Re: [RBW] Road Trip to Tennessee and Maybe Georgia!
Same thing here, brother, just a crushing winter. It's been just awful. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 20:28:14 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Road Trip to Tennessee and Maybe Georgia! Tonight, over a pitcher of Detroit's finest brew, Ghetto Blaster, a friend and I decided to take a road trip down south so we could have an epic cycling adventure. Things have been a little rough recently and considering the 4*F weather weare having in Michigan there's no chance at getting a long ride in. So I need your guidance and advice on good paths, trails, food spots and anything else you can think of between those two states. Odds are we'll be driving down to Atlanta - where it's supposed to be sunny with highs close to the 60 degree mark all weekend long - yay! :) Thanks in advance for your help! Ami -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Brand V Grab Sack
I was thinking of the insurance commercial. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 13:19:17 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Brand V Grab Sack On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:15 PM, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: All I can say is It's a European shoulder bag It was a gift. Roll eyes to right. I bought a grab sack as a gift for someone and they love it. functional, attractive and simple, they use it daily. They also loved the vegan-ness of it. Maybe I am not understanding your tone here, but is the eye-roll supposed to be snarky? You need to remember in email communications that tone doesn't exist. Please try to be more plain in your comments. Thanks, -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Helmet Cameras Capture Bad Driving
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 04:04:23 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Helmet Cameras Capture Bad Driving From my view, it appears the banging noise was the van running into the cyclist. Even if he did bang on the van, what of it? The van was forcing him into road barricades. Are you saying you would not expect a car to sound its horn in that situation? On Feb 1, 9:32 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Banging on the side of the vehicle? All bets are off at that point, you're on your own. On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: A friend sent me this link to a BBC News UK article. Interesting thought that might be applicable to some who are commuting on a regular basis. Here's the link http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12334486 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Helmet Cameras Capture Bad Driving
Apply the brakes, give the much larger vehicle, right or wrong, the right of way, and continue on. Better to live to fight another day. He is absolutely right to demand his space in the lane. But so what?! If you're in your Honda Civic and a large truck turns in on you what will you do? Apply the brakes. You want to get in someones face in some sort of road rage, get in a fight and most likely take an ass kicking over that? Even if you win you lose. No doubt about it, a lot of Britains cycling lanes are a joke, a lot of narrow, oddly directed streets, never intended for cars etc., which makes a bad situation worse. I'm a big guy w/ 4 years in the 82d Airborne and if it comes to it, I'll kick your ass, or at least am willing to take an ass kicking if someone is willfully trying to hurt me, but up to that point will do everything to avoid that. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 04:04:23 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Helmet Cameras Capture Bad Driving From my view, it appears the banging noise was the van running into the cyclist. Even if he did bang on the van, what of it? The van was forcing him into road barricades. Are you saying you would not expect a car to sound its horn in that situation? On Feb 1, 9:32 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Banging on the side of the vehicle? All bets are off at that point, you're on your own. On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: A friend sent me this link to a BBC News UK article. Interesting thought that might be applicable to some who are commuting on a regular basis. Here's the link http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12334486 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Helmet Cameras Capture Bad Driving
So are you packing heat on every ride? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2011 07:58:24 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [RBW] Helmet Cameras Capture Bad Driving If they are that close to me I'm not only banging on the side of the vehicle I'm out to break glass do whatever I have to. If you pull a weapon (vehicle) and endanger my life, bets aren't off for me protecting myself. It's called self defense. Not to mention there isn't time at that point to just say excuse me sir, your actions are in the process of getting me killed.. could we have a tea and discuss it please... not me sorry I'm not a victim and won't be for anyone. Kelly -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of robert zeidler Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:33 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Helmet Cameras Capture Bad Driving Banging on the side of the vehicle? All bets are off at that point, you're on your own. On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote: A friend sent me this link to a BBC News UK article. Interesting thought that might be applicable to some who are commuting on a regular basis. Here's the link http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12334486 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] 64 CM Bombadil looks small....
Nice. You got more snow coming. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:17:00 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [RBW] 64 CM Bombadil looks small St Louis Missouri.. This is along the River Front Trail by the Arch.. or actually about 3 miles up river. -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of robert zeidler Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 7:30 AM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] 64 CM Bombadil looks small Where is this ride? On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 8:54 PM, Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: With me on it.. :) http://www.flickr.com/photos/tksleeper/5401821563/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis
How so my friend? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 03:02:19 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis I think, Robert, that this all depends upon ones perspective. Angus On Jan 27, 1:45 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: If they are built here, they are better. Think about everything bad that's associated w/ a Taiwanese made product. On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Angus angusle...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Bob, I've had two Rivendells (non Atlantis) built by Waterford. They were very well done. I've had two Rivendell (one an Atlantis) built by Toyo. They were also very well done. I have not been able to detect a difference. Angus On Jan 22, 10:34 pm, Bob prov...@umbc.edu wrote: How does the Toyo built Atlantis differ in quality and/or geometry from the Waterford edition? Exclude differences in braze-ons, kickstand plate and range of sizes. In other words, what, if anything, was gained or lost by the change in builder? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis
No of course not. Just home-team 1st trade. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 18:20:39 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Toyo versus Waterford Atlantis On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 18:05 -0500, robert zeidler wrote: I'm not saying we have to be green, but every product has to be shipped by plane, boat or something equally inefficient from a long way away. You'll have to ride it every day, a long way to offset that. The wages are paid to someone who will spend that money... not here. You on the other hand will pay a little less to support that person, but will pay a lot more in taxes, to support the person(s) you did not pay for his labor etc., here. You will pay taxes on borrowed money (mostly form mainland China). It's true that there are wars etc., to support , also w/ borrowed money. That's besides the point here. If the product is equal in quality and every other facet of its existence doesn't it make sense to spend that money here, even if it's a little more? So, you are against all international trade? I'm not a big business supporter but I'm always amazed when people talk about the greed of big business. They, just like a person who is thrifty or cheap, just want to keep more of what they earn. The numbers are just larger but it's all relative. So by purchasing something made overseas that can be sourced here is in effect screwing your fellow American, even if unknowingly, or unintended. And to top it off, it's often said that every one of those borrowed dollars, that's paid in unemployment returns $1.60 to the economy. Then why don't we just lay everybody off and watch things take right off! I find arguments like this much more persuasive when they focus on things like importing garlic from mainland China (like, we don't grow garlic here?) than bicycle frames and components from Taiwan. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc.
