put 
> their foot on the ground without getting off the saddle. 
>
> Cool design for certain riders, I think, especially older people of 
> which our group of 3 are getting into that category.
>
>
> One is geared 1x7 and one a 2x7 and both have grip shifts.
>
> I should have probably taken my Sam Hillbourne but we needed a basket 
> to carry stuff so I grabbed my 1990 Miele mtb I had converted to urban 
> cruiser and grocery getter. It's very comfortable and has a pretty 
> relaxed 
> geometry. 
>
> I think around 40 miles was my previous longest distance on it.
>
> I keep all 3 bicycles pretty well 

[RBW] Re: Re-Introduction

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Nice to meet you, Dave - I've been hanging around here for years but 
haven't been posting much since 2019 or so. I will say I'm jealous of your 
LBS though - I love those guys and once managed to squeeze in a visit and 
ride with them (not an easy feat when you live in NYC)! Anyway, they've got 
great energy and give off great vibes. Nice looking Sam, btw - and you're 
in good hands should you need help with it 'cause the GS and Cub House crew 
know what's what in the world and have a healthy respect for all things Riv 
...

On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 11:42:45 PM UTC-4 Dave in Los Angeles wrote:

> [image: tempImagestGBod.bmp]
>
> On Monday, April 26, 2021 at 8:15:38 PM UTC-7 Dave in Los Angeles wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I've been on here since '09, but don't post much. Though I'm a pretty 
>> consistent lurker. I was on BOB too, but that info seems to be gone. (Did 
>> nobody save the old forum data? Is that even a thing?)
>>
>> I work about a block from Golden Saddle Cyclery and love being so close 
>> to the world they've helped build in Los Angeles. A 100 years ago I worked 
>> at Wheelworks Belmont where I really lived/breathed bikes. Now I mess 
>> around in the garage and ride when I can. 
>>
>> Just sold my Quickbeam frame/fork and picked up a Sam, but I'm still not 
>> decided on the direction to go with it just yet. What bigger decision is 
>> there? I'll probably throw up some parts for sale and see where that gets 
>> me. Maybe I'll sell the fixed Paul wheels and go to a 1x11...
>>
>> My wife rides an '89 B-Stone MB-1 that I futz with occasionally for 
>> yucks. I'm now on the lookout for a bi-plane forked MB-1 to do a parts 
>> swap. 
>>
>> Dave
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Tomorrow’s the day! New Mixte Day!

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I know that excitement - and I know the sleeplessness - or restless sleep 
it produces. The all-night-in-your-head conversations regarding that one 
precious object. It's an odd sensation to balance when we all know the ups 
and downs of contemporary life. The constant dance of need to balance the 
bigger things ... the "really" important stuff: family, health, etc. And 
yes, sometimes I do feel guilt over the covet ... but oh man (!) what it 
does for the soul to search and find (!) I truly hope everyone can 
experience that one small personal inner joy over something, sometime in 
their lives that Leah just perfectly encapsulated.

On Tuesday, October 27, 2020 at 11:08:18 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Yesterday, I got the email I’ve been waiting for since...well, forever. Or 
> since 2018, which is the same thing. Tomorrow around 2 or 3 pm, that UPS 
> truck will pull up, and the friendly guy in the brown uniform will be 
> lugging a (hopefully intact) box from Rivendell. Inside will be the 
> glittery raspberry mixte that I have been pining for for YEARS. The first 
> Platypus, the only one of its kind, and I am dangerously close to imploding 
> with happiness.
>
> Years ago, maybe 2013, I saw a lipstick pink Rivendell custom mixte on 
> Flickr. It belonged to a woman who loved it fiercely and still does, to 
> this day (she has posted it on social media as recently as April 2020). I 
> thought I would want her exact bike, if I could choose whatever bike and 
> color I wanted. Some time later, I saw a red Glorius (Cyclofiend’s wife’s 
> bike) and I liked that even better. I changed my mind and said if I ever 
> got a chance to choose, I’d choose a metallic red Rivendell. Then I made 
> the famous PurpleRiv’s acquaintance, and I saw her beautiful custom mixte 
> with the sexy swoops in the back and I thought, “Actually, I’d like a bike 
> like hers, but in metallic cranberry.” When rumors of the Anniversary Mixte 
> swirled on the Blahg, I hoped for that bike to be the One Bike to Rule Them 
> All. Maybe the AM could be the right mixte in the right color. But that 
> bike was never made.
>
> But tomorrow something will arrive that has exceeded all my previous 
> ideals. I will get a Rivendell mixte with the sexy swoops like PurpleRiv’s 
> in a color that you’d imagine if you combined cranberry red and lipstick 
> pink.
>
> A Raspberry Metallic Rivendell Mixte.
>
> I did not sleep last night and I doubt I will sleep tonight. This will 
> make sense to no one (except maybe my #RivSisters) but I have spent the 
> last couple of hours getting ready for my bike to arrive tomorrow. I 
> cleaned my house. Washed my floors. I went up to my room and gave myself 
> the spa treatment. Clarifying masks. Pumice stones. I gave myself a 
> manicure and pedicure and all my nails are painted raspberry with a shiny, 
> clear topcoat. I can’t explain why this had to be done but it feels like a 
> natural part of the process to me. I chose my outfit and have planned my 
> day. I love my RBW Blue Clementine, but I’m ready to park a Rivendell mixte 
> next to it. 
>
> I will try to get good photos tomorrow, but I might also just tip over. 
> This is a bolus of joy in an otherwise difficult year. I have imagined this 
> bike for so long and now it will finally be real.
>
> I can’t wait for tomorrow! Thanks for celebrating with me here. It is good 
> to be among friends.
> Leah
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Have an idea for my stash of unused camera film

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That's a beautiful gesture, Daniel. Attached a link to a free shipping 
label. If you're not in a rush, use it and send us your rolls. Just add a 
note to me and we'll process them for free. D/M me and we'll sort out a 
significant discount for full roll scanning and return shipping as well 
- and in the spirit of Daniel's gesture, this goes for everyone on the list 
whether he sent you the film or not.

We're doing our best here to preserve our chemistry with the goal to 
ultimately bring all of our employees back & reopen when we're allowed. We 
did a "closed door" processing run yesterday and our customers delivered 
triple what we expected ... all with no customer service, no cash 
transactions, pick-up outside the door, etc (!) There was a lot of love 
there and we're extremely grateful. 

Stay strong (and sane) everyone !!!

Lab: https://www.lti-lightside.com/film-processing-proofing
shipping 
label: 
https://returns.usps.com/CreateLabel.aspx?ID=9407=Customer=No
Lab Instagram: @lti_lightside

Jeffrey Kane
@jsknycbikes


On Wednesday, April 1, 2020 at 4:49:28 PM UTC-4, Daniel D. wrote:
>
> Awhile back because of Grant etc.  Thought about getting into film 
> cameras.  Grabbed a deal on b/w film .  Wary of hobby creep and expense of 
> developing i shelved the idea.  But still have the film in my fridge, 
> expired date last year.  Someone's covid camera sale reminded me about that 
> film.  
>
> Came up with an idea for my stash of film. Send film out to people on here 
> and maybe ibob.  Request in return, AT LEAST one photo from the pictures 
> you take using the film. What do you guys think of my idea? If i decide to 
> do it I'll start a new thread (s)
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Vaughn's custom for sale

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I started this damn thread .. and could not be more jealous (!). 

Fit wise: I'd want to be able to switch between drops and say, bull moose 
(and yet, still hope the BB wasn't too high) but hey, that's why the call 
it "custom" isn't it?

