[RBW] Re: Bomb(s)
Hi, The ride is what matters to me. The water bottle setup with the diagonal tube will be odd to me. The frame doesn't need to be any stiffer. I have a 60cm Bombadil with Velocity Dyad rims, 40 spoke rear/36 front, and it rides like a wet noodle. It shimmies all over the place. In fact, I think it's borderline dangerous. I also have to trim the front derailleur all the way to the right when I stand and climb otherwise the front derailleur rubs because the frame flexes so much. The first time I loaded up my Bombadil with front and rear panniers, I thought I would have to cancel my planned tour because it shimmied so badly. I don't know if there was a mistake in the tubing or what, but it definitely could stand to be *much* stiffer. I'm 6' 4 and I weigh 215 lbs, so I'm not an NFL linebacker or anything like that. I'm just a cyclist. happy It adds more unnecessary weight to and already perfect frame. The frame can be as super heavy duty as you want .. but the limiting factor on the road will always be the wheels. Are we to use 48 spoke wheels to compliment the stout-er frame? Lol:) It's just seems like they've chosen their idea of aesthetics over real world function to me. It's not the end of the world or anything ..but hey, it's their frames, and they can do anything they want. We either buy them or we don't. I'd like another Bombadil. one for the road, and one dedicated off road. I'll take the new paint scheme with the current frame. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
On May 18, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm not quite following your math (geometry?) on this. When they describe the horizontal extension as 65 mm, wouldn't that be the just 5 mm longer than a 6 cm Technomic stem? If you have two stems: an 80mm Dirt Drop (with 65mm extension) and a 6cm Technomic, it will be impossible for you to get the bars in the same spot--no matter what you do. Additionally, you will never get the bars to be within even .5 cm of each other. So the question becomes: what Technomic stem will enable you to get the bars in the same position as an 80mm Dirt Drop? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
On May 19, 12:36 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/18/10 9:57 PM, happyriding at happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On May 18, 8:38 pm, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: I'm not quite following your math (geometry?) on this. When they describe the horizontal extension as 65 mm, wouldn't that be the just 5 mm longer than a 6 cm Technomic stem? If you have two stems: an 80mm Dirt Drop (with 65mm extension) and a 6cm Technomic, it will be impossible for you to get the bars in the same spot--no matter what you do. Additionally, you will never get the bars to be within even .5 cm of each other. That's the statement I'm not following. Here's a picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/49416...@n00/4620513517/ The next picture shows the trigonometry/math. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
On May 19, 12:16 am, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: These must be guidelines, obviously. After measuring horizontal distance between my AHH and my Bombadil, the Bombadil is 1 - 1.5cm longer, although the height difference between the saddle and bars might be affecting this measurment, therefore the range. Where are you measuring from? The measurement you should be concerned with is the distance from the middle of the saddle where you sit to the bars. No plans for any serious touring, just S24Os and see if I can overcome my foot pain to be able to enjoy longer day rides. Hopefully as I lose weight, the foot pain will diminish... (is this realistic?) I don't see how--unless you are climbing lots of hills and you don't have a low enough gear, which means you are forced to exert tremendous force on the pedals in order to turn the cranks. I would try some custom orthotics in your cycling shoes. It would be nice if you could see a podiatrist who has some experience dealing with cyclists. The solution may be as simple as shimming your shoes a few degrees to either the inside or the outside. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Cycle Salt Lake Century
On May 17, 1:24 pm, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: Enjoyed a wonderful century ride on my new Sam on Saturday, complete with a mini-front rack, small Trunksack and fenders. Is that the green Sam, which you said you would post some good pictures of? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis - Bombadil comparison
On May 18, 3:53 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: Doug, I was actually interested in the comparison of a 60 Bombadil with a 61 Atlantis. I know how stout the Bombadil is, I own a 60. However, I'm getting more and more concerned with the standover height, which is very there for me as well as the fact that I'm unable to bring the Noodle bars any closer due to the top tube length. My calculations show that that an 80mm Dirt Drop stem, which according to Rivendell has a 65mm horizontal extension, is the equivalent of a Nitto Technomic stem with a length of 8.1cm. Therefore, if you use a 6cm Technomic stem, you can get the bars 2cm closer to you. The reason that is the case is because a Nitto Technomic stem has to be raised more in order to achieve the same height as a Dirt Drop stem, and the more you raise the Technomic stem, the more it will come back towards you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
On May 14, 1:21 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Paul Comp are THE best brakes made in the world these days. -my next ride is going with Racer-canti, What is the Paul Racer-canti? I don't see it on the Paul website. the Bleriot is set for Racer- bolts, and Chloe's new LHT is going to get the Neo/Touring combo soon- What issues are there with the straight Neo setup? The Paul website says: -- Also, the arms stick out a lot! For smaller frames, bikes with bags, and people with HUGE feet there can be some interference problems -- http://www.paulcomp.com/neoretro.html So if you have panniers on the front, somehow the brakes will interfere with the panniers? Or is that just the rear brake? Same with big feet? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
On May 13, 11:38 pm, Paul Price p...@paulcomp.com wrote: Hey- Thanks for that. We're pretty proud of our brakes. Hi Paul, Do you have any pictures on your website that compare 'silver anodized' to 'high polish'? Or, can you direct me to pictures of each type? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Davis Double 5-15-2010 - a set on Flickr
On May 16, 8:03 am, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: How I spent my Saturday--202 miles aboard my Riv Road. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/sets/72157623944822411/ Captions coming after I have some breakfast! --- My 27th Davis Double, and it turned out to be a fine day. --- Holy smokes. Is it held 3 times a year??!! Congratulations! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: paul's racer brakes vs cantis questions
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[RBW] Re: Bicycle Fixation - Stitching the River ride
photographic evidence:http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157623944953353/ Wow. Some format attire was on display as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bicycle Fixation - Stitching the River ride
On May 16, 12:22 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: photographic evidence:http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/sets/72157623944953353/ Wow. Some format attire was on display as well. Wow. Some formal attire was on display as well. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] should you loctite the bolts on your new Rivendell?
