[RBW] Re: FIRST RIDE ON MY B-17 standard

2014-10-22 Thread Ty Graham
I switched from my Professional to an old broken in B-17 for my 900 mile 
California trip. Crazy to change a major component at the last minute, but 
I decided I needed the comfort.

I'm really glad I made the swap. I had no issues, just 900 miles of 
comfort. My legs gave out way before I had any seat issues. Really amazing 
considering how little training I did before the California ride: 200 miles.

I'm going to leave this B-17 on the Atlantis.

Saddle slightly above bars. I mostly ride just behind the brake hoods. I 
slide off the back, getting flat for any kind of descent (and there were a 
lot of those).

Ty Graham (seattle)


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[RBW] Re: FIRST RIDE ON MY B-17 standard

2014-10-21 Thread Paul G
Jon, how upright do you sit on your bike most of the time? I'm trying to 
get a feel for how crouched of a riding position a B17 can handle. I 
sometimes ride really crouched with a horizontal back or sit up with my 
back at 55-50 degrees if I'm putting along slowly with the family and I'd 
like a saddle that can handle that range.

Paul

On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:55:22 PM UTC-7, Jon in the foothills of 
Central Colorado wrote:

 I did a lot of reading about setting up a Brooks Saddle.A majority of 
 people said tip the nose of the saddle up. I did just a bit. Went for a 30 
 mile ride.
 The saddles positioned as far back as possible. I was expecting pain and 
 discomfort. Didn't happen.I did experience sliding forward into the 
 hammock.
 Started to feel some discomfort at the end of the ride. but bearable.
 I got home and tipped up the nose a bit more.Took it for a short spin..No 
 slinding forward. Felt very comfortable
 I'm very pleased. And what a piece of art and craftsmanship! I got the 
 Honey color.Just beautiful!.


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[RBW] Re: FIRST RIDE ON MY B-17 standard

2014-10-21 Thread Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado
Hi Paul,
I ride pretty upright most of the time with my hands on the end of the bar 
.But if I'm climbing I grab on to the front of my Albatross bars  which 
shifts my weight and I'm leaning over not quite horizontal towards the 
front. Not as much as if I were in the drops of my road bike. In either 
position I'm comfortable .I've only ridden my B-17 three times and I have 
no pain or discomfort after 30 plus miles/ride. I've made minor adjustments 
to the nose of the saddle each  ride. Hope that helps.It's a great saddle.

On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:26:07 PM UTC-6, Paul G wrote:

 Jon, how upright do you sit on your bike most of the time? I'm trying to 
 get a feel for how crouched of a riding position a B17 can handle. I 
 sometimes ride really crouched with a horizontal back or sit up with my 
 back at 55-50 degrees if I'm putting along slowly with the family and I'd 
 like a saddle that can handle that range.

 Paul

 On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:55:22 PM UTC-7, Jon in the foothills of 
 Central Colorado wrote:

 I did a lot of reading about setting up a Brooks Saddle.A majority of 
 people said tip the nose of the saddle up. I did just a bit. Went for a 30 
 mile ride.
 The saddles positioned as far back as possible. I was expecting pain and 
 discomfort. Didn't happen.I did experience sliding forward into the 
 hammock.
 Started to feel some discomfort at the end of the ride. but bearable.
 I got home and tipped up the nose a bit more.Took it for a short spin..No 
 slinding forward. Felt very comfortable
 I'm very pleased. And what a piece of art and craftsmanship! I got the 
 Honey color.Just beautiful!.



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Re: [RBW] Re: FIRST RIDE ON MY B-17 standard

2014-10-21 Thread Chris Chen
I find the B-17 good for the noodle to albatache range of rectitude.

For albatrosses close to saddle height, they work fine, but any higher and
I start to think a B-6* starts to sound better.

YMMV

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Jon in the foothills of Central Colorado 
row.n.2nowh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Paul,
 I ride pretty upright most of the time with my hands on the end of the bar
 .But if I'm climbing I grab on to the front of my Albatross bars  which
 shifts my weight and I'm leaning over not quite horizontal towards the
 front. Not as much as if I were in the drops of my road bike. In either
 position I'm comfortable .I've only ridden my B-17 three times and I have
 no pain or discomfort after 30 plus miles/ride. I've made minor adjustments
 to the nose of the saddle each  ride. Hope that helps.It's a great saddle.


