Re: [RBW] Re: Analog Cycles Moving Sale: Save that date + new details

[Analog Cycles Frederick, MD]

We have a bunch of stuff left... insane deals on wheel builds, with rims we
have in stock.  Brand new stuff from Ortlieb and Caradice and Compass for a
good deal... frames, forks, brakes, loads and loads of derailleurs, Axiom
panniers for way too cheap... Lots of Nitto bars... hubs... Come lighten
our moving load!

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On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 3:38 PM, MartyG  wrote:

> He had tons, and kept bringing things out. Maybe half a dozen NIB Riv
> frames, and a couple fully built. New and old parts galore. On the way home
> I kept thinking about why I didn't pick up this or that.
>
>
> On Friday, April 20, 2018 at 3:23:02 PM UTC-4, Tom Wyland wrote:
>>
>> Hopefully there will be some stuff left on Saturday. Thanks for the
>> report!
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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x11 Clem Smith Jr build by Analog: lots of pics and nerd details

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Doug, it’s customized with KA Engineering pulleys.  -James

On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 1:25 PM Doug H.  wrote:

> Cool! Where did you find the SRAM rear derailleur with the pinkish pulley
> or was it customized?
> Doug
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> On Thursday, April 19, 2018 at 1:32:03 AM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
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>> Here's my new Crust Lightning Bolt via Analog. The only Riv content -
>> besides that rivbike.com is where I discovered these fine folks - is the
>> bar bag, but I wanted to show it off here anyway cuz I'm a Riv guy!
>>
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/O2cHyydmZRpNIHos1
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Re: [RBW] 1x11 Sam Hillborne with a 50t rear cog

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Busch and Muller does.  They make a few variants on it.  Best mirrors
going, mostly aluminum construction.

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On Sat, Apr 7, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Can anyone tell me who makes the bar-end mirror on this Hillborne?
>
> Joe Bernard
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Re: [RBW] Analog Cycles Moving Sale: Deeper discounts on everything on the sale list

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Joe, they are a small and a medium.  Email me for more pics and pricing.

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On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Joe Bernard  wrote:

> Are the two Lightning Bolts pictured available? If so, sizes and price?
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> Thanks,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

[Analog Cycles Frederick, MD]

It's a shiftmate 6.  Got em here as a kit with everything you need:
https://www.analogcycles.com/product/turkey-vulture-supreme-cable-pull-modifer-kit/
 You need it for both friction and index shifting.  A shimano 9 speed
shifter pulls 2.5 mm of cable per shift, and a SRAM 10 speed derailleur
pulls 3.1mm.  You could friction shift thru a number of gears without the
mod, but not all of them.

You can use it with a 'normal' touring ratio and still reap the benefits of
a friction or indexed shifter and a clutch derailleur.

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On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 6:29 AM, Peter Trasko 
wrote:

> Maybe I missed it, but what cable pull adapter do you use? And is is also
> needed for friction set-ups, or just to enable indexing?
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 8:48:24 PM UTC+2, James / Analog Cycles wrote:
>>
>> New article up on the Analog Cycles
>>  
>> Journal.
>> It's about Turkey Vulture Supreme gearing, a refinement of our super wide
>> range gearing system. Roughly 23% lower gearing on the low end, and the
>> same ole high gearing as a standard touring bike.  We walk through the
>> what, why and how.  If you like really steep roads, or loose steep roads,
>> or riding your touring bike off road, this gearing is for you.  Email me
>> with questions:  Analogcycles at gmail dot com.
>>
>> https://www.analogcycles.com/2018/03/30/get-your-clutches-in
>> to-turkey-vulture-supreme-gearing/
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

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Hey Tim, they're Nitto RM-3 31.8 bars.  Best dirt drop going.

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On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 7:24 AM, Tim Bantham  wrote:

> James, What bars are you using on you Sam in the photo?
>
>
> On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 2:48:24 PM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles wrote:
>>
>> New article up on the Analog Cycles
>>  
>> Journal.
>> It's about Turkey Vulture Supreme gearing, a refinement of our super wide
>> range gearing system. Roughly 23% lower gearing on the low end, and the
>> same ole high gearing as a standard touring bike.  We walk through the
>> what, why and how.  If you like really steep roads, or loose steep roads,
>> or riding your touring bike off road, this gearing is for you.  Email me
>> with questions:  Analogcycles at gmail dot com.
>>
>> https://www.analogcycles.com/2018/03/30/get-your-clutches-in
>> to-turkey-vulture-supreme-gearing/
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

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On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Scott Blouke  wrote:

