Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Summer Riding Photos 2023

[Kim Hetzel]

Drew,

I thank you for information and the current conditions of Old La Honda
Road. I appreciate it.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Wed, Jul 5, 2023, 11:05 AM Drew Saunders  wrote:

> Kim,
>
> Old La Honda and Stage (which you might have taken near San Gregorio) are
> closed: https://www.smcgov.org/publicworks/county-road-closures
> Hwy 84, which is how I usually get home after riding Old La Honda, has
> some seriously scary damage:
> https://dot.ca.gov/caltrans-near-me/district-4/d4-projects/d4-san-mateo-84-storm-damage
>
> I think OLH is closed at the very top, so I may ride up it to the closure
> and then back down again this weekend.
>
> Drew
>
> On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 4:01:13 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Drew,
>>
>> I, personally, have never been nor set foot on or to the Mountain Winery
>> in Saratoga in California. However, I have been by that road entrance on
>> Hwy 9 many times over that led up to it.
>>
>> Back in the 70's, I went to a school up off of Sanborn Road on Pick Road
>> that led to a plateau overlooking the Paul Mason Vineyards from a distance.
>> The name of the school I went to was Valley Christian High School, of which
>> I attended for four years.
>>
>> I did ride my bicycle to school one time. That was a big adventure from
>> Mountain View, where I lived with my parents. I rode my first ten speed
>> bicycle; a Batavus. Going down Sanborn Road was quite exhilarating to say
>> none the least.
>>
>> Now, the high school I went to has been turned into a summer camp and a
>> wedding venue with a lot of new amenities, especially a large pool. It is
>> called Walden West.
>>  http://www.waldenwestfoundation.org/
>>
>> I did a lot of bicycle riding up Old LaHonda from Page Mill Road to
>> Skyline and over to the coast to San Gregorio. I rode Skyline to Half Moon
>> Bay.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 12:26:55 PM UTC-7 Drew Saunders wrote:
>>
>>> Took the Riv up to the Mountain Winery in Saratoga, CA today (almost
>>> more famous for the concerts and other events there than the wine). Even
>>> though I've lived here for many years, this is only my 2nd time riding up
>>> these hills. Most of the hills I usually ride around here are getting road
>>> repairs from this past winter's really heavy storms, so I'm broadening my
>>> route selection.
>>> [image: Panasonic-LX5-P1040361-20230704.jpg][image:
>>> Panasonic-LX5-P1040360-20230704.jpg][image:
>>> Panasonic-LX5-P1040359-20230704.jpg]
>>> The new Swift Kestrel did a fine job holding the vest and arm warmers
>>> that I really didn't need (I keep forgetting how much warmer it is just a
>>> little south of where I live), plus the little Panasonic LX5 camera that
>>> was used to take these photos.
>>>
>>> I'm also really liking my "one by with bailout" 26-42, 11-28 gearing. I
>>> only used the front derailleur four times (two downshift, two upshift) for
>>> the Mount Eden and Pierce roads, and mostly just stayed in the 42 for I'm
>>> guessing about 90-95% of the ride, which is what I wanted with this
>>> gearing. I used the whole cassette with the 42 'ring, and the 17 through 25
>>> with the 26 chainring.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Northern Hemisphere Summer Riding Photos 2023

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Drew,

I, personally, have never been nor set foot on or to the Mountain Winery in 
Saratoga in California. However, I have been by that road entrance on Hwy 9 
many times over that led up to it. 

Back in the 70's, I went to a school up off of Sanborn Road on Pick Road 
that led to a plateau overlooking the Paul Mason Vineyards from a distance. 
The name of the school I went to was Valley Christian High School, of which 
I attended for four years. 

I did ride my bicycle to school one time. That was a big adventure from 
Mountain View, where I lived with my parents. I rode my first ten speed 
bicycle; a Batavus. Going down Sanborn Road was quite exhilarating to say 
none the least. 

Now, the high school I went to has been turned into a summer camp and a 
wedding venue with a lot of new amenities, especially a large pool. It is 
called Walden West. 
 http://www.waldenwestfoundation.org/

I did a lot of bicycle riding up Old LaHonda from Page Mill Road to Skyline 
and over to the coast to San Gregorio. I rode Skyline to Half Moon Bay. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 12:26:55 PM UTC-7 Drew Saunders wrote:

> Took the Riv up to the Mountain Winery in Saratoga, CA today (almost more 
> famous for the concerts and other events there than the wine). Even though 
> I've lived here for many years, this is only my 2nd time riding up these 
> hills. Most of the hills I usually ride around here are getting road 
> repairs from this past winter's really heavy storms, so I'm broadening my 
> route selection. 
> [image: Panasonic-LX5-P1040361-20230704.jpg][image: 
> Panasonic-LX5-P1040360-20230704.jpg][image: 
> Panasonic-LX5-P1040359-20230704.jpg]
> The new Swift Kestrel did a fine job holding the vest and arm warmers that 
> I really didn't need (I keep forgetting how much warmer it is just a little 
> south of where I live), plus the little Panasonic LX5 camera that was used 
> to take these photos.
>
> I'm also really liking my "one by with bailout" 26-42, 11-28 gearing. I 
> only used the front derailleur four times (two downshift, two upshift) for 
> the Mount Eden and Pierce roads, and mostly just stayed in the 42 for I'm 
> guessing about 90-95% of the ride, which is what I wanted with this 
> gearing. I used the whole cassette with the 42 'ring, and the 17 through 25 
> with the 26 chainring.
>

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[RBW] ISO/WTB: hex brass valve caps from Rew10 Works.

[Kim Hetzel]

I am ISO/WTB two (2) hex brass value caps from Rew10 Works. 

I am aware of the BLUE LUG sells them on their website:
https://global.bluelug.com/rew10-works-hex-brass-valve-cap.html

It is my understanding that these value caps will fit on presta values. 

I am not interested paying the expensive amount of monies for shipping 
overseas for such two small items.

Does anyone have two (2) of these here in the United States that would be 
willing to sell me for a reasonable price, plus shipping ?

Thank-you,
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

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[RBW] Re: FS: Six speed freewheels, J. A. Stein freewheel injector and freewheel removers

[Kim Hetzel]

The six speed freewheels, J. A. Stein freewheel injector and freewheel 
removers have been SOLD.

On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:50:10 AM UTC-7 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> I have a pending payment of $100.00 currently. 
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
>
> On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 8:35:17 PM UTC-7 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>
>> I have a lot of Suntour 6-speed freewheels, a NOS/NIB J. A. Stein 
>> freewheel injector and three splined freewheel removers for sale. 
>>
>> There is one freewheel on the far bottom left that is an odd ball. It is 
>> not spaced well between some of the cogs. You would need to tear it apart 
>> and fit the right spacers in to make it work.
>>
>> The top left Suntour 14-32T is NOS. It has some rust on it from being 
>> stored in my garage over the years. All the others are used. There are five 
>> Suntour freewheels with one Shimano freewheel.
>>
>> I am only interested selling the whole lot.
>>
>> Make me an offer.
>>
>> Payment via Paypal
>> Shipped in the CONUS only.
>> Exact shipping cost will be determined at the time of shipment.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> [image: 20230701_175909 (2).jpg][image: 20230701_180044 (2).jpg]
>>
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Re: [RBW] FS: One bike's worth of Tektro V-Brakes

[Kim Hetzel]

 Hello Richard,

I replaced my Tektro V-brakes with Dia Compe SS-6 levers and Dia Compe 980 
cantilever brakes.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.


On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:38:57 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> What brakes did you put on the Clem?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 1, 2023, at 11:54 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
> I have for sale one bike's worth of Tektro V-Brakes off of my Clem Smith 
> Jr. "L" bicycle. They are good condition. I am missing an end cap on one of 
> the noodles. Otherwise, all the parts are there. The brake pads still have 
> good wear left on them.
>
>
>
> $45.00, shipped in the CONUS.
> Paypal payment friends and family, please.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: One bike's worth of Tektro V-Brakes

[Kim Hetzel]

Hello Richard,

I replaced my Tektro V-brakes with Dia Compe SS-6 levers and Dia Compe 980 
cantilever brakes.

How is your back and neck doing ? 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Sunday, July 2, 2023 at 6:38:57 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> What brakes did you put on the Clem?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 1, 2023, at 11:54 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
> I have for sale one bike's worth of Tektro V-Brakes off of my Clem Smith 
> Jr. "L" bicycle. They are good condition. I am missing an end cap on one of 
> the noodles. Otherwise, all the parts are there. The brake pads still have 
> good wear left on them.
>
>
>
> $45.00, shipped in the CONUS.
> Paypal payment friends and family, please.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA
>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Six speed freewheels, J. A. Stein freewheel injector and freewheel removers

[Kim Hetzel]

 I have a pending payment of $100.00 currently. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.


On Saturday, July 1, 2023 at 8:35:17 PM UTC-7 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> I have a lot of Suntour 6-speed freewheels, a NOS/NIB J. A. Stein 
> freewheel injector and three splined freewheel removers for sale. 
>
> There is one freewheel on the far bottom left that is an odd ball. It is 
> not spaced well between some of the cogs. You would need to tear it apart 
> and fit the right spacers in to make it work.
>
> The top left Suntour 14-32T is NOS. It has some rust on it from being 
> stored in my garage over the years. All the others are used. There are five 
> Suntour freewheels with one Shimano freewheel.
>
> I am only interested selling the whole lot.
>
> Make me an offer.
>
> Payment via Paypal
> Shipped in the CONUS only.
> Exact shipping cost will be determined at the time of shipment.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> [image: 20230701_175909 (2).jpg][image: 20230701_180044 (2).jpg]
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Re: [RBW] Re: FS: Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass EL $20

[Kim Hetzel]

That is very wonderful to hear, Eliot !  I am very happy that you found
one.

I am very happy with my Clem.

Get outside and ride @ !

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:53 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:

> Yep! Thanks Kim.
>
> Even better than I imagined
>
> On Mon, Jun 26, 2023 at 4:34 PM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
>> Eliot,
>>
>> Looks like you finally found an Atlantis bicycle. Toyo made, too ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 2:35:25 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Ever wish you could try out the popular Rat Trap Pass tires without
>>> dishing out $200 for something that might not fit or you might not like?
>>>
>>> Here’s your chance. For your consideration,  I have a set of Ratty rat
>>> trap pass 26x2.3 for just $20!
>>>
>>> The catch is that they are heavily worn and booted and I think there’s
>>> some mild sidewall damage. I bought these heavily used to test out the
>>> tires before taking the plunge and loved them. I’ve put a handful of 20-30
>>> mile rides on them and they work great. I can’t in good conscience
>>> recommend them for regular service but for someone wishing to test the fit
>>> or function they would be a great opportunity.
>>>
>>> Asking $20 local pick up in Seattle or willing to ship at your cost.
>>>
>>>
>>> Eliot
>>>
>>> P.S. I’ll take some pics with the new shoes soon.
>>>
>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Rene Herse Rat Trap Pass EL $20

[Kim Hetzel]

Eliot, 

Looks like you finally found an Atlantis bicycle. Toyo made, too ?

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.  

On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 2:35:25 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ever wish you could try out the popular Rat Trap Pass tires without 
> dishing out $200 for something that might not fit or you might not like?
>
> Here’s your chance. For your consideration,  I have a set of Ratty rat 
> trap pass 26x2.3 for just $20!
>
> The catch is that they are heavily worn and booted and I think there’s 
> some mild sidewall damage. I bought these heavily used to test out the 
> tires before taking the plunge and loved them. I’ve put a handful of 20-30 
> mile rides on them and they work great. I can’t in good conscience 
> recommend them for regular service but for someone wishing to test the fit 
> or function they would be a great opportunity. 
>
> Asking $20 local pick up in Seattle or willing to ship at your cost. 
>
>
> Eliot
>
> P.S. I’ll take some pics with the new shoes soon. 
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] FS: Timberland Cycling Shoes: size 10.5

[Kim Hetzel]

My Timberland cycling shoes are SOLD !

On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 3:38:12 PM UTC-7 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I am tempted, except that it seems quite possible that I will never give 
> up my SPDs after all for the lovely XC Pro quills and the lovelier near-NOS 
> Duegis I got to use with them; if I ever did install the Suntours on a bike 
> I'd want a nice pair of "touring" shoes (ie, no cleats) to go with the 
> ensemble. Nice shoes.
>
> But Timberland. I used to own a couple of pairs of their slip-ons -- "boat 
> shoes." Hand made in New England somewhere by doughty, independent, laconic 
> Yankees who valued good work and materials above loquacity. And all leather 
> lined as well as leather uppers -- only plastic the Vibram soles -- with 
> ties that actually ran around the perimeter of the upper to snug up the fit 
> instead of being just tacked on as decoration. 
>
> This is not an offer, just a thought-out-loud: if these were to sell for 
> $35 shipped to NM, I would probably buy them to stick on the shelf with all 
> my other unused bike shoes.
>
> Patrick "If it were an offer I fear it might be an insult" Moore, who 
> knows that sometimes people simply get tired of having things and want to 
> get rid of them, and who likes stiff-soled cycling shoes.
>
> Oh, speaking of stiff cycling soles: I'm pretty damned flexible and spry 
> for my 68 human years, but I very humorously discovered that stiff-soled 
> SPD shoes can make one act as if one's joints had calcified. Because I ride 
> my bikes to church, and because Orthodox (Christian, not Jewish) services 
> -- esp Slav-based -- are interminably long, I bought a pair of vaguely 
> Vans-like Specialized SPD shoes. They have a wide toe box, perfectly flat 
> sole, and are far more comfortable while standing through the typical 2+ 
> hour Sunday liturgy (oh, they get much longer than that!) than my otherwise 
> perfect 1980s-vintage Shimano SPDs.
>
> But in those Lenten ceremonies where you have to bob rapidly up and down 
> between standing and kneeling with forehead on floor in full prostrations, 
> I noticed that I was slow and awkward, and put it down simply to advancing 
> age and decrepitude -- until one evening I drove in wearing regular Vibram 
> slip ons and found that I was as spry as I had been in my salad-days-40s; 
> stiffness due almost entirely to the unbending SPD soles that required me 
> to carefully lift feet to perform the prostrations.
>
> On Sun, Jun 25, 2023 at 9:47 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
>> I have a pair of Timberland cycling shoes for sale. They are a size 10.5 
>> in black with a unique chain link patterned bottom sole. They are make of 
>> both leather and synthetic materials. They have had little use. I have 
>> taken very good care of them.  I have used Obenauf's HP leather conditioner 
>> on them. 
>>
>
>> These are the most comfortable cycling shoes that I have ever worn. I 
>> love them dearly.  Unfortunately, I am unable to wear them anymore. I wore 
>> them three times riding on my Clem. The stiffness of the soles of these 
>> shoes agitates the inner and outer muscles of my left knee. I have had no 
>> problem with riding in my Merrell Moab Rover shoes prior. 
>>
>> I do not remember how much I paid for these new. I know that one does not 
>> see these shoes very much anymore. They have been long gone out of 
>> production decades ago; late 1990's ?.
>>
>> Make me an offer.
>>
>> More photos upon request. 
>>
>
>> Paypal payment 
>> Shipping in the CONUS only.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA
>>
>>
>>
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[RBW] Re: FS: Timberland Cycling Shoes: size 10.5

[Kim Hetzel]

Here are some pictures:

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Kim Hetzel
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On Sunday, June 25, 2023 at 9:10:49 AM UTC-7 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> I have a pair of Timberland cycling shoes for sale near excellent 
> condition. They are a size 10.5 in black with a unique chain link patterned 
> bottom sole. They are make of both leather and synthetic materials. They 
> have had little use. I have taken very good care of them.  I have used 
> Obenauf's HP leather conditioner on them.
>
> These are the most comfortable cycling shoes that I have ever worn. I love 
> them dearly.  Unfortunately, I am unable to wear them anymore. I wore them 
> three times riding on my Clem. The stiffness of the soles of these shoes 
> agitates the inner and outer muscles of my left knee. I have had no problem 
> with riding in my Merrell Moab Rover shoes prior.
>
> I do not remember how much I paid for these new. I know that one does not 
> see these shoes very much anymore. They have been long gone out of 
> production decades ago; late 1990's ?
>
> Make me an offer.
>
>  Photos upon request.
>
> Paypal payment
> Shipping in the CONUS only.
> Exact shipping cost will be determined at the time of shipping.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA
>
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] FS: Timberland Cycling Shoes: size 10.5

[Kim Hetzel]

I have a pair of Timberland cycling shoes for sale near excellent 
condition. They are a size 10.5 in black with a unique chain link patterned 
bottom sole. They are make of both leather and synthetic materials. They 
have had little use. I have taken very good care of them.  I have used 
Obenauf's HP leather conditioner on them.

These are the most comfortable cycling shoes that I have ever worn. I love 
them dearly.  Unfortunately, I am unable to wear them anymore. I wore them 
three times riding on my Clem. The stiffness of the soles of these shoes 
agitates the inner and outer muscles of my left knee. I have had no problem 
with riding in my Merrell Moab Rover shoes prior.

I do not remember how much I paid for these new. I know that one does not 
see these shoes very much anymore. They have been long gone out of 
production decades ago; late 1990's ?

Make me an offer.

 Photos upon request.

Paypal payment
Shipping in the CONUS only.
Exact shipping cost will be determined at the time of shipping.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA





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Re: [RBW] 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Kim Hetzel]

Additional information to be added to my long torso, I have short limbs.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Saturday, June 24, 2023 at 4:25:23 PM UTC-7 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> Very well said, Laing. I absolutely agree with you.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA 
>
> On Sat, Jun 24, 2023, 12:49 PM lconley  wrote:
>
>> Then there are also those with really, really long torsos, that need a 
>> long stem *and* lots of setback on the seatpost; or a custom frame.
>> Also remember that a Brooks saddle sometimes needs a longer setback 
>> seatpost to put you in the same location relative to the pedals as another 
>> type of saddle on a normal seatpost; no longer stem will help that.
>>
>> Laing 
>>
>> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 3:22:38 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>>
>>> + another for Garth's point (and many others make it too, including PJW 
>>> in his very good article on bike fitting) that you first set up your saddle 
>>> in relation to the cranks in order to get both good "balance" (with 
>>> sufficient setback that your torso muscles support the torso's weight, and 
>>> so that this support is not left to hands and arms and shoulders), and good 
>>> power or torque on the pedals (too far forward and you lose power, IME -- 
>>> Grant cured me of an all-the-way forward saddle, long story, by saying, 
>>> "move your saddle back and down").
>>>
>>> And of course all rules are merely starting points.
>>>
>>> No setback seatposts make sense on a bike like this; you even see 
>>> seatposts with forward "setback" or perhaps "set-forward," but look at 
>>> those seat tube angles!
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> [image: image.png]
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 12:24 PM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Perhaps another bit of information to muddy the waters is the Analog 
>>>> Cycles perspective that straight (no setback) seatposts make no sense, 
>>>> except for frames (like theirs) that have relatively slack seat tubes. 
>>>> Like 
>>>> our Riv’s.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Kim Hetzel]

Very well said, Laing. I absolutely agree with you.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA

On Sat, Jun 24, 2023, 12:49 PM lconley  wrote:

> Then there are also those with really, really long torsos, that need a
> long stem *and* lots of setback on the seatpost; or a custom frame.
> Also remember that a Brooks saddle sometimes needs a longer setback
> seatpost to put you in the same location relative to the pedals as another
> type of saddle on a normal seatpost; no longer stem will help that.
>
> Laing
>
> On Friday, June 23, 2023 at 3:22:38 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:
>
>> + another for Garth's point (and many others make it too, including PJW
>> in his very good article on bike fitting) that you first set up your saddle
>> in relation to the cranks in order to get both good "balance" (with
>> sufficient setback that your torso muscles support the torso's weight, and
>> so that this support is not left to hands and arms and shoulders), and good
>> power or torque on the pedals (too far forward and you lose power, IME --
>> Grant cured me of an all-the-way forward saddle, long story, by saying,
>> "move your saddle back and down").
>>
>> And of course all rules are merely starting points.
>>
>> No setback seatposts make sense on a bike like this; you even see
>> seatposts with forward "setback" or perhaps "set-forward," but look at
>> those seat tube angles!
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 12:24 PM Richard Rose  wrote:
>>
>>> Perhaps another bit of information to muddy the waters is the Analog
>>> Cycles perspective that straight (no setback) seatposts make no sense,
>>> except for frames (like theirs) that have relatively slack seat tubes. Like
>>> our Riv’s.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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Re: [RBW] 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Kim Hetzel]

Garth,

I'm currently riding a Clem Smith Jr L bicycle with a Nitto Techomic stem.
I don't feel the need to have or replace it with a shorter stem. I'm very
comfortable in my cockpit.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.



On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 12:01 PM Garth  wrote:

>
> I have a hunch that many people considering a very long setback post are
> more likely desiring more forward reach, for which changing the stem
> properly accomplishes. Moving your saddle further back than your optimal
> position over the bottom bracket for the sake of more forward reach is
> "going the wrong direction" !  Rivendell isn't alone as far as bike vendors
> in either downplaying or outright disregarding the importance and efficacy
> of proper stem length.
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Re: [RBW] 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Kim Hetzel]

Garth,

My need for lots of setback on my Sakae Ringyo MTE 100 seat post is my
blame it on my long torso. I have this seat post on several bikes of mine.
It works very well for me.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023, 12:01 PM Garth  wrote:

>
> I have a hunch that many people considering a very long setback post are
> more likely desiring more forward reach, for which changing the stem
> properly accomplishes. Moving your saddle further back than your optimal
> position over the bottom bracket for the sake of more forward reach is
> "going the wrong direction" !  Rivendell isn't alone as far as bike vendors
> in either downplaying or outright disregarding the importance and efficacy
> of proper stem length.
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[RBW] Re: The maxium tire size for a 52cm Clem Smith Jr. "L"

[Kim Hetzel]

Thank-you, Laing.

