[RBW] Re: FS: Sam Hillborne 51/52 (?)cm $1500

[Dave S]

Hello,  I'm in NJ and would like to buy this.  Maybe you're close enough to 
avoid shipping?  Let me know your zip.

Dave
732-232-6086

On Sunday, April 28, 2024 at 8:03:31 PM UTC-4 johnb wrote:

>
> Let’s drop this to $1500 +shipping. 
> On Wednesday, April 24, 2024 at 8:39:08 AM UTC-4 johnb wrote:
>
>> This is a report of this (
>> https://groups.google.com/g/rbw-owners-bunch/c/ecnmO2IgLLw). New price 
>> same bike. I am vague on the size since there was a spirited discussion in 
>> the original posting.  
>>
>> Measurement from center of BB to top of TT is 20". Center of BB to top of 
>> Seat Tube is 20.25". Same for TT. I apologize for the confusion. I bought 
>> the bike 3rd hand and never measured it. I just took the sellers word and 
>> quite honestly I could have just misremembered it.  I am 5'6"  with a 28" 
>> inseam. I have Compass 650Bx48 tires on the bike and I barely clear the TT.
>>
>> Build includes:
>>
>>- New Albion cranks 46/30
>>- Paul brake levers
>>- Tektro brakes
>>- Hand built (velocity/Velo Orange) wheels/Rene Herse 48 tires
>>- 9-speed cassette
>>- Acera derailleur 
>>- Cambium Special Edition C-17 with orange rivets
>>- Albatross handlebars 
>>- Paul thumbies 
>>
>> Will be professionally packed by bike shop. 
>>
>> Photos: https://share.icloud.com/photos/075HDkT5H9Rkyy65vqo4lel2w
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Rivendale Platypus Mermaid 55cm

[Dave S]

This was previously posted  for sale in Buffalo NY I believe.

On Thursday, April 11, 2024 at 1:31:08 AM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:

> @Mary -
>
> Where are you located ?
>
> Kim Hetzel. 
>
> On Wednesday, April 10, 2024 at 7:26:40 PM UTC-7 mary.f...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Philadelphia Bike Expo March 16 - 17

[Dave S]

My wife and I will be there.  Unsure if we’re coming Riv-equipped, but we 
usually leave Riv equipped!? 

Dave

On Monday, February 26, 2024 at 5:22:03 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> https://phillybikeexpo.com/
>
> Lots of things to do--the expo, rides, parties, coffee and meet ups.
>
> I'm going.  Who else?  I'm within walking distance to the expo (but will 
> be riding my Betty Foy there, because, well..., I should ride).  If anyone 
> needs any local assistance, please reach out via DM.  
>
> There is free bike valet parking by Neighborhood Bike works, and donations 
> accepted.  It's a great way to fund the community bike center.
>
> I hope to meet or see again lots of us happy Riv riders.
>
> Roberta
>

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[RBW] Re: Nitto R10

[Dave S]

https://tumbleweed.cc/collections/products/products/t-rack

They also have the adapter for the fender mount that was mentioned earlier,

On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 11:33:34 PM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Thanks all for your collective wisdom.  I looked at it again and don't 
> think it would work either.  And the R50 won't help much since I need help 
> on the bottom.  I'll try Steve's coroplast idea to see if that helps.  I 
> was trying to just have one big bag on this bike.  But when I carry stuff 
> it gets heavy and sags.  I may add the coroplast and out a front bag on or 
> just make sure I'm w/someone else w/more carrying capacity.  
>
> I never have a problem carrying stuff on my Betty.  I'm so used to having 
> 2 big bags and a rear rack.  And then the sky is the limit literally.  That 
> and the 50 lb weight limit of the rack or whatever it's supposed to be.  
> But I won't go far with that much weight anyway.
>
> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 3:18:12 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Here is a link to a Nitto R50 Andrews Bag Holder:
>>
>> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/18670-nitto-r50-andrews-bag-holder-rivendell-3797#attr=
>>
>> There is only one available LEFT ! ! ! 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 7:05:19 AM UTC-8 Brian Turner wrote:
>>
>>> Pam, unfortunately your combination of chunky seatpost binder, 
>>> old-school seatpin and sandwich clamp, and the springs on your saddle 
>>> aren't doing you any favors in regards to freeing up what already limited 
>>> space you have. I seriously doubt the clamp for the R10 will find space on 
>>> your post. And, as others have mentioned, the design of the R10 would 
>>> likely dip down too far to avoid interfering with your wheel. It's a shame 
>>> there are no other braze-ons along the length of your seat stays. One 
>>> option may be to find a small rack like a Nitto Mark's rack, and see if you 
>>> can find rack struts long enough to reach down to the rear dropouts, and 
>>> then either fashion a diving board to the brake bridge (where you have your 
>>> fender clip mounted), or use another set of rack struts with p-clamps 
>>> around your seat stays.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>> Lex KY 
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 9:56:20 AM UTC-5 Steve wrote:
>>>
 Pam, you might try a trick I've used to stiffen the bag enough to 
 prevent sagging. Get your hands on a sheet of corrugated plastic - the 
 same 
 stuff that is used for political campaign yard signs (they should soon be 
 readily available for no cost ; )   

 Cut the plastic sheet to fit the interior width of the bag and long 
 enough to cover the bottom and extend up onto the front wall of the bag. 
 The corrugations need to run across the width of the cut sheet so you can 
 fold it to curve up the front wall. The sheet should be sized to fit 
 slightly snug to prevent it shifting around inside the bag. It's a low 
 cost, light weight solution that repurposes  bit of plastic that is 
 otherwise destined for the land fill.

 Your Schwinn looks like a sweet little bike in its own right. 

 Steve in Asheville

 On Saturday, January 27, 2024 at 12:43:31 AM UTC-5 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Thinking about getting a R10 as a bag support - for a small Fab's 
> Chest.  This is on my back up Schwinn.  I set it up just like my Betty 
> Foy 
> in case I ever need any parts.  Concerns are that I have a 26.6 seatpost 
> and it says 26.8.  I guess I could get a shim.  Would it hold?  How much 
> is 
> the weight limit for the rack?  And I'm not sure if I have enough seat 
> post 
> to put the clamp.  Right now, I have the pec dec but if I put too much in 
> the bag, it starts to sag and I don't want it dragging on the tire.  



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[RBW] Re: Feeler: ISO extra-small 26er?

[Dave S]

I have a red 1993 XO-3 48cm kicking around here somewhere.  I'm in NJ.

On Thursday, January 11, 2024 at 12:46:08 PM UTC-5 Michael Morrissey wrote:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> I'm thinking about getting a new bike for my wife. Currently, she has a 
> Trek FX. She likes it a lot, but I can't help but think it doesn't fit her 
> right. She is 5 feet tall, yet the bike has 700x35 tires. The frame is 
> small but I think it's crazy to have an extra-small bike with the biggest 
> wheel size. Google "Trek FX 13 inch" and look at this ridiculously 
> proportioned bicycle. It looks like a penny-farthing.
>
> I think she would be much more comfortable on a steel 26" wheeled bike. I 
> especially like it because I already own 3 vintage 26" mountain bikes as 
> parts sources. She has expressed interest in getting a lighter bike, more 
> roadish, with drop bars. She really likes the color blue, so I want to get 
> her a blue bike. I spoke with a local custom builder, who loved the idea 
> and quoted me $1800 for a custom frame. 
>
> I've got an eBay notification going for the Surly Long Haul Trucker in 
> extra-small 42cm. This would check all my boxes. 
>
> I was wondering if anyone has experience (or ones they will get rid of 
> cheap) with the smallest of touring bikes: 
> Joe Appaloosa in 46cm
> Atlantis in 47cm?
> Surly Long Haul Trucker or Disc Trucker in 42cm
> Clem Smith / Clementine in 45cm 
> Buy another old Gary Fisher and add drop bars and call it a day? 
> Others???
>
> I'd even consider a 24" wheeled bike for her. Crust bikes made a Romanceur 
> in 24". Salsa makes a 24" gravel bike that looks really nice too.
>
> If anyone has one we could try, we are in NYC.
>
> Thanks! 
>
> Michael 
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Tall Stack, Short Reach Threadless Stem

[Dave S]

https://tinyurl.com/yff3arxv

Seems to be the same as the Analog Gnome Hopper.

On Friday, September 1, 2023 at 5:13:35 PM UTC-4 captaincon...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> I'm *finally *building my BMC Monstercross, and I think I need a tall 
> stack, short reach threadless stem with a removable faceplate and 31.8 
> clamp similar to what Riv adjacent brands like Crust or Analog offer, but I 
> am open to other suggestions since I exist in the quill ecosystem.  Thanks 
> in advance.

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[RBW] Re: FS- Large Hubbuhhubbuh tandem, $1800.

[Dave S]

Anyone have sizing input on these?  I have an 87 PBH which is usually 
around largish medium, mediumish large but im way out of the recommended 
range on the hubba tumblr.  

Dave
On Wednesday, November 30, 2022 at 10:54:46 AM UTC-5 Kainalu V. -Brooklyn 
NY wrote:

> Hey folks, 
> Economics and non-use force sale of a would be beloved bicycle.
> I rode it solo a bit, less than 30 miles, and did a couple very short 
> jaunts with a kiddo.
> It’s fairly swank, with a beautiful and expensive Velocity wheel set with 
> a SON dyno hub.
> I had big plans, but they relied too heavily upon the hope that others in 
> the family would fall in love with the thing. 
> I put clear helicopter tape on the top tube out back to facilitate feet 
> upon it while legs were growing, and routed the brake cable away from that 
> same section of top tube. Works like a charm. 
> Never got as far as hooking up a light or connecting the front shifter, 
> but I’ll include both a light and a front shifter in the sale. 
> Hoping for a local sale, can deliver in and around New York and the 
> surrounding areas, and I’m happy to $hip it.
> Photos- https://photos.app.goo.gl/tex6dqhe3pXZN83a7
> And I’ll be keeping my captain saddle
>
> Thanks much
> -Kai
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Garage Sale: Random bike stuff/clothing F/S

[Dave S]

Bummer,  thought i was pretty quick on those!  

