[RBW] Re: 5 Boro Bike Tour (was NYC Riv Ride?)

[Joe in the Pay Area]

Andy, Enjoy The Ride !!! You're about to experience one of the greatest 
cities in the world by pedaling it !!! Forget all the blather about this 
tire and that chainring and just be a kid again, on a bike, with lots of 
other bikes, and enjoy it. Go. Out. For. A. Ride. ("Mom? I'm goin' out on 
my bike.") Maybe even put a baseball card in your spokes to make some 
noise. Maybe some streamers too?

I have ridden it many, many times, going way back when it was orange vests 
from AYH, the ride's founder and sole sponsor (until some bank had to get 
involved). ("AYH" = American Youth Hostels,  a great bike store in its own 
right, and a go-to outdoor outfitter. R.I.P. AYH.) You'll be on roads that 
normally won't allow you to enjoy the views you'll now be Inside Of! The 
only time you can stop On Top Of The Verrazano Narrows Bridge is if a car 
accident has stopped traffic, so how lucky are you that the span has been 
closed Just For You?!

It's a *ride*, Andy. There'll be skinny tire flyers there and also bikes 
that have last seen daylight during the Truman Administration. But you, 
Andy, you'll be exactly what you are, a tourist, a Cycling Tourist, with a 
familiar bike under you and thousands of fellow pedalers surrounding you, 
so sit back, find a cadence that allows you to see it all, and Enjoy The 
Ride, kid.

(And if you need a baseball card and a clothespin, lemme know. Alas...I'm 
all out of streamers.)

(And do your homework. If you spend a week in da Big Apple and don't eat 
pizza at least 5 times, you've missed out.)

On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 2:17:42 AM UTC-8 ascpgh wrote:

> My wife and I did it a number of years ago (still 30,000 riders). It is an 
> amazing roll through a city you never get to see in this way, even if 
> you've ridden there before because you are able to look around which I 
> couldn't when riding around NYC when I was there by myself with a bike. 
>
> Our approach was to park on Staten Island, take the ferry over  for the 
> start. We were in the back half of the start after securing the rental bike 
> my wife opted for. Rest and refreshment stops were packed with our 29,998 
> friends each time we stopped. The Gowanus Expressway to Verrazano Park and 
> the bridge was hot and both of use were out of water. By the time we got 
> off the elevated highway and saw a food truck selling Gatorade we were 
> pretty needy and the baseball stadium price for the 12 oz bottles was worth 
> every penny. 
>
> The Verrazano Narrows Bridge on a bike is worth any hardship you endure on 
> this ride. There will be refreshments, entertainment and food at the Staten 
> Island afterparty. Many riders will rest, recharge and socialize before 
> taking the ferries back over to Manhattan. I have no recs for whether to 
> enjoy the music food and community or get on the ferr quickly. We just rode 
> to the rent bike return site, loaded my bike in the car and faced 
> essentially no traffic as we left the island towards Newark, NJ and home. 
>
> Fun ride, take pictures, report back.
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> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Monday, January 8, 2024 at 10:05:33 PM UTC-5 velomann wrote:
>
>> The 5 Boro Bike Tour in NYC has been on my bucket list for years, and I 
>> decided this year is the year. First Sunday of May (5/5 this year).
>> https://www.bike.nyc/events/td-five-boro-bike-tour/
>> Registration opened this week, and I signed up.
>> I've got my lodging and flight booked as well.
>>
>> This will be my first trip to NYC since I was a kid, 50 years ago. I 
>> won't be bringing my Riv (Bringing the Ritchey Breakaway), but I'll be 
>> there for a week, staying in midtown not far from ride start. 
>> I'd love to meet up with others while I'm there, get recommendations on 
>> where to ride, cheap food, coffee, bike shops, etc.
>>
>> Anyone else here doing the ride?
>>
>> Mike M
>>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Compliments

[Joe in the Pay Area]

Daily, either the orange Atlantis or the orange All-Rounder get a 
"beautiful bike" yelled to it.

On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 7:11:46 PM UTC-8 WilletM wrote:

