Re: [RBW] Cantilevers or Direct Mount-Centerpulls

[vernon brooks]

I just had some similar modifications done on my wife’s Rambouillet that
I’ll be building for her later this year. All of the bikes that I’ve owned
in my adult life have been cantilever so it may be that I’m simply a
creature of habit. I will say it is nice not having to work around the
front brake if you’re intending to use a rack that mounts to the center
hole on fork crown. In the end it all comes down to preference and
intention. A brake is a brake and if you play around with it enough you’ll
likely get the same result.

On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 9:57 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Steven: I'm curious about your reasons. I'm not contradicting, just asking
> because I'd like to know any secrets for setting up cantilevers properly.
> In fact, among the best brakes all around that I ever used -- mixing power
> and modulation and "feel" -- were IRD long-arms set up with salmons on my
> 2010 Sam Hill, but then the Riv staff installed and adjusted those. Drop
> bar levers. Me, I've never been able to get more than "acceptable" braking
> with cantis of any sort and drop bar levers.
>
> I had my 2020 Matthews built for cantilevers in order to clear 42 mm tires
> with fenders, but I sometimes wonder if I would not have done better to
> have had pivots added for centerpulls which, IME, are much easier to set up
> and which (again, IME), stop more "powerfully."
>
> At first I used Tektro CR 720s; I got rid of the violent squeal and
> shudder by radical pad toe-in, and after that they were "acceptable." I
> replaced those with Pauls which allowed a more normal toe-in without squeal
> or shudder and which were perhaps a wee bit stronger. Most recently I
> swapped out the steel Shimano headset mount housing stop in the front for a
> much more expensive RH one, and that did improve front braking "strength."
> Now the brakes are "quite adequate" but not as good as good single pivots
> or the backing-plate centerpulls I've used -- Mafacs, Weinmanns, Tourneys,
> Dura Ace.* And among the worst brakes I ever had were the Mafac cantilevers
> (even tried the longer-arm tandem model on the front) on an old Herse --
> despite salmon pads and a lot of time fiddling with cable angles.
>
> So, please explain the reason for your preference, and let us know of any
> secrets for setting up cantilvers for optimum performance. Perhaps you have
> in mind cantilevers with "flat bar" levers?
>
> Again: Not arguing! Seeking knowledge!
>
> Thanks.
>
> * I was told -- Olof Stroh, were did you go? -- that Shimano made Dura Ace
> centerpulls for about 6 months in 1976, and I owned a pair. Someone had
> hand polished them to a Rene Herse-like gleam, but they didn't work any
> better than the Tourneys; both worked "well" but not "exceptionally well."
>
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 1:08 PM Steven Sweedler 
> wrote:
>
>> My vote is for cantilevers
>>
>> Steven Sweedler
>> Plymouth, New Hampshire
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 8:05 PM Kyle Cotchett 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>
>>> Just swooped up an old bleriot that I am going to be bringing to a local
>>> frame builder to do some mods to for racks and mounted brakes. I am looking
>>> to set this one up as a touring bike and torn between having cantilever or
>>> centerpull brake posts installed. Any thoughts from folks who have ridden
>>> both?
>>>
>>> Kyle
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[vernon brooks]

Good call I think I’ll hold off for a little until I start building and
have some more content to share with the group.

Enjoy the new ride Bill!

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 8:12 PM Bill Lindsay  wrote:

> Start another thread!  Participants on this group love seeing photos of
> other people's bikes.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 10:58:41 AM UTC-8 plumber...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Lovely custom and selection can’t wait to see the finished project! I too
>> recently picked up my wife’s frame that was painted by Rick at D Had to
>> do my best not to chime in with photos and disrupt your thread here.
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:50 PM Matthew Rebmann 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The color isn't my cup of tea either but I absolutely love that you went
>>> above and beyond for it. That's a sick build!
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>>>
 I agree with other commenters - a very nice build and selection of
 components (I wouldn't be able to tolerate that ass-hatchet saddle, though.
 It would get me right where my sciatica flares up).  I'm still not entirely
 on board with the frame/fender color, though, but to each his own.

