[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-09 Thread RoadieRyan
72 Cinelli? Molto Bene! got any pictures of it up on the internets?

I saw a beautiful vintage Cinelli Super Corsa at the Seattle bike show
in February it looked fast and smooth just sitting there.

Ryan

On Apr 8, 1:41 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
 My guess is that any standard 2-prong remover will work on that freewheel, 
 but I am admittedly not a Shimano expert.  You should be able to order a 
 remover at any reputable bike shop. When you get it, hold it tight to the 
 freewheel by reinstalling the skewer, and use a nice, big wrench on the 
 remover. It's important to hold the remover tight, because the remover and/or 
 engaging parts on the freewheel will have a tendency to strip if you don't.

 Those are indeed some long-lasting hubs. I have a set on my '72 Cinelli and 
 on my randonneuring bike. If the bearings ever stop spinning smoothly, Phil 
 Wood will refurbish the hubs for you.

 --Eric N
 Sent from the iPad 2

 On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:







  And for times when they get you into trouble.  So i'll take the retro-
  derailleur request from a recent thread to bring this up.  For some
  odd reason i've noticed that my inclination for bike parts leans
  towards the old.  After a dalliance with carbon fiber and suspension
  in my youth (you should see my hardtail mt bike, carbon cranks from
  1998! magura brakes! carbon fiber suspension seat post!). at the old
  age of 33 i'm only buying bike parts old then me or from an era older
  then me.

  Anyway here's one of those situations where maybe i'm getting myself
  into trouble buying the old stuff.  I picked up this wheel recently
  and it's an old phil wood design, from the pictures i'd guess early
  80's.  Well it has a Shimano 600 freewheel, in general i love shimano
  600 stuff (two cranks, brakes, levers etc), but i'm hesitant to use
  this wheel as is.  The FW looks to be in ok condition.  My concern is
  that i've done some research and i know that getting this freewheel
  off can be tricky, so i'm trying to decide now if i should attempt to
  remove and replace with something more modern or ride it and pray that
  i'll be able to remove it in a few years.  This is an either or
  because after reading the nightmares about getting this freewheel off
  (and also tracking down the freewheel tool which is only made by one
  small mfr still) i wouldn't re-mount it myself.

  And i really would like to use the hub for years to come, it's held up
  this far no reason to think it won't keep going.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599199529/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599781666/

  And for those people who are going to tell me just to give up on
  freewheels, sure i could've just gotten a shimano 105 cassette hub
  wheel fort he same price, but i just love the fact that a 30 year old
  phil wood wheel still spins smooth.

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Re: [RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-09 Thread yavo
One more data point on freewheel removal. I follow the steps mentioned in
prior posts, but use my really big adjustable wrench over which I slip a
4-foot length of pipe. Then the leverage from this jumbo tool easily
breaks the bond.
-- 
Fred Yavorsky
Jenkintown, PA
http://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes

On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:00 AM, RoadieRyan ryansub...@gmail.com wrote:

 72 Cinelli? Molto Bene! got any pictures of it up on the internets?

 I saw a beautiful vintage Cinelli Super Corsa at the Seattle bike show
 in February it looked fast and smooth just sitting there.

 Ryan

 On Apr 8, 1:41 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
  My guess is that any standard 2-prong remover will work on that
 freewheel, but I am admittedly not a Shimano expert.  You should be able to
 order a remover at any reputable bike shop. When you get it, hold it tight
 to the freewheel by reinstalling the skewer, and use a nice, big wrench on
 the remover. It's important to hold the remover tight, because the remover
 and/or engaging parts on the freewheel will have a tendency to strip if you
 don't.
 
  Those are indeed some long-lasting hubs. I have a set on my '72 Cinelli
 and on my randonneuring bike. If the bearings ever stop spinning smoothly,
 Phil Wood will refurbish the hubs for you.
 
