Re: [RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[ascpgh]

Patrick, Look back at  my pictures. the real beauty of the Pauls is how 
they don't close up the clearance as they actuate under use like those ding 
dang Shimano grouplesss "long reach" calipers did. Fenders rattled like a 
maracas under braking. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 2:18:13 PM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Mark and others: I've been toying with a similar idea, replacing the 
> calipers with cantis on my 2003 custom for better fender clearance. The 
> calipers *are* 7400 Dura Aces, and they clear fenders as well as any 
> other caliper that I can think of, except perhaps some of the old, cheap 
> Weinmanns.
>
> But perhaps Mafac or Paul or Compass centerpulls will give all the 
> clearance that crown and bridge allow, so that cantis, and the cost and 
> hassle of adding bosses, aren't needed? Can anyone say?
>
> Thanks, Patrick
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:28 PM, Mark Schneider  > wrote:
>
>> I had a similar issue with my Homer. To get more clearance for fenders 
>> with wider tires I found a very clean set of Mafac Raids, and put them  on 
>> my Homer, they work very well. Compass make centerpulls that are very 
>> similar to the Raids but $$$. Paul Components Racer's  are also very nice 
>> with reach between 559's and the Raids. So yes I would consider 
>> centerpulls. I got my Raids for around 60$ on EBay, but it took a while. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote:
>>
>>> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
>>> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
>>> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
>>> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
>>> current setup won't allow it.
>>>
>>> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
>>> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
>>> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
>>> switch to 650b.
>>>
>>> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different 
>>> frame and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on 
>>> what I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go 
>>> bigger than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and 
>>> just need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>>>
>>> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com .
>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
> Other professional writing services.
> http://www.resumespecialties.com/
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique
> **
> **
> *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?*
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[ascpgh]

Jeremy, I had the Honjo H-27 (36mm per Alex's Cycles) hammered fenders from 
a lister over 28s and the Shimano dual pivot "long reach" calipers to 
start. 

Then I added a pair of Stampede Pass ELs and a dent from a tri-dork who 
rear ended me in urban traffic while on the aero bars. it was enough of a 
tweak I had to replace them and went the long ones from Compass in 40 mm 
width, the H-50. My old front one had been bodged to be clear and sort of 
rattle free from the caliper, except not while braking ironically. That 
really nailed the need for the Paul Racers as well.

Now I am free and clear of all fender and caliper concerns within the 
clearances of my frame, stop like a demon and with an added mudflap up 
front have ridden 80 miles in the rain on a rail trail with zero trashing 
of the drivetrain. It's a very good situation and encourages more frequent 
use. 

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh

On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 1:14:28 PM UTC-4, Jeremy Till wrote:
>
> Andy, what fenders are you using on your ram with the Stampede Passes?  I 
> just picked up a Ram that is running 28's (Ruffy Tuffy) with super narrow 
> (35mm?) hammered Honjos and Shimano sidepulls, and I definitely couldn't go 
> any wider with the current setup, but like I'll of us I'm contemplating 
> what a switch to centerpulls and wider fenders would let me get away with.  
> I'd want to stick with hammered fenders though, since they just look so 
> right on the current setup!
>
> On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 1:51:47 AM UTC-7, ascpgh wrote:
>>
>> I put Paul Racers on my Ram and use Stampede Pass 700 x 32 tires under 
>> fender with clearance.
>>
>>
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>
>> If you notice, the rear bridge area is not pearl orange, that was due to 
>> it needing to be rebreed this spring. I had it put right back where it was 
>> instead of monkeying with any change in clearance. The chain stay bridge is 
>> of the same clearance and works well as is. Without decals I couldn't do a 
>> true repaint so I just did a panel. I have a real fix on the way.
>>
>>
>> As for going to bigger tires (removing fenders), I'd read enough about 
>> changes of handling when riding beyond 32mm tires that I stayed right there 
>> with the Stampede Passes. 
>>
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>>
>> Pittsburgh
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:37:57 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>>>
>>> Another question: should I maybe consider center pulls?
>>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Tim Gavin]

Patrick-

The Paul Racer M (Medium) would be the correct reach (47-57 mm) for your
frame.

https://www.rivbike.com/collections/braking/products/brakes-centerpull-paul-racer-medium

Paul and Modern Bike in Des Moines sell them by the caliper, so you could
just get a rear one for the problem area.

