Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Roberta]

 I like the look of a trouser guard.  I guess that is similar to a bash 
guard.  Very practical and can be very pretty.

I'm probably going with a 1x11, perhaps a 1x12, but I haven't spoken with 
James at Analog about differences yet, except for the price.  I live in a 
fairly flat place and even if I got a triple, I don't think I'm strong 
enough to use even the easiest of the easy gears.   Is it possible to put a 
trouser guard on a 1x?  I guess my front ring would be a "double?"

I love the look of fenders, but will probably wait on them, since for 
multimodal transport, they create complications.

On Thursday, October 22, 2020 at 8:45:16 AM UTC-4, Tom Wyland wrote:
>
> Well, all my bikes have fenders and I've found there is nothing more 
> annoying than a fender that rubs the tire when you go over bumps, etc.  I 
> always size them 10mm wider than the tire.  So a 43mm tire isn't going to 
> work very well with 45mm fenders unless the tires inflate to much smaller 
> than the stated width.
>
> I'm having similar mental gymnastics, but not around fenders.  I'm 
> thinking about a crankset for my Platypus.  I guess you can't go wrong with 
> the Rivendell Silver, but I'm looking for a vintage triple I can put a bash 
> guard onto, maybe?
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 2:30 AM masmojo  > wrote:
>
>> These are 45MM should work well!
>
>  
>> https://ridepdw.com/collections/fenders/products/full-metal-fenders-city-size?variant=14871301488697
>>
>> I too have some wood fenders I am planning on using. I was just up in the 
>> general direction of HQ and called to see if maybe I could stop by and see 
>> a prototype, but they shot me down. :-(
>> Would have been nice to help me make my mind up and visualize the whole 
>> thing.
>>
>> Leah, I don't think I'd worry about getting the fenders MM perfect; as 
>> long as the fender covers the majority of the tire it should be fine; 90% 
>> of the spray comes off the center of the tire anywayz. 
>> On top of that how many 700 X 50mm tires are there at this point?
>> Some 43MM Gravel King slicks would probably be Ideal for a build like 
>> this!
>>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Bicycle Belle Ding Ding!]

I’m glad you guys are resurrecting this thread. I am bored to tears over here 
and talking bikes is good for morale. I got the fenders squared away. Analog 
ordered the VO fluted fenders in 63 mm for my 43 or 44 (I forget) mm tires. I 
also ordered the PDW breakaway tabs, which, incidentally was new to Analog. I 
think with the trail riding they like to do those tabs are a good thing for 
them to know about. 

As far as cranksets, I just went with Silver from Rivendell. I nearly went 1x, 
but honestly, I love the trouser guard (looks so clean) and I really do use 
both cogs in front on the daily for Killer Hill. We won’t live here forever, so 
if I do end up in flatter terrain someday, maybe I’ll try 1x then. Why do you 
want a triple, Tom?

I’m still waiting for...everything. I have a pair of pretty, white Ergons and 
THAT’S IT. The wheels aren’t scheduled to arrive at Analog until 11/6 (Velocity 
is low on stock and these are being anodized), and the Platypus and its parts 
are still at Rivendell. Hurry up and wait. 

And because of the parts shortage, I would highly recommend to everyone that if 
you are planning on ordering a Platypus, best get your parts ordered now. I 
thought I was ahead of the game when I ordered my wheelset and dyno on 9.25, 
since the Platypus wasn’t supposed to arrive until late November. But, the way 
it looks, it will be Thanksgiving before I will be able to ride this bike. 
2020, people. Ugh...

But, I do have those old 650b Clem wheels just sitting in my garage...what’s 
the worst thing that could happen if I put those on my 700c bike? 🙃

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Tom Wyland]

Well, all my bikes have fenders and I've found there is nothing more
annoying than a fender that rubs the tire when you go over bumps, etc.  I
always size them 10mm wider than the tire.  So a 43mm tire isn't going to
work very well with 45mm fenders unless the tires inflate to much smaller
than the stated width.

I'm having similar mental gymnastics, but not around fenders.  I'm thinking
about a crankset for my Platypus.  I guess you can't go wrong with the
Rivendell Silver, but I'm looking for a vintage triple I can put a bash
guard onto, maybe?

Tom


On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 2:30 AM masmojo  wrote:

> These are 45MM should work well!


> https://ridepdw.com/collections/fenders/products/full-metal-fenders-city-size?variant=14871301488697
>
> I too have some wood fenders I am planning on using. I was just up in the
> general direction of HQ and called to see if maybe I could stop by and see
> a prototype, but they shot me down. :-(
> Would have been nice to help me make my mind up and visualize the whole
> thing.
>
> Leah, I don't think I'd worry about getting the fenders MM perfect; as
> long as the fender covers the majority of the tire it should be fine; 90%
> of the spray comes off the center of the tire anywayz.
> On top of that how many 700 X 50mm tires are there at this point?
> Some 43MM Gravel King slicks would probably be Ideal for a build like this!
>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[masmojo]

>
> These are 45MM should work well!
>>>
>>>
 
https://ridepdw.com/collections/fenders/products/full-metal-fenders-city-size?variant=14871301488697

I too have some wood fenders I am planning on using. I was just up in the 
general direction of HQ and called to see if maybe I could stop by and see 
a prototype, but they shot me down. :-(
Would have been nice to help me make my mind up and visualize the whole 
thing.

Leah, I don't think I'd worry about getting the fenders MM perfect; as long 
as the fender covers the majority of the tire it should be fine; 90% of the 
spray comes off the center of the tire anywayz. 
On top of that how many 700 X 50mm tires are there at this point?
Some 43MM Gravel King slicks would probably be Ideal for a build like this!

