[RBW] New Atlantis! - First Riv

2018-06-12 Thread Jon Dukeman,central Colorado
The Great people at Rivendell know their stuff and it shows in your build.
You will get many miles of fun with that bike.
Congrats
Jon

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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis! - First Riv

2018-06-11 Thread Bill Lindsay
Brynnar asked what the strap is for.  

It's a "john's irish strap" around the front rack and the bars, supporting 
the rack as a safety measure.

Rivendell recommends a bit of redundancy on the very remote chance that the 
center strut of your three-point-attached front rack fails.  If the center 
strut fails, you are virtually guaranteed to over the bars.  It's an 
extraordinarily rare and unlikely thing, but it has happened before, and so 
Rivendell likes to be cautious.  If the center strut fails, the rack will 
wobble about some, and the strap will catch it, and you'll have an 
opportunity to fix the situation without going over the bars. Better safe 
than sorry.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Monday, June 11, 2018 at 12:49:30 PM UTC-7, ctifusion wrote:
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> Great build! What's the strap for? I haven't seen that before.
>
> Brynnar 
> Indy
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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis! - First Riv

2018-06-11 Thread ctifusion
Great build! What's the strap for? I haven't seen that before.

Brynnar 
Indy

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[RBW] New Atlantis! - First Riv

2018-06-11 Thread Deacon Patrick
Fantastic bike and build! I sbet you will delight in discovering back roads and 
trails in Louisiana, as well as having a bike that says “Yes! Let’s turn here 
and see where that gravley, muddly thread of a road goes, aye?” Enjoy and keep 
the ride pics coming! We need more ride reports!

With abandon,
Patrick

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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis! - First Riv

2018-06-11 Thread James Warren

Beautiful. Congrats! I love the handlebar too! And great work with the safety 
strap from front mini-rack to handlebar. That’s an important thing

-Jim W.


> On Jun 10, 2018, at 10:01 AM, Brian Reeves  wrote:
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> I've been lurking for quite some time here and have wanted an Atlantis for a 
> while too.  Back in April, I put out a wtb post looking for an Atlantis.  I 
> had quite a few forum members kindly reply back to me.  But after a call to 
> Riv and talking to Grant (whom generously gave me quite a bit of his time 
> when I called in),  I decided to order a new Atlantis (56 - 650b) from Riv 
> and have them build it up for me.  Everyone I spoke to over the phone (Grant, 
> Roman and Corey just to name a few) were very nice...they all seem like great 
> folks and I have had nothing but positive experiences with them.  My Atlantis 
> came well packed and expertly assembled.  I finished unboxing/what assembly 
> was left yesterday and did my first ride yesterday and another today.  The 
> bike feels fantastic...to me it feels nimble and fast yet stable and 
> responsive when needed, and the wide 650b tires makes the pot-hole streets 
> and gravel roads around here feel soo smooth it's almost unreal.
> 
> I've included some photos from yesterday and today.  I **currently** live in 
> Hamilton, a small town in central Texas with a population of under 3000 
> peoplebut will be undergoing a pretty fast move this month to Alexandria 
> in central Louisiana which is pretty exciting but just a lot to take care of 
> in under a month if all the stars alignespecially with working toward 
> finding housing by July 1st. 
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[RBW] New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

2018-04-07 Thread Joe Bernard
Keith: My entirely unscientific calculation is based on the 53 Atlantis having 
the same ETT as my old 51 Appaloosa. Of course as you allude, this computation 
of ST-to-TT sizing only works if both bikes are offered in the same ST sizes. 
They're not so your summation is the correct one, and I don't bloody know what 
I'm talking about!

I still want to see an Analog Cycles dropbar gravel bike version with the 
single front chainring and pie-plate cassette, I think it would be cool on an 
Atlantis. Like this!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ohoCnLpvS80guXseefHWaKd4jdI1BhXw/view?usp=drivesdk

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[RBW] New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

2018-04-07 Thread iamkeith
Joe, why do you say the top tubes are shorter than on the appaloosa?  I guess 
I'm not seeing that unless you mean they will "feel" shorter if you raise the 
handlebars, because the head tube is a half or whole degree more slack?