You'd need a cable hanger as well.
https://www.rivbike.com/collections/braking/products/nitto-brake-hangers-key-fob
.


Just something to think about, maybe next time you install fenders.

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 11:48 AM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Thanks, Tim. So I'll not worry any more about cantilevers, unless I take
> the deep plunge and send the frame in to have the seatstay bridge raised a
> bit.
>
> I was using a very nice medium-reach dual pivot -- one of the models Riv
> sells -- and the arms interfered grossly with the fenders whenever I
> applied the brakes; tried denting the fenders to accommodate the arms, and
> just messed up the fenders. Got new fenders and a pair of superlatively
> nice Dura Ace 7400 calipers; and these interfered, but far, far less, and a
> little, discrete dent or 2 fixed that. But really, the frame needs a higher
> rear bridge to really make the bike fender-perfect.
>
> I'd consider the Paul or Compass centerpulls, but (1) the DAs now work
> fine with the fenders "adjusted", and (2) they have too much reach, as this
> frame was built for slightly less than 57 mm pad reach. And I know enough
> about Mafac Racers to judge that they'd not add enough benefit to make it
> worth swapping out the DA calipers.
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 7:26 AM, Tim Gavin  > wrote:
>
>> Patrick-
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>> Centerpulls have more clearance at the bridge/crown than sidepull
>> brakes.  Especially dual-pivot sidepulls, which intrude on the fender space
>> when opened.  I switched from Tektro R559s to Paul Racers on my Riv Road
>> 650b because the R559 kept bending the front fender.
>>
>> You'd have to measure the reach of your brake setup, but "medium" reach
>> centerpulls like Paul Racer Ms, Weinmann/DC 610s, or vintage MAFAC Racers
>> would probably fit.
>> "Long" reach centerpulls like Paul Racers, Compass, Weinmann/DC 750s, and
>> MAFAC RAIDs would probably have too much reach.
>>
>> Centerpulls with stiffer arms (Compass and Paul) give the most confident
>> braking feel, but most can be made satisfactory with some fresh cables and
>> KoolStop pads.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Patrick Moore 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Mark and others: I've been toying with a similar idea, replacing the
>>> calipers with cantis on my 2003 custom for better fender clearance. The
>>> calipers *are* 7400 Dura Aces, and they clear fenders as well as any
>>> other caliper that I can think of, except perhaps some of the old, cheap
>>> Weinmanns.
>>>
>>> But perhaps Mafac or Paul or Compass centerpulls will give all the
>>> clearance that crown and bridge allow, so that cantis, and the cost and
>>> hassle of adding bosses, aren't needed? Can anyone say?
>>>
>>> Thanks, Patrick
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:28 PM, Mark Schneider 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I had a similar issue with my Homer. To get more clearance for fenders
 with wider tires I found a very clean set of Mafac Raids, and put them  on
 my Homer, they work very well. Compass make centerpulls that are very
 similar to the Raids but $$$. Paul Components Racer's  are also very nice
 with reach between 559's and the Raids. So yes I would consider
 centerpulls. I got my Raids for around 60$ on EBay, but it took a while.

 On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote:

> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right.
> I'm currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this
> weekend's wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want
> bigger tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but 
> the
> current setup won't allow it.
>
> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37
> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts,
> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even
> switch to 650b.
>
> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different
> frame and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on
> what I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go
> bigger than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and
> just need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>
> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>
 --
 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
 Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
 To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
 an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
 To post to this group, send email to 

Re: [RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Mark Schneider]

Mafac Raid, or their modern version offered by Compass offer the most reach 
and clearance. Pauls are easier to set up IMO, they all have very good 
stopping power and the salmon pads are available for all. That said, if you 
were going to paint your frame there are some great options with canti 
bosses. Paul Mini-Motos are fantastic brakes and Compass sells some modern 
Rene Herse Cantilever brakes which look very cool and are very light.

