[RBW] Re: Supple tires and rim fit trouble
Based on my experience, it may be more related to tubeless rims rather than supple tires. This fall I had an 8 year old 650B Velocity Synergy rear rim crack. I had a local frame builder/mechanic build an new wheel. He wasn't able to order a Synergy, so he got an A-23. I had just switched from Schwalbe Big Ben wire beads to WTB Byways folding beads. The latter is a lighter and tubeless designed tire but not what I would describe as super supple. When the wheel was done, it was very difficult to mount the Byways to the extent I don't think I could have fixed a flat on the roadside. The tolerances were such that the Byway mounted without particular difficulty on the old Synergy and the Big Ben likewise on the A-23. We ended up going with a Dyad rim, which is one mm wider but didn't cause brake issues. It also sounds as though a non-tubeless A-23 was originally manufactured in Australia but when they switched to USA manufacturing, it was for tubeless use with slightly different tolerances. On Thursday, November 30, 2017 at 11:32:24 AM UTC-6, Eric Karnes wrote: > > Hi all- > > I have a question about the fit of supple tires and the way they fit on > rims. > > I've had only two experience with very supple tires. Pari-motos on > Velocity A-23s (650b) and most recently Compass Snoqualmie Passes on Sun > C-18s (700c). Both tires are so tight to the rim they're very difficult to > get off and damned near impossible to get back on. I recently changed a > tube on the Squoqualmie Pass / C-18 wheels and it took me over 30 minutes > to muscle the tire on the rim. Frankly, I don't want to ride the bike, > because if I got a flat after dark, I honestly don't know if I'd be able to > replace the tube/tire in the field. Now, I've changed many, many flats and > have never had this issue with 'regular' tires (usually on OpenPro rims). > It usually takes me under a minute to get a new tube and tire back on. > > So...is a normal experience for these super supple casing tires? Or is > this a 'correlation not causation' situation and I've just been unlucky in > my choice of the rims I paired them with? Any advice would be appreciated! > Thanks guys! > > Eric > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: 650b Commuter Tires: Actual Width of Schwalbe Big Ben Pasela PT
I found my caliper (we are packing for a house move) and measured my last years model Big Bens mounted on Synergy rims. The width was a little over 48 mm rear and a little under 48 front. I didn't check the exact tire pressures but I usually go about 40 r/ 35 f. -Pete On Sunday, April 12, 2015 at 9:05:38 AM UTC-5, David Banzer wrote: Anyone know the actual width of this guy: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/tben-10138r.htm this guy: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/tpp-10142.htm I've been using the new PariMotos, which ride great, but I have gotten a few flats, exclusively in wet weather, and would rather not worry about changing a flat in the rain anymore. Any info is much appreciated. Thanks, David Chicago -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Fenders for the 650b Schwalbe Big Bens
I currently am using 55mm SKS Velo Cross fenders. These are shorter fenders without stays (although you can add some). I opted for these because I have two sets of wheels, currently one with Big Bens and one with B-Lines, and the fit is ok with either. I also have a pair of SKS 55 mm conventional fenders that I formerly had on this bike until I had started using Quasi Motos. If I extended the fender to the ends of the stays they would just fit but with little clearance by the side lugs (and the fender line was quite ugly). I just measured the fender edge to edge chord at 59mm. As my Big Bens only measure 48 mm on Synergy rims, they might fit decently with the 55mm conventional fender. Here is a picture of my Rawland with Big Bens. I made a little extension of the front of the rear fender with duct tape for better coverage. -Pete http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/olsonps/P9190217c.jpg On Monday, September 29, 2014 10:24:04 PM UTC-5, Meade Anderson wrote: Has anybody tired a fender to cover these rubber critters? The tires are big as I just mounted one for testing purposes and needless to say they ain't going to roll with my current Honjo's. I was thinking maybe one of the Planet Bike fenders would work but am welcoming any experience or insight into covering these big rubbers... thanks meade -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] One last time: 559X 32 mm Kojaks versus 559X 32 mm Primo Racers versus others?