What I'm seeing is that these look like they might have been intentionally 
sized to fit BETWEEN the appaloosa sizes.  That alone would be more than reason 
enough to keep both models, in my book.

Based on ETTs, we now have sizes of:

54, (54.5), 55.5, (56.5), 57.5, (58.3), 59, (59.7), 62, (62.5), 63.5

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[RBW] New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

2018-04-06 Thread Joe Bernard
I'd like see them add some pics as a dropbar "gravel grinder", as the shorter 
toptube seems to be the main differentiator from Appaloosa now. Maybe Mark can 
slap one of those newfangled SRAM 1x groups on one. 

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[RBW] New Atlantis Pre-sale page is up on rivbike.com

2018-04-06 Thread Bill Lindsay
Now you can put your money down on a new Atlantis:

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/framesets/products/frame-new-atlantis

Happy shopping! 

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-16 Thread Patrick Moore
Got it; thanks.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
>
> On 08/15/2016 07:21 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I've asked this question before in another context, but I'll ask it again
> here, since the general question has been raised: if non-aero levers
> require more force on the hoods, *not* because of the shape of the lever,
> but because the leverage is less favorable
>
>
> No, although I've never measured it, I don't think it's cable pull, but
> rather where you're pushing on the brake lever with respect to where the
> lever pivots.  The pivot is very close to where your fingers rest when
> you're trying to brake from the hoods, so the lever arm is very short,
> meaning more force is required; and you're trying to do it with the muscles
> you use when you're typing, the ones the make the fingers push down, rather
> than the strong ones you use to squeeze something inside your fist.
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[RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-16 Thread IanA
What width are the Noodles?  I have had 42cm and currently have 44cm and 46cm. 
The 46 are great on the hoods, but the drops are deep. The 44s are great in the 
drops and there's enough real estate on the top of the bars. I've found all 
three sizes that I've tried to be excellent. 

Ian A/canada

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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
Steve Palincsar wrote:
It's not "hand strength," it's more like "finger strength."  From the 
hoods you really don't get to use your more powerful hand muscles. 

My hand consists mainly of a bunch of fingers. See here:





Steve wondered:* "I'm not even sure how you'd go about trying to strengthen 
those muscles*." See here:

*http://tinyurl.com/z3kou66*


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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar



On 08/15/2016 07:21 PM, Patrick Moore wrote:
I've asked this question before in another context, but I'll ask it 
again here, since the general question has been raised: if non-aero 
levers require more force on the hoods, /not/ because of the shape of 
the lever, but because the leverage is less favorable


No, although I've never measured it, I don't think it's cable pull, but 
rather where you're pushing on the brake lever with respect to where the 
lever pivots.  The pivot is very close to where your fingers rest when 
you're trying to brake from the hoods, so the lever arm is very short, 
meaning more force is required; and you're trying to do it with the 
muscles you use when you're typing, the ones the make the fingers push 
down, rather than the strong ones you use to squeeze something inside 
your fist.



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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Patrick Moore
I've asked this question before in another context, but I'll ask it again
here, since the general question has been raised: if non-aero levers
require more force on the hoods, *not* because of the shape of the lever,
but because the leverage is less favorable, then:

Doesn't this mean that non-aero levers are designed to pull more cable?
IOW, is more force required because the lever moves the pads more for a
given unit of distance? Or, is there some 3d reason, unknown to me, why
more force is required?

My motive: if non-aeros pull more cable, then perhaps they might be a good
mix for cable-operated disc brakes.