On Tuesday, June 20, 2023 at 4:49:14 AM UTC-7 lconley wrote:

> I have put 27.5 x 2.4 Schwalbe Super Moto-X on Velocity Cliffhangers on my 
> 52 cm Clementine, WITH Honjo Flat 65 fenders. 
>
> Laing
>
> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 10:30:04 PM UTC-4 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> without fenders...
>>
>> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 7:27:30 PM UTC-7 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>>
>>> I am asking for a friend..
>>>
>>> What is the maximum tire size for a 52cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" frame set ?
>>>
>>> Thank-you.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>
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[RBW] Re: The maxium tire size for a 52cm Clem Smith Jr. "L"

[Kim Hetzel]

Thank-you, Ed.

On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 7:38:16 PM UTC-7 Ed Carolipio wrote:

> Hi Kim,
>
> I've squeezed in a Schwalbe G-One Speed (no knobs) at 27.5x2.35 which 
> measures out to 60mm on the stock rims. There's about 5mm of clearance on 
> each side. The tires have to be deflated to clear the brake pads when 
> removing the wheel.
>
> --Ed C.
>
> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 7:30:04 PM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> without fenders...
>>
>> On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 7:27:30 PM UTC-7 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>>
>>> I am asking for a friend..
>>>
>>> What is the maximum tire size for a 52cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" frame set ?
>>>
>>> Thank-you.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: The maxium tire size for a 52cm Clem Smith Jr. "L"

[Kim Hetzel]

without fenders...

On Monday, June 19, 2023 at 7:27:30 PM UTC-7 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> I am asking for a friend..
>
> What is the maximum tire size for a 52cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" frame set ?
>
> Thank-you.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
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[RBW] The maxium tire size for a 52cm Clem Smith Jr. "L"

[Kim Hetzel]

I am asking for a friend..

What is the maximum tire size for a 52cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" frame set ?

Thank-you.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

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[RBW] Re: 26.8 seatposts with generous setback

[Kim Hetzel]

Johnny,

I have a 27.2mm Sakae Ringyo MTE-100 with a shim on my Clem Smith Jr. "L" 
bicycle for reasons that I blame on my long torso and short limbs. I do not 
own a Brooks saddle on this bike. Brooks saddle are known to have more 
setback. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 3:01:05 PM UTC-7 Johnny Alien wrote:

> Wow! If someone needs that much setback I would think they have the wrong 
> sized frame.
>
> On Saturday, May 20, 2023 at 4:29:30 PM UTC-4 Craig Montgomery wrote:
>
>>
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/256074774748?hash=item3b9f3ef8dc:g:RhEAAOSws0hkX-AT=enc%3AAQAI4DfCiOEnjCvHhEU4bvqRDReTJ0m362omPlZff140MwozY6egewAqxLbY%2FCM6cb3VeqAQUy1E3FHBSP66Cwkpj3b70sLwAY1HVQ3i6pKXBI27s7mFCpliMiV1OQUJraR1uxiGX6UxJlKwM3peUVy7UNEYMQVYZdITGOb6NM5jP2aBScDUF57hz0dfJwKshD70UPj2azpERnKdgTN%2BBLL%2FRdn9mYJSfK%2B8UiFINCeK4R5LchB6MLQUqE2pNuQdmCFoKuT%2BztFW3jVjct%2BHBt9Xv0uS9OQ10PPShHnPCl3UihQU%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR6LVwq2HYg
>>
>> Another option
>> Craig in Tucson
>>
>> On Thursday, May 18, 2023 at 1:42:33 PM UTC-7 Paul in Dallas wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was recently talking with a friend here in the area also looking for a 
>>> 26.8 set post with more set back for his Roadini.
>>>
>>> He decided to have Rivbike order the IRC one for him some have had 
>>> issues with because he heard a Rivendell employee recently had tried one 
>>> and had no issues because IRC had resolved the issue with a thicker 
>>> serrated washer.
>>>
>>> He said he would report back after trying it.
>>>
>>> Personally I would consult with an experienced frame builder about 
>>> reaming out a seat tube especially with an expensive frame and have an 
>>> expert builder donut if I went that route.
>>>
>>> I might've tempted to try it on a $50 Craiglist bike but not a nice bike 
>>> I loved.
>>>
>>> Safe riding to all.
>>>
>>> Paul in Dallas 
>>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Let’s say I made my Clem into a “gravel bike”

[Kim Hetzel]

Leah,

I have own my Clem for about seven months now. I have ridden mostly on 
pavement. There has been a several times that I have gone off road, mostly 
dirt. I have found a completely different riding experience in handling of 
my Clem. By this, I mean, my bike handles and behaves very differently. It 
is sure-footed and solid with it long
wheelbase and tires (Schwalbe 29x2.25 Rapid Rob without fenders). I point 
the bike in the direction I want it to go and it goes there without 
hesitation nor slippage underneath me. This I find very exciting and 
quickly puts a smile on face. 

I encourage you to try riding off road as a new experience for you.

As for now, I do plan on buying some fenders in the near future, such as 
Honjo Smooth 74s'. However, I have been looking at Honjo Flat 80s', of 
which I could fit a wider tire; up to 2.5 inches. These are currently sold 
out at SIMWORKS. They are not a priority right now.

Kim Hetzel
in Yelm smelling the Scotch broom in full bloom. Yuck.

On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 2:33:28 AM UTC-7 ascpgh wrote:

> Sorry, that one got out without signature and the last picture:
> [image: B0B8789D-EEA9-4520-B056-D9707E0B63E0.jpg]
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Thursday, June 8, 2023 at 5:32:24 AM UTC-4 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> Something I hadn't imagined until my riding included entires days on 
>> non-paved surfaces was that even on a clear beautiful day and dry 
>> conditions, the fenders and my long front one's flap kept the dust down, 
>> away from my drivetrain and feet. On multi-day trips it has protected and 
>> preserved it where in the fenderless past there was no doubt that I had to 
>> carry my chain lube and rags to carefully "field clean" and reapply. 
>> [image: B792C12F-776A-49DC-8E71-7BE13C4EFF65_1_105_c.jpeg]
>>
>> I am with Josiah's advice or ride what you've got until replacement time 
>> comes. I am also a convert to Rene Herse (nee Compass) tires. They made my 
>> Rambouillet remain suitable for ten more years of much wider scope of use 
>> than Grant envisioned when it was new. I have a custom bike now partly 
>> built around the tires, partly my Ram's fit and definitely fenders.
>>
>> On Wednesday, June 7, 2023 at 10:10:11 AM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I find a use for them nearly every ride - there is always some puddle or 
>>> a bunch of goose poop that makes me thank my lucky stars for fenders. I 
>>> rode a club ride last night and was sprayed by the woman riding in front of 
>>> me because of course she had no fenders. I envied the woman behind me, who 
>>> was surely spared by MY fenders.
>>>
>>> On Jun 7, 2023, at 8:17 AM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>>>
>>> I used to always fender my bikes because I liked the looks but then 
>>> realized that I was never in any conditions where they were needed from a 
>>> practical sense so I changed my mind and now never use them.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 6, 2023 at 11:04:25 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I need to try the Clem out on gravel; in fact, I need to find some 
>>>> gravel. Our bike club has a Ride Our Routes collection that I will look 
>>>> into. But I also need new tires, regardless. These are pretty worn from 
>>>> being my one and only bike that got tons of covid miles. 
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, June 4, 2023 at 1:32:07 PM UTC-4 Slin wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> @Leah - Have you tried taking the Clem out on gravel rides, as-is? 
>>>>> I've also got a Clem and Platy, so I'm curious to hear how you experience 
>>>>> them differently on the same trails. 
>>>>>
>>>>> S
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, June 3, 2023 at 1:15:22 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> I love pavement. But I’ve been on two gravel rides in the last month 
>>>>>> and I rode a Platy either time and it wasn’t my favorite for that bike. 
>>>>>> But, I have my old 2019 52 cm Clem L, and it doesn’t have a dedicated 
>>>>>> purpose right now and shouldn’t that be the bike for rough and tough 
>>>>>> stuff 
>>>>>> like gravel? Also, my Platys are prisses. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BUT. I’m not good at gravel. I have no idea what the kids are doing 
>>>>>> these days. I have questions, and you have answers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Can I keep my VO wavy fenders on a gravel bi

[RBW] J Bicycle Wear is going out of business later this year

[Kim Hetzel]

 ...as to exactly when, I did not bother to ask via email. 

This company has been around for decades. I don't blame them for retiring. 

I recently bought some rain gear from J Bicycle Wear. This was a week ago 
~. All their rain jackets are SOLD OUT !  ...except 2XL.

All prices are reduced and Everything Must Go !

https://www.bicycleclothing.com/index.html

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

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Re: [RBW] FS: Brooks leather saddle care kit

[Kim Hetzel]

SOLD.

On Wed, May 17, 2023, 10:23 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:

> I have a Brooks leather saddle care kit. It includes the original box, a
> small tin of Proofide, cloth, spanner wrench and booklet.
>
> Overall the kit is new for the exception of that I did use some of the
> Proofide from the tin just once to try it out with a purchase of a Brooks
> saddle I bought years ago.
>
> I do not need this kit, because I do not own a Brooks leather saddle
> anymore.
>
> $20.00, shipped in CONUS.
> Payment via PayPal.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
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Re: [RBW] FS: Brooks leather saddle care kit

[Kim Hetzel]

This has been SOLD !

On Wed, May 17, 2023, 10:23 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:

> I have a Brooks leather saddle care kit. It includes the original box, a
> small tin of Proofide, cloth, spanner wrench and booklet.
>
> Overall the kit is new for the exception of that I did use some of the
> Proofide from the tin just once to try it out with a purchase of a Brooks
> saddle I bought years ago.
>
> I do not need this kit, because I do not own a Brooks leather saddle
> anymore.
>
> $20.00, shipped in CONUS.
> Payment via PayPal.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: Rivendell Clem L 59cm

[Kim Hetzel]

I currently have a 59 cm Clem L in lime olive. My hope that I can buy a 
59cm Clem L in RBW Blue this coming Friday, when the Clems' go on sale at 
RBW. If that happens, then I would post my 59 cm Clem L for sale here.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Tuesday, April 18, 2023 at 10:31:23 AM UTC-7 jan.ot...@gmail.com wrote:

> Bump. Still looking for an earlier 59 Clem L. Frame/Fork preferably. 
> Thanks.
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[RBW] Re: Classic Italian Bicycles: now flat poster !

[Kim Hetzel]

Matt,

I do not know of any Italian made Rivendells. This is for those are 
interested in Italian made bicycles, aside from interests in Rivendell 
bicycles.

Kim.

On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 2:01:22 PM UTC-7 Matt Beecher wrote:

> For those Italian made Rivendells?
>
> On Monday, March 20, 2023 at 12:30:37 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>I thought I would share this with the group:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://corsaclassic.com/en-us/products/classic-italian-bicycles-poster
>>
>> *Thanks to popular demand we now offer the option to have the Italian 
>> poster delivered rolled for optimal display!*
>>
>>
>>
>> <https://a351e.r.ag.d.sendibm3.com/mk/cl/f/0UzSZmqb1WsDvmmMpn15KYcosxokBhAEfiBAfIws-yG5FeGgs-2E0lRDgSUdqRTk_uz5B_-6dCUD8GCCk6ZjtOnFiRYyapEMEfhqC-EdVVLvmpRYhAQlnatiaCadG_ksHS-yWoP7wnn8OfJSkO9TrX6HzPu0L4zSYWHE-zpayMsnUjdTessrNQDZAjqGfu5fCj50RS27bkB5owWW5dwtxVTWmwuR8fj7Y-RrEOyg6rHq5qGqhxNLOMV5v4s4lbyK>
>>  
>>
>> *Classic Italian Bicycles "Signature Edition"* 
>> <https://a351e.r.ag.d.sendibm3.com/mk/cl/f/9evDsk-_BCn2Y9SlAUwRgnYqCqg9ZO4nIwDFbPK83Q6DHcqDy0zwRBggAX69hIqDqqmSc-lnkyefQWvf8NR6bUTqHsK3UEKg90jKW3WO9B1A62xqCZ2_iqDGdG2RCo8h5JaiWD91iAvrrE-36co5UZb03a892tOb0CoJJv-vZB1eiIRYKz-oR4hzkn6shA5vPwUo4soDMocGgBuNWR7H1mPBh_0q54sd1z5alQ1xq3GXmohU7LsJS7y8TW-gsdnr>
>>
>>
>> *Introducing the new flat version signature edition of the classic 
>> Italian Bicycles map! Multi-buy discount applied.* Made with care, each 
>> map is signed by the author on *200g paper*. Measures *70x50cm*, this 
>> collector's item can be proudly displayed as a stunning wall poster.
>>
>> Your map will be *shipped via priority mail in a carton tube*, ensuring 
>> that it arrives safely. Elevate your love for Italian cycling with this 
>> limited and numbered edition map, a must-have for any true cycling 
>> aficionado.
>>
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>>
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
>>
>> ­ 
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[RBW] Classic Italian Bicycles: now flat poster !

[Kim Hetzel]

   I thought I would share this with the group:


   
https://corsaclassic.com/en-us/products/classic-italian-bicycles-poster

*Thanks to popular demand we now offer the option to have the Italian 
poster delivered rolled for optimal display!*


<https://a351e.r.ag.d.sendibm3.com/mk/cl/f/0UzSZmqb1WsDvmmMpn15KYcosxokBhAEfiBAfIws-yG5FeGgs-2E0lRDgSUdqRTk_uz5B_-6dCUD8GCCk6ZjtOnFiRYyapEMEfhqC-EdVVLvmpRYhAQlnatiaCadG_ksHS-yWoP7wnn8OfJSkO9TrX6HzPu0L4zSYWHE-zpayMsnUjdTessrNQDZAjqGfu5fCj50RS27bkB5owWW5dwtxVTWmwuR8fj7Y-RrEOyg6rHq5qGqhxNLOMV5v4s4lbyK>
 

*Classic Italian Bicycles "Signature Edition"* 
<https://a351e.r.ag.d.sendibm3.com/mk/cl/f/9evDsk-_BCn2Y9SlAUwRgnYqCqg9ZO4nIwDFbPK83Q6DHcqDy0zwRBggAX69hIqDqqmSc-lnkyefQWvf8NR6bUTqHsK3UEKg90jKW3WO9B1A62xqCZ2_iqDGdG2RCo8h5JaiWD91iAvrrE-36co5UZb03a892tOb0CoJJv-vZB1eiIRYKz-oR4hzkn6shA5vPwUo4soDMocGgBuNWR7H1mPBh_0q54sd1z5alQ1xq3GXmohU7LsJS7y8TW-gsdnr>


*Introducing the new flat version signature edition of the classic Italian 
Bicycles map! Multi-buy discount applied.* Made with care, each map is 
signed by the author on *200g paper*. Measures *70x50cm*, this collector's 
item can be proudly displayed as a stunning wall poster.

Your map will be *shipped via priority mail in a carton tube*, ensuring 
that it arrives safely. Elevate your love for Italian cycling with this 
limited and numbered edition map, a must-have for any true cycling 
aficionado.


Kim Hetzel

Yelm, WA. 


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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[Kim Hetzel]

Excellent input, Keith 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Sunday, March 19, 2023 at 10:05:08 PM UTC-7 iamkeith wrote:

> This is great.  Thanks for putting it together! 
>  I have couple of suggestions, more for the participant pi-droppers than 
> for John:
>
> 1)  Please be cautious and think twice about listing your actual home 
> address.  Especially if you live somewhere like Denver or Oakland, where 
> bike theft is a major industry.  Thieves could use this info to stake-out 
> and target your place.
>
> 2)  it would be great to list the model(s) and size(s) of bikes you own.  
> So many times I wish I could have test-ridden something, but didn't know 
> how to find an example nearby.  This could really help.
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 16, 2023 at 5:33:44 PM UTC-6 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> The map is growing nicely! Got riders in Oceania and Europe on the map! 
>> Still awaiting the first rider in Sri Lanka to pop up.
>>
>> If you've added yourself, to the map please note that you can edit your 
>> responses in case you...I don't know...get a new bike? Change your riding 
>> style? Misspelled your name? Move from Arizona to Babylonia? 
>>
>> To do this, simply click on the 'Riv Rider Registration' and you can 
>> choose to 'Edit your response.' 
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:59:58 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> The Map of Riv Riders is ready!* Thanks to Dave's example of the 
>>> 'Unicycle Community Map' I've put together a similar interactive map that 
>>> Riv Riders can now populate with your location. 
>>>
>>> As mentioned, the purpose of this map is to help Riv riders find each 
>>> other, connect and plan rides.
>>>
>>> Here's a link to the site:
>>>
>>> Map of Rivendell Riders 
>>> <https://sites.google.com/view/mapofrivendellriders/home>
>>>
>>> There is a Google form registration that, once completed and manually 
>>> updated by me, will put a pin of your location on the map. 
>>>
>>> You can 'drop' this pin in a couple of ways:
>>>
>>> 1. Provide your address
>>>
>>> 2. Provide a random address in your city or town
>>>
>>> 3. Provide map coordinates (latitude, longitude)
>>>
>>> Check it out and if it seems interesting to you then register and wait 
>>> for your pin to show up. 
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> *I'll call it a beta version because I just learned how to connect 
>>> Google forms, maps, and sites together. Seems to work well though.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Riding the Bud Blanchard Trail in Eatonville, Washington

[Kim Hetzel]

Thank-you, Richard.

Kim.

On Friday, March 17, 2023 at 10:44:44 AM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Very nice!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 17, 2023, at 10:05 AM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
> Yesterday, I rode with a friend off road for the second time of ownership 
> of my bike. He owns a Surly Troll bicycle. We were out for two hours riding 
> a dirt trail above the small town of Eatonville over to the Pack Forest 
> through packed dirt, patches of old asphalt, soft mud and puddles.  The 
> length of the ride was about a little over six miles out and back in two 
> hours.
>
>
>
> The sun was out and warm around 56 degrees. It was a grand day to be out 
> and about after all the cold and wintry months. Evergreen trees around us, 
> a waterfall and a large red-tail hawk flying overhead as we scared it from 
> its roost off from being on an old tall dead tree along the trail. It was 
> really cool to see the bird that close.
>
> A woman riding a road bike with thin gravel tires rode past us at a fast 
> pace only to meet up with her a large steel tubed gate across the trail on 
> her way back down the trail. We stopped and spoke to her. Good thing that 
> we did, because before us the road split into three different directions. 
> She explained to us which road goes where. We chose the one that goes to 
> the Pack Forest parking lot is with all of the classroom and out buildings 
> are near Mountain Highway 7.
>
>
> https://maps.roadtrippers.com/us/eatonville-wa/nature/center-for-sustainable-forest-at-pack-forest-eatonville
>
> Today, I reflect on how much this Clem handles so well. It is stable, 
> solid and sure-footed. I point it the direction I want it to go and it just 
> rolls right over whatever is in its path with its 29" wheels as an ATB.  I 
> have grown in love with it even more so.
>
> It is truly well worth the all the money I paid for it and all the 
> $1000.00+ of personal upgrades. It has exceeded my expectations beyond just 
> a good bike for upright riding. I am happy. I am joyful. I am elated in 
> finding the joys of riding off road. I am comfortable now in the saddle 
> after months of trying to find the right comfortable saddle; a Terry Cite X 
> Gel, for my bony seat bones, the right seat post and with a new pair of 
> riding shorts.
>
> https://www.hikingproject.com/trail/7094525/bud-blanchard-trail
>
> Eager to get out there again. Having fun in my senior years !
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
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[RBW] Kuckarick Collectibles and Memorabilia Sale going on right now !

[Kim Hetzel]

Worth taking a look !

https://www.kucharik.com/collections/collectibles-and-memorabilia


Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

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[RBW] Riding the Bud Blanchard Trail in Eatonville, Washington

[Kim Hetzel]

Yesterday, I rode with a friend off road for the second time of ownership 
of my bike. He owns a Surly Troll bicycle. We were out for two hours riding 
a dirt trail above the small town of Eatonville over to the Pack Forest 
through packed dirt, patches of old asphalt, soft mud and puddles.  The 
length of the ride was about a little over six miles out and back in two 
hours.

The sun was out and warm around 56 degrees. It was a grand day to be out 
and about after all the cold and wintry months. Evergreen trees around us, 
a waterfall and a large red-tail hawk flying overhead as we scared it from 
its roost off from being on an old tall dead tree along the trail. It was 
really cool to see the bird that close.

A woman riding a road bike with thin gravel tires rode past us at a fast 
pace only to meet up with her a large steel tubed gate across the trail on 
her way back down the trail. We stopped and spoke to her. Good thing that 
we did, because before us the road split into three different directions. 
She explained to us which road goes where. We chose the one that goes to 
the Pack Forest parking lot is with all of the classroom and out buildings 
are near Mountain Highway 7.

https://maps.roadtrippers.com/us/eatonville-wa/nature/center-for-sustainable-forest-at-pack-forest-eatonville

Today, I reflect on how much this Clem handles so well. It is stable, solid 
and sure-footed. I point it the direction I want it to go and it just rolls 
right over whatever is in its path with its 29" wheels as an ATB.  I have 
grown in love with it even more so.

It is truly well worth the all the money I paid for it and all the 
$1000.00+ of personal upgrades. It has exceeded my expectations beyond just 
a good bike for upright riding. I am happy. I am joyful. I am elated in 
finding the joys of riding off road. I am comfortable now in the saddle 
after months of trying to find the right comfortable saddle; a Terry Cite X 
Gel, for my bony seat bones, the right seat post and with a new pair of 
riding shorts.

https://www.hikingproject.com/trail/7094525/bud-blanchard-trail

Eager to get out there again. Having fun in my senior years !

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

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[RBW] Re: Hillibikers - do you stand and pedal?

[Kim Hetzel]

MacKenzy,

Since, I have owned my Clem "L" bike with Bosco bars from last September, I 
primarily remain seated and spin. My pace of riding is mostly slow and easy 
going. I do not feel the need to stand up in the pedals, except only to get 
temporary relief from sitting in the saddle too long for a short while. 
Upon doing this, I find my hand position changes onto the upper bend of the 
handlebars from my grips.  

