[RBW] Re: FS: MUSA Long Pants *SOLD

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  On Sat, Apr 17, 2021 at 14:44, Norman Bone wrote:   FS: 
Riv MUSA Long pants. Dark Grey, blue gusset. Brand new. Tags removed but never 
worn. I'm 33 waist and 32 inseam and these fit great.
$75 shipped. Payment with Paypal Friends and Family.

Norman in PDX
  

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[RBW] FS: MUSA Long Pants

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FS: Riv MUSA Long pants. Dark Grey, blue gusset. Brand new. Tags removed but 
never worn. I'm 33 waist and 32 inseam and these fit great.
$75 shipped. Payment with Paypal Friends and Family.

Norman in PDX

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Re: [RBW] FF: Riv catalogs and BQ magazines - All claimed.

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All claimed.
-Thanks-
-nb

  From: 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch 

 To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, September 5, 2018 4:51 PM
 Subject: [RBW] FF: Riv catalogs and BQ magazines
   
For Free to a good home for the cost of actual postage. For my sanity, please 
choose: A) all of the Riv catalogs or B) all of the BQ mags or C) All of it

Riv catalogs:Spring 02Fall/Winter 02Spring/Summer 03Summer/Fall 03Spring/Summer 
04Winter 04/05Fall/Winter 052006 #12006 #22007 #19
Bicycle Quarterly magazines:
2008 Winter
2009 Spring, Autumn, Winter2010 Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter2011 Spring, 
Summer, Autumn, Winter2012 Spring
Please don't resell these but instead pass them along when you are done.Reply 
off list to: bone1...@yahoo.com
Thanks-Norman 'So much younger then' BonePortland, OR



   

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[RBW] FF: Riv catalogs and BQ magazines

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For Free to a good home for the cost of actual postage. For my sanity, please 
choose: A) all of the Riv catalogs or B) all of the BQ mags or C) All of it

Riv catalogs:Spring 02Fall/Winter 02Spring/Summer 03Summer/Fall 03Spring/Summer 
04Winter 04/05Fall/Winter 052006 #12006 #22007 #19
Bicycle Quarterly magazines:
2008 Winter
2009 Spring, Autumn, Winter2010 Spring, Summer, Autumn, Winter2011 Spring, 
Summer, Autumn, Winter2012 Spring
Please don't resell these but instead pass them along when you are done.Reply 
off list to: bone1...@yahoo.com
Thanks-Norman 'So much younger then' BonePortland, OR

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[RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon

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Apologies if this has been mentioned already.Let me take a moment to plug 
https://bikeindex.org/
The Portland cops check it and I imagine other jurisdictions do as well.
Norman 'Locked and unloaded' Bone in Portland, OR


  From: lconley 
 To: RBW Owners Bunch  
 Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 12:42 PM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Houseless Sam Hillborne in Portland, Oregon
   
A year ago, I would have reported it to the police and given up on it (and 
maybe declared a theft loss on my tax return). I have never recovered anything 
that was stolen (including 3 bikes 1977 and earlier).
Laing

On Thursday, February 1, 2018 at 3:37:39 PM UTC-5, drew wrote:
right, but if one did get stolen now, you'd probably convey that information to 
someone (maybe here on the group, maybe a bike shop), and that someone would 
probably ask you if you had checked craigslist. you wouldn't just give up on it 
and wander the streets, right?



   

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[RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?

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ER-I'm honestly curious. An 'easy target' for what? I'm having a hard time 
imagining harm coming from what I post here.
Thanks--Norman 'Mostly a good apple' Bone in Portland, OR

  From: EasyRider 
 To: RBW Owners Bunch  
 Sent: Thursday, February 1, 2018 11:17 AM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Are you using your real name on here?
   
I'd like to use my actual name but this isn't a 1990s listserv, it's a publicly 
searchable group. I'm not famous, or a public figure, or a teacher. I'd just 
rather not be an easy target for bad apples with basic keyword search 
abilities. That's why I "hide" behind a handle, not because I want to be an 
anonymous jerk to other RBW owners here.

On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 8:34:38 PM UTC-5, Bob K. wrote:
My middle school students Google my name all the time—like, constantly. They 
don’t need to be able to find anything else. Hence the last initial.

Bob K. in Baltimore
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[RBW] Old Man Petersen's House of Ferrous Velocipedes and Vinyl Seat Tube Decals

['Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch]

All-These were printed back in Jan. 2016 and sold out almost immediately. With 
the resurrection of this thread, folks have started sending me money for 
stickers that I don't have. Since there may be some new demand, I'm considering 
doing another run of 100. If I do, I'll post here when I have them in hand. In 
the mean time, please hold off on sending $. To help gauge demand, if you would 
be interested in buying some stickers, please email me OFF LIST. 
Thanks-
Norm 'if you've got the money, honey' Bone in Portland, OR
bone1...@yahoo.com

  From: Marc Irwin 
 To: RBW Owners Bunch  
 Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 8:36 AM
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Old Man Petersen's House of Ferrous Velocipedes and 
Vinyl Seat Tube Decals
   
I saw this thread pop up yesterday and thought it current.  I sent him a 
request without even considering the date of the thread.  Do you still have one 
Steve?  I'd love to get my hands on one.
Marc

On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:39:17 AM UTC-4, islaysteve wrote:
If you can't get one thru the original maker, message me.  I can send you a 
spare
Steve Alkire


On Wednesday, November 1, 2017 at 6:16:48 AM UTC-4, Fullylugged wrote:
Does anyone know if any of these are left? or Norman's email so I can ask him?

