Re: [RBW] Flyer vs. B67

2022-08-30 Thread Richard Rose 
I definitely have not. In fact, I’ve not experienced any of the reported 
problems with the B67.

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> On Aug 30, 2022, at 1:02 AM, schralp  wrote:
> 
> Thanks. Do you notice the B67 impacting hamstrings given the width?
> 
>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 10:05:19 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:
>> I have both seats. I prefer the B67 for bolt upright where I’m more back on 
>> my butt,  and the Flyer goes on my mountain bikes/more lean-over bikes. 
>> Flyer is narrower by quite a bit. It’s a B17 with springs. 
>> 
 On Aug 29, 2022, at 10:00, schralp  wrote:
 
>>> Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime 
>>> olive platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with 
>>> albatross bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks 
>>> professional from the 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright 
>>> position. I’m thinking Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this esteemed 
>>> group and, how does one avoid annoying squeaks with those spring saddles. 
>>> My riding is essentially road and hard packed dry trails in so. Cal. Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Flyer vs. B67

2022-08-29 Thread schralp 
Thanks for the tip on the nose. I like the idea of bringing wrenches along 
on a ride to tweak until right…

On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 12:07:51 PM UTC-7 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> I cannot comment on the flyer. However, for my very upright position my 
> B67 is really perfect. Since getting it I no longer need or use padded 
> shorts. I have cycled probably 1,500 miles with it in total comfort. I’ve 
> gone 4 hours practically non stop & did a 6 day bikecamping adventure on 
> it. Zero problems. Perhaps I got lucky but the squeaks are very minimal. 
> I’ve not even tried to eliminate them - they are that minor. I was gifted a 
> lovely honey brown B17 that I’ve not even tried as I do not want to mess 
> with perfection. The B67 is a really comfortable saddle. It does take some 
> tweaking especially regarding how far up the nose should point. I took my 
> wrenches with me for the first 5 or six rides making minor adjustments. It 
> is so good now I am afraid to touch it. Please note; some folks report 
> issues when leaning forward on a B67. I have had no such issues moving from 
> being very upright (Bosco bar) at the grips to grabbing the much lower & 
> further away flats on the bar. In truth, I do not stay in that position 
> very long.:) But it is fine while down there.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 29, 2022, at 1:00 PM, schralp  wrote:
>
> Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime 
> olive platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with 
> albatross bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks 
> professional from the 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright 
> position. I’m thinking Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this esteemed 
> group and, how does one avoid annoying squeaks with those spring saddles. 
> My riding is essentially road and hard packed dry trails in so. Cal. 
> Thanks! 
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Re: [RBW] Flyer vs. B67

2022-08-29 Thread schralp 
Thanks. Do you notice the B67 impacting hamstrings given the width?

On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 10:05:19 AM UTC-7 Lucky wrote:

> I have both seats. I prefer the B67 for bolt upright where I’m more back 
> on my butt,  and the Flyer goes on my mountain bikes/more lean-over bikes. 
> Flyer is narrower by quite a bit. It’s a B17 with springs. 
>
> On Aug 29, 2022, at 10:00, schralp  wrote:
>
> Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime 
> olive platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with 
> albatross bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks 
> professional from the 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright 
> position. I’m thinking Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this esteemed 
> group and, how does one avoid annoying squeaks with those spring saddles. 
> My riding is essentially road and hard packed dry trails in so. Cal. 
> Thanks! 
>
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Re: [RBW] Flyer vs. B67

2022-08-29 Thread schralp 
Thanks, maybe something to try right off the bat…

On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 11:08:01 AM UTC-7 J J wrote:

> About the squeaks in a B67: I came to accept the squeaks in my first B67, 
> but it was more of necessity and resignation than of true appreciation. A 
> few months ago I had to get a new B67 because the tension bolt snapped on 
> the old one as I tried to tighten it (~10 years old) and I did not have 
> time or inclination to find a new bolt and deal with repairing it. I needed 
> to get back on the bike asap. 
>
> Sure enough, the new one squeaked in the same way. I decided to spray some 
> lithium-based lubricant (it was what I had handy) on all the metal parts 
> around the tension bolt and the springs, anywhere there could be movement. 
> The squeaking disappeared. It feels pleasantly weird to pedal along in 
> almost complete silence — little noise emanates from the bike itself other 
> than the sound of tires on pavement, gravel, or dirt.  
>
> As an aside, the new B67 felt exactly like the old one to my sit parts. In 
> other words, I realized that the notion of breaking in a Brooks leather 
> saddle is meaningless for me. There was no appreciable difference in feel 
> between a brand new one and the one I had ridden over thousands of miles 
> for a decade. 
>
> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:05:19 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:
>
>> I have both seats. I prefer the B67 for bolt upright where I’m more back 
>> on my butt,  and the Flyer goes on my mountain bikes/more lean-over bikes. 
>> Flyer is narrower by quite a bit. It’s a B17 with springs. 
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2022, at 10:00, schralp  wrote:
>>
>> Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime 
>> olive platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with 
>> albatross bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks 
>> professional from the 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright 
>> position. I’m thinking Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this esteemed 
>> group and, how does one avoid annoying squeaks with those spring saddles. 
>> My riding is essentially road and hard packed dry trails in so. Cal. 
>> Thanks! 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Flyer vs. B67

2022-08-29 Thread Richard Rose 
Yes! Mine required no break in period.

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> On Aug 29, 2022, at 2:08 PM, J J  wrote:
> 
> About the squeaks in a B67: I came to accept the squeaks in my first B67, 
> but it was more of necessity and resignation than of true appreciation. A few 
> months ago I had to get a new B67 because the tension bolt snapped on the old 
> one as I tried to tighten it (~10 years old) and I did not have time or 
> inclination to find a new bolt and deal with repairing it. I needed to get 
> back on the bike asap. 
> 
> Sure enough, the new one squeaked in the same way. I decided to spray some 
> lithium-based lubricant (it was what I had handy) on all the metal parts 
> around the tension bolt and the springs, anywhere there could be movement. 
> The squeaking disappeared. It feels pleasantly weird to pedal along in almost 
> complete silence — little noise emanates from the bike itself other than the 
> sound of tires on pavement, gravel, or dirt.  
> 
> As an aside, the new B67 felt exactly like the old one to my sit parts. In 
> other words, I realized that the notion of breaking in a Brooks leather 
> saddle is meaningless for me. There was no appreciable difference in feel 
> between a brand new one and the one I had ridden over thousands of miles for 
> a decade. 
> 
>> On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:05:19 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:
>> I have both seats. I prefer the B67 for bolt upright where I’m more back on 
>> my butt,  and the Flyer goes on my mountain bikes/more lean-over bikes. 
>> Flyer is narrower by quite a bit. It’s a B17 with springs. 
>> 
 On Aug 29, 2022, at 10:00, schralp  wrote:
 
>>> Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime 
>>> olive platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with 
>>> albatross bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks 
>>> professional from the 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright 
>>> position. I’m thinking Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this esteemed 
>>> group and, how does one avoid annoying squeaks with those spring saddles. 
>>> My riding is essentially road and hard packed dry trails in so. Cal. Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Flyer vs. B67

