Re: [RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Ryan Fleming]

actually, my old Peugeot PX-10 is my wonderful bike that  does really look 
like a beater with its crappy 40 year-old paint;  it's my stealth bike

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 4:04:24 PM UTC-5, Eric Karnes wrote:
>
> I purchased one of the demo Roadeos earlier this year. 
>
> I'm not a roadie (I was a mountain biker as a kid and have always been 
> more of a bum around for fun / transportation type of bike guy). But I'm 
> also fairly thin and wirey for my height, so I liked the Roadeo's lighter 
> tubing and a bit of forgiveness in the frame. My longer distance frame 
> before the Roadeo was a custom-built Surly Cross Check, which I probably 
> only took it on a total of five or six rides. I know people love them, but 
> between the stout frame, touring wheelset, and short head tube, it was a 
> pretty uncomfortable bike for me.
>
> The Roadeo, on the other hand, has been wonderful. Its ride is smooth and 
> lively (which is a tough combo to find). I actually have it outfitted with 
> VO Porteur bars at the moment. I've just never been able to get into 
> drops...though I'm trying. One thing I've found is that is is much more 
> than simply a dedicated road bike. Mine sees its share of dirt and gravel. 
> And with Jack Browns or 35mm cross tires, it's awesome! I probably don't 
> ride it as much as I should, as most of my rides are city commutes/errands 
> which I do on my SimpleOne (through stickers and highly beusaged parts, I'm 
> creating a wonderful bike that looks like a beater to deter thieves...very 
> much like that old SNL bit for the urban luxury car). 
>
> Eric
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:01:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>>
>> I guess I have sort of the same issue with my 2001 custom Road which is 
>> fenderless right now. I won't commute to work on it because where I work, 
>> there's quite the rogue's gallery of people  lurking around "shopping" for 
>>  bikes and/or parts. But though I'm certainly not a fast clubby rider, I do 
>> enjoy the road bike with the drop bars (Nitto "Dream" bars), especially 
>> with those dreamy TRP levers  and now new to me Compass 32mm extra tires 
>> for longer (up to 50 mile) rides. Anyway, from what I've read, the Roadeo 
>> is , like my old custom, purely a road bike with   the predictable handling 
>> of all Rivs and maybe that's its best intended use...granted it's not gonna 
>> freak out on a little gravel. I would opt for B, but if you feel you don't 
>> ride it enough , you want to commute, you don't have to bring the kitchen 
>> sink with you and you have a secure parking spot, go for A. You have a 
>> beautiful bike there; if you get rid of it, I think you might feel a little 
>> seller's remorse.
>>
>> Myself, I'm not ready to get rid of my road bike yet because it is 
>> fast,comfortable and  light riding (No, I don't know how much it weighs,but 
>> it rides light :) )
>>
>> Ryan Fleming, Winnipeg
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 8:57:19 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>>
>>> I picked up a Roadeo frame from a list member this winter.  It's 
>>> gorgeous, wonderful, and fast.  I built it up using the group from my 
>>> previous gofast, a '97 Giordana Xl-Eco with Sachs New Success 8-speed 
>>> Ergopower.
>>>
>>> The Roadeo is my second Riv; I have a '97 Road Standard that I've turned 
>>> into a 650b rando/touring bike.  So, I promised myself I'd leave the 
>>> fenders and racks off my Roadeo to keep it light.
>>>
>>> The problem is, I don't want to ride the Roadeo if it's raining or 
>>> rained recently since it doesn't have fenders; I don't want to get it (or 
>>> myself) dirty!  I have 4 other fendered bikes.
>>> ​Also, I don't ride it to commute to work because it only has a small 
>>> saddlebag; I can't take my change of clothes.  I have 4 other bikes that 
>>> can easily carry the load.
>>>
>>> I'm not a "roadie" and I don't do club rides; most of my riding is 
>>> commuting in town, riding gravel, trails, or touring.  I didn't ride the 
>>> Giordana much because its 57 cm frame turned out to be too small.  The 59 
>>> cm Roadeo frame solved the size issue, but it hasn't turned me into a 
>>> roadie yet.  :)
>>>
>>> So, I should:
>>> A) Add fenders and a larger saddlebag to the Roadeo so it can be used 
>>> for commuting?
>>> or,
>>> B) Just ride the Roadeo more in its natural habitat (pavement) and take 
>>> a day off from the gravel/trails?
>>>
>>>
>>> ​
>>> This was my initial build.  Since the photo session, I've:
>>> + changed the tires to 32 mm Panaracer Gravel King SKs 
>>>  (from 38 mm Challenge Gravel 
>>> Grinders, spares from another bike)  I'd probably have preferred the slick 
>>> 32 mm GKs, but I found the knobby SKs on sale.
>>> + changed the crank to a Velo Orange Cyclotouriste 46/30 
>>> 
>>>  (from 
>>> the 52/39 Sachs NS/Campy 135 mm BCD crank)
>>> + added a Gilles Berthoud 

