Re: [RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Doug Van Cleve]

THOSE seem perfect, and cheap!  Wonder if they are temporarily or
permanently out of stock?

Thanks, Doug

On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 6:53 AM Pat Smith  wrote:

> Soma sells "68mm" Tanaka fenders:
>
> https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/tanaka-fenders-3554?search=Fender--
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Re: [RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Pat Smith]

Soma sells "68mm" Tanaka fenders:


https://www.somafabshop.com/shop/product/tanaka-fenders-3554?search=Fender
On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 9:01:58 PM UTC-4 Patrick Moore wrote:

> If the VOs turn out to be to narrow, try Colin at Kelpie who makes custom 
> fat tire fenders in a thicker gauge of aluminum with 6.5 mm instead of 5 mm 
> stays; about $250 or so, IIRC. (He used to make them from titanium at $100 
> more but said they were so strong that, when he collected a stick under his 
> front, it bent the fork but not the fender; he started using aluminum after 
> that incident.)
>
> The finish is not polished, but they're not bad looking, and they are 
> strong. My Matthews RBFD has 3" of toe overlap with fender, so I kick the 
> front from time to time; no damage yet. And not too heavy, either; the 80 
> mm wide ones (to fit tires almost 62 mm wide) with second (tho' short) 
> front stay weigh about 2 lb the pair, about the weight of a pair of SKS's 
> in the wider sizes.
>
> On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 5:09 PM Justin  wrote:
>
>> I know somwone who was running 700x2.35 G-Ones under 63mm Velo Orange 
>> fluted fenders. They've since downsized to 700x2.2 and fit it good. I hope 
>> to have a reason to try them out this winter 
>>
>> On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:46:48 PM UTC-4 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everybody :^)
>>>
>>> So the V-O Zeppelins are really too narrow, correct?  They would (of 
>>> course) work but would become the tire size limiter rather than the 
>>> frame/fork clearance...  Does anyone in the U.S. sell the 60mm Berthouds?  
>>> I also stumbled across the PDW Full Metal Beast 65mm fenders, pricey but do 
>>> they fit?
>>>
>>> Doug
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Re: [RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Patrick Moore]

If the VOs turn out to be to narrow, try Colin at Kelpie who makes custom
fat tire fenders in a thicker gauge of aluminum with 6.5 mm instead of 5 mm
stays; about $250 or so, IIRC. (He used to make them from titanium at $100
more but said they were so strong that, when he collected a stick under his
front, it bent the fork but not the fender; he started using aluminum after
that incident.)

The finish is not polished, but they're not bad looking, and they are
strong. My Matthews RBFD has 3" of toe overlap with fender, so I kick the
front from time to time; no damage yet. And not too heavy, either; the 80
mm wide ones (to fit tires almost 62 mm wide) with second (tho' short)
front stay weigh about 2 lb the pair, about the weight of a pair of SKS's
in the wider sizes.

On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 5:09 PM Justin  wrote:

> I know somwone who was running 700x2.35 G-Ones under 63mm Velo Orange
> fluted fenders. They've since downsized to 700x2.2 and fit it good. I hope
> to have a reason to try them out this winter
>
> On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:46:48 PM UTC-4 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> Thanks everybody :^)
>>
>> So the V-O Zeppelins are really too narrow, correct?  They would (of
>> course) work but would become the tire size limiter rather than the
>> frame/fork clearance...  Does anyone in the U.S. sell the 60mm Berthouds?
>> I also stumbled across the PDW Full Metal Beast 65mm fenders, pricey but do
>> they fit?
>>
>> Doug
>>
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[RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Justin]

I know somwone who was running 700x2.35 G-Ones under 63mm Velo Orange 
fluted fenders. They've since downsized to 700x2.2 and fit it good. I hope 
to have a reason to try them out this winter 

On Saturday, October 10, 2020 at 2:46:48 PM UTC-4 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Thanks everybody :^)
>
> So the V-O Zeppelins are really too narrow, correct?  They would (of 
> course) work but would become the tire size limiter rather than the 
> frame/fork clearance...  Does anyone in the U.S. sell the 60mm Berthouds?  
> I also stumbled across the PDW Full Metal Beast 65mm fenders, pricey but do 
> they fit?
>
> Doug
>

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[RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Doug Van Cleve]

Thanks everybody :^)

So the V-O Zeppelins are really too narrow, correct?  They would (of
course) work but would become the tire size limiter rather than the
frame/fork clearance...  Does anyone in the U.S. sell the 60mm Berthouds?
I also stumbled across the PDW Full Metal Beast 65mm fenders, pricey but do
they fit?

