[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

2023-02-15 Thread Damien
Beautiful bike! Whoever gets this appears to be getting a fabulous deal. If 
only it were a 54...

On Tuesday, 14 February 2023 at 14:17:51 UTC-5 jmlmu...@gmail.com wrote:

> Ben is a great guy and a fun riding partner. We've ridden together many 
> times with this bike and I can say $1500 sounds like a steal to me. I hope 
> someone can give it a good home!
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:02:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:
>
>> This is one of my favorite bikes. I am 6 ft, 85 PBH and also roads a 55 
>> Sam. This size fit me perfect. Hope someone buys it soon.
>>
>> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:51:47 PM UTC-8 bunny...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Everyone! 
>>> This is still for sale. I've had some serious lookers, but no takers.
>>> $1,500 plus shipping?
>>> I need a new computer ;)
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:28:45 PM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
 Good to know, thanks!

 On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:59:44 AM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> It wasn't possible to do get the bars on the stem with the stem on the 
> bike. Like an impossible puzzle. However, with both the stem and bars off 
> of the bike I was able to gently rotate the stem as I was feeding it onto 
> the handlebars. There was always one rotational point where the stem 
> would 
> move on the bars with no forcing. Cheers!
>
> Cheers!
> Ben
>
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
>> A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars 
>> thru a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required 
>> an 
>> open face stem due to the abrupt curves.
>> Thanks,
>> Alan in NYC
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
>>> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat 
>>> tube) 
>>> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think 
>>> Grant 
>>> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
>>> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding 
>>> sizes 
>>> and shapes of riders. 
>>>
>>> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso 
>>> for my height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the 
>>> need for a custom for 20 years. 
>>>
>>> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from 
>>> this bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. 
>>> Sometimes 
>>> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come 
>>> isn't at 
>>> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for 
>>> my 
>>> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. 
>>> Brands 
>>> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
>>> choices.
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
 swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short 
 legs  
 ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up 
 paint 
 from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and 
 it 
 still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and 
 shows 
 appropriate wear. 

 The Rundown: 

- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 
cassette)
- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 
miles.
- TRP RRL Brake Levers
- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto 
Noodle bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT 
I also have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur 
hanger extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not 
 quite as 
awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will 
include.


 $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local 
 sale, but I can ship to a loving home.

 Photos: 
 

[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

2023-02-14 Thread Joe Mullins
Ben is a great guy and a fun riding partner. We've ridden together many 
times with this bike and I can say $1500 sounds like a steal to me. I hope 
someone can give it a good home!

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 8:02:42 PM UTC-8 Jonathan D. wrote:

> This is one of my favorite bikes. I am 6 ft, 85 PBH and also roads a 55 
> Sam. This size fit me perfect. Hope someone buys it soon.
>
> On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:51:47 PM UTC-8 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hey Everyone! 
>> This is still for sale. I've had some serious lookers, but no takers.
>> $1,500 plus shipping?
>> I need a new computer ;)
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Ben
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:28:45 PM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Good to know, thanks!
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:59:44 AM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 It wasn't possible to do get the bars on the stem with the stem on the 
 bike. Like an impossible puzzle. However, with both the stem and bars off 
 of the bike I was able to gently rotate the stem as I was feeding it onto 
 the handlebars. There was always one rotational point where the stem would 
 move on the bars with no forcing. Cheers!

 Cheers!
 Ben


 On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:

> Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
> A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars 
> thru a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required 
> an 
> open face stem due to the abrupt curves.
> Thanks,
> Alan in NYC
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
>> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat 
>> tube) 
>> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think 
>> Grant 
>> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
>> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
>> and shapes of riders. 
>>
>> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso 
>> for my height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the 
>> need for a custom for 20 years. 
>>
>> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
>> bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
>> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't 
>> at 
>> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for 
>> my 
>> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. 
>> Brands 
>> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
>> choices.
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
>>> swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short 
>>> legs  
>>> ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up 
>>> paint 
>>> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and 
>>> it 
>>> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
>>> appropriate wear. 
>>>
>>> The Rundown: 
>>>
>>>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>>>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>>>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>>>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>>>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>>>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>>>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto 
>>>Noodle bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>>>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I 
>>>also have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>>>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur 
>>>hanger extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not 
>>> quite as 
>>>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>>>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will 
>>>include.
>>>
>>>
>>> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, 
>>> but I can ship to a loving home.
>>>
>>> Photos: 
>>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>>>
>>>  
>>> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
>>> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The 
>>> ride is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was 
>>> able 
>>> to make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>>>
>>> 

[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

2023-02-13 Thread Jonathan D.
This is one of my favorite bikes. I am 6 ft, 85 PBH and also roads a 55 
Sam. This size fit me perfect. Hope someone buys it soon.