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.


On Wednesday, March 15, 2023 at 4:13:14 PM UTC-7 Mackenzy Albright wrote:

> I've recently been riding my more traditional geometry fixed gear quite a 
> bit for "urban commuting". Out of necessity I've been standing and 
> "mashing" more on inclines. I recall most of my "traditional diamond frame 
> bikes" I would stand and pedal a fair amount. 
>
> Every time I switch back to my Clementine with Boscos I find standing 
> pedaling to be quite un-natural feeling with my hands more or less by my 
> thighs. It works for a short burst to speed up my cadence but doesn't seem 
> like an option for sustainable climbing. 
>
> It's got me thinking with the laid back seat tubes, swept back bars, what 
> is peoples instinctive climbing methods on "hillibikes" (not traditional 
> geo rivs)
>
> Seated spinning? Or have you found a method of standing and pedaling that 
> works well. 
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Kim Hetzel]

You are more than welcome, Joyce.

Kim.


On Tue, Mar 14, 2023, 6:13 PM JAS  wrote:

> Kim, thanks for the tip about the parks pass.
>
> Joyce
> On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 11:21:24 AM UTC-7 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Joyce,
>>
>> You will need a Discovery Pass for the parking lot at Hyak. Not sure
>> about Rattlesnake Lake.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 10:32 AM JAS  wrote:
>>
>>> Kim,
>>> Thanks for the story about the John Wayne trail.  Your daughter will
>>> preserve those memories even if she isn't riding a bike now.  Good for you!
>>>
>>> I've often thought about riding that trail and now I'm going to look
>>> into it!  It will be especially fun if I can talk a couple of friends into
>>> going so we can leave cars at each end to avoid the uphill return.  I think
>>> I'll be more persuasive if I focus on the downhill aspect!  '
>>>
>>> Have a good time with your buddies and I hope you'll give us a ride
>>> report with photos.  Are you camping at Lake Easton SP or just doing the
>>> round-trip in one day?  Regardless of the plan, your Clem will shine.
>>>
>>> --Joyce
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:05:33 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:04:05 AM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to share with this group my influence of bicycle riding
>>>>> with one of two of my daughters; my youngest.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have no guilt whatsoever in my case. I just have joy and happiness
>>>>> for all the good times that we shared in our bicycle adventures together
>>>>> during a period of when my daughter was in high school. Strong and solid
>>>>> memories were built.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of our greatest and most fun adventures was riding 22 miles
>>>>> downhill on The John Wayne Pioneer Trail located in Washington state going
>>>>> from Hyak at the summit at Snoqualmie Pass near Interstate 90 to
>>>>> Rattlesnake Lake. It was the Old Milwaukee railroad line that was active 
>>>>> up
>>>>> until the 1980's from Chicago to Seattle. Now, it is a recreational trail
>>>>> for hikers, bicyclists and horses that goes across the Washington state to
>>>>> Spokane and beyond.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/7022864/john-wayne-pioneer-trail-hyak-to-rattlesnake-lake
>>>>>
>>>>> My daughter and I did this ride three different times back in 2010,
>>>>> 2011 and 2012. One of those years, we did the ride with a group; Mountains
>>>>> to Sound Green Trust, a conservatory non-profit organization.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://mtsgreenway.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> I sure did not like the idea of my bicycle; 1984 Raleigh Elkhorn,
>>>>> being tossed in and meshed up with other bicycles in the cargo hold of a
>>>>> large bus. My bike came out with scratches on the top tube. Ouch ! Was not
>>>>> going to do that anymore. Very unhappy !
>>>>>
>>>>> This coming June, I am planning on doing the ride again. However, I am
>>>>> going with two male friends of mine riding from Hyak to Lake Easton and
>>>>> back to Hyak. Then, we are going to ride from Hayk to Rattlesnake Lake. 
>>>>> I'm
>>>>> looking forward to riding my Clem smiling loudly 22 miles downhill !  Woo
>>>>> woo.
>>>>>
>>>>> My daughter does not ride her bicycles any more. She has taken another
>>>>> direction in her life. We still connect with one each other once a week
>>>>> going on long walks with her dog; keeping the father and daughter bond
>>>>> alive. I am very grateful for that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>>> Yelm, WA.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Things I Feel Guilty About: Bike Life

[Kim Hetzel]

Joyce,

You will need a Discovery Pass for the parking lot at Hyak. Not sure about
Rattlesnake Lake.

Kim Hetzel.

On Fri, Mar 10, 2023 at 10:32 AM JAS  wrote:

> Kim,
> Thanks for the story about the John Wayne trail.  Your daughter will
> preserve those memories even if she isn't riding a bike now.  Good for you!
>
> I've often thought about riding that trail and now I'm going to look into
> it!  It will be especially fun if I can talk a couple of friends into going
> so we can leave cars at each end to avoid the uphill return.  I think I'll
> be more persuasive if I focus on the downhill aspect!  '
>
> Have a good time with your buddies and I hope you'll give us a ride report
> with photos.  Are you camping at Lake Easton SP or just doing the
> round-trip in one day?  Regardless of the plan, your Clem will shine.
>
> --Joyce
>
> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:05:33 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:04:05 AM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to share with this group my influence of bicycle riding
>>> with one of two of my daughters; my youngest.
>>>
>>> I have no guilt whatsoever in my case. I just have joy and happiness for
>>> all the good times that we shared in our bicycle adventures together during
>>> a period of when my daughter was in high school. Strong and solid memories
>>> were built.
>>>
>>> One of our greatest and most fun adventures was riding 22 miles downhill
>>> on The John Wayne Pioneer Trail located in Washington state going from Hyak
>>> at the summit at Snoqualmie Pass near Interstate 90 to Rattlesnake Lake. It
>>> was the Old Milwaukee railroad line that was active up until the 1980's
>>> from Chicago to Seattle. Now, it is a recreational trail for hikers,
>>> bicyclists and horses that goes across the Washington state to Spokane and
>>> beyond.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.mtbproject.com/trail/7022864/john-wayne-pioneer-trail-hyak-to-rattlesnake-lake
>>>
>>> My daughter and I did this ride three different times back in 2010, 2011
>>> and 2012. One of those years, we did the ride with a group; Mountains to
>>> Sound Green Trust, a conservatory non-profit organization.
>>>
>>> https://mtsgreenway.org/
>>>
>>> I sure did not like the idea of my bicycle; 1984 Raleigh Elkhorn, being
>>> tossed in and meshed up with other bicycles in the cargo hold of a large
>>> bus. My bike came out with scratches on the top tube. Ouch ! Was not going
>>> to do that anymore. Very unhappy !
>>>
>>> This coming June, I am planning on doing the ride again. However, I am
>>> going with two male friends of mine riding from Hyak to Lake Easton and
>>> back to Hyak. Then, we are going to ride from Hayk to Rattlesnake Lake. I'm
>>> looking forward to riding my Clem smiling loudly 22 miles downhill !  Woo
>>> woo.
>>>
>>> My daughter does not ride her bicycles any more. She has taken another
>>> direction in her life. We still connect with one each other once a week
>>> going on long walks with her dog; keeping the father and daughter bond
>>> alive. I am very grateful for that.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Gus is complete!

[Kim Hetzel]

Thank you for your feedback, Richard.

Kim.

On Mon, Mar 13, 2023, 8:10 AM Richard Rose  wrote:

> I do not weigh bikes anymore but I do not think so? They feel very
> similar. It is bigger than the Clem with bigger/heavier wheels/tires and
> otherwise similar components so it might be heavier. Perhaps I should weigh
> them.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 13, 2023, at 11:02 AM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
> 
> Richard,
>
> Is your Gus heavier than your Clem ?
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA
>
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2023, 12:31 PM Richard Rose  wrote:
>
>> Just finished my first real ride on this Gus. 23 cold(ish) miles. It was
>> fantastic. Very familiar as expected (compared to Clem) but different
>> enough to give me confidence that this will be a great mountain bike. I do
>> miss the step through. But that’s it. The front end is noticeably stiffer -
>> and I am not real good at noticing these things. The ride is even more
>> plush than the Clem. Slightly longer wheelbase & larger tires I suspect. It
>> feels like the Clem but bigger - taller. The extra bottom bracket height
>> (2”) is only noticeable cornering - with confidence there will be no pedal
>> strikes. I love it.
>> [image:
>> eL0staezfp_4e_Ld_JOW2P9CxS8Pw0enpcPuxARbeACrcxfZe2dXf0XCBtL44Q8XUndNRjhAFJ5sQJwd6eIYIVeUQYCdX8mWnFlLvynBDu9hzK1voY-YLwDXODggnYZ_t9dqcx_QaA=w600-h315-p-k.jpeg]
>>
>> Gus Inaugural <https://photos.app.goo.gl/15RRR2WjFgx57kqh7>
>> app.goo.gl <https://photos.app.goo.gl/15RRR2WjFgx57kqh7>
>> <https://photos.app.goo.gl/15RRR2WjFgx57kqh7>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Mar 10, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Richard Rose  wrote:
>>
>> Well, almost, Still need to trim / cap the cables along with some fine
>> tuning. But, my first ever build is rolling! Shifting the 2 x 7 drivetrain
>> is very smooth & accurate. Brakes are squeal free and solid if a bit soft
>> at the lever. Touch points feel spot on as they should, having been
>> duplicated from my Clem. This promises to be epic fun once the trails dry
>> out.
>> For those interested, this has been an interesting process. Frame was
>> acquired from C Cycles in Montreal in a very smooth transaction. Awesome
>> Cliffhanger build & tires came from a Group member here. My first dynamo. A
>> bunch of parts came from Riv, Will was a big help. Stem & spacers from Blue
>> lug - they are amazing! B17 was a gift. The silver Deore rear deraillieur &
>> Black Deore brakes came from e bay. Paul levers from Northwest Bike.
>> Simworks cables... In short, it takes a village!
>> It snowed overnight here in Toledo, Ohio. It was a good day to work on
>> the bike and take it for a spin up & down the cleared just in time road.
>> This was a lot of fun & I learned a lot. A few pis here;
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/C7VAntDBoDHCZDcf8
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[RBW] Re: Riv Riders Interactive Map is Live!

[Kim Hetzel]

Funny I was thinking about a map of indicating where are all our 
Rivendell brothers and sisters are located here two days ago. 

Thank-you very much for creating one, John. Look great !

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 
On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 11:57:38 PM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> This is sic
>
> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 8:45:26 PM UTC-8 John Bokman wrote:
>
>> Thanks for setting this up John!
>>
>> John in Portland
>>
>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 1:41:43 PM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Very cool, thank you for setting this up!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 1:40:02 PM UTC-8 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
>>>> Pins are dropping!
>>>> [image: Screen Shot 2023-03-11 at 2.37.15 PM.png]
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 1:59:58 PM UTC-7 John Rinker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Map of Riv Riders is ready!* Thanks to Dave's example of the 
>>>>> 'Unicycle Community Map' I've put together a similar interactive map that 
>>>>> Riv Riders can now populate with your location. 
>>>>>
>>>>> As mentioned, the purpose of this map is to help Riv riders find each 
>>>>> other, connect and plan rides.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's a link to the site:
>>>>>
>>>>> Map of Rivendell Riders 
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/view/mapofrivendellriders/home>
>>>>>
>>>>> There is a Google form registration that, once completed and manually 
>>>>> updated by me, will put a pin of your location on the map. 
>>>>>
>>>>> You can 'drop' this pin in a couple of ways:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Provide your address
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Provide a random address in your city or town
>>>>>
>>>>> 3. Provide map coordinates (latitude, longitude)
>>>>>
>>>>> Check it out and if it seems interesting to you then register and wait 
>>>>> for your pin to show up. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers, John
>>>>>
>>>>> *I'll call it a beta version because I just learned how to connect 
>>>>> Google forms, maps, and sites together. Seems to work well though.
>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Gus is complete!

[Kim Hetzel]

Congratulations, Richard !  

Glad to hear that you learned a lot*. *Gus looks terrific. 

I, too, am with Richard in that "Can’t wait to see some more trail pictures 
and hear more about how you’d compare it with the Clem!" 

Are you going to buy some of those hinged water bottle clamps from Velo 
Orange for your Gus ?

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 4:15:24 PM UTC-8 MoVelo wrote:

> Congratulations! That looks wonderful! Thanks for sharing.
>
> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 6:08:55 PM UTC-6 DavidP wrote:
>
>> Congrats! Great build and it looks so comfortable. Looking forward to see 
>> some photos of it out and about.
>>
>> -Dave
>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 7:04:21 PM UTC-5 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Looks great! Can’t wait to see some more trail pictures and hear more 
>>> about how you’d compare it with the Clem!
>>>
>>> On Friday, March 10, 2023 at 3:45:11 PM UTC-8 Lucky wrote:
>>>
>>>> That looks awesome! Congrats! 
>>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] VELO ORANGE Website offering 30% off, site-wide ! ! !

[Kim Hetzel]

You are more than welcome, Patrick.

Kim.
anxiously waiting for warmer temperatures above 50 degrees in the 
daytime. 

On Wednesday, March 8, 2023 at 7:55:52 PM UTC-8 Patrick Moore wrote:

> Hah! Thank you for telling us what those clamps are for! I have 2 or 3 
> that I found in one of my little parts drawers and was thinking that they 
> might be useful for something, but I couldn't think where they came from. I 
> must have ordered them from VO (or Prob Solv?) some years ago.
>
> On Wed, Mar 8, 2023 at 7:56 PM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
>> *... *
>> https://velo-orange.com/collections/accessories-and-hardware/products/hinged-water-bottle-cage-clamps?variant=35950514012310
>>
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[RBW] VELO ORANGE Website offering 30% off, site-wide ! ! !

[Kim Hetzel]

 *Now through March 13th, 2023 @ 11:59pm ET we’re offering 30% off, 
site-wide!* Use the code *SPRING30* when you checkout to get the deal. 

https://velo-orange.com/pages/spring30-flash-sale

I ordered a pair of Hinged Water Bottle Cage Clamps 31.8mm / Silver for my 
Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle to replace the two King Cage's Universal Support 
Bolt:

https://kingcage.com/collections/all-products/products/universal-support-bolt

These will give a better and more clean look for my water bottle cage. 

https://velo-orange.com/collections/accessories-and-hardware/products/hinged-water-bottle-cage-clamps?variant=35950514012310

Kim Hetzel
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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Kim Hetzel]

I am waiting on the video to come out ...

Kim. 

On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:59:47 PM UTC-8 Michael Baquerizo wrote:

> yes i'll take a mini tutorial on polishing a pletscher for sure.
>
>
>
> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 2:39:18 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Wow, Ken! I love that polished double! A real pletscher to look at!
>>
>> How'd you do that?
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Thursday, March 2, 2023 at 7:19:38 AM UTC-8 Ken Yokanovich wrote:
>>
>>> I polished a kickstand for the build of my daughter's Cheviot and said 
>>> to myself "never again!" 
>>> [image: Cheviot Kicker.JPG]
>>>
>>> But then came the Platypus for my wife and I just couldn't help myself
>>> [image: Kickstand.jpg]
>>>
>>> In the end, my wife preferred a single leg version. You guessed it, I 
>>> found myself polishing another Greenfield.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:54:20 PM UTC-6 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
 Now that I've watched Leah's comparo video and kicked my kickstand a 
 few times I'm surprised how much rattle the PDW shows. My Pletscher 
 Touring 
 and the swoopy-looking Pletscher make the same sounds, I'd return the PDW. 
 I'm Team Swoopy! 

 On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:37:57 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Of course we all understand.  I don't mind the looks of the new one 
> and would be willing to try it but then you said it rattled.  i don't 
> like 
> a noisy bike.  I don't mind something a little weird looking if it's more 
> functional.  Does it at least work well?  Change is hard when you loved 
> what you had and just want that but it did break so you do want better.  
> But the new one should work better and look better too.  Can't wait to 
> see 
> pictures of what you decide.  
>
> Along the same lines, I put on a new seat post and no one will ever 
> know the difference but it bugs me that it doesn't look the same.  So I 
> know how you feel.  It's a problem we all can relate to.
>
>
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 10:03:21 PM UTC-5 JW wrote:
>
>> I have full faith you can swap the new kickstand on when it arrives, 
>> no reason to outsource that labor with your newfound bike mechanic 
>> skills!
>>
>> Jared
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 6:43:45 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>> Ding! wrote:
>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Kim Hetzel]

Very selfish of the bike mechanic to do so over Leah wanted.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Wed, Mar 1, 2023, 11:02 AM Joe Bernard  wrote:

>
> Yes, I'm also annoyed that the shop guy - a person she's interacted with
> several times - got the kickstand he liked and popped it on there without
> asking her. That's weird.
> On Wednesday, March 1, 2023 at 8:04:46 AM UTC-8 eric.j...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Sorry to hear you did not get the kickstand you asked for. Maybe you want
>> to go back to that shop and ask them to replace the current kickstand with
>> the one you originally asked for? Or maybe you've had enough of that shop
>> already.
>>
>> No one else thinks it's a bit out of line for the shop to use the
>> kickstand they wanted vs. the one Leah wanted?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 8:26 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
>> jonasa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You’ll forgive me for this unusual thread, I know you will. You will be
>>> compassionate to your RivSister who is yearning for spring after a Michigan
>>> winter, and if she can’t ride the bikes she will talk about the bikes.
>>>
>>> I love my Rivendells. I used to hate changing anything about them - if I
>>> wore something out like brake pads or tires - I would sometimes weep about
>>> it in the parking lot of the bike shop. “It will never be the SAME!” I’d
>>> think. These poor coping skills came after wearing my Betty Foy tires to
>>> threads. The mechanic told me he’d have to get me something else for tires
>>> because he didn’t have that kind. Then he called me and told my I’d
>>> actually need a whole new WHEEL because my rim was cracked. He explained he
>>> would have to build one. After a week in that shop, my Betty was returned
>>> to me. I got a flat on my first ride. I went howling back to the shop - it
>>> was something about rim tape and it was an easy fix. But I had developed a
>>> distrust and a distaste for messing with essentials on my bikes.
>>>
>>> I’ve mostly gotten over this. Especially now that I know about upgrades
>>> and how happy they can make you. But some things just shouldn’t need to be
>>> upgraded. Some things are so familiar that when they go missing or get
>>> replaced it’s intolerable.
>>>
>>> Kickstands.
>>>
>>> My Greenfield kickstand on the raspberry Platy inexplicably snapped in
>>> the back of my van en route to the Philly Bike Expo. A local shop replaced
>>> that kickstand with the same model (joy and rapture!) but cut it a hair too
>>> short. Was it going to tip over? No. BUT IT WASN’T THE SAME, I wailed in my
>>> head. I didn’t like the new lean it gave the bike. I wanted things the way
>>> they used to be. I decided I would spring for yet another kickstand and
>>> hope it would be right.
>>>
>>> I took my Platy to my local shop and explained about the kickstand. I
>>> also brought them one of Rivendell’s new shiny rear racks to be fit to my
>>> bike. I may take that bike on a RivSister Tour this summer and needed a
>>> heavy-duty rack (not the saddlebag support I have presently). The mechanic
>>> thought he knew what I wanted and ordered me a new kickstand that he
>>> thought would be EVEN BETTER. He said this in email, so I did not get a
>>> vote. I picked up the bike today. The rear rack was expertly fitted. The
>>> kickstand…I know he meant well, but…
>>>
>>> But it wasn’t the SAME.
>>>
>>> It’s this foreign thing on my bike. Chunky and stout. It’s a Portland
>>> Design Works stand; this one, I think:
>>> https://ridepdw.com/products/power-stance-kickstand
>>>
>>> I haven’t gotten used to it. It’s been 4 hours. I don’t know if I can
>>> get used to it. This is my club ride bike and that kickstand is…a lot. The
>>> rack will get switched back - I just wanted the new one ready for plug and
>>> play for a summer tour. But what should I do about that kickstand?
>>>
>>> I could buy the one that is on my mermaid Platy. I think I want to be
>>> done with the kickstands that you have to cut to size. I’m liking that this
>>> one is adjustable.
>>>
>>> Is it as horrible as I think? I think it’s worse in real life than the
>>> photos show. Also, it’s dark and I had to alter these photos a lot so you
>>> could see well enough. Colors will be distorted. Anyway, I’m sending pics
>>> in the following post…
>>>
>>> Who will help their RivSister? Who can understand her peculiar brand of
&g

Re: [RBW] Re: Pedal Question

[Kim Hetzel]

Luke,

I hope the Monarch pedals and the extension wings work out for you with 
your large feet. My Gamma/Monarch silver pedals; bought mine online from 
Modern Bike, with the pedal spikes from Rivendell have been working out 
very well for me on my Clem. They feel very solid and firm under my shoes; 
10.5 with a wider surface area. Happy !

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.


