Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
...or other 650B Riv -- no responses from anyone about Hetres and fenders on a Sam Hilborne. Specifically interested in the 52 Sam. Rick wrote: Thanks, I am encouraged. Worse case scenario, a worthwhile experiment, and another summer tire to alternate with the Rumpkins. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
Have the Hetres on my Bleriot - awesome tires, nothing faster for gravel and ruff roads. I have the V.O. Zepplins with the Dia-compe 750 center pulls ( these brakes work and look great - a great deal for the price) and I have a V.O. Carrier front rack. It was a little beyond me to install all this properly myself - got a great bike mechanic to do the work and he did a great job. Good clearance with a classic French bike look - I got exactly what I wanted in a bike setup. On Dec 16, 6:15 pm, J. Burkhalter burk...@yahoo.com wrote: Hey Rick, Sorry, no experience with sidepulls, but I run Hetres on my Bleriot with Paul Centerpull brakes. Gobs of clearance for fenders. Right now I have 26 x 50 SKS fenders (which are wy wider than 50mm, BTW) on there. -Jay Denver, CO On Dec 16, 1:31 pm, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been thinking of this for the Bleriot, can I add a factor to the equation? Anyone w/ 50mm Berthouds or Honjos, Hetres, and sidepulls? Gino, your Saluki has/had (very nice looking) Bruce Gordon brakes on the flicker page. Rick. On Dec 16, 1:13 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo. Its very tight under 50mm Honjos. I'll post photos tomorrow - I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down to give the tire a hug. I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work better in that regard. I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to do surgery at the chainstays. Because there isn't much clearance (less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't think big honking fenders would work as well. More tomorrow... On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/ But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :) -nathan On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but recently upped them to the 50mm. -gino On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the Honjos. Anyone have any experience? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
Thanks, I am encouraged. Worse case scenario, a worthwhile experiment, and another summer tire to alternate with the Rumpkins. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
I've been thinking of this for the Bleriot, can I add a factor to the equation? Anyone w/ 50mm Berthouds or Honjos, Hetres, and sidepulls? Gino, your Saluki has/had (very nice looking) Bruce Gordon brakes on the flicker page. Rick. On Dec 16, 1:13 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo. Its very tight under 50mm Honjos. I'll post photos tomorrow - I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down to give the tire a hug. I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work better in that regard. I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to do surgery at the chainstays. Because there isn't much clearance (less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't think big honking fenders would work as well. More tomorrow... On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/ But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :) -nathan On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but recently upped them to the 50mm. -gino On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the Honjos. Anyone have any experience? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
My Bleriot has the 45mm Honjos + CDLV tires. Plenty of room with that setup, but I haven't bothered to try sticking Hetres in there. Bleriot (old setup, but with fender/tire combo described above): http://www.flickr.com/photos/gzahnd/502655983/sizes/l/in/set-7215763542699/ On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 10:31 AM, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been thinking of this for the Bleriot, can I add a factor to the equation? Anyone w/ 50mm Berthouds or Honjos, Hetres, and sidepulls? Gino, your Saluki has/had (very nice looking) Bruce Gordon brakes on the flicker page. Rick. On Dec 16, 1:13 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo. Its very tight under 50mm Honjos. I'll post photos tomorrow - I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down to give the tire a hug. I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work better in that regard. I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to do surgery at the chainstays. Because there isn't much clearance (less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't think big honking fenders would work as well. More tomorrow... On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/ But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :) -nathan On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but recently upped them to the 50mm. -gino On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the Honjos. Anyone have any experience? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp:// groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comrbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
