Re: [RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions

2013-03-01 Thread Earl Grey
I have 3 of the Hebie 605s. I have a dual Pletscher, and it's not being 
used. The Hebies are far superior in terms of stability (and probably twice 
as heavy). No problem clearing 52mm fenders. All 3 bikes have the option of 
mounting 2 child seats, so stability is paramount. Note that the Hebies 
come in 3 lengths, are not adjustable, and the guidelines for choosing the 
right size are super conservative. I ended up with one that is way too long 
by using the info on the Hebie website. Better to measure in person if you 
can...

Gernot
Thailand

On Friday, March 1, 2013 4:24:29 AM UTC+7, Leslie wrote:

 On my Bomba, I had NeoMotos on it when I first tried to mount the 
 kickstand;  same problem, took the kickstand back off.

 Thing was, I wasn't planning on permanently running Neos, so once I 
 switched to the Contis, I didn't have a problem (but mine are the 42s, not 
 the 54s).




 On Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:16:20 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote:

 Going to get out the file this weekend and see if I can adjust the fit 
 of the Pletscher in the offending area. That is, in fact, the RBW 
 suggestion. 

 I'll check out the VO as well. As the Bombadil has a kickstand plate I am 
 pretty locked as far how the stand sits in relation to the bike.

 Dan


 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Shoji Takahashi 
 shoji.t...@gmail.comwrote:

 I have the VO Copenhagen Dual Leg Kickstand, too. I think the length 
 adjustment is nice. I'm not as enthusiastic with the build compared to the 
 Pletscher. In the up position, the upper leg wobbles a bit. Not anything 
 bad or dangerous, but I don't see the same thing on my Pletscher.

 The plastic feet are wide. Good for stability, but it could cause a 
 problem in the up position. I tried it on a ss bike: too much one way, and 
 the feet were into the spokes; too much the other way and they were into 
 the pedal/foot.  

 For wheel flop, I take my ankle band and wrap it around the tire and 
 downtube. I used to have an extra bungie cord on my basket, but that 
 disappeared.

  

 On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:55:22 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

  I have this one on my Atlantis with the 50mm Marathon Supremes, and 
 it clears those pretty fat tires just fine. 
 http://store.velo-orange.com/**index.php/accessories/**
 chainguards-stay-protectors-**kickstands/vo-retractable-**
 dual-leg-kickstand.htmlhttp://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/chainguards-stay-protectors-kickstands/vo-retractable-dual-leg-kickstand.html
   I like the ability to adjust the length of the kickstand legs when you 
 change tires, too.  Works very well.  Whether the rear or front is lifted 
 with the stand down depends on where the load is, though; I try to adjust 
 the length of the legs so that both tires are as close to the ground as 
 possible.

  

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 googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Dan McNamara

 *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:28 PM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com

 *Subject:* [RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions

  

 I just swapped the tires on my 52 Bombadil 2TT from Fatty Rumpkins to 
 the 54 (actually measure 48) Conti Tour Guards and, of course, the 
 Pletscher 2-legged kickstand won't clear the rear tire. By not clear I 
 mean 
 the stand rubs against the tire when it is in the up position. 
  
 Any thoughts on other 2-legged stands that might clear a wide-ish tire? 
 I would prefer that the stand raised the rear of the bike rather than the 
 front to avoid the front wheel flopping around when I am loading.
  
 So far there are two options from VO, a couple from Hebie and at least 
 one from Crow. Any user feedback on these and ideas on others?
  
 Thanks in advance
  
 Dan
  
 -Marin
  
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[RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions

2013-02-28 Thread Dan McNamara
I just swapped the tires on my 52 Bombadil 2TT from Fatty Rumpkins to the
54 (actually measure 48) Conti Tour Guards and, of course, the Pletscher
2-legged kickstand won't clear the rear tire. By not clear I mean the stand
rubs against the tire when it is in the up position.

Any thoughts on other 2-legged stands that might clear a wide-ish tire? I
would prefer that the stand raised the rear of the bike rather than the
front to avoid the front wheel flopping around when I am loading.

So far there are two options from VO, a couple from Hebie and at least one
from Crow. Any user feedback on these and ideas on others?