On Saturday, August 18, 2018 at 11:18:13 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Mark and others: I've been toying with a similar idea, replacing the 
> calipers with cantis on my 2003 custom for better fender clearance. The 
> calipers *are* 7400 Dura Aces, and they clear fenders as well as any 
> other caliper that I can think of, except perhaps some of the old, cheap 
> Weinmanns.
>
> But perhaps Mafac or Paul or Compass centerpulls will give all the 
> clearance that crown and bridge allow, so that cantis, and the cost and 
> hassle of adding bosses, aren't needed? Can anyone say?
>
> Thanks, Patrick
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:28 PM, Mark Schneider  > wrote:
>
>> I had a similar issue with my Homer. To get more clearance for fenders 
>> with wider tires I found a very clean set of Mafac Raids, and put them  on 
>> my Homer, they work very well. Compass make centerpulls that are very 
>> similar to the Raids but $$$. Paul Components Racer's  are also very nice 
>> with reach between 559's and the Raids. So yes I would consider 
>> centerpulls. I got my Raids for around 60$ on EBay, but it took a while. 
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote:
>>
>>> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
>>> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
>>> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
>>> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
>>> current setup won't allow it.
>>>
>>> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
>>> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
>>> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
>>> switch to 650b.
>>>
>>> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different 
>>> frame and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on 
>>> what I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go 
>>> bigger than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and 
>>> just need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>>>
>>> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com .
>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com 
>> .
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
> Other professional writing services.
> http://www.resumespecialties.com/
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique
> **
> **
> *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?*
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Patrick Moore]

Thanks, Tim. So I'll not worry any more about cantilevers, unless I take
the deep plunge and send the frame in to have the seatstay bridge raised a
bit.

I was using a very nice medium-reach dual pivot -- one of the models Riv
sells -- and the arms interfered grossly with the fenders whenever I
applied the brakes; tried denting the fenders to accommodate the arms, and
just messed up the fenders. Got new fenders and a pair of superlatively
nice Dura Ace 7400 calipers; and these interfered, but far, far less, and a
little, discrete dent or 2 fixed that. But really, the frame needs a higher
rear bridge to really make the bike fender-perfect.

I'd consider the Paul or Compass centerpulls, but (1) the DAs now work fine
with the fenders "adjusted", and (2) they have too much reach, as this
frame was built for slightly less than 57 mm pad reach. And I know enough
about Mafac Racers to judge that they'd not add enough benefit to make it
worth swapping out the DA calipers.

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 7:26 AM, Tim Gavin 
wrote:

> Patrick-
>
> Yes.
>
> Centerpulls have more clearance at the bridge/crown than sidepull brakes.
> Especially dual-pivot sidepulls, which intrude on the fender space when
> opened.  I switched from Tektro R559s to Paul Racers on my Riv Road 650b
> because the R559 kept bending the front fender.
>
> You'd have to measure the reach of your brake setup, but "medium" reach
> centerpulls like Paul Racer Ms, Weinmann/DC 610s, or vintage MAFAC Racers
> would probably fit.
> "Long" reach centerpulls like Paul Racers, Compass, Weinmann/DC 750s, and
> MAFAC RAIDs would probably have too much reach.
>
> Centerpulls with stiffer arms (Compass and Paul) give the most confident
> braking feel, but most can be made satisfactory with some fresh cables and
> KoolStop pads.
>
> On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Patrick Moore 
> wrote:
>
>> Mark and others: I've been toying with a similar idea, replacing the
>> calipers with cantis on my 2003 custom for better fender clearance. The
>> calipers *are* 7400 Dura Aces, and they clear fenders as well as any
>> other caliper that I can think of, except perhaps some of the old, cheap
>> Weinmanns.
>>
>> But perhaps Mafac or Paul or Compass centerpulls will give all the
>> clearance that crown and bridge allow, so that cantis, and the cost and
>> hassle of adding bosses, aren't needed? Can anyone say?
>>
>> Thanks, Patrick
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:28 PM, Mark Schneider 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I had a similar issue with my Homer. To get more clearance for fenders
>>> with wider tires I found a very clean set of Mafac Raids, and put them  on
>>> my Homer, they work very well. Compass make centerpulls that are very
>>> similar to the Raids but $$$. Paul Components Racer's  are also very nice
>>> with reach between 559's and the Raids. So yes I would consider
>>> centerpulls. I got my Raids for around 60$ on EBay, but it took a while.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote:
>>>
 Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm
 currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's
 wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger
 tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the
 current setup won't allow it.

