Re: [RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Josh (BertoBerg)]

Hello All-

I am just coming off of 1200 miles with the Snoqualmie Pass Extralight 
tires. 

Goods:
Ride was great, 
Speed was great
Weight was great
Handled all of the gravel I could throw at it

Bads:
Had to put extra sealant in them several times just to get them to hold 
air. I used the RH recommended Panaracer sealant
If you had to deflate the tire for any reason they wouldn't seal again 
until you added more sealant.
Super susceptible to glass punctures.
After getting three or four punctures in the last few hundred miles I 
called it quits.
Having to clean sealant off my legs, back, and bike.
Price (Obviously)
_

I switched over to Continental Terra Speed 40mm tires. They are 
significantly heavier and way less plush but they hold air. Once you get 
them up to speed they roll pretty fast though.

Josh
Bainbridge Island, WA

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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Adam]

Thanks, I'll see how the Terra Speeds compare. I agree about price, it's 
just too much for something expendable.

I'm not looking for mud tires at all, just thought I'd throw my overall 
take on the Herse tires. I'm skeptical that the Terra Speed.onobs do much 
of anything, but we'll see.

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 9:16:16 AM UTC-5 pi...@gmail.com wrote:

> I've been running the Terraspeed 40mm (measuring 38mm on my A23 rims). I 
> have no stomach for the prices Rene Herse charges for their tires, but I 
> don't think the Terra Speed are going to satisfy you if you're riding in 
> mud. My experience with the Terraspeed is that in mud, you're going to spin 
> the tires for about half a pedal stroke before the tire sinks enough into 
> the mud to bite. It's a bit disconcerting, but here in California mud 
> doesn't happen often and I want the lightest possible tire because every 
> ride here starts with a 2000' climb.
>
> On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 5:37:14 AM UTC-7 Adam wrote:
>
>>  My tires are around 40-41mm on Dyads (19mm, I think).
>>
>> Great feel, fast, horrible in mud, great in everything else, maybe a 
>> little too fragile for what they enable me to ride.
>>
>> I'm going to try the Terra Speed see how it goes. The price on those is 
>> very good at the moment, and I'd feel OK with those under 52mm fenders, I 
>> think.
>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:41:08 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Eliot,
>>>
>>> 'I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.'
>>>
>>> Just wondering what has been frustrating about your experience with the 
>>> Snoqualmies?
>>>
>>> Cheers, John
>>>
>>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I’m curious to hear what others say. Nothing will be AS plush but you 
 should be able to find a trade off for slightly more grip in exchange for 
 slightly worse road feel.

 I always liked the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 650b but I don’t know how 
 they translate to 700c.

 I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.

 Other tires I considered were the Specialized Pathfinder Pro and 
 Schwalbe G-One RS. 

 On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 6:42 PM Adam  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Too many holes in the tread of my snoqualmie pass ELs, time to move 
> them on.
>
> Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the 
> Hillborne?
>
> I see endless variations of "gravel" tires in this size range. Anyone 
> find anything that compares well to the Rene Herse stuff? I found gravel 
> kings noticeably slower and less plush. I'm thinking about trying the 
> Terra 
> Speeds that are on sale a few places.
>
> Other ideas? I'm inclined towards slightly knobby, but have been doing 
> OK with the file tread.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Piaw Na]

I've been running the Terraspeed 40mm (measuring 38mm on my A23 rims). I 
have no stomach for the prices Rene Herse charges for their tires, but I 
don't think the Terra Speed are going to satisfy you if you're riding in 
mud. My experience with the Terraspeed is that in mud, you're going to spin 
the tires for about half a pedal stroke before the tire sinks enough into 
the mud to bite. It's a bit disconcerting, but here in California mud 
doesn't happen often and I want the lightest possible tire because every 
ride here starts with a 2000' climb.

On Friday, August 18, 2023 at 5:37:14 AM UTC-7 Adam wrote:

>  My tires are around 40-41mm on Dyads (19mm, I think).
>
> Great feel, fast, horrible in mud, great in everything else, maybe a 
> little too fragile for what they enable me to ride.
>
> I'm going to try the Terra Speed see how it goes. The price on those is 
> very good at the moment, and I'd feel OK with those under 52mm fenders, I 
> think.
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:41:08 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:
>
>> Hello Eliot,
>>
>> 'I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.'
>>
>> Just wondering what has been frustrating about your experience with the 
>> Snoqualmies?
>>
>> Cheers, John
>>
>> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m curious to hear what others say. Nothing will be AS plush but you 
>>> should be able to find a trade off for slightly more grip in exchange for 
>>> slightly worse road feel.
>>>
>>> I always liked the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 650b but I don’t know how 
>>> they translate to 700c.
>>>
>>> I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.
>>>
>>> Other tires I considered were the Specialized Pathfinder Pro and 
>>> Schwalbe G-One RS. 
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 6:42 PM Adam  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Too many holes in the tread of my snoqualmie pass ELs, time to move 
 them on.

 Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the 
 Hillborne?

 I see endless variations of "gravel" tires in this size range. Anyone 
 find anything that compares well to the Rene Herse stuff? I found gravel 
 kings noticeably slower and less plush. I'm thinking about trying the 
 Terra 
 Speeds that are on sale a few places.

 Other ideas? I'm inclined towards slightly knobby, but have been doing 
 OK with the file tread.

 Thanks,

 Adam


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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Adam]

 My tires are around 40-41mm on Dyads (19mm, I think).