 

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Kainalu V. -Brooklyn NY]

Fancy's great!, and best once it gets grimed. Diamond in the rough and 
stuff. 
And from what little I've learned of aluminum fenders from reading around 
here, a most important take away is that the fender needs to be "relaxed", 
meaning it wants to be precisely where it is, holding position, not trying 
to pull itself elsewhere however slightly. An art? maybe. Certainly a job 
suited to patient folks. 
Looking forward to seeing all these platypi
-Kai


On Wednesday, October 7, 2020 at 3:45:22 PM UTC-4 Ann L wrote:

> Leah:
>
> Go fancy.  In fact for a frame that pretty, there is no such thing as too 
> fancy.  
>
> Also, when I initially had Honjos on my Soma, I had 700c seven though my 
> wheels were 650bs.  The aluminum was pliable enough to bend to fit the 
> wheels and didn't look off.  That may be an option for you to explore.  I 
> will see if I can find some pictures.   
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:51:52 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> Jason, I think the Platypus is supposed to be able to take 50 mm tires. 
>> 48 with fenders. Don’t ask me how I know that, I cannot remember, but 
>> someone from Riv wrote it SOMEWHERE. Lol on the “wavy” fender. Too true, 
>> too true.
>>
>> This bike is getting pretty fancy. I cannot decide if I should just go 
>> with it or toss plastic SKS fenders in there so the thing is a bit more 
>> humble.
>>
>> Riv can’t do the fenders without the wheels, and Analog will have the 
>> wheels but no frame. Analog is planning for a fender-mount for my tail 
>> light, so someone has to do them! It’s a fine kettle of fish, as they say 
>> where I’m from...
>>
>> Roberta and Ann and Joyce - yes, #RivSisters forever. Platypuses on 
>> parade. And so on and so forth!
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I am generally not a fan of wood fenders either but I can't argue that 
>> those would look good on the Ras-Platypus.  I'm trying to figure out what 
>> fork crown that is on the Platypus, it's very similar looking to the Clem / 
>> Hunq one but not the same (my Clem's got a half moon shape where that has 
>> three dots).  Knowing that inside dimension would be helpful before 
>> suggesting over-60mm fenders, but VO makes a 63mm fluted model for 700c 
>> that would look good imo. 
>>
>> Re-radiusing is quite doable but also nice to avoid if possible, since 
>> it's really not that hard to mess it up and end up with the wrong kind of 
>> wavy fender. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Leah:

Go fancy.  In fact for a frame that pretty, there is no such thing as too 
fancy.  

Also, when I initially had Honjos on my Soma, I had 700c seven though my 
wheels were 650bs.  The aluminum was pliable enough to bend to fit the 
wheels and didn't look off.  That may be an option for you to explore.  I 
will see if I can find some pictures.   

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 10:51:52 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Jason, I think the Platypus is supposed to be able to take 50 mm tires. 48 
> with fenders. Don’t ask me how I know that, I cannot remember, but someone 
> from Riv wrote it SOMEWHERE. Lol on the “wavy” fender. Too true, too true.
>
> This bike is getting pretty fancy. I cannot decide if I should just go 
> with it or toss plastic SKS fenders in there so the thing is a bit more 
> humble.
>
> Riv can’t do the fenders without the wheels, and Analog will have the 
> wheels but no frame. Analog is planning for a fender-mount for my tail 
> light, so someone has to do them! It’s a fine kettle of fish, as they say 
> where I’m from...
>
> Roberta and Ann and Joyce - yes, #RivSisters forever. Platypuses on 
> parade. And so on and so forth!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 6, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
>
> 
>
> I am generally not a fan of wood fenders either but I can't argue that 
> those would look good on the Ras-Platypus.  I'm trying to figure out what 
> fork crown that is on the Platypus, it's very similar looking to the Clem / 
> Hunq one but not the same (my Clem's got a half moon shape where that has 
> three dots).  Knowing that inside dimension would be helpful before 
> suggesting over-60mm fenders, but VO makes a 63mm fluted model for 700c 
> that would look good imo. 
>
> Re-radiusing is quite doable but also nice to avoid if possible, since 
> it's really not that hard to mess it up and end up with the wrong kind of 
> wavy fender. 
>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Leah Peterson]

Jason, I think the Platypus is supposed to be able to take 50 mm tires. 48 with 
fenders. Don’t ask me how I know that, I cannot remember, but someone from Riv 
wrote it SOMEWHERE. Lol on the “wavy” fender. Too true, too true.

This bike is getting pretty fancy. I cannot decide if I should just go with it 
or toss plastic SKS fenders in there so the thing is a bit more humble.

Riv can’t do the fenders without the wheels, and Analog will have the wheels 
but no frame. Analog is planning for a fender-mount for my tail light, so 
someone has to do them! It’s a fine kettle of fish, as they say where I’m 
from...

Roberta and Ann and Joyce - yes, #RivSisters forever. Platypuses on parade. And 
so on and so forth!

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 6, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Jason Fuller  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am generally not a fan of wood fenders either but I can't argue that those 
> would look good on the Ras-Platypus.  I'm trying to figure out what fork 
> crown that is on the Platypus, it's very similar looking to the Clem / Hunq 
> one but not the same (my Clem's got a half moon shape where that has three 
> dots).  Knowing that inside dimension would be helpful before suggesting 
> over-60mm fenders, but VO makes a 63mm fluted model for 700c that would look 
> good imo. 
> 
> Re-radiusing is quite doable but also nice to avoid if possible, since it's 
> really not that hard to mess it up and end up with the wrong kind of wavy 
> fender. 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Roberta]

Sorry. I got you mixed up with Joyce. Yes, let's be RivSisters fraternal 
twins/triplets/etc!