 On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's
> no inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my
> porch of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle
> cages, and a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 
> pounds,
> but I concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.
>
> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding
> Ding! wrote:
>
>> Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like
>> a jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little
>> details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the 
>> inaugural
>> ride take you?
>>
>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat
>>> tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated
>>> Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 
>>> just
>>> states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and
>>> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
>>> have
>>> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is 
>>> one of
>>> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  
>>> Meditating
>>> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and
>>> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.
>>>
>>> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra
>>> machine-shop time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed
>>> grinding off the lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed
>>> down/stalled on the brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique 
>>> about
>>> this from my earlier builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, 
>>> which
>>> was a new procedure for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse
>>> cantilever brakes, which have a number of their own idiosyncratic 
>>> nuances.
>>> I got the front set up, and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  
>>> The
>>> Flickr album has more shots in it.
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?

 On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay
 wrote:

> SMH
>
> Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on
> Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>
>> I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!
>>
>> Toshi
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: New Frame Day (the build commences)

[vernon brooks]

Lovely custom and selection can’t wait to see the finished project! I too
recently picked up my wife’s frame that was painted by Rick at D Had to
do my best not to chime in with photos and disrupt your thread here.

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 7:50 PM Matthew Rebmann 
wrote:

> The color isn't my cup of tea either but I absolutely love that you went
> above and beyond for it. That's a sick build!
>
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-5 George Schick wrote:
>
>> I agree with other commenters - a very nice build and selection of
>> components (I wouldn't be able to tolerate that ass-hatchet saddle, though.
>> It would get me right where my sciatica flares up).  I'm still not entirely
>> on board with the frame/fender color, though, but to each his own.
>>
>> On Sunday, February 18, 2024 at 6:52:24 PM UTC-6 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> The pre-fenders build is now complete.  It's pouring rain so there's no
>>> inaugural ride and the lighting is poor but I took a few shots on my porch
>>> of the bike looking like a complete bike.  With two water bottle cages, and
>>> a pump, and a front rack the bike is still just under 20 pounds, but I
>>> concede it will be over 20 pounds with fenders.
>>>
>>> The album is updated, scroll to the end:
>>> https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-8 Bicycle Belle Ding
>>> Ding! wrote:
>>>
 Pretty fabulous! Can’t believe how quick you put that together. Like a
 jackrabbit on a date, as they say! I’m excited to see all the little
 details at the end, oh please let them be sparkly. Where will the inaugural
 ride take you?

 On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Rule #8 is one of "The Rules" of the Velominati.  It's a somewhat
> tongue in cheek, somewhat serious group of cyclists who have enumerated
> Rules of activity and fashion for cycling and for bicycles.  Rule #8 just
> states that the handlebars, saddle and tires must be very carefully and
> deliberately matched, and states that the easiest way to do that is to 
> have
> the tires, saddle and handlebars all black.  Meditating on a rule is one 
> of
> the joke-penance things that the Velominati tell people to do.  Meditating
> on Rule #8 is my attempt at a joke that means my handlebar tape, and
> saddle, and tires are all going to be black.
>
> I made good progress yesterday, and spent a bit of extra machine-shop
> time making custom decorative headset spacers and indeed grinding off the
> lawyer lips.  I got the cockpit assembled and slowed down/stalled on the
> brake setup.  There are two parts new and unique about this from my 
> earlier
> builds.  I am using fancy Jagwire Elite housing, which was a new procedure
> for me, and I'm using the very elegant Rene Herse cantilever brakes, which
> have a number of their own idiosyncratic nuances.  I got the front set up,
> and I stopped there for meditation of my own.  The Flickr album has more
> shots in it.
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Friday, February 16, 2024 at 7:20:01 AM UTC-8 steve...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> Okay, I'll bitewhat is this rule #8 of which you speak?
>>
>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 6:44:14 PM UTC-5 Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>>> SMH
>>>
>>> Meditate on Rule #8, consider my Legolas, meditate much longer on
>>> Rule #8, and then recite Rule #8
>>>
>>> Bill Lindsay
>>> El Cerrito, CA
>>>
>>> On Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 3:42:06 PM UTC-8 ttoshi wrote:
>>>
 I'm guessing blue bar tape to match the headbadge!