What is loctite? Is there more than one kind? Apparently I NEED it for my new dirt bike? So I just got a cheap chinese dirtbike and was told I need to LOCTITE everything. If you LOCTITE something does that make it impossible to undo if you need to? What kind of LOCKTITE would you recomend using on the bolts of a dirtbike? THANKS!!! Best Answer - Chosen by Voters -- Has anyone explained WHY you were told that about your new Chinese bike? You can look around and see only Rare mention of Loctiting Everything on the japanese Dirtbikes. It's Not because the Chinese Vibrate more than the japanese. Loctite does NOT keep Bolts/Nuts Tight. It merely keeps them from falling off when they come loose,,,and any parts they're holding coming adrift. Fastener Tension is what keeps things tight. Pretty Much the same as a Spring Tension Effect. When you Torque a Fastener to correct specs,,, the shank STRETCHES and holds the tension in a spring-like effect. Too Loose,,,and ya dont have enough tension to hold the load. Too TIGHT and you've exceeded the Yield Strength of the Fasteneryou've sprung the spring,,,Over Stretched it. Old Saying,,Over Torqued Bolt is a Half Broken Bolt There's all sorts of GRADES of fasteners. Higher Grades have both Higher Yield Strength AND typically a high modulus of elasticity---they are SPRINGIER. LOW Grade Bolts are Soft,Weak,Spongy,and with Low Yield strength. When you Torque them to Correct Specs,,,they Stretch too. But when You LOAD them,,,that exceeds their elasticity. The Result is that the fastener PERMANENTLY Stretches. A Bolt becomes actually LONGER. A Longer Bolt gives exact same effect as a LOOSE BOLT which is not tightened down all the way. Dynamic Loading/Movement,etc will eventually LENGTHEN,,,Not loosen,,the fastener to the point where it Becomes Loose. Then Vibrations will cause nuts to back off,fall off,,screws bolts to vibrate out of their hole and so on. Loctite can be BAD NEWS on Low Grade hardware. Exagerated example: Say you have a Bolt that has a 1 Clamped Length when installed and torqued. And it Stretches in service to 1 1/8.(Gross exageration) But OBVIOUSLY it's then Wobbling Loose,,right? It's no longer even bottomed out on the parts,,not even touching. So what does that Normally Require? RE-Tightening,obviously. (In Reality,,it NEEDS a Better Grade Bolt) So You have a Low Grade Bolt,,,loosened from Over Stretching and a SEMI-SEIZED Thread from Loctite. The LOCTITE itself introduces a False Torque during Re-Torque operation. It RAISES the Break-Out Torque just to MOVE it. That gets Added to the Total Torque. So you either : a)See 15ft Lbs on your Torque Wrench,,,while Clamping Force is only equivalent of 10FT lbs. Because 5ft lbs goes Just to TURN the Fastener or b)You Torque the Threads and Shank of the fastener sytem without applying ANY clamping force or c)You try to REMOVE the fastener which has been Over stretched beyond it's yield strength,,,and the Torque demand of the Loctite allows you the Break the Fastener becomes it comes loose. Now,,,did you see me say ANYWHERE that Locktite is BAD?? Or,,,DO NOT USE Locktite?? No,,it's a fine product and does an incredibly dependable job in it's intended appropriate applications. People bet their Lives on it,,,and the safety/security of Zillion Dollar Equipment. But you have to Focus on the Key WordsIntended Appropriate Applications There's LOTS more to the matter than knowing what each Color of Loctite Does. The explanation of THAT simple aspect is written right on the product's instructions. ..… The Best,,,and generally the ONLY advantage that Loctite can offer any unit assembled with Low Grade Hardware is to prevent a part from falling off. It will Retain a Loose Bolt or Nut. That SOUNDS like,,,Well thats what it's supposed to do And that's correct. But ,,THEN What? What Loctite DOES NOT DO is prevent parts from coming loose due to Fastener Stretch/Yield. Nothing about Loctite improves the metallurgy of the fasteners involved. It ONLY increases Torque Requirement to prevent vibrations from spinning a nut off,etc. Consider what happens NEXT,,,when you get tired of your exhaust flopping around,,,Handlebars slipping,,,footpegs wobbling around,,etc. And all your safely Loctited nuts/bolts are Still Present on the Now Loose hardware. Tighten them Up? Good Luck. It was half Broken when originally installed,, Yielded it's clamp length till it got LOOSE,,, Now You wanna Torque it AGAINbut with the addition of the Loctite Breakout Torque Requirement? I'll say it again,,,NOTHING Wrong with Using Locktite. At least it FEELS GOOD that you've done SOMETHING. But whoever told you to use Loctite SPEFICALLY BECAUSE You're bike is CHINESE does NOT Understand the phenomenon of those machines having Nuts Bolts which continually come loose and fall off. The Falling Off aint the Problem. That's only the
[RBW] Re: disco'd sizes and avail 'damance
On May 14, 12:00 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: What? An internet forum where you have to use the hyperbole filter on posts? Shocking. My post wasn't hyperbole. And I take offense at you calling it hyperbole because it's an under handed way of calling me a liar. You don't know the facts, so how can you make a judgement like that? I called Rivendell three times over the last 3-4 years in an attempt to order an Atlantis in a discontinued size. The first time was soon after they discontinued the large sizes. The second time was when Rivendell announced that they would be accepting orders for one last round of Toyo built frames. The other time was after Waterford started making the Atlantis frames. At no time was I told, We can do that, but may we suggest alternative frames? Instead, each time I asked about ordering one of the discontinued sizes, I was told No. Flat out, unequivocal, No. After I read that the Atlantis frames were being made by Waterford, I thought it might not matter what size Atlantis you ordered. I knew Waterford had the capability to build any size frame because they accept custom orders for large frames themselves. After being told, No by Rivendell once again when I inquired about ordering a discontinued size, I pressed the point. I asked why Waterford couldn't make an Atlantis in any of the discontinued sizes. In an irritated tone, the Rivendell salesperson repeated, We won't take an order for an Atlantis in that size. I could understand the irritation. A customer doesn't have the right to know why?. I asked the question, Rivendell declined to explain their reasons, end of story. You know how you get really excited when you make the decision to buy a new bike? Each time I called Rivendell about ordering an Atlantis, that excitement turned to disappointment in short order. It was not even suggested that I could order a custom and have Rivendell build me a stock Atlantis. The answer was simply No. My three attempts to buy an Atlantis in a discontinued size were all met with the same response: No. Is that adamant? It sure felt like adamance. If only I had known about the Horse's Mouth... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?
On May 12, 8:43 pm, Blindrobert roberto.cipri...@gmail.com wrote: Just curious if anyone has heard anything. I was surprised to call and find that the Atlantis was no longer available in my size - they did offer to have one made for me though. In what size? And for how much? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: A. Homer Hilsen with SS couplers 63cm
On May 12, 3:24 pm, Ron MH visio...@gmail.com wrote: That sounds like a super bike. I've been told that it can be difficult to get a large bike with SS couplers broken down small enough to fit in the appropriate travel case. Apparently, the smaller frames are a piece of cake; the larger frames not so much. What has been your experience? Here's a picture of a 68cm Atlantis with SS couplers that is broken down and in the case (with fork removed): http://www.sandsmachine.com/a_rex_r6.htm -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?
On May 13, 3:15 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I assumed this thread was going to be about all the new 4-size models (Hillborne, Hunqapillar, initial Bomba offering), not the 10-size Atlantis. They (RBW) still have the historical Atlantis geo-chart up on the 'Frame Specials' page: http://www.rivbike.com/images/static/upload/RBW-GeometryCharts.pdf That chart has all 10 Atlantis sizes described, including 64, 66, and 68. Give them $1000 (half-deposit) and wait a couple months and you should be able to get what you want. Nope. Rivendell adamantly refuses to build any of the sizes that have been discontinued. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: What do you think is behind the new limited sizes at RBW?
