Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Wow, this thread got resurrected from the dead... If I had one parting thought about the LoupLoups, I have reduced the pressure somewhat and it seems to help the flat resistance, and reduces blowoffs, which seem to be a feature of my Soma Weymouth rims I have on my Custom. I'm running in the range of 40-50 front and 50-60 rear. Jan recommended not running his tires with Soma Weymouth rims and I'd have to say I agree. But for the moment getting new rims built up is a money issue, so I'll soldier on with these for now. On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Robin Miller robince...@gmail.com wrote: I've been riding Panaracer Nifty Swiftys on my Bleriot since 2007. I was happy with their flat resistance and the durability of the rubber, but the sidewalls seemed to get brittle and tear after a while. When a second sidewall rip occurred, I decided to look for other options. I somehow talked myself into splurging on the Loup Loup Pass Ultralights, and wow... what a difference. I always thought casing suppleness was marketing BS, but apparently not. Despite the Compass tires being considerably wider than the Nifty Swifties, they roll much more smoothly, and along with the reduced weight, I feel like I've gained a couple mph when riding with no extra effort! Regarding mounting on Velocity Synergy rims, I have 2007 era Synergies, and mounting was mildly annoying, in that some attention was required to get the tire evenly seated. Once inflated, though, as far as I can see the tire stays put. I have a hundred miles or so commuting miles on the tires so far and they are still evenly mounted. Anyway, so far it appears to have been money well spent. Does anyone know if Rivendell's own online store no longer carrying Nifty Swifties is because Grant has recognized that they are actually not very good tires? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
I've been riding Panaracer Nifty Swiftys on my Bleriot since 2007. I was happy with their flat resistance and the durability of the rubber, but the sidewalls seemed to get brittle and tear after a while. When a second sidewall rip occurred, I decided to look for other options. I somehow talked myself into splurging on the Loup Loup Pass Ultralights, and wow... what a difference. I always thought casing suppleness was marketing BS, but apparently not. Despite the Compass tires being considerably wider than the Nifty Swifties, they roll much more smoothly, and along with the reduced weight, I feel like I've gained a couple mph when riding with no extra effort! Regarding mounting on Velocity Synergy rims, I have 2007 era Synergies, and mounting was mildly annoying, in that some attention was required to get the tire evenly seated. Once inflated, though, as far as I can see the tire stays put. I have a hundred miles or so commuting miles on the tires so far and they are still evenly mounted. Anyway, so far it appears to have been money well spent. Does anyone know if Rivendell's own online store no longer carrying Nifty Swifties is because Grant has recognized that they are actually not very good tires? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Jim, Have you used Hetres before? If so, how do the Loups compare? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Don't forget: http://www.lyonsport.com/frames-0 On Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:03:05 AM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: The limiting factor right now on the Redwood is the 200mm cranks. I'm scraping pretty often even with 700x32. But I do have an extra 650B wheelset sitting around now that I sold my Soma GR. Which brings me to the other limiting factor - time. I am working with a contractor to put my house back together after a sewer line backup resulted in flood remediation people tearing out flooring, baseboards, sheetrock and insulation. It's also Christmas time. And, I'm trying to reach some mileage/kilometer goals for the year, which demand time spent riding bikes, not working on converting them to a different wheel size. So I'll keep riding the Redwood as is for now. I really do want a purpose built 650B frame - eventually. It probably won't be a Rivendell, because I don't see a low trail 650B optimized frame for very tall riders as something Grant has shown any signs of interest towards. He uses the 650B for the smaller frames but usually the big ones are 700C spec. Nor does he appear to be a fan of low trail. For my money I'd probably lean towards a Boulder custom lugged or if I wanted more versatility, a Elephant NFE. I suppose another custom Riv could be in the offing but it's hard to justify the additional $1300 over a lugged Boulder, they look really, really nice. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Hey Jim, I'm in the process of converting my new 68cm Rambouillet to 650b. It fits Hetres or Stampede Pass + fenders no problem. The Redwood should be the same I would think. KJ On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:46:39 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: Ha, since you dug this old thread back up, I am still using the LoupLoups and I'm still on the same batch I mentioned back in August. Can't imagine using anything else other than the Compass tires in general, and the LoupLoups on this bike for sure, since that's the biggest that will fit between the seatstays on my custom. They have the great feeling of all the light fat tires that Jan Heine popularized, but last much longer than any of the others I've tried like the Grand Bois Cypress or the Pacenti Pari-Moto. I'm getting at least 2500 miles per tire. The Grand Bois would go out of round after 750-1000 miles and the Pari-Motos were cut to shreds in less mileage than that. I just finally got a flat on the back about 15 miles from the end of last weekend's 600K that got me thinking I might want to replace the back tire since I could see the casing through the puncture. But instead I just booted it and carried on, it's got at least 2000 miles on it so maybe eek out another 500 ;) My recently acquired Redwood is still 700c but when I get around to replacing the tires I will probably try Compass Stampede Pass. If I convert it to 650B it will wear the LoupLoups. -Jim On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:28 PM, PaulS shin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this review. I am looking to purchase Loup Loup's (or Pari-motos). My Hetre's are good tires, but a bit sluggish for me. I'm hoping Loup Loup's will result in a more snappier ride. On Friday, August 8, 2014 10:21:22 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: Yes, the LoupLoups have been far better for me than any other tire I have tried on my Rivendell. I bought 4 more of them a couple of weeks ago to equip a new build and to replace the rear on the Riv. Which lasted at least 2500 miles. Most of the supple tires I tried before gave a very short life on the rear wheel, I think mostly owing to the weight of the engine. On Thursday, August 7, 2014, lungimsam john1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the report. Loups still treating you right? I am thinking of going from Hetres to Loups, but don't know if I am more likely to get flats on the Loups. I think the tread is .5mm thinner than Hetres but cannot confirm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups. com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Hey Jim, I'm in the process of converting my new 68cm Rambouillet to 650b. It fits Hetres or Stampede Pass + fenders no problem. The Redwood should be the same I would think. KJ On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:46:39 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: Ha, since you dug this old thread back up, I am still using the LoupLoups and I'm still on the same batch I mentioned back in August. Can't imagine using anything else other than the Compass tires in general, and the LoupLoups on this bike for sure, since that's the biggest that will fit between the seatstays on my custom. They have the great feeling of all the light fat tires that Jan Heine popularized, but last much longer than any of the others I've tried like the Grand Bois Cypress or the Pacenti Pari-Moto. I'm getting at least 2500 miles per tire. The Grand Bois would go out of round after 750-1000 miles and the Pari-Motos were cut to shreds in less mileage than that. I just finally got a flat on the back about 15 miles from the end of last weekend's 600K that got me thinking I might want to replace the back tire since I could see the casing through the puncture. But instead I just booted it and carried on, it's got at least 2000 miles on it so maybe eek out another 500 ;) My recently acquired Redwood is still 700c but when I get around to replacing the tires I will probably try Compass Stampede Pass. If I convert it to 650B it will wear the LoupLoups. -Jim On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:28 PM, PaulS shin...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks for this review. I am looking to purchase Loup Loup's (or Pari-motos). My Hetre's are good tires, but a bit sluggish for me. I'm hoping Loup Loup's will result in a more snappier ride. On Friday, August 8, 2014 10:21:22 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: Yes, the LoupLoups have been far better for me than any other tire I have tried on my Rivendell. I bought 4 more of them a couple of weeks ago to equip a new build and to replace the rear on the Riv. Which lasted at least 2500 miles. Most of the supple tires I tried before gave a very short life on the rear wheel, I think mostly owing to the weight of the engine. On Thursday, August 7, 2014, lungimsam john1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the report. Loups still treating you right? I am thinking of going from Hetres to Loups, but don't know if I am more likely to get flats on the Loups. I think the tread is .5mm thinner than Hetres but cannot confirm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com javascript:. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