Re: [RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Eric Karnes]

I purchased one of the demo Roadeos earlier this year. 

I'm not a roadie (I was a mountain biker as a kid and have always been more 
of a bum around for fun / transportation type of bike guy). But I'm also 
fairly thin and wirey for my height, so I liked the Roadeo's lighter tubing 
and a bit of forgiveness in the frame. My longer distance frame before the 
Roadeo was a custom-built Surly Cross Check, which I probably only took it 
on a total of five or six rides. I know people love them, but between the 
stout frame, touring wheelset, and short head tube, it was a pretty 
uncomfortable bike for me.

The Roadeo, on the other hand, has been wonderful. Its ride is smooth and 
lively (which is a tough combo to find). I actually have it outfitted with 
VO Porteur bars at the moment. I've just never been able to get into 
drops...though I'm trying. One thing I've found is that is is much more 
than simply a dedicated road bike. Mine sees its share of dirt and gravel. 
And with Jack Browns or 35mm cross tires, it's awesome! I probably don't 
ride it as much as I should, as most of my rides are city commutes/errands 
which I do on my SimpleOne (through stickers and highly beusaged parts, I'm 
creating a wonderful bike that looks like a beater to deter thieves...very 
much like that old SNL bit for the urban luxury car). 

Eric

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:01:44 PM UTC-4, Ryan Fleming wrote:
>
> I guess I have sort of the same issue with my 2001 custom Road which is 
> fenderless right now. I won't commute to work on it because where I work, 
> there's quite the rogue's gallery of people  lurking around "shopping" for 
>  bikes and/or parts. But though I'm certainly not a fast clubby rider, I do 
> enjoy the road bike with the drop bars (Nitto "Dream" bars), especially 
> with those dreamy TRP levers  and now new to me Compass 32mm extra tires 
> for longer (up to 50 mile) rides. Anyway, from what I've read, the Roadeo 
> is , like my old custom, purely a road bike with   the predictable handling 
> of all Rivs and maybe that's its best intended use...granted it's not gonna 
> freak out on a little gravel. I would opt for B, but if you feel you don't 
> ride it enough , you want to commute, you don't have to bring the kitchen 
> sink with you and you have a secure parking spot, go for A. You have a 
> beautiful bike there; if you get rid of it, I think you might feel a little 
> seller's remorse.
>
> Myself, I'm not ready to get rid of my road bike yet because it is 
> fast,comfortable and  light riding (No, I don't know how much it weighs,but 
> it rides light :) )
>
> Ryan Fleming, Winnipeg
>
> On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 8:57:19 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>>
>> I picked up a Roadeo frame from a list member this winter.  It's 
>> gorgeous, wonderful, and fast.  I built it up using the group from my 
>> previous gofast, a '97 Giordana Xl-Eco with Sachs New Success 8-speed 
>> Ergopower.
>>
>> The Roadeo is my second Riv; I have a '97 Road Standard that I've turned 
>> into a 650b rando/touring bike.  So, I promised myself I'd leave the 
>> fenders and racks off my Roadeo to keep it light.
>>
>> The problem is, I don't want to ride the Roadeo if it's raining or rained 
>> recently since it doesn't have fenders; I don't want to get it (or myself) 
>> dirty!  I have 4 other fendered bikes.
>> ​Also, I don't ride it to commute to work because it only has a small 
>> saddlebag; I can't take my change of clothes.  I have 4 other bikes that 
>> can easily carry the load.
>>
>> I'm not a "roadie" and I don't do club rides; most of my riding is 
>> commuting in town, riding gravel, trails, or touring.  I didn't ride the 
>> Giordana much because its 57 cm frame turned out to be too small.  The 59 
>> cm Roadeo frame solved the size issue, but it hasn't turned me into a 
>> roadie yet.  :)
>>
>> So, I should:
>> A) Add fenders and a larger saddlebag to the Roadeo so it can be used for 
>> commuting?
>> or,
>> B) Just ride the Roadeo more in its natural habitat (pavement) and take a 
>> day off from the gravel/trails?
>>
>>
>> ​
>> This was my initial build.  Since the photo session, I've:
>> + changed the tires to 32 mm Panaracer Gravel King SKs 
>>  (from 38 mm Challenge Gravel 
>> Grinders, spares from another bike)  I'd probably have preferred the slick 
>> 32 mm GKs, but I found the knobby SKs on sale.
>> + changed the crank to a Velo Orange Cyclotouriste 46/30 
>> 
>>  (from 
>> the 52/39 Sachs NS/Campy 135 mm BCD crank)
>> + added a Gilles Berthoud 786 saddle bag, in matchy matchy dark grey 
>> 
>>  
>> (purchased from a listmember).
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tim
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Nick Ybarra  wrote:
>>
>>> Don, I believe I've got one of 

[RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[LBleriot]

I bought my Roadeo after my first orange Ram was smooshed (with me on it) 
by a careless driver.  It's so nice that I keep it for fast Sunday rides. 
 My everyday rides are on a replacement orange Ram and the proto Rom.  I 
run all of them on Compass 30-32 tires and slightly different drive trains 
and cockpits just to mix it up a bit.  All three are the bees' knees of 
road bikes.

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:47:52 AM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my main 
> and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am a 
> roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike they 
> could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the Berkeley 
> hills.
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Patrick Moore]

FWIW, but from my own experience with Kojaks and the BQ tests on the R
Tuffys, you might want to consider a Compass tire for something a bit
narrower. IME, the Kojaks roll pretty well, and I'm not sure the RTs would
be an improvement.

*And,* the Kojaks are very flat resistant for the quality of their ride.

This in accord with my own personal tastes, of course

On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 7:25 AM, Nick Ybarra  wrote:


> I'm running the 700x35c Kojaks it came with, but am thinking of switching
> to some slightly skinnier Compass tires or even some Ruffy Tuffys (I too am
> a roadie and only weigh 140lbs).  But yeah, with 44cm Noodles, the feel of
> the bike is so, so comfortable.
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Daniel D.]

oh man that's a beauty.  Since you have a stable I vote for as is.

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 6:57:19 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> B) Just ride the Roadeo more in its natural habitat (pavement) and take a 
> day off from the gravel/trails?
>
>
> ​
> This was my initial build.  Since the photo session, I've:
> + changed the tires to 32 mm Panaracer Gravel King SKs 
>  (from 38 mm Challenge Gravel 
> Grinders, spares from another bike)  I'd probably have preferred the slick 
> 32 mm GKs, but I found the knobby SKs on sale.
> + changed the crank to a Velo Orange Cyclotouriste 46/30 
> 
>  (from 
> the 52/39 Sachs NS/Campy 135 mm BCD crank)
> + added a Gilles Berthoud 786 saddle bag, in matchy matchy dark grey 
> 
>  
> (purchased from a listmember).
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Nick Ybarra  > wrote:
>
>> Don, I believe I've got one of your old Roadeos, actually -- recently 
>> acquired by way of Bruce S -- and I'm loving it so far.  Currently, I'm 
>> running the 700x35c Kojaks it came with, but am thinking of switching to 
>> some slightly skinnier Compass tires or even some Ruffy Tuffys (I too am a 
>> roadie and only weigh 140lbs).  But yeah, with 44cm Noodles, the feel of 
>> the bike is so, so comfortable.  
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 11:47:52 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my 
>>> main and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am 
>>> a roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
>>> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike 
>>> they could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the 
>>> Berkeley hills.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Ryan Fleming]

I guess I have sort of the same issue with my 2001 custom Road which is 
fenderless right now. I won't commute to work on it because where I work, 
there's quite the rogue's gallery of people  lurking around "shopping" for 
 bikes and/or parts. But though I'm certainly not a fast clubby rider, I do 
enjoy the road bike with the drop bars (Nitto "Dream" bars), especially 
with those dreamy TRP levers  and now new to me Compass 32mm extra tires 
for longer (up to 50 mile) rides. Anyway, from what I've read, the Roadeo 
is , like my old custom, purely a road bike with   the predictable handling 
of all Rivs and maybe that's its best intended use...granted it's not gonna 
freak out on a little gravel. I would opt for B, but if you feel you don't 
ride it enough , you want to commute, you don't have to bring the kitchen 
sink with you and you have a secure parking spot, go for A. You have a 
beautiful bike there; if you get rid of it, I think you might feel a little 
seller's remorse.