On Monday, November 7, 2022 at 8:35:26 AM UTC-5 robert.har...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Updating the list!
>
> Clothes for Sale:
> - Simone Cafe du Cycliste XXL Blue/White stripe - 125 shipped (never warn)
>
> Random:
> - Swift Paloma Bag with the hardware - 45$ shipped (it's a little funky 
> tbh)
> - Road Runner Wedge Half Frame Bag -- 50$ shipped
> - Riv Shalacking kit -- 25 shipped (never used)
>
> Wheels/Tires:
> - Velocity A23 wheel w/ continental gatorskin/Shimano 105 hub release
> - 100 shipped
> - Compass Chinook Pass (standard) -- 50 shipped for both (medium wear)
> - WTB Cross Boss 700x35 -- 40 shipped for both (light wear)
>
> On Sun, Nov 6, 2022 at 7:06 PM Robert Gardner
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hello --
> >
> > Lots of cleaning going on and want to get rid of a ton of bike stuff
> > as move apartments. Lots of goodies here and if you want closer up
> > photos or more, just let me know. Happy to do so. Added some pictures
> > of most of the goods.
> >
> > Just lmk -- also local pickup in DC is possible! **Sorry about the 
> cross-post***
> >
> > Happy riding!
> >
> > - RGinDC
> >
> > Clothes for Sale:
> > - Large MUSA Blue Pants -- 50 shipped
> > - Large MUSA Khaki Pants -- 65 shipped (never worn)
> > - Large Riv Sweatshirt - 30 shipped (been used a few times)
> > - XL Campandgoslow -- 100 shipped (never warn)
> > - Simone Cafe du Cycliste XXL Blue/White stripe - 125 shipped (never 
> warn)
> >
> > Random:
> > - Swift Paloma Bag with the hardware - 45$ shipped (it's a little funky 
> tbh)
> > - Road Runner Wedge Half Frame Bag -- 50$ shipped
> > - Riv Shalacking kit -- 25 shipped (never used)
> >
> > Wheels/Tires:
> > - Velocity A23 wheel w/ continental gatorskin/Shimano 105 hub release
> > - 100 shipped
> > - Compass Chinook Pass (standard) -- 50 shipped for both (medium wear)
> > - WTB Cross Boss 700x35 -- 40 shipped for both (light wear)
> > .
>

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[RBW] Re: Garage Sale: Random bike stuff/clothing F/S

[Dave S]

PM'ed on the pants.

On Sunday, November 6, 2022 at 7:06:20 PM UTC-5 robert.har...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> Hello --
>
> Lots of cleaning going on and want to get rid of a ton of bike stuff
> as move apartments. Lots of goodies here and if you want closer up
> photos or more, just let me know. Happy to do so. Added some pictures
> of most of the goods.
>
> Just lmk -- also local pickup in DC is possible! **Sorry about the 
> cross-post***
>
> Happy riding!
>
> - RGinDC
>
> Clothes for Sale:
> - Large MUSA Blue Pants -- 50 shipped
> - Large MUSA Khaki Pants -- 65 shipped (never worn)
> - Large Riv Sweatshirt - 30 shipped (been used a few times)
> - XL Campandgoslow -- 100 shipped (never warn)
> - Simone Cafe du Cycliste XXL Blue/White stripe - 125 shipped (never warn)
>
> Random:
> - Swift Paloma Bag with the hardware - 45$ shipped (it's a little funky 
> tbh)
> - Road Runner Wedge Half Frame Bag -- 50$ shipped
> - Riv Shalacking kit -- 25 shipped (never used)
>
> Wheels/Tires:
> - Velocity A23 wheel w/ continental gatorskin/Shimano 105 hub release
> - 100 shipped
> - Compass Chinook Pass (standard) -- 50 shipped for both (medium wear)
> - WTB Cross Boss 700x35 -- 40 shipped for both (light wear)
> .
>

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[RBW] Re: Cheviot for trade/sale

[Dave S]

Where is local?

On Tuesday, July 19, 2022 at 7:02:37 AM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:

> No trade offers yet.  Anyone interested in a sale? I'll work up a spec 
> sheet and price.
> Local pick up a big bonus!
>
> Thanks,
> Alan
>
> On Sunday, July 17, 2022 at 1:36:31 PM UTC-4 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Someone requested pics about my previous post. If you need more specific 
>> info contact me please.
>> Thanks 
>> Alan
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Searching for bike akin to Quickbeam

[Dave S]

Cantilever?  I don't know what specific frame size a 92cm PBH is but if 
you're interested in an XL 80's touring bike that checks all the boxes, I'm 
in NJ.

Dave


On Sunday, June 12, 2022 at 9:46:23 AM UTC-4 James wrote:

> I have wanted a quick beam for a while now but the cost of a 3rd rivendell 
> is holding me back, so I'm looking for a similar frame.  Anyone have any 
> suggestions on a steel, lugged, horizontal dropout (front or rear facing), 
> fairly large wheel diameter bike?  One I could get for $500 max??  I have 
> my eyes on a Schinn LeTour III and the only thing causing me pause is tire 
> clearance (35mm) .  Thanks for any suggestions.  (I have a 92cm PBH for 
> anyone between NC and RI)

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[RBW] Re: WTB: 58cm Toyo or Waterford Atlantis

[Dave S]

Matt,

I sent you a private message but there's a chance it's gone to spam as 
nobody ever replied to my private messages!

Anyway, let me know if you do or don't receive it.

Dave


On Saturday, April 30, 2022 at 10:27:54 AM UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:

> Giving this another shot, in case someone might know of one for sale...
>
> Best regards,
> Matt in Oswego, IL
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Bags and Parts

[Dave S]

Saveur Sans Regular 


http://font2s.com/fonts/90268/saveur_sans_regular.html#.YkxGYijMKUk


On Monday, April 4, 2022 at 4:46:35 PM UTC-4 lkbr...@gmail.com wrote:

> Here is a bit of a delivery ride report, and a "thank you" note to those 
> who have made a purchase!
>
> I have ridden my Polyvalent to the post office a few times now, and I 
> really enjoy trying to pack things efficiently (buyers, please report on my 
> success) and carrying them on my bike. An Xtracycle Free Radical just 
> popped up on Craigslist here, and I would really like to give it a try, 
> both to observe its impact on riding and its carrying capacity. Do any of 
> you have experience with the Free Radical? How does it compare to something 
> like a front rack and a basket, or even something like a cargo fork? 
>
> I took this photo because I love this typeface that seems to appear on 
> various government buildings (what is the typeface called, where did it 
> originate?), but I was also surprised to see just how much darker the 
> sidewall of my rear tire has become over the past few months.
>
> Thanks again!
>
> Lukas
>
> [image: IMG_3863.jpg]
>
> On Sunday, April 3, 2022 at 1:34:31 PM UTC-6 Hopalong Cassidy wrote:
>
>> Hey Bunch, here is an updated listing! 
>>
>> Here are some photos 
>> , but please 
>> forgive my original link error and panicked decision to delete the original 
>> message. Please reach out with questions or offers. I hope you are doing 
>> well!
>>
>> *For Sale:*
>> —new Swift Industries Sugarloaf basket bag (natural XPAC X10), make an 
>> offer
>>
>> —new Bags by Bird Goldback Medium (charcoal waxed canvas), $220 shipped
>>
>> —new VO Grand Cru triple crankarms (175mm length, 110bcd, no chainrings), 
>> $90 shipped
>>
>> —like new 80mm Nitto Dirt Drop (26mm clamp), $45 shipped
>>
>> — VO decaleur, $30 shipped
>>
>> *Sold:*
>>
>> —80mm Nitto Technomic stem (26mm clamp), SOLD
>>
>> —Swift Industries Zeitgeist (olive XPAC VX21), SOLD
>>
>> —Swift Industries Ozette V2 (large--15 L, black XPAC VX21), SOLD
>>
>> Lukas
>> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 10:05:11 AM UTC-6 Hopalong Cassidy wrote:
>>
>>> Updated List
>>>
>>> For Sale:
>>> —used Swift Industries Zeitgeist (olive XPAC VX21), $175 shipped
>>>
>>> —new large Swift Industries Ozette V2, now called Merlin, (black XPAC 
>>> VX21), and VO decaleur (not installed), $225 shipped
>>>
>>> —new Swift Industries Sugarloaf basket bag (natural XPAC X10), make an 
>>> offer
>>>
>>> —new Bags by Bird Goldback Medium (charcoal waxed canvas), $220 shipped
>>>
>>> —new VO Grand Cru triple crankarm (175mm length, 110bcd, no chainrings), 
>>> $90 shipped
>>>
>>> —like new 80mm Nitto Dirt Drop (26mm clamp), $45 shipped
>>>
>>> —80mm Nitto Technomic stem (26mm clamp), SOLD
>>> Here are some photos 
>>> , please forgive 
>>> my original link error and panicked decision to delete the original 
>>> message. 
>>>
>>> Lukas
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 29, 2022 at 8:51:38 AM UTC-6 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
 Thanks, Eric.