Thanks in advance

Dan

-Marin

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RE: [RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions

2013-02-28 Thread Allingham II, Thomas J
I have this one on my Atlantis with the 50mm Marathon Supremes, and it clears 
those pretty fat tires just fine. 
http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/chainguards-stay-protectors-kickstands/vo-retractable-dual-leg-kickstand.html
   I like the ability to adjust the length of the kickstand legs when you 
change tires, too.  Works very well.  Whether the rear or front is lifted with 
the stand down depends on where the load is, though; I try to adjust the length 
of the legs so that both tires are as close to the ground as possible.

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To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions

I just swapped the tires on my 52 Bombadil 2TT from Fatty Rumpkins to the 54 
(actually measure 48) Conti Tour Guards and, of course, the Pletscher 2-legged 
kickstand won't clear the rear tire. By not clear I mean the stand rubs against 
the tire when it is in the up position.
Any thoughts on other 2-legged stands that might clear a wide-ish tire? I would 
prefer that the stand raised the rear of the bike rather than the front to 
avoid the front wheel flopping around when I am loading.
So far there are two options from VO, a couple from Hebie and at least one from 
Crow. Any user feedback on these and ideas on others?
Thanks in advance
Dan
-Marin
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Re: [RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions

2013-02-28 Thread Shoji Takahashi
I have the VO Copenhagen Dual Leg Kickstand, too. I think the length 
adjustment is nice. I'm not as enthusiastic with the build compared to the 
Pletscher. In the up position, the upper leg wobbles a bit. Not anything 
bad or dangerous, but I don't see the same thing on my Pletscher.

The plastic feet are wide. Good for stability, but it could cause a problem 
in the up position. I tried it on a ss bike: too much one way, and the feet 
were into the spokes; too much the other way and they were into the 
pedal/foot.  

For wheel flop, I take my ankle band and wrap it around the tire and 
downtube. I used to have an extra bungie cord on my basket, but that 
disappeared.

 

On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:55:22 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

  I have this one on my Atlantis with the 50mm Marathon Supremes, and it 
 clears those pretty fat tires just fine. 
 http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/chainguards-stay-protectors-kickstands/vo-retractable-dual-leg-kickstand.html
   I like the ability to adjust the length of the kickstand legs when you 
 change tires, too.  Works very well.  Whether the rear or front is lifted 
 with the stand down depends on where the load is, though; I try to adjust 
 the length of the legs so that both tires are as close to the ground as 
 possible.

  

 *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript: [mailto:
 rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:] *On Behalf Of *Dan McNamara
 *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:28 PM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:
 *Subject:* [RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions

  

 I just swapped the tires on my 52 Bombadil 2TT from Fatty Rumpkins to the 
 54 (actually measure 48) Conti Tour Guards and, of course, the Pletscher 
 2-legged kickstand won't clear the rear tire. By not clear I mean the stand 
 rubs against the tire when it is in the up position. 
  
 Any thoughts on other 2-legged stands that might clear a wide-ish tire? I 
 would prefer that the stand raised the rear of the bike rather than the 
 front to avoid the front wheel flopping around when I am loading.
  
 So far there are two options from VO, a couple from Hebie and at least one 
 from Crow. Any user feedback on these and ideas on others?
  
 Thanks in advance
  
 Dan
  
 -Marin
  
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Re: [RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions

2013-02-28 Thread Dan McNamara
Going to get out the file this weekend and see if I can adjust the fit of
the Pletscher in the offending area. That is, in fact, the RBW suggestion.

I'll check out the VO as well. As the Bombadil has a kickstand plate I am
pretty locked as far how the stand sits in relation to the bike.

Dan


On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Shoji Takahashi shoji.takaha...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I have the VO Copenhagen Dual Leg Kickstand, too. I think the length
 adjustment is nice. I'm not as enthusiastic with the build compared to the
 Pletscher. In the up position, the upper leg wobbles a bit. Not anything
 bad or dangerous, but I don't see the same thing on my Pletscher.

 The plastic feet are wide. Good for stability, but it could cause a
 problem in the up position. I tried it on a ss bike: too much one way, and
 the feet were into the spokes; too much the other way and they were into
 the pedal/foot.

 For wheel flop, I take my ankle band and wrap it around the tire and
 downtube. I used to have an extra bungie cord on my basket, but that
 disappeared.