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Re: [RBW] regarding orange bikes

['Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch]

As the original owner of an orange '99 allrounder and an orange XO1 (6 years), 
I'm gonna say no way am I tired of it! Orange is the fastest color 
anyway.Rivendell All-Rounder and Bridgestone XO-1

  
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-Norman in hot and sunny Portland...finally

  From: Jim S. 
 To: RBW Owners Bunch  
 Sent: Thursday, May 4, 2017 12:19 PM
 Subject: [RBW] regarding orange bikes
   
Obviously a highly subjective question, but I like hearing the opinions on this 
board. The question: for long-term owners of orange bikes, do you find yourself 
getting sick of orange after a while, more so than with other colors? -- 

   

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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB - Riv Fork; 26" wheel canti

['Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Great idea. I'd buy two for sure.
-Norm '559 forever' Bone in PDX


  From: Michael Morrissey 
 To: RBW Owners Bunch  
 Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2017 6:35 PM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: WTB - Riv Fork; 26" wheel canti
   
I was looking for almost the same thing and couldn't find it.  I bought an 
ordinary Tange 26" fork from Bruce Gordon instead.  

Perhaps a custom builder could do a run of these forks: 26", lugged, 2.4" tire 
clearance, absurd number of braze-ons, a nice paint color.  I'm not going to 
say a ton of people would want this, but there's probably enough for a small 
batch.  If so, I'm in.

m

On Saturday, April 8, 2017 at 11:35:19 AM UTC-4, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
I'm looking to re-fork my XO-3 for easier 2" tire clearance and mid-fork braze 
on's for rackage.  I've got a 59cm XO-3 and the head tube is about 24cm so I'd 
need at least that, more would be fine or preferred on the steerer tube.  26" 
wheel canti preferred as I want to run my Bruce Gordon fancy canti brakes on 
this rig.  I'd take any color, pretty much any usable condition.  Figure it's a 
long shot but maybe someone has one laying around.  PM me if you want to sell, 
I've got some interesting bits for trade to if that is more up your alley.
Thanks,
Tony

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Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

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That's the earliest catalog I have. Does anyone have some scans of catalogs or 
frame brochures earlier than #5 (1999)? I think Keith is right.

-Norm


  From: iamkeith <keithhar...@gmail.com>
 To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> 
Cc: bone1...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling
   


On Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 4:49:17 PM UTC-7, Norman Bone wrote:
Thanks Hugh!
It looks like 59 was a large as you could go with 26. Catalog says 61, 63 and 
65 went to 700c


I'm guessing that this particular catalog excerpt was from later in the period 
of model availability, and reflected a change that occurred at some point.   As 
noted, mine is 60cm and has 26" wheels.   And I know of at least one larger 
than mine (assuming 61cm, picture attached below) that also has 26" wheels.   
Prior to 1999, it may be that this size still fell below the "cutoff" between 
26 and 700c, or it may just be the case that nothing larger was ever 
ordered/built.    
I still kind of think that, at first,  they were ALL  26" though.   Remember 
that the original reason for using 26" tires was that there were no 700c tires 
that had enough volume. (Or at least very few.)  At some point, that obviously 
changed.
If I'm correct, it looks like the change might have actually happened mid 1999, 
comparing with Norman's info,  and corresponded to a change in builders  (Joe 
Starck, earlier in the year, used 26", and Match, later in the year, used 
700c?)  Or who knows... maybe there was an option to choose for a short period 
during the overlap.


  

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Re: [RBW] FS: Riv ShopSack, medium green

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Hey Joe-I'll take it. Are you in Portland too?
-Norm in Woodstock


  From: Joe Bernard 
 To: RBW Owners Bunch  
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 6:58 PM
 Subject: [RBW] FS: Riv ShopSack, medium green
   
Bought last year for a front porteur rack which never seems to find its way to 
a bike I own, I'll probably end up selling that, too.
$50 shipped, includes a black bungee net.


   

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Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

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Thanks Hugh!
It looks like 59 was a large as you could go with 26. Catalog says 61, 63 and 
65 went to 700c
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  From: Hugh Smitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com>
 To: RBW Owners Bunch <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling
   
Yeah Norm we know you have this beauty!! Thanks for rubbing it in dude :)
~Hugh

“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance, you must keep moving.” ― 
Albert Einstein
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On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 3:28 PM, 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch 
<rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I have a 59 AR with 26" wheels. match built in '99.
-Norm in PDX
Rivendell All Rounder

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  From: Steven Sweedler <sweed...@gmail.com>
 To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com" <rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling
  
Do any listmembers have a large Riv All Rounder w/26" wheels. I recall that the 
first AR's in all sizes were 26" wheeled. Can anyone verify. My own AR is from 
2000, a 64 cm and is 700 c.  SteveApache Junction, Az.

On Wednesday, February 17, 2016, Hugh Smitham <hughsmit...@gmail.com> wrote:

It's my perception that the 26" wheel is easier to get rolling and keep rolling 
than 650b & 700c wheels. For me at least my Atlantis seems to climb better than 
those other sizes and I have all three sizes. I've seen old MTB & Touring large 
frames with 26" and the riders didn't seem to mind. I'll grant that the larger 
wheel size looks proportionally better on a large frame. And I hear a lot of 
comments on off road riding that the 29er size rolls over obstructions better 
than the 26" but I have no practical experience with that size off road. My 26" 
wheels have always been fine off road. On availability I've been told the 26" 
wheel size is ubiquitous overseas, so if you're a world traveler then it would 
seem prudent to use a 26" wheel. 
We're witnessing a boom in adventure bikes in the 29er and 27.5 category. Those 
sizes seem risky overseas for the availability issue I mentioned above. Beyond, 
availability and aesthetic what makes those sizes better than 26"? It's not 
chubbier tires because the smaller wheel size can accommodate more rubber with 
correct frame clearance design, example fat tire bikes & the Rawland Ravn and I 
get the proportion deal but it all seems like a component manufacturers push. 
I'm sure there's a Jan Heine article out there on why 650b is the favored 
randonneur wheel size but I bet a 26" would work fine for those events. Anyway, 
very good question John. It seems the question has been answered regarding why 
Riv doesn't have 26" in the larger sized frames. 