On May 13, 6:19 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On May 13, 3:15 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: I assumed this thread was going to be about all the new 4-size models (Hillborne, Hunqapillar, initial Bomba offering), not the 10-size Atlantis. They (RBW) still have the historical Atlantis geo-chart up on the 'Frame Specials' page: http://www.rivbike.com/images/static/upload/RBW-GeometryCharts.pdf That chart has all 10 Atlantis sizes described, including 64, 66, and 68. Give them $1000 (half-deposit) and wait a couple months and you should be able to get what you want. Nope. Rivendell adamantly refuses to build any of the sizes that have been discontinued. ...well, at least the size I asked about. Blindrobert, did Rivendell say they would build you a 64? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Sizing on a A Homer Hilsen
Hi tucker, The standover for the 63 Hilsen is listed as 88.8. Anyone can ride a frame with a standover equal to their pbh when road riding. Typically, Rivendell lists a standover measured with the biggest tires the bike can handle. The Hilsen geometry chart lists the biggest tire as 43mm. If you are going to run 35 mm tires, then the standover will be 88.0 cm. In addition, when you wear cycling shoes, you gain about 2 cm in height, so your pbh of 89 cm + 2 cm = 91 cm is 3 cm higher than the 88 cm standover of the Hilsen equipped with 35mmm tires. That is more than enough clearance for anyone. If you want to get the bars up near the saddle height, you should consider buying the biggest frame you can standover--then you won't have to use a high rise stem to get the bars up even with the saddle. Unfortunately, the Hilsen's have really long top tubes. Grant will argue that they don't. But I argue that they really do. So while the large size will allow you to use a lower stem height, you might have to use a short, stubby 6 cm stem length. The top tube plus stem length will determine the reach to the bars--although you do have to make some adjustments when comparing the Hilsen to your current bike due to the differences in seat tube angle, etc. On the other hand, the adjustments can cancel each other out, and in that case a direct comparison is possible. A 6cm stem may be right at your maximum reach, which means you would have no room to adjust shorter. The only thing you could do is raise the bars higher to get the handlebars to move closer to you. Ok, so maybe that will persuade you to get the smaller frame. The smaller frame will have a shorter top tube, which means you can use a little longer stem, say 8cm long, but now you will have to raise the stem higher to get the bars even with the top of the saddle. An 8cm stem will give you some leeway to adjust for shorter or longer reach. You can switch to a 6 cm stem for less reach or to a 10 cm stem for more reach. Of course you can always raise and lower an 8 cm stem to adjust your reach as well. If the top tube length on the larger Hilsen doesn't scare you, I would get the larger size. The standover is a non-issue. If you want to test out how the 88 cm standover will feel, put some books under the tires of your current bike (or a friend's bike) until the middle of the top tube is 88cm above the ground. Then put on some cycling shoes and straddle the top tube. Also keep in mind that just leaning the bike slightly to the side will provide even more clearance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My Bombadil frame is painted!
On May 10, 8:21 pm, Trikkemike trikkem...@gmail.com wrote: Keven from Riv was kind enough to send me some pics of my new Bombadil as it came back from the powdercoater. But you don't want to share the pictures? Moderator: 1 year ban, please. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: WTB: Original Rivendell Reader's CD - issues# 12 - 25
So were all the Rivendell Readers transferred to disc and sold at some point? Will my local library have them? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: For Sale: Quickbeam 56cm
On May 9, 12:55 pm, Ken ken.ha...@stribmail.com wrote: Hello All, I am new to this group. Honestly I joined because I am thinking of selling my quickbeam and I would like to see if there is interest. I'd like to sell it complete. Again I am testing the waters, Fun. I like make believe auctions. I bid $2,200! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] dynamo powered taillights
Hi, Can someone recommend a good dynamo powered taillight? I've been reading Peter White's website on lighting. I think a fender mounted taillight would be more visible when the rear is loaded with panniers. I imagine panniers would block the side view of the taillight. Is the fender mounted taillight (Toplight Line Plus) as bright as the rack mounted taillight (Seculight Plus)? Thanks, happy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: dynamo powered taillights
On May 10, 10:43 am, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: I think a fender mounted taillight would be more visible when the rear is loaded with panniers. I am not sure why this would be, as properly mounted panniers should not extend behind the rack where the light is located. Take a look at the Tubus Cosmo rack. The mount for a taillight is inset from the rear of the rack. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv frames work great with drop bars
On May 5, 3:53 pm, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote: It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells frames are not designed for drop bars. With the long top tubes you need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach. Not here. I've read that article several times in the past. UnSo! Terribly, terrifically unso. The Top Tube Ruse in RR--40/ 41? talked all about that, but I realize people come and go and land late and may skip over or miss, but basically, it's like this. Forgive lack of detail in these explanations: Shallow seat tubes neutralize long top tubes. We have shallow seat tubes. Shallow seat tube angles may somewhat reduce the effective top tube length--but they certainly don't neutralize the long top tubes found on the larger Rivendell bikes. For every one degree shallower(=smaller numerically) the seat tube angle is on a Rivendell frame compared to someone's current bike, the Rivendell frame will reduce the effective top tube length by approximately 1 cm. For instance, if someone has a road bike that has a 73 degree seat tube angle, a Rivendell frame with a 72 degree seat tube angle will reduce the effective top tube length by 1 cm. Higher bars super-'eutralize long top tubes. We're the Cosmos champs in that cat. As bars get higher, your arms become more horizontal, and that makes them longer (effectively, not literally). Well, intuitively that doesn't seem like it would make a very big difference over the short distances involved when raising a stem. And my calculations verify that the longer arm effect is trivial. For example, if I buy an A. Homer Hilsen and I raise my bars 4 cm higher than on my current bike in order to get the bars even with the top of the saddle, how will my reach to the bars be affected? There are two effects: a) Raising the stem height will bring the bars closer to me by some horizontal distance. By how much? With a 72.5 degree head tube on the Hilsen, if I raise the stem 4 cm the bars will get 1.20 cm closer to me. However if I buy a set of Nitto Noodle handlebars, they have 1 cm more reach than every road bar listed at Colorado Cyclist (including the bars on my road bike). So raising the stem height in conjunction with using Nitto Noodle bars on the Hilsen means the bars will only get .20 cm closer to me. In addition, if I just raise the bars 4 cm on my current road bike which has a 73.5 cm head tube angle, the bars will get 1.14 cm closer to me. The Hilsen can only do .06 cm better. And with the Nitto Noodle bars on the Hilsen adding 1 cm of reach, the bars on the Hilsen will actually be .94 cm further away from me than if I had just raised the bars on my road bike. That is not the direction I want to go in. b) Rivendell reader #41 points out that as the bars get higher your arms get longer (effectively). But by how much? If you wear a size 44 coat (longish arms), and you raise the bars 4cm, my calculations show that your arms will effectively get longer by .06 cm. If you have shorter arms, say size 22 coat (impossibly stubby arms), you can double that--your arms will effectively get longer by .13 cm. A 67 cm A. Homer Hilsen has a 65 cm effective top tube. My current road bike has a 62 cm horizontal top tube. I would like to try a shorter reach and a more upright position to see if that will cure the lower back and shoulder/neck fatigue I suffer on long rides. How am I supposed to neutralize the 65 cm top tube on the A. Homer Hilsen? I don't understand how any of the things you mentioned accomplishes that. Ideally, I would like to ride a frame with only a fistful of seatpost showing and the bars even with the top of the saddle. I think when only a fistful of seatpost is showing that indicates an expanded frame or a frame designed with an upright position in mind. According to my opinion, when a high rise stem is needed to get the bars even with the top of the saddle, that is an indication that the frame is sized just like every other road bike sold today. Thanks for reading, happy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Riv frames work great with drop bars
Whoops. It looks like the top of my post got bungled. Here is what it should look like: On May 5, 3:53 pm, Grant Petersen gr...@rivbike.com wrote: It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells frames are not designed for drop bars. With the long top tubes you need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach. UnSo! Terribly, terrifically unso. The Top Tube Ruse in RR--40/ 41? talked all about that, but I realize people come and go and land late and may skip over or miss, Not here. I've read that article several times in the past. Shallow seat tubes neutralize long top tubes. We have shallow seat tubes. Shallow seat tube angles may somewhat reduce the effective top tube length--but they certainly don't neutralize the long top tubes found on Rivendell bikes. For every one degree shallower(=smaller numerically) the seat tube angle is on a Rivendell frame compared to someone's current bike, the Rivendell frame will reduce the effective top tube length by approximately 1 cm. For instance, if someone has a road bike that has a 73 degree seat tube angle, a Rivendell frame with a 72 degree seat tube angle will reduce the effective top tube length by 1 cm. ... ... ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] headset stack height?