  --Eric N
  Sent from the iPad 2
 
  On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   And for times when they get you into trouble.  So i'll take the retro-
   derailleur request from a recent thread to bring this up.  For some
   odd reason i've noticed that my inclination for bike parts leans
   towards the old.  After a dalliance with carbon fiber and suspension
   in my youth (you should see my hardtail mt bike, carbon cranks from
   1998! magura brakes! carbon fiber suspension seat post!). at the old
   age of 33 i'm only buying bike parts old then me or from an era older
   then me.
 
   Anyway here's one of those situations where maybe i'm getting myself
   into trouble buying the old stuff.  I picked up this wheel recently
   and it's an old phil wood design, from the pictures i'd guess early
   80's.  Well it has a Shimano 600 freewheel, in general i love shimano
   600 stuff (two cranks, brakes, levers etc), but i'm hesitant to use
   this wheel as is.  The FW looks to be in ok condition.  My concern is
   that i've done some research and i know that getting this freewheel
   off can be tricky, so i'm trying to decide now if i should attempt to
   remove and replace with something more modern or ride it and pray that
   i'll be able to remove it in a few years.  This is an either or
   because after reading the nightmares about getting this freewheel off
   (and also tracking down the freewheel tool which is only made by one
   small mfr still) i wouldn't re-mount it myself.
 
   And i really would like to use the hub for years to come, it's held up
   this far no reason to think it won't keep going.
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599199529/
 
  http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599781666/
 
   And for those people who are going to tell me just to give up on
   freewheels, sure i could've just gotten a shimano 105 cassette hub
   wheel fort he same price, but i just love the fact that a 30 year old
   phil wood wheel still spins smooth.
 
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[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-09 Thread Jim Cloud
I've never experienced any problems removing a freewheel (with the
proper freewheel tool) and a large adjustable wrench.  I have a Sears
Craftsman 12 inch adjustable wrench which does the trick every
time.  As long as the freewheel tool is tightened down with the
skewer, it's not going to slip.  Campagnolo made a freewheel wrench,
specifically for the two-prong Regina type freewheel, and this tool is
12 inches in length (I happen to own one).  Team mechanics used this
tool to remove innumerable freewheels, I don't think that it's
necessary to use a bench vise, and I never owned one.

Jim Cloud
Tucson, AZ
On Apr 9, 12:29 pm, yavo fyavor...@gmail.com wrote:
 One more data point on freewheel removal. I follow the steps mentioned in
 prior posts, but use my really big adjustable wrench over which I slip a
 4-foot length of pipe. Then the leverage from this jumbo tool easily
 breaks the bond.
 --
 Fred Yavorsky
 Jenkintown, PAhttp://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes

 On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:00 AM, RoadieRyan ryansub...@gmail.com wrote:
  72 Cinelli? Molto Bene! got any pictures of it up on the internets?

  I saw a beautiful vintage Cinelli Super Corsa at the Seattle bike show
  in February it looked fast and smooth just sitting there.

  Ryan

  On Apr 8, 1:41 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
   My guess is that any standard 2-prong remover will work on that
  freewheel, but I am admittedly not a Shimano expert.  You should be able to
  order a remover at any reputable bike shop. When you get it, hold it tight
  to the freewheel by reinstalling the skewer, and use a nice, big wrench on
  the remover. It's important to hold the remover tight, because the remover
  and/or engaging parts on the freewheel will have a tendency to strip if you
  don't.

   Those are indeed some long-lasting hubs. I have a set on my '72 Cinelli
  and on my randonneuring bike. If the bearings ever stop spinning smoothly,
  Phil Wood will refurbish the hubs for you.

   --Eric N
   Sent from the iPad 2

   On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

And for times when they get you into trouble.  So i'll take the retro-
derailleur request from a recent thread to bring this up.  For some
odd reason i've noticed that my inclination for bike parts leans
towards the old.  After a dalliance with carbon fiber and suspension
in my youth (you should see my hardtail mt bike, carbon cranks from
1998! magura brakes! carbon fiber suspension seat post!). at the old
age of 33 i'm only buying bike parts old then me or from an era older
then me.