 So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37
 tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts,
 which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even
 switch to 650b.

 Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different
 frame and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on
 what I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go
 bigger than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and
 just need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!

 Any and all thoughts welcome.

>>> --
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
>>> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
>>> an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
>> Other professional writing services.
>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/
>> Patrick Moore
>> Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique
>> 
>> 
>> *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?*
>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 

Re: [RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Tim Gavin]

Patrick-

Yes.

Centerpulls have more clearance at the bridge/crown than sidepull brakes.
Especially dual-pivot sidepulls, which intrude on the fender space when
opened.  I switched from Tektro R559s to Paul Racers on my Riv Road 650b
because the R559 kept bending the front fender.

You'd have to measure the reach of your brake setup, but "medium" reach
centerpulls like Paul Racer Ms, Weinmann/DC 610s, or vintage MAFAC Racers
would probably fit.
"Long" reach centerpulls like Paul Racers, Compass, Weinmann/DC 750s, and
MAFAC RAIDs would probably have too much reach.

Centerpulls with stiffer arms (Compass and Paul) give the most confident
braking feel, but most can be made satisfactory with some fresh cables and
KoolStop pads.

On Sat, Aug 18, 2018 at 1:18 PM, Patrick Moore  wrote:

> Mark and others: I've been toying with a similar idea, replacing the
> calipers with cantis on my 2003 custom for better fender clearance. The
> calipers *are* 7400 Dura Aces, and they clear fenders as well as any
> other caliper that I can think of, except perhaps some of the old, cheap
> Weinmanns.
>
> But perhaps Mafac or Paul or Compass centerpulls will give all the
> clearance that crown and bridge allow, so that cantis, and the cost and
> hassle of adding bosses, aren't needed? Can anyone say?
>
> Thanks, Patrick
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:28 PM, Mark Schneider 
> wrote:
>
>> I had a similar issue with my Homer. To get more clearance for fenders
>> with wider tires I found a very clean set of Mafac Raids, and put them  on
>> my Homer, they work very well. Compass make centerpulls that are very
>> similar to the Raids but $$$. Paul Components Racer's  are also very nice
>> with reach between 559's and the Raids. So yes I would consider
>> centerpulls. I got my Raids for around 60$ on EBay, but it took a while.
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote:
>>
>>> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm
>>> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's
>>> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger
>>> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the
>>> current setup won't allow it.
>>>
>>> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37
>>> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts,
>>> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even
>>> switch to 650b.
>>>
>>> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different
>>> frame and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on
>>> what I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go
>>> bigger than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and
>>> just need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>>>
>>> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>>>
>> --
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
>> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
> Other professional writing services.
> http://www.resumespecialties.com/
> Patrick Moore
> Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique
> **
> **
> *Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?*
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Patrick Moore]

Mark and others: I've been toying with a similar idea, replacing the
calipers with cantis on my 2003 custom for better fender clearance. The
calipers *are* 7400 Dura Aces, and they clear fenders as well as any other
caliper that I can think of, except perhaps some of the old, cheap
Weinmanns.