 On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 5:55 PM 'Eric Norris' via RBW Owners Bunch <
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Try this:
>
> https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0XJtdOXm88TUBJ
>
> --Eric Norris
> campyo...@me.com
> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy 
>
> On Mar 28, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:
>
> I hoped to look at a few items, but get a "Safari can't find the 
> server" message. Perhaps correct the link?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Patrick Moore
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2022 at 5:27 PM Hopalong Cassidy  
> wrote:
>
>> Howdy! I have collected a bunch of bags and parts recently, but I 
>> haven’t used them like I expected.
>>
>> —used Swift Industries Zeitgeist (olive XPAC VX21), $175 shipped
>>
>> —new large Swift Industries Ozette V2, now called Merlin, (black XPAC 
>> VX21), and VO decaleur, $250 shipped
>>
>> —new Swift Industries Sugarloaf basket bag (natural XPAC X10), make 
>> an offer
>>
>> —new Bags by Bird Goldback Medium (charcoal waxed canvas), $220 
>> shipped
>>
>> —new VO Grand Cru triple crankarm (175mm length, 110bcd, no 
>> chainrings), $100 shipped
>>
>> —like new 80mm Nitto Technomic stem (26mm clamp), $45 shipped
>>
>> —like new 80mm Nitto Dirt Drop (26mm clamp), $45 shipped
>> Photos: https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B0XJtdOXm88TUBJ 
>> 
>>
>> I look forward to hearing from you with questions or offers! 
>>
>> Lukas
>>
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[RBW] Re: Choco bar / brake lever advice?

[Dave S]

I do own one of these but that specific picture was "borrowed" from a 
current eBay auction.

Dave


On Thursday, March 3, 2022 at 5:04:26 PM UTC-5 iamkeith wrote:

>
>>
>> This is the stock set up for the 1994 Schwinn Criss Cross.
>>
>>
> Fascinating.  Is that yours, or a picture from the web?  I wonder how that 
> worked.   I think I'm going to try it with Joes , with the mount being 
> forward  and shimmed as required to fit the bar, and will report back.
>

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[RBW] Re: BikeSnobNYC, 2022 Five Boro NYC Bike tour promo video on Platypus. Reviews of prior tours requested.

[Dave S]

Yes, absolutely do it... once.  It's a great way to experience the city 
that you'll always remember.  He's spot on regarding all the cool places 
you get to ride on with your bike that is soul-crushing in a car.  

That said, there are SO many people that depending on where you are in the 
pack, it's unrideable at times (mostly sharp turns and the approaches to 
bridges).  Getting to the start is a bit of a hassle.  There are special 
path trains and ferries.  I recommend parking/starting at the finish 
(Staten Island) and taking the ferry in the morning instead of dealing with 
it afterward.

I've recommended it to a few folks who then made me do it with them again 
and those times the PITA factor outweighed the magic that only exists the 
first time.

Dave

On Thursday, February 3, 2022 at 1:14:23 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> Here's a promotion that Bike Snob NYC did with Terry Barentsen.  Looks 
> like fun.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as_9Pj_AD3A
>
> Is it worth it?  Most reviews I've heard basically say it's fun one time, 
> but wouldn't do it again.  
>
> Roberta
>

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[RBW] Re: Feeler: Trade 58cm(ct) Riv All Rounder(or 61cm Toyo Atlantis) for 58cm Toyo Atlantis

[Dave S]

Hey Matt,

Can you shoot me a few pics of the allrounder?  I have a toyo atlantis that 
I might be persuaded to part with..

Dave


On Saturday, October 30, 2021 at 10:13:36 AM UTC-4 Matt Beecher wrote:

> I've been looking to buy a 58cm Toyo Atlantis for a little while and I am 
> debating the idea of trading what I assume to be a 58 orange All-Rounder 
> for it.  The 58cm measurement came from the center of the bb to the tip of 
> the lug.  It seems to be about 56 center to center on the seat tube. 
>
> Paint is in great shape, but one of the rear fender/rack eyelets has been 
> snapped off.  :(
>
> The 61cm Atlantis is also in pretty good condition, but the paint is not 
> quite as nice, but this one wasn't neutered. 
>
> I am not interested in selling either one.  They are only being sacrificed 
> for something I want more at the moment.  
>
> (If someone likes titanium, I also have a similar sized Litespeed 
> Appalachian or Airborne Carpe Diem bike I would trade for a frameset.)
>
> Best regards,
> Matt B 
> Oswego, IL
>

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Re: [RBW] Mid-80 steel frames that could be Roadini standins

[Dave S]

How about the early 80's Schwinn Super Sport SP?  They're not easy to find 
but it has some pretty decent clearances and is also fairly light(ish).

Dave in NJ

On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 1:09:36 PM UTC-4 Mike Godwin wrote:

> Hi Kurt
>
> I guess you can shrink the herd by sending me the smidge too large 
> Bottechia.  
>
> Mike SLO CA 
> On Monday, October 4, 2021 at 7:30:19 AM UTC-7 Paul Brodek wrote:
>
>> "Old is Good"
>> http://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2014/01/classic-tubes-columbus.html
>>
>> Paul Brodek
>> Hillsdale, NJ USA
>> On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:52 AM Benjamin Park  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Kurt, can you educate me as to the "rifling" in the steerer tube- what 
>>> is it, and is this characteristic of Columbus tubing? Also, what is "SP"?
>>>
>>> On Friday, October 1, 2021 at 10:33:12 PM UTC-4 Kurt Henry wrote:
>>>
 I'm very late to the game, as I can't seem to reply from my phone in 
 the current version of google groups.  I had to drag out my laptop.  

 I've attached a lousy picture of my Bottecchia from shortly before I 
 finished putting it together.  I bought it as a frame and fork from Dale 
 over on CR.  He thought it was a Giro d'Italia or Professional, though 
 possibly a different year than the catalog.  I can feel the rifling in the 
 steerer so will buy the Columbus tubing.  But it's a taller frame (for me) 
 at 60cm ctt and uses a 27.0 seatpost, so presumably some SP mixed in.  
 It's 
 a great ride, and an answer to a question I posed to the list a few years 
 ago about the rarity of Columbus tubed bikes with clearance for sizable 
 tires plus eyelets for fenders.  Yes, they exist!  I have Challenge Strada 
 Biancas (700X30) on it with plenty of room. I don't ride it that much, 
 though, as it's just a smidge big for me.  If someone runs across a way to 
 shrink frames, please feel free to call me.

 Kurt Henry
 Lancaster, PA



 On Monday, September 20, 2021 at 1:53:59 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Oh! Please post photos of your Bottechia.
>
> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 11:52 AM Patrick Moore  
> wrote:
>
>> Come to think of it, I temporarily resolved the too-small frame with 
>> a custom Salsa upjutter quill stem. Wonder where that stem went.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 11:51 AM Patrick Moore  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> A Bottechia Fellow Traveller! Yes, now that you mention it, my 1966 
>>> felt smooth, and I daresay this was a result of (1) the standard-gauge 
>>> tubing, (2) non-excessively-thick tube walls, and (3) the relatively 
>>> (relative to post-1980s-crit-geom frames) lax and loose geometry. I 
>>> road 
>>> it, IIRC, with Ritchey 700C X 28 or 30 tires, nothing special, and 
>>> still, 
>>> it felt smooth.
>>>
>>> Model-non-specific Columbus tubing, and I forget what the rear OL 
>>> was, but I built mine as a ss fixed, so the OL could have been anything 
>>> from 116 to 120.
>>>
>>> I build mine with the original moustache bar and used it as a beater 
>>> commuter, albeit as a very *nice* beater commuter. 
>>>
>>> But alas! it was a size or so too small -- 56 c-c st and tt, where I 
>>> should have a 60X56 c-c, so I sold it on.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 11:39 AM Benjamin Park  
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have that same Bottecchia (albeit I think mine is a bit newer, 
 probably 1972). I ride it all the time- it makes a great road bike! 
 Columbus tubing is so smooth. I put a front rack and it's my little 
 rando 
 bike. Actually does ok with the weight of a front bag.  I have some RH 
 32s 
 on it but agree it could take 35s.  116mm rear spacing is a bummer 
 though!

 On Thursday, September 16, 2021 at 3:08:48 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore 
 wrote:

> If you want road bike fit and handling with big tire clearance, 
> look for some of the old road racing frames from the 1970s and even 
> 1960s, 
> if you can find any. My former 1973 Motobecane Grand Record was very 
> light 
> (much lighter tubing than Rivendells, except perhaps the Roadeo and 
> the 
> Legolas; all 531) yet had clearance for 35s at least without fenders. 
> Ditto 
> for the 1966 Bottechia Campione del Mondo that I owned earlier: 
> easily room 
> for 35s at least and probably 37s. There's one on Ebay now; see 
> attached 
> photo. (300 Euros, but alas in Italy.)
>
> The early 1970s Libertas frame that is now hanging on the wall 
> waiting for a build is even lighter and has more clearance; my 
> brother said 
> he got 37s-38s in his; and mine -- 60 X 56 c-c -- weighs**5.9 lb** in 
> this 
> large size; that's frame and fork *and* 

[RBW] Re: FT/FS Rivendell All Rounder size 56 - for size 58 All Rounder

[Dave S]

PM'ed about a too big for me 59cm XO-1 hanging in my garage.  