I put the 26x1.25 New Express Tires on my wife's small frame Rambouillet last season. They are listed as 330 grams on the Soma paper strip that held them together. They measure about 28.5mm wide on the stock, road oriented rims, which is just about the same as the previous 1.25 Paselas. No flats so far. -Pete On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 9:25:44 AM UTC-5, Patrick Moore wrote: Many thanks, Chris, I'd not heard of these. If it is obviously better than the Pasela, then it's certainly worth investigating. I'll check them out. OS125 cbar...@ase.tufts.edu javascript: said: I recently went to the Soma New Express tire in 700 X 32, and have found it to be an exceptionally smooth-running tire. Soma lists a 26 x 1.25 version in stock. The difference in suppleness of ride between this tire and a Pasela TG is quite obvious to me. The bike feels like a different machine. The nature of my commute, and my unerring ability to ride straight over sparkly bits regardless of how much room and warning is given, assures the flat protection in the new tires would be tested. It has not been found wanting. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?
My tip for the day is be alert to changing road conditions, which can be either obvious or subtle in winter. I had my first road riding fall in about 20 years this morning. I am a semi-retired educator and this is a non-working day for me. I was doing a multiple errand ride to spots 2 miles or so away on my old Bridgestone MB-2 with a trailer. It was 31 F with fog and the black top and concrete did not feel slippery but making a turn I slid out on paint marking the a cross-walk that had an icy glaze, apparently from freezing condensation. The markings were wide paint lines perpendicular to the crossing. I was going less than 10 miles and no significant damage to me or the bike but my helmet did contact the road. I have a second set of wheels for this bike that I keep studded tires on, but I like to postpone putting these on because they do feel appreciably slower. The studded tires work well for most winter conditions but sometimes slush can be a problems; that can float the tires enough that the studs won't contact the payment. I don't attempt to bike the whole way for my school that is more than 10 miles away even in warm weather so no on the main question. As for winter gear, I like this Salice visor. It works better than goggles over prescription glasses for avoiding fogging. Some cross country ski stores carry it. -Pete http://xcski.gearwest.com/product/salice-antifog-visor/400465/393527/1172345/1872659 On Monday, November 11, 2013 10:24:33 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote: Just curious. My commute may get longer soon. I had been doing partial commutes of 5.6 miles from a park-n-ride, but would like to work up to the full 16 mile one-way commute one day. A change in my family's work schedule (3 of us with two cars) may necessitate this sometimes. Any Riv-peeps' cold weather tips? Gets down into the 20's here in the winter. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: Any Rivsters here commute more than 10 miles one-way? Cold weather tips?
A clarification. This is the model visor I have: http://www.nordicskiracer.com/news.asp?NewsID=3489 . It works well over prescription glasses, but I can't find that it is still manufactured and I haven't used the newer Salice visor linked in my last post. On Friday, November 15, 2013 1:15:37 PM UTC-6, Pete Olson wrote: My tip for the day is be alert to changing road conditions, which can be either obvious or subtle in winter. I had my first road riding fall in about 20 years this morning. I am a semi-retired educator and this is a non-working day for me. I was doing a multiple errand ride to spots 2 miles or so away on my old Bridgestone MB-2 with a trailer. It was 31 F with fog and the black top and concrete did not feel slippery but making a turn I slid out on paint marking the a cross-walk that had an icy glaze, apparently from freezing condensation. The markings were wide paint lines perpendicular to the crossing. I was going less than 10 miles and no significant damage to me or the bike but my helmet did contact the road. I have a second set of wheels for this bike that I keep studded tires on, but I like to postpone putting these on because they do feel appreciably slower. The studded tires work well for most winter conditions but sometimes slush can be a problems; that can float the tires enough that the studs won't contact the payment. I don't attempt to bike the whole way for my school that is more than 10 miles away even in warm weather so no on the main question. As for winter gear, I like this Salice visor. It works better than goggles over prescription glasses for avoiding fogging. Some cross country ski stores carry it. -Pete http://xcski.gearwest.com/product/salice-antifog-visor/400465/393527/1172345/1872659 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Re: I really dislike sales tax
