[RBW] Re: Ultradynamico Tires

[Mike E]

I think most riders consider the Ultradynamicos dirt centric tires. They 
may not be ideal for paved roads. The Rose works well on gravel but is a 
bit knobby on pavement. The knobs are spaced very far apart. I found the 
Cava a bit harder to like. The micro-knobs are very thin and tall and they 
squirm noticeably when riding on pavement. Unfortunately the 700C model is 
based on the Cava and not the better liked Rose. You can read my review of 
both tires at https://gravelanddirt.blogspot.com. Let us know what you 
ultimately decide and how you like your new tires!

On Thursday, June 18, 2020 at 6:38:03 AM UTC-7, Justin Kennedy (Brooklyn, 
NY) wrote:
>
> Ultradynamico just released 700c versions 
>  of their tires and I'm thinking 
> about ordering a pair for my 60cm Chev. Specifically I'm looking at the JFF 
> Cava model, though I'm concerned by the *"Zero sidewall protection and no 
> puncture protection on top for premium ride quality"* line in the 
> description. I'm wondering if anyone has experience with these tires as 
> all-arounders. Most of my riding is in on paved streets in an urban 
> environment with the occasional trail and gravel road. 
>
> Will they be disastrous/flat-prone on city streets? I saw in Grant's latest 
> blog 
> 
>  that 
> Riv will be carrying them in the near future as they move to streamline 
> their tire offerings, so I feel some confidence given Riv historically 
> promoting practical/anti-flat tires. But who knows? Should I consider the 
> Robusto, which are slightly more expensive but at least have some sidewall 
> protection? Any thoughts more than welcome.
>

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Re: [RBW] Rene Herse Tires with tubes

[Mike E]

Maybe I misunderstood the comment. From what I've read the Extralights have 
the same tread thickness as the standards. Just the casing is different. 
Waiting for my first set of Extralights right now...;-)

On Monday, June 15, 2020 at 8:16:40 AM UTC-7, Hugh Flynn wrote:
>
> I'm mostly moving to standard casing when buying new tires now (just to 
> have a little more rubber on the tires), but my experience with the 
> extralights has certainly been surprising. 
>
> So, as with all things tire-related, your mileage may vary, but I've sure 
> been thrilled by the ride and durability of my Rene Herse tires 
> with tubes.  
>
>

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[RBW] Gravel&Dirt survey - which tires do you want to see tested?

[Mike E]

First off thank you for all the discussions and constructive criticism when 
we launched the blog. As we move forward, the title says it all. We're 
asking for input into which tires you want to see tested next on 
Gravel&Dirt. Go to https://gravelanddirt.blogspot.com to register your 
vote. Thanks, Mike.

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[RBW] Re: Gravel & Dirt: New blog about equipment

[Mike E]

Interesting! Just to clarify the WTB Byway tires we tested were the 
aftermarket model. The previous owner of the bike had bought them at a bike 
shop and installed them just prior to selling the bike. In the future we'll 
include the source of the tires in the reviews. I've added that info to the 
WTB and Ultradynamico reviews too.

On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 at 4:42:41 AM UTC-7, ascpgh wrote:
>
> That difference between OEM and aftermarket tires has been a bugaboo in 
> every vehicular market, not just bicycles. It's lying. They pay a supplier 
> to place an objectively good product's label on a tire that simply isn't 
> what the label says. Ask Ford about their OEM Firestone rim protectors that 
> blew up and rolled their SUVs. While I've not had as drastic an outcome 
> from 27 TPI OEM labeled tires compared to the real 120TPI items, I just 
> wish the bike companies would realize what a crappy impression their 
> product manager penny-pinching leaves to the 20% of us customers who do 
> discern the difference negatively and wouldn't touch the true after market 
> product after experience with the OEM labeled "equivalent".
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
>
> On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 6:11:26 AM UTC-4, Dave S wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for sharing!  Not sure if this is always the case but, often, 
>> theres a noticeable difference between oem and retail tires.  The tread is 
>> usually identical but the construction is different.  I learned this by 
>> buying a bike with tires that are Folding/TC in the retail version and wire 
>> bead/tube required on the bike.  
>
>

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[RBW] Re: Gravel & Dirt: New blog about equipment

[Mike E]

Thank you for the encouragement. As to the difference between OEM and 
retail tires I can see using a wire bead instead of folding to reduce the 
cost. That's not the case here. All the tires we tested have folding beads. 
I'll add that to the specs. If a different casing is used you'd expect the 
weight to be different, too. We list the weights and at least for the WTBs 
they match the weight in the manufacturer's specs. The Ultradynamico was 30 
grams heavier than spec but I doubt they are making an OEM version of those 
tires. In any case ours were purchased at a bike shop for retail.

On Monday, May 25, 2020 at 3:11:26 AM UTC-7, Dave S wrote:
>
> Thanks for sharing!  Not sure if this is always the case but, often, 
> theres a noticeable difference between oem and retail tires.  The tread is 
> usually identical but the construction is different.  I learned this by 
> buying a bike with tires that are Folding/TC in the retail version and wire 
> bead/tube required on the bike.  

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[RBW] Gravel & Dirt: New blog about equipment

[Mike E]

We just made our new blog live. We're a group of riders who can't resist a 
narrow ribbon of gravel or dirt (or even asphalt) stretching into the 
hills. We've been looking for reliable information about equipment, 
especially reviews of tires for our rides. We're just seeing paid 
advertisements or reviews that don't provide enough context to make good 
decisions and now we've decided to fix that and post our own tire 
reviews. We're starting off with two tire reviews that we've had in the 
works. More to come soon! Leave a comment if you have something to add. 
Thanks.

https://gravelanddirt.blogspot.com/2020/05/welcome-to-gravel.html

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[RBW] Re: Tire Recommendations for an All-Rounder

[Mike E]

Not sure the Ultradynamico is fast rolling on pavement. The knobs are so 
widely spaced that the tire is bumping from one knob to the next and the 
casing seems stiffer than the RH tires mentioned above. I did a review of 
them on the 650B list a while ago:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!search/ultradynamico/650b/EjCEHJvZDIw/-3DGyRHPAgAJ

Has anybody done a real performance test of these?

On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 11:54:17 PM UTC-8, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA 
wrote:
>
> On Thursday, February 13, 2020 at 11:20:09 AM UTC-8, Jason Fuller wrote:
>>
>>
>> Apparently Ultradynamico is putting out 26" options next year, and a set 
>> of the Cava is what I'd like to put on my Clem next - still fast rolling 
>> and supple but a little better off pavement, I expect.
>>
>  
>

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[RBW] Re: An Ent and Hurricane Ridge

[Mike E]

Love your build! How do you like the Paul cantis? And like everybody else, 
eager to get some feedback on the RH Hurricanes.

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