Hi, I was looking at this picture of a large custom Rivendell with a tall headset: http://tinyurl.com/23rzeqm Does the steerer go all the way up into the spacers? Can you add as many spacers as you want as long as you have enough steerer length? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: slowing down
How awful! On the bright side, she is still alive, and you can be thankful for that. Her next sport is going to be swimming. As soon as she is able to get around on crutches, get her into a pool. She can maintain her cardiovascular fitness by swimming laps. Then it's a matter of rehabbing that darn leg when the doc gives the go ahead. Cycling will come back fairly quickly. Running will take much longer. Good luck! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] gizmo advice: 1) chain keeper, 2) quick release cable stop
1) A recent thread mentioned chains falling off to the inside on an Atlantis and gouging the paint on the chain stay. I read about the NGear Jump Stop and wondered if anyone had tried it: http://www.ebikestop.com/n_gear_jump_stop_349mm_1_38-CH2057.php 2) The Rivendell website says that the Shimano canti brakes are difficult to unhook when trying to get your wheel out to fix a flat. Velo Orange sells something that might help in that regard. It's a metal bracket the holds the cable stop. You can slide the cable stop out of the bracket, which will then provide enough slack in the cable to unhook the canti brake. http://www.velo-orange.com/voqurerecast.html I'm not sure what type of seat binder bolt that fits on. Will that fit on Rivendell bikes? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: bombadil fork / racks?
**ok, so this Bomba i have is pretty lovely, but i'm at a loss as to how all the eyelets and screwintoable bits there are on the fork could best be used.** I think most people get a dynamo hub and mount Christmas tree lights on all those eyelets. :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: is this confusing or am i missing something? Waterford Hillbornes?
On May 5, 9:42 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I'm glad I got a 56 with the single tt. I can see any reason for two, neither looks nor durability. Odd. Maybe not on the 56, but as frames get larger they become more susceptible to shimmy. The 60 and above could be shimmy machines in the right conditions. And if you've ever experienced high speed shimmy, you will readily consider purchasing a triple top tube bike if it's offered. Hey, a Triple-pillar for 2011? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Contagion
Sold 10,000 IBM! Sold 15,000 GS! Sold 25,000 LVS! Whaaa?? Rivendell?? Never mind. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: An-Atomica saddles for Clyde
Hi, On May 4, 6:27 am, Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net wrote: I bought mine directly from S-A. I don't know how Tom Milton's passing has affected the operation of the company, but I'd give them a call soon. The owner of SA had a heart attack and died in the middle of a double century last weekend. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new AHH and it's maiden shakedown ride.
On May 4, 7:26 am, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: I'd just like to put a plug in for cable splitters. It can make pulling the bars/levers and trying something different much easier and pleasant. Thanks. Where do you get them? Are they easy to install? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new AHH and it's maiden shakedown ride.
Ahh. Beautiful pictures. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: An-Atomica saddles for Clyde
That's a dead link. Has anyone used those saddles before? Opinions? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new AHH and it's maiden shakedown ride.
On May 4, 12:16 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: Yep, that's the one I have. The flare at the top of the quill is sitting right on the top nut of the headset. You can sorta kinda see it in this photo: http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027...@n00/4576796902/sizes/l/in/set-7... The position is not bad by any means, and I may just leave it! Why don't you want to use a regular stem? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Super Deals in Davis, CA
On May 4, 2:19 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: The Bike Barn on the UC Davis campus is holding their annual sale. Among the deals: -- Panaracer Pasela Tourguard tires (700x32) for $7. (Matching tubes for $1) -- Showers Pass jackets (Touring and Double Century models) for half price (Double Century for $60, regularly $120). Will they take orders over the phone and ship? What's the shop's name? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Super Deals in Davis, CA
On May 4, 2:38 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: On May 4, 2:19 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: The Bike Barn on the UC Davis campus is holding their annual sale. Among the deals: -- Panaracer Pasela Tourguard tires (700x32) for $7. (Matching tubes for $1) -- Showers Pass jackets (Touring and Double Century models) for half price (Double Century for $60, regularly $120). Never mind. I called them. No XL's. Darn. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed
On May 4, 12:47 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Mike I'm a terrible double-replyer, so I'm sorry about that. I just called Keven and he said that the 54 and 58 prototypes were built correctly to the numbers that are currently on the Riv-site. The finals will be longer, so the numbers are changing. The Hunqa numbers claim that the 54 has a 58.4cm effective top tube length, and the final will be really close to 60cm. The 58 claims to have a 60cm effective top tube length and the final will be a 62 or so. On May 4, 12:47 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Mike I'm a terrible double-replyer, so I'm sorry about that. I just called Keven and he said that the 54 and 58 prototypes were built correctly to the numbers that are currently on the Riv-site. The finals will be longer, so the numbers are changing. The Hunqa numbers claim that the 54 has a 58.4cm effective top tube length, and the final will be really close to 60cm. The 58 claims to have a 60cm effective top tube length and the final will be a 62 or so. Ugh. What is it with Rivendell's long top tubes? I thought the whole idea was to get people to ride bigger frames? On the bigger frames, the top tubes are so long it forces people to buy a smaller frame with a shorter, better fitting top tube and then jack up the stem to get the bars up there. For instance, look at the 67 AHH. The effective seat tube is about 66.3 center to center and the effective top tube is 65. My preference for that frame would be a 61 cm top tube so that I could employ a proportionally appropriate stem of 12 or 13 cm. It seems to me that because of the long top tubes most of Rivendells frames are not designed for drop bars. With the long top tubes you need bars that come back towards you to provide a comfortable reach. I've read the article on how a shallower seat angle effectively shortens the top tube--but that is only 1 cm per degree. So if you currently ride a bike with a 73 seat tube angle, the Hilsen's 72 seat tube angle will allow you to fit a top tube that is 1 cm longer. But on the other end, a Nitto Noodle handlebar has 9.5 cm of reach which is 1 cm longer than most road bars sold today. The net result is that a shallower seat tube angle effectively reduces the top tube length by 1cm, but the Noodle handlebar is 1 cm longer, so that is a scratch. It would be nice if Rivendell made one model where the top tubes were not so long in the large sizes. Taller riders could then choose bigger frames with less stem sticking out of the frame and use a 12 or 13 cm stem with Nitto Noodle's to get the proper reach to the bars. The geometry of the original Hunqapillar seemed to be moving a bit in that direction. On the other hand, some days I hold up my hand and spread my thumb and forefinger apart 4 centimeters, and I look at how small a distance that is, and I wonder if it is even worth thinking about. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Diagonapillar blueprints revealed
On May 4, 10:40 am, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: on 5/4/10 6:23 AM, Rene Sterental at orthie...@gmail.com wrote: That's the concept that I liked; the long diagonal. Breezers (original like that one) had a long diagonal (i.e. headtube to rear dropout), but they were separate parrallel tubes. A big issue with the early mtb's was lateral flex - they were lng wheelbase bicycles with slack geometry and wide Albatross style bars. The method of use was downhill at high speeds with a ton of side drift. You were heavily countersteering, too and the bikes felt like they had a hinge in the middle, sometimes. In that picture, it looks like the diagonal may not be attached to the down tube? What was the thinking behind that? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rich's Wheel Building Seminar, May 15 @ 11AM.