On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:54:16 AM UTC-8 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Jason – I’m switching to the Monarch with the added platform this week. 
> I’ve been running Suntour XCii pedals while wearing support free Vans 
> tennis shoes and my biggest gripe has been my feet kinda hanging off. I 
> have not had any discomfort, even with 80 mile rides. I believe my issues 
> mostly stem from having large feet (15.5) and always wanting for more of a 
> platform. 
>
> On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 10:31:24 AM UTC-8 pi...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I've found that the stiffer the soles of the shoes, the better pedaling 
>> feels and if the shoe is too flexy you'll get hotspots or foot pain. So I 
>> don't think switching pedals will help but switching shoes might.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 9:55 AM Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>>> My instinct is that has a lot more to do with the shoes, ie not well 
>>> supported arches maybe?  I found that long pedals like the MKS Monarch or 
>>> the Bubbly were a gamechanger for foot comfort vs. shorter flat pedals, but 
>>> probably because I am always riding in shoes that are objectively too soft 
>>> for long distance riding. The Bubbly isn't the grippiest pedal, because it 
>>> has no pins, but it's very grippy for a non-pinned and is easily the most 
>>> comfortable pedal I've ridden  
>>>
>>> On Sunday, 26 February 2023 at 22:36:55 UTC-8 swar...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Since it seems like people here are pretty experienced with flat pedals 
>>>> I'll ask a question.
>>>> I ride flats all the time, but I find that on especially long rides 
>>>> (100+ mi) or if I'm putting out too much power (like straining up a hill) 
>>>> I 
>>>> start to get foot pain.
>>>> Does anyone have good recommendations for flat pedals that are better 
>>>> on the feet (I'm a US 10.5 shoe size) - or advice for avoiding foot 
>>>> cramping or pain?
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 10:05 PM Luke Hendrickson <
>>>> phendr...@paulpath.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Platforms > clipless IMO. I’ve ridden both and like less hassle and 
>>>>> fewer impediments to hopping on a bike. Should you not wish to listen to 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> stranger on the Internet and wish to go full steam ahead, I suggest SPDs 
>>>>> especially since, were one to break out on the road, replacement cleats 
>>>>> or 
>>>>> screws are readily available at most LBSs. Many other clipless pedal 
>>>>> options are not. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 11:46:09 AM UTC-8 Josiah Anderson 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Ted, clipless pedals are not useful for most of the 
>>>>>> riding I do. That riding consists of commuting, trail riding, long and 
>>>>>> fast-ish road rides, and both paved and off-road touring. The only time 
>>>>>> I 
>>>>>> still use clipless pedals is for racing (which I do just a little of); 
>>>>>> platforms are much better the rest of the time. Maybe I don't care about 
>>>>>> foot attachment as much as some people, considering that I'm also a 
>>>>>> telemark skier, but I think having your foot solidly attached is 
>>>>>> overrated. 
>>>>>> I think a lot of the time people do it because they feel like they have 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> or it's what everyone else is doing, even when there's not a good reason 
>>>>>> to- that was me for years before I realized how good flat pedals are. 
>>>>>> Getting a nice pair of pedals helped too- I got a good deal on some thin 
>>>>>> Crank Brothers platforms with good spikes and nice bearings and they 
>>>>>> made 
>>>>>> me like flat pedals a lot more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That being said, if you really want to try clipless pedals, I 
>>>>>> recommend Time ATACs. They're the only clipless pedals I've used for the 
>>>>>> last few years after moving away 

Re: [RBW] Hand-Wringing: Kickstand Edition

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Leah,

I am sorry to hear of your misgivings over your bicycle parts. 

If you are still not happy with your new kickstand, I would be more than 
happy to send you my single kickstand that came stock with my Clem Smith 
Jr. "L" bike for no cost to you. I have not intentions of using it. I have 
a double footed-Pletscher kickstand.

I will take a picture(s) of it and send them to you, if are interested.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Tuesday, February 28, 2023 at 6:31:56 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Oh, here is the new Rivendell rear rack, for those of you wondering how it 
> would mount. It clears the fender light, which is the problem I had with 
> the Nitto medium Big Back Rack.
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> On Feb 28, 2023, at 9:28 PM, Leah Peterson  wrote:
>
> 
> New stand:
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!  
> wrote:
>
> You’ll forgive me for this unusual thread, I know you will. You will be 
> compassionate to your RivSister who is yearning for spring after a Michigan 
> winter, and if she can’t ride the bikes she will talk about the bikes. 
>
> I love my Rivendells. I used to hate changing anything about them - if I 
> wore something out like brake pads or tires - I would sometimes weep about 
> it in the parking lot of the bike shop. “It will never be the SAME!” I’d 
> think. These poor coping skills came after wearing my Betty Foy tires to 
> threads. The mechanic told me he’d have to get me something else for tires 
> because he didn’t have that kind. Then he called me and told my I’d 
> actually need a whole new WHEEL because my rim was cracked. He explained he 
> would have to build one. After a week in that shop, my Betty was returned 
> to me. I got a flat on my first ride. I went howling back to the shop - it 
> was something about rim tape and it was an easy fix. But I had developed a 
> distrust and a distaste for messing with essentials on my bikes. 
>
> I’ve mostly gotten over this. Especially now that I know about upgrades 
> and how happy they can make you. But some things just shouldn’t need to be 
> upgraded. Some things are so familiar that when they go missing or get 
> replaced it’s intolerable.
>
> Kickstands.
>
> My Greenfield kickstand on the raspberry Platy inexplicably snapped in the 
> back of my van en route to the Philly Bike Expo. A local shop replaced that 
> kickstand with the same model (joy and rapture!) but cut it a hair too 
> short. Was it going to tip over? No. BUT IT WASN’T THE SAME, I wailed in my 
> head. I didn’t like the new lean it gave the bike. I wanted things the way 
> they used to be. I decided I would spring for yet another kickstand and 
> hope it would be right.
>
> I took my Platy to my local shop and explained about the kickstand. I also 
> brought them one of Rivendell’s new shiny rear racks to be fit to my bike. 
> I may take that bike on a RivSister Tour this summer and needed a 
> heavy-duty rack (not the saddlebag support I have presently). The mechanic 
> thought he knew what I wanted and ordered me a new kickstand that he 
> thought would be EVEN BETTER. He said this in email, so I did not get a 
> vote. I picked up the bike today. The rear rack was expertly fitted. The 
> kickstand…I know he meant well, but…
>
> But it wasn’t the SAME. 
>
> It’s this foreign thing on my bike. Chunky and stout. It’s a Portland 
> Design Works stand; this one, I think: 
> https://ridepdw.com/products/power-stance-kickstand
>
> I haven’t gotten used to it. It’s been 4 hours. I don’t know if I can get 
> used to it. This is my club ride bike and that kickstand is…a lot. The rack 
> will get switched back - I just wanted the new one ready for plug and play 
> for a summer tour. But what should I do about that kickstand? 
>
> I could buy the one that is on my mermaid Platy. I think I want to be done 
> with the kickstands that you have to cut to size. I’m liking that this one 
> is adjustable. 
>
> Is it as horrible as I think? I think it’s worse in real life than the 
> photos show. Also, it’s dark and I had to alter these photos a lot so you 
> could see well enough. Colors will be distorted. Anyway, I’m sending pics 
> in the following post…
>
> Who will help their RivSister? Who can understand her peculiar brand of 
> angst? Who has words of wisdom, or even constructive criticism? Who else is 
> nutty about small things that barely matter? Who has been crying in bike 
> shop parking lots and hand-wringing in the garage, staring at these 
> foreign, new, transplanted parts?
>
> Pics forthcoming…
> Leah
>
>
>
>
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[RBW] Re: Fitting the Hunqapillar for touring

[Kim Hetzel]

Sadly, I have never done any bicycle touring with racks and bags. However, 
my suggestions would be go with Tubus racks: 
https://www.tubus.com/en/products/
or with Old Man Mountain: https://oldmanmountain.com/
paired with Arkel panniers: https://arkel.ca/

A long time ago, I was planning a bike tour with my daughter back in 2011. 
However, she injured her knee and in turn we had to cancel the trip.  I 
bought one set of  used Old Man Mountain racks and two used sets of Arkel 
f/r panniers. The Arkel GT-52 for the rear and the Arkel GT-18 for the 
front. I sold my f/r pair on eBay along time ago, However, I still have the 
Old Man Mountain f/r racks and my daughter's pair of GT-52 panniers. I 
washed them the other day. They look brand new. 

I can proclaim that the Arkel panniers are very well made with lots of 
compartments with heavy duty zippers and waterproof covers. 

Unfortunately, I am unable to share any experience or knowledge of how my 
Old Man Mountain racks hold up under load conditions. 

Dreaming of one day bike camping with my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike,

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

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[RBW] Re: WTB Gus / Susie / Clem Frameset (56-59)

[Kim Hetzel]

https://spokane.craigslist.org/bik/d/spokane-rivendell-susie-wolbis-56/7590872334.html

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 11:12:24 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> I can't figure out how to link it but scroll back a couple pages for 
> thread FS: Susie/Wolbis, it's a Dark Gold 56cm. Also listed on Ebay. 
>
> On Sunday, February 26, 2023 at 10:37:02 PM UTC-8 dylant...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Ya'll
>>
>> Trying to track down a Gus in 57, Susie in 56, or Clem L in 59. Open to 
>> any color. Ideally looking for a frame set only, but would be open to a 
>> whole bike. 
>>
>> Located in NYC, and can drive ~3 hours or so to pick up, if further, 
>> happy to cover packing / shipping.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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[RBW] Maps of European bicycle manufactures in Italy, France and now England

[Kim Hetzel]

 In my Reddit feed, I came across these maps through the r/vintage_bicycle 
sub-reddit site.
They can be purchased through www.corsaclassic.com . These are folded. You 
can take an iron and iron the creases out, then hang them on your wall. 

I bought all three maps; Italian, French and English for $48.00, with 
international shipping included. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

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[RBW] Re: Exploration: Make your own pump peg

[Kim Hetzel]

Yes, it is fun, Eric.

Kim.

On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 5:14:05 PM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nice, Kim! Fun to iterate the mods.
>
> On Friday, February 24, 2023 at 12:05:04 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> The first image is my recent results. The second image is my first idea.
>>
>> Kim. 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:03:37 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>>
>>> This evening I modified my existing frame pump bracket to something more 
>>> secure using a AFA umbrella frame pump holder and a metal screw-able band. 
>>> I used a cordless drill and a Dremmel power tool for cutting, sanding and 
>>> polishing the AFA umbrella frame pump holder.
>>>
>>> It turned out well. I am happy with the results.
>>>
>>> The first photo is my first idea. The second photo is my recent results.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 12:44:45 PM UTC-8 lconley wrote:
>>>
>>>> I started with a large rack strut from VO (thick stainless steel), 
>>>> straightened out the 90 deg bend a little, added my own 90 deg bend, 
>>>> drilled out the hole in the end, ground the end near the enlarged hole and 
>>>> put a 90+ deg twist in the end. Then added a water bottle cage bolt with 
>>>> Nitto spacer and nylock nut. Still doing small tweaks to perfect the fit 
>>>> between the seat stays:
>>>>
>>>> [image: Peg.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> [image: Pump s.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> Laing 
>>>> Delray Beach FL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Exploration: Make your own pump peg

[Kim Hetzel]

The first image is my recent results. The second image is my first idea.

Kim. 

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:03:37 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> This evening I modified my existing frame pump bracket to something more 
> secure using a AFA umbrella frame pump holder and a metal screw-able band. 
> I used a cordless drill and a Dremmel power tool for cutting, sanding and 
> polishing the AFA umbrella frame pump holder.
>
> It turned out well. I am happy with the results.
>
> The first photo is my first idea. The second photo is my recent results.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 12:44:45 PM UTC-8 lconley wrote:
>
>> I started with a large rack strut from VO (thick stainless steel), 
>> straightened out the 90 deg bend a little, added my own 90 deg bend, 
>> drilled out the hole in the end, ground the end near the enlarged hole and 
>> put a 90+ deg twist in the end. Then added a water bottle cage bolt with 
>> Nitto spacer and nylock nut. Still doing small tweaks to perfect the fit 
>> between the seat stays:
>>
>> [image: Peg.jpg]
>>
>> [image: Pump s.jpg]
>>
>> Laing 
>> Delray Beach FL
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom frame bag for Gus

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Brian,

That is why Laing's frame pump is inverted. I understand now.

I'm currently making custom frame pump peg for my Clem Smith Jr. "L" 
between the upper seat stays on the seat tube. I will post it later when I 
am finished and mounted it on my bike.

Thank-you,


On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:52:12 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Kim- the Gus pump peg is on the non-drive side chain stay, near the BB 
> cluster.
>
> On Feb 23, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Upon a closer look on the upper part of the seat tube between the seat 
> stays, I do not see a frame pump peg on Brian's Gus.
>
> Kim. 
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:40:11 AM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>
>> This custom made bag of Brian's would not also interfere with the pump 
>> pegs on the backside of the seat tube ( I did not know that the Gus Boots 
>> Willsen had a pump peg behind the seat tube. ), but also having a frame 
>> pump mounted there. Furthermore, I think the bag might interfere with 
>> having a rear fender between the chain stays and kickstand plate ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:17:48 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Laing, in this case with this design it most likely would interfere. I 
>>> specifically wanted this bag to carry my pump and all my tire tools so it 
>>> serves its purpose in that respect. I use a Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HV, 
>>> and it’s small enough to fit in a variety of my bike bags. I just like the 
>>> idea of having all that stuff in one designated space.
>>>
>>> - B
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2023, at 12:00 PM, lconley  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does the bag interfere with mounting a pump on the pump peg?
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 10:15:24 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Photos here:
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7
>>>>
>>>> Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on 
>>>> having a custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the 
>>>> frame. I guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just 
>>>> too much usable space there to not take advantage of it.
>>>>
>>>> I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs 
>>>> in the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and 
>>>> he enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check 
>>>> out the photos!
>>>>
>>>> I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping 
>>>> for. I mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare 
>>>> tube, puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a 
>>>> little room to spare.
>>>>
>>>> If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and 
>>>> handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!
>>>>
>>>> -Brian
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom frame bag for Gus

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Brian,

That is why Laing's frame pump is inverted. I understand now. 

I'm currently making custom frame pump for my Clem Smith Jr. "L" between 
the upper seat stays. I will post it later when I am finished and mounted 
it on my bike. 

Thank-you,

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:52:12 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Kim- the Gus pump peg is on the non-drive side chain stay, near the BB 
> cluster.
>
> On Feb 23, 2023, at 12:47 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Upon a closer look on the upper part of the seat tube between the seat 
> stays, I do not see a frame pump peg on Brian's Gus.
>
> Kim. 
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:40:11 AM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>
>> This custom made bag of Brian's would not also interfere with the pump 
>> pegs on the backside of the seat tube ( I did not know that the Gus Boots 
>> Willsen had a pump peg behind the seat tube. ), but also having a frame 
>> pump mounted there. Furthermore, I think the bag might interfere with 
>> having a rear fender between the chain stays and kickstand plate ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
>> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:17:48 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Laing, in this case with this design it most likely would interfere. I 
>>> specifically wanted this bag to carry my pump and all my tire tools so it 
>>> serves its purpose in that respect. I use a Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HV, 
>>> and it’s small enough to fit in a variety of my bike bags. I just like the 
>>> idea of having all that stuff in one designated space.
>>>
>>> - B
>>>
>>> On Feb 23, 2023, at 12:00 PM, lconley  wrote:
>>>
>>> Does the bag interfere with mounting a pump on the pump peg?
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 10:15:24 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Photos here:
>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7
>>>>
>>>> Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on 
>>>> having a custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the 
>>>> frame. I guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just 
>>>> too much usable space there to not take advantage of it.
>>>>
>>>> I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs 
>>>> in the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and 
>>>> he enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check 
>>>> out the photos!
>>>>
>>>> I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping 
>>>> for. I mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare 
>>>> tube, puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a 
>>>> little room to spare.
>>>>
>>>> If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and 
>>>> handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!
>>>>
>>>> -Brian
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom frame bag for Gus

[Kim Hetzel]

Upon a closer look on the upper part of the seat tube between the seat 
stays, I do not see a frame pump peg on Brian's Gus.

Kim. 

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:40:11 AM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> This custom made bag of Brian's would not also interfere with the pump 
> pegs on the backside of the seat tube ( I did not know that the Gus Boots 
> Willsen had a pump peg behind the seat tube. ), but also having a frame 
> pump mounted there. Furthermore, I think the bag might interfere with 
> having a rear fender between the chain stays and kickstand plate ?
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
> On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:17:48 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Laing, in this case with this design it most likely would interfere. I 
>> specifically wanted this bag to carry my pump and all my tire tools so it 
>> serves its purpose in that respect. I use a Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HV, 
>> and it’s small enough to fit in a variety of my bike bags. I just like the 
>> idea of having all that stuff in one designated space.
>>
>> - B
>>
>> On Feb 23, 2023, at 12:00 PM, lconley  wrote:
>>
>> Does the bag interfere with mounting a pump on the pump peg?
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>> Laing
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 10:15:24 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Photos here:
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7
>>>
>>> Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on having 
>>> a custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the frame. I 
>>> guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just too much 
>>> usable space there to not take advantage of it.
>>>
>>> I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs in 
>>> the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and he 
>>> enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check out 
>>> the photos!
>>>
>>> I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping 
>>> for. I mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare 
>>> tube, puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a 
>>> little room to spare.
>>>
>>> If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and 
>>> handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!
>>>
>>> -Brian
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Custom frame bag for Gus

[Kim Hetzel]

This custom made bag of Brian's would not also interfere with the pump pegs 
on the backside of the seat tube ( I did not know that the Gus Boots 
Willsen had a pump peg behind the seat tube. ), but also having a frame 
pump mounted there. Furthermore, I think the bag might interfere with 
having a rear fender between the chain stays and kickstand plate ?

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Thursday, February 23, 2023 at 9:17:48 AM UTC-8 brok...@gmail.com wrote:

> Laing, in this case with this design it most likely would interfere. I 
> specifically wanted this bag to carry my pump and all my tire tools so it 
> serves its purpose in that respect. I use a Lezyne Micro Floor Drive HV, 
> and it’s small enough to fit in a variety of my bike bags. I just like the 
> idea of having all that stuff in one designated space.
>
> - B
>
> On Feb 23, 2023, at 12:00 PM, lconley  wrote:
>
> Does the bag interfere with mounting a pump on the pump peg?
>
> 
>
>
> 
>
>
> Laing
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 10:15:24 AM UTC-5 brok...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Photos here:
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7
>>
>> Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on having 
>> a custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the frame. I 
>> guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just too much 
>> usable space there to not take advantage of it.
>>
>> I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs in 
>> the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and he 
>> enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check out 
>> the photos!
>>
>> I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping for. 
>> I mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare tube, 
>> puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a little 
>> room to spare.
>>
>> If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and 
>> handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!
>>
>> -Brian
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Re: [RBW] Custom frame bag for Gus

[Kim Hetzel]

Very Cool ! Brian.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 7:26:31 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> Nice Brian!
>
> On Wednesday, February 22, 2023 at 10:21:05 AM UTC-5 Curtis wrote:
>
>> Great looking bag and smart!
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 7:15 AM Brian Turner  wrote:
>>
>>> Photos here:
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/Jr243dfSx6YUyDiL7
>>>
>>> Ever since taking ownership of my Gus last Fall, I had designs on having 
>>> a custom frame bag made for the space behind the seat tube on the frame. I 
>>> guess it's the bikepacker in me, but it seems like there's just too much 
>>> usable space there to not take advantage of it.
>>>
>>> I reached out to Andy Schmidt from Lords Luggage in Portland (he runs in 
>>> the same bike scene circles as Rivelo John and Bantam Cycles Bob), and he 
>>> enthusiastically accepted the challenge. Click the link above to check out 
>>> the photos!
>>>
>>> I'm super pleased with the results... it's exactly what I was hoping 
>>> for. I mostly keep my tire repair stuff in it; pump, pressure gauge, spare 
>>> tube, puncture repair kit, 2 oz bottle of sealant, shop rag, and still a 
>>> little room to spare.
>>>
>>> If you're looking for a custom bag like this, or other bike bags and 
>>> handmade luggage, get in touch with Andy! Thanks for looking!
>>>
>>> -Brian
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Ride Report: The Cabo Loop, BSC

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi John,

Thank-you for letting me know.

As I read and saw your pictures, I visualized myself riding my Clem Smith
Jr. "L" bike with my wide tires navigating through all the varied terrain
and having a great adventure in a world with very few people around. I
would be happy eating authentic Mexican food.

In my dreamtime,
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Sun, Feb 19, 2023 at 10:00 PM John Rinker  wrote:

> Hey Kim,
>
> Daytime temps were around 25-27C (77-80F)  A couple of days we had very
> nice cloud cover which kept things cooler while climbing in the mountains;
> very nice, indeed.
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 8:05:32 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Wonderful getaway ride report !  Thank-you for sharing.
>> What was the day time high temperatures like ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 7:41:09 PM UTC-8 Sky Coulter wrote:
>>
>>> Awesome! Thanks for the write up. That looks like a great get away.
>>>
>>> On Feb 19, 2023, at 4:42 PM, John Rinker  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> A friend and I recently hung up our skis here in BC for a few weeks and
>>> headed south to Baja Sur to ride the Cape (Cabo) Loop that completes the
>>> popular Baja Divide route. The loop is roughly 450km and takes in the
>>> Pacific Ocean, the* Sierra La Lagunas*, and beautiful beaches along the
>>> Sea of Cortez. The landscape in both the mountains and along the coasts is
>>> a rich and diverse desert ecosystem. In addition to a variety of birds, we
>>> saw tons (literally) of humpback whales and mobula rays along the eastern
>>> coastline. The route is somewhat challenging with some stiff climbing,
>>> tire-sucking sand, and a few technical rock-dancing sections. Mostly, it’s
>>> a stunner ride that offers warm weather mid-Winter and wild camping in
>>> beautiful spots both in the mountains and on relatively empty beaches.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Shortly after landing in San Jose del Cabo, we put our bikes together
>>> and headed toward the Baja brewery in the Old Town to carbo load with
>>> Peyote IPAs and* tacos de pescado* for our departure the following
>>> morning. We chose to complete the loop in a clockwise manner as, after the
>>> busy-ness of San Jose, we were itching for the solitude of the mountains.
>>> Climbing into the *Sierra La Lagunas*, we were pleasantly surprised by
>>> the prevalence of running water in many of the arroyos (Feb 2023). At the
>>> height of land, we camped in a clearing under a mature Mexican white oak
>>> surrounded by organ pipe cactus and Torchwood trees.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Our ride down the other side the next morning was a fast descent through
>>> sandy curves as we headed towards *Todos Santos* and the Pacific Coast.
>>> Again, there was plenty of water flowing through this verdant, desert
>>> landscape. *Todos Santos* is a historical Mexican town fast on its way
>>> to becoming a gentrified destination for North Americans seeking…well,
>>> something other than America north of the Mexican border. North of town on
>>> the Playa Los Mangos, we camped in the deserted dunes as the Pacific Ocean
>>> was anything but. Thunderous waves battered the shoreline throughout the
>>> night. The morning light gave us our first glimpse of the migrating whales
>>> and the squadrons of pelicans gliding centimeters about the rolling, blue
>>> sea.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> After a brief stop in a bustling *Todos Santos* we were headed back
>>> into the quiet of the mountains for some very challenging riding in and out
>>> of arroyos. Sections of deep sand had me pushing my Hunq with her
>>> ill-advised, less-than-3-inch tires (highly discouraged by the bike packing
>>> community, but just fine by me). The climbs out of the arroyos were as
>>> steep and rocky as the descents into them, and the surrounding desert
>>> pulsed with the life of such a variety of plants and cacti. The landscape
>>> here seemed as full as the thick forests back home in BC, albeit with more
>>> pokey things.
>>>
>>>
>>> After camping at an abandoned rancho that night, we set our sights on
>>> arriving at the mountain hamlet of *El Triunfo*, an old silver-mining
>>> town, for a well-earned meal. Ochre ribbons of flow-y hard pack eventually
>>> dropped us onto the highway and a gentle climb to town. Carlota’s, a family
>>> restaurant just out the other side of 

Re: [RBW] Ride Report: The Cabo Loop, BSC

[Kim Hetzel]

Wonderful getaway ride report !  Thank-you for sharing.
What was the day time high temperatures like ?