But perhaps Mafac or Paul or Compass centerpulls will give all the
clearance that crown and bridge allow, so that cantis, and the cost and
hassle of adding bosses, aren't needed? Can anyone say?

Thanks, Patrick



On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 7:28 PM, Mark Schneider  wrote:

> I had a similar issue with my Homer. To get more clearance for fenders
> with wider tires I found a very clean set of Mafac Raids, and put them  on
> my Homer, they work very well. Compass make centerpulls that are very
> similar to the Raids but $$$. Paul Components Racer's  are also very nice
> with reach between 559's and the Raids. So yes I would consider
> centerpulls. I got my Raids for around 60$ on EBay, but it took a while.
>
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote:
>
>> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm
>> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's
>> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger
>> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the
>> current setup won't allow it.
>>
>> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37
>> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts,
>> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even
>> switch to 650b.
>>
>> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different
>> frame and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on
>> what I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go
>> bigger than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and
>> just need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>>
>> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>



-- 
Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, bios, and letters that get interviews.
By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
Other professional writing services.
http://www.resumespecialties.com/
Patrick Moore
Alburquerque, New Mexico, Etats Unis d'Amerique
**
**
*Auditis an me ludit amabilis insania?*

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Mark Schneider]

I had a similar issue with my Homer. To get more clearance for fenders with 
wider tires I found a very clean set of Mafac Raids, and put them  on my 
Homer, they work very well. Compass make centerpulls that are very similar 
to the Raids but $$$. Paul Components Racer's  are also very nice with 
reach between 559's and the Raids. So yes I would consider centerpulls. I 
got my Raids for around 60$ on EBay, but it took a while. 

On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote:
>
> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
> current setup won't allow it.
>
> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
> switch to 650b.
>
> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different frame 
> and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on what 
> I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go bigger 
> than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and just 
> need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>
> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Kieran J]

I have an orange Ram and compared to what others have described with 
theirs, it does seem like mine has slightly lower brake and fender bridges 
in the rear. The fork has slightly more clearance, with the pads further 
down in the slots. 

it can really only accommodate 700x30s and fenders in the rear, without 
things really starting to look squished together and starting to rub. I run 
it fenderless with Gen.1 Barlow Pass 700x38 (35.5 actual). I did have it 
set up with 650x42s and 52mm VO fenders briefly, using DC-750 brakes since 
the Tektro R559 would not reach comfortably in front. Braking with the DCs 
really sucked and added a lot of extra cabling and hangers which I found 
annoying. In the end, I much preferred it 700x35, unfendered with R539 
mid-reach brakes, so I switched it back.

KJ
 

On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote:
>
> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
> current setup won't allow it.
>
> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
> switch to 650b.
>
> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different frame 
> and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on what 
> I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go bigger 
> than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and just 
> need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>
> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Jonathan D.]

I am running running JBs with PDW 45 fenders. Just fits on an original Ram. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Justin, Oakland]

Ahhh

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Christopher Cote]

I think it was the other way. The first batch had the brake bridges too high, 
and quality long reach caliper brakes were not easily available at the time. 

I might be wrong, though.

Chris

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Justin, Oakland]

Wasn’t there a batch of rams with low brake bridges that messed with their 
clearances?

-J

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Lum Gim Fong]

Jeremy, SKS P45 fit great over 700 x 28mm tires on blue Rambouillet. Allso for 
650b x 42.
709 x 32 approaches my limits of too close with fenders. I like alot of 
clearance.
Honjo hammered H50 fits front. Haven’t checked rear yet.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Jeremy Till]

Andy, what fenders are you using on your ram with the Stampede Passes?  I 
just picked up a Ram that is running 28's (Ruffy Tuffy) with super narrow 
(35mm?) hammered Honjos and Shimano sidepulls, and I definitely couldn't go 
any wider with the current setup, but like I'll of us I'm contemplating 
what a switch to centerpulls and wider fenders would let me get away with.  
I'd want to stick with hammered fenders though, since they just look so 
right on the current setup!