> I just want to add.
> A browse through some "common" touring bikes Fuji/LHT/Marrakesh/ REI ADV
> 1.1 all use a 48/36/26 crank and while a 24T is possible its not on them.
>
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> On Friday, March 30, 2018 at 1:45:37 PM UTC-7, Eric Daume wrote:
>>
>> Also, it's been a long time since mountain bikes had a 24t low on a
>> triple. Most 26ers had 22t, with a 34t low (16.8 gear inches). 29ers
>> started getting a 20t low, before 2x and 1x drivetrains took over.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:29 PM, John Hawrylak 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> James
>>>
>>> You claim of 23% lower gearing is not exactly true.  The difference is
>>> 15%, since a touring bike can easily have a 24T granny vs your article
>>> using a 26T granny for the touring bike and a 24T granny for TVS.  So the
>>> article is not a true comparison between a 26T granny/34T cog and your TVS
>>> of 24T / 40T.
>>>
>>> The 24/34 gives 19.3 gi.  The 15% difference to your TVS of 16.4 gi
>>> 924/40) is 1 gear shift lower.   I'm sure the 1 lower shift helps in the
>>> loose, steep stuff.
>>>
>>> Just pointing out the facts
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

[Analog Cycles Frederick, MD]

John,

If I compared a 24t granny and a 34t cog and claimed TVS was 23% lower than
that, that would be not true.  However, I compared* a typical touring
crankset *(Sugino XD) and rear cassette 11-34... same rear spread used by
surly, riv, etc.  There are also 11-36 cassettes out there, which would in
fact be 1 shift lower.  However, the 40t provides two shifts lower than a
34t cassette.  So even if the stock touring bike had a 24t up front, with a
40 out back you would have two lower gears to shift into.

700c x 35, 24t granny and 34t rear cog = 19.34   Sub in a 36t cog from
Shimano:  18.25.  Sub in a 40t from IRD or Sunrace:  16.35.  That is indeed
a 15% difference between a 24/34 and a 24/40, but where you got the idea
that was equivalent to one shift... I don't know.

Even if there was no difference in gearing, the TVS has a clutch, which is
*clutch* for riding off road.


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On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:29 PM, John Hawrylak 
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> James
>
> You claim of 23% lower gearing is not exactly true.  The difference is
> 15%, since a touring bike can easily have a 24T granny vs your article
> using a 26T granny for the touring bike and a 24T granny for TVS.  So the
> article is not a true comparison between a 26T granny/34T cog and your TVS
> of 24T / 40T.
>
> The 24/34 gives 19.3 gi.  The 15% difference to your TVS of 16.4 gi
> 924/40) is 1 gear shift lower.   I'm sure the 1 lower shift helps in the
> loose, steep stuff.
>
> Just pointing out the facts
>
> John Hawrylak
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Re: [RBW] Re: Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

[Analog Cycles Frederick, MD]

Hey Eric, point me in the direction of those 20t mtn cranks.  If they can
mount a 44t big ring and have 5 bolts I'm all about it.

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On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:45 PM, Eric Daume  wrote:

> Also, it's been a long time since mountain bikes had a 24t low on a
> triple. Most 26ers had 22t, with a 34t low (16.8 gear inches). 29ers
> started getting a 20t low, before 2x and 1x drivetrains took over.
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 4:29 PM, John Hawrylak 
> wrote:
>
>> James
>>
>> You claim of 23% lower gearing is not exactly true.  The difference is
>> 15%, since a touring bike can easily have a 24T granny vs your article
>> using a 26T granny for the touring bike and a 24T granny for TVS.  So the
>> article is not a true comparison between a 26T granny/34T cog and your TVS
>> of 24T / 40T.
>>
>> The 24/34 gives 19.3 gi.  The 15% difference to your TVS of 16.4 gi
>> 924/40) is 1 gear shift lower.   I'm sure the 1 lower shift helps in the
>> loose, steep stuff.
>>
>> Just pointing out the facts
>>
>> John Hawrylak
>> Woodstown NJ
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Re: [RBW] Turkey Vulture Supreme Gearing: New article about super low gearing on the Analog Journal

[Analog Cycles Frederick, MD]

Hey Patrick, what's the name of that guy who makes those?  I know white
industries used to make the limbo spider...

14-15 gear inches is about as low as I can go on loose terrain.  We really
like horrible fire roads and class 4 roads, plus riding technical
singletrack with a loaded bike.