Obviously your priorities are in order. Great book BTW. Big proponent of nukes. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:06:23 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: game changer dyno hub, bikes, cars, being green etc. Thomas Friedman couldn't have said it better... In fact (in Hot, Flat and Crowded) he takes several pages to say as much... A real eye- opener indeed... Perhaps we need to consume far less of everything, and HOPE (and PRAY) the rest of the developing world still aspires to emulate us... But I digress. I sure would like a second Riv... On Jan 27, 4:17 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I agree, the drag on my SON is non-noticeable and even that on the Shimanos is non-noticeable. And hub dynos are so *cool*! -- regardless of utility. (I remember an early, bike-accessory splurge, about age 12 or 13, Delhi, circa 1968, a cheap (but shiny!) bottle and headlight and tail lamp combo, all chromed! Largely useless as I didn't ride at night except to test out the dynamo. And the drag was so bad I shortly got rid of it.) As for our post-petroleum future, I am not sanguine about electrical-ization, nyuculer power, wind energy or solar bliss. Ponder this: we USers use some huge % of the world's resources -- note, this is not a moral judgment, just a statement of fact. We get away with it because we have a huge country hugely gifted in natural resources and a small, relatively, population -- and yes, dammit, I am proud to be an American, even though I know we live far too large. Now: we want to export our American Way of Life to alla the resta the world -- 3 suvs, 3600 faux Tuscan villa on 1/8 acre, giant LED screens in every room, air conditioning to make indoor temps different from outside temps by 40 degrees all the time, piles of cheap Chinese made electronic junk cheaply shipped from China, travel to Bahamas at each quarterly vacation. So, 1.5B Chinese, 1.2B Indians and untold billions of others are yearning to imitate what they see on TV etc of our life. They try hard and begin to succeed. What then? Can you follow these thoughts to their expected conclusion? Few seem to want to think this out -- or else take for granted that billions will continue to rest content with the scraps we throw them as cheap labor for our cheap and affordable large living. No, we are in for a change. Someone asked Gandhi, What do you think of western civilization? He replied, I think it would be a good idea. Patrick when the apocalypse comes, I am doomed because my Rivs won't take more than 35s Moore On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:04 PM, JoelMatthews joelmatth...@mac.com wrote: Personally I think a dyno hub is always a good idea, regardless of season. In the summer (even with long days) it simply extends your riding and removes daylight limitations... As far as the idea of a clutch mechanism IMO, the clutch mechanism dynohub is a solution looking for a problem. The drag on my SON hub bikes is so minimal I never notice it. The clutch dyno will almost certainly have more moving parts than a SON. Maybe it should not be this way, but seems the more components that make up a product, the more chance the product will malfunction. Add to the mix this particular company is looking to compete pricewise with the entry level dynos. Time will tell, but I smell a bust. On Jan 27, 11:10 am, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: Personally I think a dyno hub is always a good idea, regardless of season. In the summer (even with long days) it simply extends your riding and removes daylight limitations... As far as the idea of a clutch mechanism, I haven't been able to noticeably detect drag on any of the dynamo hubs I've ridden (Schmidt, Shimano, SRAM and Sturmey- Archer). Then again, I'm not a go-fast rider, nor particularly sensitive to riding subtleties, so it would take major drag before I'd begin to notice it... not to say others won't feel it... I simply seem to be insensitive to it. Peace, Bobby Ain't feelin' the drag Birmingham On Jan 27, 4:43 am, charlie charles_v...@hotmail.com wrote: I'm looking to get one of the new dyno hubs but can't seem to get a firm price. I'd even pay in advance. It will be getting lighter out soon so it might be moot for me to even have one until next fall. Seems like the timing is a little off on these. Bikes and cars yea.what a long discussion all that was, what with being green and all..I say its all hogwash. If we do run out of fossil fuels you can kiss our roadways goodbye we'll all be walking like Grok eventually and society will be back in the stone age. The fact is, we humans are too dumb to figure it out from
Re: [RBW] Re: SFR Lighthouse 200k
Can't wait. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2011 15:04:14 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: SFR Lighthouse 200k This is a PBP year, and a great time to experience even a bit of the joy of randonneuring with the folks who will be traveling to France. Check around for brevets near you! --Eric N On Jan 23, 2011, at 2:30 PM, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: You folks that ride brevets, never mind a SR just amaze me! I can do a flat 100K if I push myself, but that's about the limit. Bon route to you all! On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: William, congrats on the brevet. Sounds like a good time. I know that route and have ridden variations of it multiple times. I hope someday to make it down there for a brevet with SFR. I hope you'll consider doing a full Super Randonneur series (200, 300, 400 and 600k). As hard as it can be I assure you it's, overall, a great experience. My first brevet of the year will be the Birkie 200k in March. This will be my 4th time riding it. The first time I did it it rained for every single kilometer of the ride. The second time it rained for most of the ride. Last year it was gorgeous and I was able to finish in just under 8hrs. This year... who knows what the weather will do or how I'll choose to ride it. If my rando bike is finished and together I'll ride that but if not I may ride the QB. There's really only one climb so it's doable on the QB. If I ride the Hilsen I may opt to do it in platform pedals. I did a 200k last year like that and it wasn't so bad. We'll see. Anyway, congrats on the brevet William. I'm at work so I can't view the pictures but I'll check them out when I'm back home tonight. Thanks for posting your report and link to the pictures on the list. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA ...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance. - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That
Ditto. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2011 14:06:11 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Tone, OT and Stuff Like That But it is a list about Riv stuff and nothing but Riv stuff (and how we use it, which is- to me- often the more interesting discussion). We all have other resources for talking about other stuff- back channel discussions if we really want to talk to particular list members about other non-Riv stuff, and of course family and friends. I like having the specific focus. And, of course, it's Jim's list and he gets to set the rules. ;-) Tim On Jan 22, 2011, at 12:02 PM, robert zeidler wrote: He's right, but constant talk about Riv stuff is... a bit boring. Kind of like discussing Led Zeppelin-there's only some many ways to beat the limited number of songs to death, until you've said all there is to say-several times. My .02 RGZ On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 12:23 PM, CycloFiend cyclofi...@earthlink.net wrote: Hey all - As I mentioned in the State of the List Report, I have a work project which is taking a significant amount of time and energy right now. Thought I've been able to track and comment on a few posts as a list member, I really hadn't been going through all the postings with my admin hat on. This may be a little blunt, as I need to get out the door (to work, rather than what is shaping up to be one of the most gorgeous days in memory on which the Lighthouse 200K was run...g) I appreciate that everyone kept a respectful tone during the OT threads which cropped up in the past week. That speaks a great deal about the people in this group who are committed to one of the core principles. But, I will ask people to remember that OT threads are OT. The topic of discussion within this group is defined on the main group page: Dedicated to the discussion of Rivendell Bicycles and products, you don't need to own one - just an interest in RBW designs is enough to join in. Ride reports encouraged, as is a respectful, supportive and polite tone in all posts. This group is not endorsed by Rivendell Bicycle Works. I'm in the habit of letting marginally OT threads exist, in the hopes that they will end of themselves. It always (or only, depending upon your perspective) takes two people to propogate such a discussion. So, I would ask that if you find yourself to be one of those people, please stop or take it to an off-list channel. I'm aware of how the discussions began and how it arched to where it ended, and honestly am pleased to see that they seem to have now been dropped. The strength of this group is a product of its focus and the quality of the information and responses. Hope everyone can have a great ride today! - Jim / list admin -- Jim Edgar cyclofi...@earthlink.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Different weather for different folks