On Wednesday, March 4, 2020 at 8:19:49 PM UTC-5, Michael / SF wrote:
>
> Buyer checking in! Yes, the plan is to add more chips to the frame but 
> ultimately cake it all in dirt. Will is a friend, and I told him I’ll think 
> of him every time I see the paint chip. We laughed about it.
>
> I asked Grant to compare the design to any Rivendell, past or present. He 
> chose the Hunqapillar, except with a level-ish top tube and lighter tubing. 
> He told me he spent tons of time and energy designing the frame, poring 
> over all the details and repeatedly, with an ear-to-ear grin, paused to 
> remind me that "this is a really, *really* - *really* - good frame.”
>
> He went on to praise Mark Nobilette and Joe Bell for being masters of 
> their craft, and hinted at the “small run” MUSA frames coming later this 
> year (sorry, didn’t get specifics). I could tell he is excited that Riv can 
> generate hopefully-lucrative business for small custom shops like Nobilette 
> and Bell, who he believes deserve to rake in the big bucks, but don’t. Not 
> even close.
>
> Assorted things:
>
>- Yes, this was “Vaughn’s out of spec custom”, but it deserves to be 
>called “The Flyweight Hillibike Custom.”
>- This is exactly how I’d spec a Riv custom. In other words, “please 
>mix the Susie/Wolbis - a hillibike for lightweights like me - with a 
>Hunqapillar. Keep classic Riv details like shorter chainstays, fancy 
> custom 
>lugs, level-ish top tube, and soothing green paint. Design for Bullmoose 
> or 
>Albatross bars, cantis, and tire clearance up to 2.35. Plan for mountain 
>biking and camping overnighters. Use the lightest tubing you feel 
>comfortable with, but I can’t promise I won’t load it up.”
>- No, I wouldn’t spec the fancy dyno dropout tabs, nor would I spec 
>the triple bottle cage mount. In reality, all this amounts to is a single 
>extra bottle mount. I’ll make use of it one day!
>- I measure 1 PBH less than Vaughn and weigh a couple pounds more. All 
>angles and measurements jived.
>- My beloved 48cm/26” Hunq is slightly small for me. I’ve considered 
>commissioning a MUSA 51cm/650b Hunq, but Rivendell won’t tweak stock frame 
>tubing without entering $4000 custom territory. Alas, nothing happened 
>until this custom popped up out of nowhere. Perfect!
>   - From the website: “*A custom takes your weight and riding style 
>   into consideration, but a stock frame comes in one tube weight 
> only---which 
>   is just fine if you're in the normal weight range (for normal people, 
> not 
>   for pro- cyclers). If you're super stout for your height, maybe you DO 
> need 
>   a custom. If you're really light for your height, there again, we can 
> build 
>   your custom with tubes lighter than those we'd put on the equivalent A. 
>   Homer Hilsen, Atlantis, or whatever.*”
>- Yes, the frame was expensive, but Rivendell is a local business I 
>love to support, especially in this wild chapter in San Francisco Bay Area 
>history. My tax return really helped out and, again, they sold the frame 
> at 
>cost.
>- You’ll be pleased to hear that Joe Bell provided touch up paint for 
>the frame.
>
>
> Grant was visibly jazzed about the frame, so much so that I jokingly made 
> him say goodbye to it before leaving the warehouse, but I promised I'd 
> bring it back next time I ride Shell Ridge.
>
> Note that multiple people on this thread, many of my cycling friends, me, 
> and at least one past Rivendell employee all want to ride a frame exactly 
> like The Flyweight Hillibike Custom. The demand is out there. With that 
> said, no regrets - I’m happy with the purchase.
>
> I’ll post build photos when I get ‘em. Cheers!
>
> Michael
> SF / CA
>
> On Monday, March 2, 2020 at 3:08:40 PM UTC-8, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>> I hope the buyer rode it in the dirt and put a couple more scratches on 
>> it and thinks we're a bunch of idiots who need to get off the internet! 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Vaughn's custom for sale

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

nd ... it appears to be sold!


On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 10:38:05 PM UTC-5, John G. wrote:
>
> What are the imperfections, aside from the paint chip? I don’t think it’s 
> high at all. It’s 700 less than the going rate.

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[RBW] Re: Vaughn's custom for sale

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Here's the link:

https://www.rivbike.com/products/flyweight-hillibike-custom-54-8cm?_sid=b14ca0d6e&_ss=r&_pos=2&_ke=eyJrbF9lbWFpbCI6ICJqZWZmcmV5LmthbmVAbWFjLmNvbSIsICJrbF9jb21wYW55X2lkIjogIkxWYjZhQyJ9

On Thursday, February 27, 2020 at 5:44:18 PM UTC-5, Ray Varella wrote:
>
> What size is it?
>
> Thank you 
> Ray
>

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[RBW] Vaughn's custom for sale

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omg - my size ... everything screams *RIGHT* about it. And I mean, 
*everything* ... well, except for the $3300.00 part (to my wallet, I mean).
Though, I am curious about the BB drop?

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivsack Banana Sax, Paul Skewers, TRP Brake levers, Helix coffee dripper

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Hey Phil - I'll take those Paul skewers. Can PAyPal immediately / just lmk 
/ jsk

On Wednesday, February 26, 2020 at 9:42:34 PM UTC-5, phil k wrote:
>
> I am moving and finally pared down to one bike. I've dialed it in, and so 
> I no longer need some of these parts:
>
> Riv Sackville Banana Sax Olive Green, new condition - $95 shipped
>
> Pair of Paul QR skewers, 100mm & 130-135mm rear, silver with orange, new 
> condition - $60 shipped
>
> TRP RRL brake levers, gum hoods - $40 shipped
>
> Optimus kettle - $15 shipped
>
> Helix Coffee dripper - $10 shipped
>
> Sugino 165mm crank arms with 38t Raceface narrow wide ring - $50 shipped
>
> Sugino chainrings, 44t & 34t - $10 shipped
>
> Since I am busy moving, if you are buying multiple things, I'll knock off 
> prices.
>
> [image: IMG_20200226_212523.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_20200226_212518.jpg]
>
> [image: IMG_20200226_212550.jpg]
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> [image: IMG_20200226_212421.jpg]
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> [image: IMG_20200226_212704.jpg]
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> [image: IMG_20200226_212614.jpg]
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> [image: IMG_20200226_212336.jpg]
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> [image: IMG_20200226_213919.jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Chain rubbing rear tire on Clem.

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I guess it depends on how you use your bike and how chill a human you are. 
Me, I tend to be less chill about things like that. It shouldn't happen on 
a bike that's supposedly spec'd for tires that big (or quite frankly, any 
properly designed bike). If it's just a matter of spacers not being 
installed on the cassette then that's an easy fix. I wouldn't be opposed to 
1mm to 1.5mm spacers on a BB shell either .. or flat out changing the BB 
spindle length. But otherwise no. I could not stand for chain rub on a tire 
...  even in a lightly used gear.


On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 12:54:20 PM UTC-5, Jim Whorton wrote:
>
> Thanks, all.  I'll leave it alone for now...never noticed it while riding, 
> only while looking at it on the stand.
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, February 24, 2020 at 11:59:07 AM UTC-5, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Jim:
>>
>> I wouldn’t worry about this. The chain isn’t going to wear down the tire, 
>> but the tire might deposit a little dirt on the chain.
>>
>> I have one or two bikes which have a very minor rubbing issue in one 
>> ring/cog combo that I use probably less than 1% of the time. I just live 
>> with it.
>>
>> --Eric N
>>
>> On Feb 24, 2020, at 6:40 AM, Jim Whorton  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hi--
>>
>> I have noticed on my Clem that the chain rubs the rear tire slightly when 
>> the bike is in lowest gear (small ring in front, big cog in back).  It's a 
>> 59cm Clem H, which I bought complete, so the bottom bracket, etc are as 
>> installed by Riv.  The tire is a 2" Kenda Kwick Nine and the cassette is a 
>> 9 speed.
>>
>> Anybody seen this before, or have advice on it?  I don't see any weird 
>> wear on the side of the tire--and of course I don't use that gear much, 
>> only briefly on a steep incline--so maybe Riv set it up this way 
>> deliberately, rather than going with a wider BB to avoid the rub in that 
>> gear.
>>
>> So maybe it's not a big deal.  On the other hand, I'd rather not have the 
>> chain rubbing the tire
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv Waterford All Rounder, '97-ish

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Hey Joe - I sent you a P/M but it could have gotten lost in the ether ...