The limiting factor right now on the Redwood is the 200mm cranks. I'm scraping pretty often even with 700x32. But I do have an extra 650B wheelset sitting around now that I sold my Soma GR. Which brings me to the other limiting factor - time. I am working with a contractor to put my house back together after a sewer line backup resulted in flood remediation people tearing out flooring, baseboards, sheetrock and insulation. It's also Christmas time. And, I'm trying to reach some mileage/kilometer goals for the year, which demand time spent riding bikes, not working on converting them to a different wheel size. So I'll keep riding the Redwood as is for now. I really do want a purpose built 650B frame - eventually. It probably won't be a Rivendell, because I don't see a low trail 650B optimized frame for very tall riders as something Grant has shown any signs of interest towards. He uses the 650B for the smaller frames but usually the big ones are 700C spec. Nor does he appear to be a fan of low trail. For my money I'd probably lean towards a Boulder custom lugged or if I wanted more versatility, a Elephant NFE. I suppose another custom Riv could be in the offing but it's hard to justify the additional $1300 over a lugged Boulder, they look really, really nice. On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Kieran J kjo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Jim, I'm in the process of converting my new 68cm Rambouillet to 650b. It fits Hetres or Stampede Pass + fenders no problem. The Redwood should be the same I would think. KJ On Monday, December 15, 2014 5:46:39 PM UTC-5, Jim Bronson wrote: Ha, since you dug this old thread back up, I am still using the LoupLoups and I'm still on the same batch I mentioned back in August. Can't imagine using anything else other than the Compass tires in general, and the LoupLoups on this bike for sure, since that's the biggest that will fit between the seatstays on my custom. They have the great feeling of all the light fat tires that Jan Heine popularized, but last much longer than any of the others I've tried like the Grand Bois Cypress or the Pacenti Pari-Moto. I'm getting at least 2500 miles per tire. The Grand Bois would go out of round after 750-1000 miles and the Pari-Motos were cut to shreds in less mileage than that. I just finally got a flat on the back about 15 miles from the end of last weekend's 600K that got me thinking I might want to replace the back tire since I could see the casing through the puncture. But instead I just booted it and carried on, it's got at least 2000 miles on it so maybe eek out another 500 ;) My recently acquired Redwood is still 700c but when I get around to replacing the tires I will probably try Compass Stampede Pass. If I convert it to 650B it will wear the LoupLoups. -Jim On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:28 PM, PaulS shin...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this review. I am looking to purchase Loup Loup's (or Pari-motos). My Hetre's are good tires, but a bit sluggish for me. I'm hoping Loup Loup's will result in a more snappier ride. On Friday, August 8, 2014 10:21:22 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: Yes, the LoupLoups have been far better for me than any other tire I have tried on my Rivendell. I bought 4 more of them a couple of weeks ago to equip a new build and to replace the rear on the Riv. Which lasted at least 2500 miles. Most of the supple tires I tried before gave a very short life on the rear wheel, I think mostly owing to the weight of the engine. On Thursday, August 7, 2014, lungimsam john1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the report. Loups still treating you right? I am thinking of going from Hetres to Loups, but don't know if I am more likely to get flats on the Loups. I think the tread is .5mm thinner than Hetres but cannot confirm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
[RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Thanks for this review. I am looking to purchase Loup Loup's (or Pari-motos). My Hetre's are good tires, but a bit sluggish for me. I'm hoping Loup Loup's will result in a more snappier ride. On Friday, August 8, 2014 10:21:22 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: Yes, the LoupLoups have been far better for me than any other tire I have tried on my Rivendell. I bought 4 more of them a couple of weeks ago to equip a new build and to replace the rear on the Riv. Which lasted at least 2500 miles. Most of the supple tires I tried before gave a very short life on the rear wheel, I think mostly owing to the weight of the engine. On Thursday, August 7, 2014, lungimsam john1...