I appreciate your reply. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Abcyclehank hankinso...@me.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 18:56:13 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Different weather for different folks First season with it, so not much time to truly assess it. However it was purchased and meets needs perfectly for a steel ride that can handle harsh winter conditions. This keeps my fair weather bike, a 71cm Nobilette custom, out of the roughest elements the Midwest can offer. After riding various bikes that have just been two small, 62-64cm, for the previous decade or so, I have just evolved/converted to Riv sizing, comfort, and velosophy. This Bilenky at it's size matches closely and I expect you will find the same with yours when it arrives in the near future. Sincerely, Ryan On Jan 20, 9:06 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: I have a Bilenky coming in March Interestingly long chainstays. How do you like it? RGZ On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Abcyclehank hankinso...@me.com wrote: Fair weather riders- Here are a few pictures of my winter ride, 66cm Bilenky with S S couplers, outfitted with studded tires for traction on icy roads and bike paths. Only a short 7 mile ride outside after snow blowing drive for 45 minutes early afternoon. Cold weather will push me inside on the trainer the next few day highs expected in single digits with wind chills in the negative teens. Still love all the seasons but enjoy cycling more in the fall and summer along West Michigan roadways. Ryan http://gallery.me.com/hankinson10/100248/DSC06139. http://gallery.me.com/hankinson10/100248/DSC06141. http://gallery.me.com/hankinson10/100248/DSC06142. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Different weather for different folks
I know where it is! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 05:26:21 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Different weather for different folks Nice bike. I like the simplicity. I found indexed shifting doesn't hold up in NE winters. But as soon as the road temps warm enough to produce slush I couldn't imagine riding without fenders. I love my Bilenky coupled tandem and have been thinking about getting a single retrofitted. Mostly in the winter I focus on yoga and snow shoeing, since I'm way out in the boonies. I keep thinking about buying a set of studded tires, but then I turn on the weather report and see that the overnight lows will be -25 and the daytime hi around zero and I think, maybe not right now. michael Westford, VT (and don't bother looking for it on a map, you wont find it!) On Jan 20, 7:27 pm, Abcyclehank hankinso...@me.com wrote: Fair weather riders- Here are a few pictures of my winter ride, 66cm Bilenky with S S couplers, outfitted with studded tires for traction on icy roads and bike paths. Only a short 7 mile ride outside after snow blowing drive for 45 minutes early afternoon. Cold weather will push me inside on the trainer the next few day highs expected in single digits with wind chills in the negative teens. Still love all the seasons but enjoy cycling more in the fall and summer along West Michigan roadways. Ryan http://gallery.me.com/hankinson10/100248/DSC06139.http://gallery.me.com/hankinson10/100248/DSC06141.http://gallery.me.com/hankinson10/100248/DSC06142. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
A lump of uranium goes a long way Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: newenglandbike matthiasbe...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 05:19:40 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 The developed world's been enjoying incredibly cheap energy courtesy of the Carboniferous Period for the past 150 years.The entire economy of the developed world is completely, inextricably, irrefutably based upon it.Fossil fuel deposits are kind of solar energy stored in battery cells- but think solar power, compressed concentrated over ~100 million of years. Incredibly potent. It's been stored there waiting to be exploited for another 300 million years, like a tycoon's fortune willed to a lucky grandchild.The thing is, we've been pissing through it, just like a rich kid squandering the family's wealth.Now some are betting that technology is going to magically save us from the coming energy crisis. But that kind of thinking is like the rich kid, realizing he's all but chewed through his entire inheritance, deciding to head to Las Vegas in a panic and betting the remainder at the roulette table. Modern solar technology is great but it won't fill the fuel tank of the modern world.There is no watt-per-watt replacement for fossil fuels, specifically coal, oil and methane. Nothing that matches the net energy gain of extracting the concentrated/compressed sunlight artifact from the earth and burning it. Once these potent energy sources are gone, they are gone, and subsequent generations will be left holding the bag in the form of a more barren, more contaminated, less bio-diverse world.Civilization and it's energy consumption will gradually downsize as fossil fuels are depleted. It won't be the first time the pinnacle of civilization has ebbed. It's happened all over the world, again and again, often for the same reason- depleted resources.The vast technological advancements of the past century+ were made possible by the easy extraction and combustion of fossil fuels, and the maintenance of these technologies is totally dependent on a steady supply of this cheap energy. Reduced dependence on this energy is not going to be made possible by increasing our need for it by increasing our initiative to develop new exotic technologies. It's like a drug addict trying to ease the desire for drugs by taking more drugs. Environmental concern is a compelling reason to walk or ride a bike, even if choosing to do so for enjoyment is probably more common. The fact is, reducing fossil fuel consumption while maintaining our economy is a hard if not impossible dilemma we're facing.Maybe you won't make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things, but to me, it's a matter of which side of a hard problem you chose to live your life. On Jan 20, 12:48 am, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote: B) I concur w/ Robert Z, wind/solar can't handle the load until some great extraordinary development in battery technology comes along. Not so fast.concentrating solar thermal breaks that misconceived limitation of solar. The sun heats up a reservoir of working fluid. The hot working fluid runs a steam generator turbine just like a combustion based power plant. In many cases the power plants connected to solar thermal arrays are regular power plants that had run on combustion. Those power plants run 24/7, even though the sun is only up 10 hours a day. We need a lot of those plants to make a big dent, but zero battery technology is needed to make that work. They are approaching the magical dollar a watt price point for that technology. When that happens, China tips to solar because then it's cheaper than building more coal plants, and then everything changes. On Jan 19, 7:52 pm, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: Oi! Lots of thoughts A) I applaud anyone who can commute via their Rivendell. Unfortunately for me, it's 40 mi from driveway to parking lot one way... I just can't commute by bike. I do carpool; so, four of us make the trip together, instead of each of us in four automobiles. (And whilst the obvious reply might be to either move to closer to work, or change to a job closer to home, neither of those ideas work: I don't want to live near where I work, and there's not as good of a job near home. Maybe one day, but, not at this time.) B) I concur w/ Robert Z, wind/solar can't handle the load until some great extraordinary development in battery technology comes along. However, I would like to make a comment along the lines of using the non-renewable resources: petroleum has far greater uses than being put into gas tanks, IMHO. Medicines that are petrochemical-based, lubricants, etc. (bicycle tires!); it's a shame that so much is used
Re: [RBW] European Hillborne Tour
You, Sir, are a lucky S.O.B. Are you camping? Where are you headed? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Adam oceanm...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 08:57:31 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] European Hillborne Tour Greetings All, I am planning a European tour for about a month this summer on my Hillborne. I have quite a few questions and wonder if anyone here knows of a more on-topic list serve to direct my questions towards. Cheers, Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18
Send it into space. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 14:12:21 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Rivbike Editorial of Jan. 18 On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, the biggest problem is, it's cheaper to get more uranium than it is to reprocess the spent fuel. They 'could' reprocess it, and recover, maybe upwards of 75%, for further use as nuclear fuel; it just costs more than getting more. So, they end up w/ quantities of spent fuel, that has to be put somewhere. That's the issue. Unless they can figure out how to convert that into stable arborium for Kevlar, or something else useful, instead of sitting around in glass or being shipped off to Yucca Mtn, well... the book The world without us by Alan Weisman: http://www.worldwithoutus.com/index2.html has a compelling chapter on the long-term storage of spent nuclear fuel and other toxic chemicals. The paragraphs on the linguists required to label the 'danger areas' with adequate warnings so that any intelligent life 1 years from now will know to stay away is fascinating. Well worth your time to read the book. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Oh snap! Now you can buy the ultimate crankset!