How fun! I wish I could be there. :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: My new AHH and it's maiden shakedown ride.
On May 3, 7:29 pm, jinxed hbcl...@yahoo.com wrote: Lots of toiling on my part. Lots of help, guidance, and reassurance on RBW's part. My 59cm A.H.H. http://www.flickr.com/photos/42027...@n00/sets/72157623986998644/ What's on the middle of the top tube? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Saluki History + Provenance
Check out some of your brethren here: http://fiveprime.org/hivemind/Tags/rivendell,saluki -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: An-Atomica saddles for Clyde
Hi Bruce, On May 4, 2:38 pm, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I have 3 of them and love them. One is sans slot, 2 are slotted. The unslotted is most comfy to me, but everyone else I know who rides them prefers the slot. If it's not too much to ask, could you measure the length and the width (at the widest part)? I can't find that information anywhere. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Protorio/esteban photos
They are crazy beautiful: http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/qq255/protorio/4201937687_4047b61466_b.jpg This thread is filled with them: http://sdbikecommuter.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=7page=1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Protorio/esteban photos
Ok! Find out what he takes those with! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
Thanks Michael_S! I'd also be interested in hearing about any flats you get. I'd like to know how tough the Racers are. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: if you own a 63cm Roadeo
Ok. Never mind. The pink would have been nice to see. :( -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Thanks for the sandals
On May 1, 4:21 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: Was the donor on this list? Yes. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: First ride
On May 1, 5:27 pm, Anne Paulson anne.paul...@gmail.com wrote: Today I picked up my little beauty, the green Roadeo my husband got me for my birthday. Naturally I didn't want to coop up the new arrival (or myself) in a car right away, so first we took a little jaunt up to the top of Mount Diablo, its ancestral homeland. What a perfect day! Not too hot, and plenty of orange poppies, purple lupine and yellow mustard remain from a beautiful flower year. Wow! Sounds beautiful. What a christening! The bike is splendid. Very, very comfortable; somehow, as with all Rivendells, the body position is exactly right. Gorgeous, with tan tape contrasting with the bright dark green paint. (I ordered a black Barley for it from Peter Jon White, but now I think a tan bag, or the green Barley, would look better. Oh well.) Wants to descend faster than I want to descend. Feels perfect when I'm out of the saddle. Nice. My friends that I ride with will be able to admire it from the rear. Ha! I still have to do some tweaking. Riv put on Jack Browns, which are fine tires but this bike, which is pretty much entirely for climbing on pavement, will get narrower tires to save weight, and the Jack Browns will go on some lesser bike. I rode today with toeclips because I didn't want to get used to clip-in pedals on a new bike on a longish ride, but Speedplay Frogs will go on it tonight or tomorrow. And the elderly saddlebag currently on it will be replaced by a spanking new, appropriately small Barley. But already it's great. Pictures, please! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 62 Saluki in Seattle?
On Apr 29, 5:45 pm, Rob Harrison robha...@gmail.com wrote: Howdy all, Anyone with a 62cm Saluki in Seattle they would consider letting me try? It occurs to me I ought to see if I can throw a leg over one before taking the leap. :) Thanks! Rob in Seattle Have you been down in your basement recently? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
Hi, Thanks for responding. I was thinking that as the chainstays got wider, the cassette moved outboard more, but that isn't true is it? The cassette must be in the same place no matter how wide the chainstays are? So that meas every crank has an ideal distance from the BB shell that perfectly lines up its chain rings with the cassette? So for bikes with wide chain stays, you need a crank where the crank arms are further away from the rings so that the crank arms clear the chainstays, but the rings still line up with the cassette? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: I registered for the Grizzly Peak Century today
Got any pictures of that coffee colored AHH? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] if you own a 63cm Roadeo
I would like to see a picture of a 63cm Roadeo with the center-of-the- bottom-bracket to the top-of-the-seat measurement set at 83cm and the bars set level with the top of the seat. Does anyone have a set up like that and would you mind posting a picture? Thanks, happy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Grant wants me to go on a bike ride with him!
I love that dialog about the boyscouts awarding merit badges for playing video games. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: link to orange saluki(?) + tubus nova front rack ?
I found it. ablejack sent the image to me in an email. benjamin, You should tell ablejack to post the picture he sent on flicker along with the others. The reason I really like the picture he sent me is that you can see every component on the bike--and it is a beautiful bike! Thanks for everyone's help, happy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
On Apr 22, 11:25 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: Another thing to keep in mind if you have your eye on that crank. Pay very close attention to how the Q-factor of the crankset goes with the chainstay width of the frame you are setting up. How is Q a property of the crank? Wouldn't the bottom bracket that is necessary to allow the crank to clear the chain stays determine the Q? Or do some cranks only fit on certain narrower bottom brackets? Also, has anyone had a problem adjusting to the huge Q of a Rivendell bike? That is something I hadn't really considered. I don't know what bike you are building, but I will report that my 155mm Q-factor Ritchey (113mm spindle) barely fit on a Bombadil. There is no hope that a 130-something crankset would fit without a massively long spindle, which would change it into a 155mm Q-factor crankset and would foul up your chainline and front shifting. That 46/30 Gran Cru would be sweet on an old school Rando/Brevet bike (basically a road bike). No chance would that crankset work on a Bomba/Hunqa. Even a Hillborne/Hilsen would be questionable. Roadeo should work. Ok, thanks. Good to know. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: link to orange saluki(?) + tubus nova front rack ?