Two quick questions:

1. What's the widest tire that thing will run and/or what's the width on 
the knobbies you're showing in the pics?
2. What's the stand over height?

many thanks / jsk 

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 11:11:30 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Yep, I'm turning this one around. My 26-er Clem L turned out to meet my 
> needs better and I have a custom on the way which will fill the AR's spot. 
> Your turn to ride it! 
>
> 52cm ST
> 54.5 cm TT
>
> Very dark metallic blue, almost black.
> There's an owner name on the toptube. It came to me with pieces of black 
> electrical tape covering it, which actually blends in pretty well with the 
> color. Not perfect, of course, but it's a vintage frame with its share of 
> minor beausage so I quickly forgot about it. YRMV. 
>
> Selling as you see here as a frankenbuild, you should consider it a 
> functioning bicycle ready for you to put all your cool stuff on. 
>
> ChocoMoose bars
> Ritchey post
>
> Shimano cantis, no model name, it's the ones Riv used to sell, I think 
> they called them "Ultegra level" and put them on ARs and LongLows.
>
> Vuelta wheels off an mtb I had, not particularly pretty but they go round 
> in circles
> 8-speed era XT rear derailer
> Microshift fd
> 9-speed SRAM 11-4O cassette. That derailer won't climb it, I probably have 
> another cassette I can swap in. Or take it as is and put a modern derailer 
> on it. 
>
> That shorty crank (152, I love short cranks) is coming off, I have a nice 
> black Sugino 165 34-46 double to swap in.
>  
> Shimano bar-end on Paul Thumbie for the front. Rear is locked out, it's 
> just a short piece of cable holding the mech in place, I only shift the 
> front cuz it spares my bad right wrist and it works and I like it. You'll 
> need a rear shifter. 
> Tektro thin-blade brake levers, Ergon grips. 
> Tubus stainless rack. Can't remember the model but a lister just sold it 
> to me and it's nifty. 
> No saddle or pedals. 
>
>
> $2000 + shipping or best offer or maybe you have a Brompton to throw in 
> the deal cuz I don't have one right now and hey who doesn't like Bromptons? 
>
> Email or text for way more pics and questions and general back-and-forth 
> about bikes and parts and whatnot,
> joeremi62 gmail com
> 415 786 4623
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Bernard
> Novato CA. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot limits

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I'm 99.9% sure you can't fit 47's and fenders on a Chev ... so that leaves 
you in the 42 / 1.75 tire with fenders category. We're running Hetres and 
V/O Snakeskin fenders (and those are technically only 50 but it's working) 
on a 55. I could probably scare up a few pics of the fit if you're 
interested



On Monday, November 4, 2019 at 1:48:30 PM UTC-5, Jay Lonner wrote:
>
> Over the weekend I took advantage of Riv's Halloween promotion and ordered 
> up a Cheviot for my wife. Right now she's riding an undersized Salsa 
> Casseroll with Panaracer Pasela 32s, and I'd like to provide her with a 
> plusher ride similar to my Hunq wth Big Bens (she prefers a step-through 
> frame though, so a Hunq is out). We live in the PNW so fenders are 
> non-negotiable. When I talked to the nice man at Riv over the weekend he 
> suggested something no wider than a 40, but that seems a little 
> conservative to me. I'd be curious to know what tires other Cheviot riders 
> are using. Could I make a Little Big Ben work without too much hassle? On a 
> related note, any thoughts on what brakes provide the most clearance? I'd 
> like to use the Paul centerpulls, but are the Dia-Compes going to do a 
> better job of accommodating fenders and a fattish tire?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jay Lonner
> Bellingham, WA
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: A Lesson: When buying a vehicle that will transport a Clem, measure twice and buy once.

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Good point on the height. The thought of needing step ladder and an 
articulated rear rack for bikes makes me crazy. 

I checked with VW, btw. The Passat has already been discontinued. I should 
also note that both Audi and BMW still offer their full size wagons to the 
European markets. Heck, even Mercedes Benz offers *three* engine packages 
to the Canadian market for their E450 wagon.

We're nutty here in the USA.

On Thursday, October 31, 2019 at 8:41:48 AM UTC-4, David Bivins wrote:
>
> Hear hear on station wagons. When our son was born 11 years ago, I did the 
> research and ended up choosing a used 2004 VW Passat Wagon. It has a 
> ridiculous amount of cargo space. My Clem slides in fairly easily with the 
> rear seats down, and I also bring my Clem to my VW mechanic's when I need 
> to leave the car for service. It's just such a practical vehicle. 
> Apparently it has some sort of cachet with the young folks, too. I was 
> outside near my car one day recently (we park on the street in Brooklyn) 
> and there was a trio of stylish young men admiring the car. I went to open 
> the door and one of them said "Is this your car? Nice. 2004, right?" 
> They all nodded their approval. It made me feel better about the "beausage" 
> which is more like "abusage" that the body's taken from being on the street 
> all these years.
>
> On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 8:01 AM 'jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Personally, I LOVE station wagons  and I think, cool is what you make 
>> it. We've been in various V-Series Volvo wagons for the past 22 years. The 
>> only bike that doesn't slide in whole into the back with the rear seats 
>> folded down is my wife's ridiculously long Cheviot. For that land yacht, I 
>> have to use the roof rack.
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: A Lesson: When buying a vehicle that will transport a Clem, measure twice and buy once.

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Personally, I LOVE station wagons  and I think, cool is what you make 
it. We've been in various V-Series Volvo wagons for the past 22 years. The 
only bike that doesn't slide in whole into the back with the rear seats 
folded down is my wife's ridiculously long Cheviot. For that land yacht, I 
have to use the roof rack.

It's new car time in our house though ... the current (2007) wagon is 
getting the boot and currently there's bit of a debate as to whether we're 
going to switch brands before we're both rolling around in wheelchairs! I 
don't see a minivan in our future, though (my ego might be too fragile for 
that) but I also couldn't be less enthused when looking at the current crop 
of "crossover" SUV's. Most, as noted here already aren't any bigger than 
our wagons ... most, in fact, are smaller! Unfortunately, true full size 
wagons are few and far between here in the USA these days.

I also haven't had a car without a roof rack in over 25 years now. 
Practically everything ends up on top at some point: paddle boards, 
sailboats, skis, bikes, furniture, and of course, christmas trees. I find 
it funny that most car salesmen aren't prepared for our questions about 
what will fit and where ... it seems like a lot of folks buy those big ol' 
SUV's and drive 'em around full of air 

On Tuesday, October 29, 2019 at 10:33:51 PM UTC-4, LeRoy wrote:
>
> When I bought my Clem 59 in the Spring of 2018, I carried it back from New 
> Jersey to Michigan *inside* a very sub-compact Jeep Renegade, along with 
> three guys and enough luggage and gear for a long weekend. Granted, the 
> Clem was reduced to its smallest sub-units: frame, wheels, handlebar, 
> fenders, seat, racks, etc. But it all fit. Inside. And so did three grown 
> men + gear. This was all fine for a one-time transport but not conducive to 
> regularly carting the Clem around.
> Earlier this year, I did a trial fit of the Clem in my wife's somewhat 
> bigger Jeep Compass. With the bike's front wheel removed and the car's 
> front passenger seat all the way forward, the Clem was a *very* tight 
> fit. Still indoors, but human occupancy in the front passenger seat wasn't 
> going to happen. The result was one person and one bike safely on board. 
> Clearly, I needed a bigger vehicle.
> So, as I shopped for a replacement for the Renegade, I figured that moving 
> up the Jeep food chain one notch - to the Cherokee model - would result in 
> a better Clem-fit. Nope. Who would have thunk that the 
> bigger-on-the-outside Cherokee was actually smaller-on-the-inside? It would 
> *barely* accommodate the Clem! The bike fits less well in the Cherokee 
> than the Compass. It's certainly more difficult to load and unload. Of 
> course, discovering this occurred *after* leasing the new Cherokee.
> The lesson is, apparently, to take one's bike along when car-shopping. Or 
> bring the test ride home long enough to test-fit the bike. Or, to borrow 
> from the old carpenter's adage, measure twice, buy once.
> Other than that, I really like both the Clem and the new Cherokee. But the 
> end result is that the Jeep will be getting a trailer hitch and the Clem 
> will be riding outdoors, on the back of the Cherokee.
> Anyone else run into a similar doesn't-quite-fit dilemma? ...or have a 
> clever solution that hasn't occurred to me?
>

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Re: [RBW] A Genuine Pretend Anniversary Mixte

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

wowza, that is a special rig at a completely reasonable price (!)