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Mark Roland]

The 63mm 700c fluted VO is what I have on my 650B Clem L, above. A classic 
look, but I think Leah much prefers the waavies

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 8:42:44 PM UTC-4, Jason Fuller wrote:
>
> I am generally not a fan of wood fenders either but I can't argue that 
> those would look good on the Ras-Platypus.  I'm trying to figure out what 
> fork crown that is on the Platypus, it's very similar looking to the Clem / 
> Hunq one but not the same (my Clem's got a half moon shape where that has 
> three dots).  Knowing that inside dimension would be helpful before 
> suggesting over-60mm fenders, but VO makes a 63mm fluted model for 700c 
> that would look good imo. 
>
> Re-radiusing is quite doable but also nice to avoid if possible, since 
> it's really not that hard to mess it up and end up with the wrong kind of 
> wavy fender. 
>
>   
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Jason Fuller]

I am generally not a fan of wood fenders either but I can't argue that
those would look good on the Ras-Platypus.  I'm trying to figure out what
fork crown that is on the Platypus, it's very similar looking to the Clem /
Hunq one but not the same (my Clem's got a half moon shape where that has
three dots).  Knowing that inside dimension would be helpful before
suggesting over-60mm fenders, but VO makes a 63mm fluted model for 700c
that would look good imo.

Re-radiusing is quite doable but also nice to avoid if possible, since it's
really not that hard to mess it up and end up with the wrong kind of wavy
fender.

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Mark Roland]

How about these: (I was never a big fan of wood fenders because of the flat 
profile, but now that he makes them with a compound curve, I am seriously 
pondering them for my Hubbuhubbuh--almost exclusively for style points, 
since it will rarely be ridden in the rain.


[image: custom-wood-fender-ccf-109-2.jpg]


On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 3:21:56 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> I suppose I don’t understand how 650b fenders can work on 700 and vice 
> versa, but it’s encouraging to think that they CAN. If Analog can somehow 
> mock up the wavy VO fenders for my raspberry Platypus, I’ll be delighted. 
> If not, I probably will go with SKS and call it good. 
>
> Nothing stresses me out like asking people to do fenders for me. And 
> worse, asking Vegas bike shops, who would not have the skill and not see 
> the need. Ugh, I’m tempted to go in disguise! Assume a new identity. Use a 
> fake name. “Yes, hello, I have a fender job for you. The name’s Betty. 
> Betty Foy...”
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 6, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Mark Roland  > wrote:
>
> 
> Double oops, forgot to post a couple of gratuitous recent fender pics 
> while we wait for the rare razzgranate (pomaberry? Razzpom?) Platypus 
> shots. Now with skinny 48mm RH tires there is skads of room.
>
> 
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 12:32:59 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>
>> Oops, did not see that Dave already linked to some good instructions.
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 12:31:27 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>>
>>> I had the opposite problem when building my Clem L earlier this year--I 
>>> did not want the wavy style, and none of the other 650B offerings were wide 
>>> enough for the tires I was planning to use, so I bought the 700c 63mm 
>>> fluted style and reradiused down to fit the Schwalbe 650B tires. I was 
>>> familiar with the concept, but I can get dyslexic when trying to remember 
>>> instructions like this, so I followed the method in Anton's blog (it's down 
>>> a bit):
>>>
>>>
>>> https://somervillebikes.wordpress.com/2020/03/01/how-to-install-metal-fenders-part-i-achieving-a-proper-arc-radius/
>>>
>>> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:16:05 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding 
>>> Ding! wrote:

 Dave, this is fantastic. My tires will be 43 or 44, I think. But won’t 
 the 650b fenders be too short on a 700 c wheel??? If not, I would totally 
 go for it.

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:41 AM, Dave S  wrote:

 
 Re-radiusing the wavy fender to fit 700c is very easy.  Velo Orange 
 even has a blog on how to do it: 
 https://velo-orange.com/pages/re-radiusing-fenders

 You'll have to gently squeeze the fender together so it ends up being a 
 bit narrower. The wavy is pretty wide from the start so you'll probably be 
 ok if your tire choice isn't super wide.




>
> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that 
> finding fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of 
> the 
> ones I like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my 
> favorite waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but 
> alas, 650b only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself 
> further yet.
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Patrick Moore]

Whoops, late to the party as usual. Anton's instructions are good. I do
recall reading about someone who used a hard -- wood? -- ball to increase
the flare and reduce the radius.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 6:14 PM Patrick Moore  wrote:

> It isn't too hard to re-radius fenders; I've done it in a small way to
> reduce the 650B arch to 26"/559 bsd size. I know there are instructions on
> the web. Basically the principle is that you can widen or flare the width
> to reduce are arc, and compress or narrow the width to increase the arc.
> Perhaps someone knows a link to good instructions. I know that Jan Heine
> devoted a feature in a past Bicycle Quarterly to fenders, and the
> instructions included re-radiusing.
>
> Once you learn the general principles, the activity is pretty
> straightforward; but of course, it's learning the method that is the hard
> part. I learned it the hard way by, basically, ruining at least a couple of
> nice, expensive pairs of metal fenders.
>
> If you can get Analog to do it, go for it.
>
> The raspberry color is very nice. Me, I dislike white accessories, but IMO
> the raspberry paint will quite overshadow any white detractions.
>
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 1:21 PM Leah Peterson 
> wrote:
>
>> I suppose I don’t understand how 650b fenders can work on 700 and vice
>> versa, but it’s encouraging to think that they CAN. If Analog can somehow
>> mock up the wavy VO fenders for my raspberry Platypus, I’ll be delighted.
>> If not, I probably will go with SKS and call it good.
>>
>> Nothing stresses me out like asking people to do fenders for me. And
>> worse, asking Vegas bike shops, who would not have the skill and not see
>> the need. Ugh, I’m tempted to go in disguise! Assume a new identity. Use a
>> fake name. “Yes, hello, I have a fender job for you. The name’s Betty.
>> Betty Foy...”
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Patrick Moore]

It isn't too hard to re-radius fenders; I've done it in a small way to
reduce the 650B arch to 26"/559 bsd size. I know there are instructions on
the web. Basically the principle is that you can widen or flare the width
to reduce are arc, and compress or narrow the width to increase the arc.
Perhaps someone knows a link to good instructions. I know that Jan Heine
devoted a feature in a past Bicycle Quarterly to fenders, and the
instructions included re-radiusing.