 On Tuesday, October 21, 2014 2:26:07 PM UTC-6, Paul G wrote:

 Jon, how upright do you sit on your bike most of the time? I'm trying to
 get a feel for how crouched of a riding position a B17 can handle. I
 sometimes ride really crouched with a horizontal back or sit up with my
 back at 55-50 degrees if I'm putting along slowly with the family and I'd
 like a saddle that can handle that range.

 Paul

 On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 2:55:22 PM UTC-7, Jon in the foothills of
 Central Colorado wrote:

 I did a lot of reading about setting up a Brooks Saddle.A majority of
 people said tip the nose of the saddle up. I did just a bit. Went for a 30
 mile ride.
 The saddles positioned as far back as possible. I was expecting pain and
 discomfort. Didn't happen.I did experience sliding forward into the
 hammock.
 Started to feel some discomfort at the end of the ride. but bearable.
 I got home and tipped up the nose a bit more.Took it for a short
 spin..No slinding forward. Felt very comfortable
 I'm very pleased. And what a piece of art and craftsmanship! I got the
 Honey color.Just beautiful!.

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[RBW] Re: FIRST RIDE ON MY B-17 standard

2014-10-21 Thread Paul G
I do ride with Noodle bars at saddle height on my bicycle in question. 
However, the amount of torso angle I ride with can vary significantly 
depending on the type of riding I'm doing. I get as low as horizontal when 
riding hard and fast with my arms bent in the hooks even though the bars 
are at saddle height. When in the tops, the Noodle bars can allow a fairly 
upright position when at saddle height due to the use of a shortish stem 
that's required by virtue of the long ramps/reach of the Noodles and modern 
Campy levers.

Since we know the B17 works well for a moderate back angle, how does it 
fair when crouched low when riding hard as described above?

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[RBW] Re: FIRST RIDE ON MY B-17 standard

2014-10-21 Thread 'Mojo' via RBW Owners Bunch


 Paul,


I too use Noodles at B17 height. Hard efforts in the drops and a flat to 
semi-flat back *never* have me thinking about my butt. Its always my lungs 
and legs that are screaming. 

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[RBW] Re: FIRST RIDE ON MY B-17 standard

2014-10-21 Thread Paul G
Thanks for your input, Mojo. Much appreciated. 

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[RBW] Re: FIRST RIDE ON MY B-17 standard

2014-10-09 Thread Mark Reimer
I've had the same experience, but depends on the model. I went on a 180km 
ride on a nearly brand new B17 Special and it felt awesome. Same with a 
standard B17 and a 100km ride. When they are setup perfectly, they are 
invisible. I do notice though that even the slightest adjustments make a 
huge difference. If my saddle gets tweaked even 1mm to the side or up and 
down, I seem to immediately think 'oh no, something is TERRIBLY wrong' hah!

I've had the opposite experience with the B17 narrow, which feels like it's 
a slab of granite. Same with my Swift, though it's a much narrower saddle 
so its comfort is going to be limited compared to the B17 from the 
beginning. It's great for faster rides where I'm bent over more, riding in 
the drops mostly. For upright riding, no way. 

On Wednesday, October 8, 2014 4:55:22 PM UTC-5, Jon in the foothills of 
Central Colorado wrote:

 I did a lot of reading about setting up a Brooks Saddle.A majority of 
 people said tip the nose of the saddle up. I did just a bit. Went for a 30 
 mile ride.
 The saddles positioned as far back as possible. I was expecting pain and 
 discomfort. Didn't happen.I did experience sliding forward into the 
 hammock.
 Started to feel some discomfort at the end of the ride. but bearable.
 I got home and tipped up the nose a bit more.Took it for a short spin..No 
 slinding forward. Felt very comfortable
 I'm very pleased. And what a piece of art and craftsmanship! I got the 
 Honey color.Just beautiful!.


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