180mm? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: William tapebu...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:40:17 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Oh snap! Now you can buy the ultimate crankset! http://store.somafab.com/suoxcoplrocr.html Soma Fab actually has the Sugino OX801D in stock. Crankset and BB for a whopping $529. Way too expensive for many of us, and too spaceshippy looking for many of us. That's about what I thought it would cost. Somebody building a totally tricked-out Roadeo should run these and show them off. High-end road bits can still be carbon-free if they want to be. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Oh snap! Now you can buy the ultimate crankset!
To war! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: William tapebu...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:47:46 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Oh snap! Now you can buy the ultimate crankset! 180? Ha! Sugino doesn't even make them in 177.5mm To add insult to injury, they not only make them in 172.5mm (my size), they also make them in the vastly underrated 167.5mm. There should be a Clydesdale uprising to storm the gates of Sugino! On Jan 20, 1:42 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: 180mm? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: William tapebu...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 13:40:17 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Oh snap! Now you can buy the ultimate crankset! http://store.somafab.com/suoxcoplrocr.html Soma Fab actually has the Sugino OX801D in stock. Crankset and BB for a whopping $529. Way too expensive for many of us, and too spaceshippy looking for many of us. That's about what I thought it would cost. Somebody building a totally tricked-out Roadeo should run these and show them off. High-end road bits can still be carbon-free if they want to be. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Shoes
Sidi has megas and now goes up to 52 I think. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: James Warren jimcwar...@earthlink.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:21:03 -0800 (GMT-08:00) To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Shoes With bike shoes, I (size 13EE) always feel like I'm being told by the manufacturer, No, you with big feet are not allowed to ride bicycles with us. -Original Message- From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net Sent: Jan 18, 2011 4:02 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Shoes On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Michael_S wrote: It's amazing that these types of shoes http://www.vittoria1976.it/1976series_en.html are coming back in style. To bad none of them are ever made big enough. Don't Italians ever have size 48-50 feet? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Shoes
I wear 49 Sidis and just got a pair of 48 Exustar touring shoes but they seem a bit snug. The Sidi mtn bike shoes are perfect. Combine w/ A520 pedals and it doesn't get any better. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 18:02:22 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Shoes On Jan 18, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Michael_S wrote: It's amazing that these types of shoes http://www.vittoria1976.it/1976series_en.html are coming back in style. To bad none of them are ever made big enough. Don't Italians ever have size 48-50 feet? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Shoes
Anybody have Exustar's in 49 they want to part with? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 17:10:16 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Shoes http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/exustar-srt707-touring-shoes.html I have a pair of these, and they are not bad -- not wonderful wrt comfort and fit, but not bad at all for $100, and they look normal. AND, they are not blowing them out for $45. Please don't bring back the Vittoria whites! On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: wow I really like the Tourer model! And the price is reasonable. Would I look foppish in these shoes? I can just see the expression on my wifes face if I got a pair. It's amazing that these types of shoes http://www.vittoria1976.it/1976series_en.html are coming back in style. ~Mike On Jan 18, 11:08 am, williwoods willh...@yahoo.com wrote: no but they look pretty sweet. On Jan 18, 10:59 am, Bruce Baker bkno...@gmail.com wrote: Hey has anyone any experience with these bicycling shoes??http://www.quocpham.com/products/index.html Bruce- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Yoga; was [RBW ]
If you took that just do it to some major shoe mfg... Nah that would never work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: William Pustow bpus...@aol.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 19:00:10 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Yoga; was [RBW ] The bottom line isall yoga is good - just do it (I heard that somewhere). Oh, and this may not be a good advertisement for Bikram yoga, but those 6 miles after yoga may take a little longer. On Jan 18, 2011, at 6:53 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Thanks, Bill. I've heard good things about Bikram, and since they offer unlimited lessons for first month for $20 I may just take them up on it. The benefit of the two gymns is that they are very close (and cheaper) -- one almost literally across the street -- while Bikrams is a huge six miles away. We'll see. On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:48 PM, William Pustow bpus...@aol.com wrote: What's a little more heat in NM? Seriously, Bikram Yoga may initially seem a little harder than other types of yoga becauseit is. It's hot in there! It actually takes a few classes to get used to the heat and your instructor will probably tell you to take it slow and simply lay down and rest if the heat is getting to you. The trick for the first 2 or 3 sessions is to stay in the room for the entire class and just get used to the heat. The advantages to Bikram, in my opinion, is that the heat helps to loosen the muscles and that allows you to stretch a little further. I've also found that after a session you come out of the room with that feeling of total relaxation - similar to coming out of a sauna. I've come to this thread a little late so I apologize if this is a rehash. Anyway, try it, give it a chance and I think you'll like it. Bill - whose wife is a Bikram instructor. Louisville, Ky On Jan 18, 2011, at 1:46 PM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: Thanks for all the advice about yoga, which has made me decide to try it out. I'm not sure I want to start with Buckram's -- I didn't realize they included heat -- but one of the nearby gyms is sure to have classes. I realize that Defined Fitness or Sports and Wellness classes may not be the best, but I do need a venue that is close and convenient, otherwise I won't keep it up. We'll see. I think I'll at least stop by Bikram's this week and talk to them. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
This is the second suggestion for the Element. You find plenty of front seat comfort too. Thanks for your insight (no pun). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: j4gitr jstoes...@comcast.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 20:52:24 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I'm driving a Honda Element. I put my 68 cm Waterford Adventure Cycle inside. I have toted it with another bike and our gear for Ragbrai and the Katy trail with my 6'4 280# cousin next to me in the front seat. It's been one of the greatest most versatile vehicles I have ever owned. I'm 6'6 99PBH. Long legs and I fit comfortably. I've been driving it for 4 years now. On Jan 13, 5:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Well that's just it. I had a Focus SVT w/ a roof-rack for a bit, but as a bike hauler Bugs, a Brooks that you really can't get wet (only the heaviest baggy will work, but even they shred), so I thought the 4dr Wrangler might work. Fold/remove the back seat. Never measured the floor/ceiling distance. The new little Ford van has promise but doesn't have enough sex as far as I'm concerned. A VW GTI van would work. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:25:45 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Good luck with that. I had a General Motors mini van 6 years ago that I could do that with. When I got my Ford Mini 2 Years later I couldn't do it any more becauseof a bench rear seat an not enough length for my bikes anyway. Then went to roof racks. We are now looking at a full sized van. I don't think my bikes would fit inside a wranger without lowering the seat .. then I don't see the length with a rear seat. Since buying my Rivendells I've had a nightmare with roof mounts too. The only rack that works well is my tandem rack for fender clearance. I found a simliar design at draftmaster which is made for bikes with fenders. At 114 bucks I may have to buy some to replace my thules. I forgot to mention that locking the bikes to the roof has worked well ...though I hate the bugs and such.. the bra's just add wind resistance and kill gas milage dramatically. Kelly Good luck with that. robert zeidler wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I have the spare wheel Thule Rack. I like it. But if it rains Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:28:46 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Standard loading procedure: 1. Take front wheel off. Lean front wheel on side of vehicle. 2. Slide Homer in trunk of vehicle, back wheel first. Homer must be diagonal to fit fully. 3. Place front wheel in remaining open space in vehicle securely. RGZ - why not build a stand for your wheels? Sounds like a fun winter project and an excuse to go down to the hardware store ;) For us tall guys, it helps if you have an SUV / Station Wagon. I've contemplated loading it in a car with the rear seats folded. To do this I'd remove both front and rear wheels, lower the seat post and stem and then slide it in. I'm considering a car-rack/trailer hitch for vacationing this spring and summer ... anyone have any experience with Yakima or Thule tow- hitch racks? Ami On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