That's the one! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] link to orange saluki(?) + tubus nova front rack ?
Hi, Recently, someone posted a link to a picture of a beautiful orange Saluki(I think) with a Berthoud handle bar bag and a Tubus Nova front rack. I've been trying to find that link again with no success. Does anyone have the link? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: link to orange saluki(?) + tubus nova front rack ?
That may be it. I don't see the same picture I was referring to though. The picture I saw was shot by someone facing the front of the bike with the camera low to the ground and looking up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: link to orange saluki(?) + tubus nova front rack ?
On Apr 28, 2:24 pm, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: This is obviously it: http://image.lowridermagazine.com/f/10427082+w750+st0/lrmp_0806_02_z+... Grant's personal ride, and I really like it too. Understated, subtle, ever-ready for errands cyclo-camping on Diablo. lol. Sorry, but the mystery link is driving me crazy. I went back and read every thread for the past couple of days, and I tried going through my browser's history one web page at a time, but I can't find the link to that picture. I do think it is the same bike benjamin linked to. It doesn't matter. It's just frustrating. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: link to orange saluki(?) + tubus nova front rack ?
Hi, Thanks for trying. On Apr 28, 4:19 pm, Marty mgie...@mac.com wrote: Maybe this one? http://tinyurl.com/2ctjvzh That's the same set of pictures that benjamin gave me the link for. The picture I'm looking for was shot facing the front of the bike and the camera was low to the ground. The bike was wearing a Berthoud handle bar bag and a Tubus Nova front rack with no panniers. And for what I wanted to see, the images you guys provided are good enough. Like I said, I just got frustrated that I couldn't find the same picture that I saw earlier. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!
Hi, On Apr 26, 8:47 am, Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com wrote: I like it okay, but that Brandywine Red is what I'm going for when my sage green one needs a re-do. http://cyclofiend.com/cc/2007/cc307-iankersey0507.html What rear derailleur is that? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Atlantis does Texas Hill Country
Beautiful pictures. Thanks. On Apr 27, 10:58 am, jose jose.cor...@gmail.com wrote: Just did the first proper ride on the new Atlantis this weekend in the Texas Hill Country, near Pedernales Falls. Here are a few shots: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/sets/72157623939501636/ I continue to be impressed with these big honkin Schwalbe Extremes. They sure take some of the bump out of these trails, and roll fast enough on the road. Pretty light for what they are. This longhorn wasn't too keen on the leather saddle though: http://www.flickr.com/photos/southgatephotos/4556383144/in/set-721576... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: grepsalot's Tour
Thanks, Mike! I spent the last few days reading her trip report. What a grand adventure! Here are some of my favorite quotes: -- I met one rollerblader this morning on a bike path in Portland, ME who yelled to me, Did you leave anything at home? -- Before we go any further, I should tell you, dear reader, about how I have no sense of direction. None. Besides that, I routinely miss signs. This means that you can count on lots of extraneous adventures; I can pretty much guarantee getting lost at least once every day. -- Fewer hills, but some of them were mighty big. I think I walked up 3 of them. But as Moni Neville said once on the phred list, I never met a hill I couldn't walk. -- I was lucky to find this campground as there were no other accommodations anywhere near. It's actually a golf course. Look at the net right behind the table in the picture. The first tee is right behind me. I am hoping I don't get brained by a ball. -- I should have titled this journal, Creeping across America in small increments. But I'm training on the road. At least that's my excuse for now. -- There was some hairy riding this morning. Fast rush-hour traffic on 2- lane roads with no shoulders, curves and hills. On some of the steeper hills there was no room to wobble so I walked in the ditch with the bike on the edge of the often broken white line area. I was glad to get out of that area. -- Today was a challenge. It was pouring cold rain as I headed down the road. About 5 miles into the ride a highway sign said I was riding East, and as we know, I'm supposed to be headed West. -- But what a struggle! The terrain was easy - up and down small hills - but my legs simply would not work today. I had to walk even the smallest inclines and even pedalling down the other side was difficult. Walking was hard, too. What on earth was happening? Food, Gatorade, GU and electrolytes did not fix it. Finally, around the 10 mile mark my legs kicked in a bit, but not at their usual strength. It wasn't until I got into a hotel room that it dawned on me that the problem was probably that I'd been riding for 7 days and needed a rest day. So I won't be riding tomorrow. -- You will notice that I only did 13 miles today, but even that was an accomplishment. Over the winter I had read CrazyGuy journals about the killer hills in the stretch from Oxford through Bigelow Hollow State Park and beyond, but truly, I had no idea. The hills were steep and they were long and they were relentless and of course I walked them. Walk 10 steps, rest, try to prevent the bike from rolling back down, repeat. There were false tops to some of the hills, where just as I thought I'd got there, the road would curve and there was another top, and later, maybe another. When I actually got to the top there would be a 1 to 2 mile descent, but I was so shakey I'd have to rest before I felt competent to hurl myself down the hill. -- I had to quit at 24 miles because my left cleat was not engaging with the pedal and I had some foot slips and near spills because of it. Fortunately, I had an extra set of Speedplay Frog cleats. I think that walking up those hills finally killed that cleat, although they were 6 years old and quite worn down. -- It was another exhausting day of hiking up long steep hills (1421 feet total ascent) that I couldn't ride and rocketing down the other side. -- I went into the police station at Sheffield to ask a question about the map. The officer I spoke with used to be a racing cyclist but can't ride now because he has knee problems. But here's the most amazing thing I learned today. He will be having a procedure where they grind up rooster combs, mix it with something, and inject it into the knee. What?! This seemed so far out that I had to Google it, but turns out it's an actual procedure. How did someone come to think this up? Let's see - my patient's got bad knees and I've got this rooster out there doing not much of anything, so... -- Not far from Sand Hill Park and still in the wind farm area is the Erie Shores Wind Farm Interpretive Centre. I stopped to see what I could learn. The wind turbine pictured above is just across the road and you can go over there and pet it if you want. -- (At one town, Judy phoned up a classmate that she hadn't seen in 53 years and was able to locate here. They spent the whole day chatting and Judy spent the night at her house.) -- As soon as I arrived in Big Sandy I went into the bar, which was the only establishment in town that was open. A highschool friend named Grace once lived here and I had hoped to connect with her. Everyone in the bar of a certain age knew her, but sadly she died 2 or 3 years ago. -- As you can see in the picture, the shoulder is lovely as you start out from Fort Benton, but it disappears completely 16 miles from Great Falls. Moreover, you can't ride on the white line because there are clumps of chipseal on it. So the only place to ride on this narrow, heavily
[RBW] Re: Got my Saluki!