Tail Winds,
~Hugh    



On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 10:46:53 AM UTC-8, john wrote:
I'm wondering about the difference in tire sizes for loaded touring.
Wouldn't a 26" wheel work better for loaded touring, regardless of the frame 
size?
Why therefore doesn't Rivendell offer 26" wheels in their larger 
touring-capable frames, like the Atlantis and Hunq?
What am I missing here?
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Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling

['Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I have a 59 AR with 26" wheels. match built in '99.
-Norm in PDX
Rivendell All Rounder

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  From: Steven Sweedler 
 To: "rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com"  
 Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 1:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [RBW] 26" vs. 700c for touring/load hauling
   
Do any listmembers have a large Riv All Rounder w/26" wheels. I recall that the 
first AR's in all sizes were 26" wheeled. Can anyone verify. My own AR is from 
2000, a 64 cm and is 700 c.  SteveApache Junction, Az.

On Wednesday, February 17, 2016, Hugh Smitham  wrote:

It's my perception that the 26" wheel is easier to get rolling and keep rolling 
than 650b & 700c wheels. For me at least my Atlantis seems to climb better than 
those other sizes and I have all three sizes. I've seen old MTB & Touring large 
frames with 26" and the riders didn't seem to mind. I'll grant that the larger 
wheel size looks proportionally better on a large frame. And I hear a lot of 
comments on off road riding that the 29er size rolls over obstructions better 
than the 26" but I have no practical experience with that size off road. My 26" 
wheels have always been fine off road. On availability I've been told the 26" 
wheel size is ubiquitous overseas, so if you're a world traveler then it would 
seem prudent to use a 26" wheel. 
We're witnessing a boom in adventure bikes in the 29er and 27.5 category. Those 
sizes seem risky overseas for the availability issue I mentioned above. Beyond, 
availability and aesthetic what makes those sizes better than 26"? It's not 
chubbier tires because the smaller wheel size can accommodate more rubber with 
correct frame clearance design, example fat tire bikes & the Rawland Ravn and I 
get the proportion deal but it all seems like a component manufacturers push. 
I'm sure there's a Jan Heine article out there on why 650b is the favored 
randonneur wheel size but I bet a 26" would work fine for those events. Anyway, 
very good question John. It seems the question has been answered regarding why 
Riv doesn't have 26" in the larger sized frames. 

Tail Winds,
~Hugh    



On Tuesday, February 16, 2016 at 10:46:53 AM UTC-8, john wrote:
I'm wondering about the difference in tire sizes for loaded touring.
Wouldn't a 26" wheel work better for loaded touring, regardless of the frame 
size?
Why therefore doesn't Rivendell offer 26" wheels in their larger 
touring-capable frames, like the Atlantis and Hunq?
What am I missing here?
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Re: [RBW] Re: Nomenclature

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Alright sticker peeps, here's the deal.
Send me a self addressed stamped envelope with a dollar for each sticker you 
want and I'll send them out. If we burn through this initial 100 and there is 
still demand, I'll do another run.
Send to:
Norman Bone5807 SE 47th AvePortland, OR97206
Weird obituaries, funny news articles, odd photos, wacky drawings or poems or 
any off the wall material is appreciated with your order.

Norm 'Gimmee a dolla' Bone in wet and wild Portland, OR (Don't move here, it's 
not like the TV show)


  From: Zed Martinez 
 To: RBW Owners Bunch  
 Sent: Friday, January 15, 2016 4:34 PM
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Nomenclature
   
If they're the size from the file they should be right at about 2x3". Like a 
shorter business card.

On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 7:24:24 PM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
Will it fit on a seat tube or a 40 mm fender?
At least, one will go on my car.
On Fri, Jan 15, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Zed Martinez  wrote:

Just got this picture in my email. Working out the payment/shipping logistics. 
Will report back soon. Thanks for your patience, everyone.
http://zedmartinez.com/ samples/2016-01-15.jpg

On Friday, December 11, 2015 at 11:14:13 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote:
2) Rivendell's retail store is called:
--Bike, Book and Hatchet
--The Luggery
--Ol' Man Petersen's House of Ferrous Velocipedes and Canvas Curios
--The Lug N' Tug

I rather like #3.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Red

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Pretty sure that is a Joe Starck built custom and not an Atlantis (see 
comments). -Norm in PDX
President Jimmy Carter with his Rivendell Atlantis

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  From: Surlyprof jmcclu...@gmail.com
 To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 8:06 PM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Red
   
It was driving me crazy trying to remember where I had seen a red Atlantis!  
I've also always liked Dave's Homer.  I've never seen it in person but the 
photo looked like a warm, metallic red. 
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/staff1.htm
John



On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 2:52:33 PM UTC-7, Chris Lampe 2 wrote:

I like the shade of red on Jimmy Carter's Atlantis:



On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 1:38:35 PM UTC-5, John Hawrylak wrote:
Did Rivendell ever use a shade of RED on their standard models???  If so can 
anyone provide a photo or a link to an article, reader, etc describing or 
showing it?I thought one model had a red.   I think they favor the creamy 
shades.  I know, they tend to favor blues/greys from their recent blugs.
I want to have my 1988 Panasonic Schwinn Voyageur painted in RED, and would 
like to know what if any shade Riv used in the past.   I was favoring the 
1970's Schwinn Opaque Red (non-metallic).
The frame is the original Emerald Green, which is not high on favorites.  
However, the paint has held up very good considering the 25 years.  Schwinn was 
using a clearcoat at that time, which may have helped.  Keeping it indoors 
(garage, shed) and not in a parking lot, like a car, probably also helps the 
paint.
TIA.
John HawrylakWoodstown NJ

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[RBW] FS: Brooks C17 Natural

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FS. Brooks C17. Natural. Purchased new from Riv. Mounted and ridden 30 miles 
and removed. No clamp marks. Essentially still brand new.  $135+shipping. Pix 
available.

