[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

2015-03-31 Thread Hoffsta
I've been riding a B-17 for about ten years and have a Gyes Flyer 
knock-off. I recently tried a Cambium C15 for a few days. It has nice shock 
absorbing qualities but I didn't care for the texture at all. As mentioned 
above, I felt much more chafing action as it grabbed onto my shorts. I also 
found it much more difficult to reposition myself as I've grown accustomed 
to just sliding along smooth leather, the C15 required me to stand up and 
sit back down. I much prefer a smooth leather saddle. In the end, I 
returned the Cambium demo and purchased a Selle Anatomica and it is my new 
favorite saddle ever.

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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

2015-03-30 Thread Arthur Mayfield
I haven't riden a Flyer, but have a B-67 (sprung), B-68 (same wide saddle 
unsprung), B-17, C-17, and C-17 carved, so I may be able to offer 
something... The coil springs on the Flyer/B-67 are at the rear, so they 
compress only when you are sitting back on the saddle, and they are pretty 
stiff.  I've heard some say that they don't respond at all if you weigh 
less than 180 lbs/82kg, but I think that must come from those who ride with 
little of their weight on their sit bones.  In a more typical road 
position, the Cambium, and especially the Cambium carved, will be as 
flexible or more so than the Flyer ridden the same way.  So you really have 
to analyze the way you ride to choose the best saddle for you, and try them 
out if you can.  That said, wider tires with lower pressure will do more to 
absorb road shock than any saddle.  I used to have my B-67 on a Bianchi 
Milano with 26x1.5 tires.  Now the B-67 hangs on the wall and my Bianchi 
rides much better with a B-68 and 26x1.9 tires at 45psi.  On my Sam, I ride 
a C-17 carved and 650bx38mm tires at 55psi.  If Brooks would come out with 
a wider Cambium, I'd replace the B-68 on my Bianchi—I like the Cambium that 
much!

On Sunday, March 29, 2015 at 11:32:58 PM UTC-4, lungimsam wrote:

 If you have used both, does the Cambiums flex reduce road shock as nicely 
 as the sprung Flyer does? I hate road shock, It hurts my back. Interested 
 in Cambium though because of its waterproof-ness.

 I asked Brooks if they were going to have a sprung Cambium, and they said 
 no because the flex properties on the Cambium do the job well.
 Wondered if you all think so.
 Thanks for any info.
 I like that it is not affected by rain like the leather.


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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

2015-03-30 Thread Matthew J
 If Brooks would come out with a wider Cambium, I'd replace the B-68 on my 
Bianchi—I like the Cambium that much!

+1.  Very happy with my two Cambiums.  If a wider model were available I 
would have three.


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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

2015-03-30 Thread Amit Singh
Maybe TMI, maybe a laugh for some, but definitely worth considering: Has 
anyone experienced the Cambium saddle pulling their butt hair? It's 
terribly uncomfortable for me to ride ... I tried two different saddles, 
two different times, two miles each time and it was too unbearable.

On Sunday, 29 March 2015 20:32:58 UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 If you have used both, does the Cambiums flex reduce road shock as nicely 
 as the sprung Flyer does? I hate road shock, It hurts my back. Interested 
 in Cambium though because of its waterproof-ness.

 I asked Brooks if they were going to have a sprung Cambium, and they said 
 no because the flex properties on the Cambium do the job well.
 Wondered if you all think so.
 Thanks for any info.
 I like that it is not affected by rain like the leather.


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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

2015-03-30 Thread Paul G
The differences in material also make a difference in how the saddles feel. 
I think the Cambium is more prone to chafing due to more friction in the 
saddle. I tends to grab clothing more which can rub it against skin while 
pedaling. Leather allows clothing to slide across its surface more reducing 
this effect. The Cambium (non-carved tested) does have a good amount of 
flex and vibration damping though. That aspect is very similar to B17. But 
it seems the pressure against my sit bones is fairly hard and it will never 
improve like a leather saddle.

Since I only weight around 160, I've never tried a Flyer version.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

2015-03-30 Thread 'Norman Bone' via RBW Owners Bunch
Was this during World Naked Bike Ride?
-Norm who has not experienced ass hair yankage with his Cambium in PDX
  From: Amit Singh asd...@gmail.com
 To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com 
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 1:52 PM
 Subject: [RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question
   
Maybe TMI, maybe a laugh for some, but definitely worth considering: Has anyone 
experienced the Cambium saddle pulling their butt hair? It's terribly 
uncomfortable for me to ride ... I tried two different saddles, two different 
times, two miles each time and it was too unbearable.



On Sunday, 29 March 2015 20:32:58 UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:
If you have used both, does the Cambiums flex reduce road shock as nicely as 
the sprung Flyer does? I hate road shock, It hurts my back. Interested in 
Cambium though because of its waterproof-ness.
I asked Brooks if they were going to have a sprung Cambium, and they said no 
because the flex properties on the Cambium do the job well.Wondered if you all 
think so.Thanks for any info.I like that it is not affected by rain like the 
leather.
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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

2015-03-30 Thread Amit Singh
Maybe TMI, maybe a joke, but definitely worth considering. Has anyone 
experienced the Cambium saddle pulling their butt hair? It's terribly 
uncomfortable for me to ride ... I tried two different saddles, two 
different times, two miles each time and it was too unbearable.

On Sunday, 29 March 2015 20:32:58 UTC-7, lungimsam wrote:

 If you have used both, does the Cambiums flex reduce road shock as nicely 
 as the sprung Flyer does? I hate road shock, It hurts my back. Interested 
 in Cambium though because of its waterproof-ness.

 I asked Brooks if they were going to have a sprung Cambium, and they said 
 no because the flex properties on the Cambium do the job well.
 Wondered if you all think so.
 Thanks for any info.
 I like that it is not affected by rain like the leather.


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[RBW] Re: Cambium vs. Flyer question

2015-03-30 Thread lungimsam
I am ~ 170lbs., and I have always felt my Flyer springs bounce. Its like 
turning your bike into a limo. At my weight it bounces just enough to be 
comfortable. It doesn't bounce too much. Just right.
It is great at eliminating road shock.

I need a saddle with a cutout and was wondering if the Cambium eliminates 
road shock as well as the Flyer. Otherwise I might try an Imperial Flyer. 
They are available now at wallbike.com.

 

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