Hey Rick, Sorry, no experience with sidepulls, but I run Hetres on my Bleriot with Paul Centerpull brakes. Gobs of clearance for fenders. Right now I have 26 x 50 SKS fenders (which are wy wider than 50mm, BTW) on there. -Jay Denver, CO On Dec 16, 1:31 pm, Rick richardholc...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been thinking of this for the Bleriot, can I add a factor to the equation? Anyone w/ 50mm Berthouds or Honjos, Hetres, and sidepulls? Gino, your Saluki has/had (very nice looking) Bruce Gordon brakes on the flicker page. Rick. On Dec 16, 1:13 am, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo. Its very tight under 50mm Honjos. I'll post photos tomorrow - I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down to give the tire a hug. I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work better in that regard. I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to do surgery at the chainstays. Because there isn't much clearance (less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't think big honking fenders would work as well. More tomorrow... On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/ But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :) -nathan On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but recently upped them to the 50mm. -gino On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the Honjos. Anyone have any experience? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en .- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
I tried with a Bleriot and Saluki (50mm Berthouds). Front fits fine. Rear does not (brake bridge won't allow enough clearance). I second the Zeppelins. Ryan II On Dec 15, 11:11 am, rswat...@me.com rswat...@me.com wrote: On Dec 15, 2009, at 11:55 AM, Esteban wrote: I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the Honjos. Anyone have any experience? Not on a Rivendell, but: http://www.flickr.com/photos/7556...@n06/1908661660/ Note that there is a 60mm Berthoud as well. And the 58mm Honjos from BQ. My first choice for the Hetre is the Velo-Orange Zeppelin 52mm. Nicely made, good looking, cheap enough, and the fit is perfect. I'm told the 58mm Honjos are even perfecter, but I'm completely happy with the Zeppelins. Cheers, Ryan PS: Esteban, let me know about that fork. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 11:35 -0800, rcnute wrote: I tried with a Bleriot and Saluki (50mm Berthouds). Front fits fine. Rear does not (brake bridge won't allow enough clearance). Perhaps the size of the frame matters. On my 60cm Saluki, Hetres fit fine. I'm using 57mm Honjos with them. I had stainless 50mm Berthouds, but I thought the clearance with those fenders was insufficient -- and besides, I had another P/R coming, and I wanted to use the Berthouds on that bike. I had to modify the Honjos to get them to fit between the chainstays. Photos here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157617915097787/show/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
I have 50mm fluted Honjos on the bike now, and the fender line is perfect with CdlVs: http://www.flickr.com/photos/25671...@n02/4156647923/ The Protovelo is a custom from Mark Nobilette, built to resemble the geometry of a Saluki, but its different in small ways (lugs) and maybe larger ways (the seat stay bridge looks rather low to me). Of course, this bike is a great candidate for the Pari-Moto, which I have on order. But wouldn't it be fun to run some fatter Hetres in there!? I have them, and Im going to see if they fit - if not they'll go on another bike. Maybe I'll have to buy another bike to fit them :) Here's where they say 50mm Berthouds are preferable on the Herse site: http://www.renehersestore.com/servlet/the-144/Berthoud-650b-x-50mm/Detail But, of course, their bikes are built for the Hetre. Esteban San Diego, Calif. On Dec 15, 12:50 pm, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-12-15 at 11:35 -0800, rcnute wrote: I tried with a Bleriot and Saluki (50mm Berthouds). Front fits fine. Rear does not (brake bridge won't allow enough clearance). Perhaps the size of the frame matters. On my 60cm Saluki, Hetres fit fine. I'm using 57mm Honjos with them. I had stainless 50mm Berthouds, but I thought the clearance with those fenders was insufficient -- and besides, I had another P/R coming, and I wanted to use the Berthouds on that bike. I had to modify the Honjos to get them to fit between the chainstays. Photos here:http://www.flickr.com/photos/97916...@n00/sets/72157617915097787/show/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Anyone running Hetres + 50mm Berthouds on a Saluki or other 650B Riv?
Well... Hetres just fit on my Protovelo. Its very tight under 50mm Honjos. I'll post photos tomorrow - I have more height than I thought I did - but the Honjos do come down to give the tire a hug. I can see how 50mm Berthounds would work better in that regard. I'd like to keep it to 50mm so I don't have to do surgery at the chainstays. Because there isn't much clearance (less than Gino's Saluki, for sure) on the seatstay bridge, I don't think big honking fenders would work as well. More tomorrow... On Dec 15, 2:09 pm, nathan spindel nath...@gmail.com wrote: You guys are lucky the Rivs have such generous clearance. Last weekend I had to shelve the Hetres on a 650B conversion ('84 58cm Sequoia) in order to add fenders. The VO Zeppelins didn't fit (too wide for the fork), but 45mm Honjos + Col de la Vies did. Fortunately it's still pretty:http://www.flickr.com/photos/natan/4183280562/ But I do miss those ultra cushy 42s! :) -nathan On Dec 15, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Gino Zahnd ginoza...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have experience with the Berthouds, but Hetre + Honjo works just fine on the Saluki. I had 45mm Honjos on the Saluki, but recently upped them to the 50mm. -gino On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:55 AM, Esteban proto...@gmail.com wrote: I was reading over on the Rene Herse site that they like the Berthoud stainless fenders with Hetres because they open wider than the Honjos. Anyone have any experience? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners- bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.