Patrick Moore, whose new BB7 Roads pulled by aero levers are working just
fine at the moment.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 1:20 PM, Steve Palincsar  wrote:

>
>
> On 08/15/2016 02:55 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>
>> Rene said that he:
>>
>> " just read one if Jan's articles explaining why they are much harder to
>> use from the hoods as that position has a much shorter lever arm and
>> braking is better from the drops"
>>
>> Jan is absolutely right and it's all just math.  The pivot for non-aero
>> "traditional" brake levers is quite low.  Of course, if Jan said "much
>> harder" then that's a subjective thing.  People have been using non-aero
>> brakelevers for generations, and they've done just fine.
>>
>
> Well, that's true but there's a caveat: they did just fine braking from
> the hooks, but not the hoods.  That wasn't so popular until after aero
> levers came in.  And the reason for that change is obvious, once you try
> both.
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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Bill Lindsay
Always keep a couple rolls of Eggplant Newbaums on hand for the ROYAL 
TREATMENT.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

 " I do think the Atlantis looks better with drops and that bartape!"

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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread René Sterental
I will give the non-aero levers a try just to experience the difference and
decide if I leave them or switch to the aero ones like I have on the other
bikes with drop bars. Haven't used those since I was 16-17! Back when I
didn't even know frames came in different sizes and just rode a bike I was
loaned. I just thought I needed a longer seatpost for it... ;-)

Thanks for all the feedback! And yes, I do think the Atlantis looks better
with drops and that bartape!

René

On Monday, August 15, 2016, Deacon Patrick  wrote:

> Zippy! Agreed on the Albatross. You're smarter than me. I took two years
> to figure that out. Grin.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
>
> On Monday, August 15, 2016 at 10:03:44 AM UTC-6, Mark Reimer wrote:
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>> I've been riding albatross bars for the last few months after more than a
>> year on dirt drops, and I decided it was time for a change.
>>
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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar

On 08/15/2016 02:23 PM, Mark Reimer wrote:
René, a few reasons for those levers, with the main reason being that 
I had them kicking around, and didn't have any non-aero levers 
available. But beyond that, I think there is some aesthetic value 
there. The classic non-aero levers really look nice with a Rivendell 
in my opinion. You are correct about the braking issue though - 
braking from the hoods is pretty bad honestly. In the drops I have all 
the power I need, but man... at speed, braking from the hoods isn't a 
great option.


I agree 100% on both points.  The old-style non-aero levers look great.  
And braking from the hoods is pretty bad.


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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Ryan Fleming
And this is where I love those groovy TRP levers. I can brake easily from 
the hoods or the drops...they are sinfully comfortable and they really work 
well ...esp. combined with the VO Grand Cru brakes which replaced the old 
Campy Super Record brakes and levers.



On Monday, August 15, 2016 at 1:23:37 PM UTC-5, Mark Reimer wrote:
>
> René, a few reasons for those levers, with the main reason being that I 
> had them kicking around, and didn't have any non-aero levers available. But 
> beyond that, I think there is some aesthetic value there. The classic 
> non-aero levers really look nice with a Rivendell in my opinion. You are 
> correct about the braking issue though - braking from the hoods is pretty 
> bad honestly. In the drops I have all the power I need, but man... at 
> speed, braking from the hoods isn't a great option. 
>
> On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Tony DeFilippo  > wrote:
>
>> Your Atlantis looks great Mark!  I like the non-aero levers to.
>>
>> Bar change must be in the air.. I've been riding with alba's on my Saluki 
>> for over a year now and have been getting itchy to put Noodles back on.  I 
>> almost started last night but ended up messing around with my XO3 instead 
>> (moustache bars on that one).
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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar


On 08/15/2016 02:26 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote:
I never got that one, other than maybe some don't have the hand 
strength to pull the lever completely from the hood position, which I 
guess takes a bit more muscle.



It's not "hand strength," it's more like "finger strength."  From the 
hoods you really don't get to use your more powerful hand muscles.



I have non-aero on both my current drop setups and have never had an 
issue with braking from the hoods. The brake doesn't know where your 
hand is, so as long as you can comfortably apply the full braking 
motion, there should be no difference in stopping power. Just step up 
your iron fist kung fu training a bit and you should be fine.


I'm not even sure how you'd go about trying to strengthen those muscles.