Once you learn the general principles, the activity is pretty
straightforward; but of course, it's learning the method that is the hard
part. I learned it the hard way by, basically, ruining at least a couple of
nice, expensive pairs of metal fenders.

If you can get Analog to do it, go for it.

The raspberry color is very nice. Me, I dislike white accessories, but IMO
the raspberry paint will quite overshadow any white detractions.

On Tue, Oct 6, 2020 at 1:21 PM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> I suppose I don’t understand how 650b fenders can work on 700 and vice
> versa, but it’s encouraging to think that they CAN. If Analog can somehow
> mock up the wavy VO fenders for my raspberry Platypus, I’ll be delighted.
> If not, I probably will go with SKS and call it good.
>
> Nothing stresses me out like asking people to do fenders for me. And
> worse, asking Vegas bike shops, who would not have the skill and not see
> the need. Ugh, I’m tempted to go in disguise! Assume a new identity. Use a
> fake name. “Yes, hello, I have a fender job for you. The name’s Betty.
> Betty Foy...”
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Leah Peterson]

I suppose I don’t understand how 650b fenders can work on 700 and vice versa, 
but it’s encouraging to think that they CAN. If Analog can somehow mock up the 
wavy VO fenders for my raspberry Platypus, I’ll be delighted. If not, I 
probably will go with SKS and call it good. 

Nothing stresses me out like asking people to do fenders for me. And worse, 
asking Vegas bike shops, who would not have the skill and not see the need. 
Ugh, I’m tempted to go in disguise! Assume a new identity. Use a fake name. 
“Yes, hello, I have a fender job for you. The name’s Betty. Betty Foy...”

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 6, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Mark Roland  wrote:
> 
> 
> Double oops, forgot to post a couple of gratuitous recent fender pics while 
> we wait for the rare razzgranate (pomaberry? Razzpom?) Platypus shots. Now 
> with skinny 48mm RH tires there is skads of room.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 12:32:59 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>> Oops, did not see that Dave already linked to some good instructions.
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 12:31:27 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>>> I had the opposite problem when building my Clem L earlier this year--I did 
>>> not want the wavy style, and none of the other 650B offerings were wide 
>>> enough for the tires I was planning to use, so I bought the 700c 63mm 
>>> fluted style and reradiused down to fit the Schwalbe 650B tires. I was 
>>> familiar with the concept, but I can get dyslexic when trying to remember 
>>> instructions like this, so I followed the method in Anton's blog (it's down 
>>> a bit):
>>> 
>>> https://somervillebikes.wordpress.com/2020/03/01/how-to-install-metal-fenders-part-i-achieving-a-proper-arc-radius/
>>> 
 On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:16:05 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
 wrote:
 Dave, this is fantastic. My tires will be 43 or 44, I think. But won’t the 
 650b fenders be too short on a 700 c wheel??? If not, I would totally go 
 for it.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:41 AM, Dave S  wrote:
>> 
> 
> Re-radiusing the wavy fender to fit 700c is very easy.  Velo Orange even 
> has a blog on how to do it: 
> https://velo-orange.com/pages/re-radiusing-fenders
> 
> You'll have to gently squeeze the fender together so it ends up being a 
> bit narrower. The wavy is pretty wide from the start so you'll probably 
> be ok if your tire choice isn't super wide.
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that 
>> finding fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of 
>> the ones I like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to 
>> put my favorite waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the 
>> Platypus, but alas, 650b only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I 
>> limit myself further yet.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Mark Roland]

Oops, did not see that Dave already linked to some good instructions.

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 12:31:27 PM UTC-4, Mark Roland wrote:
>
> I had the opposite problem when building my Clem L earlier this year--I 
> did not want the wavy style, and none of the other 650B offerings were wide 
> enough for the tires I was planning to use, so I bought the 700c 63mm 
> fluted style and reradiused down to fit the Schwalbe 650B tires. I was 
> familiar with the concept, but I can get dyslexic when trying to remember 
> instructions like this, so I followed the method in Anton's blog (it's down 
> a bit):
>
>
> https://somervillebikes.wordpress.com/2020/03/01/how-to-install-metal-fenders-part-i-achieving-a-proper-arc-radius/
>
> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:16:05 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> Dave, this is fantastic. My tires will be 43 or 44, I think. But won’t 
>> the 650b fenders be too short on a 700 c wheel??? If not, I would totally 
>> go for it.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:41 AM, Dave S  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Re-radiusing the wavy fender to fit 700c is very easy.  Velo Orange even 
>> has a blog on how to do it: 
>> https://velo-orange.com/pages/re-radiusing-fenders
>>
>> You'll have to gently squeeze the fender together so it ends up being a 
>> bit narrower. The wavy is pretty wide from the start so you'll probably be 
>> ok if your tire choice isn't super wide.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that 
>>> finding fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the 
>>> ones I like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my 
>>> favorite waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but 
>>> alas, 650b only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself 
>>> further yet.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Mark Roland]

I had the opposite problem when building my Clem L earlier this year--I did 
not want the wavy style, and none of the other 650B offerings were wide 
enough for the tires I was planning to use, so I bought the 700c 63mm 
fluted style and reradiused down to fit the Schwalbe 650B tires. I was 
familiar with the concept, but I can get dyslexic when trying to remember 
instructions like this, so I followed the method in Anton's blog (it's down 
a bit):

https://somervillebikes.wordpress.com/2020/03/01/how-to-install-metal-fenders-part-i-achieving-a-proper-arc-radius/

On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 10:16:05 AM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:
>
> Dave, this is fantastic. My tires will be 43 or 44, I think. But won’t the 
> 650b fenders be too short on a 700 c wheel??? If not, I would totally go 
> for it.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:41 AM, Dave S > 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Re-radiusing the wavy fender to fit 700c is very easy.  Velo Orange even 
> has a blog on how to do it: 
> https://velo-orange.com/pages/re-radiusing-fenders
>
> You'll have to gently squeeze the fender together so it ends up being a 
> bit narrower. The wavy is pretty wide from the start so you'll probably be 
> ok if your tire choice isn't super wide.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that 
>> finding fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the 
>> ones I like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my 
>> favorite waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but 
>> alas, 650b only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself 
>> further yet.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

Roberta:

To Las Vegas?  Not anytime in the near future.