Norm in PDX bone1966 at yahoo dot com
  

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[RBW] FS: Brooks C17 Natural

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Brooks C17. Natural. Purchased new from Riv. Mounted and ridden 30 miles and 
removed. No clamp marks. Essentially still brand new. My butt prefers the B17. 
$140+shipping. I can email you a pic if you want.

Norm in PDX

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Spotted on Bike Portland site

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Looks to be an All Rounder.
-Norm in PDX
  From: JohnS sharp...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 7:01 PM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivendell Spotted on Bike Portland site
   
So which model Riv is it??? 


On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 1:24:56 PM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
http://bikeportland.org/2015/ 06/03/ride-exploring-barney- 
reservoir-rugged-timber-roads- west-forest-grove-143402

Looks like a great outing!
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Re: [RBW] Brilliant Bicycle Company

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Brilliant Bicycles are hand-crafted at a state-of-the-art, wind-powered 
manufacturing facility in Taiwan. 
  From: Eric Daume ericda...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, May 29, 2015 1:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [RBW] Brilliant Bicycle Company
   
I really doubt those are MUSA at that price.


On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:

Thought this might be of interest to the group—a new company selling simple 
MUSA bicycles:
http://techcrunch.com/2015/05/27/ex-vcs-launch-brilliant-bicycle-co-with-1-5-million-in-funding/?ncid=rsscps=gravity_1462_4834067520792034342#.7chmya:hLTJ
 
According to the article, their goal is to sell “reasonably priced bikes to 
people who care more about simplicity and color than specs and ounces.
Hmmm … who else does that? They also point at mainstream cycling companies 
whose ads feature, pictures of high-end racing bikes ridden by middle-aged, 
spandex-clad men.
Oh, by the way, their prices start at $299 with free shipping in the USA. 
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Re: [RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

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Was this during World Naked Bike Ride?
-Norm who has not experienced ass hair yankage with his Cambium in PDX
  From: Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 1:52 PM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question
   
Maybe TMI, maybe a laugh for some, but definitely worth considering: Has anyone 
experienced the Cambium saddle pulling their butt hair? It's terribly 
uncomfortable for me to ride ... I tried two different saddles, two different 
times, two miles each time and it was too unbearable.



On Sunday, 29 March 2015 20:32:58 UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
If you have used both, does the Cambiums flex reduce road shock as nicely as 
the sprung Flyer does? I hate road shock, It hurts my back. Interested in 
Cambium though because of its waterproof-ness.
I asked Brooks if they were going to have a sprung Cambium, and they said no 
because the flex properties on the Cambium do the job well.Wondered if you all 
think so.Thanks for any info.I like that it is not affected by rain like the 
leather.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Bar end vs. down tube shifting... What's your experience...

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All-Is anyone still making indexed DT shifters?
-Norman 'waiting for the Pineapple Express in PDX' Bone   

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Re: [RBW] Re: PSA: Gorgeous Custom on the 'Bay

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Looks like a '99 All Rounder to me (same lugs as my '99 anyway). Geo chart 
here:http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/gen1/rivcat05_framespecs.jpg

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  From: cyclotour...@gmail.com cyclotour...@gmail.com
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 Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 11:22 AM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: PSA: Gorgeous Custom on the 'Bay
   
Agreed, the measurements aren't all that helpful. I mean, it's great to know 
the stem length is 8cm and all, but I'd rather know the top tube length and 
seat tube angle :-)
Most Rivendell owners know their bikes down to the mm, or maybe I'm projecting 
again... :-)



On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:43:42 AM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
I asked about the top tube length, if he replies and doesn't post it to the 
listing, I'll post it here

On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 10:08:17 AM UTC-5, Minh wrote:
Hmmm, sizing description is a little confusing...saddle tip to handlebar 
middle? the body measurements suggest a long top tube.

On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 9:52:45 AM UTC-4, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ 201205334712

Stunning, absolutely stunning.

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[RBW] Large Saddlesack space between rack and saddle loop

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Hello-
I have 11 of space from the saddle loops to the rack on my AR. I'm wanting to 
buy and run a large Riv Saddlesack there but I was wondering if that is too 
much space. The specs for the bag make it seem that up to 9 is the max. Anyone 
using a large saddlesack with more than 9 of air between the saddle loops and 
your rack?

Thanks-

Norm in Portland

PS. I emailed Riv already and was told 'I don't know' in reply.

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Re: [RBW] FS: Nitto R14 Top Rack, Trangia Large Anodized Cookset

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Hey Zack-

Are the struts cut on the rack?

-Norm





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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 9:42 AM
Subject: [RBW] FS: Nitto R14 Top Rack, Trangia Large Anodized Cookset
 


Selling some lightly used stuff.

Nitto Top Rack, 95 Shipped.  

Trangia cookset, anodized aluminum, the big set, with the big trangia kettle.  
110 Shipped.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?

[Norman Bone]

Aren't you President of the Red Wing Chukka Club of Portland, OR?

Hey man, I'm happy ... dressing like a mild-mannered mental patient or a 
bewildered Icelandic exchange student circa 1984. Don't hate me 'cause I'm 
beautiful.

-Norm 'core' Bone in Portland, OR





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Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2014 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell: Normcore for Cyclists?
 


I will make a blanket statement I will regret making later:

fashionistas of any persuasion are fundamentally unhappy people

there I said it



On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Chris Chen cc...@nougat.org wrote:

I think it comes down to the intent, right?


Normcore sounds like people being jerks.


At it's worst, Rivendellianism resembles it, if you take the unracer thing to 
mean antiracer. But it can also mean something else: have lots of bike fun.


cc



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   This is funny , wearing whatever clothes you want is now some kind of 
movement ?   Ahahahaha !    The One of Infinite Means that dresses in 
whatever clothes they wish, BAM I AM :) 

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Re: [RBW] 7 speed cassette question

[Norman Bone]

Hey Jim-

Seems that the 8spd cassettes have the somewhat useless 11t cog on the 
cassettes that have the 30+ tooth big cog that I'm pretty sure that Zack 
needs/wants. However, the 7spds have 13-30 or 34 and seem to have more useful 
gears for PDX.