Yahooo! A new bike! I love the fenders and basket. Well done! Ah hah! I spy dura-ace bar end shifters instead of silvers...and SRAM brake levers. Can you explain? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: silvers v. dura-ace
On Apr 25, 8:22 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: The Silvers shift better than any friction shifter, bar end, trigger or down tube, that I have ever used, including Retrofriction downtubers. My only complaint with the long levers is that they end up exactly at the level of my top-tube-mounted pump... And why is that bad? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] nitto big rack question
Hi, It seems to me that the horse shoe shaped portion that juts upward on the seat stay end of the rack would just get in the way when trying to strap things onto the rack. For instance, my Therm-a-Rest mattress is 25 inches wide. If I strapped it onto the rack, it would protrude 10 inches off the back. It seems to me that if the upward jutting horseshoe portion wasn't there, I could slide the mattress all the way up against the seat stays so that less of the mattress protruded off the end of the rack. Why was the rack designed that way? Has anyone toured with the Nitto Big Rack? What did you think of it? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: nitto big rack question
On Apr 26, 9:13 am, Darin G. dbg...@mac.com wrote: I have a big rack on my Sam which supports my commuting panniers nicely. I haven't toured with it yet, but it would easily fit one of the newer therma-rest pads. The NeoAir for example is 4 X 9 packed and could go in a pannier or sit on top. 4 inches x 9 inches? How wide and long is it when it is inflated? A down sleeping bag in a waterproof stuff sack would sit up their easily as well. I have already moved in this direction for backpacking gear to save weight and space as a down sleeping bag packs down to about the size of a loaf of bread In my opinion, down is only appropriate for snowy climates. If you get down wet, it won't work anymore. The first time you ever try to wash and then dry a down sleeping bag or jacket, you will realize the world of hurt you will be in if you get one wet. They take longer than a week to dry out. If the horseshoe continues to perplex look at a Bruce Gordon rack. No horseshoe there. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
On Apr 26, 8:41 am, Bridgestone alancr...@mac.com wrote: I've always been a fly-fisherman. Last summer, I took a week-long class in the Catskills and built my own bamboo fly rod. I'm hooked now (hell yes, pun intended!) Nice. They are beautiful, aren't they? Making one yourself and then fishing it with flies you tied yourself must be the ultimate fly fishing experience. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hobbies that compliment your Rivendell lifestyle
By the way, did you ever see the pictures of the Vanilla fishing bike? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: today's ride
On Apr 24, 8:50 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: After the 300k two weeks ago I had a problem with my Berthoud fender on my Hilsen and so took them off until I could find replacement hardware. I ended up mounting some Schwalbe Marathon 700x40 tires on the Hilsen since it was fender free and enjoyed some rambles in Forest Park and Powell Butte. I've really enjoyed riding the Hilsen with these huge tires, Do you know how wide those Marathons actually measure? Also, what tires do you normally ride, and can you compare the performance of the Marathons v. your regular tires? Grip King pedals and front and rear bags. It feels like the proper country bike it was meant to be. I figured for today I'd just do this big ride in a Riv inspired kit (MUSA knicers, LS wool undershirt, wool jersey) and pedal free (Grip Kings, Vans). No chaffing? It was a great ride. There were some showers and it was a little chilly out in George but it felt nice to be riding in something other than my lycranaut kit. So the wool kept you warm even during the showers? No windbreaker or rain jacket? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] silvers v. dura-ace
Does anyone prefer dura-ace bar end shifters over silvers? The silvers look like spears ready to impale a knee cap. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pletscher Rear Rack
It doesn't sound like that rack is very versatile: -- If you have long forks (longer than regular road forks, about like the Hilsen or Hillborn), the struts won't reach, so you have to clamp them on, as shown in one of the photos. -- Hence, the low price. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tom Milton of Selle Anatomica
So sad. Thanks for the news. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Tom Milton of Selle Anatomica
Here's a detailed account of the events: http://bikeridestories.blogspot.com/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Daughter's New Whip
So awesome. A new bike! What a thrill! Outlier: I double wrap my bars with some cushioned F'zik tape and wear gloves. Otherwise I get numb hands. Has anyone use leather bar wrap? How does it fare in the rain? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
On Apr 22, 2:19 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: Not really. I move my hands around a lot to avoid numbness, but that's about it. I felt great at the end of the 400. I would be in heaven if I could complete a century without excruciating shoulder/neck and lower back fatigue. Any advice? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bike of the Week Auction #2 - SOLD
What will be the differences between a SimpleOne and a Quickbeam? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
On Apr 23, 6:08 am, Shaun Meehan meehan.sh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:00 PM, Earl Grey earlg...@gmail.com wrote: Shaun, what do you find to be the sweet spot for the 38 Racers, and what's your combined bike/rider/luggage load? Gernot I'm not really sure how much my bike weighs but it's a 68cm Atlantis. I typically don't carry a whole lot of stuff with me. I have a Nitto Top Rack with a Big Loafer, in which I carry tools, tube, pump, rain shell, etc. I weigh about 230 pounds these days. So I would say that the total weight is probably in the neighborhood of 275 pounds. I always default to the max recommended pressure when I inflate my tires on account of my size; so initially I had the Racers inflated to 85 PSI. They rode fine at 85 but I noticed that after they lost some air, they actually rode quite a bit better. The sweet spot for me seems to be around 75 PSI. Have you had any flats with the Racers? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
Incredible. Can you describe how the ride goes? Do you stop every 2 hours to stretch? What type of physical discomfort do you endure-- other than cardiovascular suffering? Neck? Shoulders? Hands? Feet? Butt? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
On Apr 22, 7:45 am, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Eric, great time on the 400k. Good job! The green Rivendell in the photos, is that yours? Looks like you rode with a Camel Back. Man, I don't think I could take 17hrs of that weird sloshing sound but then again, I bet you had no issues with hydration. Oh, yeah. I forgot about the Camel Back. After 17 hours, do the straps feel like they are cutting into your skin? And what is the Randonneur's creed as far as helping another rider with a flat? It looks like you guys made poor Ealine throw her bike down in the gravel while she fixed her flat: http://www.flickr.com/photos/35176...@n03/4531814840/in/set-72157623758002717/ You guys have nice bikes, can't you hold a fellow randonneur's bike so it doesn't get damaged while they work on the wheel? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Pasela 35/37 or Marathon Racer 38?
In case anyone finds it useful, I thought I'd add the following information about the Racers from Peter White's page on Schwalbe tires: --- Like the Big Apple, the Marathon Racer has very shallow grooves in the tread for low rolling resistance. It's effectively a slick, and as such will have maximum grip with low rolling resistance on all surfaces except wet dirt. Grooved tread on pavement does nothing to improve traction in the rain, unlike on a automobile tire with a rectangular contact patch. The oval contact patch of a bicycle tire forces water to the sides of the tire, eliminating hydroplaning. Water doesn't build up in front of the tire. Bicycle tire manufacturers put tiny treads on their high performance tires only to reassure consumers who may not understand the way bicycle tires function in the rain. --- http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/schwalbe.asp -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: DBC 400K 4-17-10 - a set on Flickr
So you don't even get shoulder/neck aches after 17 hours riding? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Heavy rider wheel issues
Thanks for the Veloctiy Dyad comments. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: unclaimed custom?
