[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

2024-03-21 Thread Max S
Sometimes it's nice to fuss, and sometimes it feels good to just dirt-bag 
it! For full effect, you should do mismatched bar tape and water bottles! 

- Max "occasional dirtbag" in A2

On Wednesday, March 20, 2024 at 2:08:52 PM UTC-4 Ted Durant wrote:

> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:57:32 AM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:
>
>  Pairing the wheels with some on-sale Vittoria Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made 
> the bike smoother than with 650b x 42 GravelKings and loads faster. Is it 
> an abomination? Heresy? 
>
>
> Well, my only personal feeling about Eric's bike is that the graphics on 
> the rims are kinda loud. Love the Ritchey cranks, though!
>
> I sold my Heron Touring bike to a friend, for whom it was a perfect fit. 
> His brother-in-law, a hard-core road bike kinda guy, had a snazzy pair of 
> "last year's" carbon fiber wheels that he gave to my friend for cheap. I 
> was initially horrified by it and the cork pads he'd manage to find for the 
> cantilever brakes, but he was happy and rode it a LOT, so that made me 
> happy.
>
> I have a lovely Campagnolo Daytona group on my Rivendell Road, with wheels 
> built by Joe Young using shiny, light, skinny FIR rims. I just discovered 
> that Rene Herse 32mm tires fit with room to spare, measuring 29mm on those 
> skinny rims. I also found a NOS 13-26 cassette to replace the 12-23 that I 
> had on there. Talk about an upgrade!  All of a sudden I like this bike a 
> lot more.
>
> Ted Durant
> Milwaukee, WI USA 
>

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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

2024-03-20 Thread Ted Durant
On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:57:32 AM UTC-5 EGNolan wrote:

 Pairing the wheels with some on-sale Vittoria Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made 
the bike smoother than with 650b x 42 GravelKings and loads faster. Is it 
an abomination? Heresy? 


Well, my only personal feeling about Eric's bike is that the graphics on 
the rims are kinda loud. Love the Ritchey cranks, though!

I sold my Heron Touring bike to a friend, for whom it was a perfect fit. 
His brother-in-law, a hard-core road bike kinda guy, had a snazzy pair of 
"last year's" carbon fiber wheels that he gave to my friend for cheap. I 
was initially horrified by it and the cork pads he'd manage to find for the 
cantilever brakes, but he was happy and rode it a LOT, so that made me 
happy.

I have a lovely Campagnolo Daytona group on my Rivendell Road, with wheels 
built by Joe Young using shiny, light, skinny FIR rims. I just discovered 
that Rene Herse 32mm tires fit with room to spare, measuring 29mm on those 
skinny rims. I also found a NOS 13-26 cassette to replace the 12-23 that I 
had on there. Talk about an upgrade!  All of a sudden I like this bike a 
lot more.

Ted Durant
Milwaukee, WI USA 

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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

2024-03-19 Thread Jay
I looked up those BTLOS wheels, very affordable and generally good reviews.

My road bike has Dura-Ace C24, which I believe are just over 1400g.  When I 
start more road rides in the spring I'm going to try out the Roadini, in 
rides with my faster friend, and see how I do in comparison to my road 
bike.  One day, I may use this wheelset on the Roadini and that may tip the 
scales to this being my road bike with this wheelset, and the main wheelset 
with 43mm's being the all-road bike.

On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 11:48:07 AM UTC-4 bfd...@gmail.com wrote:

> I think carbon wheels have come a long way!  I recently bought a set of 
> BTLOS carbon rim brake wheels and love them! They hold up to my 200lb 
> weight, are aero (45mm deep rims), and super light (the wheelset came with 
> a listed weight of 1305g - 729g rear and 576g front)! That's tubular wheel 
> weight! The weight was a surprise as the estimate they gave when I finished 
> selecting the parts was 1325 +/- 25g, so I was expecting 1350g! 
>
> Still the wheels have been fantastic and with Reynolds blue carbon pads, I 
> find the braking to be excellent, although I haven't ridden them in the 
> wet. There's little to no flex and they seem to hold up to everything I put 
> them through as I do occasional rides on gravely roads. 
>
> I'm now thinking maybe I should get a set for my Della Santa, which has 
> standard 32h Mavic Open Pro rims and Campy Record hubs...lol 
>
> Of course, YMMV! 
>
> Good Luck! 
>
> On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 josh.yo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Do whatever makes you happy! I have carbon bits on my Homer so we can be 
>> abominations together.
>>
>> Josh
>> Seattle, WA
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

2024-03-19 Thread Brewster Fong
I think carbon wheels have come a long way!  I recently bought a set of 
BTLOS carbon rim brake wheels and love them! They hold up to my 200lb 
weight, are aero (45mm deep rims), and super light (the wheelset came with 
a listed weight of 1305g - 729g rear and 576g front)! That's tubular wheel 
weight! The weight was a surprise as the estimate they gave when I finished 
selecting the parts was 1325 +/- 25g, so I was expecting 1350g! 