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: Thanks for the report. Loups still treating you right? I am thinking of going from Hetres to Loups, but don't know if I am more likely to get flats on the Loups. I think the tread is .5mm thinner than Hetres but cannot confirm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Ha, since you dug this old thread back up, I am still using the LoupLoups and I'm still on the same batch I mentioned back in August. Can't imagine using anything else other than the Compass tires in general, and the LoupLoups on this bike for sure, since that's the biggest that will fit between the seatstays on my custom. They have the great feeling of all the light fat tires that Jan Heine popularized, but last much longer than any of the others I've tried like the Grand Bois Cypress or the Pacenti Pari-Moto. I'm getting at least 2500 miles per tire. The Grand Bois would go out of round after 750-1000 miles and the Pari-Motos were cut to shreds in less mileage than that. I just finally got a flat on the back about 15 miles from the end of last weekend's 600K that got me thinking I might want to replace the back tire since I could see the casing through the puncture. But instead I just booted it and carried on, it's got at least 2000 miles on it so maybe eek out another 500 ;) My recently acquired Redwood is still 700c but when I get around to replacing the tires I will probably try Compass Stampede Pass. If I convert it to 650B it will wear the LoupLoups. -Jim On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 10:28 PM, PaulS shinp...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for this review. I am looking to purchase Loup Loup's (or Pari-motos). My Hetre's are good tires, but a bit sluggish for me. I'm hoping Loup Loup's will result in a more snappier ride. On Friday, August 8, 2014 10:21:22 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: Yes, the LoupLoups have been far better for me than any other tire I have tried on my Rivendell. I bought 4 more of them a couple of weeks ago to equip a new build and to replace the rear on the Riv. Which lasted at least 2500 miles. Most of the supple tires I tried before gave a very short life on the rear wheel, I think mostly owing to the weight of the engine. On Thursday, August 7, 2014, lungimsam john1...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the report. Loups still treating you right? I am thinking of going from Hetres to Loups, but don't know if I am more likely to get flats on the Loups. I think the tread is .5mm thinner than Hetres but cannot confirm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Yes, the LoupLoups have been far better for me than any other tire I have tried on my Rivendell. I bought 4 more of them a couple of weeks ago to equip a new build and to replace the rear on the Riv. Which lasted at least 2500 miles. Most of the supple tires I tried before gave a very short life on the rear wheel, I think mostly owing to the weight of the engine. On Thursday, August 7, 2014, lungimsam john11.2...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the report. Loups still treating you right? I am thinking of going from Hetres to Loups, but don't know if I am more likely to get flats on the Loups. I think the tread is .5mm thinner than Hetres but cannot confirm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com'); . To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com');. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Thanks for the report. Loups still treating you right? I am thinking of going from Hetres to Loups, but don't know if I am more likely to get flats on the Loups. I think the tread is .5mm thinner than Hetres but cannot confirm. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Sorry about the long delay. Ended up riding the tandem for the week my stepdaughter was here for Spring Break because she preferred it to my wife's single. Which was an unexpected development, but I don't use the tandem nearly enough to justify the money I've put into it between the purchase and the upgrades, so I'm glad it got some usage. She got to do her first organized rides on a road bike which was pretty cool. So anyway I mounted up and rode the Loup Loup Pass tire for last weekend's ride(s) on the back with the Pari-Moto on the front. The first thing you notice about the Loup Loup Pass is that the tread section seems a lot thicker than the Pari Moto. It mounts up about the same as a Pari-Moto, which is to say you'll need to fiddle with the bead seating a little bit to get the line above the bead uniformly visible around the tire. Saturday I saddled up to ride the Houston-Austin MS150 with what was by far the most unique looking bike on the team. But anyway. The riding experience doesn't really seem that much different than the Pari-Moto. It seems to roll and corner pretty well, with a similar plush ride. If there is greater rolling resistance vs the Pari-Moto, it was pretty hard to quantify. Frankly, I was glad to have the much thicker tread beneath the back tire at least. The Pari-Motos gave me a somewhat constant flat anxiety, since I had been experiencing so many flats with the back tire. I very rarely flat up front so I figured I was safe up there with a thinner tire. Or was I...about 5 miles west of Bastrop, Texas, it rained a little bit and what do you know, the Pari Moto went flat. Probably my first front flat in 4000+ miles. I could have fixed it and soldiered on with the Pari Moto but I was carrying a spare Loup Loup Pass in my Carradice. So I said, the heck with this and I mounted the Loup Loup Pass on the front wheel for the remaining 33 or so miles into Austin. I did notice with two Loup Loups mounted that there did seem to be a bit more tire noise, but I didn't feel that my