I have a fleet of vans-27 Fords and one Sprinter w/ 265k on it. We normally turn them over @ 160, but we're pushing the Sprinter to the last mile. Been very reliable. Can't get a Dodge any more, only M-B or Freightliner. There was a guy on the web a few years ago who customized one for sailboarding. May still be on there. I like the VW solution because I'd love a GTI. Do you remove the seatpost? RGZ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: rperks perks@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 16:57:39 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? Take a look at the Ford Transit connect. My buddy has one and we get two decent sized bikes in there. I can get my 63cm bikes into the VW Golf, but that is with one rear seat removed and the other folded down. Even with that the seat is like 1/8 from the headliner and people cringe when I shut the back hatch. http://www.flickr.com/photos/rperks1/5254096133/in/set-72157625583483616/ Smaller than the TC above and you a likely looking at seat removal, other than that you are in van territory. I dream of a Dodge Sprinter. Rob On Jan 13, 3:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike?
Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: 4WD-you probably got the same 30+ we got yesterday. Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. A certain fun factor too. RGZ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:20:14 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty easy. Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive home. You can't do that with an SUV. Frankly, an SUV like the Jeep, is the least useful shape for carrying cargo, and the van and mini van, while quite useful for many applications, are overkill for people who occasionally carry large items. michael, westford, vt. On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicleforhauling your bike?
Can't always ride to the start. I'll have to try the seat-down experiment. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 18:11:46 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle forhauling your bike? Hate to burst your fantasy but a friend has a four door wrangler and it was never that easy to get our bikes inside...we're both 6'3, riding ~63cm bikes with ~85cm saddle heights and they couldn't fit vertically even with front wheel removed. The Wrangler cabins are deceiving short, especially behind the rear seat. Usual procedure was to remove our front wheels, fold down the rear seat, and lay the bikes down flat, one on top of the other. He ended up buying one of the thule racks that attaches to the spare tire mount. Best way to haul your bike? Ride there! On Jan 13, 5:33 pm, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Well, all true, but also in the Jeeps favor: 4WD-you probably got the same 30+ we got yesterday. Removable tops, doors, so you also have a convertible. A certain fun factor too. RGZ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: MichaelH mhech...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:20:14 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group: What is the best vehicle for hauling your bike? I drive a 2010 Prius and have no trouble carrying either two full size bikes, or our Bilenkey, coupled touring tandem inside the car. Last summer we went from Vt to MI and back with the tandem inside our car. I have a Saris hitch rack that quickly carries two single bikes or the tandem in two parts, on the rack. My Thule Tandem roof rack, which is a rebranded ATOC Carrier, can carry the tandem, or a single bike, with fenders, on the roof. I have also used a Thule carrier (Criterium) that grips the down tube and therefore allows for fenders and quick access. I easily carry a 19 1/2 foot expedition canoe on top of my Prius, and the hatchback makes accessing equipment pretty easy. Last month, I drove up to an outlet and bought a full size, seven foot Christmas tree. The seller was amazed as I quickly tied up the entire tree, slid it inside my car and closed the hatchback for the drive home. You can't do that with an SUV. Frankly, an SUV like the Jeep, is the least useful shape for carrying cargo, and the van and mini van, while quite useful for many applications, are overkill for people who occasionally carry large items. michael, westford, vt. On Jan 13, 6:02 pm, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Here's why I ask? I'm thinking about some new (4) wheels, and would like to be able to keep the bike inside at times in the event of rain, theft-prevention etc. Thinking of maybe outfitting a Jeep Wrangler w/ a floor-mounted fork mount-just back the bike in, tighten the QR, slide the wheel in next to it Anyway, what is everybody else doing? RGZ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Tom Ritchey, in His Own Words
Yeah boy, a 65 x 58 custom. Oh man Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: William tapebu...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 13:20:48 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Tom Ritchey, in His Own Words If we ever do a tandem, we'll likely do the same. I'd love to see it. I'd hope to be able to consider buying one. On Jan 11, 9:48 pm, grant grant...@gmail.com wrote: This is rather long, sorry. I've owned a buncha Ritcheys. • lugged road frame from '76 • custom fillet frame from '81 • custom tandem fillet from '81 • non-custom road from '89 • custom mtn bike from '87 And my then girlfriend/now wife had a road frame, too. The first year of Rivendell, I had to sell EVERYTHING to pay bills. A disaster, but I had great replacements. Here are some observations on his frames---not presented as facts, just obbies: 1. The lugged one was one he made for the Palo Alto Bike Shop, then a hotshotshop (may still be, I dunno). They were Reynolds, lugged, and undecaled, but I got the decals and put them on. I hear Jobst Brandt had a hand in designing the decals. 2. Before I got that frame, the fastest local guy in our club, Rick Baldwin, had three, with the fillet stem and all. One was a criterium bike, with fork crown points on the outside that extended halfway down the forkblades, all the better to stiffen the forks more, to resist high g-forces in criteriums. Mostly it was Tom showing off, and he had a right to, and did it well. This bike was a 5-speed, and I saw Rick outsprint Greg Lemond to win the Berkeley Criterium in '77 or '78. Greg then was riding Junior gears, and Rick probably had a 53 x 13, but even so, it was impressive, and the last time I saw Lemond race and not win, and I saw tons of wins. 3. My custom was made of Columbus SP tubing and had a fillet stem. The frame was purplish and the stem was green. I stretched my budget by ordering that and the tandem at the same time, in '80. I made time payments on them both and paid them off in '81. The single cost me $500, and the tandem was $1200, and had the most extensive lateral and cross bracing you could ever imagine. It was as though he was looking for ways to increase his work, but it was a beautiful frame. The tubing was straight gauge unbranded CrMo with the same 1.25 downtube and 1.125 top tube and 1 headset that used to be considered oversize, and that Riv still uses today. There was no noticeable wiggle in the frame, even though these dimensions would be considered way too skinny these days (by anybody except JHeine). If we ever do a tandem, we'll likely do the same. 3. When I was ordering my custom, I asked Tom, Should I get short reach or standard? Short was the rage and I didn't want to be left behind. Tom said, Get regular, it's more useful. More clearance. Short is for specialty bikes. Now short is normal, but it's still as limiting as it was then. 4. I could fit 32mm tires, easily. 