Great feel, fast, horrible in mud, great in everything else, maybe a little 
too fragile for what they enable me to ride.

I'm going to try the Terra Speed see how it goes. The price on those is 
very good at the moment, and I'd feel OK with those under 52mm fenders, I 
think.
On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 10:41:08 PM UTC-5 John Rinker wrote:

> Hello Eliot,
>
> 'I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.'
>
> Just wondering what has been frustrating about your experience with the 
> Snoqualmies?
>
> Cheers, John
>
> On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> I’m curious to hear what others say. Nothing will be AS plush but you 
>> should be able to find a trade off for slightly more grip in exchange for 
>> slightly worse road feel.
>>
>> I always liked the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 650b but I don’t know how they 
>> translate to 700c.
>>
>> I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.
>>
>> Other tires I considered were the Specialized Pathfinder Pro and Schwalbe 
>> G-One RS. 
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 6:42 PM Adam  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Too many holes in the tread of my snoqualmie pass ELs, time to move them 
>>> on.
>>>
>>> Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the Hillborne?
>>>
>>> I see endless variations of "gravel" tires in this size range. Anyone 
>>> find anything that compares well to the Rene Herse stuff? I found gravel 
>>> kings noticeably slower and less plush. I'm thinking about trying the Terra 
>>> Speeds that are on sale a few places.
>>>
>>> Other ideas? I'm inclined towards slightly knobby, but have been doing 
>>> OK with the file tread.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[John Rinker]

Hello Eliot,

'I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.'

Just wondering what has been frustrating about your experience with the 
Snoqualmies?

Cheers, John

On Thursday, August 17, 2023 at 7:03:28 PM UTC-7 eliot...@gmail.com wrote:

> I’m curious to hear what others say. Nothing will be AS plush but you 
> should be able to find a trade off for slightly more grip in exchange for 
> slightly worse road feel.
>
> I always liked the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 650b but I don’t know how they 
> translate to 700c.
>
> I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.
>
> Other tires I considered were the Specialized Pathfinder Pro and Schwalbe 
> G-One RS. 
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 6:42 PM Adam  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Too many holes in the tread of my snoqualmie pass ELs, time to move them 
>> on.
>>
>> Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the Hillborne?
>>
>> I see endless variations of "gravel" tires in this size range. Anyone 
>> find anything that compares well to the Rene Herse stuff? I found gravel 
>> kings noticeably slower and less plush. I'm thinking about trying the Terra 
>> Speeds that are on sale a few places.
>>
>> Other ideas? I'm inclined towards slightly knobby, but have been doing OK 
>> with the file tread.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Patrick Moore]

What is the actual width of well used Snoqualmie Passes? (And on what width
rim?)

I considered these as narrower alternatives to the beautifully rolling but
wallowy 60 MM Big Ones but found a few remaining 48 mm (50-51 mm actual on
35 mm OW rims) 360 gram Soma Supple Vitesse SL instead.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 8:03 PM Eliot Balogh  wrote:

> I’m curious to hear what others say. Nothing will be AS plush but you
> should be able to find a trade off for slightly more grip in exchange for
> slightly worse road feel.
>
> I always liked the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 650b but I don’t know how they
> translate to 700c.
>
> I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.
>
> Other tires I considered were the Specialized Pathfinder Pro and Schwalbe
> G-One RS.
>
> On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 6:42 PM Adam  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Too many holes in the tread of my snoqualmie pass ELs, time to move them
>> on.
>>
>> Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the Hillborne?
>>
>> I see endless variations of "gravel" tires in this size range. Anyone
>> find anything that compares well to the Rene Herse stuff? I found gravel
>> kings noticeably slower and less plush. I'm thinking about trying the Terra
>> Speeds that are on sale a few places.
>>
>> Other ideas? I'm inclined towards slightly knobby, but have been doing OK
>> with the file tread.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Adam
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Eliot Balogh]

I’m curious to hear what others say. Nothing will be AS plush but you
should be able to find a trade off for slightly more grip in exchange for
slightly worse road feel.

I always liked the Vittoria Terreno Dry in 650b but I don’t know how they
translate to 700c.

I’m just starting my own frustrating but blissful journey with RH SP.

Other tires I considered were the Specialized Pathfinder Pro and Schwalbe
G-One RS.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2023 at 6:42 PM Adam  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Too many holes in the tread of my snoqualmie pass ELs, time to move them
> on.
>
> Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the Hillborne?
>
> I see endless variations of "gravel" tires in this size range. Anyone find
> anything that compares well to the Rene Herse stuff? I found gravel kings
> noticeably slower and less plush. I'm thinking about trying the Terra
> Speeds that are on sale a few places.
>
> Other ideas? I'm inclined towards slightly knobby, but have been doing OK
> with the file tread.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Adam
>
>
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[RBW] Alternatives to Snoqualmie Pass?

[Adam]

Hi all,

Too many holes in the tread of my snoqualmie pass ELs, time to move them on.

Asking the timeless question: which tires should I buy for the Hillborne?

I see endless variations of "gravel" tires in this size range. Anyone find 
anything that compares well to the Rene Herse stuff? I found gravel kings 
noticeably slower and less plush. I'm thinking about trying the Terra 
Speeds that are on sale a few places.

Other ideas? I'm inclined towards slightly knobby, but have been doing OK 
with the file tread.

Thanks,

Adam

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