-Norman Bone friction shifting 9spd 13-30 in Portland





 From: Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com
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Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2014 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] 7 speed cassette question
 


Why not just go 8 speed if you are shifting friction anyway?  8 speed gear is 
far more prevalent than 7 speed gear in this day and age, and you'll probably 
pay less for it than you would some relatively rare 7 speed gear.  $0.02.




On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Zack zack...@gmail.com wrote:

hey all -


i think i'd like to convert my Rivs to 7 speed cassettes.  my drivetrains 
could probably both use an overhaul, so i figure this is a great chance to 
make the switch.  I have always had some problems with ghost shifting under 
load (i have checked derailer hanger, it's straight, greased under bottom 
bracket, made sure there are no kinks, replaced worn cassette, tightened my 
silver shifters, done all the suggested things,), and want to see if this 
switch will help/eliminate and get me to heaven.


My setup:


Shimano X7 rear hub.
Shimano Deore RD.
Sugino Xd2 triple crank
Silver shifters


I live in portland and am a big dude, and andy and chris always take me on 
rides that involve some climbing so I'd like to have a good bailout gear.


What do you guys recommend for a 7 speed cassette?  I understand I'd need a 
spacer and 7 speed chain to make it work, anything else?  How hard would it be 
to make the swap myself?  (I have a chain whip and the park tools cassette 
tool, I have swapped out my 8 speed cassettes before.)


Side note: why doesn't Riv sell 7 speed cassettes?  

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[RBW] Re: Compass 26 tire vs. Soma New Express 26 tire.

[Norman Bone]

I have less than 50 miles on mine so not much to report. They seem to ride 
fine. Not night and day from the Panaracer Hi-Road tires I had before. May be 
hairsplitting but I can tell you that the 1.75 measures 1.6 on a Velocity 
Aeroheat rim.

-Norman in PDX.





 From: WETH erlhous...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 4, 2014 11:50 AM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Compass 26 tire vs. Soma New Express 26 tire.
 


Dear Clayton or others with experience with the Compass 26x1.75 tire,
I am about to purchase the Compass 26x1.75, but thought I would ask for any 
feedback on the tires from real world use.
Many thanks,


On Saturday, June 22, 2013 12:41:16 PM UTC-4, Clayton wrote:
Thanks everyone for your feedback. Greatly appreciated. I went ahead and 
ordered a pair of CompassesI had a set of Avocet's 26 1.75 tires back in 
the day and loved them. I expect these should be even nicer. Again, Thanks.

On Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:26:05 PM UTC-7, clayton wrote:
I just did a picture comparison between the two. They have exactly the same 
tread. Both are made in Japan. Both claim low rolling resistance. Soma's are 
cheaper by about ten to 20 bucks and come in terracotta and cream as well as 
black. I think Compass tires and the Somas are the same tire, made by 
Panaracer. Does anyone know for sure?
The terra cotta would look groovy on my olive green Atlantis.;)
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[RBW] Caveman ketchup

[Norman Bone]

The horse is dead. For the love of Henry J. Heinz, take this offline!

For Deacon Patrick frown,

-Norm 'old stick in the ketchup' Bone




 From: Chris Halasz chal...@gmail.com
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Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 9:29 PM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Caveman ketchup
 

Patrick, 

If it hasn't been mentioned already, Westbrae vegetarian unsweetened ketchup. 

We usually find it at Whole Foods. 

Very nice; we like it more than any sweetened. 

Please let us know what you think. 

Cheers, 

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Re: [RBW] Portland Area Country Bike Group

[Norman Bone]

Dude, you stole my idea and didn't name it after me???  :)  





 From: Andy Smitty Schmidt 54ca...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 4:57 PM
Subject: [RBW] Portland Area Country Bike Group
 


It seems Portland area rides happen with some frequency. When they get posted 
on this list they can get buried or become clutter for those not near Portland. 
In an effort to focus announcements for Portland area rides, I've created a 
google group. 

Mason Hill Rabble Rousers Fan Club

The idea is that this will be for ride announcements and coordination. This is 
not a discussion group for bicycles or gear. 


Feel free to request to join if you want to be in the know for Portland area 
rides of the country bike persuasion. 

--Smitty





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[RBW] 65cm Riv Redwood on PDX CL

[Norman Bone]

Man, haven't seen one of these in a while!

No affiliation, blah, blah.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/4059216795.html

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[RBW] FS: Suntour shifters, Paul brakes, Phil hub, parts for sale

[Norman Bone]

Cleaning out the stash:
Pix here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonehaus/sets/72157629348609808/

Prices plus actual shipping. Paypal or check is fine.

Phil Wood rear hub - Used, good
Freewheel hub, 7spd
135 OLD
Bearings good, never abused
$90

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22.2 100mm ext
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Suntour Sprint shifters - Brand New
LD-4850 
$50
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Paul Neo Retro brakes -Brand New in sealed bag
1 wheel's worth. 
Includes Kool Stop Salmon pads.
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1 pair of Mavic rims 26 (559). Brand new. Never laced up.
Model 238
36 hole
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[RBW] FS: Parts for sale

[Norman Bone]

Bike parts for sale
Pix here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonehaus/sets/72157629348609808/

Prices plus actual shipping. Paypal or check is fine.

Ritchey CompLite stem - New
22.2 100mm ext
$45
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Suntour Sprint shifters - New
LD-4850 
$50
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Deore 7sp thumbshifters - Very Good
SL-MT62
$35
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1 wheel's worth. 
Includes Kool Stop Salmon pads.
$85 
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Wheelset 700c

I had these built by Coventry Cycle Works for a project I've since abandoned.