Anyway here's one of those situations where maybe i'm getting myself
into trouble buying the old stuff.  I picked up this wheel recently
and it's an old phil wood design, from the pictures i'd guess early
80's.  Well it has a Shimano 600 freewheel, in general i love shimano
600 stuff (two cranks, brakes, levers etc), but i'm hesitant to use
this wheel as is.  The FW looks to be in ok condition.  My concern is
that i've done some research and i know that getting this freewheel
off can be tricky, so i'm trying to decide now if i should attempt to
remove and replace with something more modern or ride it and pray that
i'll be able to remove it in a few years.  This is an either or
because after reading the nightmares about getting this freewheel off
(and also tracking down the freewheel tool which is only made by one
small mfr still) i wouldn't re-mount it myself.

And i really would like to use the hub for years to come, it's held up
this far no reason to think it won't keep going.

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599199529/

   http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599781666/

And for those people who are going to tell me just to give up on
freewheels, sure i could've just gotten a shimano 105 cassette hub
wheel fort he same price, but i just love the fact that a 30 year old
phil wood wheel still spins smooth.

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[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-09 Thread William
Jim

It's true that most freewheels can be removed with a big wrench.  Most
of the freewheels that are too much for a wrench can be removed by a
vise.  Those that cannot be removed with a vice are few.  If it's been
on for 10+ years and was used a lot, I'd guess that Minh will need a
vice, but it's only a guess.

Bill

On Apr 9, 12:38 pm, Jim Cloud cloud...@aol.com wrote:
 I've never experienced any problems removing a freewheel (with the
 proper freewheel tool) and a large adjustable wrench.  I have a Sears
 Craftsman 12 inch adjustable wrench which does the trick every
 time.  As long as the freewheel tool is tightened down with the
 skewer, it's not going to slip.  Campagnolo made a freewheel wrench,
 specifically for the two-prong Regina type freewheel, and this tool is
 12 inches in length (I happen to own one).  Team mechanics used this
 tool to remove innumerable freewheels, I don't think that it's
 necessary to use a bench vise, and I never owned one.

 Jim Cloud
 Tucson, AZ
 On Apr 9, 12:29 pm, yavo fyavor...@gmail.com wrote:

  One more data point on freewheel removal. I follow the steps mentioned in
  prior posts, but use my really big adjustable wrench over which I slip a
  4-foot length of pipe. Then the leverage from this jumbo tool easily
  breaks the bond.
  --
  Fred Yavorsky
  Jenkintown, PAhttp://www.twistcomm.com/Bikes

  On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:00 AM, RoadieRyan ryansub...@gmail.com wrote:
   72 Cinelli? Molto Bene! got any pictures of it up on the internets?

   I saw a beautiful vintage Cinelli Super Corsa at the Seattle bike show
   in February it looked fast and smooth just sitting there.

   Ryan

   On Apr 8, 1:41 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
My guess is that any standard 2-prong remover will work on that
   freewheel, but I am admittedly not a Shimano expert.  You should be able 
   to
   order a remover at any reputable bike shop. When you get it, hold it tight
   to the freewheel by reinstalling the skewer, and use a nice, big wrench on
   the remover. It's important to hold the remover tight, because the remover
   and/or engaging parts on the freewheel will have a tendency to strip if 
   you
   don't.

Those are indeed some long-lasting hubs. I have a set on my '72 Cinelli
   and on my randonneuring bike. If the bearings ever stop spinning smoothly,
   Phil Wood will refurbish the hubs for you.

--Eric N
Sent from the iPad 2

On Apr 8, 2011, at 1:07 PM, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

 And for times when they get you into trouble.  So i'll take the retro-
 derailleur request from a recent thread to bring this up.  For some
 odd reason i've noticed that my inclination for bike parts leans
 towards the old.  After a dalliance with carbon fiber and suspension
 in my youth (you should see my hardtail mt bike, carbon cranks from
 1998! magura brakes! carbon fiber suspension seat post!). at the old
 age of 33 i'm only buying bike parts old then me or from an era older
 then me.