5. On the tandem, Tom tried to talk me into sidepulls, but I held out for cantilevers. Tom probably didn't brake as much as I did. 6. I put a TA triple on the tandem, 54 x 49 x 32, and used an outer ring f or the middle. If you did this you could bolt the middle and outer ring together, stiffening the rings. It was one of those insider tricks of the day. 7. I ordered my custom mtn frame way too small, but what did I know? I got a 49. Low bb, steeper angles than normal (73 seat 72 head), and with 126mm spacing instead of the std (of the day) 130. He built it at 130. I called him about it, and expected he'd spread it, but he said, I'll have another one to you in a week, and he did. 8. There wasn't QUITE enough tire clearance, and Tom said, Bring it by and I'll fix it. I brought it by, he put the chainstays down on a wooden bench, on the inside of the chainstay he placed a mallet of some kind probably shaped to do this, and whacked it super hard three times with a big hammer, as I watch and listened afraid of the damage and afraid to look. Then he repeated it on the other side. It made a good case for steel tubes. 9. The custom mtn frame I returned with the 130 was used to win one Nat'l Championship, and then another guy rode it to many top finishes. I saw it in the race photos. It was cream frame, blue seat tube panel. Tom was by a few months ago and rode a 62 Hunqapillar with Alba bars in the local hills. He was a strong influence for many years. I don't mean to say I'm beyond that now, because there isn't any beyond Tom Ritchey when it comes to bikes. He and his company are on a different path than we are, but I've always liked Tom and I always look forward to seeing him when he stops by, a couple of times a year by surprise. G -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
The ranks just keep growing! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: LouisvillePatrick flightofthebomba...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 05:41:11 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group I'm 6'4, 280 lb. 96cm PBH 64cm Bomba (maybe should have gotten a 60. When I put on the Small Block 8's, there isn't much room for bailout over the top tube. Absolutely brilliant for fully loaded touring, though.) 67cm Hilsen (should be delivered tomorrow!) I've found that the double top tube is the secret to my success and frame longevity. I've grown to love the look. The stiffness and support improvement is indisputable. I've toured, fully loaded, self-supported, on the Bomba every summer since I got it. I've put close to 90 pounds on it with absolutely no problem. Happy to discuss my touring experience with anyone! Patrick -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Gotta Q-beam, so I gotta pass. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: AmiSingh asd...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 09:07:15 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group So who'se in for a 68 SimpleOne? Can we get 10? On Jan 11, 10:28 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: I think we said if you're riding 64cm and up? Basically where most mfg's ranges stop production. I think our stated goal was to roam the earth on 64-68cm Roadeo's spreading havoc and mayhem wherever possible. I'm sure in no time we'll come up with a wool jersey resembling Hell's Angels colors. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:48 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: The ranks just keep growing! So what is the range for being considered 'tall'? -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
On the cusp, and in the band. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: rob markwardt robmar...@hotmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2011 17:48:18 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group Boy, I feel like a shrimp at 6'. I do have the legs of a six-twoer though so I ride a 64. Rob on the cusp Markwardt On Jan 11, 7:28 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: I think we said if you're riding 64cm and up? Basically where most mfg's ranges stop production. I think our stated goal was to roam the earth on 64-68cm Roadeo's spreading havoc and mayhem wherever possible. I'm sure in no time we'll come up with a wool jersey resembling Hell's Angels colors. On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Seth Vidal skvi...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:48 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: The ranks just keep growing! So what is the range for being considered 'tall'? -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell
My point exactly. But it is interesting to see. FWIW I wouldn't ever use GP's bike for any reference as they, each and every one, are more or less test-mules for trying things out. Hence my giving him a pass on using zip-ties-he wants a quick connect and go kind of set-up. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: JimD rasterd...@comcast.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 08:37:00 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] What Makes the Rivendell I like looking at the 'staff bikes' on the Riv site. Grant's bikes have a fair number of 'things' on em. Mark Abele's bikes tend to be spare. There's no one way. We do and ride what we like and what works. -JimD On Jan 8, 2011, at 1:06 PM Jan 8, 2011, robert zeidler wrote: I agree with it all, what a great bike to make into what you want. The one thing I find quite amazing-this is an observation, not a critique-is, especially on Cyclofiend, the amazing amounts of stuff that people hang on their bikes. It's like farkle city! On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 3:54 PM, JimD rasterd...@comcast.net wrote: Well said Jim. I wish I could find the thing I read from Douglas Brooks where he talks about 'resolved' and 'resourcefull' bikes. A Hampsten Tournesol Rando bike is an example of a resolved bike. Everything is optimized for the function of long distance/unsupported riding. A Rivendell (pick any one) is a premier example of a 'resourceful' bike. Grant designs great riding bikes that are flexibly configurable. They may be aimed at different primary riding domains (Roadeo vs Bombadil) but can be setup across a wide range within the design target domain. Underlying this approach to the hardware is a sensibility for bicycling and bicyclers that is wide ranging - everything but racing. For me this sensibility has enriched the experience of bicycling beyond the bounds of my perspective during my first 20 years of riding. I was riding '10 speed racing bikes' and should go fast, train, be like Eddy. As I 'matured' I found the challenge of going fast and faster was getting hard and harder. I had to succumb to the dreaded triple to climb the hills around here. Once I realized I wasn't racing. I started thinking about other approaches. Having discovered Rivendell I'm riding more and having more fun than ever before. -JimD On Jan 8, 2011, at 11:09 AM Jan 8, 2011, CycloFiend wrote: on 1/7/11 12:06 PM, Kelly Sleeper at tkslee...@gmail.com wrote: (great questions which ended with...) What makes the Rivendell Different.. how does one explain that difference to those that just see a steel antique looking bke? I think there have been a couple of handling or discussion of trail threads where this has popped up before. These are a couple points I've probably made before... Rivendells (and I include all of the designs, not simply custom models) have a similar quality of ride. While a Roadeo is different from a Bombadil, there's an underlying set of design tenets which seems pretty consistent. For me, in my riding conditions, they are superlative. They are stable, predictable, solid handling bikes that generally keep me out of trouble, and then react appropriately when I'm silly enough to get my self into it. If they didn't handle well, nothing else would matter. The handling and ride is a sum of a all parts. It isn't _JUST_ trail, head angle, bb height, chainstay length, angles, and length. It's all of those things. You cannot just change one aspect and have the same bike. The bicycles are a product of those variables, plus the things which Grant has learned in the XX number of years of plotting out frames, testing them and thinking pretty deeply about the results. The bicycle designs have grown to be incredibly versatile. Ten years ago, the longer reach brakes weren't availalble. The clearances which we now enjoy were only possible with canti brakes. Finding a 28mm 700C tire was difficult, let alone a higher quality 30mm+ tire. The limiting factors have been the components, and Grant has always been pushing the envelope in this particular corner of the bicycle world. Add to that his commitment to high quality bags and racks and you end up with a useful and continually variable design. As I've repeated too many times, both my Quickbeam and Hilsen have been errand bikes, road bikes, mountain bikes, race bikes and brevet bikes in the time I've had them. Over the past couple years, I've grown to feel that if a bicycle can't be fendered or adapted, it really is not a bicycle in the true sense. In other words, when people ask what my road bike is, I kind of stare at them blankly. All of this could be done roughly, or quickly, or with a more industrial design tenet, but the