On Sunday, August 1, 2021 at 9:49:02 PM UTC-4 Justin wrote:

> I know it's a really long shot but by all means y'all feel free to let me 
> know about it!
>
> I've recently come to understand that my recurring knee pain is a result 
> of always riding my saddle a bit too low, and raising the saddle meant 
> raising the stem/bars as well to keep things level. Now the size 56 feels 
> just too small sadly. I'm 6'1"
>
> The All Rounder is probably my favorite bike I've ever owned even though 
> it's a size too small for me, and I'd really love to have another in a size 
> that fits. As I understand it, the 58 All Rounder was the last size to keep 
> 26" wheels so a size 60 with 700cc wheels is not really what I'm looking 
> for even though it would fit. Also should point out that I am not looking 
> for a modern Rivendell with long chainstays and double toptube, been there 
> done that and it's not for me.
>
> Frame/fork or full bike with comparable parts. Really only "want" to trade 
> but... If someone is determined to buy it I guess they'll let me know. 
> Bonus points if someone happens to know of a dormant size 58 not of their 
> own but can facilitate it's purchase in exchange for the acquisition of my 
> 56! *Point is I'm hesitant to let the bike go without a bike to put in 
> it's place during this pandemic bike shortage.*
>
> Something of similar strengths but disc brake could pull me away from it 
> as well, Crust, Singular Peregrine, etc. 
>
> Phil Wood/Sun CR18 front wheel
> Bullseye (made in USA) rear
> Paul Neo Retro/Touring canti brakes
> Nitto Jaguar NJ-SP72 seat post
> Nitto Pearl stem, Mustache bars
> Suntour Superbe brake levers
> Suntour Cyclone/Deaore derailleurs and shifters
> Ritchey cranks
>
> 32" standover at bottom bracket
>
> It's in really great shape, if a bit dirty. More pics if there's interest.
>
> [image: 51351999495_e41cfd8f29_b[1].jpg]
> [image: 51352077389_867b9084f7_c[1].jpg]
> [image: 51351563428_9c63cda23d_c[1].jpg]
>  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Starter Set for the 84PBH Person... Bundle... It's All The Craze

[Dave S]

...and if someone wants to pedal that Hubba from Nashville to the jersey 
shore, I'll take it off your hands when you get here!

Dave

On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 6:48:21 PM UTC-4 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Man, what a haul.  If somebody picks up the bundle and wants to sell me 
> the 58cm Quickbeam, I'm willing to play along...
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, April 8, 2021 at 1:18:08 PM UTC-7 Karl wrote:
>
>> OK! So last year I began purging bikes and frames I had not ridden in the 
>> past year. At first, it was painful... then I began feeling even better 
>> about what I had kept and rode even more. So, this years effort:
>>
>> Must be picked up... I cannot ship all of this! I really want to sell it 
>> all in one swoop! I can take better photos etc, but prefer to just let it 
>> ride! I also sometimes miss reply here, so PM works best. 
>>
>> *Hubbuhubbuh- Small-* Complete Bike built by Rivendell. We were at WHQ a 
>> few years back and bought this on a whim! I can attest to my marriage 
>> surviving 3 rides! Good quality Rivendell stuff.
>>
>> *Rivendell Road Frame- 58cm*- fits 28's comfortably. Would make a great 
>> go-go bike!
>>
>> *Rivendell Quickbeam Frame- 58cm*- This was a backup frame for "What if 
>> something happens to my other one" but who am I kidding! 
>>
>> *Price: $3,000* picked up in Nashville or meet me close-ish I will 
>> even throw in the dust for free!
>>
>> What's that, you say you would like wheels for both frames?? How about a 
>> set of Phil Wood Cassette wheels for the 700 and a set of OG Quickbeam 
>> wheels for the frame for an *[image: IMG_1325.jpeg]*... and I will throw 
>> in a Baggins or Sackville bag. 
>>
>> Thanks for looking and as always... love all y'all!
>>
>> Karl 
>> Nashville, TN
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] What is the seller's safety with PayPal and other payments.

[Dave S]

I've been selling a lot of things online during the pandemic and the seller 
protections are very minimal across the board.  It seems like most of the 
payment services treat individuals like businesses who just have to accept 
some amount of loss due to damage, theft, etc.  I've had: 

   - issues with buyers claiming something didnt work, return it (my 
   shipping cost both ways) only to find it works perfectly upon its return.  
   - freight damage from fedex ground (purchased through shipbikes) that 
   resulted in weeks of runaround with claims.  Fedex actually picked the bike 
   up, brought it back to their facility and weighed it, verified it was 
   "light" and then returned it to me.  All the seller wanted was a credit for 
   missing parts that fell out of the box when it was destroyed.  He ended up 
   saying "forget it" and I gave a full refund.
   - Right now I'm dealing with a chainring that went missing (USPS) after 
   shipment.  USPS told us to wait because things are backed up. Now we're 
   past the USPS claim window, but not past the Paypal claim window.  Not sure 
   how this ends.

None of these seem to be malicious but all the payment systems definitely 
favor the buyer and most all of the risk is on the seller.

On Monday, March 8, 2021 at 2:29:26 PM UTC-5 Eric Daume wrote:

> PayPal has two modes, Friends & Family and Goods and Services. G charges 
> a fee to the seller, I think 3%, but offers some protection for both 
> parties. F doesn’t offer any protection. I’ve heard of cases where the 
> buyer paid in F and then retracted the payment after they got the part. 
>
> Eric
>
>
> On Monday, March 8, 2021, Roberta  wrote:
>
>> Riv content:  I'll be listing a Riv soon.  Lots of us sell bikes.
>>
>> What is the seller's safety in getting paid with a cashiers check, 
>> PayPal, Zelle, cash, other options?  I''ll be listing my complete bike here 
>> and on CL, so likely I'll be selling to a stranger.  I'd want to protect 
>> myself again someone taking my bike and then, somehow, I wouldn't get the 
>> funds.
>>
>> When I bought a bike from a list member, we met in person, I paid him 
>> with PayPal, he accepted the money and then I took the bike.
>>
>> Roberta
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell Sackville Stick

[Dave S]

The Stickpack was the backpack, I think.

On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 12:16:23 PM UTC-5 Jobbing Drummer wrote:

> Try a birch dowel from any hardware store.
>
> Use your eyes to judge a proper diameter. Cut it down to a suitable length 
> and drill a hole for screw/fastener if necessary.
> On Tuesday, February 23, 2021 at 1:09:32 AM UTC-5 Daniel Rooke wrote:
>
>> If anyone has one of these they'd like to sell I'd be happy to buy it.  I 
>> know they're pretty obscure but maybe someone has one stashed away.  Thanks.
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Kiley. Rear lihjtd

[Dave S]

https://crustbikes.com/collections/misc/products/blue-lug-koma-lights


On Monday, January 11, 2021 at 1:28:55 PM UTC-5 Joel S wrote:

> Does anyboby know where to get these?  Everyday is out, I bought from them 
> last year for 1 bike. I need for 2 motr bikes.  I am in USA.  Blue Lug has 
> the Koma but shipping makes it not affordable. 
>
> Thanks 
>
>
> https://everydaybicycles.ca/products/kiley-rear-usb-rechargeable-light?_pos=4&_sid=ec0eb585f&_ss=r
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Re: [RBW] Chainstay dimples and kickstand kisses

[Dave S]

Maybe too late but Surly makes a specific CNC'ed plate set to prevent this 
from happening.

https://surlybikes.com/parts/kickstand_plate

Probably slap those on there if you're going to reinstall the stand.

On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 1:57:40 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the input, Eric, I appreciate it. 
>
> My stand had the same pieces of rubber on the top of the stays (one was 
> cracked) but crunched the bottom!
>
> On Monday, December 28, 2020 at 12:36:21 PM UTC-5 campyo...@me.com wrote:
>
>> P.S. My Soma Saga came with a kickstand installed, and whoever built the 
>> bike (probably American Cyclery in SF) used thick rubber between the 
>> kickstand and the frame to prevent dimpling of the top of the chain stays 
>> (there’s a kickstand plate on the bottom).
>>
>>
>>
>> --Eric Norris
>> campyo...@me.com
>> Insta: @CampyOnlyGuy
>> YouTube: YouTube.com/CampyOnlyGuy  
>>
>> On Dec 28, 2020, at 8:27 AM, Eric Marth  wrote:
>>
>> Iecently removed my Pletscher bipod kickstand and noticed some mutilation 
>> to my chainstays. Pictured below is my LHT, the kickstand was installed by 
>> the previous owner. The sight brought to mind Grant's warning on the 
>> kickstand hardware listing: "This is one of those terribly useful 
>> aftermarket problem solvers that can save the day or wreck your frame, 
>> depending on how you attach it." 
>>
>> Just how bad is this? Cause for concern or shall I carry on? 
>>
>> Thanks for your collective wisdom. 
>>
>> 
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[RBW] Re: Is there a Riv-like three speed currently in production?