 Toshi

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Re: [RBW] Re: Why baskets and front bags instead of rear panniers or perfect Rivendell saddlebags?

[vernon brooks]

I’ve tried out a lot of different set ups with my Atlantis and ultimately
landed on handlebar bag with Mini front rack. Having a basket is nice for
hauling stuff around, but I found it feels a little clunky and out of place
because I primarily ride drop bars. I am in the process of restoring a
Rambouillet for my wife that will get albatross bars and a front basket.
Very excited for the build frame is at D getting a fresh paint job from
Rick.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 1:59 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Photo of Lightning Bolt, please?
>
> On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 2:54 PM ian m  wrote:
>
>> No harm no foul. My newest bike is a Crust Lightning Bolt currently
>> sporting a front basket, wide(ish) drop bars, platform pedals, a leather
>> saddle, and XTR rapid rise derailer. Everything I want out of a road(ish)
>> bike.
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Re: [RBW] Re: WTB: Roadini 57cm

[vernon brooks]

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/bik/d/napa-rivendell-roadini-54cm/7686933546.html
 54cm complete in Napa!

On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 12:44 PM Kim H.  wrote:

> @Neale,
> There is a whole bike in Ellensburg, WA, but it is a 50cm.
>
> https://seattle.craigslist.org/see/bik/d/ellensburg-rivendell-roadini/7676911394.html
>
> Kim Hetzel.
>
> On Monday, November 13, 2023 at 12:33:34 PM UTC-8 Neale S. wrote:
>
>> Anyone sitting on a complete or a frameset?
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Re: [RBW] WTB: Silver Triple & Wavie Bar

[vernon brooks]

Hey James might be interested in the Rene Herse crank are you able to share
a link?

On Sat, Nov 4, 2023 at 11:04 AM James  wrote:

> Interested in a Nitto Wavie bar or something similar and a silver triple
> crank, 173 or longer length.  I have a RH triple for sale on another post
> and am open to trades.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Parts sale San Francisco

[vernon brooks]

RH chainrings SOLD

On Wed, Nov 1, 2023 at 5:34 PM vernon brooks 
wrote:

> Noodles, stem, and R14 SOLD pending payment.
>
> On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 4:16:32 PM UTC-7 vernon brooks wrote:
>
>> I've listed a few items for sale on craigslist that may be of interest to
>> some here. Willing to ship at buyers expense if not local. Links below.
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-nitto-parts/7683080913.html
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-rene-herse-chainrings/7683084856.html
>>
>>
>> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-bruce-gordon-touring-rack/7683086012.html
>>
>> Feel free to reach out with any questions!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vern in San Francisco
>>
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[RBW] Re: Parts sale San Francisco

[vernon brooks]

Noodles, stem, and R14 SOLD pending payment.

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 4:16:32 PM UTC-7 vernon brooks wrote:

> I've listed a few items for sale on craigslist that may be of interest to 
> some here. Willing to ship at buyers expense if not local. Links below.
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-nitto-parts/7683080913.html
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-rene-herse-chainrings/7683084856.html
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-bruce-gordon-touring-rack/7683086012.html
>
> Feel free to reach out with any questions!
>
> Thanks,
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[RBW] Re: Parts sale San Francisco

[vernon brooks]

Noodle bars, stem, and R14 rack spoken SOLD pending payment.

On Wednesday, November 1, 2023 at 4:16:32 PM UTC-7 vernon brooks wrote:

> I've listed a few items for sale on craigslist that may be of interest to 
> some here. Willing to ship at buyers expense if not local. Links below.
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-nitto-parts/7683080913.html
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-rene-herse-chainrings/7683084856.html
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-bruce-gordon-touring-rack/7683086012.html
>
> Feel free to reach out with any questions!
>
> Thanks,
> Vern in San Francisco
>
>
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[RBW] Parts sale San Francisco

[vernon brooks]

I've listed a few items for sale on craigslist that may be of interest to 
some here. Willing to ship at buyers expense if not local. Links below.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-nitto-parts/7683080913.html

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-rene-herse-chainrings/7683084856.html

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-bruce-gordon-touring-rack/7683086012.html

Feel free to reach out with any questions!

