[RBW] New Frame Day (the build commences)

[Bill Lindsay]

I picked up my Pink Roadeo frame, fork, stem and fenders this morning at 
Riv HQ.  I took several photos and added them to my Flickr album with no 
commentary (yet):

https://flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/albums/72177720313109003/

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

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Re: [RBW] New Frame Day

[Curtis McKenzie]

Happy new frame day.  So much fun planning and anticipating the bicycle.

Enjoy,

Curtis

On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 7:23 PM Linda G  wrote:

> I just unpacked my 50 cm Sergio green Platypus. Gorgeous frame. I love the
> color and am already planning my overall color scheme. So far: Honey Brooks
> B67-S, Velo Orange basket weave grips to match the saddle, cables probably
> gray, and olive Saddlesack XS whenever they are made again. No racks to
> start. Not flashy, pretty classic!
>
> Awhile back someone started a thread on here about what model bike we
> would like Rivendell to make. I said a mixte like the Cheviot though with V
> brakes in a nice color green. I think someone at Riv must have read my
> entry.
>
> Next I need to take all the parts off my Soma Grand Randonneur and move
> them over. I decided I'm just not a low trail person. Luckily it is 650B so
> the wheels will fit and everything else should too. I will need new
> handlebars and maybe a shorter stem.
>
> Linda
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[RBW] New Frame Day

[Linda G]

I just unpacked my 50 cm Sergio green Platypus. Gorgeous frame. I love the 
color and am already planning my overall color scheme. So far: Honey Brooks 
B67-S, Velo Orange basket weave grips to match the saddle, cables probably 
gray, and olive Saddlesack XS whenever they are made again. No racks to 
start. Not flashy, pretty classic!

Awhile back someone started a thread on here about what model bike we would 
like Rivendell to make. I said a mixte like the Cheviot though with V 
brakes in a nice color green. I think someone at Riv must have read my 
entry.

Next I need to take all the parts off my Soma Grand Randonneur and move 
them over. I decided I'm just not a low trail person. Luckily it is 650B so 
the wheels will fit and everything else should too. I will need new 
handlebars and maybe a shorter stem.

Linda

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Re: [RBW] New Frame

[Joel Stern]

Typo, that should be a 50cm, not 59.  I will send you a private reply.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 10:53 PM Jon Dukeman 
wrote:

> Wow! Thanks.
> 8 weeks ago I had lower lumbar decompression surgery because my left foot
> dropped. I used to be 6'3" I'm now 6'1". I haven't ridden since last
> September. I now have good days and bad. I hope I'm able to ride again. I
> rode up and down the street a couple of times Saturday. I'm 69 yrs old.
> Having trouble getting my leg over the saddle when dissmounting.
> The 58 Sam just touches when I stand over. I could ride the Cheviot all
> day long.
> I'd like to hear more about your back if you feel like sharing.
> I'm glad you will be back in the saddle again.
> I don't know what I would do if I was told I couldn't ride again.
> Sounds like you are in California.
> I used to live down south in Long Beach.
> Nice talking with you.
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 8:35 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>
>> Jon, the last measurement, 3+ times was in the 80.645 area.  Years ago
>> when Grant measured me it was 82 or 83.  I know even though I have lost 2”
>> after 2 back surgeries it seems impossible that I could lose anything from
>> the pelvic bone down.  My last custom, which I sold when I thought I would
>> never ride again was 56cm.  The Saluki I bought at 56cm was too big, the
>> Bleriot seemed fine but maybe I was more tolerant of a close fit.  The 50cm
>> Atlantis with the new geometry I was told would have me taking a bike 4cm
>> less than my Bleriot, so a 54, which was not made would have been the
>> equivalent by using the 4” rule.  1cm less height may have made the bike
>> perfect, 2 cm probably better.  I did try a 51 Appaloosa by invitation from
>> a forum member, it seemed ok, I brushed the TT a bit less than on the
>> Bleriot.  I spoke with Grant and he was certain the 59cm Atlantis would be
>> a better fit, and I will use a 48mm tire vs. the 42mm I am using on the
>> Bleriot.  If the TT is not giving you any issues on the Sam I bet it is the
>> correct size.  My first Riv was a 53, then a 54, etc.  the 54 was probably
>> the correct size but I wanted a true custom vs. a Road (stupid I know).  I
>> had a 52.5cm AR that was probably perfect and if I had used fat tires I bet
>> I would have loved it. I was riding 28’s I think.  That is the one I regret
>> parting with the most.
>> My Bleriot is a pleasure to ride now that I have remembered where to hold
>> the Albatross bars for best stability, the Atlantis will be a totally
>> different animal I am told.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jon Dukeman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Joel. Can I ask your PBH? Mine is 87PBH
>>> I have a 58 Sam and a 60Cheviot.
>>> Both are really comfortable after I get on. But they seem big when
>>> getting on or off.
>>> Did you feel that way with your old bike?
>>> Sometimes I feel I could use a smaller frame. Maybe I'm getting oldI
>>> was looking at a 55 Atlantis.
>>> Jon
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:03 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>>>
 Thanks Jon, it's a 50cm. I really wanted an orange Appaloosa but the
 50cm is just a better fit for me. My 55cm Bleriot is a tad big for me, that
 was my excuse for getting a new frame.