On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 9:38:00 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> I think all the models you mention with extra seat stays going to the rear 
> dropout are considered "actual" mixtes. (See Sheldon Brown 
> *:.) I've always been curious 
> about the etymology of this word as used to describe bicycles. In most 
> translations, it is used in the sense of "unisex" or co-educational. Also 
> dual purpose or hybrid, or combined. The English words "dual" , "twin" and 
> "double" all translate as "double" in French. I guess you could translate 
> it as a "mix of two steel tubes" but almost all uses of mixte, or the 
> French phrase "structure mixte" refer to the mixing of two different 
> things--concrete and cement, passengers and cargo, boys and girls. A 
> cuisinière mixte can use two different fuels. 
>
> Years ago I came across a taxonomy chart of bicycle frame styles. I can no 
> longer find it. But I do recall the mixte being defined as Sheldon does, 
> the three seat stays, with two top tube variants, the single and double. A 
> bike with the top tube angled toward the rear dropouts but with no extra 
> seat stays was called, I believe, a Ladies Sport frame. Of course this 
> definition would tend to negate the notion that "mixte" refers to  a unisex 
> coed style. So who knows. I'm going with "mixte' became a popular way for 
> the public (mostly in France) to refer to this style of frame that could 
> easily be ridden by both sexes, and that is what it became.  But one known 
> known is that a Clem L is a step through, and a mixte is not, anniversary 
> edition or otherwise.
>
> Speaking of custom mixtes, Lovely Bicycle/aka Veloria/aka Constance's old 
> Royal mixte 
> 
>  
> has been for sale on eBay for some time. Not a Leah approved colorway, 
> however. Also  different geo than a Rivendel mixte. 
> Explained here: 
> http://lovelybike.blogspot.com/2010/11/mixte-vs-mixte-whats-difference.html
>
> * A style of lady's  
> frame in which the "top tube 
> " consists of a 
> pair of small diameter tubes running more-or-less straight from the upper 
> head lug , past the seat 
> tube , and on to 
> the rear fork ends . 
> A mixte frame thus has 3 sets of rear stays, instead of the usual two. A 
> variant on the mixte uses a single, full sized top tube running from the 
> upper head tube to the seat tube, but retains the middle set of stays. A 
> lady's type bike that lacks the middle pair of stays is not a mixte.
>
>
> On Monday, September 30, 2019 at 3:07:34 PM UTC-4, lconley wrote:
>>
>> What makes the Anniversary Mixte special is that it is an actual Mixte 
>> with twin top tubes. As far as I know, this would be a first for a 
>> non-custom Rivendell. I have a Betty Foy (now claimed by my wife - she 
>> loves the hearts in the lugs and the paint), a Clementine, a Roscoe 
>> Bubbe Medium Mountain Mixte, and am waiting on the Roscoe Baby and not one 
>> of them is an actual Mixte.
>> formerly from Gainesville, FL, soon to be from Delray Beach, FL
>>
>>



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Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder

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Yep Mark -- perfectly stated and well understood. And yet, we fawn all over 
the simple Grant appointed 26" wide clearance level top tube model when it 
shows up. It feels like an ethos thing to me. I realize that the Atlantis 
got the nod for it ... but clearly, the All Rounder (and even the Hunq) 
still tug at the heart strings around here. 

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019 at 8:34:51 AM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> More than half the Riv lineup consists of all-rounders in various 
> configurations, including the Atlantis in 26" for many years. I would say 
> these bikes represent the design evolution of the all-rounder as 
> interpreted by G. Petersen.
>
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 7:37 AM 'jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> I've never understood why the All-Rounder doesn't have a permanent place 
>> in the line up. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 2:32:36 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Here's the first shots of my new-to-me A/R sans front fender and rack, 
>>> and before I upright it with Boscos. It's a bummer I can't use those sweet 
>>> carbon Campy brifters, but alas my arthritic wrists won't put up with drops 
>>> anymore. 
>>>
>>> I'm curious about the sizing. The early Reader geometry chart doesn't 
>>> match it at all, this one has a 52cm ST, 55cm TT, which mimics the 52cm 
>>> Bstone XO-1. Based on the serial number (what I can see of it) I believe 
>>> this was built in 1997, did Waterford ever do custom A/Rs for Riv? 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard
>>> Novato CA.  
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[RBW] Re: All Rounder

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I've never understood why the All-Rounder doesn't have a permanent place in 
the line up. 

On Tuesday, September 24, 2019 at 2:32:36 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's the first shots of my new-to-me A/R sans front fender and rack, and 
> before I upright it with Boscos. It's a bummer I can't use those sweet 
> carbon Campy brifters, but alas my arthritic wrists won't put up with drops 
> anymore. 
>
> I'm curious about the sizing. The early Reader geometry chart doesn't 
> match it at all, this one has a 52cm ST, 55cm TT, which mimics the 52cm 
> Bstone XO-1. Based on the serial number (what I can see of it) I believe 
> this was built in 1997, did Waterford ever do custom A/Rs for Riv? 
>
> Joe Bernard
> Novato CA.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB -- BOBish bike. And -- thoughts on this Romlus FS?

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Like Kai says: the Jumble is worth a look. On the other hand - that's not a 
terrible deal for a canti 700c all-roadish bike that appears to fit 35's. 
Also considering that it's a Riv and may likely have that silky-magic Riv 
feel. Anyone know max tire size on a Rom? If it fits 38's then I might not 
hesitate.

On Sunday, August 25, 2019 at 8:09:17 PM UTC-4, Conor Skelding wrote:
>
> New to the list, and very grateful to have found my way to the 
> BOB/Riv/unracer subculture. Short tours and commutes and rides for errands 
> have been how I've biked since I was a kid, and it was welcome to see this 
> all expressed as a coherent ideology..
>
> I've had my 2008 Jamis Aurora (cromoly steel) touring bike since that 
> year, and am now looking for a new (to me) bike.
>
> If anyone is looking to sell a BOBish bike, in New York City or the 
> region, please let me know. I'm not looking for the perfect RB-1 at this 
> point in my life. Missed the bike boom by a few years, and am looking for a 
> venerable steel frame from the 70s-90s. Projects welcome.
>
> Saw this listing on local CL. Thoughts?
>
>
> https://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/bik/d/brooklyn-rivendell-romulus-cantilever/6960747507.html
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendell Nitto Basket Rack

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Is that $250.00 the firm moving forward price, I wonder? 

>From my perspective the addition of a traditional tombstone would make this 
rack way more versatile -- but that's my running complaint about a lot of 
platform racks on the market today. I get the need for a back stop when 
attaching a basket ...  but why negate the usefulness of a tombstone as 
well for anyone looking to run a traditionally configured handlebar bag as 
an option?