On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 1:51:47 AM UTC-7, ascpgh wrote:
>
> I put Paul Racers on my Ram and use Stampede Pass 700 x 32 tires under 
> fender with clearance.
>
>
> 
>  
> 
>
> If you notice, the rear bridge area is not pearl orange, that was due to 
> it needing to be rebreed this spring. I had it put right back where it was 
> instead of monkeying with any change in clearance. The chain stay bridge is 
> of the same clearance and works well as is. Without decals I couldn't do a 
> true repaint so I just did a panel. I have a real fix on the way.
>
>
> As for going to bigger tires (removing fenders), I'd read enough about 
> changes of handling when riding beyond 32mm tires that I stayed right there 
> with the Stampede Passes. 
>
>
> Andy Cheatham
>
> Pittsburgh
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:37:57 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>>
>> Another question: should I maybe consider center pulls?
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Bruce Herbitter]

RamBobs

For the win!

My blue 52 has 1 1/2” paselas on and I love the ride.  It’s my casual cruiser 
but is really only a mile or 2 per hour slower than my fastest bike.   Same 
motor on both.  Going to look at those SKS fenders. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 15, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Jock Dewey  wrote:
> 
> Hey, RAMBobs:
> 
> I have Toyo RAM circa 2004 and it fits Compass 32s and SKS P45 Longboards 
> just fine. 
> 
> Will fit 35s as well but that's maybe a little tight for most of you. Doesn't 
> bother me, but 35s seem a bit much for this bicycle.
> 
> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
> 
>> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:33:52 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
>> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
>> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
>> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the current 
>> setup won't allow it.
>> 
>> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 tires, 
>> OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, which 
>> would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even switch to 
>> 650b.
>> 
>> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different frame 
>> and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on what 
>> I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go bigger 
>> than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and just 
>> need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>> 
>> Any and all thoughts welcome.
> 
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the Google 
> Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/rbw-owners-bunch/HG1G7qvQeUg/unsubscribe.
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to 
> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Jock Dewey]

Re: RAM 32 / 35

Forgot to mention, this fit is on Mavic OP. So wider rims probably won't 
affect 32s but maybe 35s.

JD

On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 10:10:16 AM UTC-4, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> Hey, RAMBobs:
>
> I have Toyo RAM circa 2004 and it fits Compass 32s and SKS P45 Longboards 
> just fine. 
>
> Will fit 35s as well but that's maybe a little tight for most of you. 
> Doesn't bother me, but 35s seem a bit much for this bicycle.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:33:52 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>>
>> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
>> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
>> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
>> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
>> current setup won't allow it.
>>
>> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
>> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
>> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
>> switch to 650b.
>>
>> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different 
>> frame and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on 
>> what I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go 
>> bigger than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and 
>> just need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>>
>> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Jock Dewey]

Re: RAM and 32 / 35s

On Wednesday, August 15, 2018 at 10:10:16 AM UTC-4, Jock Dewey wrote:
>
> Hey, RAMBobs:
>
> I have Toyo RAM circa 2004 and it fits Compass 32s and SKS P45 Longboards 
> just fine. 
>
> Will fit 35s as well but that's maybe a little tight for most of you. 
> Doesn't bother me, but 35s seem a bit much for this bicycle.
>
> BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA
>
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:33:52 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>>
>> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
>> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
>> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
>> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
>> current setup won't allow it.
>>
>> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
>> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
>> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
>> switch to 650b.
>>
>> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different 
>> frame and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on 
>> what I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go 
>> bigger than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and 
>> just need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>>
>> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Jock Dewey]

Hey, RAMBobs:

I have Toyo RAM circa 2004 and it fits Compass 32s and SKS P45 Longboards 
just fine. 

Will fit 35s as well but that's maybe a little tight for most of you. 
Doesn't bother me, but 35s seem a bit much for this bicycle.