Thanks,
Vern in San Francisco


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Re: [RBW] WTB: Toyo Built Atlantis

[vernon brooks]

Woul love to see a photo of the frame you have for sale.

Also price and location?

Thanks,
Vern in San Francisco


On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 4:17 PM Old And In The Weeds <
oldandinthewe...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a 58cm Frameset for sale, if any interest.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On Friday, July 14, 2023, dylan green  wrote:
>
>> Thanks everyone - still looking. The 58 in indy sold while I was emailing
>> with him...
>>
>> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 11:42:21 AM UTC-7 mrg...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> No guarantees but this geo chart might be close.
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 13, 2023 at 11:58:20 AM UTC-5 gravelr...@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi all butting into this here because I am interested in this bike. Can
 anyone comment on how it rides/feels compared to the Atlantis nowadays?
 Also, does anyone have the size chart for the 58? I messaged the seller and
 they didn't know. I'm looking for minimum pbh, rider height etc. Anyways,
 would love some input because I've been searching for one of these forever!

 On Tuesday, July 11, 2023 at 1:28:40 PM UTC-4 dylantho...@gmail.com
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> Still looking for a mid 2000's Toyo Built Atlantis. 700c.
> I previously had a 58 with drops and it felt long, so I'd
> consider a 56 too.
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[RBW] Parts for sale in San Francisco

[vernon brooks]

Once again I'm cleaning house.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-rivendell-nitto-rene/7644522552.html

Reach out with any questions.

Enjoy the ride,
Vern in San Francisco

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[RBW] Parts for sale in San Francisco

[vernon brooks]

Once again I'm cleaning house.

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-rivendell-nitto-rene/7644522552.html

Reach out would any questions.

Enjoy the ride,
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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[vernon brooks]

Luke thank you for the bike complement! 

Today I was driving back from Santa Cruz and saw a group of cyclists that 
appeared to be heading back from camping on Hwy 1 near Half Moon Bay. One 
of the people in the group was riding an Atlantis with rainbow top tube. 
Was it you by chance?  

I'm always happy when I see others enjoying their Rivs in the wild, 
especially when it's in such a beautiful setting.

Happy Sunday,

Vern in San Francisco

On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 10:31:22 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:

> Vern! So lovely.
>
> Luke also in San Francisco
>
> On Wednesday, May 3, 2023 at 8:26:48 PM UTC-7 plumber...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Brief update after some spring cleaning. Rich built up a nice new set of 
>> wheels with a generator hub to power the front light. I am figuring out 
>> what to do about the cable still. Zip ties will do for now. Looking at the 
>> fork it kind of reminds me of some funky racing stripes, anyway. Tips are 
>> encouraged! 
>>  
>> [image: thumbnail_IMG_0123.jpg]
>>
>> Enjoy the ride,
>> Vern in San Francisco
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, April 28, 2023 at 10:41:28 PM UTC-7 Dean Henderson wrote:
>>
>>> From November, 2022... Got the frame in January 2020 and finished enough 
>>> to ride in October 2022. 
>>>
>>> [image: Rivendell Atlantis.jpg]
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 9:45:14 PM UTC-4 John Rinker wrote:
>>>
 Love that brown Atlantis and, yes, beautiful build. Here's my 2005 Toyo 
 Atlantis on the Sky Islands East route yesterday. 
 [image: IMG_0314.jpeg]
 Cheers, John
 On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 2:01:15 PM UTC-7 jamin orrall wrote:

> Thanks again Jim, I have been enjoying it so much!
>
> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 1:53:52 PM UTC-7 Jim S. wrote:
>
>> Jamin, i love the build! Glad it found a good home!
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 27, 2023, 15:17 jamin orrall  wrote:
>>
>>> Loving these new additions! here is mine! Waterford built.[image: 
>>> 05810023 Large.jpeg][image: 05810020 Large.jpeg][image: 
>>> 05810022 Large.jpeg]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, April 27, 2023 at 9:20:22 AM UTC-7 Jim Whorton wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Enjoying this thread.  Here is my new Atlantis on its first ride, 
 March 30.  It is from the most recent batch of Atlantis frames.  I 
 collected parts slowly, built it up in super slow motion, and it felt 
 great 
 on that first ride.  Expecting a set of dyno lights from Peter White 
 any 
 day now.  A couple old parts found their way on: a new old stock Deore 
 XT 
 M750 rear hub and a Suntour thumb shifter.  