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On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> That's an interesting view of gearing, and an interesting mix of
> components to get it. I personally would rather walk after a certain point
> (or just avoid the route), but that's my own preference.
>
> I recall, back about 1990, when your typical mtb gearing was 48/38/28 X
> 14-28 7 speed (26" low), installing a Mountain Tamer Quad eensy teensy
> granny inside of the 28; it was either a 16 or an 18 t splined cog that
> attached to a bolt-on (74 bcd) splined holder. Whether 16 or 18 t, I got 16
> or 17 gi, which I found too low to manage -- I'd fall over trying to get my
> feet into the straps, and of course, setup was very finicky.
>
> The man is still in business, and you can still get a 16 t "ring". Pair
> that with a 50 t cog and a 26" 50 mm wheel for 8.32 gi. Now sprint like
> Denis Demetriev or whoever is currently a World Champ at 200 rpm and you'd
> be going just a tiny hair under 5 mph! Keep up that spin!
>
> I'm kidding of course, and I think that the Turkey system is very
> interesting, and one I'd certainly try if I rode very steep inclines and
> had the skills (which I certainly do not) to keep my balance on them.
> Really, gearing has to be aligned with needs and skills, and I dislike very
> steep, technical stuff, and can't ride it anyway.
>
> I'm curious: For heavily loaded touring, what is the lowest gear you (all)
> find desirable?
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 12:48 PM, James / Analog Cycles <
> analogcyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> New article up on the Analog Cycles
>>  
>> Journal.
>> It's about Turkey Vulture Supreme gearing, a refinement of our super wide
>> range gearing system. Roughly 23% lower gearing on the low end, and the
>> same ole high gearing as a standard touring bike.  We walk through the
>> what, why and how.  If you like really steep roads, or loose steep roads,
>> or riding your touring bike off road, this gearing is for you.  Email me
>> with questions:  Analogcycles at gmail dot com.
>>
>> https://www.analogcycles.com/2018/03/30/get-your-clutches-in
>> to-turkey-vulture-supreme-gearing/
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: 1x11 Sam Hillborne with a 50t rear cog

[Analog Cycles Frederick, MD]

That's my next project.  Look for it on Bike Radar and the Radavist.

On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 2:18 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Any bigger and you wouldn't need the rim!
>
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2018 at 11:59 AM, James / Analog Cycles <
> analogcyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Charles, thanks!  It's a SRAM GX 11 speed SGS.
>>
>> On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 5:34:22 PM UTC-4, Charles Ku wrote:
>>>
>>> Nice setup! What derailleur do you use to support the 11-50? Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 15, 2018 at 12:00:46 PM UTC-7, James / Analog Cycles
>>> wrote:

 We just about finished up this Sam Hillborne for John S.  He'll use it
 primarily for commuting, but also for the occasional light tour.  It's got
 a bunch of Riv un-approved bits, but here at Analog we're pretty fond of
 tubeless tires, bigger than VP pedals, and 1x drivetrains.  Of course, not
 every bike goes out with that stuff!

 It's about to get a trouser guard for the outer chainring, as well as a
 Big Nitto rear rack.

 For gear inch nerd:  it's roughly 85 on the high side and 18.7 on the
 low side.  36t ring.


 


 


 


 








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Re: [RBW] 1x11 Sam Hillborne with a 50t rear cog

[Analog Cycles Frederick, MD]

Nope.  It's a standard FH body.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Analog Cycles Moving Sale

[Analog Cycles Frederick, MD]

Hi Bruce,

Here's a quickish blurb about the sale.  PDF is attached.  What we really
want to move are frames, ideally with at least partial builds attached to
them.  If you want a unique, high quality build at a good price, awesome.
We can help with that.  We do tubeless wheels, 1x set ups, really good
dynamo set ups, custom fitting, custom bar tape, ultra wide range gearing
solutions, etc.  Here's the rub:  If this sale is super successful, these
builds will take us sometime, so you have to be patient.  It'll always be
first come first built, as long as we get the parts in a timely fashion.
To that end, here's how pricing will work:


   - Get a frame from us: we'll give you a discount on it.


   - Get a frame and partial build, IE drivetrain and brakes, we'll give
   you a better discount on the frame, and a bit of a break on the drivetrain
   stuff.


   - Get a frame and wheels, no drivetrain, see above.


   - Get a frame and complete or most of a complete (IE you provide pedals
   or saddle that sort of thing), we'll get you a really good deal on the
   frame, and a better deal on the rest of the parts.


For parts:  If you get rims, and want us to build wheels, better deal on
rims, and so on.

Shipping:  We will charge you exactly what it costs us.  So if we need to
buy a box for your bike to go in, your price will be box+shipping, no
extras.  We ship bikes and wheels via bike flights and you can do full
insurance or none or partial, just let us know up front.

We have a big pile of weird vintage or semi vintage parts that will be at
the yardsale.  It's honestly a daunting pile, and I dont have the time to
inventory it all.  If you want to look at that stuff, you have to come
right to the yard sale.

Email me for pricing, or with questions.  I have ridden and repeatedly
built every style frame listed here, at least twice.  Most styles I have
built at least 10 of.  We know how to make these things fit, ride well, and
last.