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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Steve Palincsar



On 08/15/2016 02:55 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:

Rene said that he:

" just read one if Jan's articles explaining why they are much harder 
to use from the hoods as that position has a much shorter lever arm 
and braking is better from the drops"


Jan is absolutely right and it's all just math.  The pivot for 
non-aero "traditional" brake levers is quite low.  Of course, if Jan 
said "much harder" then that's a subjective thing.  People have been 
using non-aero brakelevers for generations, and they've done just fine.


Well, that's true but there's a caveat: they did just fine braking from 
the hooks, but not the hoods.  That wasn't so popular until after aero 
levers came in.  And the reason for that change is obvious, once you try 
both.



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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Bill Lindsay
Rene said that he:

" just read one if Jan's articles explaining why they are much harder to 
use from the hoods as that position has a much shorter lever arm and 
braking is better from the drops"

Jan is absolutely right and it's all just math.  The pivot for non-aero 
"traditional" brake levers is quite low.  Of course, if Jan said "much 
harder" then that's a subjective thing.  People have been using non-aero 
brakelevers for generations, and they've done just fine.  "Harder" is an 
objective fact, and just comes down to the math.  If your hands are strong 
enough, it doesn't matter, like Mark pointed out.  If having a lighter 
touch on the levers is something you prefer, or is something that makes you 
feel safer, then absolutely do that.  If having a firmer pull on the levers 
makes you feel more confident that you are in control, then absolutely do 
that.  If both styles work and feel fine for you, then choose based on 
ergonomics (how it feels riding on the hoods) or aesthetics.   

One thing you might want to add, Rene, is how the braking will feel *relative 
to *the rest of your stable.  I did a build recently with M.A.F.A.C. 
centerpulls and decided to use the stock brakelevers.  The braking was 
plenty powerful, but the lever feel was so different from my other 10 
bikes, that I switched out the levers.  I decided it was more important to 
me that my many bikes feel relatively similar to each other, so my 'stop 
quick' grip on "Bike X" does not equal an "over the bars" grip on "Bike Y". 
 

I hope those thoughts help

Bill Lindsay
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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch
I never got that one, other than maybe some don't have the hand strength to 
pull the lever completely from the hood position, which I guess takes a bit 
more muscle. I have non-aero on both my current drop setups and have never 
had an issue with braking from the hoods. The brake doesn't know where your 
hand is, so as long as you can comfortably apply the full braking motion, 
there should be no difference in stopping power. Just step up your iron 
fist kung fu training a bit and you should be fine. Most heavy/emergency 
braking is best done from the drops anyway, since it facilitates getting 
into a position that gets your weight back. For scrubbing speed you don't 
need the full court press.

That purple tape is royal!

On Monday, August 15, 2016 at 1:05:28 PM UTC-4, René wrote:
>
> Any reason for going with non-aero brake levers? I
>
> 'm considering them for my custom to try them for the look/personality, 
> but just read one if Jan's articles explaining why they are much harder to 
> use from the hoods as that position has a much shorter lever arm and 
> braking is better from the drops. 
>
> On the aero levers, both positions have similar lever arms so braking from 
> the hoods is much easier and equivalent to braking from the drops. 
>
> René 
>
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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Mark Reimer
René, a few reasons for those levers, with the main reason being that I had
them kicking around, and didn't have any non-aero levers available. But
beyond that, I think there is some aesthetic value there. The classic
non-aero levers really look nice with a Rivendell in my opinion. You are
correct about the braking issue though - braking from the hoods is pretty
bad honestly. In the drops I have all the power I need, but man... at
speed, braking from the hoods isn't a great option.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:08 PM, Tony DeFilippo  wrote:

> Your Atlantis looks great Mark!  I like the non-aero levers to.
>
> Bar change must be in the air.. I've been riding with alba's on my Saluki
> for over a year now and have been getting itchy to put Noodles back on.  I
> almost started last night but ended up messing around with my XO3 instead
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[RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Tony DeFilippo
Your Atlantis looks great Mark!  I like the non-aero levers to.