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Sunday, February 19, 2023 at 7:41:09 PM UTC-8 Sky Coulter wrote:

> Awesome! Thanks for the write up. That looks like a great get away.
>
> On Feb 19, 2023, at 4:42 PM, John Rinker  wrote:
>
>  
>
> A friend and I recently hung up our skis here in BC for a few weeks and 
> headed south to Baja Sur to ride the Cape (Cabo) Loop that completes the 
> popular Baja Divide route. The loop is roughly 450km and takes in the 
> Pacific Ocean, the* Sierra La Lagunas*, and beautiful beaches along the 
> Sea of Cortez. The landscape in both the mountains and along the coasts is 
> a rich and diverse desert ecosystem. In addition to a variety of birds, we 
> saw tons (literally) of humpback whales and mobula rays along the eastern 
> coastline. The route is somewhat challenging with some stiff climbing, 
> tire-sucking sand, and a few technical rock-dancing sections. Mostly, it’s 
> a stunner ride that offers warm weather mid-Winter and wild camping in 
> beautiful spots both in the mountains and on relatively empty beaches. 
>
> 
>
> Shortly after landing in San Jose del Cabo, we put our bikes together and 
> headed toward the Baja brewery in the Old Town to carbo load with Peyote 
> IPAs and* tacos de pescado* for our departure the following morning. We 
> chose to complete the loop in a clockwise manner as, after the busy-ness of 
> San Jose, we were itching for the solitude of the mountains. Climbing into 
> the *Sierra La Lagunas*, we were pleasantly surprised by the prevalence 
> of running water in many of the arroyos (Feb 2023). At the height of land, 
> we camped in a clearing under a mature Mexican white oak surrounded by 
> organ pipe cactus and Torchwood trees. 
>
> 
>
> Our ride down the other side the next morning was a fast descent through 
> sandy curves as we headed towards *Todos Santos* and the Pacific Coast. 
> Again, there was plenty of water flowing through this verdant, desert 
> landscape. *Todos Santos* is a historical Mexican town fast on its way to 
> becoming a gentrified destination for North Americans seeking…well, 
> something other than America north of the Mexican border. North of town on 
> the Playa Los Mangos, we camped in the deserted dunes as the Pacific Ocean 
> was anything but. Thunderous waves battered the shoreline throughout the 
> night. The morning light gave us our first glimpse of the migrating whales 
> and the squadrons of pelicans gliding centimeters about the rolling, blue 
> sea. 
>
> 
>
> After a brief stop in a bustling *Todos Santos* we were headed back into 
> the quiet of the mountains for some very challenging riding in and out of 
> arroyos. Sections of deep sand had me pushing my Hunq with her ill-advised, 
> less-than-3-inch tires (highly discouraged by the bike packing community, 
> but just fine by me). The climbs out of the arroyos were as steep and rocky 
> as the descents into them, and the surrounding desert pulsed with the life 
> of such a variety of plants and cacti. The landscape here seemed as full as 
> the thick forests back home in BC, albeit with more pokey things.
>
>
> After camping at an abandoned rancho that night, we set our sights on 
> arriving at the mountain hamlet of *El Triunfo*, an old silver-mining 
> town, for a well-earned meal. Ochre ribbons of flow-y hard pack eventually 
> dropped us onto the highway and a gentle climb to town. Carlota’s, a family 
> restaurant just out the other side of town, delivered a delightful meal. 
> After fresh orange juice and even fresher tortillas, we were ready and 
> fuelled for a cruise along the highway before our turn back into the 
> mountains at *San Blas*. That evening we pushed our bikes off the road, 
> through the forest of cacti, mesquite, and torchwood, and camped among 
> piles of granite boulders- wild camping at its finest. 
>
> 
>
> Another morning of climbing in and out of arroyos on fine hard pack 
> brought us to the mountain’s crest where we caught our first glimpse of the 
> Sea of Cortez. A quick descent, a right turn and we were flying down the 
> highway towards La Ventana. We rode through the town unable to see the sea 
> past the dust, cars, and development until we reached the more remote beach 
> of *Agua Caliente* where we soaked in natural hot pools on the rocky 
> beach. 
>
> 
>
> The next morning, we rode a beautiful and extensive single-track trail 
> system through a forest of *Cardon* (Elephant) cacti on our way to the 
> wide expanse of undeveloped beaches southeast of La Ventana. After a fine 
> swim in the clear, jade waters in Bahia La Ventana, we found ourselves off 
> track and w

[RBW] FS: Shimano RD - M951 and Altus RD-M370-SGS - 9 speed rear derailleurs

[Kim Hetzel]

I have a used Shimano M951 9 speed rear derailleur that I am not using.  It 
works well and not been used a lot.
$40.00, plus shipping
I, also have a used Shimano Altus RD-M370-SGS 9 speed rear derailleur. This 
was the stock rear derailleur that was on my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle. 
Condition is good and worked well before I removed it.
$25.00, plus shipping
Buy both for $55.00, plus shipping
Payment via Paypal.
More pictures furnished upon request.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.


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[RBW] Re: Cima Coppi Cycle Wear C.B.

[Kim Hetzel]

I thank-you for your feedback and comments about Cima Coppi Wear C. B. wool 
jerseys. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 9:42:29 AM UTC-8 Jeffrey Arita wrote:

> We do not (unfortunately) have any experience with their cycling shorts.  
> However, my wife and I each own a pair of their wool jerseys and they have 
> held up very well.  The Merino wool is very comfortable with excellent 
> construction and attention to detail.  We received them in early 2019 and 
> have worn them for many brevets.
>
> Jeff & Lori Arita
> Claremont, CA
>
>
>
> On Saturday, February 4, 2023 at 6:07:32 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Has anyone ordered any product, namely cycling shorts through this 
>> company located in Oviedo, Spain ?
>>
>> https://cimacoppi.cc/en/content/9-who-we-are
>>
>> If so, looking for any feedback for consideration of purchasing some 
>> cycling shorts.
>>
>> Thank-you.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Do your MKS Monarch pedals have spiked wings yet ?

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Garth,

I just want to say that with the pedal extensions I felt very confident in 
standing up and out of my saddle while riding, because of the more of the 
surface area on the pedals. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA



On Sunday, February 12, 2023 at 5:13:32 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> H Garth,
>
> You are more than welcome. 
>
> I am glad to hear that the measurements exceeded your expectations and are 
> inviting you to consider purchasing both a pair of pedals and extensions. I 
> bought my pedals through Modern Bike:
> https://www.modernbike.com/mks-gamma-platform-pedals-9-16-raw-silver
>
> The pedal extensions here:
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/mks-monarch-extension
>
> The pedal spikes here:
> https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedal-spikes-32
>
> If you have access to a drill press, it would greatly help drilling holes 
> into the pedals more vertically, than when I did it by hand with a cordless 
> drill. Mine were not completely straight.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 2:02 AM Garth  wrote:
>
>> Thank you Kim !  That makes for very large platform, wider than I had 
>> thought it would be as the stock pedal platforms are only listed as 78mm 
>> wide. 
>>
>> I'm certainly considering getting both pedal and extension. I have 
>> multiple pairs of VP Vice which I have no issue with, but I'd like to have 
>> some variety to choose from, for the fun of it ! 
>> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:53:09 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Garth,
>>>
>>> Here are your requested measurements of my MKS Monarch platform pedal 
>>> with extensions:
>>>
>>> *front to back: 5 1/8"
>>> *side to side edges: 5 3/4"
>>> *distance outside of crank arm to the outside of the pedal body: 3/4"
>>> *thickness of the pedal with spikes included: 7/8"
>>>
>>> Let know, if I left any measurement out. I think I covered it.
>>>
>>> Are you thinking about buying a pair with extensions for your bike ?
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 4:27:05 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Kim, could you please measure if possible the actual platform width 
>>>> and length overall(front to back, side to side platform edges),  plus the 
>>>> distance from the outside crank arm to the outside of the body ?  Also the 
>>>> overall body thickness, spikes to included ? 
>>>>
>>>> Thank you !
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Do your MKS Monarch pedals have spiked wings yet ?

[Kim Hetzel]

H Garth,

You are more than welcome.

I am glad to hear that the measurements exceeded your expectations and are
inviting you to consider purchasing both a pair of pedals and extensions. I
bought my pedals through Modern Bike:
https://www.modernbike.com/mks-gamma-platform-pedals-9-16-raw-silver

The pedal extensions here:
https://www.rivbike.com/products/mks-monarch-extension

The pedal spikes here:
https://www.rivbike.com/products/pedal-spikes-32

If you have access to a drill press, it would greatly help drilling holes
into the pedals more vertically, than when I did it by hand with a cordless
drill. Mine were not completely straight.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Sun, Feb 12, 2023 at 2:02 AM Garth  wrote:

> Thank you Kim !  That makes for very large platform, wider than I had
> thought it would be as the stock pedal platforms are only listed as 78mm
> wide.
>
> I'm certainly considering getting both pedal and extension. I have
> multiple pairs of VP Vice which I have no issue with, but I'd like to have
> some variety to choose from, for the fun of it !
> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 1:53:09 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Garth,
>>
>> Here are your requested measurements of my MKS Monarch platform pedal
>> with extensions:
>>
>> *front to back: 5 1/8"
>> *side to side edges: 5 3/4"
>> *distance outside of crank arm to the outside of the pedal body: 3/4"
>> *thickness of the pedal with spikes included: 7/8"
>>
>> Let know, if I left any measurement out. I think I covered it.
>>
>> Are you thinking about buying a pair with extensions for your bike ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 4:27:05 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Kim, could you please measure if possible the actual platform width
>>> and length overall(front to back, side to side platform edges),  plus the
>>> distance from the outside crank arm to the outside of the body ?  Also the
>>> overall body thickness, spikes to included ?
>>>
>>> Thank you !
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Do your MKS Monarch pedals have spiked wings yet ?

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Garth,

Here are your requested measurements of my MKS Monarch platform pedal with 
extensions:

*front to back: 5 1/8"
*side to side edges: 5 3/4"
*distance outside of crank arm to the outside of the pedal body: 3/4"
*thickness of the pedal with spikes included: 7/8"

Let know, if I left any measurement out. I think I covered it.

Are you thinking about buying a pair with extensions for your bike ?

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.


On Saturday, February 11, 2023 at 4:27:05 AM UTC-8 Garth wrote:

> Hey Kim, could you please measure if possible the actual platform width 
> and length overall(front to back, side to side platform edges),  plus the 
> distance from the outside crank arm to the outside of the body ?  Also the 
> overall body thickness, spikes to included ? 
>
> Thank you !
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus questions

[Kim Hetzel]

Hey Doug,

Let us know what decision you arrive at from all the information that you
were given.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Fri, Feb 10, 2023 at 6:39 PM dougP  wrote:

> Wow! Miss a day & miss a lot. I'll try to answer / comment in order:
>
> Current stem is an 80 mm dirt drop & Map Ahearne bars in 660 mm width. The
> Atlantis has a 58 cm top tube.
>
> The issue of mounting / dismounting is helpful. That's my current problem.
> I have to do this gymnastic of leaning the bike WY over to get my leg
> over the saddle. I'm unbalanced at that point. Never thought about
> Roberta's method but can see myself doing the trip thru instead of the step
> thru. Ponder, ponder.
>
> Roberta, that's an impressive collection of Rivendells. The fact you have
> the 55 Platy & 52 Clem L is interesting. More options are better.
>
> Thanks for the links to the websites. I've checked whatbars a few times in
> my handlebar odyssey & will look at the frame one.
>
> Thanks to all for your help & suggestions.
>
> doug
>
>
> On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 12:20:07 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I enjoy both of these websites but wish they had drawings for Clem & Gus.
>> I’ve not looked for other Riv models. Bikeinsights of course is the one I
>> am speaking of.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Feb 10, 2023, at 8:42 AM, esoterica etc 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> >> On Feb 10, 2023, at 07:33, Roberta  wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There is a website ( but I forgot the name ) that superimposes bike
>> geometries over each other for comparison, but there’s nothing like a test
>> ride. There’s a similar site for handlebars.
>> >>
>> >> Roberta
>> >> Philadelphia
>> >
>> > The website Roberta is thinking of that superimposes bikes over each
>> other is bikeinsights.com, and the handlebar one is whatbars.com- both
>> excellent resources for comparison.
>> >
>> > ~Mark
>> > Raleigh, NC
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Re: [RBW] Re: any bike photos of bikes with the Dia compe 980's?

[Kim Hetzel]

I forgot to mention that I, too, have the Dia-Compe levers paired with the
980 brakes. No complaints.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Thu, Feb 9, 2023, 7:57 PM Ryan  wrote:

> Paired very nicely with those Dia-Compe levers, which I think are really
> nice...as nice as Pauls IMO.
>
> I know, I know, Paul Components is a US company. I had their Racers
> installed on my mixte and I could've gone all in and got leversbut
> dammit, the dia-compes are nice...and reasonably priced.Just sayin'
>
> On Thursday, February 9, 2023 at 9:16:07 PM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Jeff,
>>
>> Here are some photos of my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bike with Dia-Compe 980
>> cantilever brakes. Let me know, if you need more pictures.
>> My bike came with V-brakes. I took them off and replaced them with the
>> 980s'.
>> I like them.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
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[RBW] Re: Clem for bikepacking?

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Vincent,

What size tires and fenders are you running on your Clem "H" in your 
pictures ?

Thank-you,
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:42:42 AM UTC-8 Vincent Tamer wrote:

> I own a Clem H but do not utilize the frame space at all for a frame bag. 
> I've bikepacked several times and its great! I got lucky and found a 
> company blowing out their sackville bags so I stocked up :) Heres a few 
> shots from our trips.
> [image: IMG_1785.JPG][image: IMG_1629.JPG]
>
> On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 at 12:04:11 PM UTC-8 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Clem L works for birdseedpacking (20lb bag) with a Pletscher rack :) 
>>
>> mike
>>
>> On Monday, January 10, 2022 at 9:47:22 PM UTC-6 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Wondering if there are any Clem L owners here using their rig  for 
>>> bikepacking excursions? Seems like an ideal platform in spite of having no 
>>> space for a framebag nor fork mounted braze ons for anything or similar 
>>> cages. I am thinking of front and rear mimimalist racks from Tumbleweed as 
>>> they include the anything / manything cage mounts. Curious what others 
>>> might be doing?
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Platypus questions

[Kim Hetzel]

Richard...

I highly praise your words of explaining your love and appreciation for 
your 52cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle from the design to the specific 
details that makes the Clems' so wonderful to ride. 

Thank-you.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 
... it is time to go ride tomorrow.


On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 11:24:21 AM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I am no bike geometry expert & I’ve really only ridden one Rivendell, my 
> size 52 Clem “L”. I am not counting my size 57 Gus as I’ve only ridden it 
> (sans brakes) down the street to check fit. It has a lot in common with the 
> Clem, obviously.
> I think there is a lot more to this design formula than designing around 
> really setback bars like the Bosco. I don’t think it is accidental that 
> these bikes feel so “roomy” and unbelievably comfortable. The long stays & 
> resulting wheelbase are a big part of the comfort but it’s the front end 
> that really gets my attention. That front wheel is WAY out there 
> eliminating any possibility of pedal overlap even with one’s feet (like 
> mine) slid forward to the mid foot position. The flat part of the bar is 
> also way out there especially on my bike with a 135 length stem. Of course 
> the extreme backsweep makes it all work but the end result is this 
> incredibly roomy cockpit. It’s one of my favorite things about these bikes 
> and it has ruined me for any bike that puts the bars & front wheel closer 
> to me. YRMV.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 8, 2023, at 12:30 PM, Johnny Alien  wrote:
>
> From what I have seen pretty much every Rivendell has a longer reach 
> these days vs the Toyo days because they are designed around sweptback 
> bars. Which I am always a little confused by because you want to get the 
> bars closer but you have to extend the reach through geometry or long stems 
> to do it. Seems like the end result is usually the same. But yeah...I would 
> bet the Platy has a longer reach than a Toyo Atlantis. I know my Clem L is 
> way out there. I keep a short stem on it with Toscos to get it where it 
> works for me.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 8, 2023 at 12:17:15 PM UTC-5 eric...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Doug — If you haven't yet I'd recommend calling Rivendell, someone 
>> there would be happy to talk to you about the differences in the frames. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 9:26:37 PM UTC-5 mma...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Doug! Although not platypuss, I have clem L in both 59cm and 52cm if 
>>> you want to take a test ride. Holler at me, I'm in the Valley.
>>> - Matt
>>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 5:08:01 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the response, Kim. Really, any Rivendell step thru is an 
>>>> option. I don't do any trail riding so the Platypus is sufficient & I'm 
>>>> guessing will have a softer ride than one of the more trail capable 
>>>> frames. 
>>>> A major factor will be what's available, and with Riv's current delivery 
>>>> program one has to be ready to make a decision & commit on short notice. 
>>>>
>>>> doug
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, February 7, 2023 at 6:44:22 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>>
>>>>> With the purchase of my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle, it was the best 
>>>>> option for me in choosing a bicycle with a step-through frame with an 
>>>>> upright riding position as a senior cyclist. Yes, I had trouble swinging 
>>>>> my 
>>>>> right leg over the back end of my previous bike, as well.  I have been 
>>>>> looking for these requirements in a bike for quite a few years.  
>>>>> Furthermore, I enjoy the Clem's capabilities as being a ATB. A very solid 
>>>>> and sure-footed bike. 
>>>>>
>>>>> The Clem maybe an option for you ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I love my Atlantis, but it's getting harder to swing the old leg over 
>>>>>> the saddle. Time to move on to a step thru. The Platypus looks like the 
>>>>>> best option for my riding, mostly short trips around town. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The 55 cm fits my PBH (84) & saddle height. What I'm interested in 
>>>>>> doing is comparing the geometry to my 58 cm Toyo Atl

[RBW] Re: Platypus questions

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Doug,

With the purchase of my Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle, it was the best option 
for me in choosing a bicycle with a step-through frame with an upright 
riding position as a senior cyclist. Yes, I had trouble swinging my right 
leg over the back end of my previous bike, as well.  I have been looking 
for these requirements in a bike for quite a few years.  Furthermore, I 
enjoy the Clem's capabilities as being a ATB. A very solid and sure-footed 
bike. 

The Clem maybe an option for you ?

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.


On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:44:54 PM UTC-8 dougP wrote:

> I love my Atlantis, but it's getting harder to swing the old leg over the 
> saddle. Time to move on to a step thru. The Platypus looks like the best 
> option for my riding, mostly short trips around town. 
>
> The 55 cm fits my PBH (84) & saddle height. What I'm interested in doing 
> is comparing the geometry to my 58 cm Toyo Atlantis. Specifically, I'm 
> curious about the distance of the seat from the bars. I seem to be 
> shrinking in my old age & the reach on the Atlantis is just a bit too far. 
> Not unridable but a noticeable stretch, even with a short stem & swept back 
> bars.
>
> Let me know if you may be of assistance. Be forewarned I'll probably think 
> of some more questions if this looks promising. It would be fantastic is 
> you're in southern California.
>
> Doug Peterson 
>  
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sparkly Purple Betty Foy For Sale

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Pam,

I'm sorry to hear that the Brooks B67S saddle I sold you isn't currently 
working out for you. I hope that you can find a different bike next week 
that it will out for you. 

I'm glad to hear that you received the saddle in a very timely manner. It 
must have been on the Brooks Express flight to the east coast. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Monday, February 6, 2023 at 7:24:15 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:

> Just seeing this convo.  I tried that saddle but the springs hit the top 
> of the rack so I'll try it on a different bike next week.  Same size as my 
> B68S but w/springs.  If it doesn't fit, I'll put it on another Riv.  
> Swapping saddles around.  I couldn't believe how quickly I got the saddle 
> from WA.  
>
> I hope someone does  buy that purple Betty.  If anyone has any questions, 
> I can likely answer them.  It is a do it all bike!  
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 9:38:59 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Leah,
>>
>> My apologies for not replying sooner than you might have expected. 
>>
>> I thank-you very much for your sharing with me more about Pam Murray. 
>> She's quite a shining star of joy from her smile. 
>> Long may she ride !
>>
>> I recently sold my Brooks B67S saddle to her. I hope she enjoys it more 
>> so than I did. 
>>
>> Enjoy !
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:39:43 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Kim, 
>>>
>>> Pam is the RivSister of all RivSisters, lol. She will go down in history 
>>> as the first Rivendell rider to ride her steel frame into dust. I have long 
>>> told her she needs a custom in whatever her actual size really is, tucked 
>>> in her closet in case anything (heaven forbid) happen to her little Betty. 
>>> I saw that bike in person at the Philly Bike Expo. It was clearly 
>>> thoroughly enjoyed! 
>>> [image: image0.jpeg]
>>> [image: image1.jpeg]
>>> [image: image2.jpeg]
>>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2023, at 9:00 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Hi Leah,
>>>
>>> I thank-you for your information, regarding the frame size of Pam's 
>>> Betty Foy. I did not know that. 
>>>
>>> Incredible that Pam surpassed the 70,000 mile mark on her bike !  
>>> Amazing  
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:41:47 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
>>>> No - she loves her Betty and, hers is a 47 cm and it’s too big for her. 
>>>> (This purple Betty is a 52.) She rides it anyway and just crossed the 
>>>> 70,000 mile mark last week.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 31, 2023, at 9:39 AM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Maybe Pam Murray of Pam Bikes would be interested in this Betty Foy for 
>>>> an upgrade from her old Betty Foy bicycle ?...
>>>>
>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:24:09 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I saw this on the Facebook group: 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/5574598489315205/
>>>>>
>>>>> Seems like someone would just love this one of a kind Betty! 
>>>>>
>>>>> Leah
>>>>>
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[RBW] Cima Coppi Cycle Wear C.B.

