Re: [RBW] Gus owners, does your RD/shifter cable rub against kickstand bracket?

2023-01-18 Thread Brian Turner 
Riffing on Keith’s HDPE “fix”, I think my plan is to find (or fashion) an appropriately thick piece of HDPE so that it is actually slightly thicker than those turned down “lips” of the plate. Then, I’ll channel an open groove (rather than a tunnel that encloses the cable) for the cable to glide against and in theory, should provide enough offset to not rub against metal. I’m not popped about drilling another hole in the plate to attach it, so maybe some sort of strong adhesive will work… I dunno.On Jan 18, 2023, at 2:18 PM, iamkeith  wrote:FWIW, @brokebike's reply reminded me:  With the guide shifted outward like this photo, my derailleur cable DID land right at the edge of the kickstand plate. So the wear to the cable and frame could have been worse.  I think the contours of the fillet on my bike made it less-than perfect in that position, too.  So all things considered and trying different options, the position in my photos worked best for me.Also, I did briefly attempt to drill holes in the turned-down edges on the kickstand plate, in an effort to "tunnel" the derailleur cable through it.  (I seem to recall having some similar detail on a chainstary brace on an old Ritchey mtb at some point.)  Because it was hard to get a drill (or center punch) at the correct angle, it became evident pretty quickly that I was going to mess up some paint somewhere.  Plus, it would have fixed the cable position permanently.  So the HDPE guide was actually my fix option #4 or #5.  It's pretty perfect, I think. (Also, when I say "fix", I don't really mean there is a design flaw in the bike.   It's just one of those things you need to discover and work out, same as any bike)On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 12:02:55 PM UTC-7 Scott wrote:
Richard,I don't think that's correct hole in cable guide to pass screw through. If you position cable guide using that hole, it moves guide (for FD cable) more inboard and your FD cable will likely interfere with whatever you mount on underside of down tube cage bosses. Eyeball the line of site from cable guide along underside of down tube to see what I mean.As always, I may be incorrect...Scott





On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 11:53:31 AM MST, Richard Rose  wrote:



Very interesting. My rear derailleur has yet to arrive but this got my attention! So I installed the guide to eyeball the situation. It does not look like it will be an issue but it certainly will not take me by surprise.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 18, 2023, at 10:48 AM, 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Gus owners,When doing a trial run of my RD/shifter cable from the BB cable guide to chain stay housing stop, it contacts underside of the kickstand bracket. Not proper in my mind.If you have same situation, how are you going to correct it, or just leave it? What say you?Scott



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Re: [RBW] Gus owners, does your RD/shifter cable rub against kickstand bracket?

2023-01-18 Thread iamkeith 
FWIW, @brokebike's reply reminded me:  With the guide shifted outward like 
this photo, my derailleur cable DID land right at the edge of the kickstand 
plate. So the wear to the cable and frame could have been worse.  I think 
the contours of the fillet on my bike made it less-than perfect in that 
position, too.  So all things considered and trying different options, the 
position in my photos worked best for me.

Also, I did briefly attempt to drill holes in the turned-down edges on the 
kickstand plate, in an effort to "tunnel" the derailleur cable through it.  
(I seem to recall having some similar detail on a chainstary brace on an 
old Ritchey mtb at some point.)  Because it was hard to get a drill (or 
center punch) at the correct angle, it became evident pretty quickly that I 
was going to mess up some paint somewhere.  Plus, it would have fixed the 
cable position permanently.  So the HDPE guide was actually my fix option 
#4 or #5.  It's pretty perfect, I think. 

(Also, when I say "fix", I don't really mean there is a design flaw in the 
bike.   It's just one of those things you need to discover and work out, 
same as any bike)

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 12:02:55 PM UTC-7 Scott wrote:

> Richard,
>
> I don't think that's correct hole in cable guide to pass screw through. If 
> you position cable guide using that hole, it moves guide (for FD cable) 
> more inboard and your FD cable will likely interfere with whatever you 
> mount on underside of down tube cage bosses. Eyeball the line of site from 
> cable guide along underside of down tube to see what I mean.
>
> As always, I may be incorrect...
>
> Scott
>
> On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 11:53:31 AM MST, Richard Rose <
> rmro...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>
>
> Very interesting. My rear derailleur has yet to arrive but this got my 
> attention! So I installed the guide to eyeball the situation. It does not 
> look like it will be an issue but it certainly will not take me by 
> surprise.:)
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:48 AM, 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Gus owners,
>
> When doing a trial run of my RD/shifter cable from the BB cable guide to 
> chain stay housing stop, it contacts underside of the kickstand bracket. 
> Not proper in my mind.
>
> If you have same situation, how are you going to correct it, or just leave 
> it? What say you?
>
> Scott
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Re: [RBW] Gus owners, does your RD/shifter cable rub against kickstand bracket?

