[RBW] Re: Does your upstroke knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends?

2013-07-16 Thread bobish
Based on your description, Michael, my knee is exactly aligned with the end of 
the bar. I use bar end shifters, however, so those break the imaginary plane. 
This position is wonderful for me and at this height stem/bar, I'm thinking 
some more extension may work even better. I have an effective 8.5cm extension 
on a dirt drop stem and may try a 12-14 cm tallux at some point. Whether that 
will be an improvement, I can't say (fine points of personal preference bicycle 
adjustment and all that). 

Btw, for anyone wondering about knee/bar end shifter interference while slow 
speed turning, the way if works is that you hit your knee 3 or 4 times, curse 
under breath, and then some reflex kicks in thereafter which allows you to move 
your knee out of the way without thought or hesitation. 

• Perry

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[RBW] Re: Does your upstroke knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends?

2013-07-16 Thread Tom Virgil
If one ran a string from one of the Alba bar ends to the other, the closest 
approach of my knee would be slightly below and behind that string.  My 
knees are within strike range of the silver shifter when it is 45 degrees 
below the horizontal.  For reference, I ride a 52 cm Sam with an 11 cm 
Tallux stem.  The horizontal segment of the stem is about 1 inch above seat 
level.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/20853610@N05/8964729281/

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:43:20 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 On the upstroke, does your knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends? 
 Like a line drawn from one bar end to another.
  
 Just curious to see how roomy everyone's Alba set up is.
  
 My knees break the plane. I feel I have plenty of room though and I 
 wouldn't want to get the bars any further away.
  
 I have the bars high enough that they are above my legs, unless I do a 
 really slow circle turn, then the ends tend to run into my thighs. But no 
 biggie. I really like sitting upright and seeing the sky when I ride. 
 Pretty sights.


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[RBW] Re: Does your upstroke knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends?

2013-07-15 Thread justinaugust
Do you mean vertically (going above the bar ends) or horizontally (going 
past the bar ends in between them)?

-J

On Monday, July 15, 2013 1:43:20 AM UTC-4, Michael wrote:

 On the upstroke, does your knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends? 
 Like a line drawn from one bar end to another.
  
 Just curious to see how roomy everyone's Alba set up is.
  
 My knees break the plane. I feel I have plenty of room though and I 
 wouldn't want to get the bars any further away.
  
 I have the bars high enough that they are above my legs, unless I do a 
 really slow circle turn, then the ends tend to run into my thighs. But no 
 biggie. I really like sitting upright and seeing the sky when I ride. 
 Pretty sights.


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[RBW] Re: Does your upstroke knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends?

2013-07-15 Thread Michael


 Horizontally, going in between them.

 

 I mean that if you were to tie a string from one bar end to the other, 
 would the tip of your knee, at the top of the upstroke, be in front of that 
 string? Breaking that plain, so to speak.

Like, when riding look down at your left knee and see if it crosses that 
plane as the leg rises on the upstroke.
 
I should post a knee upstroke Panda shot. Ha ha.

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[RBW] Re: Does your upstroke knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends?

2013-07-15 Thread Deacon Patrick
No.

With abandon,
Patrick

On Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:43:20 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:

 On the upstroke, does your knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends? 
 Like a line drawn from one bar end to another.
  
 Just curious to see how roomy everyone's Alba set up is.
  
 My knees break the plane. I feel I have plenty of room though and I 
 wouldn't want to get the bars any further away.
  
 I have the bars high enough that they are above my legs, unless I do a 
 really slow circle turn, then the ends tend to run into my thighs. But no 
 biggie. I really like sitting upright and seeing the sky when I ride. 
 Pretty sights.


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Re: [RBW] Re: Does your upstroke knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends?

2013-07-15 Thread Robert Barr
No


On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:

 No.

 With abandon,
 Patrick


 On Sunday, July 14, 2013 11:43:20 PM UTC-6, Michael wrote:

 On the upstroke, does your knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends?
 Like a line drawn from one bar end to another.

 Just curious to see how roomy everyone's Alba set up is.

 My knees break the plane. I feel I have plenty of room though and I
 wouldn't want to get the bars any further away.

 I have the bars high enough that they are above my legs, unless I do a
 really slow circle turn, then the ends tend to run into my thighs. But no
 biggie. I really like sitting upright and seeing the sky when I ride.
 Pretty sights.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Does your upstroke knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends?

2013-07-15 Thread reynoldslugs

Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?
If your mother says don't chew it, do you swallow it in spite?
Can you catch it on your tonsils, can you heave it left  right?
Does your chewing gum lose its flavor on the bedpost overnight?

sorry... hopefully I will not be banished from the list


M 

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[RBW] Re: Does your upstroke knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends?

2013-07-15 Thread Andy Smitty Schmidt
No... never thought to look for/at that. I just did a tester and my best 
estimate is that my knee doesn't get closer than 4-5 inches behind that 
BE-BE line. You might try a longer stem, Michael. I never have issues with 
the BEs getting too close even in really tight turns and I'm still pretty 
upright. 

--Smitty


On Sunday, July 14, 2013 10:43:20 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:

 On the upstroke, does your knee break the plane of your Alba bar ends? 
 Like a line drawn from one bar end to another.
  
 Just curious to see how roomy everyone's Alba set up is.
  
 My knees break the plane. I feel I have plenty of room though and I 
 wouldn't want to get the bars any further away.
  
 I have the bars high enough that they are above my legs, unless I do a 
 really slow circle turn, then the ends tend to run into my thighs. But no 
 biggie. I really like sitting upright and seeing the sky when I ride. 
 Pretty sights.


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