[Kim Hetzel]

Has anyone ordered any product, namely cycling shorts through this company 
located in Oviedo, Spain ?

https://cimacoppi.cc/en/content/9-who-we-are

If so, looking for any feedback for consideration of purchasing some 
cycling shorts.

Thank-you.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

[Kim Hetzel]

Eric,

John Kucharick mentioned in an email to me that he's considering shutting
down his website at the end of March.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023, 4:16 AM Eric Marth  wrote:

> Thanks, Kim, but while the website is still up I thought John Kucharik
> closed up shop and liquidated their inventory sometime in 2021 or 2022.
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 11:01:14 PM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Eric,
>>
>> Try visiting Kucharick Bicycle Clothing. Going out of business sale !
>> https://www.kucharik.com/
>>
>> I have bought some solid colored wool jerseys late last year from John
>> Kucharick. They are luxurious merino wool !
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 9:25:55 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> George — I do wish that there was more simple wool out there in nice
>>> solid colors and I think generally shorts are too long!
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:21:11 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>>>
>> Interesting discussion topic, Andrew. I picture Jobst today on a bike
>>>> very similar to what he ran most of his life. Steel frame, no racks, rim
>>>> brakes. Maybe a frame that would accommodate wider tires.
>>>>
>>>> Here's a picture of Jobst from his last Alpine tour in 2008 (read more
>>>> here
>>>> <https://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Tour_of_the_Alps/2008/index.html>
>>>> ).
>>>>
>>>> [image: xnemj6.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure what make of frames he was riding in this era. But after
>>>> 50 years of touring thousands of miles every summer in Italy, Switzerland
>>>> and France (in addition to the long rides in California) I can't see him
>>>> switching up and running racks or a rando build. He was famously ornery and
>>>> I think he had his system right where he wanted it. He'd tour with a
>>>> Carradice and stayed in hotels along the way (many with friends and
>>>> families he'd met in the 1950s).
>>>>
>>>> As for frame material, this is of course a guess, but I'd wager he'd
>>>> stick with steel. He rode well into the carbon era. As Tom shared in the
>>>> Radavist article today Brandt would get a new frame every few years,
>>>> worried about damage or fractures. He chose yellow paint for his bikes
>>>> because he thought it was the best for highlighting damage. I could see his
>>>> familiarity with steel keeping him on steel frames. And I could see the
>>>> possibility of catastrophic failure keeping him from carbon.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding helmets, I don't think Brandt ever wore one. He probably
>>>> shared an explanation for this back on rec.bicycles.tech but that's way
>>>> before my time.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:55:43 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> True.  I remember those days.  The most you see in one or two of those
>>>>> photos are riders wearing "leather hair nets," except for one who looks
>>>>> like he has a mountaineering helmet.  Another thing I notice is much
>>>>> shorter cycling shorts, probably all wool with a natural chamois crotch.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:31:48 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Those pictures were taken before helmets were commonly available.
>>>>>> During Bikecentennial helmets were rare. Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 4:20 PM lconley  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> One thing I notice in those photos is that no one was wearing a
>>>>>>> helmet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Laing
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:49:25 AM UTC-5
>>>>>>> andyree...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm in the process of building a JB-inspired road bike but with a
>>>>>>>> nod to current bicycle trends: mainly wider tires and spinnier 
>>>>>>>> gearing. As
>>>>>>>> a result, it's made me wonder what he would be riding today if you 
>>>>>>>> spliced
>>>>>>>> his timeline and moved his prime days to current day.
>>>>>>>>
>

Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

[Kim Hetzel]

Eric,

Try visiting Kucharick Bicycle Clothing. Going out of business sale !
https://www.kucharik.com/

I have bought some solid colored wool jerseys late last year from John 
Kucharick. They are luxurious merino wool !

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 9:25:55 AM UTC-8 eric...@gmail.com wrote:

> George — I do wish that there was more simple wool out there in nice solid 
> colors and I think generally shorts are too long! 
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:21:11 PM UTC-5 Eric Marth wrote:
>
>> Interesting discussion topic, Andrew. I picture Jobst today on a bike 
>> very similar to what he ran most of his life. Steel frame, no racks, rim 
>> brakes. Maybe a frame that would accommodate wider tires. 
>>
>> Here's a picture of Jobst from his last Alpine tour in 2008 (read more 
>> here 
>> <https://www.trentobike.org/Countries/Europe/Tour_Reports/Tour_of_the_Alps/2008/index.html>
>> ). 
>>
>> [image: xnemj6.jpg]
>>
>> I'm not sure what make of frames he was riding in this era. But after 50 
>> years of touring thousands of miles every summer in Italy, Switzerland and 
>> France (in addition to the long rides in California) I can't see him 
>> switching up and running racks or a rando build. He was famously ornery and 
>> I think he had his system right where he wanted it. He'd tour with a 
>> Carradice and stayed in hotels along the way (many with friends and 
>> families he'd met in the 1950s). 
>>
>> As for frame material, this is of course a guess, but I'd wager he'd 
>> stick with steel. He rode well into the carbon era. As Tom shared in the 
>> Radavist article today Brandt would get a new frame every few years, 
>> worried about damage or fractures. He chose yellow paint for his bikes 
>> because he thought it was the best for highlighting damage. I could see his 
>> familiarity with steel keeping him on steel frames. And I could see the 
>> possibility of catastrophic failure keeping him from carbon. 
>>
>> Regarding helmets, I don't think Brandt ever wore one. He probably shared 
>> an explanation for this back on rec.bicycles.tech but that's way before my 
>> time. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 11:55:43 AM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>>
>>> True.  I remember those days.  The most you see in one or two of those 
>>> photos are riders wearing "leather hair nets," except for one who looks 
>>> like he has a mountaineering helmet.  Another thing I notice is much 
>>> shorter cycling shorts, probably all wool with a natural chamois crotch.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:31:48 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>>>
>>>> Those pictures were taken before helmets were commonly available. 
>>>> During Bikecentennial helmets were rare. Steve
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 4:20 PM lconley  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> One thing I notice in those photos is that no one was wearing a helmet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Laing
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:49:25 AM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm in the process of building a JB-inspired road bike but with a nod 
>>>>>> to current bicycle trends: mainly wider tires and spinnier gearing. As a 
>>>>>> result, it's made me wonder what he would be riding today if you spliced 
>>>>>> his timeline and moved his prime days to current day. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today's Radavist 
>>>>>> <https://theradavist.com/conversations-with-tom-ritchey-part-two-the-influence-of-jobst-brandt/>
>>>>>>  article 
>>>>>> really fueled that question so I'd like to open it up to this group who 
>>>>>> likely have much more insight into the man and his bike(s). 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are we thinking? Rim brakes or disc? Carbon? Steel? Ti? I see a 
>>>>>> lot of similarities between him and Jan Heine as far as a desire for 
>>>>>> performance and reliability, so perhaps he'd lean towards a rando build? 
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take it away if you wish, 
>>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Jobst Brandt thought experiment: What would he ride today?

[Kim Hetzel]

George,

I, too, remember well those days. I use to own one of those "leather hair 
nets". Then I graduated to a first issue Bell helmet. I wore and short wool 
cycling shorts with a natural chamois insert.  Still love my wool jerseys, 
arm and leg warmers, especially here in the Pacific Northwest. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA
On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:55:43 AM UTC-8 George Schick wrote:

> True.  I remember those days.  The most you see in one or two of those 
> photos are riders wearing "leather hair nets," except for one who looks 
> like he has a mountaineering helmet.  Another thing I notice is much 
> shorter cycling shorts, probably all wool with a natural chamois crotch.
>
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:31:48 AM UTC-6 Steven Sweedler wrote:
>
>> Those pictures were taken before helmets were commonly available. During 
>> Bikecentennial helmets were rare. Steve
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2023 at 4:20 PM lconley  wrote:
>>
>>> One thing I notice in those photos is that no one was wearing a helmet.
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 10:49:25 AM UTC-5 andyree...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm in the process of building a JB-inspired road bike but with a nod 
>>>> to current bicycle trends: mainly wider tires and spinnier gearing. As a 
>>>> result, it's made me wonder what he would be riding today if you spliced 
>>>> his timeline and moved his prime days to current day. 
>>>>
>>>> Today's Radavist 
>>>> <https://theradavist.com/conversations-with-tom-ritchey-part-two-the-influence-of-jobst-brandt/>
>>>>  article 
>>>> really fueled that question so I'd like to open it up to this group who 
>>>> likely have much more insight into the man and his bike(s). 
>>>>
>>>> What are we thinking? Rim brakes or disc? Carbon? Steel? Ti? I see a 
>>>> lot of similarities between him and Jan Heine as far as a desire for 
>>>> performance and reliability, so perhaps he'd lean towards a rando build?  
>>>>
>>>> Take it away if you wish, 
>>>> Andrew
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Susie Lugged

[Kim Hetzel]

I am excited to see CLEMs' coming out later this year or least to be 
determined; completes and frames. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 4:53:00 PM UTC-8 Ryan wrote:

> I like those dark-gold Homers...and possibly a dark-gold Road Uno in 2023?
>
> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 6:12:59 PM UTC-6 Stephen wrote:
>
>> I noticed the lugged susie too! Wonder how it will look, Ive been 
>> resisting the temptation for the dark gold Susies so far but my brain keeps 
>> circling back to them.. I keep toying with the idea of letting my Joe go to 
>> get a susie.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:23:47 PM UTC-5 lconley wrote:
>>
>>> What about purple Roadunos in September?
>>>
>>> Laing
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:13:11 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>
>>>> What you say?? I say! The Riv email newsletter says there's something 
>>>> called Susie Lugged in dark gold coming June 2023. Well ok! 
>>>>
>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Sparkly Purple Betty Foy For Sale

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Leah,

My apologies for not replying sooner than you might have expected. 

I thank-you very much for your sharing with me more about Pam Murray. She's 
quite a shining star of joy from her smile. 
Long may she ride !

I recently sold my Brooks B67S saddle to her. I hope she enjoys it more so 
than I did. 

Enjoy !

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:39:43 PM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Kim, 
>
> Pam is the RivSister of all RivSisters, lol. She will go down in history 
> as the first Rivendell rider to ride her steel frame into dust. I have long 
> told her she needs a custom in whatever her actual size really is, tucked 
> in her closet in case anything (heaven forbid) happen to her little Betty. 
> I saw that bike in person at the Philly Bike Expo. It was clearly 
> thoroughly enjoyed! 
> [image: image0.jpeg]
> [image: image1.jpeg]
> [image: image2.jpeg]
>
> On Jan 31, 2023, at 9:00 PM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Hi Leah,
>
> I thank-you for your information, regarding the frame size of Pam's Betty 
> Foy. I did not know that. 
>
> Incredible that Pam surpassed the 70,000 mile mark on her bike !  Amazing 
>  
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:41:47 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> No - she loves her Betty and, hers is a 47 cm and it’s too big for her. 
>> (This purple Betty is a 52.) She rides it anyway and just crossed the 
>> 70,000 mile mark last week.
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jan 31, 2023, at 9:39 AM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Maybe Pam Murray of Pam Bikes would be interested in this Betty Foy for 
>> an upgrade from her old Betty Foy bicycle ?...
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:24:09 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I saw this on the Facebook group: 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/5574598489315205/
>>>
>>> Seems like someone would just love this one of a kind Betty! 
>>>
>>> Leah
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

[Kim Hetzel]

...I would rather wait until April to buy a new Clem in RBW blue, rather 
than buy a used RBW framset at this point in time. 

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 6:12:01 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> The Clem Smith Jr.s' will be back in April. That's wonderful news. I 
> thank-you very much for the information. I appreciate it.
> In the meantime, I can close my eyes and imagine my lime olive frameset is 
> a RBW blue color. Obviously not when I am cycling on my Clem. 
>
> I contacted the seller of the $3900.00 Clem Smith Jr. "L" out of Portland, 
> Oregon last night. I asked him/her, if there was interest in selling the 
> frameset/fork/headset/BB. I got this response:
>
> " Possibly.  
> Someone is coming to look at the bike tomorrow. I’ll probably give it at 
> least a few weeks before parting it out.  
> I’ll keep you in the loop / you’ll see it posted if i wind up going that 
> route.
> (Obviously if for some reason you wanted to buy frame for $3,000 the 
> answer would simply be yes.)" 
>
> I thoroughly agree with you that the seller's pricing is very extreme by 
> $1000.00 too much.  If it were a Gus or a Susie, I would completely 
> understand. 
>
> I would rather wait til April to buy a new Clem, rather than a used one at 
> this point in time. 
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:11:26 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Kim, believe it was in a Riv email over the last couple months that 
>> the Clem will be back in April! Not sure if that was frames or completes 
>> though. Hopefully they’ll have a blue frame for you!
>>
>> That one for sale is nice, but $3900 seems a bit crazy. I’d sell my Susie 
>> for that and it’s a nicer build!
>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 7:22:54 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I meant to say that I would really love to buy a 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" 
>>> frameset in RBW blue and turn around and sell my 59cm lime olive frameset. 
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA.
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:40:53 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thank-you, Joyce. I appreciate it.
>>>>
>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:28:37 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you 
>>>>> though it's a fully built bike. 
>>>>>
>>>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-clem-smith-step-thru/7583972221.html
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> --Joyce
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Both. I wanted to use a Chocomoose handlebar set-up on the XL Susie 
>>>>>> and it felt too stretched out for me when I was checking different 
>>>>>> options 
>>>>>> for the build that never happened. A 88 PBH put me high and low for 
>>>>>> these 
>>>>>> two sizes. Ended up with a few extra stem/bar combinations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 17:22:41 UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So was the XL a reach for you (bad pun) or are you truly between 
>>>>>>> sizes?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Paul M  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they 
>>>>>>> certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm 
>>>>>>> effective top tube is so long. The 56cm has a 66cm top tube length. 
>>>>>>> They 
>>>>>>> used a 31.8mm diameter top tube on the XL (like the Gus) and a 28.6mm 
>>>>>>> top 
>>>>>>> tube on the 56cm and smaller frames.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 16:30:47 UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I wasn’t going to mention to very nice Large gold Susie I have 
>>>>>>>> listed on here but I guess it’s okay. Haha. That green looks super 
>>>>>>>> nice 
>>>>>>>> Paul!

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

[Kim Hetzel]

 The Clem Smith Jr.s' will be back in April. That's wonderful news. I 
thank-you very much for the information. I appreciate it.
In the meantime, I can close my eyes and imagine my lime olive frameset is 
a RBW blue color. Obviously not when I am cycling on my Clem. 

I contacted the seller of the $3900.00 Clem Smith Jr. "L" out of Portland, 
Oregon last night. I asked him/her, if there was interest in selling the 
frameset/fork/headset/BB. I got this response:

" Possibly.  
Someone is coming to look at the bike tomorrow. I’ll probably give it at 
least a few weeks before parting it out.  
I’ll keep you in the loop / you’ll see it posted if i wind up going that 
route.
(Obviously if for some reason you wanted to buy frame for $3,000 the answer 
would simply be yes.)" 

I thoroughly agree with you that the seller's pricing is very extreme by 
$1000.00 too much.  If it were a Gus or a Susie, I would completely 
understand. 

I would rather wait til April to buy a new Clem, rather than a used one at 
this point in time. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.


On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:11:26 AM UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Kim, believe it was in a Riv email over the last couple months that 
> the Clem will be back in April! Not sure if that was frames or completes 
> though. Hopefully they’ll have a blue frame for you!
>
> That one for sale is nice, but $3900 seems a bit crazy. I’d sell my Susie 
> for that and it’s a nicer build!
> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 7:22:54 AM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> I meant to say that I would really love to buy a 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" 
>> frameset in RBW blue and turn around and sell my 59cm lime olive frameset. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:40:53 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:
>>
>>> Thank-you, Joyce. I appreciate it.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:28:37 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you though 
>>>> it's a fully built bike. 
>>>>
>>>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-clem-smith-step-thru/7583972221.html
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> --Joyce
>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Both. I wanted to use a Chocomoose handlebar set-up on the XL Susie 
>>>>> and it felt too stretched out for me when I was checking different 
>>>>> options 
>>>>> for the build that never happened. A 88 PBH put me high and low for these 
>>>>> two sizes. Ended up with a few extra stem/bar combinations.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 17:22:41 UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So was the XL a reach for you (bad pun) or are you truly between 
>>>>>> sizes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 31, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Paul M  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they 
>>>>>> certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm 
>>>>>> effective top tube is so long. The 56cm has a 66cm top tube length. They 
>>>>>> used a 31.8mm diameter top tube on the XL (like the Gus) and a 28.6mm 
>>>>>> top 
>>>>>> tube on the 56cm and smaller frames.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 16:30:47 UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wasn’t going to mention to very nice Large gold Susie I have 
>>>>>>> listed on here but I guess it’s okay. Haha. That green looks super nice 
>>>>>>> Paul! I’m glad you were able to snag a Large, they go quick!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:22:00 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a new XL (59cm) Lime-Olive Susie Longbolt frameset for sale 
>>>>>>>> that I'm most likely posting later in the week. I picked up a 56cm 
>>>>>>>> Susie 
>>>>>>>> from the most recent Rivendell offering of the Hillibikes and need to 
>>>>>>>> pass 
>>>>>>>> the bigger one on. Price is $1900 plus shipping. New never ridden. 
>>>>>>>> Thanks, 
&

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

[Kim Hetzel]

I meant to say that I would really love to buy a 59cm Clem Smith Jr. "L" 
frameset in RBW blue and turn around and sell my 59cm lime olive frameset. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.
On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:40:53 PM UTC-8 Kim Hetzel wrote:

> Thank-you, Joyce. I appreciate it.
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA. 
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:28:37 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote:
>
>> Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you though 
>> it's a fully built bike. 
>>
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-clem-smith-step-thru/7583972221.html
>>  
>>
>> --Joyce
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>
>>> Both. I wanted to use a Chocomoose handlebar set-up on the XL Susie and 
>>> it felt too stretched out for me when I was checking different options for 
>>> the build that never happened. A 88 PBH put me high and low for these two 
>>> sizes. Ended up with a few extra stem/bar combinations.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 17:22:41 UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> So was the XL a reach for you (bad pun) or are you truly between sizes?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 31, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Paul M  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they 
>>>> certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm 
>>>> effective top tube is so long. The 56cm has a 66cm top tube length. They 
>>>> used a 31.8mm diameter top tube on the XL (like the Gus) and a 28.6mm top 
>>>> tube on the 56cm and smaller frames.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 16:30:47 UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wasn’t going to mention to very nice Large gold Susie I have listed 
>>>>> on here but I guess it’s okay. Haha. That green looks super nice Paul! 
>>>>> I’m 
>>>>> glad you were able to snag a Large, they go quick!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:22:00 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a new XL (59cm) Lime-Olive Susie Longbolt frameset for sale 
>>>>>> that I'm most likely posting later in the week. I picked up a 56cm Susie 
>>>>>> from the most recent Rivendell offering of the Hillibikes and need to 
>>>>>> pass 
>>>>>> the bigger one on. Price is $1900 plus shipping. New never ridden. 
>>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 12:56:29 UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All Susie/Gus are fillet brazed, regardless of color. 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There was talk of going to tig welded after the last batch but it 
>>>>>>> sounds like they'll be discontinued all together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:51:03 PM UTC-8 r.ha...@live.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with my previous bike 
>>>>>>>> which was a lugged 1983 Specialized Expedition (kinda like a Homer) 
>>>>>>>> but 
>>>>>>>> what I really wanted was a step through frame. I initial wanted (and 
>>>>>>>> still 
>>>>>>>> do) was a 52cm Clem Smith L with ATB qualities. After building, I 
>>>>>>>> realized 
>>>>>>>> the Gus not really step through but its okay, I still enjoy it. Also, 
>>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>>> thought all Gus/Susie are filet brazed, are they not?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ron, judging from the pic your Gus looks to be one of filet brazed 
>>>>>>>>> models?  Nicely done build! I've been thinking about a Homer, but 
>>>>>>>>> more and 
>>>>>>>>> more the ATB qualities of the Gus/Susie and even the Platypus are 
>>>>>>>>> looking 
>>>>>>>>> attractive, and I think would be a better successor for my hard tail 
>>>>>>&g

Re: [RBW] Re: FS MKS gammas and VP-69s

[Kim Hetzel]

Thank-you, Alex.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 7:14:07 AM UTC-8 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:

> Hi Kim, $55 shipped conus, add 3% for goods and services if you'd prefer 
> that payment method.
>
> (1) black gamma  (GONE)
> (1) black gamma  (GONE)
>
> (1) silver gamma
> (1) silver gamma
> (1) blue VP-69
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2023 at 9:55 AM Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
>> What is your pricing Alex ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 6:52:03 AM UTC-8 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
>> Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>>
>>> (1) black gamma  (GONE)
>>> (1) black gamma
>>> (1) silver gamma
>>> (1) silver gamma
>>> (1) blue VP-69
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 9:47:32 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
>>> Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>>>
>>>> FS Pedals! MKS Gammas and VP-69s
>>>>
>>>> [image: 5️⃣][image: 5️⃣] ea [image: ] ‘d conus w/ usps tracking, 
>>>> take [image: 5️⃣] off for multiples
>>>>
>>>> (1) black gamma
>>>> (1) black gamma
>>>> (1) silver gamma
>>>> (1) silver gamma
>>>> (1) blue VP-69
>>>>
>>>> I’ll update here as they go. Payment via PayPal, Venmo or Cashapp, 
>>>> goods and services add 3%
>>>>
>>>> [image: pedals.jpg]
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Alex Wirth
>>>> Rochester, NY
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: FS MKS gammas and VP-69s

[Kim Hetzel]

What is your pricing Alex ?