 It will be a simple build with my favorite parts.

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:49 PM Jon Dukeman 
 wrote:

> Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build.
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:44 PM Joel  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Newest frame patiently waiting to be built up. Waiting for wheels
>> from Peter White, all parts are ready to go, or I should say almost ready
>> to go. Framesaved, hanging up in basement. More when it is finished.
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Re: [RBW] New Frame

[Jon Dukeman]

Wow! Thanks.
8 weeks ago I had lower lumbar decompression surgery because my left foot
dropped. I used to be 6'3" I'm now 6'1". I haven't ridden since last
September. I now have good days and bad. I hope I'm able to ride again. I
rode up and down the street a couple of times Saturday. I'm 69 yrs old.
Having trouble getting my leg over the saddle when dissmounting.
The 58 Sam just touches when I stand over. I could ride the Cheviot all day
long.
I'd like to hear more about your back if you feel like sharing.
I'm glad you will be back in the saddle again.
I don't know what I would do if I was told I couldn't ride again.
Sounds like you are in California.
I used to live down south in Long Beach.
Nice talking with you.
Jon

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 8:35 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Jon, the last measurement, 3+ times was in the 80.645 area.  Years ago
> when Grant measured me it was 82 or 83.  I know even though I have lost 2”
> after 2 back surgeries it seems impossible that I could lose anything from
> the pelvic bone down.  My last custom, which I sold when I thought I would
> never ride again was 56cm.  The Saluki I bought at 56cm was too big, the
> Bleriot seemed fine but maybe I was more tolerant of a close fit.  The 50cm
> Atlantis with the new geometry I was told would have me taking a bike 4cm
> less than my Bleriot, so a 54, which was not made would have been the
> equivalent by using the 4” rule.  1cm less height may have made the bike
> perfect, 2 cm probably better.  I did try a 51 Appaloosa by invitation from
> a forum member, it seemed ok, I brushed the TT a bit less than on the
> Bleriot.  I spoke with Grant and he was certain the 59cm Atlantis would be
> a better fit, and I will use a 48mm tire vs. the 42mm I am using on the
> Bleriot.  If the TT is not giving you any issues on the Sam I bet it is the
> correct size.  My first Riv was a 53, then a 54, etc.  the 54 was probably
> the correct size but I wanted a true custom vs. a Road (stupid I know).  I
> had a 52.5cm AR that was probably perfect and if I had used fat tires I bet
> I would have loved it. I was riding 28’s I think.  That is the one I regret
> parting with the most.
> My Bleriot is a pleasure to ride now that I have remembered where to hold
> the Albatross bars for best stability, the Atlantis will be a totally
> different animal I am told.
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jon Dukeman 
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Joel. Can I ask your PBH? Mine is 87PBH
>> I have a 58 Sam and a 60Cheviot.
>> Both are really comfortable after I get on. But they seem big when
>> getting on or off.
>> Did you feel that way with your old bike?
>> Sometimes I feel I could use a smaller frame. Maybe I'm getting oldI
>> was looking at a 55 Atlantis.
>> Jon
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:03 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jon, it's a 50cm. I really wanted an orange Appaloosa but the
>>> 50cm is just a better fit for me. My 55cm Bleriot is a tad big for me, that
>>> was my excuse for getting a new frame.
>>>
>>> It will be a simple build with my favorite parts.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:49 PM Jon Dukeman 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build.
 Jon

 On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:44 PM Joel  wrote:

>
>
> Newest frame patiently waiting to be built up. Waiting for wheels from
> Peter White, all parts are ready to go, or I should say almost ready to 
> go.
> Framesaved, hanging up in basement. More when it is finished.
>
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Re: [RBW] New Frame