[Dave S]

https://handsomecycles.com/products/fredward-3s



On Monday, December 21, 2020 at 5:42:43 PM UTC-5 brettjc...@gmail.com wrote:

> A few years back I briefly had a three-speed Public done up in 
> Rivendellian style, with a thumb shifter, albatross bars with shellacked 
> tape, a nice silver porteur rack, etc. It was, as a bike shaped object, 
> fine. It was not a Rivendell and I sold it a short time later to buy a 
> Clem. 
>
> I find myself missing having a three speed in the stable. I've long 
> entertained thoughts of buying a Quickbeam, if one would ever come up for 
> sale in my tall guy size, and adding a three speed hub. The same might be 
> possible with the new Roaduno and I'll be keeping my eye on developments. 
>
> I wonder, though, if there's a nice purpose built three speed out there I 
> should be aware of but have missed. Any thoughts? 
>
> If anyone here has put together a three speed Riv, I'd love to see photos 
> or read insights? 
>
> Brett in PDX. 
>

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[RBW] Re: Musette Recommendations

[Dave S]

https://acornbags.com/products/musette-bag


On Friday, December 18, 2020 at 12:16:56 PM UTC-5 Michael Ullmer wrote:

> I was gifted, by a very kind soul, an old Riv Plain Musette made of 
> organic cotton, along with the 1996 Rivendell catalog that it's featured 
> in. Like the label implies, it's plain and simple. I'm planning to keep it 
> in my bike bag for those instances where I need to carry just a bit more 
> than the bag allows.
>
> I'm wondering if folks have recommendations for other musettes that work 
> well on a bike, but have a few more features (and more structure) than this 
> plain cotton one that I have. Even better, if you have one you'd like to 
> sell contact me off-list. The two that I've found so far that I like are 
> both out of stock (Riv's current Musette and one from Handy Bag).
>
> As an aside, in the last week I've found a new appreciation for my Riv 
> MUSA Pants when a pair of long johns are layered underneath. I tended not 
> to like the feel of cold nylon on my legs in the winter months, adding long 
> johns make these pants a dream.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Leah’s Rivendell Raspberry Platypus

[Dave S]

Sorry, I didnt mean that to be discouraging, it was meant as a lucky 
break!  Smaller parts are less of an issue but on big expanses (like rims 
and stems and seat posts) the unevenness of the fade is not cool.

I once bought a bike from a guy who moved to NJ from Arizona and it was 
clear which direction he stored the bike in.  The stem, seatpost, spacers, 
cranks, and handlebars were silver on side and black on the other!  

On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 11:30:05 AM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding 
Ding! wrote:

> I was happier before your post, Dave. 
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Dec 2, 2020, at 8:28 AM, Dave S  wrote:
>
> Last year I spoke with some of the folks at the Paul booth @ Philly Bike 
> Expo about some pink ano bits for my lilac BMC Road+ and they talked me out 
> of it.  They said that pink ano fades really quickly in comparison to other 
> colors.  I've heard the same about turquoise.  So much for my Miami Vice 
> themed build ;)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 10:01:38 AM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:
>
>> Not completely clear on the Velocity website, but is it really 
>> cumulative? I don't think they need to polish the rim before anodizing. I 
>> would check. If not, the cost would be $170, for either polished or ano, 
>> not $220.  
>> MSRP: $140 | +$30.00 Polished | + $30.00 Custom Anodized 
>> <https://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/quill-622>
>>  If you do have to add both charges, $200 is definitely pricey,  but 
>> worth it if it's worth it. Especially if you enjoy looking at your 
>> bicycles. Which I do. But maybe not quite that much.
>>
>> Lucky for me, I prefer the classic box profile with eyelets found on the 
>> CR-18 and the Rhyno Lite XL from Sun Ringle.  At less than $35 per rim 
>> <http://www.bikeman.com/RM8490.html> (about $60 if you get the anodized 
>> colors offered in the Rhyno Lite XL) 
>> <https://www.albes.com/products/sun-rhyno-lite-xl-29-rim?variant=32270581071946>
>>  
>> the price is right for me. They have a long, proven track record, and build 
>> up nice, too. The XLs are mostly in stock, but like many bike parts, the 
>> CR-18s are hard to find in stock anywhere.
>> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 1:51:02 PM UTC-5 David Person wrote:
>>
>>> I'm 'patiently' waiting for Velocity Quill rims to come back in stock so 
>>> I can build another pair of wheels for my Hillborne.  Some took up baking 
>>> or woodworking during the pandemic.  It learned wheelbuilding.  Will be 
>>> going with the standard black rims as the polished silver versions add 
>>> another $40 to the standard $140 price tag.  Custom anodizing adds another 
>>> $40 to that, so $220 per rim is quite a bit. 
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:49:26 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately I'm not Bill I'm just dumb-old Joe and you already know 
>>>> I'm entirely besotted with this bicycle and my approval is assumed, so we 
>>>> shall move on to works in progress. One thing you COULD do if there's a 
>>>> decent wheel builder in the pro bro mountain bike shop is buy those rose 
>>>> rims when they're available, ride your current ones for a year-or-so, then 
>>>> put the new ones on. Is that crazy? Not any crazier than most of the 
>>>> changes and upgrades we do around here, that's what *I* say! 
>>>>
>>>> Joe "yes, she wore out these rims on Killer Hill in a year, it's time 
>>>> for new ones" Bernard 
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:18:38 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I picked up my bike (again) from the shop with newly “Riv-versed” 
>>>>> (perfect term coined by Mark Roland) levers and shifters. We need one 
>>>>> more 
>>>>> adjustment to the left shifter (it’s not ergonomic; points to the ground, 
>>>>> making it impossible to thumb) and it’s good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Well...I’m anodizing a bunch of stuff from Analog again, so I suppose 
>>>>> it’s only done for NOW. When I forewent the rose rims that took most of 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> rose out of my build, so I need to add some back in and tie it in with 
>>>>> the 
>>>>> teal. I thought I would be done and riding off into the sunset and not 
>>>>> thinking on appearances anymore, but I’m finding it’s a process.
>>>>>
>>>>> The rack situation is a strange one. I barely have a fistful of seat 
>>>

Re: [RBW] Leah’s Rivendell Raspberry Platypus

[Dave S]

Last year I spoke with some of the folks at the Paul booth @ Philly Bike 
Expo about some pink ano bits for my lilac BMC Road+ and they talked me out 
of it.  They said that pink ano fades really quickly in comparison to other 
colors.  I've heard the same about turquoise.  So much for my Miami Vice 
themed build ;)




On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 at 10:01:38 AM UTC-5 Mark Roland wrote:

> Not completely clear on the Velocity website, but is it really cumulative? 
> I don't think they need to polish the rim before anodizing. I would check. 
> If not, the cost would be $170, for either polished or ano, not $220.  
> MSRP: $140 | +$30.00 Polished | + $30.00 Custom Anodized 
> 
>  If you do have to add both charges, $200 is definitely pricey,  but worth 
> it if it's worth it. Especially if you enjoy looking at your bicycles. 
> Which I do. But maybe not quite that much.
>
> Lucky for me, I prefer the classic box profile with eyelets found on the 
> CR-18 and the Rhyno Lite XL from Sun Ringle.  At less than $35 per rim 
>  (about $60 if you get the anodized 
> colors offered in the Rhyno Lite XL) 
> 
>  
> the price is right for me. They have a long, proven track record, and build 
> up nice, too. The XLs are mostly in stock, but like many bike parts, the 
> CR-18s are hard to find in stock anywhere.
> On Tuesday, December 1, 2020 at 1:51:02 PM UTC-5 David Person wrote:
>
>> I'm 'patiently' waiting for Velocity Quill rims to come back in stock so 
>> I can build another pair of wheels for my Hillborne.  Some took up baking 
>> or woodworking during the pandemic.  It learned wheelbuilding.  Will be 
>> going with the standard black rims as the polished silver versions add 
>> another $40 to the standard $140 price tag.  Custom anodizing adds another 
>> $40 to that, so $220 per rim is quite a bit. 
>>
>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:49:26 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately I'm not Bill I'm just dumb-old Joe and you already know 
>>> I'm entirely besotted with this bicycle and my approval is assumed, so we 
>>> shall move on to works in progress. One thing you COULD do if there's a 
>>> decent wheel builder in the pro bro mountain bike shop is buy those rose 
>>> rims when they're available, ride your current ones for a year-or-so, then 
>>> put the new ones on. Is that crazy? Not any crazier than most of the 
>>> changes and upgrades we do around here, that's what *I* say! 
>>>
>>> Joe "yes, she wore out these rims on Killer Hill in a year, it's time 
>>> for new ones" Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Monday, November 30, 2020 at 10:18:38 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 I picked up my bike (again) from the shop with newly “Riv-versed” 
 (perfect term coined by Mark Roland) levers and shifters. We need one more 
 adjustment to the left shifter (it’s not ergonomic; points to the ground, 
 making it impossible to thumb) and it’s good.

 Well...I’m anodizing a bunch of stuff from Analog again, so I suppose 
 it’s only done for NOW. When I forewent the rose rims that took most of 
 the 
 rose out of my build, so I need to add some back in and tie it in with the 
 teal. I thought I would be done and riding off into the sunset and not 
 thinking on appearances anymore, but I’m finding it’s a process.

 The rack situation is a strange one. I barely have a fistful of seat 
 post and will likely need the large Nitto Rear Rack and am crossing my 
 fingers it doesn’t come up too high. I don’t want to make my bike heavier, 
 but it’s unnerving not being able to carry anything. I like the front 
 without a rack; I’ve always wanted a bike set up that way,  it it was 
 impractical. I have and like the light over the fork. So, I’ll most likely 
 get the rear rack.

 Tonight I got to set up my bars how I wanted them. I had bought and 
 stowed a beautiful little Spurcycle bell and iPhone mount for this 
 raspberry bike. My old mirror for my Betty Foy was installed, and finally, 
 a string of Christmas lights. I don’t know that I’ll keep the Bananasax, I 
 just can’t seem to work with it. I’ll keep trying. Clearly, the bike is 
 not 
 finished, but it’s PROGRESS.

 Now, where is that Bill Lindsay guy - I want him to say APPROVE.
 Leah 

>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone interested in a Ride in NJ in October?

[Dave S]

Planning to be there, weather permitting.