Re: [RBW] Re: New News Post
No we don't... Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bruce fullylug...@yahoo.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 07:33:27 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: New News Post We need to change the topic of this thread. What do you think, Helmets, yes or no? From: Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Sent: Sat, January 8, 2011 9:16:46 AM Subject: [RBW] Re: New News Post On Jan 7, 9:04 pm, PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com wrote: I know this topic is grossly OT, but the idea that carbs, even refined carbs, are somehow bad for you is just egregiously absurd:... and don't forget disease. in any event, nutrition and health is simply too important to allow others (especially those who stand to profit) to be making the calls. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves the riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group Robert: Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? What's the Riv-related content? DC (6'2;37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; 64cm Quickbeam) On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
6'6 tall 230 64cm Atlantis 65cm Redwood 68cm Redwood 67cm AHH 64cm Sam 62cm Hunqa (on the way) And way too many others (non-Riv). Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:25:00 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group While singing short people got no reason ... 6'5 tall 67 cm ahh 64 cm Bombadil 96.5 pbh 225lbs Looking for at least 65 cm single speed Kelly Sent from my iPhone On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves the riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group Robert: Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? What's the Riv-related content? DC (6'2;37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; 64cm Quickbeam) On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group
Oh yeah... 68cm Riv Custom. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Kelly Sleeper tkslee...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 10:25:00 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Cc: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group While singing short people got no reason ... 6'5 tall 67 cm ahh 64 cm Bombadil 96.5 pbh 225lbs Looking for at least 65 cm single speed Kelly Sent from my iPhone On Jan 7, 2011, at 9:55 AM, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: Nothing apart from taking over the world as we know it. OK, OK. This should be discussion about any and everything that involves the riding experience for those who require a bicycle larger than 64cm. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Dave Craig dcr...@prescott.edu Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 07:44:34 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Informal Tall Riders Group Robert: Perhaps you could be more specific. Do you have questions or observations? What are you hoping that us longshanks will share? What's the Riv-related content? DC (6'2;37-inch PBH;ape arms;size 14 feet; 65cm Hilsen;60cm Bombadil; 64cm Quickbeam) On Jan 7, 6:24 am, robert zeidler zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: OK, Have at it!!! Who's first? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Hwy 2 in Montana
I have traveled it's entire length by m/c. Long desolate stretches in the east and real windy. I did see quite a few bicyclists however. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Ray r.sh...@sbcglobal.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 09:53:46 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Hwy 2 in Montana Do any of you good folks know anything about Montana Hwy 2? It runs east/west through northern Montana and into (from?) Dakota. Mainly interested in traffic situations, availability of services. Thanks. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: New News Post
Bravo! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: PATRICK MOORE bertin...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 7 Jan 2011 19:04:08 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: New News Post I know this topic is grossly OT, but the idea that carbs, even refined carbs, are somehow bad for you is just egregiously absurd: tell it to the Chinese, Indians, Native Americans, Italians and other groups whose principal source of food is grains of some sort or another. The Japanese have very long average life, and it isn't because they are scarfing down bacon and cheese. Sit still, quiet, breathe deeply, think peaceful thoughts, cultivate one-ness with the cosmos -- and be patient, patient, patient: this fad too shall pass. Patrick happily and skinnily (at a svelte almost 56, 5'10 in bare feet, 170 lb) eating his home made French bread with olive oil, salt and pepper, who believes that a real culprit of dietary sin is processed foods and who eats very little of them because they are so g-d disgusting! On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Patrick in VT swing4...@gmail.com wrote: On Jan 6, 8:12 pm, Rene Sterental orthie...@gmail.com wrote: The short answer is that carbs create and trigger addiction responses, just like nicotine, alcohol and other drugs. When you are hooked, you crave them for all the reasons explained in the book (High insuline, lack of calories for normal function because most are stored in the fat tissue, etc.) you're starting with the premise of being an addict, or in the case of food, people who have most likely been chronically overweight, unhealthy and/or unfit. carbs, or any other source of calories for that matter, do not pose a problem for people who have a healthy, long- standing relationship with food. just like beer and wine don't pose a problem for one who is control of his or her drinking. I know other authors talk about how to use carbs when excercising, but I'd be willing to bet that if one takes the time to fully change eating paradigms . . .. It seems to me that those who espouse atkins, taubes, et al. are those who chronically struggle with weight, health and fitness. they also tend to be focused on weight loss and not overall health, as evidenced by the diets they embrace. Most of the truly healthy, fit people i know eat/drink what ever they want - but it's mostly vegetables, whole grains, nuts, fruits . ..stuff without nutrition labels. carbs are certainly not forbidden - two of my friends are outstanding bakers and delicious bread and cake is always on the table when we eat together. the handful of serious athletes (those who train, compete to win) I know are all vegetarian/vegan. none of these folks follow a *diet.* I haven't seen any of them gain or lose significant weight for years. the other thing they have in common is that they cook *a lot*, which, for me, is absolutely essential to maintaining a healthy relationship with food. In fact, I'd suggest buying a good cookbook, rather than a *diet* book, for anyone who is serious about repairing their relationship with food and living a healthier lifestyle. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Patrick Moore Albuquerque, NM For professional resumes, contact Patrick Moore, ACRW at resumespecialt...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Short Hunqa vid from RBW
I think, think I say, that may be my bike they are prepping to ship. Sure looks like the same spec, but it could be a common set-up. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:39:24 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Short Hunqa vid from RBW I was up there to check out this bike and observe the videographers. The bike is really beefy with those tires. I've got a photo somewhere... Esteban San Diego, Made it over the snowstorm on the I-5 before it was closed in both directions this afternoon Calif On Jan 2, 8:12 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: And the always appreciated valve stem shot (submit yours herehttp://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell_valve_stems/ )! The 62cm frame makes those 29ers look like 26 tires! I'm gonna' have to think long and hard about a 58cm frame... On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: just a tease...looks pretty nice, perfect for those back road camping tours! ~Mike~ On Jan 2, 6:54 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a 62cm and shown with 2.25 tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAS7IeATqs0 --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Short Hunqa vid from RBW