[Joel Stern]

Jon, the last measurement, 3+ times was in the 80.645 area.  Years ago when
Grant measured me it was 82 or 83.  I know even though I have lost 2” after
2 back surgeries it seems impossible that I could lose anything from the
pelvic bone down.  My last custom, which I sold when I thought I would
never ride again was 56cm.  The Saluki I bought at 56cm was too big, the
Bleriot seemed fine but maybe I was more tolerant of a close fit.  The 50cm
Atlantis with the new geometry I was told would have me taking a bike 4cm
less than my Bleriot, so a 54, which was not made would have been the
equivalent by using the 4” rule.  1cm less height may have made the bike
perfect, 2 cm probably better.  I did try a 51 Appaloosa by invitation from
a forum member, it seemed ok, I brushed the TT a bit less than on the
Bleriot.  I spoke with Grant and he was certain the 59cm Atlantis would be
a better fit, and I will use a 48mm tire vs. the 42mm I am using on the
Bleriot.  If the TT is not giving you any issues on the Sam I bet it is the
correct size.  My first Riv was a 53, then a 54, etc.  the 54 was probably
the correct size but I wanted a true custom vs. a Road (stupid I know).  I
had a 52.5cm AR that was probably perfect and if I had used fat tires I bet
I would have loved it. I was riding 28’s I think.  That is the one I regret
parting with the most.
My Bleriot is a pleasure to ride now that I have remembered where to hold
the Albatross bars for best stability, the Atlantis will be a totally
different animal I am told.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 8:28 PM Jon Dukeman 
wrote:

> Thanks Joel. Can I ask your PBH? Mine is 87PBH
> I have a 58 Sam and a 60Cheviot.
> Both are really comfortable after I get on. But they seem big when getting
> on or off.
> Did you feel that way with your old bike?
> Sometimes I feel I could use a smaller frame. Maybe I'm getting oldI was
> looking at a 55 Atlantis.
> Jon
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:03 PM Joel Stern  wrote:
>
>> Thanks Jon, it's a 50cm. I really wanted an orange Appaloosa but the 50cm
>> is just a better fit for me. My 55cm Bleriot is a tad big for me, that was
>> my excuse for getting a new frame.
>>
>> It will be a simple build with my favorite parts.
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:49 PM Jon Dukeman 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build.
>>> Jon
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:44 PM Joel  wrote:
>>>


 Newest frame patiently waiting to be built up. Waiting for wheels from
 Peter White, all parts are ready to go, or I should say almost ready to go.
 Framesaved, hanging up in basement. More when it is finished.

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Re: [RBW] New Frame

[Jon Dukeman]

Thanks Joel. Can I ask your PBH? Mine is 87PBH
I have a 58 Sam and a 60Cheviot.
Both are really comfortable after I get on. But they seem big when getting
on or off.
Did you feel that way with your old bike?
Sometimes I feel I could use a smaller frame. Maybe I'm getting oldI was
looking at a 55 Atlantis.
Jon


On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 6:03 PM Joel Stern  wrote:

> Thanks Jon, it's a 50cm. I really wanted an orange Appaloosa but the 50cm
> is just a better fit for me. My 55cm Bleriot is a tad big for me, that was
> my excuse for getting a new frame.
>
> It will be a simple build with my favorite parts.
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:49 PM Jon Dukeman 
> wrote:
>
>> Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build.
>> Jon
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:44 PM Joel  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Newest frame patiently waiting to be built up. Waiting for wheels from
>>> Peter White, all parts are ready to go, or I should say almost ready to go.
>>> Framesaved, hanging up in basement. More when it is finished.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] New Frame

[Joel Stern]

Thanks Jon, it's a 50cm. I really wanted an orange Appaloosa but the 50cm
is just a better fit for me. My 55cm Bleriot is a tad big for me, that was
my excuse for getting a new frame.

It will be a simple build with my favorite parts.

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 7:49 PM Jon Dukeman 
wrote:

> Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build.
> Jon
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:44 PM Joel  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Newest frame patiently waiting to be built up. Waiting for wheels from
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>> Framesaved, hanging up in basement. More when it is finished.
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Re: [RBW] New Frame

[Jon Dukeman]

Nice. What size is the frame? Looking forward to seeing final build.
Jon

On Mon, Aug 10, 2020, 5:44 PM Joel  wrote:

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>
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[RBW] New Frame Day

[Birdman]

Congrats, those are both beautiful bikes!