Ann
On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 9:42:47 PM UTC-5 Roberta wrote:

> I'll be getting a pair of these also; at least they are pretty Ergons!  
> Thanks for the tip!
>
> Prior to Riv, I had a 1990 hybrid bike and my purchase of Ergon grips  was 
> the best investment in comfort I made for that bike.  I still have the 
> grips, but they are too short for this application.
>
> I hope to be back in Las Vegas visiting my sister again this coming 
> spring, and we can get together and I can admire your bike.  ANN, are you 
> still planning on coming down?
>
> Roberta
>
> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 5:17:41 PM UTC-4, Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>>
>> I don’t have the bike or its parts yet..but I do have this one thing 
>> waiting for it: these Ergon grips in a crisp white color, that I didn’t 
>> think the company still made. I love Ergon grips, but they are only ever 
>> available in black or cork, and both always clash with my bikes. I buy them 
>> anyway (because they’re so lovely to use) but will you look at these? 
>> Aren’t they so much better for a raspberry and cream bike? I think Roberta 
>> is gonna twin with me on her Platypus. Any other #RivSisters want to join 
>> us? 
>>
>> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that 
>> finding fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the 
>> ones I like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my 
>> favorite waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but 
>> alas, 650b only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself 
>> further yet.
>>
>> I’m finalizing the parts order with Will first thing tomorrow, and then 
>> hopefully I’ll have the bike soon! It will be sitting for a while because 
>> there will be no wheels for a good 5 weeks, but at least I can pull it into 
>> bed with me at night and and tell it how much I love it. 
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Roberta]

I'll be getting a pair of these also; at least they are pretty Ergons!  
Thanks for the tip!

Prior to Riv, I had a 1990 hybrid bike and my purchase of Ergon grips  was 
the best investment in comfort I made for that bike.  I still have the 
grips, but they are too short for this application.

I hope to be back in Las Vegas visiting my sister again this coming spring, 
and we can get together and I can admire your bike.  ANN, are you still 
planning on coming down?

Roberta

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wrote:
>
> I don’t have the bike or its parts yet..but I do have this one thing 
> waiting for it: these Ergon grips in a crisp white color, that I didn’t 
> think the company still made. I love Ergon grips, but they are only ever 
> available in black or cork, and both always clash with my bikes. I buy them 
> anyway (because they’re so lovely to use) but will you look at these? 
> Aren’t they so much better for a raspberry and cream bike? I think Roberta 
> is gonna twin with me on her Platypus. Any other #RivSisters want to join 
> us? 
>
> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that finding 
> fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the ones I 
> like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my favorite 
> waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but alas, 650b 
> only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself further yet.
>
> I’m finalizing the parts order with Will first thing tomorrow, and then 
> hopefully I’ll have the bike soon! It will be sitting for a while because 
> there will be no wheels for a good 5 weeks, but at least I can pull it into 
> bed with me at night and and tell it how much I love it. 
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Dave]

I think all of VO's fenders are the same length. If anything, the fender
may grow slightly in overall length.  The squeezing of the sides is going
to cause the fenders to slightly stretch.  Think about squeezing a piece of
playdough (or real dough!?).  If you smash a round ball, you get a much
bigger (but thinner) pancake.  Same idea.


On Mon, Oct 5, 2020 at 10:16 AM Leah Peterson 
wrote:

> Dave, this is fantastic. My tires will be 43 or 44, I think. But won’t the
> 650b fenders be too short on a 700 c wheel??? If not, I would totally go
> for it.
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:41 AM, Dave S  wrote:
>
> 
> Re-radiusing the wavy fender to fit 700c is very easy.  Velo Orange even
> has a blog on how to do it:
> https://velo-orange.com/pages/re-radiusing-fenders
>
> You'll have to gently squeeze the fender together so it ends up being a
> bit narrower. The wavy is pretty wide from the start so you'll probably be
> ok if your tire choice isn't super wide.
>
>
>
>
>>
>> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that
>> finding fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the
>> ones I like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my
>> favorite waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but
>> alas, 650b only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself
>> further yet.
>>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Leah Peterson]

Dave, this is fantastic. My tires will be 43 or 44, I think. But won’t the 650b 
fenders be too short on a 700 c wheel??? If not, I would totally go for it.

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 5, 2020, at 4:41 AM, Dave S  wrote:
> 
> 
> Re-radiusing the wavy fender to fit 700c is very easy.  Velo Orange even has 
> a blog on how to do it: https://velo-orange.com/pages/re-radiusing-fenders
> 
> You'll have to gently squeeze the fender together so it ends up being a bit 
> narrower. The wavy is pretty wide from the start so you'll probably be ok if 
> your tire choice isn't super wide.
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that finding 
>> fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the ones I 
>> like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my favorite 
>> waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but alas, 650b 
>> only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself further yet.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Dave S]

Re-radiusing the wavy fender to fit 700c is very easy.  Velo Orange even 
has a blog on how to do 
it: https://velo-orange.com/pages/re-radiusing-fenders

You'll have to gently squeeze the fender together so it ends up being a bit 
narrower. The wavy is pretty wide from the start so you'll probably be ok 
if your tire choice isn't super wide.