>
> This wasn't a Riv compliment, as it happened thirty years ago when my 
> acquisition budget was somewhat smaller than it is currently.  But it has 
> stuck with me and made me smile for all the years since.
>
> Riding down the road in Lincoln, NE, on my recently acquired Eisentraut 
> custom road bike that had been ordered (not by me) with a swirly pink paint 
> job that was right out of this year's Barbie movie starring Margot Robbie, 
> I heard a voice shout out "nice bike!" from the direction of a corner 
> gas station/convenience store.  Thinking that it must be a true aficionado 
> who knew of Albert's work and appreciated the thinly-filed lugs and Excell 
> tubing, I looked back over my shoulder eagerly to see if it might be 
> someone I knew from a local bike shop.  And I saw, standing there with a 
> big smile on her face, an 8- or 9-year-old girl who apparently just REALLY 
> liked that shade of pink.
>
> Willet M.
>
> On Thursday, November 16, 2023 at 3:32:29 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> I often get compliments on my best Rivendells and copies; I say "best" 
>> because these are the ones that I build with the nicest -- shiny silver -- 
>> parts and keep the cleanest. I got more compliments for my customs than for 
>> my Sam or Ram.
>>
>> Someone said that compliments make him uncomfortable. They don't make me 
>> uncomfortable, but I admit that, when I'm in a hurry, as when in a store, I 
>> am sometimes not eager for extended conversations, but I am always pleased 
>> to hear compliments. People usually assume that the bikes are old and I 
>> also admit to a bit of glee when I answer the question, "So, how old is 
>> it?" by saying "25 years next year; it was delivered in April 1999" or 
>> "Summer 2020."
>>
>> OTOH, a few years ago I had a rather lame-brained roadie youngster (late 
>> 30-something twit!) yell out, "Old steelie! It's an old steelie" That 
>> didn't make me so much uncomfortable as annoyed -- the bike was either the 
>> 2003 Riv road custom or the 2020 Matthews copy. I did my best to put him 
>> down.
>>
>> I enjoy bike compliments all the more in that my old steelies are 
>> generally odd: fixed gear, hub gear, or 50 or 60 mm tires with drops and 
>> fenders and rack and road derailleurs and near-corncob cassette.
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 1:20 PM J S  wrote:
>>
>>> I live in the northeast and after all of these years only had one person 
>>> say nice bike. Not sure if it was the Hillborne or the Saluki. This person 
>>> did not know it was a rivendell, they were not riding but walking at the 
>>> time. Of course there are less Rivs here than in the Bay Area. 
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 15, 2023 at 3:01:31 PM UTC-5 aeroperf wrote:
>>>
 So one thing I’ve noticed - I mean REALLY noticed - about our Rivendell 
 bikes is that they get compliments.

 I ride the Silver Comet near Atlanta.  
 https://groups.google.com/g/bicycletouring/c/cFpcvUWqzkA
 For 15 years I rode a Diamondback Approach, a decent hybrid bike (as 
 they called those back in the ’90s).  I never heard a word from fellow 
 riders.
 Then in 2015 I got a Sam Hillborne.  Bog standard, as the Brits say - 
 Sage Blue, cork grips.  I added some fenders and started seriously hitting 
 the trail for exercise.

 Suddenly folks are pulling up next to me (or going past), and saying 
 “Nice bike!”  Now I’m 74 and banging along at about 11 mph, so it’s not 
 tough to pull up next to me.  But this happens 2 - 3 times a year.  It 
 surprises me.

 A couple of nice ladies went on about the friction shifters and “a hard 
 leather seat.  He’s hard core!”, before riding off on their carbon 
 Cannondales.  A nice gentleman commented at length on the cork grips.  
 Maybe he was a fly fisherman?

 It happened again yesterday when I stopped for water.  Two guys also 
 stopped and were very complimentary about the Sam.  One asked to ride it 
 (sure!) and came back grinning (“If I didn’t already have too many bikes…”)
 It surprised my wife, too.  I built her up a Platypus last winter, and 
 on her second ride she got a “Nice bike!” from someone.  She came home 
 with 
 smiles.

 Does this happen to you when you ride your Rivendell?  Tell us about 
 the compliments you get.
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[RBW] Re: Flat Pedal Users: Favorite size/shape?

[Joe in the Pay Area]

Black Ops Torqlite UL platform pedals, now almost impossible to find.  And 
why does my reply have just a half line of height? Can baely see what I 
type!

On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 9:38:42 AM UTC-7 George Rosselle wrote:

> I have the Spank Oozy pedals on my Chameleon and like them a lot, metal, 
> low profile, and availabe bushings that are easy to replace. Too bad you 
> don't like composites, I also have Race Face Chesters on a couple bikes and 
> find them to be just as good and much less expensive.
>
> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 12:24:19 PM UTC-4 Paul Choi wrote:
>
>> I like the Blue Lug MKS XC-III pedals. Not too big and they hold my 8.5 
>> shoes well. They look like the bear trap pedals that I had on my Redline 
>> BMX bike back in the early 80's. I got mine from Hope Cyclery. They have 
>> them in six colors. 
>>
>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:39:05 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for all the good suggestions, everyone. I'm Narrowing down the 
>>> parameters, I think. So far, what I think I want:
>>>
>>> 1. Metal pedal body, not composite.
>>> 2. Rebuildable pedal (can rebuild parts be had?).
>>> 3. At least as long as the Vice (106mm, I think).
>>> 4. At least 100mm wide.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience with the Xpedo Spry? it looks to tick some 
>>> boxes.
>>>
>>> https://xpedo.com/product/pedals/flats/spry/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 8:18:37 AM UTC-7 John Bokman wrote:
>>>
 Yes, I did grease theses once already.  Grease is inexpensive, so of 
 course, I could regrease them.  As for the Catalyst,  I don't want to go 
 there for a few reasons:
 1. I already experience toe overlap (fenders on my 700c Sam) at times, 
 and the length of the pedal is way longer than the Vice.
 2. I don't like riding with my foot so far forward of the axle. In 
 other words, I'm not an arch-pedaler, which is what the Catalyst calls 
 for, 
 unless I'm mistaken.
 3. I'm not convinced I need something that long. Again, how long is 
 long enough?