On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 12:01:32 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:

> BTW, that 50% chance of rain is only for the morning.  The afternoon 
> should be beautiful!
>
>
> On Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 11:15:56 AM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>>
>> Our ride is just three days away and, I'm very excited.  I want to bring 
>> my A Home Hilsen, but it doesn't have fenders, so I'll decide on Saturday 
>> morning.  I'll bring my Joe Appaloosa if I feel a fendered bike would be 
>> better.  The weather forecast might just be perfect:
>>
>>   A few showers in the morning, then sunny in 
>> the afternoon. High near 60F. Winds NW at 10 to 20 mph. Chance of rain 50%.
>>
>> Look forward to seeing everyone.  Perhaps we can have a check in here, 
>> since schedules do change? 
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 9:57:38 PM UTC-4, Roberta wrote:
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the directions, which answers John's question.  The pictures 
>>> look lovely and I cannot wait for what looks like a wonderful route!  
>>>
>>> Roberta
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 8:04:27 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:

 Regarding directions: Plug this into your GPS: 

 2 Simon Lake Drive
 Atlantic Highlands, NJ 07716

 Regarding parking: Lot 1 might fill up sooner, but Lots 1 and 2 are 
 right next to each other, so it really doesn't matter; we'll see each 
 other. Even if you park on the street somewhere, just come down to the 
 trail.

 Regarding the trail surface: I haven't been on the HHT since 2018, but 
 I seem to remember that most of the trail is paved, and what isn't is a 
 very fine crushed stone surface -- in other words, any bike and any tire 
 will be fine on it. 

 Regarding the climb: They are approaches to a fairly high bridge, but 
 the grade really isn't bad at all.

 Regarding the ride from Sandy Hook to Long Branch: It's a nice (and 
 shorter) alterntive to going back to Matawan. As Dave pointed out, the 
 ride from Sandy Hook to Long Branch starts off alongside a large rock 
 seawall on a paved trail, but that's only for a couple of miles -- after 
 that, you're on Rt. 36 as you enter downtown Sea Bright. After Sea Bright, 
 there's a wide shoulder and you pass nice homes and some beach clubs. At 
 Long Branch Rt. 36 turns into a four-lane highway (Ocean Blvd), so I've 
 turned onto side streets from there to get to the train station. A 
 ride along Ocean Ave (not Blvd) and on the promenade at this time of year 
 (no crowds) would be very nice, as it's obviously right along the 
 ocean.

 To give you an idea of what some of the route is like, the photos in 
 the below link are from a ride where I took the train from Linden to 
 Aberdeen/Matawan, rode east along the HHT, turned right after the bridge 
 (bypassed Sandy Hook that time), rode down Rt. 36 and hit the beach at 
 Seven Presidents Oceanfront Park in Long Branch to go for a swim before 
 taking the train home:

 https://flic.kr/s/aHskF1WUCh

 And this one is of Sandy Hook itself:
 https://flic.kr/s/aHskmyzgvz

 Bob

>

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Dave S]

Re-radiusing the wavy fender to fit 700c is very easy.  Velo Orange even 
has a blog on how to do 
it: https://velo-orange.com/pages/re-radiusing-fenders

You'll have to gently squeeze the fender together so it ends up being a bit 
narrower. The wavy is pretty wide from the start so you'll probably be ok 
if your tire choice isn't super wide.




>
> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that finding 
> fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the ones I 
> like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my favorite 
> waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but alas, 650b 
> only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself further yet.
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone interested in a Ride in NJ in October?

[Dave S]

The SeaStreak dock is right there.  Someone mentioned earlier it's about 
$50 compared to $30 for the train but way more fun and convenient..  maybe 
safer too (there are outdoor seats)

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 7:29:17 PM UTC-4, John Hawrylak wrote:
>
> Bob
>
> 1st Ave and Hennessey appears to be be the Shore Casino with plenty of 
> parking and hopefully restrooms.  It seems like a good Start/Finish point.  
> This would be the 20/25M loop out to Sandy Hook
>
> Driving seems to be GSP to NJ36 near Matawan and then NJ36 to AH and 1st 
> Ave.  There don't appear to be direct roads if you stay on the GSP further 
> east and then come north to AH.   Is this correct or are there better 
> routes?
>
> Only problem would be the NYC folks coming by train to reach the Start.  
>  Would the HHT be the best way for them to come from Matawan or are there 
> better choices if they stay on the train past Matawan and get off at 
> another station??   They could go down to Long Branch for the return trip.
>
> John Hawrylak
> Woodstown NJ
>
> On Monday, September 28, 2020 at 12:18:20 PM UTC-4, Bob Ehrenbeck wrote:
>>
>> Starting from Atlantic Highlands (First Ave & Hennessey), it's about 4 
>> miles to the ocean (after passing through the town of Highlands and then 
>> crossing the Rt. 36 bridge, which has cycling/ped infrastructure). From the 
>> bridge, the basic loop to the end of Sandy Hook and back to the bridge is 
>> around 12 miles (of course, it's more if you decide to ride around and hit 
>> up all some interesting points up there). So, the trip from AH to SH and 
>> back to AH will be about 20-25 miles.
>>
>> Another option for those coming by train would be to continue south along 
>> the ocean after Sandy Hook and take Rt. 36/Ocean Ave for most of the way to 
>> pick up the return train at Long Branch (it's 7 miles from the Rt. 36 
>> bridge to the station). So that trip from Matawan to AH to SH to LB would 
>> be around 34 miles.
>>
>> Bob E
>> Cranford, NJ
>>
>>
>> Woodstown NJ


>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone interested in a Ride in NJ in October?

[Dave S]

 NYC peeps can pick up the henry hudson trail or the edgar felix bikepath 
almost directly from the train stations.  Both are somewhat scenic with 
almost no elevation. Sandy Hook is great too but I think the ferry shuts 
down at the end of sept.  That said, you can just about ride the HHT to 
Sandy Hook.

https://www.co.monmouth.nj.us/documents/130/henry_hudson_trail_july_2020_web.pdf

https://www.nps.gov/gate/planyourvisit/upload/MUP_Wayside-Map_rev5July2017.pdf

www.boblucky.com/Biking/NewJersey/Allaire.htm



Dave

On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 8:11:50 PM UTC-4 Brady Smith wrote:

> I’d be interested, though my weekends are hit or miss. I’m in Fort Lee but 
> could drive anywhere. 
>
> On Sunday, September 20, 2020 at 4:05:18 PM UTC-4 Roberta wrote:
>
>> It won't be as big or as exciting as our wonderful Eastern ride at Mohonk 
>> for Riv's 25th anniversary, but I did notice a large number of New Yorkers, 
>> especially from the boroughs.  I know there are a few of us from NJ, and 
>> I'm not that far, in Philadelphia.
>>
>> I'm trying to learn more routes and was thinking that perhaps someone 
>> (Bob E.???) could suggest something in NJ that we could meet at a NJ 
>> Transit stop, making it easier for the NY-ers.  If there are more New 
>> Yorkers than others, I'm willing to drive to you (as long as there's 
>> parking).  I really don't know any routes other than the ones around 
>> Philadelphia.
>>
>> I can do any Saturday or Sunday in October except for Oct 9 and 10. I'm 
>> older and less strong than most of you; I cannot do "Mohonk" hills. 
>>
>> Roberta
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Sellers, post your full emails

[Dave S]

Being that we can still see it (but not use it), I'm wondering if the reply 
to author is a setting that the moderator has to re-activate in the 
settings for the "new" groups.

I've reverted back to old for now and can still use it on desktop.

Dave



On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 10:37:27 PM UTC-4, dougP wrote:
>
> "Reply to author" is shown in gray scale.  Maybe it'll become functional 
> once again?
>
> dougP
>
> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 6:44:30 PM UTC-7 Ryan M. wrote:
>
>> Good call, Joe. It's true, I can't find a way to email a user when on the 
>> new google groups on the laptop. When using the iphone I can't even reply 
>> to a thread...the option doesn't even exist. 
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 8:08:57 PM UTC-5, Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>> Ok I'm not the moderator of this here joint but the FS posts are killing 
>>> me. Google Groups is different and weird and stupid now and most of us 
>>> can't send PMs to sellers. The trick is to put your email in the post 
>>> without @s and dots like such: joeremi62 gmail com. Otherwise your FS post 
>>> is going to be an endless thread of people saying they PMed you maybe not 
>>> sure. Good luck! 
>>
>>

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[RBW] FS 62 cm Custom Riv f/f by Joe Starck - ’98

[Dave S]

What size wheels/tires does this take?

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[RBW] Re: WTB tall, vintage 26" cantilever frameset + requesting Rat Trap Pass reviews

[Dave S]

Oh I might be interested in this.  PM incoming.

On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 at 4:44:26 PM UTC-4, Brian Campbell wrote:
>
> I have a 22” 1986, Schwinn Cimarron frame and fork. Fork is a lugged 
> unicrown and the frame is a mix of fillet brazing lugs an an ovalized top 
> tube. Rear is 130mm headset is 1”threaded.

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[RBW] Re: Bike Racks, non hitch recommendations.

[Dave S]

I bought the 3 bike with that specific idea (spacing out two bikes) but 
folding the rack up is much more difficult with the 2 upper supports vs the 
single.  The 2 bike version has three spliney parts with two smooth areas 
for folding the legs, the 3 bike only has two splines and one smooth 
section which makes it a bit of a puzzle to collapse and setup.   It sounds 
minor but I find it infuriating.  I fold mine up often and toss it in the 
hatch and the added frustration wasn't worth it.