Front (never mounted on a bike):
Mavic MA2 rim, 32 hole - Brand new
SunTour XC 9000 hub - Brand new
DT Comp spokes 14/15 - Brand new

Rear (never mounted on a bike):
Mavic MA2 rim, 32 hole - Brand new
Shimano 600. 7spd hub - Rebuilt.
DT Comp spokes 14/15 - Brand new
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[RBW] Nice Heron Touring on PDX CL

[Norman Bone]

No connection to seller. Seems like a good price for a nice bike.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3786218056.html

-Norm in PDX

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[RBW] FS: Paul Neo Retro Brakes - NIB

[Norman Bone]

Brand new Paul Neo Retro brakes. Silver.
1 wheel's worth. 
Brand new in sealed bag. Includes Kool Stop Salmon pads.
Pic of brakes inside a plastic bag available.

$95 shipped. PayPal or check.

Thanks-

Norm in Portland, OR

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[RBW] Rambouillet on PDX CL

[Norman Bone]

Not mine. Pretty sure Rambos weren't made by Waterford, right?

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3753972062.html

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[RBW] Rear rack advice/suggestions

[Norman Bone]

Looking for a nice silver rear rack for my A/R. Something that can take 
panniers. I was looking at this one at Riv (Nitto Big Back Rack): 
http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/r4.htm . 

Anyone have experience with it? 

Any other silver racks I should be looking at?

-Norman in PDX

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[RBW] 60cm Rambouillet on PDX CL

[Norman Bone]

Not mine.

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3714729944.html

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[RBW] Get a Betty Foy, old man

[Norman Bone]

Study says old men should ride B. Foys.

http://www.thelocal.se/47064/20130331/#.UVsYP0rDmRJ

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Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

[Norman Bone]

The oldest catalog I have is '99 and ARs were 1575.

-Norm in PDX





 From: hsmitham hughsmit...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 8:11 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.
 

Edwin I was thinking the same thing. What did they sell for back in the day? 
Joe how can you tell its a respray? 

Hugh
Sunland, CA

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:48:14 PM UTC-7, Edwin W wrote:

If that frame sells for $1500, it sure did hold its value!
What did that frame set go for in 1995/6?


Edwin
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Re: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

[Norman Bone]

IIRC, you could get canti or sidepull. At least early on.

-Norm in PDX.





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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.
 

Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right?
 

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:50:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress. com/blog/
Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. 
Cheers! 
cm
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[RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.

[Norman Bone]

Corrected:


IIRC, you could get canti or sidepull for the LL. At least early on.

-Norm in PDX.





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Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2013 7:06 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Another All Rounder on the Bay.
 

Are we sure it's an A/R? The 700c LongLow came with cantis, right?
 

On Tuesday, March 26, 2013 6:50:00 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
It is also on Ant's site: http://antbikemike.wordpress. com/blog/
Little more info and am sure Mike could answer any questions. 
Cheers! 
cm
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Re: [RBW] Horizontal Drop outs??? was: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty Rumpkins

[Norman Bone]

The early Riv models (Long Low, Road Standard and All-Rounder) were considered 
production. If you wanted to deviate from how they were configured, Riv charged 
a 'Custom' fee. See the 'Custom frames' heading at the bottom:

http://www.cyclofiend.com/Images/rbw/gen1/rivcat05_framespecs.jpg

I don't know what Grant's rationale for the horizontal drop outs was. Wheelbase 
adjustability? Maybe he'll speak to it?


-Norm riding a horizontal drop out Production AR in PDX




 From: cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2013 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Horizontal Drop outs??? was: Bombadil v. 2.0 and new Fatty 
Rumpkins
 

I think horizontals are only on Rivendell customs, and then only when asked 
for. I don't believe any of their production bikes have ever had horizontal or 
semi-horizontal. 




On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Aaron Young 1ce...@gmail.com wrote:

As was suggested by William I'm starting a new thread with the question 
Jonathan posted below. I hope Jonathan won't mind.  I'm interested in this 
question as well because, well... I'd simply like to know more about this 
topic.  Anyone have anything to add?


Aaron Young
Vancouver, WA


On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Jonathan Poor jpoorra...@aol.com wrote:

This leads me to ask a question I've had for a while: 


What ever happened to the early Riv devotion to horizontal dropouts?  I guess 
I'd prefer I nice long dropout to either of these mentioned options!


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[RBW] Blue 60cm Rambouillet on Portland CL

[Norman Bone]

No affiliation with seller:

http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/bik/3630070822.html

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Re: [RBW] My Riv AllRounder

[Norman Bone]

AW-

Thanks for sharing those. I remember seeing pix of your AR before I ordered 
mine and thinking how awesome and fun it looked. Nice to be reminded of the 
utility and versatility of the mighty AR. Of course, orange makes it faster.

- Norm also with an orange AR in PDX





 From: Addison Wilhite addisonwilh...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:43 AM
Subject: [RBW] My Riv AllRounder
 

I was reminiscing about all the fun I've had over the years and so I pulled 
together this collection of photos.  Some good times and it's still going 
strong.  I marvel at how adept it is at most things.  My first real ride on it 
was a 60 mile multi-surface ride that got me lost somewhere along the NV/CA 
border.  Good times!

Hope you enjoy:

http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2013/01/rivendell-allrounder-jack-of-all.html


-- 
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Re: [RBW] My Riv AllRounder

[Norman Bone]

AW-

There's some in this pool on flickr.:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/allrounder/

-Norm





 From: Addison Wilhite addisonwilh...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 8:07 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] My Riv AllRounder
 

Thanks!  Nice to hear there are some ARs out there.  I wonder how many since 
Riv has kind of moved away from that initial design (although arguably all of 
their bikes are ARs).

Regards,



On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:00 AM, Norman Bone bone1...@yahoo.com wrote:

AW-

Thanks for sharing those. I remember seeing pix of your AR before I ordered 
mine and thinking how awesome and fun it looked. Nice to be reminded of the 
utility and versatility of the mighty AR. Of course, orange makes it faster.