On Apr 22, 1:47 pm, Philip Williamson philip.william...@gmail.com wrote: Joe Bell could PAINT a gusset under there. I'm sure he could, and it would probably look great. However, if you download Rivendell Reader #41, there is an article in there about the Bombadil, and the article discusses the extended lug on the underside of the down tube. The article says the lug extension serves to reinforce an area that is susceptible to a lot of stress. So saying that the missing lug work is a cosmetic oversight seems to contradict that article. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] grepsalot's Tour
Has anyone looked at the pictures from her Tour aboard her Atlantis? I love this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/13860...@n02/3854802814/ There's a picture of a wheel dipping in Maine, and then the pictures seem to abruptly end in Montana. I hope she got to where she wanted to go. Note the small thumbnail image next to the heading grepsalot's photostream--really poignant. Very inspiring. If you are out there grepsalot, thank you. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Guess I don't get down to the basement much
On Apr 21, 1:13 am, Me clotht...@gmail.com wrote: Ha, completely forgot I have a brand new, totally un-built Rivendell 'Bleriot' frameset with all the parts sitting in a box. Some nice parts too: lugged stem, Noodles, Paul 'Racer' brakes, TA rings and a beautiful daVinci crankset... all sitting in there, all new and unopened. Box next to it, a brand new wheelset of Velocity 650B 'Synergy' rims, laced to a SON hub for the front and for the rear, a Chris King cassette hub. Whaaa?! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: RBW Saddle Height question
On Apr 21, 12:14 am, RM b...@san.rr.com wrote: On Apr 20, 2010, at 10:19 PM, happyriding wrote: Hi, Thanks for the response. On Apr 20, 10:09 am, RM b...@san.rr.com wrote: Besides establishing a better position on the bike for increasing my power output ability, I also came away no longer suffering from shoulder blade area pain on long rides. I do not know if he is still personally doing bike fits, but he is still listed on staff at the Boulder Center for Sports Medicine. Any one specific thing you can attribute to solving your shoulder aches? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Another tire thread: does Riv sell 42/40 Marathon Supremes?
Hi, Can someone educate me on the tire sizes available for Marathon Supremes? Or, can someone recommend another touring tire that is roughly a true 38mm? Does suppleness matter when touring? Or is the whole rig just a big laborious steam roller? Thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
Hi, On Apr 21, 12:43 am, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: The shimano bar end shifters can switch between friction and indexing in the rear shifter; the front shifter is only friction. Ah hah. Thanks. I have another question. Is a 40x30 double a reasonable alternative to a 46x36x26 triple? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Another tire thread: does Riv sell 42/40 Marathon Supremes?
Are Jack Brown Blues a viable alternative? Or are they too narrow? The description recommends them for tandems. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Bullmoose on a Hillborne
On Apr 21, 5:14 am, Johnny Alien johnnyal...@verizon.net wrote: Hmmm...it seems like it is not a crazy idea at all then. I now have options! Does anyone know if the Hunqapillar colors on the site are the final colors? The last I read, they were thinking of offering two options: red panel/ headtube and orange panel/headtube. As for the strength of the Sam Hillborne, here is what Rivendell Reader #41 (which is free to download) said when introducing the Sam Hillborne: --- The Sam may be even more versatile than the AHH, because the tubing is slightly thicker (same gauge as the Atlantis), so it more suited to loaded touring. With AHH clearance, Atlantis tubing gauges, and a fork that splits the diff, you can think of it as halfway between the Atlantis and A. Homer Hilsen. -- I'm not sure what that fork comment is referring to (clearance? tubing?). I've read that the Atlantis tubing is butted .9/.6/.9. And the same Riv Reader that introduces the Hillborne has an article about the Bombadil. The article on the Bombadil says the tubing is .1 thicker than the Atlantis, so that would make the tubes on the Bombadil 1.0 millimeter thick. The article also says the Bomadil's down tube and double top tubes are straight gauge (no butting). The Hunqapillar is described as having Bombadil stout tubing in the main tubes, which presumably means the top and down tubes (and that might also be the case for the down tube as well). In any case, the Hunqapillar has 1.0 mm tubing, and the Sam Hillborne and Atlantis have .9 mm tubing. The Atlantis is recommended for fully loaded touring. Therefore, it seems like the Sam Hillborne is a pretty stout bike. Also, are you aware that the double top tube design of the Hunqapillar has morphed into something different than depicted on the website? The second top tube is most likely going to angle down and join the seat tube in the middle of the seat tube. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
On Apr 21, 5:48 am, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, On Apr 21, 12:43 am, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote: The shimano bar end shifters can switch between friction and indexing in the rear shifter; the front shifter is only friction. Ah hah. Thanks. I have another question. Is a 40x30 double a reasonable alternative to a 46x36x26 triple? Whoops. Make that a 46x30 double. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
Good point about constantly needing the in between gears. The problem is I don't know where that is for a touring bike. I only have a road bike, which is set up with a 53x39 and 13-29, which works well for me in all types of terrain. I was thinking about the possibility of coupling the pending Velo Orange Gran Cru crank ($125), which is a 46x30 double, with a Rivendell/Shimano 12-36 9 speed cassette. That would result in a lower top end than a 53x13 (110.1 v. 103.5). Any comments on whether that is practical? Are doubles just not used for touring bikes? Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
On Apr 21, 5:11 pm, happyriding happyrid...@yahoo.com wrote: Good point about constantly needing the in between gears. The problem is I don't know where that is for a touring bike. I only have a road bike, which is set up with a 53x39 and 13-29, which works well for me in all types of terrain. I was thinking about the possibility of coupling the pending Velo Orange Gran Cru crank ($125), which is a 46x30 double I forgot to mention, the Gran Cru has matching ramps and pins. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: 'nother free-bee: SPuD Sandals
On Apr 21, 9:57 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: I'll keep checking around in the basement and see what I can find! I think I see a Hunqapillar hiding behind the water heater! I heard it moaning, They want to chop my arm off and reattach somewhere else! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
On Apr 21, 9:14 pm, amoll68 amol...@comcast.net wrote: WRT the 46-30 and the 12-36 rear: it might work okay, might even work well. I have a feeling the trick may be finding the right front derailleur, and I'm thinking something from the 70's or 80's with a wide cage. I first tried a modern FSA compact for my Hilsen setup, and never could get it dialed in right (rubbing problems, and some shifting problems.) The old Simplex SLJ doesn't appear to have the correct radius for the 46T ring, but it works great! Trial and error can be fun - especially when you create that winning combo, but it can also be frustrating and expensive. Good luck! Alex Hi Alex, So why does a 9 speed, 12-36 cassette need a wider front derailleur cage than, say, a 10 speed 13-29? I would think the overall width of the cassette would be pretty similar, and therefore you would get the same chain angles. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: cranks: ramps and pins v. none
On Apr 21, 5:41 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: ...and the 46/30 is predicted to be $175, not $125. Still a bargain Whoops. That's the page I was looking at. Somehow I read $125 (..and I did that several times!). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
