[RBW] Re: Beartown Mountain Overnight, Cheviot, Rain, Question

[Clayton.sf]

I run mine with a 11-36t (10 speed)  in the back with a 38t ring up front 
(1x setup). Gets me up most hills with a load around here. I have a 110 bcd 
crank on it, but if I had something with a granny option I would add that 
small ring to it without the front derailer so I'd have a bail out option 
just in case.

Clayton Scott
SF, CA




On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 8:19:19 PM UTC-7, Joe Bernard wrote:
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> The 12-36 with a long cage rear derailer is a good start. Right now you're 
> running the small ring and rear cassette from a race bike, which is a total 
> waste on that lovely frame. See how you're doing with the expanded 
> 1x8-or-9, then you can always change the cranks and add the front derailer 
> back later if you need 2 or 3 rings up front. 

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Re: [RBW] Re: Beartown Mountain Overnight, Cheviot, Rain, Question

[Lee Legrand]

Nice pics Phil. I especially like the one where you riding in the rain.

On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Philip Kim  wrote:

> this looks like a lot of fun!
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> On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 10:14:59 PM UTC-4, Antone Könst wrote:
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>> 718 Cycles  in Brooklyn just led a
>> great overnight 'Micro-tour' to Beartown Mountain Park, MA, which I did on
>> my Cheviot.  It was an s240 if you don't count the 3 hours each way on the
>> train and the 40 minute ride to Grand Central.  Total was about 40 miles
>> each way, so it was more fun than work but I'm not complaining about that.
>>
>> The ride was wonderful, really really fun, with the leaves changing, and
>> accidentally adventurous because I brought a friend who I thought had more
>> riding experience (he'd never changed gears and is developing some serious
>> scar tissue on his chin after attempting a downtube shift while going down
>> a hill pretty fast).The way up was blue skies and we got some surprise
>> trail riding in for a number of miles, which made my Barlow Pass tires
>> worth the $.  On the way home we had pouring rain from 5:30 am straight
>> through, which was actually more fun than on the way up - and it was also
>> pretty much down-hill for ~40 miles.  The rain made me appreciate my
>> Carradice bags, which I hung on a Jandd front (they are rear panniers), and
>> made me appreciate a little less my Sackville Shop sack which became a very
>> useful bucket for my kit to float in, despite folding the zipper down.  I
>> know, it's a California bag, but it was a bucket in NY, CT, and MA this
>> morning :).  I still love it.
>> My Chev was incredible, it was super stable down hills fast (my Paul
>> Racers were not so useful at the bottom of these hills, in the rain), and
>> my fendered tail light and Dlux front light were increidbly useful with the
>> dynamo hub.
>>
>> *My question for you, after the trip* is *how do I add a granny gear?*
>> Right now I'm 1x8 with 34 in front and 11-26 in back, and the steeper hills
>> killed me, especially because I was carrying my friend's gear too.  Do I
>> get a new 12-36 cassette and a Deore XT, or do I get a wide/low crankset
>> and put my front derailleur back on?   I honestly have no idea, I'm new to
>> thinking about the drivetrain creatively.  The randonneuring guys with us
>> seemed very happy with their 3 chainrings, and the people on their 1x9 or
>> 10 set ups also seemed happy, the Rolhoff people didn't recommend it.  So
>> I'm at a loss, please advise!
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[RBW] Re: Beartown Mountain Overnight, Cheviot, Rain, Question

[Philip Kim]

this looks like a lot of fun!