2022-08-29 Thread Richard Rose 
I cannot comment on the flyer. However, for my very upright position my B67 is 
really perfect. Since getting it I no longer need or use padded shorts. I have 
cycled probably 1,500 miles with it in total comfort. I’ve gone 4 hours 
practically non stop & did a 6 day bikecamping adventure on it. Zero problems. 
Perhaps I got lucky but the squeaks are very minimal. I’ve not even tried to 
eliminate them - they are that minor. I was gifted a lovely honey brown B17 
that I’ve not even tried as I do not want to mess with perfection. The B67 is a 
really comfortable saddle. It does take some tweaking especially regarding how 
far up the nose should point. I took my wrenches with me for the first 5 or six 
rides making minor adjustments. It is so good now I am afraid to touch it. 
Please note; some folks report issues when leaning forward on a B67. I have had 
no such issues moving from being very upright (Bosco bar) at the grips to 
grabbing the much lower & further away flats on the bar. In truth, I do not 
stay in that position very long.:) But it is fine while down there.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 29, 2022, at 1:00 PM, schralp  wrote:
> 
> Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime olive 
> platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with albatross 
> bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks professional from the 
> 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright position. I’m thinking 
> Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this esteemed group and, how does one 
> avoid annoying squeaks with those spring saddles. My riding is essentially 
> road and hard packed dry trails in so. Cal. Thanks!
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Re: [RBW] Flyer vs. B67

2022-08-29 Thread J J 
About the squeaks in a B67: I came to accept the squeaks in my first B67, 
but it was more of necessity and resignation than of true appreciation. A 
few months ago I had to get a new B67 because the tension bolt snapped on 
the old one as I tried to tighten it (~10 years old) and I did not have 
time or inclination to find a new bolt and deal with repairing it. I needed 
to get back on the bike asap. 

Sure enough, the new one squeaked in the same way. I decided to spray some 
lithium-based lubricant (it was what I had handy) on all the metal parts 
around the tension bolt and the springs, anywhere there could be movement. 
The squeaking disappeared. It feels pleasantly weird to pedal along in 
almost complete silence — little noise emanates from the bike itself other 
than the sound of tires on pavement, gravel, or dirt.  

As an aside, the new B67 felt exactly like the old one to my sit parts. In 
other words, I realized that the notion of breaking in a Brooks leather 
saddle is meaningless for me. There was no appreciable difference in feel 
between a brand new one and the one I had ridden over thousands of miles 
for a decade. 

On Monday, August 29, 2022 at 1:05:19 PM UTC-4 Lucky wrote:

> I have both seats. I prefer the B67 for bolt upright where I’m more back 
> on my butt,  and the Flyer goes on my mountain bikes/more lean-over bikes. 
> Flyer is narrower by quite a bit. It’s a B17 with springs. 
>
> On Aug 29, 2022, at 10:00, schralp  wrote:
>
> Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime 
> olive platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with 
> albatross bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks 
> professional from the 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright 
> position. I’m thinking Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this esteemed 
> group and, how does one avoid annoying squeaks with those spring saddles. 
> My riding is essentially road and hard packed dry trails in so. Cal. 
> Thanks! 
>
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Re: [RBW] Flyer vs. B67

2022-08-29 Thread luckyturnip 
I have both seats. I prefer the B67 for bolt upright where I’m more back on my 
butt,  and the Flyer goes on my mountain bikes/more lean-over bikes. Flyer is 
narrower by quite a bit. It’s a B17 with springs. 

> On Aug 29, 2022, at 10:00, schralp  wrote:
> 
> Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime olive 
> platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with albatross 
> bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks professional from the 
> 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright position. I’m thinking 
> Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this esteemed group and, how does one 
> avoid annoying squeaks with those spring saddles. My riding is essentially 
> road and hard packed dry trails in so. Cal. Thanks!
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[RBW] Flyer vs. B67

2022-08-29 Thread schralp 
Just joined after purchasing my first Country bike; a beaut of a lime olive 
platypus. Goal is to get more upright and it was outfitted with albatross 
bars which are about perfect. However, I put my Brooks professional from 
the 70s on and it doesn’t quite match the more upright position. I’m 
thinking Flyer vs b67. Any recommendations from this esteemed group and, 
how does one avoid annoying squeaks with those spring saddles. My riding is 
essentially road and hard packed dry trails in so. Cal. Thanks!

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