On Wednesday, July 29, 2020 at 11:33:35 AM UTC-4, André P wrote:
>
> I definitely +1 the Saris bones although I'd say get the 3 bike rack 
> instead of the 2 as it's almost the same size and you can space your bikes 
> out a little more. Completely OT, I do not recommend the crosstrek, it's 
> not the best of an impreza+forester it's the worst of both. Bad handling + 
> small storage space (anyone want to buy a 2013?).
>
> On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 8:59:44 AM UTC-7, Jack K wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Likely not a good choice for Joel, since he's mentioned only needing 
>> occasional use, but I thought I'd mention a rack that appears to fill a 
>> unique niche in the marketplace and was the only cost effective solution I 
>> found for my rack needs ...  The Thule Raceway Platform PRO 2 is a bumper 
>> mount rack that uses trays to carry 2 bikes, like many hitch racks do; this 
>> thing:
>>
>> https://www.thule.com/en-us/bike-rack/trunk-bike-racks/thule-raceway-platform-pro-2-_-1685475
>>  
>>
>> I wanted a hitch mount rack, but the cheapest hitch I could find for my 
>> vehicle was $800+, then another $300+ for the rack, which doesn't seem like 
>> a prudent investment on a 15 year old car. Supporting the weight of a bike 
>> on it's wheels makes a lot more sense to me than creating a couple of point 
>> loads not far from the center of the bike's top tube, which most trunk 
>> mount racks do. In my case the bike I wanted to transport doesn't have a 
>> top tube, so trays were preferred, if not required. I'm not aware of 
>> another tray style rack that's also bumper mount, so I was pretty excited 
>> to find this model Thule. Not cheap, but I found mine for $300 brand new, 
>> in the box, so there are deals out there. 
>>
>> I also have a Saris Bones 2 rack that I've had for 15-ish years and still 
>> use to transport my tandem occasionally. People seem to love the Bones and 
>> it was state of the art 20 years ago, but if you compare the methods and 
>> materials it uses to secure the bicycle(s) to the rack and the rack to the 
>> car it's apparent that rack technology has continued to advance and racks 
>> like my Thule Raceway Pro Platform or other premium models are in a 
>> different league. They'll cost more than a Bones, even used, but after 
>> having my prized Bridgestone RB-1's top-tube damaged on a older "hang by 
>> the top-tube" rack a couple of years ago I'm willing to spend a bit for a 
>> rack that better protects my bike, my car and my nerves. 
>>
>> -Jack
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 6:34:41 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote:
>>>
>>> I used to use a Thule then I went roof rack.  Can’t do that now due to 
>>> lifting.  I have a sedan and my wife has a Crosstrek, would like a rack for 
>>> 2 bikes I can use on both.  What are you using and/or recommending?  
>>>
>>> Thanks. 
>>>
>>> Joel 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Weird handlebar idea

[Dave S]

Would these work?  

https://www.amazon.com/Origin8-33617-Drop-Ends/dp/B0013G6PB8



On Tuesday, July 28, 2020 at 11:48:51 AM UTC-4, Zack Medow wrote:
>
> Ok so for me the perfect road handlebar would allow me to run drop bar 
> break levers in the typical way for “endurance” riding, then with back 
> sweep to allow me to sit up and change my back angle. Basically I’m 
> visualizing this as an albastache bar but with the break levers vertical 
> instead of horizontal. Or like a dirt drop, but with all the hand positions 
> existing on the same plane. 
>
> I could see how you’d do this by bending the tubes down in the way you 
> typically would on a drop bar, and then sideways and back for the sit-up 
> position. Has anyone ever seen a bar like this? Is this a very stupid idea? 

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[RBW] Re: Bike Racks, non hitch recommendations.

[Dave S]

Saris Bones is my favorite.  We have the 2 and the 3.  The 2 with the 3 
legs is easier to use/install but I was frustrated with the middle leg 
(bone?) blocking my rear wiper so I go the 3 which has two outboard legs.  
Wiper still hits 'em so I just went back to the 2.

Dave

On Sunday, July 19, 2020 at 6:34:41 PM UTC-4, Joel Stern wrote:
>
> I used to use a Thule then I went roof rack.  Can’t do that now due to 
> lifting.  I have a sedan and my wife has a Crosstrek, would like a rack for 
> 2 bikes I can use on both.  What are you using and/or recommending?  
>
> Thanks. 
>
> Joel 
>

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[RBW] Re: small bike frame help & recommendations / (WTB)

[Dave S]

I might have something for you.  PM incoming.

Dave in NJ

On Wednesday, June 3, 2020 at 11:02:05 AM UTC-4, Patch T wrote:
>
> Hey Bunch,
>
> I rebuilt a 19"/48cm 1987 Trek 330 Elance for my partner with 650b wheels 
> and albatrosses. I thought it would fit but it's too big for her. In 
> retrospect, I actually just *wanted* the frame to fit because I liked it 
> so much, and thought I could make it work. It doesn't. She could use 
> another inch of standover room. I don't think going down one size in a 
> similar road/sport-touring frame would be enough -- not to mention hard to 
> find.
>
> I'm thinking of a mountain bike frame from the 90s for her instead, as 
> shorter standover heights are more common, and I have a good 26" wheelset 
> lying around with no use. Worried, however, about weight...
>
> I'd love any recommendations of specific models, tubing, etc to look for 
> as I hunt; or, if you have something that fits the bill. Just looking for a 
> frame + fork (headsets, BBs and seatposts welcome but not necessary)
> *Here are her requirements:*
>
>- 26" (or 650b converted) 
>- <74cm standover height (with 26x1.5-2.0 or 650x38-42b tires, give or 
>take)
>- not a mixte or step-through (her demand, not mine!)
>- not too heavy, we live up a couple flights of stairs with no 
>elevator - cannot be a tank!
>- rim brake, no disc
>- under $400 for frame+fork
>
> *Her Trek:*
> Size 19", has a 47.5cm ST and a 74cm SO (frame has a sloping top tube, so 
> it varies) with 650 x 38b tires. 
> *It's a great frameset with 531 tubing - will be putting it up for sale 
> once I get a replacement for her.*
>
> Let me know if I'm forgetting anything. Thanks for reading! 
>
> Patch
> BK/NY
>

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[RBW] Gravel & Dirt: New blog about equipment

[Dave S]

Thanks for sharing!  Not sure if this is always the case but, often, theres a 
noticeable difference between oem and retail tires.  The tread is usually 
identical but the construction is different.  I learned this by buying a bike 
with tires that are Folding/TC in the retail version and wire bead/tube 
required on the bike.  

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[RBW] PSA: Bridgestone Le BUBster 43L in NJ

[Dave S]

Then maybe you need the larger size, which I also have for sale :)

https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/d/allenhurst-bridgestone-bub-le-bubster/7117764662.html

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[RBW] PSA: Bridgestone Le BUBster 43L in NJ

[Dave S]

https://jerseyshore.craigslist.org/bik/d/allenhurst-bridgestone-bub-le-bubster/7117761177.html

It’s mine.  Well, it was to be wifey’s but I cant wrestle my Clementine back 
from her so here we are.  I have the matching BUB H listed as well.

I have no idea how to price these so Im starting at about a quarter of what I 
paid for my/her/our? Clem L.

I will ship for list members so let me know if you are one!

Dave

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[RBW] Re: Anyone have experience w this Quality Wheels Dynamo set?

[Dave S]

Buy 'em here instead:

https://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info=235_350_id=5269

Dave


On Friday, April 24, 2020 at 2:19:41 PM UTC-4, Michael Baquerizo wrote:
>
> I'm attempting to build something that will last me, without breaking the 
> bank entirely. The majority of the build is accounted for between parts bin 
> parts and things on another bike. 
>
> A dynamo wheel set is non negotiable but the price is a big consideration. 
> Does anyone have experience with this wheel ( I guess it's sold 
> individually so maybe with these wheels)
>
>
> https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=DChcSEwisvcSG1oHpAhUNGAwKHX6EAwsYABAEGgJxYg=www.google.com=CAESQOD25I0nAo7hpZOZk2Efe8kIRo2bZZcmD9rBz1DIJnza1FAEJdaU8Da66wYBglihAM-RP_slFbSaDo9Ssg37y10=AOD64_3Kj8nOAum-NsPctTCum_WV3qHyog=5==2ahUKEwjh6LqG1oHpAhXThHIEHdfvCfoQwg96BAgLEBs=
>
> and
>
>
> https://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L=DChcSEwi16sGU1oHpAhULn58KHfPuCDYYABAEGgJxYg=www.google.com=CAESQOD2wcBYNUu0-kvVlHSf6kLcyoqu-oJqKJsXPH2LKkDpj8bg5h6JHHX8LgbHLRXChNLMTBfwX79CQ8ewrBNdSqE=AOD64_1o1r4IpsLaXuJV-w4hABSQ8Tcf0A=5==2ahUKEwjHyLWU1oHpAhV1lnIEHanfCkMQwg96BAgIEB0=
>
> Will be mostly used for commuting and riding around NYC, I weigh about 160 
> so the 36h seems a bit extra, but they aren't available in 32h. 
>
> any thoughts?
>
>

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[RBW] WTB: Small Clem L, Cheviot, or other Riv Step-Thru or Mixte

[Dave S]

How about a 43L Bridgestone LeBubster?

Dave in NJ

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[RBW] FS: Nitto Mark's Rack M1

[Dave S]

Nice score!  I tried to buy that bike and the guy ghosted me.  Glad someone in 
the list got it!

Dave

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[RBW] Re: PSA Clem Smith Jr/Clememtine Sacramento Craigslist with interesting ad

[Dave S]

Looks like a 650b/52cm to me.  I would doubt this is stolen. I buy and sell 
a fair amount of used bikes and I try to avoid stolen stuff.  Although the 
seller is clueless, that doesn't mean it was acquired illegally. I deal 
with so many estate cleanout and storage auction guys that do a quick 
google search on the biggest word on the bike and list it.

Also, I don't think they'd post the bike's VIN and their license plate in 
the ad if they were a criminal.