 Anyway here's one of those situations where maybe i'm getting myself
 into trouble buying the old stuff.  I picked up this wheel recently
 and it's an old phil wood design, from the pictures i'd guess early
 80's.  Well it has a Shimano 600 freewheel, in general i love shimano
 600 stuff (two cranks, brakes, levers etc), but i'm hesitant to use
 this wheel as is.  The FW looks to be in ok condition.  My concern is
 that i've done some research and i know that getting this freewheel
 off can be tricky, so i'm trying to decide now if i should attempt to
 remove and replace with something more modern or ride it and pray that
 i'll be able to remove it in a few years.  This is an either or
 because after reading the nightmares about getting this freewheel off
 (and also tracking down the freewheel tool which is only made by one
 small mfr still) i wouldn't re-mount it myself.

 And i really would like to use the hub for years to come, it's held up
 this far no reason to think it won't keep going.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599199529/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599781666/

 And for those people who are going to tell me just to give up on
 freewheels, sure i could've just gotten a shimano 105 cassette hub
 wheel fort he same price, but i just love the fact that a 30 year old
 phil wood wheel still spins smooth.

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Re: [RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-09 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2011-04-09 at 13:51 -0700, William wrote:
 Jim
 
 It's true that most freewheels can be removed with a big wrench.  Most
 of the freewheels that are too much for a wrench can be removed by a
 vise.  Those that cannot be removed with a vice are few.  If it's been
 on for 10+ years and was used a lot, I'd guess that Minh will need a
 vice, but it's only a guess.

Or, if it's been on a tandem.



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[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-08 Thread William
The two prong freewheel tool setup was problematic, but you should be
able to get it off when you need to do so.  This is the procedure I
always used in my years at the bike shop.

1. Freewheel tool into the freewheel
2. QR skewer back onto the wheel holding the freewheel tool snug
against the freewheel
3. Freewheel tool flats get held TIGHT with your bench vice
4. Turn the wheel to break freewheel free
5. Remove skewer
6. Finish unthreading freewheel

The bench vice is non-negotiable.  You have to have a bench vice.  If
you can get it off with a bigass crescent wrench then it was never
tight in the first place.

If you skip step 2, or if you dont use a bench vice, you take on
significant risk of damaging the slots in the freewheel body, or the
tool or both.  Once those flat slots become ramped slots, you could be
hosed.

For freewheels that are impossible to remove, you use a pin spanner or
a drift punch to unscrew the bearing retainer, remove the sprockets
part of the freewheel, let the bearings all fall on the floor.  Pull
the ratchet pawls and springs, and you'll be left with just the inner
body, which will have places on it where you can squeeze that in your
bench vice and get it off.  This destroys the freewheel but allows you
to use your wheel.

On Apr 8, 1:07 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
 And for times when they get you into trouble.  So i'll take the retro-
 derailleur request from a recent thread to bring this up.  For some
 odd reason i've noticed that my inclination for bike parts leans
 towards the old.  After a dalliance with carbon fiber and suspension
 in my youth (you should see my hardtail mt bike, carbon cranks from
 1998! magura brakes! carbon fiber suspension seat post!). at the old
 age of 33 i'm only buying bike parts old then me or from an era older
 then me.

 Anyway here's one of those situations where maybe i'm getting myself
 into trouble buying the old stuff.  I picked up this wheel recently
 and it's an old phil wood design, from the pictures i'd guess early
 80's.  Well it has a Shimano 600 freewheel, in general i love shimano
 600 stuff (two cranks, brakes, levers etc), but i'm hesitant to use
 this wheel as is.  The FW looks to be in ok condition.  My concern is
 that i've done some research and i know that getting this freewheel
 off can be tricky, so i'm trying to decide now if i should attempt to
 remove and replace with something more modern or ride it and pray that
 i'll be able to remove it in a few years.  This is an either or
 because after reading the nightmares about getting this freewheel off
 (and also tracking down the freewheel tool which is only made by one
 small mfr still) i wouldn't re-mount it myself.