effort level had been noticeably increased, and the ride was just as plush. I took some caliper measurements just now after the bike sat for a couple of days. The back tire after 186 miles is just a hair under 39mm. The front tire after 33ish miles measured dead on 37mm. All and all, I am happy with the Loup Loups and most likely will continue to use them for a while. On a side note, my Rivendell with gumwall 38mm tires and white longboards got TONS of compliments from all the people on their 700x23 racyish bikes. Literally dozens each day of the ride. I could go into detail but I won't bore you all ;) -Jim On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote: I bought 3 of the regular, non-EL model with tan sidewalls around 12:45 PDT. Shipping via Priority Mail, so hopefully they will be here by Thursday. I will let you all know how they measure out on my Synergies. Also will be taking them out on the Austin 400K this weekend, after my 5 flat weekend on the Houston 600K on the 15th/16th on Pari-Motos, I am hoping for a little better luck on these Loup Loup Passses. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Sure doubt its Compass's fault. I've been very pleased with their service. On Monday, March 31, 2014 4:08:54 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: Finally showed up today, 2 days after the 400k I wanted to use them on. Personally, I blame the postal service. But oh well. On Mar 28, 2014 10:02 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com javascript: wrote: I must have the old Synergies. The tires will readily mount unevenly and thump and pulsate, if I'm not careful with mounting. That being said, I think the high weight of the engine does balance it out some. The pulsating is much less noticeable on the back even when the tire is obviously out of balance. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag.comjavascript: wrote: FYI, I just built up a set of wheels with new Synergy rims, and had no problems seating the bead of my Grand Bois Lierre tires. I put a little soap on the beads to help, of course. The Lierre tires seated up way more easily than they ever did on the ZAC19 rims. Velocity claims to have fixed the bead distance on new production of the Synergy, and I believe them. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.comjavascript: wrote: On 03/25/2014 02:02 AM, Michael wrote: Let us know how easily they mount on Synergies, too, please. Particularly the bead seating. Thanks. Bead seating issues on Synergy rims are due to the rim, not the tire. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com javascript:. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.comjavascript: . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
My recent Compass tires order took a couple of days longer to get there than I expected, but Im sure they got them here as quickly as possible. They emailed to say that demand for the new tires has hit their shipping department pretty hard. Good predicament to be in! --Eric N campyonly...@me.com Web: www.campyonly.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy Blog: campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Mar 31, 2014, at 4:55 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: Sure doubt its Compass's fault. I've been very pleased with their service. On Monday, March 31, 2014 4:08:54 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: Finally showed up today, 2 days after the 400k I wanted to use them on. Personally, I blame the postal service. But oh well. On Mar 28, 2014 10:02 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com wrote: I must have the old Synergies. The tires will readily mount unevenly and thump and pulsate, if I'm not careful with mounting. That being said, I think the high weight of the engine does balance it out some. The pulsating is much less noticeable on the back even when the tire is obviously out of balance. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag.com wrote: FYI, I just built up a set of wheels with new Synergy rims, and had no problems seating the bead of my Grand Bois Lierre tires. I put a little soap on the beads to help, of course. The Lierre tires seated up way more easily than they ever did on the ZAC19 rims. Velocity claims to have fixed the bead distance on new production of the Synergy, and I believe them. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote: On 03/25/2014 02:02 AM, Michael wrote: Let us know how easily they mount on Synergies, too, please. Particularly the bead seating. Thanks. Bead seating issues on Synergy rims are due to the rim, not the tire. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Wort the wait for me. My Atlantis immediately got more efficient when I put the Compass tires on. My new favorite (along with JB Green and the Big Ben 700x55 (which rarely fit anyway).) -Jim W. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 31, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote: My recent Compass tires order took a couple of days longer to get there than I expected, but I”m sure they got them here as quickly as possible. They emailed to say that demand for the new tires has hit their shipping department pretty hard. Good predicament to be in! --Eric N campyonly...