- Norm also with an orange AR in PDX







 From: Addison Wilhite addisonwilh...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 5:43 AM
Subject: [RBW] My Riv AllRounder
 

I was reminiscing about all the fun I've had over the years and so I pulled 
together this collection of photos.  Some good times and it's still going 
strong.  I marvel at how adept it is at most things.  My first real ride on it 
was a 60 mile multi-surface ride that got me lost somewhere along the NV/CA 
border.  Good times!


Hope you enjoy:


http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2013/01/rivendell-allrounder-jack-of-all.html



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[RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale

[Norman Bone]

There's a Flickr group with some color pix of All Rounders.


http://www.flickr.com/groups/allrounder/

-Norman in PDX




 From: Michael john11.2...@gmail.com
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Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 2:21 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: All-Rounder for sale
 

Wow! That is pretty.
I have seen these on the grainy pics of the RReaders, but never in color. Very 
nice looking bike.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer

[Norman Bone]

Hi Steve-

Have you read this?:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/Presence-of-Mind-Buckle-Up-And-Behave.html

Norman in Portland, OR




 From: Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com
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Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Grant on Brian Lehrer
 
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 12:47 -0700, Jim Cloud wrote:
 
 I also don't agree with Grant that wearing a helmet necessarily
 promotes a riskier still of riding.  I've ridden both without a helmet
 and with a helmet, and I don't believe that my riding style changes
 one iota.

Were the safety equipment begets riskier activity argument true, when
we look back on driving cars in the 1950s -- back in the days of
spear-you-through-the-chest steering columns and steel dashboards with
big knobs that would smash your skull and no seatbelts so you'd go
flying through the windshield or into the dashboard or get impaled on
the steering column -- you would expect to see safer driving habits than
you see now.  And those of us who were there can tell you with
authority, there was no such thing.





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[RBW] 53cm Atlantis on PDX CL

[Norman Bone]

On the PDX CL. Not mine:

http://portland.craigslist.org/wsc/bik/3145595792.html

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell MTB sold on EBay

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Here's my 59cm All Rounder running 26x1.5.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonehaus/7151248901/in/photostream/

-Norman in PDX




 From: John Speare j...@phred.org
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivendell MTB sold on EBay
 

650b is cool and all, but I agree with the 26'ers.
 
I don't have good technical reasons for loving 26 on bigger bikes, but I love 
them I do. One of my favorite rides in the past year was borrowing Alex 
Wetmore's 26 Gifford for a few days: it's essentially an XO1 with low trail. 
With the fancy Compass tires, I was equally happy on the road, trail, and even 
down a flight of stairs by the U district.
 
And for bikes in the smaller sizes, 26s make great sense. More sense than 650bs 
to me.
 
Here's my wife's repurposed XO1.
 
hard not to love that wheel size for a 52cm frame.
 

On Monday, July 9, 2012 10:40:18 AM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
Come on, get a bombadil and ride the 650b wave! Then again for the price of a 
built bombadil you are almost at full custom prices. Can you just get the canti 
studs on a 58 set up for 26 wheels withouth borking the geometry?

On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Cyclofiend Jim cyclofi...@earthlink.net 
wrote:


The only stuff I have posted on the Mountain frame is here:

http://www.cyclofiend.com/rbw/gen1/#mtnframe

(and there's a link there to a thread about the Generation 1 frames.)

- J


On Sunday, July 8, 2012 9:44:40 PM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
... (I know that the mtb was only a 55cm, but I was 

guessing that it had a higher bottom bracket.)
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[RBW] Wide profile canti brake recs

[Norman Bone]

I need to raise the cable hanger on my front brake to accommodate the diving 
board for a Mark's Rack. The current low profile brakes are marginal (at best) 
with the hanger closer to the tire and I anticipate that they will not cut the 
mustard if I raise the hanger another inch or so. I'm using the Tiagra aero 
levers that Riv sells.

That being said, I'd like to install a wide profile canti on the front that 
would work well with my existing levers. What wide profile brake have you had a 
good experience with on your Riv with an aero lever? How high are you running 
the hanger from the tire? 


Thanks-

Norm in PDX

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Re: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring

[Norman Bone]

Hi Jim-

Could you expand on what 'good things happened to bikes' (Riv ARs) since 1996?

-Norm in PDX




 From: Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:12 AM
Subject: RE: [RBW] Re: All Rounder vs Bleriot for light touring
 
I guess I should have read more carefully, as I think 1996 when I think of 
ARs, and a lot of good things have happened to bikes since 1996. This newer 
Curt-built AR is a good price, if it fits... I'd be tempted if I didn't already 
have several bikes that fill that role. 

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Re: [RBW] Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style

[Norman Bone]

Nice pix bro. Did you take a tent or some other shelter?

-Norm




 From: Smitty 54ca...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 9:01 PM
Subject: [RBW] Bi-State s36o... Cascadia Style
 

In case you haven't looked at a map lately... the southern WA Cascades are 
pretty accessible from Portland, OR. A buddy laid out the route to Sunset Falls 
and invited me along with he and some other bike camping friends. I've been on 
a coupe multi-night bike camping trips with my family but this was my first 
s24o type trip. I was gone from home for about 32 hours... so s36o seems a 
little more technically accurate. 

Pics give some sort of idea what it was like... but you really had to be there. 