On Thursday, August 15, 2019 at 1:03:25 AM UTC-4, Drw wrote:
>
> 250$ was a bit of a letdown for me. There are a lot of racks that have 
> come about to fill this niche in the last couple years, and it’s hard for 
> me to fully grasp how this one is so much better to justify an additional 
> 100$. 
>
> A 3 bar pass and stow costs only 30$ more and is essentially a USA made 
> custom rack with pannier capability. 

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Re: [RBW] First Rivendell — sizing question

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You'd have to work pretty damn hard to get either of those three models 
anywhere near 18lbs and fitted for practical commuting. I'd wager it's 
impossible, actually .. and anyway, that's not the Riv ethos. The Sam or 
Homer with fenders, at least one rack and a basket and a full compliment of 
mid to upper tier parts: drive train, cockpit, rim, hubs, tires, etc. is at 
best going to run 25 lbs (+) minimum. Nothing wrong with that ... but by 
minimum I mean closer to 28 to 30 in real world weight.

On Wednesday, June 5, 2019 at 5:07:40 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> "Racy?"  Surely not "racist."  
> On 6/5/19 4:56 PM, Fullylugged wrote:
>
>  A racist build will be down to 18 lbs or so. 
>
> -- 
> Steve Palincsar
> Alexandria, Virginia 
> USA
>
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[RBW] Re: In praise of Silver Shifters

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What Pam Bikes said, except the opposite: if anyone is looking to sell a 
pair of Shimano 9 speed bar end shifters (Ultegra or Dura Ace) then I'm 
'yer man. Just let me know!

On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 12:02:26 AM UTC-4, Pam Bikes wrote:
>
> If you still have them, I'll buy them as a back up.
>
>
> On Saturday, April 27, 2019 at 9:25:31 AM UTC-4, William! wrote:
>>
>> Maybe I got a bad set? I had terrible ghost shifting problems from mine! 
>> After several years of fiddling with other things to try to fix I replaced 
>> them with Dura Ace dt shifters (converted to bar end). Problem solved.
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Lookie at my new to me Saluki!

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That's a good one, alright: great color AND canti bosses!

On Wednesday, May 8, 2019 at 7:56:50 PM UTC-4, Justin Schoop wrote:
>
> Received this beautiful Saluki today. My favorite frame that Rivendell has 
> produced and I'm so thankful to have this canti Saluki. I love the setup 
> for kid hauling and family cruises. I intend on adding a few things like 
> fenders and a dynamo but other than that, I think it's perfect for what I 
> was looking for. It's serial # is SA0013, lucky 13! I'll take some time 
> this weekend to take nice pictures if the weather cooperates. 
>
> Justin
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

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Patrick -- ha! I like your thinking ... but the OP was asking about cockpit 
swaps (!)

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 2:17:18 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Let me elucidate. You can buy a very reliable used car for $10K. The 
> average new car cost in 2018 was $35K, per a quick Google (vi). If you 
> shell out for 3 new Rivs at $4K/each -- you get the picture. And $4K is 
> pretty generous.
>
> Where do all the deep pockets come from? That's 1 answer.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 10:51 AM Patrick Moore  > wrote:
>
>> The deep pockets come from driving old cars no more miles than necessary. 
>> With 3 bikes (+ folder/beater) I drive -- what, 1K miles/year?. Even paying 
>> for gas and insurance (!) and repairs on an old car that I basically let my 
>> 17 year old daughter use, I have plenty $ left over for bike stuff.
>>
>> Even if I worked (as I did until 2008; since then I've worked for myself) 
>> 15 miles diagonally across town (I commuted by bike at least 1/2 the time) 
>> saves enough, easily, for 3 real bikes.
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 10:13 AM 'jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>
>>> An Atlantis is a perfect candidate for a drop/upright easy switch-out 
>>> and provided yours has DT shifter bosses (and you're OK using down tube 
>>> shifters) then Shoji and Benz have it right. Seriously folks -- buy another 
>>> bike (?) where did all the deep pockets come from???
>>>
>>>
>>
>
> -- 
>
>
>
>
> **
>
>
>
>
>
> *Still 'round the corner there may waitA new road or a secret gate,And 
> though we pass them by today,Tomorrow we may come this wayAnd take the 
> hidden paths that runTowards the Moon or to the Sun.*
> --- J.R.R. Tolkien
> ---
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[RBW] Re: Quick cockpit swap (say that 10x fast)

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An Atlantis is a perfect candidate for a drop/upright easy switch-out and 
provided yours has DT shifter bosses (and you're OK using down tube 
shifters) then Shoji and Benz have it right. Seriously folks -- buy another 
bike (?) where did all the deep pockets come from???


On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 11:34:02 AM UTC-4, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 7:47:54 AM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote:
>>
>>
>> On my Hunqapillar, it was easy to unclip the canti-straddle cable. Set 
>> the brake cable lengths on multiple cockpits to-be at the same straddle 
>> heights, and there's little adjustment necessary. 
>>
>> Easiest would be to set up down-tube shifters. If that's not to your 
>> liking, then thumbies with hinged bands work. I used a right-side bar end, 
>> which meant that I had to undo it/redo it. Afterward, I got cable 
>> splitters, which worked great. However, it meant having doubles of bar 
>> ends, downtube cable stops, etc.
>>
>
> I did the same as Shoji with my Atlantis – downtube shifters, stem, 
> handlebar and brake levers shod with full-length brake cables terminated 
> with straddle cable hangers. Once set up, the swap is quick and fuss-free. 
> It is so easy that at one time, I had three cockpits for my Atlantis: 
> dropbar, Bosco, and mustache. The only thing to transfer over is the Cateye 
> computer.
>
> I have an S bike that had cable splitters. I didn't like them as 
> they were noisy over semi-rough terrain and somewhat of an eyesore (and you 
> need four).
>

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[RBW] Re: Gus, Susie, or Wolbis?

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Ah, but -- Bill Lindsay: Chev's did have two spellings of the same name on 
the same model ... so there's that.

RBW Owners Bunch 

On Friday, April 5, 2019 at 1:22:57 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> "I thought there were both h and l Clem’s." 
>
> Eventually. They started with "his and hers" names, then I think somebody 
> gave Grant some grief about it. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Riv MUSA Rain Pants, size M - $50 shipped.

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Great offer, Elton. I wore thin a small pair of these and just sayin' to 
*anyone* who's reading along here: I'll happily pay solid $$$ for a small 
pair in good condition that might just be growing hair in your bikey cloths 
drawer not being used ...


On Thursday, March 7, 2019 at 8:30:41 AM UTC-5, Elton Pope-Lance wrote:
>
> These are too warm for Florida, so they have to go!  Be dry, visible, and 
> warm!
>
> Worn only twice.  No tears or visible wear.  Some small grease spots on 
> left knee and right cuff.  Slightly soiled seat from Brooks B17. See photos.
>
>
>
> Please contact off list if interested.
>
> Elton Pope-Lance
> Vero Beach, FL
>
>
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Race Report from Norcal High School Mountain Bike Racing League

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(approve)

On Sunday, February 24, 2019 at 6:27:16 PM UTC-5, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
> This is not as off-topic as you may think.  Grant is deeply interested in 
> how my team is doing.  
>
> As many of you know, I'm an assistant coach, ride leader and team mechanic 
> for El Cerrito High School Mountain Bike Racing.  Many of you have donated 
> to our team one way or another.  We race in Norcal, Southern Division.  You 
> may remember that our league has been dominated for years by Salinas High 
> School.  They've won every D1 team competition at every league race for 6+ 
> years.  Last season, ECHS has something go wrong in every race and in every 
> race we came in 2nd place to Salinas.  We knew we could beat them, and in 
> California State Championships we had a perfect day and destroyed Salinas, 
> placing 2nd in the State of California behind Sir Francis Drake High School 
> in Marin County. 
>
> For 2019 we had everyone back and we expect to take League this year.  We 
> are certain we can beat Salinas; our only fear is that Berkeley might rise 
> up as well.  We've got 25 racers to Salinas ~35, and Berkeley's ~90 
> racers.  Yesterday was the first League Race and we did it.  We took the D1 
> team competition by a fair margin over Berkeley, with Salinas placing 
> third.  The day goes down as one of my proudest cycling accomplishments, 
> even though I didn't ride.  Interestingly, the team was pretty subdued 
> about it.  Everyone could have done better and everyone is pretty focused 
> to keep improving.  We didn't actually win any of the individual races, so 
> every rider has room to move up.  
>
> Other Riv content: our Gaucho mascot logo is wearing a green bandanna, so 
> I cleaned out Rivendell of their green bandannas and handed them out to the 
> racers to wear on the podium.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>

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[RBW] Re: SRAM Bar End Shifters, my favorite lever

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Good to know, man -- I might be heading back towards a bar end setup after 
winter and am perfectly happy indexing 10 sp drive trains these days.

