[RBW] Hookin' up shifters question
What I've done for years when initially fixing the long end of a cable (range of motion limit screws roughly adjusted to hand manipulation of derailleur before chain put on and barrel adjuster all the way in then backed out one turn) is to feed it through the housing and ferrules, making sure all are seated nicely to each other (just fitting them snugly) and when I am pulling it to the cable clamp, instead of pliers or third hand tooling it to get more tension I deflect the derailleur against its spring action with my hand when I tighten the cable clamp. The derailleur spring pulls any overt slack and then I give the shifter a push through a gear or two's range of motion and let it sit for a bit to really seat the ferrules on housings, and both into the stops. No funny kinks or smashed placeson the remaining cable. Andy Cheatham Pittsburgh -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Hookin' up shifters question
Putting Albas with fric/sis bar ends onto Bleriot. Hope to be able to friction shift though over the 10-speed cassette. *1. How hard do I pull on and hold the shifter cable when I tighten it down with the bolt on the derailer?* *Really hard, or just pull gently to its full length? How do I know the cable tension is correct?* ** *2. If I need to use the barend's indexing option because it just wont friction shift over 10 well, what else do I need to do for adjusting cable tension for SIS?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Hookin' up shifters question
Hi Michael, the derailer cables don't need to be super tight to begin with. In the first position, just pull it hand tight. I mean pull it pretty taught, but you don't need to worry about it. They shouldn't be sagging at all, but don't need any more than that. I know that's pretty vague, but can't think of a better way to explain it without showing you IRL :-) On 9/29/13, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Putting Albas with fric/sis bar ends onto Bleriot. Hope to be able to friction shift though over the 10-speed cassette. *1. How hard do I pull on and hold the shifter cable when I tighten it down with the bolt on the derailer?* *Really hard, or just pull gently to its full length? How do I know the cable tension is correct?* ** *2. If I need to use the barend's indexing option because it just wont friction shift over 10 well, what else do I need to do for adjusting cable tension for SIS?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- Cheers, David it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride. - Seth Vidal -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [RBW] Hookin' up shifters question
Just get it taut enough -- I use needlenose pliers to pull it gently. If the chain won't move to the smallest cog, and you've properly adjusted the High throw screw, then back it off a bit. It won't matter if it's wee bit loose, for friction, as long as the lever has enough throw for the entire cassette. For indexing, use the barrel adjuster on the derailleur to get the derailleur positioned correctly. Start by getting the chain to track precisely on the middle cog and then run the chain up and down, adjusting slightly as needed. You don't need to turn the barrel much once the derailleur is close to the right postion. I'll be curious how it does with 10 -- I shift 9 with no problem, and I shifted 10 with a Simplex Retrofriction dt lever -- but the Retrofriction had the advantage of (1) a small barrel for precision and (2) the best clutch mechanism of them all -- better even than the Silvers, IMO. On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 9:43 AM, Michael john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Putting Albas with fric/sis bar ends onto Bleriot. Hope to be able to friction shift though over the 10-speed cassette. *1. How hard do I pull on and hold the shifter cable when I tighten it down with the bolt on the derailer?* *Really hard, or just pull gently to its full length? How do I know the cable tension is correct?* ** *2. If I need to use the barend's indexing option because it just wont friction shift over 10 well, what else do I need to do for adjusting cable tension for SIS?* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* Certified Resume Writer http://resumespecialties.com/index.html patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ Albuquerque, NM -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
[RBW] Hookin' up shifters question
Finger tight is good to start with. Get the barrel adjuster to mid-point to begin with so that you can go one way or other after the fact. You may want to adjust for indexing first and see how that runs. If it shifts indexed, I can't imagine it not shifting manually. Go through the gears on all chainring combinations on the stand...multiple passes. Listen for any problems and observe whtether the deraileur want to shift on it's own in a particular gear. That will give you a good clue about too loose/tight a cable is. Good luck. • Perry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