>
> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that finding 
> fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the ones I 
> like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my favorite 
> waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but alas, 650b 
> only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself further yet.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I will have to see about the colors.  My Soma is the "Rivendell Blue" 
color.  From the pictures, the blilver looks closer to teal so that might 
work.  But I want a different color than the bikes I already have so if 
it's too close to my Soma, I will opt for something else.  I am not crazy 
about the limolive but will wait for further pictures.  I am also exploring 
a custom paint job.  But I do ride my bikes hard and all the time and given 
the beausade I put on them, it might be best to go with a production 
color.  If I recall correctly, you are in Las Vegas and don't have to deal 
with the same weather conditions so aluminum fenders may work out for you 
and would look beautiful with your raspberry and cream color scheme.  The 
metal was thin enough on my honjo's that the bolt rotted through and I had 
to rig it out with zip tie until I got it replaced.  The Woody's are very 
light, stunningly beautiful, and incredibly sturdy.  I am playing with 
different ideas for my build but I do know I want a single ring crank with 
a 10 or 11 cassette and a sunracer bar end shifter (and the aforementioned 
cork grips).  

On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 5:20:21 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> Ann,
>
> Thanks for the recommendation - I’ll check the Woody fenders out! 
>
> Tell us about your build! What are you thinking? I’m sorry your bike isn’t 
> raspberry - I would have loved for the production run to come in that 
> color.  But the blue and green offered are really lovely - which one are 
> you planning to purchase? 
>
> Oh, wow, just checked out the fenders and am surprised that the wooden 
> fenders hold up so well in rain. Very cool!
> Leah
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 4, 2020, at 2:53 PM, 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch <
> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
> I definitely see a Platypus in my future but have my own ideas for a set 
> up.  I can be a fraternal twin with you and Roberta, but not an identical.  
> I think the grips would complete the bike's color scheme (and I am s 
> jealous of that beautiful pomegranite color).  I intend to go with cork 
> grips and they feel nice and weather even nicer.  I had Honjo fluted 
> fenders on my Soma.  They were beautiful and I loved them but after two 
> years the back bolt wore through the metal.  But I ride my bikes hard in 
> all weather conditions.  I have gone with Woody fenders ever since and 
> although they are pricey, I have found them well worth it.  I am about to 
> move back to the Pacific Northwest and will need a bike that can take the 
> rain.  I look forward to seeing your finished bike.  Please post lots of 
> pictures.
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 4:17:41 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I don’t have the bike or its parts yet..but I do have this one thing 
>> waiting for it: these Ergon grips in a crisp white color, that I didn’t 
>> think the company still made. I love Ergon grips, but they are only ever 
>> available in black or cork, and both always clash with my bikes. I buy them 
>> anyway (because they’re so lovely to use) but will you look at these? 
>> Aren’t they so much better for a raspberry and cream bike? I think Roberta 
>> is gonna twin with me on her Platypus. Any other #RivSisters want to join 
>> us? 
>>
>> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that 
>> finding fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the 
>> ones I like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my 
>> favorite waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but 
>> alas, 650b only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself 
>> further yet.
>>
>> I’m finalizing the parts order with Will first thing tomorrow, and then 
>> hopefully I’ll have the bike soon! It will be sitting for a while because 
>> there will be no wheels for a good 5 weeks, but at least I can pull it into 
>> bed with me at night and and tell it how much I love it. 
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Joe Bernard]

"...but at least I can pull it into bed with me at night and and tell it 
how much I love it."

She's not kidding, people 😁

On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 2:17:41 PM UTC-7 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I don’t have the bike or its parts yet..but I do have this one thing 
> waiting for it: these Ergon grips in a crisp white color, that I didn’t 
> think the company still made. I love Ergon grips, but they are only ever 
> available in black or cork, and both always clash with my bikes. I buy them 
> anyway (because they’re so lovely to use) but will you look at these? 
> Aren’t they so much better for a raspberry and cream bike? I think Roberta 
> is gonna twin with me on her Platypus. Any other #RivSisters want to join 
> us? 
>
> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that finding 
> fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the ones I 
> like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my favorite 
> waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but alas, 650b 
> only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself further yet.
>
> I’m finalizing the parts order with Will first thing tomorrow, and then 
> hopefully I’ll have the bike soon! It will be sitting for a while because 
> there will be no wheels for a good 5 weeks, but at least I can pull it into 
> bed with me at night and and tell it how much I love it. 
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Joel S]

https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/str-mg.php

On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 6:23:53 PM UTC-4 Joel S wrote:

> https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fenders.php
>
>
>
> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 5:17:41 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
> wrote:
>
>> I don’t have the bike or its parts yet..but I do have this one thing 
>> waiting for it: these Ergon grips in a crisp white color, that I didn’t 
>> think the company still made. I love Ergon grips, but they are only ever 
>> available in black or cork, and both always clash with my bikes. I buy them 
>> anyway (because they’re so lovely to use) but will you look at these? 
>> Aren’t they so much better for a raspberry and cream bike? I think Roberta 
>> is gonna twin with me on her Platypus. Any other #RivSisters want to join 
>> us? 
>>
>> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that 
>> finding fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the 
>> ones I like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my 
>> favorite waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but 
>> alas, 650b only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself 
>> further yet.
>>
>> I’m finalizing the parts order with Will first thing tomorrow, and then 
>> hopefully I’ll have the bike soon! It will be sitting for a while because 
>> there will be no wheels for a good 5 weeks, but at least I can pull it into 
>> bed with me at night and and tell it how much I love it. 
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Joel S]

https://www.peterwhitecycles.com/fenders.php



On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 5:17:41 PM UTC-4 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I don’t have the bike or its parts yet..but I do have this one thing 
> waiting for it: these Ergon grips in a crisp white color, that I didn’t 
> think the company still made. I love Ergon grips, but they are only ever 
> available in black or cork, and both always clash with my bikes. I buy them 
> anyway (because they’re so lovely to use) but will you look at these? 
> Aren’t they so much better for a raspberry and cream bike? I think Roberta 
> is gonna twin with me on her Platypus. Any other #RivSisters want to join 
> us? 
>
> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that finding 
> fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the ones I 
> like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my favorite 
> waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but alas, 650b 
> only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself further yet.
>
> I’m finalizing the parts order with Will first thing tomorrow, and then 
> hopefully I’ll have the bike soon! It will be sitting for a while because 
> there will be no wheels for a good 5 weeks, but at least I can pull it into 
> bed with me at night and and tell it how much I love it. 
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Leah Peterson]

Ann,

Thanks for the recommendation - I’ll check the Woody fenders out! 