I hadn’t noticed before reading this thread that Rivendell carries Devold; I didn’t think that this brand was imported. I have a Devold wool top and a neck warmer from Norway that are very nice. It is the centennial of the Amundsen South Pole expedition and here is a translation of the role of Devold: 1911 - 2011 Amundsen and Devold at the South Pole 100 years ago. December 14, 2011 is the 100th anniversary of Roald Amundsen and his expedition reaching the North Pole. This feat made Amundsen one of history's most famous polar explorers. To survive in the extreme climate, expedition members were also dependent on proper clothing. In 1911, Devold had produced warm clothing made of wool for over 50 years, and was a well-known supplier of durable wool. As Nansen had done before him, for the crossing of Greenland, Amundsen also chose wool from Devold for his expedition. We are proud to have been part of this event. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: the fire trails of the upper midwest
Hi Jim. I’ve had a chance to ride my Rawland a little on trail and mixed paved/gravel roads and the new, wide Noodle bar you guys added works well. I am struck the gravel roads I ride in northwestern Wisconsin are heterogeneous as far as origins, land ownership and responsibility for maintenance. Some of the roads started as wagon roads from the logging era (tote roads), logging railroads (a tip-off is now having “grade” in its name), farm roads or forest roads put in for multi-uses like logging, lake home, cabin and recreational access, and fire control. Besides unpaved farm roads, I ride on roads in county forests, state forests, a national forest, and privately owned commercial forest land. I took a trip last summer to Keweenaw County in U.P. Michigan and I think most of the forest land was in private land holdings that go back to the time of mining exploration. The biggest change I see with most of these roads over the last twenty years has been general “improvement” in the development sense which means widening, straightening, adding gravel and more grading. Unfortunately it is getting harder to find narrow, twisty roads, that tunnel through the trees. Near here, the Chippewa County Forest trails probably come closest to western style fire trails; narrow, in steep glacial moraine, not overly graded, and not plowed in the winter. According to someone I know who lives in the Blue Hills of western Rusk County, the motivation of the local township board for road widening is fear of liability if a driver runs off a road and hits a tree. Bill- I did some riding on the CAMBA system around Hayward and Seeley last fall (Boedecker and Janet Rd and Phipps Fire Lane) and Phipps Ln in particular looked wider and more built up than it was in the 80’s and 90’s. -Pete On May 14, 3:32 am, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com wrote: I've been reading about these fire trails in Grant's writings for years. As far as I know, we don't have fire trails in Minnesota, but we have thousands of miles of rural gravel roads, and races/rides on these gravel roads have exploded in popularity. This weekend I, along with several hundred others, will be riding the Almanzo 100, which is a free-for-all gravel century. Technically it's a race, but I seriously doubt that I'm in contention of finishing much better than middle-of-the-pack. It's arguable that Rivendell has played a role (indirectly) in popularizing this kind of event with Grant's advocacy of tire clearance and riding road bikes on unpaved surfaces. I'll be riding my Atlantis-inspired Goodrich, and I expect to see lots of Rivendells. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Antoine de Saint Exupery quote
This is a reference to the quote in the March 2nd Looking Through the Keyhole. I checked my copy of Wind, Sand and Stars and I think Grant's paraphrase is exact except there is no contraction of there is and a comma instead of the dots. I think that stripped down to its nakedness makes sense after the previous sentence: It is as if there were a natural law which ordained that to achieve this end [the principal of simplicity, mentioned in the preceding paragraph], to refine the curve of a piece of furniture, or a ship's keel, or the fuselage of an airplane, until gradually it partakes of the elementary purity of the curve of a human breast or shoulder, there must be the experimentation of several generations of craftsmen. This is a translation from the original French. -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Antoine de Saint Exupery quote