 Jim Whorton in Rochester, NY

 [image: IMG_9544(1).jpg]
 [image: IMG_0012(1).jpg]

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Re: [RBW] Re: Show Me Your Atlantis!

[vernon brooks]

Thank you for the input and image Bill. 

I've thought about fabricating something similar and agree with the 
statement regarding p-clamp use although it does the trick in a pinch.

Will follow with a conclusion if some sort.

Vern in San Francisco

On Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 9:38:08 AM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:

> Vern,
>
> I had some steel flat stock maybe 1/2" by 1/8".  I cut two pieces maybe 
> 1.5" in length and drilled holes at the ends.  Because the BG racks have 
> the long mounting slot that allow for lots of adjustment, the measurements 
> did not need to be terribly precise.  I rounded off the corners and 
> painted.  I've done this on two bikes now with very satisfactory results.  
> The Atlantis has done two one week trips on GDMBR and one two month (~300 
> miles of gravel) trip to Alaska all heavily loaded with this arrangement 
> with zero issues.  They are rock solid.  P clamps and U bolts are 
> aesthetically unpleasing to me but probably perfectly adequate.[image: 
> IMG_1618.JPG]
> [image: Screenshot 2023-04-26 at 9.27.17 AM.png]
> This was fresh gravel.  We also encountered rough stuff and I never had 
> any problems.  I think I used nylon lock nuts on the lower bolts.
>
> Bill S
> San Diego
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 8:17:00 PM UTC-7 plumber...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> [image: thumbnail_IMG_9772.jpg]
>> TLC due will follow up with another image shortly.
>>
>> Bill in SD I have the same BG rack set and am wondering if you have a 
>> close up shot of front mounting points? 
>>
>> My fork only had lower eyelets so maybe I need to use p-clamps to secure 
>> upper mounts to the fork...
>>
>> Vern in San Francisco
>> On Tuesday, April 25, 2023 at 2:18:30 PM UTC-7 Bill Schairer wrote:
>>
>>> [image: IMG_1615.jpeg]
>>> Bill S
>>> San Diego
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 9:43:17 PM UTC-7 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>>>

 I support that idea dude
 On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 4:50:17 PM UTC-7 larson@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Looks great! I have thought about an Atlantis set up with knobby tires 
> and a bullmoose bar as my mtb.
>
> On Monday, October 10, 2022 at 2:00:41 PM UTC-5 Luke Hendrickson wrote:
>
>> Imma revive this thread with my dream Riv. I’ve since added dust caps 
>> to the crankset, but otherwise this is as it appears now (well, I also 
>> changed the cassette but whatever).
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB: affordable 650b wheelset

[vernon brooks]

Hey Bill did you sell these wheels?

On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 4:12:06 PM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> I have exactly what you need, I think.  
>
> I just sold a barely used Yves Gomez.  I had hoped to move all the parts 
> over to a larger Gomez, but it looks like that's not going to happen.  So, 
> I have the wheelset available.  I bought these new from Riv, and they've 
> seen 200-300 miles of use.  They are Velocity Synergy rims on Deore hubs, 
> functionally identical to the Rivendell $360 budget wheelset.  I'm looking 
> for $225 plus shipping.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
>
> On Sunday, April 24, 2022 at 1:55:25 PM UTC-7 sof...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Casually seeking a used set of wheels, ideally under $400. Would love 
>> something like the Velocity Atlas/Cliffhanger + Shimano Deore hub sets 
>> that's currently sold out on Riv, but I'm open to others. Try me! 
>
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[RBW] parts for sale

[vernon brooks]

I have posted some parts for sale on craigslist. Local sale is preferred 
but I suppose I could ship at buyer's expense. 

https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bop/d/san-francisco-crust-rivendell-paul/7583311691.html

Thanks,
Vern in San Francisco

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[RBW] Seeking rim input

[vernon brooks]

Hello everyone hope you've all enjoyed a casual ride this weekend!