Dave


On Thursday, March 26, 2020 at 8:27:04 AM UTC-4, Jeff B wrote:
>
> No relation to seller but here is a Clementine for sale north east of 
> Sacramento with an interesting ad. No mention of Rivendell and whoever made 
> it seemed to just google the downtime name. 
>
> Hoping that nothing nefarious is going on with the sale of it.
>
>
> https://sacramento.craigslist.org/bik/d/granite-bay-clementine-bike-unisex/7098939042.html
>

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[RBW] Are the FSA Duron Headsets on EBay Legit?

[Dave S]

I've got a fun project headed my way courtesy of Karl and I'm in need of a 
headset.  Riv seems sold out so I did some googling and there appears to be 
a lot of OEM FSA Duron headsets on eBay for around 20 bucks cheaper than a 
retail box one.  I've bought some OEM takeoff type parts in the past 
without issue but there are a few things that strike me as peculiar.

   1. What the heck bike are these somewhat nicer threaded headsets OEM on?
   2. Why do half of the listing include a threadless star nut and top cap?


Just curious if anyone else has bought one of these and if it was first 
quality.  Thanks!

Dave

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[RBW] Re: FS: 61 Rivendell Bleriot complete

[Dave S]

Messaged.  Thanks!

On Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 3:23:11 PM UTC-5, Michael Williams wrote:
> Hey group,  ive had this bike for several years at my brothers house for a 
> ride when I go visit but I just didn’t ride it much.  Seeing if there’s any 
> interest.  It’s got a pretty standard Riv build:
> Deore LX/ Velocity synergy wheelset
> Albatross bars
> VO stem/ seatpost
> Brooks saddle
> MKS pedals
> Silver shifters
> Sugino triple( I think, have to double check)
> Silver / Tektro big mouth brakes
> Deore LX rear/ I think 105 front deraillers
> Schwalbe Big Ben tires 650bx48
> 
> I’d really like to sell complete, as I have enough spare parts.  the only 
> love it might need is a new chain/ brake pads,  but it’s totally rideable as 
> is.
> 
> I gotta snap some photos of it,  but if you have any questions,  shoot me an 
> email.  I’m thinking $950 complete/ shipped.   Thanks.   -Mike

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[RBW] PSA: stop swap and save

[Dave S]

I’m going.  I have a small table with a friend.  Its my first time going but 
Ive heard good things.

Dave

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[RBW] PSA: Roscoe Bubbe

[Dave S]

Not mine but seems like a deal

https://fayar.craigslist.org/bik/d/fayetteville-dirt-road-daytripper/7065145511.html

Dave

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[RBW] Riv-ish bike shop in Ann Arbor?

[Dave S]

The Ann Arbor classic bike show is April 28th.  Ive never been but I hear its 
one of the largest bike swaps in the country.

www.ann-arbor-bicycleshow.com

Dave

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[RBW] Re: Thoughts on Space Behind Seat Tube on LWB Bikes

[Dave S]

On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 8:22:32 PM UTC-4, Collin A wrote:
>
> With Riv's full dedication on the longer wheel base design, there is now a 
> significant underutilized space between the seat-tube and the rear wheel 
> with all sorts of possibilities to jam stuff in there. Has anyone though of 
> clever items to stuff there and/or the means of attaching them? Riv has an 
> example on one of their demo Atlantis' and I overheard someone talking 
> about a bag that could be custom made to fit that space. Currently I just 
> have my trail pump strapped on there...
>
> Looking forward to hearing people's ideas!
>

The graphics are a bit silly but I just picked up a few of these Detours 
Coffee Bags at a local store.   I think they'd work well in that spot. 

http://www.detours.us/small-bags/the-coffee-bag.html


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[RBW] Re: Flat Bottom Backpack

[Dave S]

My EDC is a TOPO mini mountain that I'm really happy with.  They have a few 
flat bottom choices.   https://topodesigns.com

On Sunday, June 3, 2018 at 2:00:54 PM UTC-4, Dave Grossman wrote:
>
> I just sold my Green Guru so that I can fund a new bag for my wife.  She 
> needs a new multi-use bag to use as a diaper bag/daily bag/life bag.
>
> She has a few requirements, one of which is hard to find.  She has a 
> nicely sized Burton but it does not have a flat bottom.  She puts the bag 
> down often and needs it stand up.  Her old diaper bag did this but it was 
> diaper specific and she would like something more durable and "worldly" 
> this time.
>
> She also needs a few pockets, not a million, and water bottle/side 
> sleeves.  The flat bottom portion being the biggie.
>
> Suggestions, please!
>

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[RBW] Re: Lower price Atlantis!

[Dave S]

Assuming this is the bike, you can see the cable guides in the photo 
Jonathan referenced above.




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[RBW] Re: Flickstand alternatives? How to keep the front stable while not moving?

[Dave S]

Dual leg kickstand.  The bike will balance on three point depending on 
rear/front load.  Also the bike is perpendicular to the ground compare to a 
traditional one leg leaning stand so it tends to be less wobbly.

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[RBW] FS/T: 59 AHH

[Dave S]

Complete Bike as seen here: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff1.htm

Would trade for 57cm AHH or Roadeo Frame or bike. Serious buyers please PM. 

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[RBW] Bombadil Auction

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Check the Rivendell News: http://www.rivbike.com

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[RBW] Re: for the bunch only please

[Dave S.]

Thanks everyone. I got 59 corrections. Many repeats, but still a big
help.
We'll have the official version up soon...

On Jan 16, 5:19 pm, Rick Smith rick_sm...@sulfurstar.com wrote:
 Will the print version of the latest Reader be available online? In a
 recent post at rivbike.com, it seemed like there was a pre-order
 period where it was available for $5... which I missed.

 Rick 'will buy print version even though he already has printed and
 read half of the PDF which is awesome as usual' Smith

 On Jan 15, 8:06 pm, Esteban kemm...@gmail.com wrote:

  This is great. Haven't found any problems yet, but I'll give it a good
  going over this weekend.

  Let's all make sure to buy a print copy when it comes out to support
  the costs of RR!

  Esteban
  San Diego, Calif.

  On Jan 15, 4:29 pm, manueljohnacosta manueljohnaco...@hotmail.com
  wrote:

   Funny. That Grant used to work at REI. I just met a guy from the SF
   REI who says he used to work with Grant in the Berkeley REI,
   conversation started on how he liked my Bleriot. Funny small the world
   is.
   -Manny
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[RBW] Re: for the bunch only please

[Dave S.]

might clog up the printer... it's 70 pages

On Jan 15, 3:48 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks for this! I've been waiting what, 18 months for something bicycle to
 read. I like BQ, but the RR is still my favorite.

 Patrick gonna print it out and read it in bed tonight after work Moore



 On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Dave S. dave...@gmail.com wrote:
  Sneak Preview: RR42 beta

  Hello All,

  Dave from Riv here. Rivendell Reader 42 is 99% done. Usually we post
  things to the NEWS section and immediately get emails with typos. So
  this time, we're unveiling it to the bunch first, hoping that you all
  might catch some typos before it officially goes live on the site
  and off to the printer.

  So here it is. Please, please, please don't spread it around the net
  just yet. Just print it out and enjoy it over the weekend. We'll post
  the typo-corrected version on Monday. We don't want folks linking to
  it just to have the link fail when we post corrections.

  If you find a typo, please send me (d...@rivbike.com) an email with
  all the info in the subject line, formatted thusly:
  SUBJECT: Typos: pg. xx par. xx - correction

  So your subject line should be something like, Typos: pg. 03 par. 09
  - Rivendale should be Rivendell
  I won't be reading the email bodies or responding, so thank you in
  advance.
  Make sense?

  There's no prize or incentive, just the satisfaction of being the
  first to read it.

  Hope you like it.

 http://www.rivbike.com/assets/payloads/202/original_RR42beta_high150.pdf

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[RBW] Re: an imitation or just a coincidence?

[Dave S.]

Well put everyone. Violet Crown was new to me.
Made to order in Texas for only $1200 seems like a great deal.
Lugged steel, smart clearance, high bars, human name.
Can't complain 'bout that.





On Nov 3, 8:54 am, GeorgeS chobur...@gmail.com wrote:
 Unless one grew up in Texas where Texas History is (or was) a required
 subject in all schools at each level (elementary, junior high and high
 school) it is hard to imagine the reverence with which Sam Houston is
 held.  There is a certain Father Mao aspect to it.  I am sure that
 many Texans are upset about attaching Houston's name to a commercial
 product.  Like naming a new hybrid vehicle after George Washington.
 GeorgeS

 On Nov 3, 9:19 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

  now, if you're talking about the rivendell aesthetic, that's a
  separate matter.  but, tweed and twine and shellac don't make the
  bike.  there are more important details to consider, and that's what
  separates rivendell from everyone else. 

  Well put Patrick. That was more the point I was trying to make.

  On Nov 3, 6:35 am, Patrick in VT psh...@drm.com wrote:

   On Nov 2, 10:36 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote:

Hmmm, I'm not sure what to think. Funny how so many custom builders
are trying to make bikes like the ones Rivendell has been producing
for years.

   actually, it makes perfect sense.  as far as I know, there aren't a
   whole lot of lugged steel production frames available.  and what if
   someone wanted a roadeo type rig before riv got around to offer such
   a frameset?  or wants a different fit or geometry than rivendell
   offers?  custom is just about the only alternative.  and in that case,
   custom builders are making bikes that are intentionally un-rivish.

   in any event, lots of framebuilders use lugged steel construction
   because they share the same philosophy as Rivendell when it comes to
   building a bike - that's not imitation.

   now, if you're talking about the rivendell aesthetic, that's a
   separate matter.  but, tweed and twine and shellac don't make the
   bike.  there are more important details to consider, and that's what
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