BEST / Jock Dewey / Athens, GA

On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:33:52 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>
> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
> current setup won't allow it.
>
> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
> switch to 650b.
>
> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different frame 
> and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on what 
> I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go bigger 
> than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and just 
> need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>
> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Lum Gim Fong]

I double plastic shopping bag it in the rain! 
I also have a nice cover that LBS was giving away.
I never wanted to buy a legit cover for fear of tearing or not staying in place 
but I recently saw I think Randijofab makes ond that looks sturdy.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Fullylugged]

Lum:

  Get that bike a decent saddle cover!

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[ascpgh]

I put Paul Racers on my Ram and use Stampede Pass 700 x 32 tires under 
fender with clearance.


 


If you notice, the rear bridge area is not pearl orange, that was due to it 
needing to be rebreed this spring. I had it put right back where it was 
instead of monkeying with any change in clearance. The chain stay bridge is 
of the same clearance and works well as is. Without decals I couldn't do a 
true repaint so I just did a panel. I have a real fix on the way.


As for going to bigger tires (removing fenders), I'd read enough about 
changes of handling when riding beyond 32mm tires that I stayed right there 
with the Stampede Passes. 


Andy Cheatham

Pittsburgh





On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:37:57 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>
> Another question: should I maybe consider center pulls?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Benz, Sunnyvale, CA]

Where does it rub, if you tried putting larger tires? Going from 539 to 559 
changes the reach, but may not magically offer more room for bigger tires. 
I ask this because I suspect your issue is crowding from the bottom side of 
the brake arms. If this is the case, you should consider changing brake 
type (to centerpulls like what others had suggested). If workable, changing 
to centerpulls is much quicker and cheaper than brazing on new cantilever 
bosses.



On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 12:33:52 PM UTC-7, Mike K. wrote:
>
> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
> current setup won't allow it.
>
> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
> switch to 650b.
>
> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different frame 
> and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on what 
> I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go bigger 
> than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and just 
> need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>
> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[iamkeith]

Also remember that the decal sets are all gone.  So, if you wanted to repaint 
after brazing on canti posts, it's not going to say "rambouillet."

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Tommy Patterson]

Anyone converted a Ram to 650b using Paul racers? If so, will it clear a
42mm tire with fenders?

Thanks,
Tommy

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 8:46 PM Leslie  wrote:

> If you switch your 539s out with 559's, you should be able to adjust it
> enough to get the pads to fit 650b's, could go w/ 42's. (That's what I did
> with my Ram:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/8351735340/in/album-72157623199721925/
> )
>
> You could try sidepulls instead, not a bad route, wouldn't require a 650b
> wheelset.
>
> If neither of those float your boat:   I would suggest looking for a
> canti-Rom:  it's almost a Ram, there are some out there w/ canti's, lets
> you run a bigger tire.  I'm running 700cx40 MSO's on mine:
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/16004557507/in/album-72157623199721925/
> (caveat:  it's REALLY close on clearance!  Less than a 40 would be prudent.
> )
>
> Actually, thinking along those lines...   if sidepulls or a 650b swap
> doesn't do it, you might really want to consider a AHH... I know, you said
> you didn't want another frame, but, maybe another frame would work better.
> There's the new ones coming in from elsewhere, or, maybe a used AHH, or, a
> Sam
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:33:52 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>>
>> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm
>> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's
>> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger
>> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the
>> current setup won't allow it.
>>
>> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37
>> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts,
>> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even
>> switch to 650b.
>>
>> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different
>> frame and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on
>> what I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go
>> bigger than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and
>> just need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>>
>> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Leslie]

If you switch your 539s out with 559's, you should be able to adjust it 
enough to get the pads to fit 650b's, could go w/ 42's. (That's what I did 
with my 
Ram: 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/8351735340/in/album-72157623199721925/
 
)

You could try sidepulls instead, not a bad route, wouldn't require a 650b 
wheelset.