On Mar 2, 6:28 pm, Pete Olson apol...@centurytel.net wrote: This is a reference to the quote in the March 2nd Looking Through the Keyhole. Or that might have been Peeking Through the Knothole. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: bridgestone mountain bike fit
Tom- I wouldn’t automatically reject the 49cm size; I think it might depend on what handlebar height you prefer and what sort of terrain you will be riding. I have a 1992 MB-2 in 49 cm. When I bought it, I found it quite comfortable but as I have gotten older, I lost my tolerance for long rides with the handlebars below saddle height. (When purchased in spring 1993, the dealer had added a Softride shock stem, which may effectively have lowered the bar a little and stretched out the reach.) I have an 86 pbh and fairly long torso and arms. I used to ride a 56 cm horizontal top tube road bike but now am on a 59 cm Romulus with the bars a little above the saddle. I added a stem riser to the MB-2 last summer and am currently using it as a winter utility bike with studded tires. Anyway, for me currently, I think the next size up (52cm) Bridgestone would be a better fit and would be -7cm compared to a RBW road bike. -Pete On Jan 23, 4:45 pm, tlawnsby tlawn...@clearwire.net wrote: Hi, Just curious if anyone has a Bridgestone mountain bike and how much shorter the size is vs your road bike. I had a new Bridgestone MB in the early 90's and loved it, but can't remember the size. There's another one on craigslist that I have an opportunity to purchase. My PBH is 82 -- I normally ride a 21 (53cm) regular road bike, and I have a 56cm Rambouillet which is perfect. The MB-4 for sale is a 19 c-t -- I can try it out later this week but it's kind of a long drive, hate to waste the time if there's no chance of it fitting. Thanks, Tom. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Years Day Ride
My New Year’s Day ride was short but had variety. The Christmas storm in northern Wisconsin included snow, sleet, and freezing rain that has left an icy rutted surface on the local back roads. I rode my ’92 Bridgestone MB2 with studded tires on various paved and unpaved roads (basically irrelevant with the icy snow cover), a snowmobile trail, and frozen lake. The tires worked very well on the roads, surprisingly pretty well on the snowmobile trail, but not well at all on the lake (I didn’t have enough floatation on the crusty snow but couldn’t get traction on the lake ice). It was 10 F air temperature with a 9 mph wind. Unfortunately, today started quite a bit colder, -15 F. My wife and I are waiting for it to warm up to -5 to go cross country skiing. -Pete -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Winter Riding Clothing
I would second Mojo's recommendation of Sporthill XC pants. The fabric is a very good compromise of wicking, wind resistance, and breathability. I have an over 10 year old pair that has been heavily used and hasn't worn out yet. An approach for blocking windchill without excessive condensation is using base or insulating layers with a windblock fabric on the front only. Craft makes base layer tops and bottoms this way. Shops that have cross country gear are good places to look for winter gear and often, in northern Wisconsin where I live as well as UP Michigan, these are also bike shops. For wool loving traditionalists, I have recently discovered Kühl, who make technical blends of wool and fleece and an acrylic/polyester blend top that I have that looks very much like boiled wool. -Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[RBW] Re: Other Riv-ish companies of interest to us all
So, what other companies fall in this category for you guys? I have thought of the similarities of Rivendell and Peter Limmer and Sons Boots, http://www.limmerboot.com/. There is about a 3 1/2 year wait the last I heard for the customs, which did cost $600 and are now probably more (they make a wood copy of the customers foot to build the shoe around). I bought a pair of off the shelves a few years ago at half the price but still sent two sets of foot tracings and had several phone calls and emails. I remember my wife telling me there was a really long message on my answering machine from some guy named Carl with a New England accent looking at my tracings and wondering if I had a hammer toe (I don't). There is also a high degree of customer loyalty with pictures on the website of wedding parties in Limmer boots or the boots with Mt. Everest in the background that people have sent in. -Pete --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