--Smitty 
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[RBW] FS. parts for sale

[Norman Bone]

Clearing out the stash. Prices plus actual shipping. Paypal or check is fine.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonehaus/sets/72157629348609808/


-Norm in sopping wet PDX, OR



Brooks Champion Flyer saddle
Honey, small copper rivets, black rails/springs. New. $110

Ritchey Comp Lite stem
22.2 100mm extension, new. $50

DiaCompe SS-5 Brake levers
Take offs, Like new $25

DA downtube shift levers
SL-7401, 7spd, very good $15

Campy Record high flange front hub
100mm OLD, 36h, smooth but filthy $20

'vintage' Cannondale tool bag.
tire levers and patch kit $7

2 pair Kool Stop Continental brake pads
Salmon, threaded for side pull brakes, new in package. $5 per pair

RX100 side pull brakes
47-57mm, BR-A550, New in package. $50

SunTour Bar end shifters
1 works smooth, 1 works tight, used. $15

Deore LX hubset 
7spd, HB-M550, 36h, new in box (box is falling apart) $40

Deore Thumbshifters
7spd, SL-MT62, very good. $35

Deore XT Thumbshifters
7spd, M732, new in box $75

Ultegra Rear Derailer
Long cage, RD6500, new in box $40

HG90 8spd cassette
13-26, new in box. $40

Kalloy seat post
27.2, some mild insertion marks $7

Chainrings:
Biopace 52t, new, 130bcd $10
Biopace 42t, very good, 130bcd  $10
Shimano SG, very good, 42t, 130bcd $10
Sugino 48t, new in package, 144bcd $40

DiaCompe ss-5 lever pivot assembly
2 sets, each set has parts for 1 pair of levers. $5 each

SRAM/Sachs freewheels
13-32 7spd. New in package $15
12-28 7spd. New, open package $15

Shimano freewheel
6spd, 14-32, good/used. $10

Shimano RSX rear derailer
Short cage, A416, Very good $20

Christophe steel toe clips
Brand new $10

Christophe toe clip straps
1 black, new in package $5
1 brown, new in package but appears to have some discoloration on buckles $5

SunTour Sprint shift levers
LD4850, new in box $50

Suntour Superbe Pro brake levers
new $40

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[RBW] FS: Brooks Saddles

[Norman Bone]

Hello-

Cleaning out the parts stash.

I have two never ridden, new Brooks saddles for sale.

-B17 Champion Special - Honey, large copper rivets, black rails. New but has 
some minor shelf wear. $100
-Champion Flyer - Honey, small copper rivets, black rails/springs. New. $110

Pictures available upon request. Will charge actual shipping via Priority mail. 
Paypal or check OK.

Thanks-

Norm in sopping wet Portland, OR

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[RBW] 59cm Riv A/R for sale on Bend, OR CL

[Norman Bone]

This looks like a nice score for someone. No affiliation, etc.


http://portland.craigslist.org/grg/bik/2785466823.html

-Norman in PDX

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Re: [RBW] Nitto Mini Rack and Riv All Rounder fork

[Norman Bone]

I wonder if they changed the struts length on the Nitto Mini. The bike was made 
in '99 by match and was spec'd for a Nitto mini, IIRC. I don't think bending 
the struts is an option. The pictures might not show it well enough but if I 
bend the struts down, they will move away from the braze-on since they will 
move in an arc. I'll probably just put the rack on my XO instead. Maybe I'll 
buy  the Mark's Rack from Riv or maybe another one that mounts to the canti 
bosses. The bike was built for 26 wheels, btw.


-Norman in PDX




From: dougP dougpn...@cox.net
To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 9, 2011 12:38 PM
Subject: [RBW] Re: Nitto Mini Rack and Riv All Rounder fork

The little Nitto on my Atlantis is 155 mm.  Steel is highly malleable;
the bend option should work.  You just ID'd the downside to braze-
ons.  I had braze-ons added for my low riders, then changed to a
better rack without thinking to compare mounting points.

dougP

On Nov 9, 10:45 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, you and I are talking about the same rack.  Good theory.

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[RBW] Nitto Mini Rack and Riv All Rounder fork

[Norman Bone]

Hello-
I recently purchased a used Nitto Mini Rack to put on my Riv A/R. To my 
surprise the struts are just short of the braze-ons. I measured the distance 
between the fork crown hole and the braze-on and get 155mm. But the Nitto rack 
measures 150 from the stud to the strut mounting hole. All measurements c-t-c. 
Do you know what the distance usually is on Riv forks from the crown hole to 
the mid-fork braze-on? Do you have a mini rack, if so what does it measure from 
the mounting stud to the strut mounting hole? Any other advice/comments?


Pix here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bonehaus/6328046394/

Thanks-

Norman in PDX

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[RBW] TA Zephyr triple and bb length

[Norman Bone]

Hello-

Are you running a TA Zephyr triple on your Riv? What brand of bb and length are 
you using?

I have a match-built AR with a Phil 123+3 and the teeth on the 42 middle ring 
are so close to the stay I can barely see light in the gap. Wondering if I 
should go longer, live with it or go to a smaller chainring. 


Possible related issue: the chain skates on the middle ring when shifting down 
from the 46t big ring. The rings are not ramped and pinned. Chain angle?


Thanks-

Norm in Portland, OR

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Re: [RBW] TA Zephyr triple and bb length

[Norman Bone]

Good morning-

After doing some reading on PJW's site (http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/) it 
appears that TA switched from ISO to JIS tapers after my cranks were made. So 
how much of an issue is it to use ISO taper cranks on a JIS taper spindle? 
Could someone educate me on this or point me to some further reading?


Thanks-

Norman in Portland, OR




From: Joe Bernard joerem...@gmail.com
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 8:31 AM
Subject: Re: [RBW] TA Zephyr triple and bb length


No daylight between ring and chainstay eventually means a nice gouge in your 
frame. I seem to recall 125mm being spec'd for this application..you need that 
125 Phil.  -- 


On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 8:01 PM, Norman Bone bone1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hello-
 Are you running a TA Zephyr triple on your Riv? What brand of bb and length
 are you using?
 I have a match-built AR with a Phil 123+3 and the teeth on the 42 middle
 ring are so close to the stay I can barely see light in the gap. Wondering
 if I should go longer, live with it or go to a smaller chainring.

 Possible related issue: the chain skates on the middle ring when shifting
 down from the 46t big ring. The rings are not ramped and pinned. Chain
 angle?

 Thanks-
 Norm in Portland, OR

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