Bar change must be in the air.. I've been riding with alba's on my Saluki for 
over a year now and have been getting itchy to put Noodles back on.  I almost 
started last night but ended up messing around with my XO3 instead (moustache 
bars on that one).

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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread René Sterental
Any reason for going with non-aero brake levers? I

'm considering them for my custom to try them for the look/personality, but
just read one if Jan's articles explaining why they are much harder to use
from the hoods as that position has a much shorter lever arm and braking is
better from the drops.

On the aero levers, both positions have similar lever arms so braking from
the hoods is much easier and equivalent to braking from the drops.

René

On Monday, August 15, 2016, Mark Reimer  wrote:

> I've been riding albatross bars for the last few months after more than a
> year on dirt drops, and I decided it was time for a change. Alba's are
> awesome in the city, but I found the upright position a bit inhibiting for
> bigger and longer efforts. With fall coming up, I've got some longer rides
> planned and wanted a bar more suitable for century rides and such. I put
> the trusty Noodles back on and tried this gorgeous deep purple cloth tape.
> I'm very pleased. It's amazing how changing your bars totally transforms
> the feeling of a bike. What used to feel very relaxed and lazy now feels
> quick and sporting. Fun!
>
> Also just a reminder that if anyone out there has a 61 Atlantis or 58
> Hunq... I'm looking to trade my 58 atlantis!
>
>
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[RBW] New Atlantis setup, loving the drops

2016-08-15 Thread Mark Reimer
I've been riding albatross bars for the last few months after more than a 
year on dirt drops, and I decided it was time for a change. Alba's are 
awesome in the city, but I found the upright position a bit inhibiting for 
bigger and longer efforts. With fall coming up, I've got some longer rides 
planned and wanted a bar more suitable for century rides and such. I put 
the trusty Noodles back on and tried this gorgeous deep purple cloth tape. 
I'm very pleased. It's amazing how changing your bars totally transforms 
the feeling of a bike. What used to feel very relaxed and lazy now feels 
quick and sporting. Fun!

Also just a reminder that if anyone out there has a 61 Atlantis or 58 
Hunq... I'm looking to trade my 58 atlantis!







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[RBW] New Atlantis Build

2013-07-29 Thread kmcmoobud
Hi,

I just finished building up my partner's new Atlantis, which we purchased 
from listserv member Pepe.  We took it out for a test ride and had an 
unfortunate encounter with chain suck.  The first scratch of many, I 
suppose.  

We picked a mix of components to make the bike flexible enough to tour, 
keep up (mostly) during shorter road/group rides, and most importantly, to 
carry my trout-fishing obsessed partner to the harder to reach blue line 
fishing streams where the native brookies tend to hide.The build list 
link is included with the pictures, which are found here:  
http://www.flickr.com/photos/surlybvisits/sets/72157634826315045/

Racks, fenders, and a few other small items to be added when we find the 
pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, which, if there is any bike can get 
us there, this is the one!

Oh, and a big shout out to Steve Cheers with Mountain Sports 
Limitedhttp://mountainsportsltd.com/for listening to us go on and on and on 
about the build!  Visit these guys 
if you can.

Happy riding,

Kristy

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[RBW] new Atlantis: proper BB length for XD2 crank?

2012-05-16 Thread Eric
Hey there! I've been trying to figure out what everyone thinks would
be the proper BB length for the cartridge bottom bracket Riv sells to
outfit on my new Atlantis. I will be using the XD2 crankset too.

Someone says 107...older posts say 110 or 113please, someone...set
me straight!

Thanks!

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Re: [RBW] new Atlantis: proper BB length for XD2 crank?

2012-05-16 Thread mikel66...@juno.com
i have a 113mm on my Atlantis using a Sugino xd triple crank. i could get by 
with a 110 especially if i ran a 24t granny ring
mike goldman
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[RBW] New Atlantis

2012-04-28 Thread Darin G.
I've been commuting on my new 58 Atlantis for several weeks.  Built it up 
entirely with parts from my 56 Hillborne.  With Marathon Supremes at 60/50 
psi the ride is buddah.