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 6:52:03 AM UTC-8 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:

> (1) black gamma  (GONE)
> (1) black gamma
> (1) silver gamma
> (1) silver gamma
> (1) blue VP-69
>
> On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 9:47:32 AM UTC-5 Alex Wirth- Owner, 
> Yellow Haus Bicycles wrote:
>
>> FS Pedals! MKS Gammas and VP-69s
>>
>> [image: 5️⃣][image: 5️⃣] ea [image: ] ‘d conus w/ usps tracking, take 
>> [image: 
>> 5️⃣] off for multiples
>>
>> (1) black gamma
>> (1) black gamma
>> (1) silver gamma
>> (1) silver gamma
>> (1) blue VP-69
>>
>> I’ll update here as they go. Payment via PayPal, Venmo or Cashapp, goods 
>> and services add 3%
>>
>> [image: pedals.jpg]
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Alex Wirth
>> Rochester, NY
>>
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[RBW] Rivendell Clem L Complete, 52cm, RBW Blue $2,100.00

[Kim Hetzel]

I found this available or at least it seems so:

https://utilitybicycleworks.com/shop/rivendell-clem-l-complete-52cm-rbw-blue

Kim Hetzel
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Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

[Kim Hetzel]

Thank-you, Joyce. I appreciate it.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 8:28:37 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote:

> Kim, there's a blue 59 Clem L on the Portland Craigslist for you though 
> it's a fully built bike. 
>
> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/portland-rivendell-clem-smith-step-thru/7583972221.html
>  
>
> --Joyce
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 7:32:27 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>
>> Both. I wanted to use a Chocomoose handlebar set-up on the XL Susie and 
>> it felt too stretched out for me when I was checking different options for 
>> the build that never happened. A 88 PBH put me high and low for these two 
>> sizes. Ended up with a few extra stem/bar combinations.
>>
>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 17:22:41 UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> So was the XL a reach for you (bad pun) or are you truly between sizes?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 31, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Paul M  wrote:
>>>
>>> I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they 
>>> certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm 
>>> effective top tube is so long. The 56cm has a 66cm top tube length. They 
>>> used a 31.8mm diameter top tube on the XL (like the Gus) and a 28.6mm top 
>>> tube on the 56cm and smaller frames.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 16:30:47 UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wasn’t going to mention to very nice Large gold Susie I have listed 
>>>> on here but I guess it’s okay. Haha. That green looks super nice Paul! I’m 
>>>> glad you were able to snag a Large, they go quick!
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:22:00 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have a new XL (59cm) Lime-Olive Susie Longbolt frameset for sale 
>>>>> that I'm most likely posting later in the week. I picked up a 56cm Susie 
>>>>> from the most recent Rivendell offering of the Hillibikes and need to 
>>>>> pass 
>>>>> the bigger one on. Price is $1900 plus shipping. New never ridden. 
>>>>> Thanks, 
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 12:56:29 UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All Susie/Gus are fillet brazed, regardless of color. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There was talk of going to tig welded after the last batch but it 
>>>>>> sounds like they'll be discontinued all together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:51:03 PM UTC-8 r.ha...@live.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with my previous bike which 
>>>>>>> was a lugged 1983 Specialized Expedition (kinda like a Homer) but what 
>>>>>>> I 
>>>>>>> really wanted was a step through frame. I initial wanted (and still do) 
>>>>>>> was 
>>>>>>> a 52cm Clem Smith L with ATB qualities. After building, I realized the 
>>>>>>> Gus 
>>>>>>> not really step through but its okay, I still enjoy it. Also, I thought 
>>>>>>> all 
>>>>>>> Gus/Susie are filet brazed, are they not?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ron, judging from the pic your Gus looks to be one of filet brazed 
>>>>>>>> models?  Nicely done build! I've been thinking about a Homer, but more 
>>>>>>>> and 
>>>>>>>> more the ATB qualities of the Gus/Susie and even the Platypus are 
>>>>>>>> looking 
>>>>>>>> attractive, and I think would be a better successor for my hard tail 
>>>>>>>> carbon 
>>>>>>>> fiber MTB that I've decided to part ways with.
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 1:32:17 PM UTC-5 r.ha...@live.com 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> First time Riv owner here sharing pics of my Gus build. I had lots 
>>>>>>>>> of inspiration from the Blue Lug website 
>>>>>>>>> <https://bluelug.com/contents/rivendell/gus-boots.php>. I have 
>>>>>>>>> only rode it a 

Re: [RBW] Re: Gus and Susie ride off into the sunset

[Kim Hetzel]

I am hoping that the Clem Smith Jr. "L" frameset is not discontinued and 
rides off into the sunset. I would really love to buy a 59cm Clem Smith Jr. 
"L"  in RBW Blue and in turn sell my lime olive frameset.  

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 5:22:41 PM UTC-8 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> So was the XL a reach for you (bad pun) or are you truly between sizes?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 31, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Paul M  wrote:
>
> I was hoping for a large when they went on sale last year and they 
> certainly sold out fast. The XL is fine in the height but it's 68.5cm 
> effective top tube is so long. The 56cm has a 66cm top tube length. They 
> used a 31.8mm diameter top tube on the XL (like the Gus) and a 28.6mm top 
> tube on the 56cm and smaller frames.
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 16:30:47 UTC-8 fra...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I wasn’t going to mention to very nice Large gold Susie I have listed on 
>> here but I guess it’s okay. Haha. That green looks super nice Paul! I’m 
>> glad you were able to snag a Large, they go quick!
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:22:00 PM UTC-8 Paul M wrote:
>>
>>> I have a new XL (59cm) Lime-Olive Susie Longbolt frameset for sale that 
>>> I'm most likely posting later in the week. I picked up a 56cm Susie from 
>>> the most recent Rivendell offering of the Hillibikes and need to pass the 
>>> bigger one on. Price is $1900 plus shipping. New never ridden. Thanks, Paul
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 31 January 2023 at 12:56:29 UTC-8 JW wrote:
>>>
>>>> All Susie/Gus are fillet brazed, regardless of color. 
>>>>
>>>> There was talk of going to tig welded after the last batch but it 
>>>> sounds like they'll be discontinued all together.
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 12:51:03 PM UTC-8 r.ha...@live.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Steve! I too decided to part ways with my previous bike which 
>>>>> was a lugged 1983 Specialized Expedition (kinda like a Homer) but what I 
>>>>> really wanted was a step through frame. I initial wanted (and still do) 
>>>>> was 
>>>>> a 52cm Clem Smith L with ATB qualities. After building, I realized the 
>>>>> Gus 
>>>>> not really step through but its okay, I still enjoy it. Also, I thought 
>>>>> all 
>>>>> Gus/Susie are filet brazed, are they not?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 12:26:11 PM UTC-5 steve...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ron, judging from the pic your Gus looks to be one of filet brazed 
>>>>>> models?  Nicely done build! I've been thinking about a Homer, but more 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> more the ATB qualities of the Gus/Susie and even the Platypus are 
>>>>>> looking 
>>>>>> attractive, and I think would be a better successor for my hard tail 
>>>>>> carbon 
>>>>>> fiber MTB that I've decided to part ways with.
>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 1:32:17 PM UTC-5 r.ha...@live.com 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First time Riv owner here sharing pics of my Gus build. I had lots 
>>>>>>> of inspiration from the Blue Lug website 
>>>>>>> <https://bluelug.com/contents/rivendell/gus-boots.php>. I have only 
>>>>>>> rode it a few miles though and still trying to get the squeal out of 
>>>>>>> the 
>>>>>>> brakes. So far so fun!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/nWnCevTy8pV3AKNZ7
>>>>>>> [image: IMG_3291.JPG]
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 6:59:32 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Richard, that is a fine and lovely bicycle. Enjoy! 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Joe "I want one" Bernard 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 11, 2023 at 3:22:30 PM UTC-8 
>>>>>>>> rmro...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You all are right. I just got my wheels / tires and got my first 
>>>>>>>>> good look at this rig in person. The bb is much higher than I 
>>>>>>>>> anticipated - 
>>>>>>>>> within 1/2 centimeter of

Re: [RBW] Re: Sparkly Purple Betty Foy For Sale

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Leah,

I thank-you for your information, regarding the frame size of Pam's Betty 
Foy. I did not know that. 

Incredible that Pam surpassed the 70,000 mile mark on her bike !  Amazing 
 

On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 6:41:47 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> No - she loves her Betty and, hers is a 47 cm and it’s too big for her. 
> (This purple Betty is a 52.) She rides it anyway and just crossed the 
> 70,000 mile mark last week.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 31, 2023, at 9:39 AM, Kim Hetzel  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Maybe Pam Murray of Pam Bikes would be interested in this Betty Foy for an 
> upgrade from her old Betty Foy bicycle ?...
>
> Kim Hetzel
> Yelm, WA.
>
> On Tuesday, January 31, 2023 at 4:24:09 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I saw this on the Facebook group: 
>>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/3127504017358010/permalink/5574598489315205/
>>
>> Seems like someone would just love this one of a kind Betty! 
>>
>> Leah
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[RBW] Re: Sparkly Purple Betty Foy For Sale

[Kim Hetzel]

Maybe Pam Murray of Pam Bikes would be interested in this Betty Foy for an 
upgrade from her old Betty Foy bicycle ?...

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

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wrote:

> I saw this on the Facebook group: 
>
>
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>
> Seems like someone would just love this one of a kind Betty! 
>
> Leah
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Re: [RBW] Lambda Add-ons

[Kim Hetzel]

I recently bought the MKS Monarch pedals wings; the side extensions,  for 
my MKS Lambda silver pedals. Looking forward to putting them on my Clem 
Smith Jr. "L" bike.  I, also, bought from Rivendell Bicycle Works a 32 pack 
of pedal spikes. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

My Selle Anatomica H1 saddle is becoming more and more comfortable with 
slight adjustments along the way down the road. 
On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 2:18:41 AM UTC-8 R. Alexis wrote:

> I have two sets of Rivendell Grip King/Lamda pedals. Bought them on the 
> presale years ago. Got the  Pedal Wings last week and mountedthem on both 
> sets of pedals. They fit just fine. have not ridden them yet. The Grip 
> Kings worked well for me on the Bontrager Race single speed I have them on. 
> That bike is my jump on and ride, no fuss bike. In the initial build this 
> bike had some Onza H.O. pedals, then swapped to some VP rat trap type BMX 
> pedals that I salvaged and swapped the 1/2" axles out for 9/16" ones from 
> some broken plastic/nylon pedals. 
>
> Reginald Alexis
>
> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 11:02:01 AM UTC-6 Minh wrote:
>
>> i'm a little behind on my riv news, can anyone confirm if these will fit 
>> the grip king/lamda, non-monarch pedals too?
>>
>> On Tuesday, January 24, 2023 at 12:26:11 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for posting this pic. I didn't know that Rivendell had the Grip 
>>> Monarch/King pedal wings made and in stock. Been waiting for them to mount 
>>> on the Grip Kings I have. Went ahead and ordered the Silver 2 shifters and 
>>> mounts while I was at it. Should be here tomorrow. 
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Reginald Alexis
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 1:02:31 PM UTC-6 joshm...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Was wondering what this would look like!
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 8:09 PM J Imler  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Wood and wings are a go. I used 30mm long bolts due to additional 
>>>>> length.
>>>>>
>>>>> [image: image1 (1).jpeg]
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[RBW] Re: Back On A Platypus

[Kim Hetzel]

Jared...
I thank-you very much for your information. I will most definitely share 
this with my friend.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 7:12:40 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:

> Thanks everyone for chiming in, much appreciated!
>
> Mack, can't wait to see your spin on the Susie. I'm not sure how much long 
> the Kristofferson sticker will last, but I'm giving it my best!
>
> Kim, these tires are 700x50. My wife has 2.1's on her Platypus right now 
> with sufficient clearance, and I believe they're rated to clear 2.2's or 
> 48's with fenders.
>
> FWIW I'm a huge fan of these GravelKing SK tires, they're an amazing value 
> as far as things go these days.
>
> Hope that helps :)
>
> Jared
>
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 6:42:46 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Jared,
>>
>> What size Panaracer Gravel Kings are you running on your Platypus ?  
>> What is the maximum tire size you can run ?  Asking for a friend, who owns 
>> a Platypus. 
>>
>> Thank-you.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 6:22:35 PM UTC-8 penne...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> I loved this bike, and loved it 3x1 most of all. So glad that Jared is 
>>> keeping the 3x1 Platy alive (along with many of its stickers, which is no 
>>> small thing on account of the strange bunch I had on there). Such a great 
>>> build!
>>>
>>> The northbound Susie will get here early next week. I'll get it built up 
>>> within a week or so, hopefully, and then I'll try to remember to hijack 
>>> this Platy thread with a Susie build photo. I'm hoping to wind up with 
>>> something like a fatter tire, higher bb version of the Platy. In any case, 
>>> both of the bikes that come out of this trade will be 3x1 :) 
>>>
>>> Mack
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 6:38:45 PM UTC-7 DavidP wrote:
>>>
>>>> Nice! That Platy looks ready for anything. I love the versatility of 
>>>> this bike.
>>>>
>>>> -Dave
>>>>
>>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 7:02:45 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That's a fine bicycle, Jared! I did a 3x1 a few years ago and loved 
>>>>> it, it taught me that I often downshift a rear cassette unnecessarily. 3 
>>>>> gears is enough! 
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:01 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Through various dealings the last year I worked my way down to only a 
>>>>>> Susie, trying to convince myself that I wasn't overbiking, but I was. I 
>>>>>> didn't need the tall BB or the clearance for 2.8's for the type of 
>>>>>> riding I 
>>>>>> generally do, and for the amount of time I spend on trails it was hard 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> justify having so much bike.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of you may remember a WTT posting from the end of '22, I was 
>>>>>> looking to trade for a 60cm Platypus to fill in the gap that was left 
>>>>>> when 
>>>>>> I gave my wife my old 60cm and we sold her 55cm. Shortly after posting I 
>>>>>> was approached by Mack with the Canadian Caveat, but we were determined 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> make it worthwhile for both parties. After Mack crunched some numbers 
>>>>>> and 
>>>>>> we wheeled and dealed a bit we came to an agreement and would soon have 
>>>>>> new 
>>>>>> steeds!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I received my new to me Platypus on Thursday of last week and wasted 
>>>>>> no time getting it set up. Mack had a killer 3x1 drivetrain and I knew 
>>>>>> I'd 
>>>>>> like to try the same, so I acquired some parts and pieced it together. 
>>>>>> I'm 
>>>>>> still dialing in this set up but so far it's showing a lot of promise 
>>>>>> and I 
>>>>>> couldn't be more grateful for Mack's advice along the way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So here it is, as of the ride I just got back from, and I'm so happy 
>>>>>> to be back on a Platypus.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jared in SLO, CA
>>>>>>
>>>>>

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[RBW] Re: Back On A Platypus

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Jared,

What size Panaracer Gravel Kings are you running on your Platypus ?  What 
is the maximum tire size you can run ?  Asking for a friend, who owns a 
Platypus. 

Thank-you.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 6:22:35 PM UTC-8 penne...@gmail.com wrote:

> I loved this bike, and loved it 3x1 most of all. So glad that Jared is 
> keeping the 3x1 Platy alive (along with many of its stickers, which is no 
> small thing on account of the strange bunch I had on there). Such a great 
> build!
>
> The northbound Susie will get here early next week. I'll get it built up 
> within a week or so, hopefully, and then I'll try to remember to hijack 
> this Platy thread with a Susie build photo. I'm hoping to wind up with 
> something like a fatter tire, higher bb version of the Platy. In any case, 
> both of the bikes that come out of this trade will be 3x1 :) 
>
> Mack
>
> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 6:38:45 PM UTC-7 DavidP wrote:
>
>> Nice! That Platy looks ready for anything. I love the versatility of this 
>> bike.
>>
>> -Dave
>>
>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 7:02:45 PM UTC-5 Joe Bernard wrote:
>>
>>> That's a fine bicycle, Jared! I did a 3x1 a few years ago and loved it, 
>>> it taught me that I often downshift a rear cassette unnecessarily. 3 gears 
>>> is enough! 
>>>
>>> Joe Bernard 
>>>
>>> On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 3:55:01 PM UTC-8 Jared Wilson wrote:
>>>
>>>> Through various dealings the last year I worked my way down to only a 
>>>> Susie, trying to convince myself that I wasn't overbiking, but I was. I 
>>>> didn't need the tall BB or the clearance for 2.8's for the type of riding 
>>>> I 
>>>> generally do, and for the amount of time I spend on trails it was hard to 
>>>> justify having so much bike.
>>>>
>>>> Some of you may remember a WTT posting from the end of '22, I was 
>>>> looking to trade for a 60cm Platypus to fill in the gap that was left when 
>>>> I gave my wife my old 60cm and we sold her 55cm. Shortly after posting I 
>>>> was approached by Mack with the Canadian Caveat, but we were determined to 
>>>> make it worthwhile for both parties. After Mack crunched some numbers and 
>>>> we wheeled and dealed a bit we came to an agreement and would soon have 
>>>> new 
>>>> steeds!
>>>>
>>>> I received my new to me Platypus on Thursday of last week and wasted no 
>>>> time getting it set up. Mack had a killer 3x1 drivetrain and I knew I'd 
>>>> like to try the same, so I acquired some parts and pieced it together. I'm 
>>>> still dialing in this set up but so far it's showing a lot of promise and 
>>>> I 
>>>> couldn't be more grateful for Mack's advice along the way.
>>>>
>>>> So here it is, as of the ride I just got back from, and I'm so happy to 
>>>> be back on a Platypus.
>>>>
>>>> Jared in SLO, CA
>>>>
>>>

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Re: [RBW] Re: A report on my new leather saddle

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Bruce,

Great to hear from you and your love of your many years of riding on Selle 
Anatomica saddles. 

Earlier today, I took a ride around my neighborhood. I stopped here and 
there to adjust my saddle; height, fore and aft, tilt and tension.  I love 
the ease of using an Allen wrench to adjust the tension. 

Eliot..
I decided to tighten up the tension bolt quite a bit and back off a little. 
It feels a lot better now. I still need to go on a longer ride to prove 
itself as being a great saddle. That day will come soon. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Sunday, January 22, 2023 at 2:45:43 PM UTC-8 Fullylugged wrote:

> I've been riding Selle Anatomica saddles since Riv started selling them 
> (they don't at present) many years ago. I prefer the original design for 
> comfort but the current one works well too, and perhaps gives more use 
> before replacement of the leather top.
>
> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 8:13:37 PM UTC-6 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Tom..
>> I am glad to hear that you have and own a Selle Anatomica saddle for the 
>> last two years.  I hope you decide well for your next saddle.  More head 
>> scratching ?
>>
>> Eliot...
>> Since this is my first Selle Anatomica saddle, I did not want touch the 
>> tension bolt yet. I want to see how it rides as is. So far, it is working 
>> up and down the block. I have to go on a long ride and truly see how it 
>> feels and behaves.
>> Yes, I am aware of Selle Anatomica's website of their "how to videos".  I 
>> thank-you for pointing that out to me. 
>>
>> Keith..
>> I thank-you for your input. My saddle has those bag loops. However, I 
>> will not be using them. I will be using my Topeak trunk bag. 
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA
>>
>> ...rotated my tires today. 
>>
>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 8:17:13 AM UTC-8 Keith Weaver wrote:
>>
>>> I have found a couple of solutions to the lack of bag loops on modern 
>>> saddles. Velo Orange sells clamp on loops, but they didn't look very strong 
>>> to me. The Restuvus saddle attachment is nicely made and feels very secure. 
>>> I haven't used mine a lot, but I think it's a great option. One source I 
>>> found is here: https://builtbyswift.com/shop/hobo-pieces-restuvus/
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 7:28 AM Tom Wyland  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I found that the Selle Anatomica works for me, too.  I've had mine for 
>>>> 2 years now.  I need a saddle for my folding bike and I'm deciding to buy 
>>>> another H2 saddle or not.  The selection of non-leather saddles that has 
>>>> saddle bag loops is limited, unfortunately.
>>>>
>>>> Tom 
>>>> Reston, VA
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 8:37:24 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Doug,
>>>>>
>>>>> You are absolutely correct in of having a saddle that works best for 
>>>>> me. Now, I can more on to enjoying the ride and scenery. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a Brooks B-17 saddle on a bike that I retired years ago that 
>>>>> never got broken in. Never felt inclined to put it on my Clem. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank-you for sharing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 5:15:13 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kim,
>>>>>> There is nothing better than a saddle that works for you. From your 
>>>>>> photo I can see that the Selle Anotomica truly does have a hammock 
>>>>>> shape, 
>>>>>> much different from a Brooks. I'm happy so far with my Brooks B17 but it 
>>>>>> is 
>>>>>> good to know there are leather options in the market.
>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:17:01 AM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kim,
>>>>>>> Way to go!  Congrats on getting the saddle you wanted.  It's always 
>>>>>>> a bonus to get a piece of gear that makes riding a pleasure.  Many 
>>>>>>> miles to 
>>>>>>> you!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Joyce
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 8:48:16 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yester

[RBW] ISO - The schematic drawing(s) of Rivendell's Clem Smith Jr. "L" bicycle

[Kim Hetzel]

I am in search of the schematic drawing(s) of Rivendell,s Clem Smith Jr. 
"L" bicycle for my own personal records and reference. I thought I had one 
amongst my emails, but I did not.