I'm looking for some input on rims. I recently purchased a Bombadil from a 
member on here and am planning on having new wheels built up. After 
enduring a painful wait I have received my rear hub from White Industries 
front will have a generator. Thankfully they were ahead of the initial 
estimated wait time. I have a set of 48mm RH knobbies that I plan on 
running once the wheels are build but might switch it up.  

What 650B rims are you running these days? 

Thanks in advance,
Vern

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Re: [RBW] WTB 59cm Atlantis

[vernon brooks]

Yes Matthew this is the one that I mentioned before. I hadn't heard back 
from Coco so figured she had found something already. I would be interested 
in trading for another Rivendell if anyone here has something slightly 
smaller. My Toyo Atlantis is a 58cm and fits like a dream for reference. 

On Sunday, April 10, 2022 at 4:42:16 PM UTC-7 Matthew Williams wrote:

> Hi Coco, here's a 59 if you're still looking!
>
>
> https://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/bik/d/san-francisco-rivendell-atlantis-59cm/7469475805.html
>
> (Vern, is this yours?)
>
>
>
> On Mar 9, 2022, at 1:42 PM, Coco Menk  wrote:
>
> Look here... An eagle soars through the sky. A wind, harsh as its 
> surroundings, blows.
> Look here... A beaver perched upon the ice, long awaited the newly emerged 
> skunk cabbage in the swamps.
> Look there... Two intrepid travelers setting out for an adventure
> Oh no! It seems one of them is missing a 59cm Atlantis! Lo! perhaps one of 
> you can help! 
>
> We're headed out for an extended distanced tour fairly soon and hoping to 
> have a long tail Atlantis 59 to go with us. Please spare us the humiliation 
> of being upright on conventional geometry!
>
> Sending love out in these trying times <3!
> Coco
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 3:09:38 PM UTC-4 Coco Menk wrote:
>
>> Almost had one but owner backed out at the last minute - was originally 
>> thinking 62 cm for my bf because he is quite tall, but he's now saying he 
>> would prefer the 59. Looking for the newer geo please! :)
>>
>> Coco
>>
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[RBW] Re: WTB 59cm Atlantis

[vernon brooks]

Hey Coco wondering where you're located? I'm San Francisco Bay Area. 
Recently I purchased a newer 59cm Atlantis complete and quickly found it 
too large for my riding style. I do have a friend who is interested in the 
bike but have seen your post pop up a couple times now. I would prefer to 
sell the bike locally but if said person backs out i would consider 
shipping. You're welcome to send me an email and I can follow up with you 
if the sale falls through.

Thanks, 
Vern

On Wednesday, March 9, 2022 at 1:42:52 PM UTC-8 coco...@gmail.com wrote:

> Look here... An eagle soars through the sky. A wind, harsh as its 
> surroundings, blows.
> Look here... A beaver perched upon the ice, long awaited the newly emerged 
> skunk cabbage in the swamps.
> Look there... Two intrepid travelers setting out for an adventure
> Oh no! It seems one of them is missing a 59cm Atlantis! Lo! perhaps one of 
> you can help! 
>
> We're headed out for an extended distanced tour fairly soon and hoping to 
> have a long tail Atlantis 59 to go with us. Please spare us the humiliation 
> of being upright on conventional geometry!
>
> Sending love out in these trying times <3!
> Coco
> On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 at 3:09:38 PM UTC-4 Coco Menk wrote:
>
>> Almost had one but owner backed out at the last minute - was originally 
>> thinking 62 cm for my bf because he is quite tall, but he's now saying he 
>> would prefer the 59. Looking for the newer geo please! :)
>>
>> Coco
>>
>

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