I asked for one just like in the vid-the one You are Hello? They mentioned something about a custom color-matched stem though, so that may not be the one. I hate the Diag-a-tube, but waddya gonna do? Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Mike mjawn...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 07:14:53 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Short Hunqa vid from RBW On Jan 3, 6:17 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: I think, think I say, that may be my bike they are prepping to ship. Sure looks like the same spec, but it could be a common set-up. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry You are a very lucky man! That bike looks great. I take it that it is a 62? I used to run Albatross bars on my Cross Check and liked them a lot. I may have to put them on my QB at some point. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Short Hunqa vid from RBW
My understanding was it was supposed to come w/ a custom, color-matched 150mm stem, otherwise that looks like what I axed for. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: rperks perks@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:31:19 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Short Hunqa vid from RBW Very nice spec! Assuming it is yours, how long of a reach is on the quill? I have been thinking of setting up my rawland like this, but the cockpit is already on the short side of things. On Jan 3, 6:17 am, zeidler.rob...@gmail.com wrote: I think, think I say, that may be my bike they are prepping to ship. Sure looks like the same spec, but it could be a common set-up. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Esteban proto...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 20:39:24 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Short Hunqa vid from RBW I was up there to check out this bike and observe the videographers. The bike is really beefy with those tires. I've got a photo somewhere... Esteban San Diego, Made it over the snowstorm on the I-5 before it was closed in both directions this afternoon Calif On Jan 2, 8:12 pm, cyclotourist cyclotour...@gmail.com wrote: And the always appreciated valve stem shot (submit yours herehttp://www.flickr.com/groups/rivendell_valve_stems/ )! The 62cm frame makes those 29ers look like 26 tires! I'm gonna' have to think long and hard about a 58cm frame... On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Michael_S mikeybi...@rocketmail.com wrote: just a tease...looks pretty nice, perfect for those back road camping tours! ~Mike~ On Jan 2, 6:54 pm, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a 62cm and shown with 2.25 tires. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAS7IeATqs0 --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2Bunsubscrib e...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Cheers, David Redlands, CA *...in terms of recreational cycling there are many riders who would probably benefit more from improving their taste than from improving their performance.* - RTMS -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2011:
Hey, all those goal-setting workshops Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: David Faller dfal...@charter.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 09:43:01 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [RBW] Re: Goals for 2011: I like this. It sounds achievable. On 12/31/2010 8:46 AM, robert zeidler wrote: Even simpler for me: 1. Not get dead. 2. Have fun whenever possible. On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Mike mjawn...@gmail.com mailto:mjawn...@gmail.com wrote: Angus, that's a pretty good list of goals and accomplished items. For myself, I feel I rode a tad less this year but still had a ton of fun, hit some new roads and did a ton of riding on platform pedals and in regular clothes which was really rewarding. My main riding goal for the past 3 yrs has been wrapped up in randonneuring. My goals for next year: 1. Finish another super randonneur series and finish each brevet a little faster. 2. A sub-14hr 300k. 3. Do either a 1000k and/or Fleche. 4. More S36Os. 5. At least one multi-day bike tour. 6. Continue to learn how to work on my bike. 7. Read more. My main winter goal was to sell my Rambouillet which isn't much of a goal but it's tough for me to part with stuff and even tougher to actually deal with selling stuff. I have a bunch of bike parts I need to sort through and sell. I also need to figure out what I'm gonna replace the Rambouillet with. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute
My work here is finished! Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:23:06 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute OH, and apologies for going OT... please, no more drum questions on this thread... (but for the record I USE ZIP TIES FOR THE CABLE ROUTING!!!) On Dec 30, 6:21 pm, Montclair BobbyB montclairbob...@gmail.com wrote: I don't know; I haven't flatted yet (knock wood). But as long as I have a 15mm wrench and a flat-bladed screwdriver, the rest is minor. On the front, you gently disconnect the dyno wire (screwdriver helps), compress the (drum) brake caliper and pop the cable off (again screwdriver can help pry off a tightly fitting cable); on the rear, same for the brake cable, and disconnecting the gear cable is a cinch. The non-turn washers can sometimes be stubborn, but the screwdriver (aka the convincer) takes care of that. I'll take a wild guess that it may add an additional minute or two to each wheel when removing, and the same when connecting. Well worth the extra effort, though. Peace, BB On Dec 30, 4:41 pm, William Pustow bpus...@aol.com wrote: How long does it take you to fix a flat? On Dec 30, 2010, at 10:52 AM, Montclair BobbyB wrote: Guilty as charged, you honor... On Dec 30, 10:43 am, Allingham II, Thomas J thomas.alling...@skadden.com wrote: Or, of course, drums, Bobby! -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Montclair BobbyB Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 10:29 AM To: RBW Owners Bunch Subject: [RBW] Re: zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute No worry... one can never have too many zipties... On Dec 29, 4:00 pm, Marc Nolte mno...@shaw.ca wrote: Lovely idea, I even stopped to pick up some more zipties, before it occurred to me that I needed disk brakes to make it work... Marc - Original Message - From: Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com Date: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 7:14 pm Subject: [RBW] zipties in snow / was: Seattle Snow Commute To: RBW Owners Bunch rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Forgive me for digging up this old thread, but I just stumbled across this article on Gizmodo, and it feels like I should have read it here at RBW, but searching on snow, Seattle, zip ties (even re-read this threadhttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners- bunch/browse_thread/thread/bd53e1c4788e10a6#),and I can't find it here yet. http://www.dutchbikeco.com/_blog/Dutch_Bike_Co_Weblog/post/Seattle_Sn... Really, I just can't find it here on RBW-OB, it seems like it should be... I thought I'd read something about ice biking, snowpocalypse, etc., here recently (maybe it was over on BL instead) Anywho, thought it was an interesting use of zipties for a bike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com.to unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- Marc Nolte phone: +33.(0)6.34.54.61.16 email: m...@mbn.ca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. --- --- To ensure compliance with Treasury Department regulations, we advise you that, unless otherwise expressly indicated, any federal tax advice contained in this message was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (i) avoiding tax-related penalties under the Internal Revenue Code or applicable state or local tax law provisions or (ii) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matters addressed herein. This email (and any attachments thereto) is intended only for use by the addressee(s) named herein and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you are hereby notified that any dissemination,
Re: [RBW] Re: Shimmy, according to BQ NRC
I did in fact, mean 26 frame w/ 27 wheels. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Bill M. bmenn...@comcast.net Sender: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 22:22:52 To: RBW Owners Bunchrbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Reply-To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject: [RBW] Re: Shimmy, according to BQ NRC You sure he didn't mean a 26 frame size (not wheel size)? On Dec 12, 11:42 am, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Sun, 2010-12-12 at 14:40 -0500, Robert Zeidler wrote: I concur with your opinion on the Paramount. I, too, have a few of the 26 bikes, all 531 , and find they are rock steady. Is this a 27 wheel thing maybe? I do not recall a 1972 Paramount coming with 26 wheels. FWIW, mine had 27. The other option was tubulars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