Tell us about your build! What are you thinking? I’m sorry your bike isn’t 
raspberry - I would have loved for the production run to come in that color.  
But the blue and green offered are really lovely - which one are you planning 
to purchase? 

Oh, wow, just checked out the fenders and am surprised that the wooden fenders 
hold up so well in rain. Very cool!
Leah

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 4, 2020, at 2:53 PM, 'Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch 
>  wrote:
> 
> I definitely see a Platypus in my future but have my own ideas for a set up. 
>  I can be a fraternal twin with you and Roberta, but not an identical.  I 
> think the grips would complete the bike's color scheme (and I am s 
> jealous of that beautiful pomegranite color).  I intend to go with cork grips 
> and they feel nice and weather even nicer.  I had Honjo fluted fenders on my 
> Soma.  They were beautiful and I loved them but after two years the back bolt 
> wore through the metal.  But I ride my bikes hard in all weather conditions.  
> I have gone with Woody fenders ever since and although they are pricey, I 
> have found them well worth it.  I am about to move back to the Pacific 
> Northwest and will need a bike that can take the rain.  I look forward to 
> seeing your finished bike.  Please post lots of pictures.
> 
>> On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 4:17:41 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
>> wrote:
>> I don’t have the bike or its parts yet..but I do have this one thing waiting 
>> for it: these Ergon grips in a crisp white color, that I didn’t think the 
>> company still made. I love Ergon grips, but they are only ever available in 
>> black or cork, and both always clash with my bikes. I buy them anyway 
>> (because they’re so lovely to use) but will you look at these? Aren’t they 
>> so much better for a raspberry and cream bike? I think Roberta is gonna twin 
>> with me on her Platypus. Any other #RivSisters want to join us? 
>> 
>> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that finding 
>> fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the ones I 
>> like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my favorite 
>> waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but alas, 650b 
>> only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself further yet.
>> 
>> I’m finalizing the parts order with Will first thing tomorrow, and then 
>> hopefully I’ll have the bike soon! It will be sitting for a while because 
>> there will be no wheels for a good 5 weeks, but at least I can pull it into 
>> bed with me at night and and tell it how much I love it. 
>> Leah
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

['Ann L' via RBW Owners Bunch]

I definitely see a Platypus in my future but have my own ideas for a set 
up.  I can be a fraternal twin with you and Roberta, but not an identical.  
I think the grips would complete the bike's color scheme (and I am s 
jealous of that beautiful pomegranite color).  I intend to go with cork 
grips and they feel nice and weather even nicer.  I had Honjo fluted 
fenders on my Soma.  They were beautiful and I loved them but after two 
years the back bolt wore through the metal.  But I ride my bikes hard in 
all weather conditions.  I have gone with Woody fenders ever since and 
although they are pricey, I have found them well worth it.  I am about to 
move back to the Pacific Northwest and will need a bike that can take the 
rain.  I look forward to seeing your finished bike.  Please post lots of 
pictures.

On Sunday, October 4, 2020 at 4:17:41 PM UTC-5 Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! 
wrote:

> I don’t have the bike or its parts yet..but I do have this one thing 
> waiting for it: these Ergon grips in a crisp white color, that I didn’t 
> think the company still made. I love Ergon grips, but they are only ever 
> available in black or cork, and both always clash with my bikes. I buy them 
> anyway (because they’re so lovely to use) but will you look at these? 
> Aren’t they so much better for a raspberry and cream bike? I think Roberta 
> is gonna twin with me on her Platypus. Any other #RivSisters want to join 
> us? 
>
> I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that finding 
> fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the ones I 
> like) are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my favorite 
> waterfall fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but alas, 650b 
> only. And I don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself further yet.
>
> I’m finalizing the parts order with Will first thing tomorrow, and then 
> hopefully I’ll have the bike soon! It will be sitting for a while because 
> there will be no wheels for a good 5 weeks, but at least I can pull it into 
> bed with me at night and and tell it how much I love it. 
> Leah
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Leah Peterson]

I don’t have the bike or its parts yet..but I do have this one thing waiting 
for it: these Ergon grips in a crisp white color, that I didn’t think the 
company still made. I love Ergon grips, but they are only ever available in 
black or cork, and both always clash with my bikes. I buy them anyway (because 
they’re so lovely to use) but will you look at these? Aren’t they so much 
better for a raspberry and cream bike? I think Roberta is gonna twin with me on 
her Platypus. Any other #RivSisters want to join us? 

I’m off to hunt down some metal fenders now. I didn’t realize that finding 
fenders for 700c wheels would be difficult - it seems most (of the ones I like) 
are made for the smaller width tires. I was hoping to put my favorite waterfall 
fenders (“wavy” by Velo Orange) on the Platypus, but alas, 650b only. And I 
don’t like the snakeskin look, so I limit myself further yet.

I’m finalizing the parts order with Will first thing tomorrow, and then 
hopefully I’ll have the bike soon! It will be sitting for a while because there 
will be no wheels for a good 5 weeks, but at least I can pull it into bed with 
me at night and and tell it how much I love it. 
Leah





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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[masmojo]

Leah, that is absolutely fabulous and inspiring. I can only hope the colors 
of the production models are coming in are more appealing in person 

Patrick, the Redline Monocog is a great bike and I've very nearly bought 
one on a couple occasions; probably would have were it not for the fact 
I've got a half dozen very similar bikes already. 