On Monday, February 13, 2023 at 3:51:47 PM UTC-8 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hey Everyone! 
> This is still for sale. I've had some serious lookers, but no takers.
> $1,500 plus shipping?
> I need a new computer ;)
>
> Cheers!
> Ben
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:28:45 PM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Good to know, thanks!
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:59:44 AM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> It wasn't possible to do get the bars on the stem with the stem on the 
>>> bike. Like an impossible puzzle. However, with both the stem and bars off 
>>> of the bike I was able to gently rotate the stem as I was feeding it onto 
>>> the handlebars. There was always one rotational point where the stem would 
>>> move on the bars with no forcing. Cheers!
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Ben
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>>>
 Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
 A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars 
 thru a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required an 
 open face stem due to the abrupt curves.
 Thanks,
 Alan in NYC

 On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat 
> tube) 
> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think 
> Grant 
> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
> and shapes of riders. 
>
> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for 
> my height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need 
> for a custom for 20 years. 
>
> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
> bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't 
> at 
> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. 
> Brands 
> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
> choices.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
>> swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs 
>>  
>> ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up 
>> paint 
>> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and 
>> it 
>> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
>> appropriate wear. 
>>
>> The Rundown: 
>>
>>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto 
>>Noodle bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I 
>>also have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur 
>>hanger extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not 
>> quite as 
>>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will 
>>include.
>>
>>
>> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, 
>> but I can ship to a loving home.
>>
>> Photos: 
>> https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>>
>>  
>> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
>> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The 
>> ride is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was 
>> able 
>> to make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Ben Adrian
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

2023-02-13 Thread Ben Adrian
Hey Everyone! 
This is still for sale. I've had some serious lookers, but no takers.
$1,500 plus shipping?
I need a new computer ;)

Cheers!
Ben

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 1:28:45 PM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:

> Good to know, thanks!
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:59:44 AM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> It wasn't possible to do get the bars on the stem with the stem on the 
>> bike. Like an impossible puzzle. However, with both the stem and bars off 
>> of the bike I was able to gently rotate the stem as I was feeding it onto 
>> the handlebars. There was always one rotational point where the stem would 
>> move on the bars with no forcing. Cheers!
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Ben
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>>
>>> Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
>>> A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars 
>>> thru a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required an 
>>> open face stem due to the abrupt curves.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Alan in NYC
>>>
>>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>>>
 Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
 sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat tube) 
 up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think 
 Grant 
 was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
 post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
 and shapes of riders. 

 I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for 
 my height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need 
 for a custom for 20 years. 

 Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
 bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
 wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't 
 at 
 the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
 Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. 
 Brands 
 made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
 choices.

 Andy Cheatham
 Pittsburgh
 On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
 wrote:

> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
> swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs 
>  
> ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up 
> paint 
> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and it 
> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
> appropriate wear. 
>
> The Rundown: 
>
>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto 
>Noodle bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I 
>also have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur 
>hanger extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not 
> quite as 
>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will 
>include.
>
>
> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, 
> but I can ship to a loving home.
>
> Photos: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>
>  
> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The 
> ride is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was 
> able 
> to make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>
> Cheers!
> Ben Adrian
>


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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

2023-01-14 Thread alan lavine
Good to know, thanks!

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 11:59:44 AM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:

> It wasn't possible to do get the bars on the stem with the stem on the 
> bike. Like an impossible puzzle. However, with both the stem and bars off 
> of the bike I was able to gently rotate the stem as I was feeding it onto 
> the handlebars. There was always one rotational point where the stem would 
> move on the bars with no forcing. Cheers!
>
> Cheers!
> Ben
>
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:
>
>> Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
>> A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars 
>> thru a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required an 
>> open face stem due to the abrupt curves.
>> Thanks,
>> Alan in NYC
>>
>> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
>>> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat tube) 
>>> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think Grant 
>>> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
>>> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
>>> and shapes of riders. 
>>>
>>> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for 
>>> my height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need 
>>> for a custom for 20 years. 
>>>
>>> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
>>> bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
>>> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't at 
>>> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
>>> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. Brands 
>>> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
>>> choices.
>>>
>>> Andy Cheatham
>>> Pittsburgh
>>> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
 swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs  
 ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up paint 
 from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and it 
 still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
 appropriate wear. 

 The Rundown: 

- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
- TRP RRL Brake Levers
- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto 
Noodle bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I 
also have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur hanger 
extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not quite as 
awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will 
include.


 $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, 
 but I can ship to a loving home.

 Photos: 
 https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680

  
 Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
 The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The 
 ride is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was 
 able 
 to make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.

 Cheers!
 Ben Adrian

>>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

2023-01-14 Thread Ben Adrian
It wasn't possible to do get the bars on the stem with the stem on the 
bike. Like an impossible puzzle. However, with both the stem and bars off 
of the bike I was able to gently rotate the stem as I was feeding it onto 
the handlebars. There was always one rotational point where the stem would 
move on the bars with no forcing. Cheers!