On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 10:14:59 PM UTC-4, Antone Könst wrote:
>
> 718 Cycles  in Brooklyn just led a 
> great overnight 'Micro-tour' to Beartown Mountain Park, MA, which I did on 
> my Cheviot.  It was an s240 if you don't count the 3 hours each way on the 
> train and the 40 minute ride to Grand Central.  Total was about 40 miles 
> each way, so it was more fun than work but I'm not complaining about that. 
>
> The ride was wonderful, really really fun, with the leaves changing, and 
> accidentally adventurous because I brought a friend who I thought had more 
> riding experience (he'd never changed gears and is developing some serious 
> scar tissue on his chin after attempting a downtube shift while going down 
> a hill pretty fast).The way up was blue skies and we got some surprise 
> trail riding in for a number of miles, which made my Barlow Pass tires 
> worth the $.  On the way home we had pouring rain from 5:30 am straight 
> through, which was actually more fun than on the way up - and it was also 
> pretty much down-hill for ~40 miles.  The rain made me appreciate my 
> Carradice bags, which I hung on a Jandd front (they are rear panniers), and 
> made me appreciate a little less my Sackville Shop sack which became a very 
> useful bucket for my kit to float in, despite folding the zipper down.  I 
> know, it's a California bag, but it was a bucket in NY, CT, and MA this 
> morning :).  I still love it. 
> My Chev was incredible, it was super stable down hills fast (my Paul 
> Racers were not so useful at the bottom of these hills, in the rain), and 
> my fendered tail light and Dlux front light were increidbly useful with the 
> dynamo hub.  
>
> *My question for you, after the trip* is *how do I add a granny gear?*  
> Right now I'm 1x8 with 34 in front and 11-26 in back, and the steeper hills 
> killed me, especially because I was carrying my friend's gear too.  Do I 
> get a new 12-36 cassette and a Deore XT, or do I get a wide/low crankset 
> and put my front derailleur back on?   I honestly have no idea, I'm new to 
> thinking about the drivetrain creatively.  The randonneuring guys with us 
> seemed very happy with their 3 chainrings, and the people on their 1x9 or 
> 10 set ups also seemed happy, the Rolhoff people didn't recommend it.  So 
> I'm at a loss, please advise!
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[RBW] Re: Beartown Mountain Overnight, Cheviot, Rain, Question

[Kainalu V.]

What size cranks do you roll?
-Kai 
Up the way

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[RBW] Re: Beartown Mountain Overnight, Cheviot, Rain, Question

[Antone Könst]

It's the only 718 ride I've done, so I'm no expert, but it was really 
great.  Joe was prepared but laid back, the group was convivial and 
diverse, and there was no pressure to go fast or slow.   When my friend 
took a spill, everyone had bandaids for him and no-one had unwanted advice, 
that warmed my heart.   And many people brought food and beer to share.  So 
if it's any indication of a normal ride with them I'd say do it! 

Also going to take Joe's advice and get a 12-36 and XT derailer in the 
short term, and save up for a beautiful new double crankset in the long 
term. 





On Monday, October 30, 2017 at 9:09:05 PM UTC-4, John G. wrote:
>
> Yeah, I’d also like to know more about the vibe of those rides. They sound 
> like fun, but there’s nothing worse than camping with people with different 
> expectations than you. 
>
> And man, I hear ya on the “all good rides are 45 minute train rides away” 
> thing. Makes it much harder to just sneak in a ride.

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[RBW] Re: Beartown Mountain Overnight, Cheviot, Rain, Question

[John G.]

Yeah, I’d also like to know more about the vibe of those rides. They sound like 
fun, but there’s nothing worse than camping with people with different 
expectations than you.

And man, I hear ya on the “all good rides are 45 minute train rides away” 
thing. Makes it much harder to just sneak in a ride.

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[RBW] Re: Beartown Mountain Overnight, Cheviot, Rain, Question

[Bob B]

Cool ride! And cool bike! Boscos!

I've been wondering about those 718 trips. Was it a good bunch? I wish we 
New Yorkers didn't have to get on a train to get to some decent bicycling.

If I were you I would go up to a triple if you wanna do lots more long 
rides like this, but at least a double. Every ride I do upstate I end up 
using all 3 chainrings. I've never had a 1x setup, so I cant speak to what 
you'd be missing out on. Maybe a greater physical challenge? But two or 
three chainrings = convenience!

Bob
Brooklyn, NY


On Sunday, October 29, 2017 at 11:19:19 PM UTC-4, Joe Bernard wrote:
>
> The 12-36 with a long cage rear derailer is a good start. Right now you're 
> running the small ring and rear cassette from a race bike, which is a total 
> waste on that lovely frame. See how you're doing with the expanded 
> 1x8-or-9, then you can always change the cranks and add the front derailer 
> back later if you need 2 or 3 rings up front. 

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