 On Thursday, March 17, 2022 at 1:17:51 AM UTC-7 Garth wrote:

> Do you add grease to your Vice pedals John ?  I always add grease to 
> any pedal, open them up, slather some grease on the axle and slide the 
> body 
> back on the excess oozes out the axle side. I have 2 pairs of Vice and 
> they've been flawless. Before these I did this with Wellgo MG-1's.  
>
> I wear size 14 shoes and the Vice size and shape works great with the 
> shoes I wear. I pedal near midfoot, not totally. A longer platform would 
> not necessarily be any better. That's what always struck me about Pedal 
> Innovations. I already pedalled mid foot, my feet were already 
> "supported"...(as if any other pedal doesn't offer support !).  What they 
> neglect in their "science", is using *short cranks along with a 
> midfoot stroke*. With 185mm cranks it didn't work for me, too much of 
> a reach despite a lowered saddle, awkward.  With 170 . a little 
> better 
> but still ... nope. Then I tried 152/150's.. ahhh .. swet 
> spot 
> of both midoot power and pedal speed.  As the French say back in the day 
>  soo-play ... soo-play ! 
>
> On Wednesday, March 16, 2022 at 9:24:43 PM UTC-4 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>> I've been riding VP Vice pedals for a few years now. It took a long 
>> while (aprx. a year) to get used to riding flats, coming from Speedplay 
>> Frogs. Finally, it took, and I'm happy on the flats for my commuter (Sam 
>> Hill).
>>
>> However, the Vice have developed play, rattle a bit, and generally 
>> feel gritty, and I have been experimenting with different ideas. I've 
>> recently used the old MKS Touring pedals, and RMX sneaker pedals. These 
>> are 
>> okay, but what I've discovered is that for my riding,  flats without 
>> connection (no clips/straps, powergrips) feel better underfoot with a 
>> fairly large platform, and low stack height,  like the Vice. And yet I 
>> know 
>> many of you enjoy the Riv-approved MKS Gamma, lambda, and Allways 
>> models. 
>> All of these appear to be taller, and all are narrower than the vice. 
>> And 
>> yet...I wonder: how big is big enough? I'm not racing downhill, fully 
>> padded and helmeted, on a double boinger, like my neice. I just ride my 
>> bike here and there, long distances, when time allows.
>>
>> I always want to support Riv when possible. But I am looking at many 
>> other pedals that Riv does not sell. What are some of your favorites, 
>> and 
>> why? For what use? If you use the aforementioned MKS pedals, what is 
>> your 
>> opinion of them? Do you like the size/shape? I'm wondering if the length 
>> of 
>> the pedal is more important than the width. The Gamma, Lambda, and 
>> Allways, 
>> for 

[RBW] Atlantis and Sequoias for sale

[Joe in the Pay Area]

I'm the friend that Rich Lesnik has posted about a lot of bikes that need 
to be "cleared out" and sold. Please respond to me off-group and I'll get 
back to you as best I can.

The seapuke green Atlantis is nominally a 60cm, complete except for brakes. 
I have a n-o-s 60cm Sequoia (there were no '61' cm Sequoias), a 3Rensho 
frameset and 2 62cm Sequoias, one a sorta n-o-s. The second 62 Sequoia is 
mostly complete but in "rough shape," nothing a good cleaning and tune-up 
wouldn't solve (but if you're looking for a candidate as a museum piece, 
this ain't it).

Other bikes being considered for "gone" are a DeRosa, a Masi, a '93 XO-1 
and several Expeditions, mostly 60s but also a 49 and a 54. To say the 
least, it's a helluva fleet. Also an '85 Trek 720 (maroon), an almost n-o-s 
'85 Trek 620 ( a beautiful sparkly deep blue), and a n-o-s Miyata 1000 (the 
"sort-of gray-green color, with Deerheads).

I ride a 60cm 1984 Expedition and a 1980 Trek 738, so unless noted, that's 
the size they are.

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[RBW] Re: Photos of my Riv AR reconfiguration in the wilds (of my classroom)

[Joe in the Pay Area]

Beautiful bike! Same color as my '99. You've convinced me that I need to 
install the front rack and get a big basket for it.