Still the wheels have been fantastic and with Reynolds blue carbon pads, I 
find the braking to be excellent, although I haven't ridden them in the 
wet. There's little to no flex and they seem to hold up to everything I put 
them through as I do occasional rides on gravely roads. 

I'm now thinking maybe I should get a set for my Della Santa, which has 
standard 32h Mavic Open Pro rims and Campy Record hubs...lol 

Of course, YMMV! 

Good Luck! 

On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 josh.yo...@gmail.com wrote:

> Do whatever makes you happy! I have carbon bits on my Homer so we can be 
> abominations together.
>
> Josh
> Seattle, WA
>

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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

2024-03-19 Thread Josh (BertoBerg)
Do whatever makes you happy! I have carbon bits on my Homer so we can be 
abominations together.

Josh
Seattle, WA

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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

2024-03-18 Thread Ryan
And Eric it looks like you have some other choices in your garage if you 
want to go upright...if the wheels are fun why not?

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:21:17 PM UTC-5 Jay wrote:

> I like it!  Splash some red, maybe bar tape, and it all works together 
> nicely.  I had my first ride on some Corsa Pro tires and agree, they are 
> fast.
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 5:49:35 PM UTC-4 reynoldslugs wrote:
>
>> Eric - 
>>
>> go for it, ride it, enjoy it.
>>
>> I  have a lovely 2003 Rivendell Custom. 
>>
>> In its first iteration, I put Mavic Ksyriums on it.
>>
>> Admiittedly, it looks better without the Ksyriums -  
>>
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157625808579123/
>>
>> but I was happy riding them for a while, the bike still road great.  I 
>> got some funny looks but kept going.
>>
>> Story of my life, as it were -
>>
>> anyway, enjoy your bike.
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Max Beach
>> Santa Rosa CA
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:
>>
>>> I'll give lots more background on the backstory and handwringing that 
>>> led to this if you want, but long story short: I scored a mismatched 
>>> (different eras, different materials, different depths) set of Zipp wheels 
>>> extremely cheaply recently and decided to turn my Bosco'd 650b conversion 
>>> Riv Road back into a road bike set up for road riding. Pairing the wheels 
>>> with some on-sale Vittoria Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made the bike smoother 
>>> than with 650b x 42 GravelKings and loads faster. Is it an abomination? 
>>> Heresy? Who knows? Who cares? It's fun, lighter and I'm enjoying the set up 
>>> for now (though I may need a larger chainring now...)
>>>
>>> Enjoy (or not):
>>>
>>> [image: IMG_8312.JPG]
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Eric 
>>> Indpls
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

2024-03-18 Thread Jay
I like it!  Splash some red, maybe bar tape, and it all works together 
nicely.  I had my first ride on some Corsa Pro tires and agree, they are 
fast.

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 5:49:35 PM UTC-4 reynoldslugs wrote:

> Eric - 
>
> go for it, ride it, enjoy it.
>
> I  have a lovely 2003 Rivendell Custom. 
>
> In its first iteration, I put Mavic Ksyriums on it.
>
> Admiittedly, it looks better without the Ksyriums -  
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157625808579123/
>
> but I was happy riding them for a while, the bike still road great.  I got 
> some funny looks but kept going.
>
> Story of my life, as it were -
>
> anyway, enjoy your bike.
>
> best,
>
> Max Beach
> Santa Rosa CA
>
>
>
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:
>
>> I'll give lots more background on the backstory and handwringing that led 
>> to this if you want, but long story short: I scored a mismatched (different 
>> eras, different materials, different depths) set of Zipp wheels extremely 
>> cheaply recently and decided to turn my Bosco'd 650b conversion Riv Road 
>> back into a road bike set up for road riding. Pairing the wheels with some 
>> on-sale Vittoria Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made the bike smoother than with 
>> 650b x 42 GravelKings and loads faster. Is it an abomination? Heresy? Who 
>> knows? Who cares? It's fun, lighter and I'm enjoying the set up for now 
>> (though I may need a larger chainring now...)
>>
>> Enjoy (or not):
>>
>> [image: IMG_8312.JPG]
>>
>> Best,
>> Eric 
>> Indpls
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

2024-03-18 Thread reynoldslugs
Eric - 

go for it, ride it, enjoy it.

I  have a lovely 2003 Rivendell Custom. 

In its first iteration, I put Mavic Ksyriums on it.

Admiittedly, it looks better without the Ksyriums -  

https://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/albums/72157625808579123/

but I was happy riding them for a while, the bike still road great.  I got 
some funny looks but kept going.