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[RBW] New Frame Day

[Joe Bernard]

"I will confirm that the fillet work on both my Gus and Susie is beautifully 
and masterfully done.  Could not feel or eyeball anything that looked less than 
perfect."

Same for the fillet joints on my custom (I know that's redundant cuz custom but 
bear with me). My frame has fillets and lugs and I think I'm actually more 
fascinated by the pretty welds! I suppose they're newer to me as an old lug 
guy, so this may play a part. 

I love that Gus! 

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[RBW] New Frame Day

[S]

I like that blue. 

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[RBW] New Frame Day

['Abcyclehank' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I will confirm that the filet work on both my Gus and Susie is beautifully and 
masterfully done.  Could not feel or eyeball anything that looked less than 
perfect.

Ryan Hankinson
West Michigan

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[RBW] New Frame Day! Almost a trade of a Black Mountain Road for a LEO

[Bill Lindsay]

I used to own two Black Mountain Road bikes.  Both 59cm, both orange.  One 
lives at my mom's house and is set up as an all purpose road bike.  The 
other, at my house, used to be set up as a racier, lighter stripped down 
road bike.  I ran across an iBob lister who wanted a Black Mountain road 
frame for a little less than retail, and we struck a deal.  I took those 
dollars and my Hail Mary dollars and my Rivendollars to get a Leo Roadini 
frameset, and I picked that up today.  The build will be exactly what I had 
on my Black Mountain, except it'll have a quill stem and a 26.8mm 
seatpost.  The result will be a still-sporty road bike, but one that's a 
little more upright and civilized.  I think of it as having a vibe similar 
to what we used to call a "sport touring" bike in the 1980s.  My still-new 
Legolas will be my aggro-race-bike.  I expect to get right into the build 
tonight, since I have everything.  Fun detail: the quill stem will be a 
Nitto-Ritchey-Force from a 1993 XO-1.  I haven't planned out the fit in a 
super detailed way, but I might end up with the stem totally slammed.  This 
57 has a tall headtube.  This frame will allow me to get the bars WAY up, 
if and when I need to do that.  For now, I expect that they'll be up even 
when they're down.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

P.S.  To their credit, multiple Riv employees asked "What are you buying 
this for?  You've got a road bike!"  When I explained the "trade", then 
they were like "Oh, OK, that makes sense then"

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[RBW] New Frame Day!

[WETH]

Congrats.  That is a nice stable of bikes you have!

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Re: [RBW] New Frame Day!

[cyclotourist]

Those BMC bikes are pretty sweet! Congrats!

On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:24 PM, David Banzer  wrote:
> Not a Riv, but pretty similar in my book, my Black Mountain Monster Cross
> was dropped off a day early by Fedex. Pleasant surprise.
> I rode me Clem in today which is shod with 29x2.1" Thunderburts. Thought,
> why not try those to check clearances. Extremely surprised to find that
> Thunderburts fit, with room for fenders. Due to the horizontal dropouts
> though, it's tight squeeze to get the wheel in with a Thunderburt.
> Mine will be set up initially as fixed/single. I'll most likely order up
> another pair of Thunderburts.
> This'll round out my current bike stable nicely with a Clem for daily
> meandering, Redwood for roads, Schwinn Voyageur as a lock-up bike, and the
> Monster Cross as a great all-rounder.
> David
> Chicago
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"it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal

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[RBW] New Frame Day!

[David Banzer]

Not a Riv, but pretty similar in my book, my Black Mountain Monster Cross 
was dropped off a day early by Fedex. Pleasant surprise.
I rode me Clem in today which is shod with 29x2.1" Thunderburts. Thought, 
why not try those to check clearances. Extremely surprised to find that 
Thunderburts fit, with room for fenders. Due to the horizontal dropouts 
though, it's tight squeeze to get the wheel in with a Thunderburt.
Mine will be set up initially as fixed/single. I'll most likely order up 
another pair of Thunderburts.
This'll round out my current bike stable nicely with a Clem for daily 
meandering, Redwood for roads, Schwinn Voyageur as a lock-up bike, and the 
Monster Cross as a great all-rounder.
David
Chicago

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[RBW] New frame specials up on rivbike

[Dave]

Solid deal on a demo Betty foy, among others

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[RBW] New Frame Specials up

[Zack]

what a scratch on that betty - great deal though.


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