2023-01-18 Thread Hunter Harr 
Had this problem on two of my Sam Hillbornes over the years. My solution 
was to take a hacksaw to them, and just cut the corners off the offending 
area at 45 degrees. Used painters tape on the stay to protect it, then just 
filed and sanded the the exposed end flat. Took the cut off piece to drug 
store and found some nail polish that was close match and just touched up 
the one exposed edge. Sorry, no pictures and did not have an issue with 
current Sam or Joe.

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 1:53:29 PM UTC-5 rmro...@gmail.com wrote:

> Very interesting. My rear derailleur has yet to arrive but this got my 
> attention! So I installed the guide to eyeball the situation. It does not 
> look like it will be an issue but it certainly will not take me by 
> surprise.:)
> [image: image0.jpeg]
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:48 AM, 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Gus owners,
>
> When doing a trial run of my RD/shifter cable from the BB cable guide to 
> chain stay housing stop, it contacts underside of the kickstand bracket. 
> Not proper in my mind.
>
> If you have same situation, how are you going to correct it, or just leave 
> it? What say you?
>
> Scott
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Re: [RBW] Gus owners, does your RD/shifter cable rub against kickstand bracket?

2023-01-18 Thread 'Scott Luly' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 Richard,
I don't think that's correct hole in cable guide to pass screw through. If you 
position cable guide using that hole, it moves guide (for FD cable) more 
inboard and your FD cable will likely interfere with whatever you mount on 
underside of down tube cage bosses. Eyeball the line of site from cable guide 
along underside of down tube to see what I mean.
As always, I may be incorrect...

Scott

On Wednesday, January 18, 2023 at 11:53:31 AM MST, Richard Rose 
 wrote:  
 
 Very interesting. My rear derailleur has yet to arrive but this got my 
attention! So I installed the guide to eyeball the situation. It does not look 
like it will be an issue but it certainly will not take me by surprise.:)

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 18, 2023, at 10:48 AM, 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch 
 wrote:



Gus owners,
When doing a trial run of my RD/shifter cable from the BB cable guide to chain 
stay housing stop, it contacts underside of the kickstand bracket. Not proper 
in my mind.
If you have same situation, how are you going to correct it, or just leave it? 
What say you?
Scott


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Re: [RBW] Gus owners, does your RD/shifter cable rub against kickstand bracket?

2023-01-18 Thread Richard Rose 
Very interesting. My rear derailleur has yet to arrive but this got my attention! So I installed the guide to eyeball the situation. It does not look like it will be an issue but it certainly will not take me by surprise.:)Sent from my iPhoneOn Jan 18, 2023, at 10:48 AM, 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch  wrote:Gus owners,When doing a trial run of my RD/shifter cable from the BB cable guide to chain stay housing stop, it contacts underside of the kickstand bracket. Not proper in my mind.If you have same situation, how are you going to correct it, or just leave it? What say you?Scott



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Re: [RBW] Gus owners, does your RD/shifter cable rub against kickstand bracket?

2023-01-18 Thread Josiah Anderson 
Yep, mine does it too. Aesthetically disappointing and might wear out the
cable a bit faster, and might also take off some paint, but my Gus came to
me with paint dings already and the cable will probably break at the
shifter or derailer first anyway so I've decided to ignore it.

Josiah Anderson
Missoula, MT

Le mer. 18 janv. 2023 à 08:48, 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch <
rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com> a écrit :

> Gus owners,
>
> When doing a trial run of my RD/shifter cable from the BB cable guide to
> chain stay housing stop, it contacts underside of the kickstand bracket.
> Not proper in my mind.
>
> If you have same situation, how are you going to correct it, or just leave
> it? What say you?
>
> Scott
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[RBW] Gus owners, does your RD/shifter cable rub against kickstand bracket?

2023-01-18 Thread 'Scott' via RBW Owners Bunch 
Gus owners,

When doing a trial run of my RD/shifter cable from the BB cable guide to 
chain stay housing stop, it contacts underside of the kickstand bracket. 
Not proper in my mind.

If you have same situation, how are you going to correct it, or just leave 
it? What say you?

Scott

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