 On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:55:22 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

  I have this one on my Atlantis with the 50mm Marathon Supremes, and it
 clears those pretty fat tires just fine. http://store.velo-orange.com/**
 index.php/accessories/**chainguards-stay-protectors-**
 kickstands/vo-retractable-**dual-leg-kickstand.htmlhttp://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/chainguards-stay-protectors-kickstands/vo-retractable-dual-leg-kickstand.html
   I like the ability to adjust the length of the kickstand legs when you
 change tires, too.  Works very well.  Whether the rear or front is lifted
 with the stand down depends on where the load is, though; I try to adjust
 the length of the legs so that both tires are as close to the ground as
 possible.



 *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:rbw-owne...@**
 googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Dan McNamara

 *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:28 PM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com

 *Subject:* [RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions



 I just swapped the tires on my 52 Bombadil 2TT from Fatty Rumpkins to the
 54 (actually measure 48) Conti Tour Guards and, of course, the Pletscher
 2-legged kickstand won't clear the rear tire. By not clear I mean the stand
 rubs against the tire when it is in the up position.

 Any thoughts on other 2-legged stands that might clear a wide-ish tire? I
 would prefer that the stand raised the rear of the bike rather than the
 front to avoid the front wheel flopping around when I am loading.

 So far there are two options from VO, a couple from Hebie and at least
 one from Crow. Any user feedback on these and ideas on others?

 Thanks in advance

 Dan

 -Marin

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Re: [RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions

2013-02-28 Thread Leslie
On my Bomba, I had NeoMotos on it when I first tried to mount the 
kickstand;  same problem, took the kickstand back off.

Thing was, I wasn't planning on permanently running Neos, so once I 
switched to the Contis, I didn't have a problem (but mine are the 42s, not 
the 54s).




On Thursday, February 28, 2013 3:16:20 PM UTC-5, danmc wrote:

 Going to get out the file this weekend and see if I can adjust the fit 
 of the Pletscher in the offending area. That is, in fact, the RBW 
 suggestion. 

 I'll check out the VO as well. As the Bombadil has a kickstand plate I am 
 pretty locked as far how the stand sits in relation to the bike.

 Dan


 On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Shoji Takahashi 
 shoji.t...@gmail.comjavascript:
  wrote:

 I have the VO Copenhagen Dual Leg Kickstand, too. I think the length 
 adjustment is nice. I'm not as enthusiastic with the build compared to the 
 Pletscher. In the up position, the upper leg wobbles a bit. Not anything 
 bad or dangerous, but I don't see the same thing on my Pletscher.

 The plastic feet are wide. Good for stability, but it could cause a 
 problem in the up position. I tried it on a ss bike: too much one way, and 
 the feet were into the spokes; too much the other way and they were into 
 the pedal/foot.  

 For wheel flop, I take my ankle band and wrap it around the tire and 
 downtube. I used to have an extra bungie cord on my basket, but that 
 disappeared.

  

 On Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:55:22 PM UTC-5, Pudge wrote:

  I have this one on my Atlantis with the 50mm Marathon Supremes, and it 
 clears those pretty fat tires just fine. http://store.velo-orange.com/**
 index.php/accessories/**chainguards-stay-protectors-**
 kickstands/vo-retractable-**dual-leg-kickstand.htmlhttp://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/chainguards-stay-protectors-kickstands/vo-retractable-dual-leg-kickstand.html
   I like the ability to adjust the length of the kickstand legs when you 
 change tires, too.  Works very well.  Whether the rear or front is lifted 
 with the stand down depends on where the load is, though; I try to adjust 
 the length of the legs so that both tires are as close to the ground as 
 possible.

  

 *From:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com [mailto:rbw-owne...@**
 googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Dan McNamara

 *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2013 1:28 PM
 *To:* rbw-owne...@googlegroups.**com

 *Subject:* [RBW] 2-legged kickstand options/opinions

  

 I just swapped the tires on my 52 Bombadil 2TT from Fatty Rumpkins to 
 the 54 (actually measure 48) Conti Tour Guards and, of course, the 
 Pletscher 2-legged kickstand won't clear the rear tire. By not clear I mean 
 the stand rubs against the tire when it is in the up position. 
  
 Any thoughts on other 2-legged stands that might clear a wide-ish tire? 
 I would prefer that the stand raised the rear of the bike rather than the 
 front to avoid the front wheel flopping around when I am loading.
  
 So far there are two options from VO, a couple from Hebie and at least 
 one from Crow. Any user feedback on these and ideas on others?
  
 Thanks in advance
  
 Dan
  
 -Marin
  
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