Doug

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[RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Bill Lindsay]

If you ever ride off-pavement with fenders, particularly with knobbies, 
please consider some kind of breakaway stay mount for the front (or both 
fenders).  The Portland Design Works ones may be the nicest, but the 
Berthoud plastic clips are good also.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, Ca
On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 1:54:44 PM UTC-7 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Howdy folks.
>
> I bought one of these off the list last year, came with the SKS vendors as 
> is typical for an RBW bike. I would like to put metal fenders on it, just 
> because. I have an unused set of the first generation V-O Zepplins, which 
> would work, but I suspect wider is really ideal based on the clearances of 
> the JA.   Cheap(er)-but-good is always the best for me, so I suspect the 
> V-O Wavy fender is the best choice. Am I missing anything?
>
> Thanks, Doug
>

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[RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Benz Ouyang, Sunnyvale, CA]

I'll third, fourth, or fifth this (lost count), although I'll say that 
Berthoud hardware has the lowest profile, so if you're worried about TCO 
from the front fender, Berthoud should get extra emphasis (even if they 
don't offer fancy hammered or fluted designs).

Don't forget to put flaps on at least the front fender so you don't damage 
it hopping the bike off curbs.

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 12:52:41 PM UTC-7 Jason Fuller wrote:

> I have used a couple sets each of Honjo (and Simworks Honjo) and Velo 
> Orange; the Honjo's have a little nicer hardware but they are quite 
> comparable overall.  I don't think you'd go wrong with any of the three 
> mentioned metal options, just a matter of which has the width / style you 
> need--and between the three, you can cover just about any tire short of a 
> fatbike. 

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[RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Jason Fuller]

I have used a couple sets each of Honjo (and Simworks Honjo) and Velo 
Orange; the Honjo's have a little nicer hardware but they are quite 
comparable overall.  I don't think you'd go wrong with any of the three 
mentioned metal options, just a matter of which has the width / style you 
need--and between the three, you can cover just about any tire short of a 
fatbike. 

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[RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[RichS]

I'll second the Berthoud fenders. I've used VOs as well and they work fine 
but for me, the Berthouds have been the least trouble free during 
installation and in use. I like their stays as well.

Best,
Rich in ATL

On Tuesday, October 6, 2020 at 9:40:05 AM UTC-4 Edwin W wrote:

> I have had good luck with the Berthoud fenders 
>  on my Joe.
> Pictures here 
> 
>  with 
> a ton of room with snoqualmie pass tires (44mm).
>
> Edwin
>
> On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 3:54:44 PM UTC-5 Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
>> Howdy folks.
>>
>> I bought one of these off the list last year, came with the SKS vendors 
>> as is typical for an RBW bike. I would like to put metal fenders on it, 
>> just because. I have an unused set of the first generation V-O Zepplins, 
>> which would work, but I suspect wider is really ideal based on the 
>> clearances of the JA.   Cheap(er)-but-good is always the best for me, so I 
>> suspect the V-O Wavy fender is the best choice. Am I missing anything?
>>
>> Thanks, Doug
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Edwin W]

I have had good luck with the Berthoud fenders 
 on my Joe.
Pictures here 

 with 
a ton of room with snoqualmie pass tires (44mm).

Edwin

On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 3:54:44 PM UTC-5 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Howdy folks.
>
> I bought one of these off the list last year, came with the SKS vendors as 
> is typical for an RBW bike. I would like to put metal fenders on it, just 
> because. I have an unused set of the first generation V-O Zepplins, which 
> would work, but I suspect wider is really ideal based on the clearances of 
> the JA.   Cheap(er)-but-good is always the best for me, so I suspect the 
> V-O Wavy fender is the best choice. Am I missing anything?
>
> Thanks, Doug
>

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[RBW] Re: (Best) metal fenders for Joe Appa?

[Collin A]

Not cheaper, but the simworks flat 65 ( 
https://www.sim.works/collections/fenders-simworks-by-honjo/products/flat-65?variant=5250514812957)
 
worked on my Joe and look nice. It took some dimpling at the chainstays, 
seatstays and fork crown, but they work well enough (and they were 
leftovers from my clem). Gives plenty of room underneath for some 650x50 
cazaderos.

I just mounted them for the "rain" California is expecting at the end of 
the week.

Cheers,
Collin, frantically rain dancing, in Sacramento
On Monday, October 5, 2020 at 1:54:44 PM UTC-7 Doug Van Cleve wrote:

> Howdy folks.
>
> I bought one of these off the list last year, came with the SKS vendors as 
> is typical for an RBW bike. I would like to put metal fenders on it, just 
> because. I have an unused set of the first generation V-O Zepplins, which 
> would work, but I suspect wider is really ideal based on the clearances of 
> the JA.   Cheap(er)-but-good is always the best for me, so I suspect the 
> V-O Wavy fender is the best choice. Am I missing anything?
>
> Thanks, Doug
>

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