 And i really would like to use the hub for years to come, it's held up
 this far no reason to think it won't keep going.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599199529/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599781666/

 And for those people who are going to tell me just to give up on
 freewheels, sure i could've just gotten a shimano 105 cassette hub
 wheel fort he same price, but i just love the fact that a 30 year old
 phil wood wheel still spins smooth.

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[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-08 Thread Minh
There is a specific Shimano 600 freewheel tool for this (park no
longer make it, and neither do shimano), Bicycle Research still make a
tool, and i'm linking it here just so it's in the archives.
http://www.bicycletool.com/shimanoduraace600reginafreewheelremover.aspx

the current park suntour 2-prong will not fit.

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[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-08 Thread bfd


On Apr 8, 2:08 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
 There is a specific Shimano 600 freewheel tool for this (park no
 longer make it, and neither do shimano), Bicycle Research still make a
 tool, and i'm linking it here just so it's in the 
 archives.http://www.bicycletool.com/shimanoduraace600reginafreewheelremover.aspx

 the current park suntour 2-prong will not fit.

At $8, its not too pricey. Nevertheless, for about that much, or a few
dollars more, why not take it into your LBS and have them remove it,
especially if you're planning never using that fw again. Unless you
want yet another bike specific tool in your toolbox, you may want to
consider just taking it in and let the pros do it! Good Luck!

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[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-08 Thread Minh
That's an option, but that assumes that they have the tool :) or they
plan on destroying the freewheel, which seems like a lot of work for
them.  I'm also searching for a bikeshop that still works on old
bikes...

On Apr 8, 5:15 pm, bfd bfd...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Apr 8, 2:08 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

  There is a specific Shimano 600 freewheel tool for this (park no
  longer make it, and neither do shimano), Bicycle Research still make a
  tool, and i'm linking it here just so it's in the 
  archives.http://www.bicycletool.com/shimanoduraace600reginafreewheelremover.aspx

  the current park suntour 2-prong will not fit.

 At $8, its not too pricey. Nevertheless, for about that much, or a few
 dollars more, why not take it into your LBS and have them remove it,
 especially if you're planning never using that fw again. Unless you
 want yet another bike specific tool in your toolbox, you may want to
 consider just taking it in and let the pros do it! Good Luck!

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[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-08 Thread velomann
I've got a box - literally - of freewheels, and the 4 or 5 Shimano
600's I have are among my favorites. All mine come off with the
regular Shimano freewheel tool, still easily available from Park and
in most decent bike shops. Some of the older Shimano freewheels take
the old style boss tool which is harder to find and harder to use -
the inner diameter is small enough you actually have to remove the
locknut to get the tool on. But I've never seen a 600 that uses this.

And putting the freewheel tool down in the bench vise and turning the
wheel COUNTER CLOCKWISE has always worked for me. With tough ones I
sometimes think I'm gonna bust a spoke, but it's never happened yet,
and I've never been defeated by a truly stuck freewheel.

I HAVE had some freewheels that gave me a devil of a time when I tried
to dis-assemble them for cleaning. The Shimano ones with the little
lockring are a bi*** because you can't start them with a chainwhip,
but so far as I know, that doesn't include the 600's.

2 pluses on the 600's - they have a nice dustcap that does a pretty
good job sealing the mechanism - though it can crack. And once you
have it all broken down with cogs removed, the frreewheel has 2 oil
ports (resembles Dura-Ace freewheels this way. May be the same
freewheel as far as I can tell). I snag any cheap 600 freewheels I run
across and have never regretted running one.