On Thursday, November 29, 2018 at 6:29:37 PM UTC-5, Daniel D. wrote:
>
> I don't hear them mentioned on here much.  Maybe because they're 
> 10-speed..  But I really like the lever shape on the SRAM S-500, very comfy 
> and the color's good.  Didn't put them on my roadini because it was a 
> 9-speed build.
>
>
> 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New Wavie Bar Photos

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I like the "idea" of this bar and have been toying with pulling the trigger 
on a MAP/Ahearne. I did just set up a Billie to replace a Choco Norm on my 
daily ride ... but again, I keep thinking about those MAP's. I've tried 
other bars with that shape but haven't been pleased as they're usually too 
shallow in the return. I do like the return (or sweep) angles of Alba's, 
Choco's and the new Billie even though I find myself riding towards the 
front of those bars the majority of the time (it's really the super slow 
times and weird tight NYC traffic traversing where the upright full sweep 
does come in handy for me).  

So that said, using the incredibly helpful whatbars.com I've come to think 
that the new Velo Orange Curvy One bar looks possibly like an even a better 
fit for me than the MAP. And since RIV is working closely with whatbars.com 
now I suspect that they'll forward a drawing of the Wavie to them soon 
enough to make a comparison.

My main hesitation with the V/O bar is that 31.8 clamp! I mean, really ... 
well, that and the fact that all of these bars at 610 to 660 are getting 
pretty darn wide for a city boy -- and I used to think Alba's were wide for 
gawds sake.

On Wednesday, April 18, 2018 at 8:09:31 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>
>
> After hearing about the upcoming Wavie handlebars from Bill Lindsay in this 
> post 
> , I 
> took his suggestion to ask Riv if they would send some photos ahead of the 
> catalog arrival. Vince came through, and also mentioned that the bars are 
> 66 cm wide with a 25.4 mm diameter at the clamp, and they should arrive at 
> Rivendell next month in their Nitto shipment. So (with Vince's permission), 
> here they are. They look great!
>
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> Bob E
>
> Cranford, New Jersey
>
>

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[RBW] Re: PSA: 55cm Cheviot for sale in Sacramento area

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*Selling my Rivendell Cheviot mixte bike. It's in excellent condition; my 
wife used it a few times before she bought a Cheviot of her own (she needed 
a size smaller).*
Seems crystal clear to the point of maybe even too much information 
necessary -- to me, anyway ...

On Sunday, October 21, 2018 at 9:04:19 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> What does "my wife used it a few times before buying her own" mean? Did he 
> ride it, too, or no? Also, why is one tire red and why does he think a 
> 9-speed bike is 10? That's a weird ad. 

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Re: [RBW] Got a SP hub! Works good.

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I run an I-XQ and Son Deluxe Wide Body on my daily ride here in NYC. 
Considering how many riders use blinking lights in my town the second or 
two of flicker at spin up almost makes me feel like one of the regulars! 
And I say spin up because it never flickers at normal rolling speed, which, 
often isn't all that fast  as I thread my way through traffic and bike path 
congestion, etc it flickers a little at walking speed too, but that's 
not an issue for me either.

On Saturday, October 20, 2018 at 2:48:24 AM UTC-4, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> As I commuted home tonight I was wondering why in 2018 they can’t invent 
> dyno lights that don’t flicker.

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[RBW] Re: Nutmeg Nor'Easter

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I'm on the fence but hoping ... won't camp though

On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 12:09:37 PM UTC-4, Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
> Awesome!  Cool to see so many people make it out...
>
> I'll be camping, but Saturday only.  Friday I will visit friends in New 
> Haven and revel in a solo hotel stay 
>
> Alex Wirth
> Rochester, NY
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 18, 2018 at 12:01:39 PM UTC-4, chris feczko wrote:
>>
>> Also,
>>
>> Just wondering who all is camping here? I have a feeling there will be a 
>> fairly large turnout this year.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> Sunnyside, NY
>>
>> On Thursday, 18 October 2018 11:58:28 UTC-4, Daniel Jackson wrote:
>>>
>>> See you there! But my Riv isn’t making the trek. 
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Frankendini

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Sale proof ... I wish I'd thought of that (!)

On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 3:17:51 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> One benefit is it's sale proof. I have a tendency to sell bikes after not 
> too long, but who would buy this?? 

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[RBW] Re: Frankendini

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Properly hideous (!)

On Thursday, October 11, 2018 at 5:30:27 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> Here's an update/finished build on my Sparkly Orange Roadini, which 
> answers the question, "What if you intentionally oversized a dropbar bike 
> for flatbars?" I think Will @ Riv will like it, he's into putting the 
> "wrong" parts on a bike. 
>
> I had picked up an old Bianchi Project 5 with a Softride suspension stem, 
> but the bars were too low on that bike. Then it dawned me that the stem 
> would work just dandy on my Leo, so here ya go!
>
> Riser bar, XTR 9-speed shifter someone here sold me, Suntour dt for the 
> front, NOS Dia-Compe levers, Ergon grips, old Sakae cranks and BB from an 
> RB-T, NOS Shimano RX100 fd (from France!), NOS Deore LX rd (Japan!), 
> Mavic/105 wheels, 11-34 XT cassette, Jack Browns, MKS Touring pedals, 
> Woody's Chop Chort fenders with huge gaps that are different front and 
> back..Grant won't even be able to look at those fender lines!
>
> It's a fun bike with almost no standover, but here's an amusing thing I 
> discovered: When I first come to a stop and throw a leg over to hop off, 
> the suspension is slightly compressed..instant standover clearance! Check 
> it out. 
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Bba3J2TpJE8sEaBh9
>
> Joe Bernard
> Novato CA. 
>
>

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[RBW] Re: New SimWorks rack

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I see that now -- I didn't bother to click the link because I'd just to 
Crust in August and Matt didn't mention a new rack coming (he's sneaky like 
that, I guess). That one is interesting but wouldn't have worked for me 
anyway as I'm running brazed on CP rim brakes and they tend to block 
forward access to the center hole on the crown.