Story of my life, as it were -

anyway, enjoy your bike.

best,

Max Beach
Santa Rosa CA



On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:

> I'll give lots more background on the backstory and handwringing that led 
> to this if you want, but long story short: I scored a mismatched (different 
> eras, different materials, different depths) set of Zipp wheels extremely 
> cheaply recently and decided to turn my Bosco'd 650b conversion Riv Road 
> back into a road bike set up for road riding. Pairing the wheels with some 
> on-sale Vittoria Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made the bike smoother than with 
> 650b x 42 GravelKings and loads faster. Is it an abomination? Heresy? Who 
> knows? Who cares? It's fun, lighter and I'm enjoying the set up for now 
> (though I may need a larger chainring now...)
>
> Enjoy (or not):
>
> [image: IMG_8312.JPG]
>
> Best,
> Eric 
> Indpls
>

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RE: [RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

2024-03-18 Thread Bernard Duhon
















How about riv with Campy neutron or protons



From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com  On 
Behalf Of Bill Lindsay
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 1:33 PM
To: RBW Owners Bunch 
Subject: [RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

...speaking of getting fancy wheels on the cheap, I had been watching some HED 
tubulars really cheap on eBay and finally pulled the trigger.  They are now 
installed on my Legolas, so we can start our Rivendells with tubulars thread.

BL in EC
On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:58:10 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:
Whatever gets you riding it.  Carbon rims are "invisible" if they have a decent 
braking surface, as those appear to have.  I think it's fun.  Grant poked fun 
at the 20-spoke front wheel on my new Roadeo.  Those wheels are definitely ugly 
but ugly gets you a good price sometimes.  Lean into it and you can make ugly 
work for you.  You've got a very very good shade of green to counterbalance the 
wheels.

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:
I'll give lots more background on the backstory and handwringing that led to 
this if you want, but long story short: I scored a mismatched (different eras, 
different materials, different depths) set of Zipp wheels extremely cheaply 
recently and decided to turn my Bosco'd 650b conversion Riv Road back into a 
road bike set up for road riding. Pairing the wheels with some on-sale Vittoria 
Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made the bike smoother than with 650b x 42 GravelKings 
and loads faster. Is it an abomination? Heresy? Who knows? Who cares? It's fun, 
lighter and I'm enjoying the set up for now (though I may need a larger 
chainring now...)

Enjoy (or not):

[https://groups.google.com/u/1/group/rbw-owners-bunch/attach/2c40bafb6a730/IMG_8312.JPG?part=0.1=1]

Best,
Eric
Indpls
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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

2024-03-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
...speaking of getting fancy wheels on the cheap, I had been watching some 
HED tubulars really cheap on eBay and finally pulled the trigger.  They are 
now installed on my Legolas, so we can start our Rivendells with tubulars 
thread.  

BL in EC

On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 9:58:10 AM UTC-7 Bill Lindsay wrote:

> Whatever gets you riding it.  Carbon rims are "invisible" if they have a 
> decent braking surface, as those appear to have.  I think it's fun.  Grant 
> poked fun at the 20-spoke front wheel on my new Roadeo.  Those wheels are 
> definitely ugly but ugly gets you a good price sometimes.  Lean into it and 
> you can make ugly work for you.  You've got a very very good shade of green 
> to counterbalance the wheels.  
>
> Bill Lindsay
> El Cerrito, CA
> On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:
>
>> I'll give lots more background on the backstory and handwringing that led 
>> to this if you want, but long story short: I scored a mismatched (different 
>> eras, different materials, different depths) set of Zipp wheels extremely 
>> cheaply recently and decided to turn my Bosco'd 650b conversion Riv Road 
>> back into a road bike set up for road riding. Pairing the wheels with some 
>> on-sale Vittoria Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made the bike smoother than with 
>> 650b x 42 GravelKings and loads faster. Is it an abomination? Heresy? Who 
>> knows? Who cares? It's fun, lighter and I'm enjoying the set up for now 
>> (though I may need a larger chainring now...)
>>
>> Enjoy (or not):
>>
>> [image: IMG_8312.JPG]
>>
>> Best,
>> Eric 
>> Indpls
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Abomination? Riv Road "upgrades"

2024-03-18 Thread Bill Lindsay
Whatever gets you riding it.  Carbon rims are "invisible" if they have a 
decent braking surface, as those appear to have.  I think it's fun.  Grant 
poked fun at the 20-spoke front wheel on my new Roadeo.  Those wheels are 
definitely ugly but ugly gets you a good price sometimes.  Lean into it and 
you can make ugly work for you.  You've got a very very good shade of green 
to counterbalance the wheels.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA
On Monday, March 18, 2024 at 7:57:32 AM UTC-7 EGNolan wrote:

> I'll give lots more background on the backstory and handwringing that led 
> to this if you want, but long story short: I scored a mismatched (different 
> eras, different materials, different depths) set of Zipp wheels extremely 
> cheaply recently and decided to turn my Bosco'd 650b conversion Riv Road 
> back into a road bike set up for road riding. Pairing the wheels with some 
> on-sale Vittoria Corsa G2.0 in 32 width made the bike smoother than with 
> 650b x 42 GravelKings and loads faster. Is it an abomination? Heresy? Who 
> knows? Who cares? It's fun, lighter and I'm enjoying the set up for now 
> (though I may need a larger chainring now...)
>
> Enjoy (or not):
>
> [image: IMG_8312.JPG]
>
> Best,
> Eric 
> Indpls
>

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