On Tuesday, May 25, 2021 at 10:33:26 AM UTC-7 Addison wrote:

> Just sharing a few photos of this 23 year old Rivendell (gasp!).  How many 
> miles, commutes, tours, has this thing seen?  Still looks fantastic.  Not 
> sure if I'll stick with the moustache bar.  I've used it before but the 
> barend swing seems like a recipe for a top tube ding if I'm not careful.  
> May need to put the Noodles on.
>
> I'm loving the beefy tires
>
> Cheers...
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>
> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>  
>
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>
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[RBW] FS - Phil "CHP" pedals / 47cm and 54cm 1984 Expeditions

[Joe in the Pay Area]

I have a pair of working Phil Wood platform "CHP" pedals for sale. $120, 
which does not include s No issues with them except me loving my 
Specialized Touring pedals more.

Also for sale are 2 1984 Specialized Expeditions, 47 and 54cm. Downtube 
shifter braze-ons = the 1984 model year.

In very, very good shape (otherwise I would not have bought them). I'm 
thinking ~ $350 / bike, which would be just the frame, fork, stem and 
handlebars. If you would like more of the original equipment...well... let 
the haggling' begin. I bought these for parts to maintain my 60cm '84 as 
close to original as possible, so if you want some of the "goodies," we 
need to talk.

Lugged steel frames, relaxed touring geometries, plenty of room for 700x35 
Paselas and fenders...sort of "Rivendell before Rivendell..." If I had to 
choose between my '84 Expedition and my orange Atlantis, I'd have a 
conundrum on my hands.

Downhills and tailwinds to y'all.

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[RBW] Atlantis differences

[Joe in the Pay Area]

Having cawfee with Rich this morning, he of R'dell wheel building fame, I 
found out the difference between my 2 Atlantis's. (Yeah, yeah, I 
know...it's hard to bitch when you have a loaf of bread under each arm...)

So, Atlantises made by Toyo have chainstays that flare Out at the 
drop-outs, whereas the Taiwan and Waterford chainstays are straight from 
their bend out of the bottom bracket. The presence of a plate between the 
chainstays for a generator or kickstand doesn't help identifying the 
constructor.

Hope it helps. Btw, share the bread...we're all in this together.

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[RBW] Re: Riv. Camping trip, NYC, seeking route advice

[Joe in the Pay Area]

I'd take the LIRR east and 'do' the North Fork and stay in Greenport's KOA. 
There's a ferry over to...uhm...Shelter Island?... and then you could go on 
to the South Fork and head out to the lighthouse and/or Montauktown 
(goo--ooo-oood seafood!), and pass the Big Duck on your way back. Traffic 
should be minimal because "the season" is over. Sunburn would be your only 
problem and the waters should still be warm enough to stop and skinnydip.

On Saturday, September 12, 2020 at 4:21:14 PM UTC-7, lambbo wrote:
>
> Hi all, I'm hoping to do a two night camping trip the weekend after next 
> with a friend, on my Cheviot, leaving from NYC... Originally thought 
> Harriman night one, Fahenstock night two, and home, but just wondering if 
> there's a more interesting itinerary, either one way with the train home or 
> round trip.   I think we have 60 mile days in us, give or take. 
> Would appreciate any tips, thanks!!
> A

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[RBW] Re: What shade of orange?

[Joe in the Pay Area]

Rambouillet orange ! With the sparkles in the paint !

I have 3 oranges: a '93 XO-1, a '99 A/R and a +/- '02 Atlantis, but my 
knees get weak when I see a Ram in orange.

Anyone have a paint code for that shade? I wanna repaint all three!
 


On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 10:23:40 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:

> The photo shows the old Libertas 531 frame that Chauncey just took for 
> refurbishment: add modern tt brake housing stops, dt housing stops for bar 
> end shifters, and over-the-bb f and r derailleur cable guides. Odd, the 
> rear is already spaced at 130 -- this is a bike from the 1970s, so someone 
> altered it in the meanwhile.
>
> I've decided I need an orange bike, So, to the question: What shade of 
> orange do y'all recommend? The orange on the panels looks rather muted, 
> don't you think?
>
> This looks deeper, but between my bad color vision and even a HD monitor, 
> who knows; what do you think?
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> This looks similar: somehow "deeper" than the original orange on the 
> panels:
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> Chauncey delivered the Pseudo Riv just now; still need to hook up shifter 
> (probably old trigger shifter under right brake lever, which means I'll 
> have to untape that side of the bar; hate taping bars). And I have to mount 
> a tire on the rear wheel, then adjust the shifting for the AM hub. Will 
> post photos then.
>
> Also to come, photos of the 2003 Curt custom road (fixed gear modifed by 
> Dave and Chauncey) which I am selling.
>
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> Alburquerque, Nuevo Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique, Orbis Terrarum
>
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