If neither of those float your boat:   I would suggest looking for a 
canti-Rom:  it's almost a Ram, there are some out there w/ canti's, lets 
you run a bigger tire.  I'm running 700cx40 MSO's on 
mine:  
https://www.flickr.com/photos/leslie_bright/16004557507/in/album-72157623199721925/
 
(caveat:  it's REALLY close on clearance!  Less than a 40 would be prudent. 
) 

Actually, thinking along those lines...   if sidepulls or a 650b swap 
doesn't do it, you might really want to consider a AHH... I know, you said 
you didn't want another frame, but, maybe another frame would work better.  
There's the new ones coming in from elsewhere, or, maybe a used AHH, or, a 
Sam   



On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:33:52 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>
> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
> current setup won't allow it.
>
> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
> switch to 650b.
>
> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different frame 
> and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on what 
> I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go bigger 
> than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and just 
> need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>
> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Mike K.]

Thanks for the pics. That turned out great. That's probably the way to go. 
Less $, I don't have to go bikeless, and it doesn't permanently alter the 
frame.

On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 2:56:33 PM UTC-5, Lum Gim Fong wrote:
>
> I would at least try 650b before brazing as it is an easily reverse-able 
> experiment, if you have the spare wheels.
>
> But you will need Thinline pads with R559 to reach the braking area of the 
> rim satisfactorily, IME.
> Or those Really long centerpulls Dia Compe makes.
>
> Braking feels fine to me with the R559's.
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[phil k]

Why not grab some Paul Racers. Super good brakes.

On Tuesday, August 14, 2018 at 3:33:52 PM UTC-4, Mike K. wrote:
>
> Gang, I love my blue Ram.  It rides well and it fits me just right. I'm 
> currently rocking some 700c x 32 Panaracer tires, but after this weekend's 
> wet and muddy ride, and with the Ram being my only bike, I want bigger 
> tires, preferably some Barlow Pass or even Gravel King (SK?) but the 
> current setup won't allow it.
>
> So, I could switch from Tektro 539 to 559 and eek out a set of 700x37 
> tires, OR I know a great frame builder who is open to adding canti mounts, 
> which would open up some options for me to go fenders and 38's or even 
> switch to 650b.
>
> Again, I love the Ram, so I don't want to go out and get a different frame 
> and try to tweak the fit, again. So I'm curious: what's your take on what 
> I'm thinking about? Is the rear bridge even tall enough for me to go bigger 
> than 38? is 650b a good fit with the Ram? Or am I freaking nuts and just 
> need to throw some 35's on it, shut up, and keep riding?!
>
> Any and all thoughts welcome.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Lum Gim Fong]

I would at least try 650b before brazing as it is an easily reverse-able 
experiment, if you have the spare wheels.

But you will need Thinline pads with R559 to reach the braking area of the 
rim satisfactorily, IME.
Or those Really long centerpulls Dia Compe makes.

Braking feels fine to me with the R559's.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Tim Gavin]

Center pull brakes would maximize fender/tire clearance without requiring
brazing and paint.

On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Mike K.  wrote:

> Another question: should I maybe consider center pulls?
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "RBW Owners Bunch" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Lum Gim Fong]

Here it is 650b with tons of clearance.
https://www.flickr.com/gp/70237737@N00/zD46Mb

I tried 700 x 32 but fenders too close.
700 x 28 better but fall hazard as I get sub-28mm tires stuck in road 
cracks and crash.
So 32 minimum for me from now on.
or 650b x 42. 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Lum Gim Fong]

I ride my blue 53 Rambouillet 650b with Tektro R559 650b x 42 Compass 
tires. Kool Stp thinline pads for even extra reach for the braking track on 
rim. Same bb height as a 650b Bleriot with 38mm tires, so safe around 
corners . I use 170mm cranks.

No need  for braze-ons. Oodles of clearannce (~1.5-2cm all around tires ) 
with SKS P45 fenders.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[RBW] Re: Adding Canti mounts to a Ram???

[Mike K.]

Another question: should I maybe consider center pulls?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW 
Owners Bunch" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.