Myself, I'm not ready to get rid of my road bike yet because it is 
fast,comfortable and  light riding (No, I don't know how much it weighs,but 
it rides light :) )

Ryan Fleming, Winnipeg

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 8:57:19 AM UTC-5, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I picked up a Roadeo frame from a list member this winter.  It's gorgeous, 
> wonderful, and fast.  I built it up using the group from my previous 
> gofast, a '97 Giordana Xl-Eco with Sachs New Success 8-speed Ergopower.
>
> The Roadeo is my second Riv; I have a '97 Road Standard that I've turned 
> into a 650b rando/touring bike.  So, I promised myself I'd leave the 
> fenders and racks off my Roadeo to keep it light.
>
> The problem is, I don't want to ride the Roadeo if it's raining or rained 
> recently since it doesn't have fenders; I don't want to get it (or myself) 
> dirty!  I have 4 other fendered bikes.
> ​Also, I don't ride it to commute to work because it only has a small 
> saddlebag; I can't take my change of clothes.  I have 4 other bikes that 
> can easily carry the load.
>
> I'm not a "roadie" and I don't do club rides; most of my riding is 
> commuting in town, riding gravel, trails, or touring.  I didn't ride the 
> Giordana much because its 57 cm frame turned out to be too small.  The 59 
> cm Roadeo frame solved the size issue, but it hasn't turned me into a 
> roadie yet.  :)
>
> So, I should:
> A) Add fenders and a larger saddlebag to the Roadeo so it can be used for 
> commuting?
> or,
> B) Just ride the Roadeo more in its natural habitat (pavement) and take a 
> day off from the gravel/trails?
>
>
> ​
> This was my initial build.  Since the photo session, I've:
> + changed the tires to 32 mm Panaracer Gravel King SKs 
>  (from 38 mm Challenge Gravel 
> Grinders, spares from another bike)  I'd probably have preferred the slick 
> 32 mm GKs, but I found the knobby SKs on sale.
> + changed the crank to a Velo Orange Cyclotouriste 46/30 
> 
>  (from 
> the 52/39 Sachs NS/Campy 135 mm BCD crank)
> + added a Gilles Berthoud 786 saddle bag, in matchy matchy dark grey 
> 
>  
> (purchased from a listmember).
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Nick Ybarra  > wrote:
>
>> Don, I believe I've got one of your old Roadeos, actually -- recently 
>> acquired by way of Bruce S -- and I'm loving it so far.  Currently, I'm 
>> running the 700x35c Kojaks it came with, but am thinking of switching to 
>> some slightly skinnier Compass tires or even some Ruffy Tuffys (I too am a 
>> roadie and only weigh 140lbs).  But yeah, with 44cm Noodles, the feel of 
>> the bike is so, so comfortable.  
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 11:47:52 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my 
>>> main and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am 
>>> a roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
>>> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike 
>>> they could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the 
>>> Berkeley hills.
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Brian Campbell]

Add a set of lighter, alloy fenders, saddle bag of your choice and sell off 
bikes that duplicate. I have my 61cm AHH down to 24.9lbs with fenders, 
lights, dyno hub and fenders. I am using 38mm tires. It is light enough to 
feel fast and not overly heavy while climbing. The fenders and lights make 
it super practical ( I ride to work on it) and I can add a larger saddle 
bag or rack if need be. The 24.9  weight does not include a saddle bag but 
does include pedals/bottle cages and empty water bottles. No ti & no carbon 
were used either. 