Your help in sending me one would be most appreciated.

Thank-you,
Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

Yesterday, I combined two Yakima bicycle rooftop trays into one for my long 
wheel-based Clem Jr. "L" bike. I will have to shift the rail back upon 
transport for centering purposes. Thereafter, I won't be able to raise my 
hatchback. Thinking of incorporating some quick-release system into the 
rail.  The entire rail is longer than my roof of my car !


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Re: [RBW] Re: A sub-reddit Rivendell Bicycle group on Reddit

[Kim Hetzel]

You are more than welcome, David.

Kim.

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 7:01 AM DavidP  wrote:

> Kim - thanks for that. I love your Clem (those grips are great), those
> photos, and that ride.
>
> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 9:41:16 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank-you, Dave. I posted a couple of posts about my Clem in the xbiking
>> sub before.
>> Here is a recent one from three days ago:
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/10eieo4/snow_ride/
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 6:26:55 AM UTC-8 DavidP wrote:
>>
>>> Nice find, Kim. Too bad there doesn't seem to be much activity. I've
>>> seen some Rivs on the xbiking sub <https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/>
>>> from time to time.
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 9:24:06 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> This morning, I found a sub-reddit group on Reddit regarding Rivendell
>>>> Bicycles. I just wanted to share the link, if anybody has not been aware of
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/Rivendell_Bicycles/
>>>>
>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>> Yelm, WA
>>>>
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[RBW] Re: Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Kim Hetzel]

I am right here Jake.  Come on in and join the Selle Anatomica H1 saddle 
Club. Kick to the side your Brooks saddle along with mine. We are done !

Very nice coincidence that the big "H" that is stamped on the saddle 
matches with Hillborne! Wonderful feature !

Nice build on your Silver Streak Sam Hillbourne. 

Long may you ride with smiles and joy.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 6:31:06 AM UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:

> Done!
>
> No one was hurt in the process, thankfully!  It goes, stops, and actually 
> shifts.  What fun.   My reflections are that I know I took about 10 times 
> longer to build this than was necessary, but I enjoyed every minute.  Very 
> little profanity was used, hardly any at all.  The derailer hanger was out 
> about, say, 5-10 degrees out of the box, so that was an easy adjustment 
> with the expensive Park tool that I may never use again.  :-)   I was able 
> to find Shimano instructions for the Nexave online, so that was super 
> helpful.  I still need to dial the shifting in, but it works beautifully in 
> friction mode.  It's a mess in index mode.  I think I have my answer 
> there.  Keep it in friction.  Right.  Getting the FD dialed in was much 
> more finicky than I anticipated.
>
> Where's Kim?  Hey Kim, the Selle Anatomica rocks!  Right out of the box 
> super comfort.   I'm definitely joining the club.  I am going to kick my 
> old B-17 to the curb.  And the big H stamped on the saddle matches with 
> Hillborne!  Bonus.  I am going to hold off on the shellac as the Newbaum 
> feels great naked.  If it gets gnarly over time it's easy enough to 
> rewrap.  I might hit up the twine with some shellac though.  I might also 
> swap out those black DXR brake handles for some expensive Paul's as I am 
> not sure I like the black.  They sure do work well, though.  The Albatross 
> looks huge in this picture, but not so much in reality.  It's a keeper - 
> super comfortable.  Body positioning is very neutral on this upright 
> configuration. Love the platform of the pedals.  I tried to keep the 
> obnoxious blue to a minimum while accenting it.  That's an Air Force blue 
> if anyone was wondering.
>
> Needs a rack or two, undecided on fenders (toe clearance), and a cool 
> matching stowaway bag from Tunitas is on it's way.  Time to re-torque 
> everything and go for a nice long ride.
>
> [image: Silver Sam.JPG]
>
> Last night when I finished it.  Cockpit view.
>
> [image: SH Cockpit.JPG]
>
> Fun stuff!
>
> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 8:59:39 AM UTC-5 Slacky Mac wrote:
>
>> Have you looked at the SimWorks "Obento" rack?
>>
>> Hi David, yes I did.  Jess (of Tunitas) directed me to the Obento after I 
>> inquired what that beautiful rack was on her bike pictured on the Riv 
>> site.  Sadly, not the same aesthetic as the Potluck.  Similar function 
>> though.
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 3:34:11 AM UTC-5 Hetchins52 wrote:
>>
>>> Have you looked at the SimWorks "Obento" rack?
>>>https://www.sim.works/products/obento-rack
>>> Pricey, but the "shiny" version seems to be in stock!
>>>
>>> David Lipsky
>>> Berkeley, CA
>>> On Tuesday, January 17, 2023 at 12:40:19 PM UTC-8 jak...@me.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> “Any changes in parts and such while thinking over the build?”
>>>>
>>>> Reginald - yes, a few!   I switched to bar ends as thumbie mounts were 
>>>> temporarily out of stock and I was impatient.  Lots of downstream effects 
>>>> from that one.  I originally wanted to go with Ergon cork grips with 
>>>> something like a Billie or a Crumworks bar.  I’ll see if the bar-ends on 
>>>> my 
>>>> old Albatross and prodigious use of Newbaums works.  It’ll be creative 
>>>> (nice word for obviously DIY).  If it’s not comfy, easy enough to make a 
>>>> change.
>>>>
>>>> With the gigantic pedals, I am concerned with toe-to-tire spacing, so 
>>>> am holding off on fenders.  Also no decision on racks. Crushed that the 
>>>> Nitto Potluck rack is NLA.
>>>>
>>>> Getting there.  Riv box delivered today, more work this weekend. 
>>>>  Assuming the Nexave derailer doesn’t derail me, should be finished up and 
>>>> ready to ride.  (Whoa that’s a big photo - sorry). 
>>>>
>>>> Jake
>>>>
>>>> [image: A00698B8-FA9B-4BE4-8582-253D37FDB4B9.jpeg]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 1:46:21 AM UTC-5 R. Alexis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Congratulations!!

[RBW] Re: A sub-reddit Rivendell Bicycle group on Reddit

[Kim Hetzel]

You are more than welcome, Dave. 

It is always nice to see a Rivendell bike, such as the Susie or a Gus being 
ridden in extreme conditions.


Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 7:03:26 AM UTC-8 DavidP wrote:

> Kim - thanks for that. That's a really nice Susie and set of photos.
>
> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 9:41:16 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Thank-you, Dave. I posted a couple of posts about my Clem in the xbiking 
>> sub before. 
>> Here is a recent one from three days ago:
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/10eieo4/snow_ride/
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 6:26:55 AM UTC-8 DavidP wrote:
>>
>>> Nice find, Kim. Too bad there doesn't seem to be much activity. I've 
>>> seen some Rivs on the xbiking sub <https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/> 
>>> from time to time.
>>>
>>> -Dave
>>>
>>> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 9:24:06 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> This morning, I found a sub-reddit group on Reddit regarding Rivendell 
>>>> Bicycles. I just wanted to share the link, if anybody has not been aware 
>>>> of 
>>>> it. 
>>>>
>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/Rivendell_Bicycles/
>>>>
>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>> Yelm, WA
>>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: A sub-reddit Rivendell Bicycle group on Reddit

[Kim Hetzel]

Thank-you, Dave. I posted a couple of posts about my Clem in the xbiking 
sub before. 
Here is a recent one from three days ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/comments/10eieo4/snow_ride/

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 6:26:55 AM UTC-8 DavidP wrote:

> Nice find, Kim. Too bad there doesn't seem to be much activity. I've seen 
> some Rivs on the xbiking sub <https://www.reddit.com/r/xbiking/> from 
> time to time.
>
> -Dave
>
> On Friday, January 20, 2023 at 9:24:06 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> This morning, I found a sub-reddit group on Reddit regarding Rivendell 
>> Bicycles. I just wanted to share the link, if anybody has not been aware of 
>> it. 
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/Rivendell_Bicycles/
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA
>>
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[RBW] A sub-reddit Rivendell Bicycle group on Reddit

[Kim Hetzel]

This morning, I found a sub-reddit group on Reddit regarding Rivendell 
Bicycles. I just wanted to share the link, if anybody has not been aware of 
it. 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Rivendell_Bicycles/

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA

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Re: [RBW] Craigslist (and others) Bikes For Sale: 3

[Kim Hetzel]

 New In Box 2022 55cm Rivendell Platypus frameset - $2,100 
New In Box.
Headset and seatpost included.
$2100 firm. 
Cash/Zelle only.
You must pick up. 

https://newyork.craigslist.org/que/bik/d/flushing-new-in-box-cm-rivendell/7576327566.html

On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 8:18:40 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote:

> OOPS!  I got the colors reversedClem H is dark green, Platy is 
> lime-olive.  Sorry.
>
> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 8:17:06 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote:
>
>> CLEM H  59cm  $1500  Eugene, OR
>>   lime-olive color
>>   
>> https://eugene.craigslist.org/bik/d/eugene-rivendell-clem-smith-jr/7571155810.html
>>  
>>
>> PLATYPUS frameset  60cm  $1637  Eugene, OR
>>   looks like the dark green color
>>   
>> https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/d/eugene-new-rivendell-60cm-platypus/7580365799.html
>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 8:19:55 AM UTC-8 Keith Weaver wrote:
>>
>>> There's a small (48 cm), red(!) Hillborne in the Bay Area that I'm 
>>> trying to resist buying myself. I think it may be a bit small for me with 
>>> my 79 cm PBH, and not quite what I need to replace my Disc Trucker. I'm 
>>> trying to hold out until the next batch of Appaloosas. 
>>>
>>>
>>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/d/oakland-red-48cm-rivendell-sam-hillborne/7578783667.html
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 5:40 AM MCT  wrote:
>>>
 There is a 61cm Waterford A. Homer Hilsen for sale on Paceine for $1,000

 https://forums.thepaceline.net/showthread.php?t=291519

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Re: [RBW] Re: A report on my new leather saddle

[Kim Hetzel]

Tom..
I am glad to hear that you have and own a Selle Anatomica saddle for the 
last two years.  I hope you decide well for your next saddle.  More head 
scratching ?

Eliot...
Since this is my first Selle Anatomica saddle, I did not want touch the 
tension bolt yet. I want to see how it rides as is. So far, it is working 
up and down the block. I have to go on a long ride and truly see how it 
feels and behaves.
Yes, I am aware of Selle Anatomica's website of their "how to videos".  I 
thank-you for pointing that out to me. 

Keith..
I thank-you for your input. My saddle has those bag loops. However, I will 
not be using them. I will be using my Topeak trunk bag. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA

...rotated my tires today. 

On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 8:17:13 AM UTC-8 Keith Weaver wrote:

> I have found a couple of solutions to the lack of bag loops on modern 
> saddles. Velo Orange sells clamp on loops, but they didn't look very strong 
> to me. The Restuvus saddle attachment is nicely made and feels very secure. 
> I haven't used mine a lot, but I think it's a great option. One source I 
> found is here: https://builtbyswift.com/shop/hobo-pieces-restuvus/
>
> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 7:28 AM Tom Wyland  wrote:
>
>> I found that the Selle Anatomica works for me, too.  I've had mine for 2 
>> years now.  I need a saddle for my folding bike and I'm deciding to buy 
>> another H2 saddle or not.  The selection of non-leather saddles that has 
>> saddle bag loops is limited, unfortunately.
>>
>> Tom 
>> Reston, VA
>>
>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 8:37:24 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Doug,
>>>
>>> You are absolutely correct in of having a saddle that works best for me. 
>>> Now, I can more on to enjoying the ride and scenery. 
>>>
>>> I have a Brooks B-17 saddle on a bike that I retired years ago that 
>>> never got broken in. Never felt inclined to put it on my Clem. 
>>>
>>> Thank-you for sharing.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>
>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 5:15:13 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kim,
>>>> There is nothing better than a saddle that works for you. From your 
>>>> photo I can see that the Selle Anotomica truly does have a hammock shape, 
>>>> much different from a Brooks. I'm happy so far with my Brooks B17 but it 
>>>> is 
>>>> good to know there are leather options in the market.
>>>> Doug
>>>>
>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:17:01 AM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kim,
>>>>> Way to go!  Congrats on getting the saddle you wanted.  It's always a 
>>>>> bonus to get a piece of gear that makes riding a pleasure.  Many miles to 
>>>>> you!
>>>>>
>>>>> --Joyce
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 8:48:16 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yesterday, I received in the mail from a purchase I made from a RBW 
>>>>>> member a Selle Anotomica H1 black gun metal leather saddle. He gave me a 
>>>>>> real good deal on it. It had not been ridden with some blemishes on the 
>>>>>> saddle. This is my first Selle Anatomica saddle. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My Brooks B67S saddle was hurting my seat bones. Have I become older 
>>>>>> ? ...or has my butt gotten more bony ? I rode 14 miles last week. I had 
>>>>>> to 
>>>>>> stop occasionally and rest. Needless to say, it was very annoying. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Today, I hung up the Brooks saddle. I installed my Selle Anatomica H1 
>>>>>> saddle on my PAUL Tall & Handsome seat post. Test rode the saddle to 
>>>>>> dial 
>>>>>> it in to my comfort between my garage and up and down the street about 
>>>>>> six 
>>>>>> or seven times. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Guess what ? it truly is a "hammock for my butt" !  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is quite comfortable. I think I can see myself riding longer 
>>>>>> distances with more smiles.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Less rain in the forecast for next week. Time to ride more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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[RBW] Re: A report on my new leather saddle

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Doug,

You are absolutely correct in of having a saddle that works best for me. 
Now, I can more on to enjoying the ride and scenery. 

I have a Brooks B-17 saddle on a bike that I retired years ago that never 
got broken in. Never felt inclined to put it on my Clem. 

Thank-you for sharing.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 5:15:13 AM UTC-8 Doug H. wrote:

> Kim,
> There is nothing better than a saddle that works for you. From your photo 
> I can see that the Selle Anotomica truly does have a hammock shape, much 
> different from a Brooks. I'm happy so far with my Brooks B17 but it is good 
> to know there are leather options in the market.
> Doug
>
> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:17:01 AM UTC-5 JAS wrote:
>
>> Kim,
>> Way to go!  Congrats on getting the saddle you wanted.  It's always a 
>> bonus to get a piece of gear that makes riding a pleasure.  Many miles to 
>> you!
>>
>> --Joyce
>>
>> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 8:48:16 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday, I received in the mail from a purchase I made from a RBW 
>>> member a Selle Anotomica H1 black gun metal leather saddle. He gave me a 
>>> real good deal on it. It had not been ridden with some blemishes on the 
>>> saddle. This is my first Selle Anatomica saddle. 
>>>
>>> My Brooks B67S saddle was hurting my seat bones. Have I become older ? 
>>> ...or has my butt gotten more bony ? I rode 14 miles last week. I had to 
>>> stop occasionally and rest. Needless to say, it was very annoying. 
>>>
>>> Today, I hung up the Brooks saddle. I installed my Selle Anatomica H1 
>>> saddle on my PAUL Tall & Handsome seat post. Test rode the saddle to dial 
>>> it in to my comfort between my garage and up and down the street about six 
>>> or seven times. 
>>>
>>> Guess what ?.... it truly is a "hammock for my butt" !  
>>>
>>> It is quite comfortable. I think I can see myself riding longer 
>>> distances with more smiles.
>>>
>>> Less rain in the forecast for next week. Time to ride more.
>>>
>>> Kim Hetzel
>>> Yelm, WA. 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>

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[RBW] Re: A report on my new leather saddle

[Kim Hetzel]

Hi Joyce,

Thank-you very much.  
YES ! .. It is all about comfort.  
One thing I noticed about my Selle Anatomica saddle, it has a lower profile 
than my Brooks and weighs less. I think my bike became lighter without the 
Brooks. I like the construction of my new saddle, namely the rails. It does 
not need setback like the Brooks saddle. 

Many smiles to you on your miles.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 10:17:01 PM UTC-8 JAS wrote:

> Kim,
> Way to go!  Congrats on getting the saddle you wanted.  It's always a 
> bonus to get a piece of gear that makes riding a pleasure.  Many miles to 
> you!
>
> --Joyce
>
> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 8:48:16 PM UTC-8 krhe...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Yesterday, I received in the mail from a purchase I made from a RBW 
>> member a Selle Anotomica H1 black gun metal leather saddle. He gave me a 
>> real good deal on it. It had not been ridden with some blemishes on the 
>> saddle. This is my first Selle Anatomica saddle. 
>>
>> My Brooks B67S saddle was hurting my seat bones. Have I become older ? 
>> ...or has my butt gotten more bony ? I rode 14 miles last week. I had to 
>> stop occasionally and rest. Needless to say, it was very annoying. 
>>
>> Today, I hung up the Brooks saddle. I installed my Selle Anatomica H1 
>> saddle on my PAUL Tall & Handsome seat post. Test rode the saddle to dial 
>> it in to my comfort between my garage and up and down the street about six 
>> or seven times. 
>>
>> Guess what ? it truly is a "hammock for my butt" !  
>>
>> It is quite comfortable. I think I can see myself riding longer distances 
>> with more smiles.
>>
>> Less rain in the forecast for next week. Time to ride more.
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA. 
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Help me ID these bars

[Kim Hetzel]

I would agree, as well.  Albatross bars. 

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA. 

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 8:06:03 PM UTC-8 Joe Bernard wrote:

> Looks like Riv Nitti Albatross. 
> [image: Screenshot_20230118_200520.jpg]
>
> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 7:55:02 PM UTC-8 Pam Bikes wrote:
>
>> What bars are these?  Thanks in advance.[image: IMG_2177.JPG][image: 
>> IMG_2180.JPG]
>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Kim Hetzel]

Sounds like a good plan. I hope those bars work out for you well.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 8:38 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Hi Kim,
>
> Good eye!  I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1 and
> replace the original drops.  I feel like I will end up with something like
> a Nitto X Crumbworks bar (I'm a distance motorcyclist - love the palms-down
> hand position) but need to put some (s)miles on the Sam before figuring
> that out.
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Jake,
>>
>> Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?
>>
>> Kim Hetzel
>> Yelm, WA.
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>>
>>> Looks amazing. Good luck!
>>>
>>> k.
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>>>
>>>
>>> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've
>>> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had to be
>>> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>>>
>>> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead, so I
>>> shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing the
>>> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be
>>> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I
>>> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>>>
>>> If I blow it, you'll never hear from me again.  If it rolls fast and
>>> true, I will post a glorious, victorious photo from Flatistan, FL.
>>>
>>> See any parts you like?  Wish me luck!
>>>
>>> #goheavyontheboeshield
>>>
>>> [image: Sam Parts.jpg]
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Sam Build - Wish Me Luck!

[Kim Hetzel]

If you are unable to find Frame Saver, boiled linseed oil will work as well.

Kim Hetzel
Yelm, WA.

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023, 10:35 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Ping me your addy, and one spanking new Riv tealish-blue lugged bandana
> will be in the mail.   Frame Saver is a good idea.  I have T-9, but I
> believe Frame Saver is preferred.
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:20:09 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Yes! I would absolutely take a free bandana for funzies. Since you
>> haven’t started the build yet, you might consider some Frame Saver.
>> Especially if you’re anywhere near the sea (my Florida geography is quite
>> limited but I think I see the ocean).
>>
>> It used to be owned by JP Weigle and is now sold under Problem Solvers.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 10:13 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Eliot -
>>>
>>> If there was an award for box recognition, you would have won it!   How
>>> about a free bandana?  The BB is on it's way from Riv, along with a S83
>>> seat post to replace the stocker.   I also could not resist the blue BB
>>> cable guide - damn those guys.  I am armed with grease, spray, oil, lube,
>>> blue thread locker, and anti-seize.  I have the best bike stand in the
>>> world - a borrowed one!   If Eric knew how many of those YouTube watch
>>> counts were from me, he'd think me a stalker.  :-)
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 12:04:52 PM UTC-5 eliot...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’ll play this game. None of those boxes are shaped like a square taper
>>>> bottom bracket box.
>>>>
>>>> Good luck! Reach out for help as needed. It’s much less intimidating
>>>> than it looks. Park tools has some excellent videos. Make sure you have
>>>> some good grease and cable cutters. Also feel free to watch the meditative
>>>> Bob Ross (Eric Marth) of bike building on YouTube for inspiration. I’ve
>>>> been meaning to ask him if the babbling brook is fake but I don’t want to
>>>> know the answer.
>>>>
>>>> Eliot
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 8:37 AM 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Kim,
>>>>>
>>>>> Good eye!  I'll try my Albatross bar that never worked with my RB-1
>>>>> and replace the original drops.  I feel like I will end up with something
>>>>> like a Nitto X Crumbworks bar (I'm a distance motorcyclist - love the
>>>>> palms-down hand position) but need to put some (s)miles on the Sam before
>>>>> figuring that out.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:14:18 AM UTC-5 krhe...@gmail.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hey Jake,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where are your handlebars ? ...or did I not see them in your picture ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kim Hetzel
>>>>>> Yelm, WA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 7:41:21 AM UTC-8 Keith P. wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks amazing. Good luck!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> k.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jan 14, 2023, at 7:37 AM, 'Slacky Mac' via RBW Owners Bunch <
>>>>>>> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I had to say it:  "Just ship it to me".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If Vince knew any better, he would have talked me out of it.I've
>>>>>>> never built a bike from (mostly) scratch before, and of course it had 
>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>> a Riv.  Gutsy.  There may be other less flattering words for it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Learning from all of you has given me false bravado to forge ahead,
>>>>>>> so I shall.  Picking parts has been a delight.  I have been embracing 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> anticipation of arriving shiny bits as  patience will most definitely be
>>>>>>> virtue.  Just one more box from Riv and I'll have all I need.  I think I
>>>>>>> have a hammer around here somewhere.
>>>&g