Great simple bikes for just getting out and exploring/ cruising.

I assume you are getting the Dick brake version?
You will post pictures correct?


On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 5:55:59 PM UTC-5 Patrick Moore wrote:

> I laughed, but in a friendly way, not a sneering way, at your enthusiasm, 
> and opened my eyes wide at the build list; hi-end! Nice!
>
> I'm not sure a Platypus is my cup o' tea, but yours as described will 
> certainly be an elegant build and, if you ride it as you've ridden your 
> others, it will be a very practical build.
>
> Between my eyes and my monitor, I can't say what the frame color is; can 
> you clarify in words what I can't see on screen? Purpley-gray?
>
> Me, I am just making final arrangements to trade the remnants of a Riv 
> Road custom for a brutalist, cheap (but nicely cheap!) ready-to-ride 
> Redline Monocog 29er; this after I just had the same weird custom replaced 
> by a locally built, more integrated (racks and fenders and lighting 
> routing), more liberally tired (takes 42s under fenders) replacement. 
>
> Patrick Moore
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Roberta]

Too funny!. “ Miss Leah, it’s a mixte!”  

On Tuesday, September 29, 2020 at 9:42:17 PM UTC-4, Flowerfang wrote:
>
> That’s is so great!  He looks like a proud obstetrician in that picture. 
>
> On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:46 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
> jonasa...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
>> Hi Friends,
>>
>> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you 
>> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If 
>> not, stop right here
>>
>> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new 
>> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will - 
>> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which 
>> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent 
>> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>>
>> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo 
>> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this 
>> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes 
>> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his 
>> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s 
>> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo, 
>> not the bike. 
>>
>> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it, 
>> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous 
>> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose 
>> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the 
>> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of 
>> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever 
>> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell 
>> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I 
>> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have 
>> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the 
>> parts this week.
>>
>> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone 
>> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made 
>> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a 
>> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of 
>> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a 
>> “joy-bringer.”
>>
>> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes 
>> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated 
>> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>>
>> Leah
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[kim young]

That’s is so great!  He looks like a proud obstetrician in that picture.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 3:46 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you
> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If
> not, stop right here
>
> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new
> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will -
> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which
> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent
> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>
> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo
> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this
> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes
> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his
> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s
> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo,
> not the bike.
>
> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it,
> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous
> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose
> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the
> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of
> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever
> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell
> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I
> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have
> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the
> parts this week.
>
> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone
> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made
> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a
> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of
> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a
> “joy-bringer.”
>
> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes
> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated
> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>
> Leah
>
>
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Platypus: First Look

[Patrick Moore]

I laughed, but in a friendly way, not a sneering way, at your enthusiasm,
and opened my eyes wide at the build list; hi-end! Nice!

I'm not sure a Platypus is my cup o' tea, but yours as described will
certainly be an elegant build and, if you ride it as you've ridden your
others, it will be a very practical build.

Between my eyes and my monitor, I can't say what the frame color is; can
you clarify in words what I can't see on screen? Purpley-gray?

Me, I am just making final arrangements to trade the remnants of a Riv Road
custom for a brutalist, cheap (but nicely cheap!) ready-to-ride Redline
Monocog 29er; this after I just had the same weird custom replaced by a
locally built, more integrated (racks and fenders and lighting routing),
more liberally tired (takes 42s under fenders) replacement.

On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 4:46 PM Bicycle Belle Ding Ding! <
jonasandle...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Friends,
>
> It’s tough out there, isn’t it. Could we use a little joy? Would you
> qualify a sneak peak at a new Rivendell bike model as a joy-bringer? If
> not, stop right here
>
> Are you still with me? Get ready to be delighted! I have wanted a new
> Rivendell mixte ever since the rumored Anniversary Mixte of 2018. Will -
> who has had too many emails from me about the Anniversary Mixte, which
> became the Fancy Cheviot, and ultimately evolved into the Platypus - sent
> me an email. And in that email was the most remarkable photo...
>
> It’s Grant, with my new Platypus in his arms. Everything about this photo
> is so endearing. The way Grant is proudly presenting the bike, this
> long-awaited fancy mixte, named after his favorite animal. The way his eyes
> are covered so you can’t read the pride in them but you can see in his
> outstretched arms how he hopes you are pleased with his masterpiece. It’s
> too much for me. I’m overcome. It is likely to go on my wall...the photo,
> not the bike.
>
> No, the bike will be ridden half to death. I won’t be precious about it,
> but I will dress it up fancy. Analog is doing another one of their famous
> colorful wheelsets and dyno systems for me, and the accent colors we chose
> are rose and teal. (If you only have 2 bikes, you get to splurge on the
> builds. See photo for wheel/dyno selection.) Rivendell will do the rest of
> the build, and I am really looking forward to this because I haven’t ever
> chosen the parts for a complete bike build before. My last *new* Rivendell
> was the 2012 Betty Foy, and I didn’t know a thing about bikes then, so I
> just requested Keven choose everything. In 2020, I know just enough to have
> an opinion and I’m really looking forward to Will’s phone call about the
> parts this week.
>
> The mixtes are the best bikes Rivendell makes, and they have outdone
> themselves with this beauty. It’s regal, like a ballroom gown, and made
> better because it’s not just a pretty face. It may appear as a
> contradiction, because it is exquisite, yes, but not at the expense of
> function. It is smart. Capable. Beautiful. Useful. This is the DNA of a
> “joy-bringer.”
>
> I hope this beautiful bike brightens your day a little bit, and stokes
> your excitement for Grant’s upcoming, long-awaited and much-celebrated
> Rivendell mixte. I wish you all a Platypus this November!
>
> Leah
>
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