Weight is not really the primary concern for me but I had the bike 
configured differently  and it weighed about 6lbs more, felt sluggish to me 
and I felt the handling was suffering due to a heavy front handlebar bag. 
It is no less useful in its current configuration and is so enjoyable to 
ride, I sold off the two other road bikes I had. No need for them when only 
one gets picked when its time to ride

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 9:57:19 AM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:

> I picked up a Roadeo frame from a list member this winter.  It's gorgeous, 
> wonderful, and fast.  I built it up using the group from my previous 
> gofast, a '97 Giordana Xl-Eco with Sachs New Success 8-speed Ergopower.
>
> The Roadeo is my second Riv; I have a '97 Road Standard that I've turned 
> into a 650b rando/touring bike.  So, I promised myself I'd leave the 
> fenders and racks off my Roadeo to keep it light.
>
> The problem is, I don't want to ride the Roadeo if it's raining or rained 
> recently since it doesn't have fenders; I don't want to get it (or myself) 
> dirty!  I have 4 other fendered bikes.
> ​Also, I don't ride it to commute to work because it only has a small 
> saddlebag; I can't take my change of clothes.  I have 4 other bikes that 
> can easily carry the load.
>
> I'm not a "roadie" and I don't do club rides; most of my riding is 
> commuting in town, riding gravel, trails, or touring.  I didn't ride the 
> Giordana much because its 57 cm frame turned out to be too small.  The 59 
> cm Roadeo frame solved the size issue, but it hasn't turned me into a 
> roadie yet.  :)
>
> So, I should:
> A) Add fenders and a larger saddlebag to the Roadeo so it can be used for 
> commuting?
> or,
> B) Just ride the Roadeo more in its natural habitat (pavement) and take a 
> day off from the gravel/trails?
>
>
> ​
> This was my initial build.  Since the photo session, I've:
> + changed the tires to 32 mm Panaracer Gravel King SKs 
>  (from 38 mm Challenge Gravel 
> Grinders, spares from another bike)  I'd probably have preferred the slick 
> 32 mm GKs, but I found the knobby SKs on sale.
> + changed the crank to a Velo Orange Cyclotouriste 46/30 
> 
>  (from 
> the 52/39 Sachs NS/Campy 135 mm BCD crank)
> + added a Gilles Berthoud 786 saddle bag, in matchy matchy dark grey 
> 
>  
> (purchased from a listmember).
>
> Cheers,
> Tim
>
> On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:25 AM, Nick Ybarra  > wrote:
>
>> Don, I believe I've got one of your old Roadeos, actually -- recently 
>> acquired by way of Bruce S -- and I'm loving it so far.  Currently, I'm 
>> running the 700x35c Kojaks it came with, but am thinking of switching to 
>> some slightly skinnier Compass tires or even some Ruffy Tuffys (I too am a 
>> roadie and only weigh 140lbs).  But yeah, with 44cm Noodles, the feel of 
>> the bike is so, so comfortable.  
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 11:47:52 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>>>
>>> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my 
>>> main and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am 
>>> a roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
>>> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike 
>>> they could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the 
>>> Berkeley hills.
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Grant @ Rivendell]

We sell about 40 a year--laughable by some standards, but it's one a week 
in a teacher's year. (Apologies to teachers who work in the summer). 

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 9:47:52 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my main 
> and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am a 
> roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike they 
> could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the Berkeley 
> hills.
>

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[RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Nick Ybarra]

Don, I believe I've got one of your old Roadeos, actually -- recently 
acquired by way of Bruce S -- and I'm loving it so far.  Currently, I'm 
running the 700x35c Kojaks it came with, but am thinking of switching to 
some slightly skinnier Compass tires or even some Ruffy Tuffys (I too am a 
roadie and only weigh 140lbs).  But yeah, with 44cm Noodles, the feel of 
the bike is so, so comfortable.  

On Monday, July 25, 2016 at 11:47:52 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my main 
> and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am a 
> roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike they 
> could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the Berkeley 
> hills.
>

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[RBW] Re: Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Michael Hechmer]

I don't know about the Rodeo sales but there are a lot of Rambouillets, 
which was the preceding road bike.  I run the 28 mm compass tires on mine 
and agree that it downhills absolutely fabulously.  It's a great bike on 
any not too too rough a surface.  I would add, however that my '84 Trek 
620, which has a nearly identical geometry to the Ram but standard guage 
531c tubes and now runs 38mm parimoto tires  is every bit as good a ride 
and better on bad chip & seal or gravel roads.

Michael

On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 at 12:47:52 AM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my main 
> and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am a 
> roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
> Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike they 
> could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the Berkeley 
> hills.
>

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