@me.com Web: www.campyonly.com Twitter: @campyonlyguy Blog: campyonlyguy.blogspot.com On Mar 31, 2014, at 4:55 PM, ted ted.ke...@comcast.net wrote: Sure doubt its Compass's fault. I've been very pleased with their service. On Monday, March 31, 2014 4:08:54 PM UTC-7, Jim Bronson wrote: Finally showed up today, 2 days after the 400k I wanted to use them on. Personally, I blame the postal service. But oh well. On Mar 28, 2014 10:02 AM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com wrote: I must have the old Synergies. The tires will readily mount unevenly and thump and pulsate, if I'm not careful with mounting. That being said, I think the high weight of the engine does balance it out some. The pulsating is much less noticeable on the back even when the tire is obviously out of balance. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Tim Gavin tim@littlevillagemag.com wrote: FYI, I just built up a set of wheels with new Synergy rims, and had no problems seating the bead of my Grand Bois Lierre tires. I put a little soap on the beads to help, of course. The Lierre tires seated up way more easily than they ever did on the ZAC19 rims. Velocity claims to have fixed the bead distance on new production of the Synergy, and I believe them. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Steve Palincsar pali...@his.com wrote: On 03/25/2014 02:02 AM, Michael wrote: Let us know how easily they mount on Synergies, too, please. Particularly the bead seating. Thanks. Bead seating issues on Synergy rims are due to the rim, not the tire. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Yep, the new Synergies seem fine, BSD wise... On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote: FYI, I just built up a set of wheels with new Synergy rims, and had no problems seating the bead of my Grand Bois Lierre tires. I put a little soap on the beads to help, of course. The Lierre tires seated up way more easily than they ever did on the ZAC19 rims. Velocity claims to have fixed the bead distance on new production of the Synergy, and I believe them. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 03/25/2014 02:02 AM, Michael wrote: Let us know how easily they mount on Synergies, too, please. Particularly the bead seating. Thanks. Bead seating issues on Synergy rims are due to the rim, not the tire. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
I must have the old Synergies. The tires will readily mount unevenly and thump and pulsate, if I'm not careful with mounting. That being said, I think the high weight of the engine does balance it out some. The pulsating is much less noticeable on the back even when the tire is obviously out of balance. On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Tim Gavin tim.ga...@littlevillagemag.comwrote: FYI, I just built up a set of wheels with new Synergy rims, and had no problems seating the bead of my Grand Bois Lierre tires. I put a little soap on the beads to help, of course. The Lierre tires seated up way more easily than they ever did on the ZAC19 rims. Velocity claims to have fixed the bead distance on new production of the Synergy, and I believe them. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 03/25/2014 02:02 AM, Michael wrote: Let us know how easily they mount on Synergies, too, please. Particularly the bead seating. Thanks. Bead seating issues on Synergy rims are due to the rim, not the tire. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Keep the metal side up and the rubber side down! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
FYI, I just built up a set of wheels with new Synergy rims, and had no problems seating the bead of my Grand Bois Lierre tires. I put a little soap on the beads to help, of course. The Lierre tires seated up way more easily than they ever did on the ZAC19 rims. Velocity claims to have fixed the bead distance on new production of the Synergy, and I believe them. On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Steve Palincsar palin...@his.com wrote: On 03/25/2014 02:02 AM, Michael wrote: Let us know how easily they mount on Synergies, too, please. Particularly the bead seating. Thanks. Bead seating issues on Synergy rims are due to the rim, not the tire. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
Let us know how easily they mount on Synergies, too, please. Particularly the bead seating. Thanks. I have Hetres now, but when I need new tires I will be trying to decide between these vs. Hetres. I wonder if one is less prone to flats than the other? Looking forward to the ride report, too. God bless you and have a great time!! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [RBW] Re: Compass Loup Loup Pass 650Bx38
On 03/25/2014 02:02 AM, Michael wrote: Let us know how easily they mount on Synergies, too, please. Particularly the bead seating. Thanks. Bead seating issues on Synergy rims are due to the rim, not the tire. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups RBW Owners Bunch group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