One little bit I'm particularly fond of is the clean bell attachment 
offered by VO stem spacer bell mount.  The Crane bell is elegant, but the 
clamp mount, not so much.  I also installed one on my wife's LHT and 
everyone notices it.

Pics:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/sets/72157629554834316/


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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis

2012-04-28 Thread James Warren

Outstanding. Yours is set up with so few limitations.


On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Darin G. wrote:

 I've been commuting on my new 58 Atlantis for several weeks.  Built it up 
 entirely with parts from my 56 Hillborne.  With Marathon Supremes at 60/50 
 psi the ride is buddah.
 
 One little bit I'm particularly fond of is the clean bell attachment offered 
 by VO stem spacer bell mount.  The Crane bell is elegant, but the clamp 
 mount, not so much.  I also installed one on my wife's LHT and everyone 
 notices it.
 
 Pics:  http://www.flickr.com/photos/79571137@N07/sets/72157629554834316/
 
 
 
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[RBW] New Atlantis

2011-05-02 Thread johnb
So I pulled the trigger on Friday and purchased a new Atlantis. In my
extended conversations with Keven and Vince @ Rivbike, they were
encouraging me to think beyond Noodle bars and specifically to the
Albatross bar. I plan to use this bike for commuting to work on very
hilly terrain @ 8 miles each way, local bike rides of about 50 miles
on the weekend, supported and self-supported touring. I would truly
like for this bike to be a jack of all trades. I have an Albatross on
a QB that I ride to the store and like it quite a bit and I think it
would be great for commuting but am concerned with the longer rides
with this bar. Any experience with this set up? Anyone try to use two
different bars with quick connects for the cables (I saw one of these
on cyclofiend site and thought it was a brilliant idea)?

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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis

2011-05-02 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Mon, 2011-05-02 at 13:06 -0700, johnb wrote:
 So I pulled the trigger on Friday and purchased a new Atlantis. In my
 extended conversations with Keven and Vince @ Rivbike, they were
 encouraging me to think beyond Noodle bars and specifically to the
 Albatross bar. I plan to use this bike for commuting to work on very
 hilly terrain @ 8 miles each way, local bike rides of about 50 miles
 on the weekend, supported and self-supported touring. I would truly
 like for this bike to be a jack of all trades. I have an Albatross on
 a QB that I ride to the store and like it quite a bit and I think it
 would be great for commuting but am concerned with the longer rides
 with this bar. Any experience with this set up? Anyone try to use two
 different bars with quick connects for the cables (I saw one of these
 on cyclofiend site and thought it was a brilliant idea)?
 

I don't like upright bars on hills at all. 



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Re: [RBW] New Atlantis

2011-05-02 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:06 PM, johnb jbust...@gmail.com wrote:
 So I pulled the trigger on Friday and purchased a new Atlantis. In my
 extended conversations with Keven and Vince @ Rivbike, they were
 encouraging me to think beyond Noodle bars and specifically to the
 Albatross bar. I plan to use this bike for commuting to work on very
 hilly terrain @ 8 miles each way, local bike rides of about 50 miles
 on the weekend, supported and self-supported touring. I would truly
 like for this bike to be a jack of all trades. I have an Albatross on
 a QB that I ride to the store and like it quite a bit and I think it
 would be great for commuting but am concerned with the longer rides
 with this bar. Any experience with this set up? Anyone try to use two
 different bars with quick connects for the cables (I saw one of these
 on cyclofiend site and thought it was a brilliant idea)?

congrats on the new bike!

i do the bar swap all the time. I traded bars out this weekend. It
took MAYBE 10 minutes to do the whole thing.

and heck 5 min of that was wrestling with the workstand.

it's completely worth the time - if you have any questions about
setting them up I'll be glad to help if you drop me an email.
-sv

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