Whoops - just looked at your picture. Um, nevermind. Haven't seen that
one.

On Apr 8, 1:07 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
 And for times when they get you into trouble.  So i'll take the retro-
 derailleur request from a recent thread to bring this up.  For some
 odd reason i've noticed that my inclination for bike parts leans
 towards the old.  After a dalliance with carbon fiber and suspension
 in my youth (you should see my hardtail mt bike, carbon cranks from
 1998! magura brakes! carbon fiber suspension seat post!). at the old
 age of 33 i'm only buying bike parts old then me or from an era older
 then me.

 Anyway here's one of those situations where maybe i'm getting myself
 into trouble buying the old stuff.  I picked up this wheel recently
 and it's an old phil wood design, from the pictures i'd guess early
 80's.  Well it has a Shimano 600 freewheel, in general i love shimano
 600 stuff (two cranks, brakes, levers etc), but i'm hesitant to use
 this wheel as is.  The FW looks to be in ok condition.  My concern is
 that i've done some research and i know that getting this freewheel
 off can be tricky, so i'm trying to decide now if i should attempt to
 remove and replace with something more modern or ride it and pray that
 i'll be able to remove it in a few years.  This is an either or
 because after reading the nightmares about getting this freewheel off
 (and also tracking down the freewheel tool which is only made by one
 small mfr still) i wouldn't re-mount it myself.

 And i really would like to use the hub for years to come, it's held up
 this far no reason to think it won't keep going.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599199529/

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/minhi/5599781666/

 And for those people who are going to tell me just to give up on
 freewheels, sure i could've just gotten a shimano 105 cassette hub
 wheel fort he same price, but i just love the fact that a 30 year old
 phil wood wheel still spins smooth.

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[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-08 Thread doug peterson
Minh:

Where are you located?  There's probably a list member that can
suggest a shop in your area.

Nice Hillborne, I love that orange.  Whoever installed the drillium on
the chainrings can remove your freewheel.  One way or the other

dougP

On Apr 8, 2:47 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:
 That's an option, but that assumes that they have the tool :) or they
 plan on destroying the freewheel, which seems like a lot of work for
 them.  I'm also searching for a bikeshop that still works on old
 bikes...

 On Apr 8, 5:15 pm, bfd bfd...@gmail.com wrote:



  On Apr 8, 2:08 pm, Minh mgiangs...@gmail.com wrote:

   There is a specific Shimano 600 freewheel tool for this (park no
   longer make it, and neither do shimano), Bicycle Research still make a
   tool, and i'm linking it here just so it's in the 
   archives.http://www.bicycletool.com/shimanoduraace600reginafreewheelremover.aspx

   the current park suntour 2-prong will not fit.

  At $8, its not too pricey. Nevertheless, for about that much, or a few
  dollars more, why not take it into your LBS and have them remove it,
  especially if you're planning never using that fw again. Unless you
  want yet another bike specific tool in your toolbox, you may want to
  consider just taking it in and let the pros do it! Good Luck!- Hide quoted 
  text -

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[RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-08 Thread bfd


On Apr 8, 3:49 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
 Minh:

 Where are you located?  There's probably a list member that can
 suggest a shop in your area.

Agree, or check to see if any of these shops are near you as any one
of them should be able to help you:

http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bike_Shops/Bike_shops.htm

Good Luck!

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Re: [RBW] Re: For the Love of Old Parts...

2011-04-08 Thread James Warren

Sadly, Shaw's in Santa Clara just closed recently.


On Apr 8, 2011, at 4:36 PM, bfd wrote:

 
 
 On Apr 8, 3:49 pm, doug peterson dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
 Minh:
 
 Where are you located?  There's probably a list member that can
 suggest a shop in your area.
 
 Agree, or check to see if any of these shops are near you as any one
 of them should be able to help you:
 
 http://www.classicrendezvous.com/Bike_Shops/Bike_shops.htm
 
 Good Luck!
 
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