Cheers!
Ben


On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:25:25 AM UTC-8 alan lavine wrote:

> Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
> A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars thru 
> a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required an open 
> face stem due to the abrupt curves.
> Thanks,
> Alan in NYC
>
> On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:
>
>> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
>> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat tube) 
>> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think Grant 
>> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
>> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
>> and shapes of riders. 
>>
>> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for my 
>> height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need for a 
>> custom for 20 years. 
>>
>> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
>> bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
>> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't at 
>> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
>> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. Brands 
>> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
>> choices.
>>
>> Andy Cheatham
>> Pittsburgh
>> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
>>> swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs  
>>> ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up paint 
>>> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and it 
>>> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
>>> appropriate wear. 
>>>
>>> The Rundown: 
>>>
>>>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>>>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>>>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>>>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>>>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>>>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>>>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto Noodle 
>>>bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>>>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I 
>>>also have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>>>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur hanger 
>>>extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not quite as 
>>>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>>>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will include.
>>>
>>>
>>> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, but 
>>> I can ship to a loving home.
>>>
>>> Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>>>
>>>  
>>> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
>>> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The ride 
>>> is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was able to 
>>> make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>> Ben Adrian
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

2023-01-14 Thread alan lavine
Very nice bike, wish I could get it.
A question about the build: How did you get the Soma Highway One bars thru 
a Nitto quill stem? I was under the impression these bars required an open 
face stem due to the abrupt curves.
Thanks,
Alan in NYC

On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 5:35:04 AM UTC-5 ascpgh wrote:

> Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on 
> sizing. It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat tube) 
> up through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think Grant 
> was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
> post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
> and shapes of riders. 
>
> I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for my 
> height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need for a 
> custom for 20 years. 
>
> Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
> bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
> wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't at 
> the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
> Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. Brands 
> made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
> choices.
>
> Andy Cheatham
> Pittsburgh
> On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell 
>> swears this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs  
>> ), Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up paint 
>> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and it 
>> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
>> appropriate wear. 
>>
>> The Rundown: 
>>
>>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto Noodle 
>>bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I also 
>>have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur hanger 
>>extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not quite as 
>>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will include.
>>
>>
>> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, but 
>> I can ship to a loving home.
>>
>> Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>>
>>  
>> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
>> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The ride 
>> is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was able to 
>> make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Ben Adrian
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rambouillet 58cm Orange

2023-01-14 Thread ascpgh
Sorry the Rambouillet didn't fit you well, despite Grant's input on sizing. 
It was increasingly under square (top tube shorter than seat tube) up 
through the sizes. Your 58 has a 57cm TT, my 62's is 59cm. I think Grant 
was trying to incorporate into frame spec what is often "fit" with seat 
post setback, stem length, handlebar reach, etc. without excluding sizes 
and shapes of riders. 

I'm the opposite of your phenotype, too long of leg/short of torso for my 
height and the Rambouillet fit me like a glove and deflected the need for a 
custom for 20 years. 

Someone's in for a blast from the past sorry it had to come from this 
bike's envelope just being outside your perfect fit margins. Sometimes 
wider accessibility comes at a cost and trying to fit all who come isn't at 
the cost of ride quality. I know it was for me when looking around for my 
Rambouillet, all that sloped TT "fastback" foolishness was the meme. Brands 
made 3-4 sizes in a model and LBS would bodge fit with stem and post 
choices.

Andy Cheatham
Pittsburgh
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 5:37:30 PM UTC-5 bunny...@gmail.com wrote:

> Early 2000's Rivendell Rambouillet 58cm frame (Grant from Rivendell swears 
> this is my size, but I'm a corgi with a long torso and short legs  ), 
> Orange and Cream finish, lots of small paint dings, some touch-up paint 
> from a previous owner, small top tube dent. Everything works great and it 
> still looks stunning, but it was once somebody's daily driver and shows 
> appropriate wear. 
>
> The Rundown: 
>
>- 58cm Rivendell Rambouillet Frame/Fork
>- Mavic Open Pro Rims on Ultegra 6500 Hubs (32h) (12-26 cassette)
>- Ultegra 6500 Deraillures with 3x8 Bar End Shifters
>- Sugino XD Triple Crank 48-38-26
>- Panaracer Pasela 35c folding bead tires with maybe 50-60 miles.
>- TRP RRL Brake Levers
>- Soma Highway One bars (42cm)*BUT I also have some Nitto Noodle 
>bars in 42cm. take your pick!*
>- Nitto Cold forged 7cm stem (Tallux? It's pretty tall)   *BUT I also 
>have the same model in 10-11cm. take your pick!*
>- I'll also toss in an 8 speed 11-32 cassette and derailleur hanger 
>extender. I ran that for a while and while shifting was not quite as 
>awesome, having a 26 x 32 gear was nice.
>- Oh, there is also a set of beat up SKS fenders that I will include.
>
>
> $1,600. + actual shipping cost. I'd, of course, prefer a local sale, but I 
> can ship to a loving home.
>
> Photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/benadrian/albums/72177720305079680
>
>  
> Why am I selling? I'd want to know as a buyer.
> The size is a little big for me. It has never felt quite right. The ride 
> is great. It glides over the road beautifully. Still ,I never was able to 
> make myself comfortable. I just want to try other things.
>
> Cheers!
> Ben Adrian
>

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