On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 9:57:57 AM UTC-4, David B wrote:

The rack that Keith linked to is a new rack that Crust is offering. Not the 
> one with lowrider attachments.
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 5:57:26 AM UTC-5, jeffrey kane wrote:
>>
>> I like that Crust Rack exactly because it doesn't have a diving board 
>> (and I like the platform size for the basket, too). The Crust works off a 
>> pretty smart "truss" or bracket that attaches to the center hole on a fork 
>> crown. That bracket is quite beefy and spreads the load outward similar to 
>> a fork with attachment points on top of the crown on either side of the 
>> head tube. I was able to run the bracket behind a set of Mafac Raids, even. 
>> It's a solid rack but not overly heavy -- the stainless steel struts are 
>> heavy gauge hollow tubing with nicely welded attachment points -- and the 
>> hardware is top notch. The platform has plenty of attachment points as well 
>> for lights and/or lowrider racks. And the 4 struts ought to make anyone 
>> paranoid about rack failure feel safe, too. I'm not totally crazy about the 
>> industrial / "erector set" aesthetic overall but it works with the build 
>> style of the particular bike I have it on now.
>>
>> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 12:47:59 AM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote:
>>>
>>> Huh.  Maybe this is old news, but i just saw this crust rack, yet 
>>> another "mini platform," for the first time.  Doesn't have the diving 
>>> board, but it looks like it would work with many canti-style riv forks.
>>>
>>> https://crustbikes.com/products/small-rack/
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: New SimWorks rack

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I like that Crust Rack exactly because it doesn't have a diving board (and 
I like the platform size for the basket, too). The Crust works off a pretty 
smart "truss" or bracket that attaches to the center hole on a fork crown. 
That bracket is quite beefy and spreads the load outward similar to a fork 
with attachment points on top of the crown on either side of the head tube. 
I was able to run the bracket behind a set of Mafac Raids, even. It's a 
solid rack but not overly heavy -- the stainless steel struts are heavy 
gauge hollow tubing with nicely welded attachment points -- and the 
hardware is top notch. The platform has plenty of attachment points as well 
for lights and/or lowrider racks. And the 4 struts ought to make anyone 
paranoid about rack failure feel safe, too. I'm not totally crazy about the 
industrial / "erector set" aesthetic overall but it works with the build 
style of the particular bike I have it on now.

On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 12:47:59 AM UTC-4, iamkeith wrote:
>
> Huh.  Maybe this is old news, but i just saw this crust rack, yet another 
> "mini platform," for the first time.  Doesn't have the diving board, but it 
> looks like it would work with many canti-style riv forks.
>
> https://crustbikes.com/products/small-rack/
>

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[RBW] Re: OT: Kids' bikes. Islabikes is closing.

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We went with a Fairdale Weekender Archer when my son hit 5' 1" or so -- the 
Adult small size was designed around 27.5 (650b) wheels and with it's 
sloping top tube was a perfect "grow into" size. We never did install racks 
or fenders but there were plenty of attachment points on the fork and seat 
stays as well as both drop outs. Of course, he grew 4" that year and 
another 3" the next and already it's too small(ish). He's also going on 14 
and pretty much only riding in the summer anymore ... sigh. I'm betting I 
can switch out the stem and maybe do a bar swap of some sort and he'll eek 
out another summer on it  but then he'll likely have outgrown my bikes 
as well since he's already at least 1/2" taller than me!


On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 1:07:24 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Well, Islabikes announced yesterday afternoon they are shutting the doors 
> to the US office in Portland. The bikes and gear are all discounted and I 
> was so excited to get my hands on the Beinn 27 for my 7th grader. Alas, 
> they are SOLD OUT. As of now, the UK headquarters does not and will not 
> ship to US. There are 3 companies Islabikes recommended: Woom, Cleary and 
> Prevelo. None have a nice commuter option like Islabikes did. I'm so, so 
> disappointed.
>
> Do any of you have a recommendation for a bike to fit a 12.5 year old? I 
> see that the major bike companies offer only adult sizes at this point. I 
> want something that will take a rack so we can do our school commute. He 
> currently rides a Specialized Hot Rock 24 incher that he's had since FIRST 
> GRADE. It's been a wonderful bike. My younger son rides a little Islabike 
> and needs to size up, so that Specialized is going to be his. Thanks in 
> advance for your help - and if you need a great kid bike at a discount, 
> maybe Islabikes will still have the size you need.
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[RBW] Re: Help with fenders

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Shoji's links are spot on -- I'd say grab a coffee (or a beer) and read 
through them. Getting your hands on the JP Weigel / BQ article would be 
very helpful as well. 

My 2 cents: I'd suggest a sharp awl as opposed to drilling. Alu fenders are 
super soft and a small round file will remove the burr from the awl easily 
enough.


On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 11:17:34 AM UTC-4, nemom...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> I just bought a set of SIMWORKS Honjo 62mm fenders for my Joe Appaloosa - 
> they did not come with any instructions and the parts tags were in 
> Japanese. While I have watched one (the only one I could find) video 
> regarding the installation which looks pretty extensive, I do have some 
> questions if someone has experience with these. Here goes . . .
>
> 1. Drilling the tiny holes for the hardware in aluminum - does that 
> require a special bit? and what would be the best approach to get a clean 
> drill hole result? 
> 2. I have tektro cantilever brakes CR720 on the bike and the brake cable 
> tip rubs on the fender when I put it over the wheel. I don't have much room 
> to cut shorter - and really am 
> new to the cantilever brake system even though i recently replaced the 
> cable hardware as it had rusted. I can lengthen the arch wire so that the 
> brake cable wire may go higher - not sure but wanted to ask before I tore 
> it apart again.
> 3. I'm also looking at the Paul brakes as a replacement but couldn't find 
> any substantive video on whether these would be ok with the fenders - the 
> cantilever touring brakes - any thoughts on this as well would be 
> appreciated.
>
> Guess that's it - hope this works in getting out there. Thanks, D
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Fil Processing

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Awesome -- just shoot me a DM when you're ready / jsk


On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 3:52:19 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Thanks!
>
> I’ll send you a roll soon.
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
> On Oct 1, 2018, at 12:16 PM, 'jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
> Eric:
>
> $8.00 per roll to process  plus $12.00 for full roll scans. We send scans 
> via WeTransfer link.
> Shipping is on you but we'll hold negatives for a bulk return every month 
> or two so you dopn't have to pay back and forth every time you send 
> something in.
> -20% discount for RBW list members (DM me to confirm)
>
> On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:03:54 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>>
>> Jeffrey:
>>
>> What would you charge to process and scan (no prints) a roll or color 
>> (c-41) or BW film? Would it be $8 + $13 (for “prints or CD”)? Can you 
>> upload the scans, or do you just put them on CD?
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
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[RBW] Re: Fil Processing

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Eric:

$8.00 per roll to process  plus $12.00 for full roll scans. We send scans 
via WeTransfer link.
Shipping is on you but we'll hold negatives for a bulk return every month 
or two so you dopn't have to pay back and forth every time you send 
something in.
-20% discount for RBW list members (DM me to confirm)

On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 2:03:54 PM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Jeffrey:
>
> What would you charge to process and scan (no prints) a roll or color 
> (c-41) or BW film? Would it be $8 + $13 (for “prints or CD”)? Can you 
> upload the scans, or do you just put them on CD?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
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[RBW] Re: Film Processing

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I run a lab in NYC:

LTI-Lightside (www.lti-lightside.com)

We run a lot of C-41 and B+W film, daily -- we no longer handle E-6, 
though. I've looked through the Darkroom.com site and give them a thumbs up 
for going after the mail-in market. I think the Riv guys use them and I'm 
guessing they do a good job -- and their prices are good, too. I'm not 
normally in the habit of praising my competitors (but we're really not in 
the same market) -- and I haven't used their services so can't actually say 
one way or the other but my industry savvy hunch is that they're probably a 
safe-bet and unless you're seeing results that you don't like and can 
attribute it to them. Again, I'd guess that they're probably one of the 
better film processing options out there at this time.

That said -- being a long time reader of this list (and film shooting bike 
nerd)) and knowing that many of you are into photography it's always nagged 
at the back of my mind that I wish I could offer you all services somehow. 
I'd be happy to create discount codes for RGB Owners Bunch readers any time 
(though we don't have those fancy pre-paid mailers like the darkroom.com). 
Please feel free to take a look through our site and notice that all our 
prices are published online, we offer multiple upload to print options and 
have a near ten year deep project archive link detailing our customers work 
in both fine-art and commercial & advertising categories ...

We also have an instagram account (@lti-lightside) and count none other 
than UltraRomance himself as our sole "influencer" ... ha.