Last thing:  Analog is moving to Vermont.  Our new shop is going to be off
the grid.  It will be focused just on custom builds, parts and bags, with a
few accessories.  Going forward, all decisions will be based around
lessening the shops environmental impact.  We appreciate your support.
Analog is just two people, trying to make bikes that are beautiful and that
will last.  We're about as grass roots as you can get.  We hope to prove
ourselves worthy of your time and investment.

Thank you!

James


On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 8:03 AM, Bruce Baker  wrote:

> please send
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 2:47 PM, James / Analog Cycles <
> analogcyc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey All, I have a full list of inventory finally worked up as a PDF.  If
>> you are interested in it, email me, and I'll get it out to you.  80+ items
>> on there.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> James
>>
>> On Sunday, March 11, 2018 at 1:04:43 PM UTC-4, James / Analog Cycles
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Gang,  Analog Cycles, formerly known as the bike half of Gravel &
>>> Grind, is moving from Frederick Maryland to East Poultney Vermont.  We
>>> having an inventory reduction sale before we move.  We have lots of frames
>>> and parts from Riv, Crust, Paul, White Industries, Brooks, Nitto, etc.  We
>>> also have a big stash of vintage or semi vintage parts, including a small
>>> horde stash of TA Cyclotourist cranks.  Additional, we have a bunch of
>>> purist water bottles, Velocity rims, WTB tires, some camping gear, vinyl
>>> records, good books, Pendleton shirts, vintage camera gear, and more stuff
>>> I can't recount right now.  We're moving to a small, off the grid shop
>>> space, and really, we can't fit all this stuff!
>>>
>>> The deal is simple:  everything is going to be a good price.  If you get
>>> a frame, and want to get wheels too (which we can build and ship post move)
>>> we'll get you an even better deal on the frame.  Wanna do a complete?  Even
>>> better deal.
>>>
>>> 4 days only.  Not gunna post prices, just know they'll be good.  If you
>>> want us to ship something, email to see if we have it, and we can get you
>>> the pricing, on those days only.  We have limited sizes and such, so if you
>>> want to secure something before the sale, it'll be full wack.  Email me
>>> with questions:  analogcyc...@gmail.com  -James
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Analog Cycles Moving Sale

[Analog Cycles Frederick, MD]

Hi Daniel,

We don't have any big lightning bolts in stock.  That said, if you are
interested in one, we can getcha one, and help with a build out on them.
They're rad bikes, and the craftsmanship is pretty on point!  I'm attaching
a blurb about our sale and the sale list pdf.  We're trying to make sure we
have work when we move, so if you are interested in a LB build, I'll work
with you on the pricing where I can. What we really want to move are
frames, ideally with at least partial builds attached to them.  If you want
a unique, high quality build at a good price, awesome.  We can help with
that.  We do tubeless wheels, 1x set ups, really good dynamo set ups,
custom fitting, custom bar tape, ultra wide range gearing solutions, etc.
Here's the rub:  If this sale is super successful, these builds will take
us sometime, so you have to be patient.  It'll always be first come first
built, as long as we get the parts in a timely fashion.  To that end,
here's how pricing will work:


   - Get a frame from us: we'll give you a discount on it.


   - Get a frame and partial build, IE drivetrain and brakes, we'll give
   you a better discount on the frame, and a bit of a break on the drivetrain
   stuff.


   - Get a frame and wheels, no drivetrain, see above.


   - Get a frame and complete or most of a complete (IE you provide pedals
   or saddle that sort of thing), we'll get you a really good deal on the
   frame, and a better deal on the rest of the parts.


For parts:  If you get rims, and want us to build wheels, better deal on
rims, and so on.

Shipping:  We will charge you exactly what it costs us.  So if we need to
buy a box for your bike to go in, your price will be box+shipping, no
extras.  We ship bikes and wheels via bike flights and you can do full
insurance or none or partial, just let us know up front.

We have a big pile of weird vintage or semi vintage parts that will be at
the yardsale.  It's honestly a daunting pile, and I dont have the time to
inventory it all.  If you want to look at that stuff, you have to come
right to the yard sale.

Email me for pricing, or with questions.  I have ridden and repeatedly
built every style frame listed here, at least twice.  Most styles I have
built at least 10 of.  We know how to make these things fit, ride well, and
last.

Last thing:  Analog is moving to Vermont.  Our new shop is going to be off
the grid.  It will be focused just on custom builds, parts and bags, with a
few accessories.  Going forward, all decisions will be based around
lessening the shops environmental impact.  We appreciate your support.
Analog is just two people, trying to make bikes that are beautiful and that
will last.  We're about as grass roots as you can get.  We hope to prove
ourselves worthy of your time and investment.

Thank you!

James

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 11:21 PM, Daniel Jackson <
daniel.seth.jack...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi James,
>
> I’d love a copy of your inventory. And - do you have any of the largest
> size Lightning Bolts?
>
> Thanks
> D.
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