Feel free to reach out to me personally if you're interested in anything -- 
and like I said, I'd be happy to offer up some discounts for like-minded 
bikers

jsk




My groups  

On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 11:04:18 AM UTC-4, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Following up on the recent discussion about film processing, I wonder if 
> anyone has advice on mail-in processing labs. I’ve used TheDarkroom.com 
> several 
> times, and they do a very good job processing and scanning my film. Usually 
> takes 6-7 days from putting the film in the mail to getting the scans. No 
> additional charge for black and white.
>
> Anybody using a different lab that you would recommend?
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com 
> @CampyOnlyguy (Twitter/Instagram)
>
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Re: [RBW] Off or on-topic? Cannabis oil

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Rivendell branded edibles ... now maybe that's something we could all get 
behind (!)

On Tuesday, September 11, 2018 at 4:49:57 PM UTC-4, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> sniffing* tubular glue*?  now that's something that's definitely on topic.
>
> On 09/11/2018 04:41 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I just want a cheap high. Surely that is not outside the group's remit?
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Steve Palincsar  > wrote:
>
>> Certainly, the question is in scope.  It's the oil that's not. 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 09/11/2018 04:10 PM, William Henderson wrote:
>>
>>> Surely it is within the domain of a Rivendell group to talk about what 
>>> is within the domain of a Rivendell group. How else is the community able 
>>> to define and enforce its rules?
>>>
>>> William
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 11, 2018, at 1:03 PM, Steve Palincsar >>> > wrote:

 Why?  Was it mentioned in a Blagh?  If not, I can't see any reason why 
 it would be.  This list is, after all, about Rivendell, bicycles and 
 bicycling, not about pain relief remedies.  It's only when Grant himself 
 mentions something in one of the Rivendell blogs that it falls under the 
 Rivendell aegis.


 On 09/11/2018 02:18 PM, William! wrote:
> To be clear this topic isn’t about cannabis oil it’s about whether or 
> not cannabis oil is on topic, which clearly it is
>
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[RBW] Re: The ups and downs of my Clem Smith Jr

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Hey Jim -- I don't know what RD came with the Clem but I can't imagine why 
you couldn't make it work for 9 speed just by working the limit screw 
(and/or B-Screw depending on how wide of a range you wanted). I'm an 
Index-Only guy myself so depending on budget I'd look to Shimano 9 for the 
shifter and any number of inexpensive cassette options to clear that part 
of the problem up.

On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 4:51:21 PM UTC-4, Jim Bronson wrote:
>
> The good news about my Clem is that I've been riding it a lot more since I 
> moved.  I now live on a busy 4 lane highway with no shoulders, so I was 
> having to either brave the traffic to get to a side street or trail, or put 
> the bike on the car, which I hate to do if I'm just going out for a fun 
> ride.  I found a gravel path behind my condo complex that goes about a 
> quarter mile to the next cross street to the highway.  From there I can 
> cross the highway and access the regional mixed terrain trail system.  
>
> The shortcut I found has got pretty rough big-ish rocks so I am loath to 
> ride my more roadish Rivendells with their relatively fragile Compass 
> tires.  The Clem though tackles this section with aplumb so I find myself 
> wheeling it out for rides more than my other bikes.  I also find the 
> traction just a little bit better on the pea gravel sections of the 
> regional trails, where the slick Compass tires might kick out a bit going 
> around a corner, the Clem and it's big Kendas track straight and true where 
> I point my wheels.  It just feels a little less squirrely, so to say.
>
> Which is a good segue into what I don't like.  I bought my 65 ClemH 
> complete and one of the things that it came with that I am not super 
> enamored of is the Bosco bars.  This may sound odd since they are 58cm wide 
> (I think) but they feel too narrow and too far back for me.  I feel like I 
> might hit them with my knees when I'm out riding.  I feel I would prefer a 
> bar with less intrusion into my midsection.  I'd also prefer something a 
> little less upright, which I think having a bar that's not so far into my 
> midsection will take care of itself.  It just doesn't feel dialed in the 
> way it is now.
>
> Looking around on Rivendell's website, I like the look of the Billie 
> bars.  I'm just not sure if 58 will be wide enough for my preference.  I'm 
> thinking maybe because they flare out a lot more and much less back than 
> the Boscos, that the 58 might be fine in this form factor.  Truth is my 
> drop bar bikes are only 48cm so having a bar not so far back like the 
> Billie would work I think
>
> Or there is the Aherne+MAP handlebar which is 61.5 cm wide in the wider 
> version.
> https://www.ahearnecycles.com/shop/ahearnemap-handlebar if you're not 
> familar.  I still have some store credit at Rivendell though so this route 
> would cost me more out of pocket.
>
> Anyone tried either of these bars on their Clem?
>
> The other thing I don't like is friction shifting.  Does Microshift or 
> SunRace make an indexed 8 speed thumbie?  I was hoping to re-use the thumb 
> pod and just get the shifter part of it, but I can only find 8 speed in 
> friction.  I could switch to Shimano 8 which would require a different 
> thumb pod or go 9 speed indexed T09 Microshift thumbies which would require 
> a 9 speed cassette and potentially a different derailer.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> -Jim
>
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[RBW] Re: 90 degree stem

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

That's a good tip -- I didn't realize what the Dynamic ll (2) was. 

SimWorks has a Nitto in silver or black. It's 25.4 (it's a beauty, too)

https://sim.works/collections/stems-simworks-by-nitto/products/gettin-hungry-stem-lettuce?variant=16532774595

Velo Orange has one with a 31.8 clamp and removable face plate.

https://velo-orange.com/collections/stems/products/quill-stem-with-removable-faceplate-31-8mm



On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 12:39:33 PM UTC-4, pb wrote:
>
> Justin, if you cruise the bay looking for Nitto Dynamic II or 2 you'll 
> find 90 degree stems.  Limited choice and standard (short) quills, e.g. 
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Nitto-Dynamic-2-Stem-22-2X120Mm-90-D-25-4Mm-Bar-/192451916066
>
> ~pb
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[RBW] WTB: Handbar -- Albatross, Choco Norm or Soma Oxford

['jeffrey kane' via RBW Owners Bunch]

(cross Post from internet-bob)

Hey all — I’m looking for an upright swept back 25.4 clamp bar that accepts 
bar end shifters. Either of the three named above would be great for me — 
it’s for a back-up build so I’m open and will consider alternate 
suggestions that fit the bill as well.

Many thanks / jsk (10024 area code)

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[RBW] FS: Nitto B302 North Road Bars

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Hey Eric — what’s the clamp size?

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[RBW] Re: Need 'dark' theme parts recommendations for MIT Atlantis

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SimWorks has a great selection of black parts -- much of it Nitto made

Stem: 
https://www.sim.works/products/gettin-hungry-stem-lettuce?variant=16532774595

Seatpost: 
https://www.sim.works/collections/others-simworks-by-nitto/products/beatnik-post?variant=16532777091

Fenders: https://www.sim.works/collections/fenders-simworks-by-honjo


On Sunday, August 12, 2018 at 1:58:18 PM UTC-4, Ash wrote:
>
> In the process of building MIT Atlantis with black color components.  Got 
> black Cliffhangers with XT black hubs built by Rich this week (it was 
> incredible experience watching his magic!).   I already had Altus RD and 
> Crankset both in black.  Thinking of going with Surly Open bar for the 
> black cockpit.
>
> I need recommendation for the following parts:
>
> * Stem (which would likely go well with Open Bars, preferably the one with 
> no visible welding marks)
> * Seatpost - I'm happy with the shape/set back of the stock seat post. 
>  Need similar one in black, preferably with 2 bolts
> * The rings that go above and below the head tube (don't know what they 
> are called and what's the size)
> * The nut that holds the fork in head tube (may I know its name and size)
> * Spacers (what's the size)
>
> Thank you!
>
> Ash
>

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